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Joe Barton, Honesty, and Shakedowns

Let’s be honest. The White House meeting with British Petroleum was a shakedown.

The White House threatened criminal prosecution of BP, the President gave a miserably received speech, then he hauled BP into the White House and put the Attorney General in the room with the CEO to stare at him, then the President demanded $20 billion.

It was a shakedown.

Had British Petroleum affiliated with Al Qaeda and tried to blow up an airplane, it would have gotten due process rights, a court appointed lawyer, and miranda warning while avoiding Henry Waxman.

But let’s continue our honesty: Who the heck cares besides Joe Barton? What planet has the man been living on? Has he not seen what BP has done and not done? He thinks we owe BP an apology? I don’t think so. [Note: Yeah, I do care that this is probably unconstitutional, but BP is a willing collaborator with Obama. They're made for each other. Barton should be apologizing to the American public, not BP — this administration continues to operate as a thugocracy.]

And keeping with the honesty, let’s also admit the Congressional hearing was a show trial. The only thing separating it from a Soviet show trial is Tony Hayward, the CEO of British Petroleum walked out without any lead in him. The result, however, will be the same as a Soviet show trial: not a single thing will happen. Nothing.

Why? Because while Joe Barton is mourning the shakedown on BP, Barack Obama is still the largest recipient of BP money in Washington. Rahm Emanuel gets a bedroom provided by BP’s pollster Stan Greenburg, who also happens to poll for the Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee and is married to a member of Congress.

Were this a Republican administration the New York Times would be screaming about incest.

And now, marvel at the results. British Petroleum commits to a $20 billion escrow account to pay for damages. The Democrats get a show trial. The government has a vested interest in ensuring BP does not go belly up lest the $20 billion go the way of the dodo bird, gas prices will probably start trickling up, and BP will pay out damages to people put on the unemployment line by Barack Obama’s egregious action to shut down all deep water drilling. About the only safe bet now is British Petroleum stock — they just became too big to fail.

In Washington, BP will keep doling out contributions to Democrats through other entities and everyone will sleep well at night knowing not a single thing will really change.

Have I told you about my windmills? Ignore the oil still leaking and just gaze at my shiny windmills.

COMMENTS

  • hogan

    I wrote a piece a few months back whacking Barton for his silly nonsense on bowl games. So, I am not really “in the tank” for him.

    I get your point – but I think it wrongly accepts the unnecessary hysteria today over the “apology’ comment.

    And you know what? I care. I really do.

    I don’t care about BP – no. They are going to get crushed by this if what we think we know now is correct. But, that should get sorted out in court. I do care about how our country does things. And we are fast sliding beyond Levin’s “soft tyranny” and into some other world.

    I am sick of this spineless nonsense. What the President did with the Attorney General was wrong. We are throwing Due Process completely out the window by allowing these political hacks who have never done anything halfway useful in their entire lives to conduct both shakedowns and what you rightly call show trials and demand answers before allowing our justice system to work.

    I might have chosen different words for political reasons – but I saw it live this morning and I was all for what he said in the face of this lunacy. Good for him.

  • NeoKong

    Anybody who has some say as to who receives it and how it is paid out could have a lot of friends.
    It’s not insurance money where if you have a legitimate claim you are paid.
    It sounds more like the kind of money you might receive if you know the right people and ask real nice.
    It could be the sort of money that can make certain groups of needy people do certain things at convenient times.
    It will be interesting to see just who will be put in charge of all that money and exactly who will receive it.

  • smitch61

    It is unconstitutional, everything they do is unconstitutional. The GOP are wimps and will not fight the good fight. He was attempting to explain to the American people that what went on is wrong.

  • smitch61

    Will have to straighten this all out… I get that. It is just a damn shame we do not have a real President that would have waited to blame anybody until we found out what caused it, and fixed it. I am afraid it will never be fixed..

  • DaveWT4

    Not for BP, but for our Nation. I will not stand by and say ‘who cares, they deserve it’ while we slip further into Thugocracy.

    Take BP to court and sue their pants off. But this is not the way it is done!

  • khughes

    Financial Crisis, Wall Street, Goldman-Sachs gets raked over the coals. Financial Reform Bill

    Environmental disaster, Energy/Oil Industry, BP gets raked over the coals.
    Stay tuned for the Energy (Cap and Trade) Reform Bill

    What will the next crisis/disaster be?

  • ciscoguy

    Democrats are in full presidential PR damage control mode, and Joe just handed them a freebie. He was righteous to assail this imperial president, but should have known to stop short of apologizing to BP, if for no other reason that it gives the left wing hyenas a narrative to distract from the real issue: the gusher of oil Obama has no clue how to stop or clean up.

    Fortunately for Joe, Obama’s utter incompetence with this matter will push him out of the news cycle within a night or two.

  • texasgalt

    and Obama getting away with this really matters. Joe Barton knows it.

  • texasgalt

    and Obama getting away with this really matters. Joe Barton knows it.

  • Kayla

    And what’s with the apology? BP should be apologizing to the residents of the Gulf not the other way around.

  • Kayla

    What was this guy thinking?

  • Richard Mullins

    What they did today is over the top and the only thing to fix it is for Boehner to lose his Minority Leader position and Cantor to lose his Minority Whip position. Joe Barton (R-Ennis) was quite right and forcing him to apologize for the apology is unacceptable.

  • Richard Mullins

    Why do you seem to post little one liners that in this diary. I really want an answer from you on this.

  • merryj1

    …in spite of my admittedly nasty, if temporary, glee of the “serves ‘em right for donating so much money to BO & the Dems” variety. If I have this right:

    (1) BP applied for license to drill in relatively shallow water…

    (2) Permission Denied – “But you can drill in the deep, deep blue…”

    (3) BP has a very poor record of infractions — in the hundreds, compared to Shell & other companies with half a dozen or less… SO, why did BP get the nod instead of more reliable companies? Looking for the guilty? I say, look to the bureaucrats who winked and smiled at BP…

    (4) Federal regulators under Salazar punted on all inspection responsibilities, just rubber-stamping whatever BP said…

    (5) Federal contingency plans were AWOL…

    (6) Has anyone even ASKED what caused the explosion? Do we have a clue whether it might have been sabotage? How the hell can anyone “point fingers at culpable parties” if they don’t actually know happened?

    (7) OK, we’ve got a serious problem. We SHOULD be trying to fix it. How many Presidents does it take to waive the Jones Act, so the willing-and-able helping hands from all parts of the globe can bring in their ships and gear and help get the clean-up started?

    (8) Assuming this was an accident and not sabotage, “accident” means no one is to “blame” for what happened. If someone was careless, or negligent, OK, that party or parties should be held accountable — within the LEGAL parameters in place at the time, which means to the tune of $75 million, not $20 billion. BUT — and it’s a big, big BUT — WHERE is the accountability of the bureacrats who get paychecks for conducting inspections to make certain there is no carelessness or negligence in the operations?

    You get my drift. Never mind “blame” for the accident – it already happened. Blame for the non-solution, however, is a different matter. Put that where it belongs.

  • ciscoguy

    but don’t we have a right to know what went on in this back room deal? Where is the transparency this chicago thug promised us?

  • joecollins

    Joe Barton nailed it the first time. And there will be more when this first $20 billion runs out.

    In the mean time, we will watch who receives how much from this fund . . and the speed in which the claims are paid. Our Dear Leader has created much potential for finger pointing, and this time the finger will be pointed at the fed.

  • Richard Mullins

    It was the thuggery over the whole thing that not as well as the back room meeting that AG Holder was in. I guess they want to have prison time when their term runs out.

  • 6eorge Jetson

    or even kicked back into BP Obama donor’s hands?

    Honestly, I can’ t wrap my head around the magnitude of the damage to the gulf and those that derive their incomes from it, and neither do I have any sense whether $20 billion is the right figure. But it’s entirely predictable that a good chunk of that $20 billion won’t go to the deserving, and I hope for the sake of the deserving that the siphoning doesn’t cause the money to run out before the deserving are properly compensated.

  • Flagstaff

    Rule of law has been replaced by rule of mob.

    Rule of mob is being directed by the Congressionally authorized Dictator.

  • redtillimdead

    That they released. I agree with them. BP needs to pay for damages in full. I do not, however, agree with the White House that BP should be paying workers laid off because of OBAMA’S drilling moratorium. The moratorium that Obama REFUSES to end after every politician in LA told him it would kill our economy, is NOT BP’s fault and they should not be responsible for it.

  • Flagstaff

    He had it right, then reversed course and now looks like the fool he probably is.

  • Flagstaff

    Guess it turns out that Barton isn’t that clever.

  • Flagstaff

    locked in a closet somewhere.

  • http://www.theprecinctproject.wordpress.com ColdWarrior

    Because it was a shakedown.

    If everything was above board it should have been open to the press. No? The congressional hearings have been open to the press and on C-SPAN. Why wasn’t Opuppet’s magnificent leadership performance put on full display, just like his wonderful speech?

    “Umm. Ahhh. Umm. I’m gonna kick your ass! Umm. Ahhh.”

    I think I’ve got the answer. No teleprompters.

    For Liberty,
    ColdWarrior, PC (that?s ?precinct committeeman,? not ?political child!?)
    Conservatives, UNITE! CHANGE the Republican Party and save the world by UNITING INSIDE the Party as precinct committeemen. NOW! (138 days until Nov. 2 — what are YOU DOING to help get out the vote in your precinct?)

  • crassus

    Blackmailing him into apologizing or losing his seat is unfair in my view. This is what people who are more into power than anything else do. Barton is right about the “shakedown”, but it seems a familiar mistake. Democrats attack the big corporations unfairly, while most of the public agrees w/ the Dems, and then we rightfully defend the corporations. However, what does this do? These corporations screw us over. We should have attacked Goldman-Sachs. Big. They deserve it, they gave to the people ruining our country anyway. As far as I am concerned we have to stop defending unpopular people/ companies that give tons to the Democrats. We can’t let them eat their cake and have it to. It’s electoral suicide for us.

  • annas

    It was a shakedown! The Republicans hurrying out to make him apologize disgusted me. I am so sick of them not standing for a thing. No wonder they can’t raise any money for the RNC. They are a bunch of pushovers for the Democrats!

  • antisocial

    Politically that was a stupid statement. But I don’t see anything wrong. What he said is the Truth. We should be outraged when POTUS, with the Attorney General at his side extorts money from a business. Nobody is saying BP should not pay. Whatever happened to existing law and due process. Regardless of what eventually happens, this is not presidential. Mafia behaves this way. But POTUS?

  • antisocial

    1>Let a crisis worsen.
    2>Divert everybody’s attention to the pour.
    3>Let people suffer.
    4>Penalize (money grab)
    5>Distribute the bounty among your interest group.

    Modern Robinhood.

  • E Pluribus Unum

    Like several people upthread, we have no sympathy, properly speaking, for BP. But what the Boy President ™ and his minions have done is yet more thievery and thuggery, THOROUGHLY in breach of the law.

    Good boy, Joe. Even if you did back down after that. And I’m telling you all.

    I am dead to Boehner and Cantor. Forever I will seek their downfall, and nothing they say will hit my ears.

    Moral cowards utterly unworthy of leadership, and even at this late date, unappreciative at the narrow thread by which our republic hangs.

  • antisocial

    More pain, more gain.

  • merryj1

    When the mob shakes someone down, they’re running a risk of being pinched, tried, convicted, and ending up in a penitentiary.

    Not so with the Outfit at the 1600 Club.

  • The Old Dog

    although he then went on to say health care for those living in the Gulf – but I would not put it past 0bama’s shell game to find some of the money has gone into the general health care fund so 0bama can crow about how it’s not adding to the deficit. Just like he had GM claim they paid back their loan, then we find out they just played an accounting subterfuge to move it around. This is not transparency, it’s total dishonesty. I have 0 trust in anything the 0bama administration says or does. I trusted Nixon more than I do this bunch of Chicago thugs.

  • Adjoran

    This was rule by decree, as with EPA rulings recently and the FCC ruling expected today (Friday). With every step in that direction, we lose a bit more freedom. There is a point where there is no going back, but who can say exactly where that point is? Better to avoid the path toward darkness and dictatorship altogether, and allow the law to rule.

    BP is hardly a worthy victim, but if they can be browbeat and muscled into a $20 billion extortion fund to be headed by an Obama crony, who among us can say their property is safe?

    If resolution through the courts is “too slow” then by all means negotiate a quick settlement. That’s how the system works – not by paying protection to thugs and goons.

  • The Old Dog

    that Bush acted like he was above the law? And how horrible blah blah blah. And windmills too.

    Now we have 0bama who not only thinks he is above the law but above the Constitution too. Huh. That’s way above his pay grade.

  • dajeeps

    I don’t think Barton had the best choice of words but the right idea. One can decry what the President did without getting gushy (no pun intended) over BP.

    I also wanted to point out a story on bloomberg.com com about a whistleblower lawsuit against BP being dropped. I don’t know if they are realted, but it smells kind of bad.

  • http://56rebels.wordpress.com/ 56rebels

    At this point after watching the way Obama and his crew operate I think that if Ahmadinejad somehow gets on the ballot in 2012 I will vote for him. At the very least he would improve America’s image.

    http://56rebels.wordpress.com/

    How the hell did Hillary lose to this guy? Seriously!

  • Hugh

    that you think that it is OK to ignore the constitution in certain circumstances. That is like ignoring parts of the Bible. Who decides what to ignore and where does it all end?

  • Kayla

    This cause has caused great damage to the Repubs. Nobody was happier by his remarks than Obama. He gave the Dems a great PR victory when Obama was drowning.

  • antisocial

    Democrats get elected to Office instead of landing in Jail.

  • http://thesandsinstitute.org Vassar Bushmills

    but zero in on “slush fund.”

    This money will not go to the Gulf. (Later on other money will, courtesy US taxpayers in all likelihood). Late yesterday it was reported the Coast Guard shut down the oil barges sucking up the oil off LA coast. Coincidence?

    Barton’s apology was issued through Boehner’s office. A lot of Republicans want his head and off the committee. If he was off script I’d as hell like to know what the script was that it was so important as to ignore a clear crime in progress .

    I’m not sure what the GOP plan is if it invokes ignoring the obvious. The obvious is that the Admin is not interested in stopping the leak, cleaning up the mess, protecting wildlife, habitat or jobs. It has now shown itself nakedly as interested in impeding those efforts. And the obvious is that none of that $20B is going to the Gulf, except perhaps to exhume dead people in NO so they can vote.

    Maybe Jindal can go it alone and take over clean up now that it’s all inside state territorial waters.

  • Achance

    I’m sure yesterday’s shutdown of the LA operated barges was the usual union “safety campaign” crap. Some union, probably the Masters, Mates, and Pilots, dropped a dime to their federal friends that the skimmer barges don’t comply with CG regs, so the CG terminates their voyages and inspects them all. I’ve been through lots of CG inspections. They can be as little as the CG comes alongside and asks you how many on board and asks you to show them that many of the right kind of PFD or they can come aboard and turn your boat inside out – and they don’t need no stinking warrants and you don’t get none of that due process stuff.

    Anyway, I’m sure that if Jindal just signs a contract with MM&P to put a union crew or at least a union pilot on all vessels operating under contract to the State, all those vessels will be safe again. And, by the way, they do this in every industry regulated by the federal government; they torture shipping companies, airlines, trucking companies, construction contractors doing publicly funded work, etc.

    Now watch what happens with the $20 Billion. If BP is paying, they can employ anybody under any conditions they’ll work under; the only limits being the Jones Act and some other safety regulations. Now that BP is turning the money over to the Fed, it is public funds. Now, we’ll start the union contractors and project labor agreements game, Davis-Bacon prevailing wages, and OSHA and the USCG standing by to torture anybody who won’t play, including the state governments. In other words, that “slush fund” just federalized even the state and local cleanup efforts if those governments want any of that money.

  • txgho1911

    BP and BP people are responsible. That is becoming more clear every day. If the BP company man ran off the logging crew over an uncontrolled well then every party that approved the operation of displacing to sea water on a live well should spend jail time. That would include the onshore management in the loop.

    The shakedown and witch hunt is misplaced. MMS owns this as much as BP.

  • qurys

    and engaging in all sorts of public hysteria and fingerpointing at the culprits we have yet failed to identify, I don’t think that dressing down the company who has apologized and promised to be responsible and begun already to make payments to victims of the oil spill speaks particularly well for this Administration of Accountability. Perhaps they don’t know accountability when they see it? Perhaps they do not recognize an apology when they see it coming from the private sector they so loathe? This is a country that has forgiven much of her politicians and elected officials – MUCH! Can we not be at least gracious to BP? Not even forgiving…but just gracious? I realize that some would like to see BP’s assets seized, and there is probably another segment who would like to see the officers hung, drawn and quartered. But like every other crisis, financial or otherwise, there is plenty of blame to go around. While we are at it….what is with the absolute fanatacism over Obamaoil? I have lived thru man caused disasters that have destroyed as much if not more of the environment, wildlife, habitat, and people, and they are off the front pages after a couple of days. What is with the oil?

  • qurys

    and engaging in all sorts of public hysteria and fingerpointing at the culprits we have yet failed to identify, I don’t think that dressing down the company who has apologized and promised to be responsible and begun already to make payments to victims of the oil spill speaks particularly well for this Administration of Accountability. Perhaps they don’t know accountability when they see it? Perhaps they do not recognize an apology when they see it coming from the private sector they so loathe? This is a country that has forgiven much of her politicians and elected officials – MUCH! Can we not be at least gracious to BP? Not even forgiving…but just gracious? I realize that some would like to see BP’s assets seized, and there is probably another segment who would like to see the officers hung, drawn and quartered. But like every other crisis, financial or otherwise, there is plenty of blame to go around. While we are at it….what is with the absolute fanatacism over Obamaoil? I have lived thru man caused disasters that have destroyed as much if not more of the environment, wildlife, habitat, and people, and they are off the front pages after a couple of days. What is with the oil?

  • http://www.theminorityreportblog.com/blog/loren_heal Socrates

    nt

  • txgho1911

    Not for holding to account. MMS shares this.

  • boats48

    I’m not a fan of BP either & they certainlydeserve everything coming to them, but since when is the President of the United States authorized to demand anyone ante up to his expectations? What happened to that “rule of law” we heard so much about when Mr. Obama insited we close Gitmo? This guy is a thug. That’s probably why you see him making nice with our enemies and turning his back on our allies. Barton need not apologize any further. He was “spot on” with his description.

  • txgho1911

    TX would be so embarrassed is Jindal and LA started secession proceeding over this before TX exorcised a states rights fight.

  • http://thesandsinstitute.org Vassar Bushmills

    I was speaking about picking a fight. We’re seeing the law broken every day under the guise of public necessity. If our side does the same thing maybe those two competing views of public necessity will finally be aired out. I’m for howitzers, myself.

  • Scope

    for putting your finger on Cantor. He is my rep, and I have been saying for months, he is not the Conservative he and others claim he is. During the Obamacare debate, he was interviewed on local radio, and said, that he was angry because the R’s just wanted to make Obamacare better, but the D’s wouldn’t let them. He is all for big government, but just wants to do it his way. He also touted how wonderful the Cash for Clunkers program was.

  • Scope

    also works for a bank that got TARP funds.

  • Scope

    n/t

  • Hugh
  • taxmaiden

    I can?t believe the other Republicans haven?t brought up another point and LOUDLY. Obama and his cronies are as responsible for this mess as BP. I agree with “antisocial” above. The administration was more than happy to let this disaster get as bad as it could possibly get. Because no sane man would wait six weeks before doing something to help fix the leak. They actually refused help from all outside sources. My other point – Don?t we all realize that this sets a precedent??? Basically by demanding BP not pay any dividends for the rest of the year and shaking them down for $20B, the government has basically taken over this company. What?s next? The next time a plane crashes, will they take over the airline? Train crashes, take over the railroad? The government already runs 70% of the economy, this has GOT TO STOP!!!

  • Scope

    who voted for the TARP bill. There’s a big difference.

  • Achance

    The last time the Lower South was united in common cause against the US Government a long period of “unpleasantness” ensued. ‘Course, Barry ain’t Abe, though he may think he is.

    I guess if I were advising one of the governors, I would counsel some act of defiance. The problem then moves down to the 19 year old Coast Guardsman holding the machine gun on the barge or some such; that could get nasty. On the one hand, you could turn some Alinsky on these thugs and try to provoke them to do something stupid, even something terrible, but people could die, and you’re disadvantaged by the fact that Comrade Obama controls the media so the Country will never hear your side of it. Might be interesting to start denying access to state lands to feds, the Indians do that from time to time and get away with it but they’re lots cooler than a bunch of Crackers that vote Republican. So, maybe you arrest a bunch of feds for interfering with the state’s cleanup efforts, the lawyers can figure out the appropriate charge. I guess my idea would be to push Comrade Obama into doing something to one or more of those states, maybe even see if you can get him to try to federalize a state and supplant state authority. None of Comrade Obama’s minions have any experience with actual decisionmaking and true crisis management, so the odds are pretty good that they’ll do something really stupid. Maybe that would wake up some other governors. I still can’t believe the silence of Republican governors and AGs around the Country in the face of all the federal abuse and usurpation; we went to war with Great Britain over less.

  • Hugh
  • JadedByPolitics

    ….

  • Hugh
  • melissatx

    1. Yes it was a shakedown
    2. No, Boehner doesn’t need to lose his job, he needs a spinal/kiwi transplant.
    3. Yes BP will be held accountable and they ALREADY said they were setting up the $20 B fund
    3. Yes the WH is full blown defense mode, but never underestimate the GPO to blow a lead with this kind of crap.
    4. Yes, the thugministration should also be held accountable and that is exactly what Barton was getting at. They couldn’t do end runs, short cut and put mens’ lives and livelihoods at risk and now at loss if MinMange regulators that oversought them knew how to do their jobs. They could not, obviously. Who do they report to? The President.
    5. Should there be internal investigations in to who is responsible in this admins as well?? YOU BETCHA. Someone didn’t do their jobs here and someone allowed for all the lapses.
    6. Eric Holder is the one who should be out of a job today. To start the process of solving the problem and cleaning up by announcing we’re gonna sue the hell out of them? Please. This whole administration has not one shred of executive experience among them. Blaming others is not leadership guys……do I need to send my 5 year old in to manage this? I swear she could do better.

  • melissatx

    1. Yes it was a shakedown
    2. No, Boehner doesn’t need to lose his job, he needs a spinal/kiwi transplant.
    3. Yes BP will be held accountable and they ALREADY said they were setting up the $20 B fund
    3. Yes the WH is full blown defense mode, but never underestimate the GPO to blow a lead with this kind of crap.
    4. Yes, the thugministration should also be held accountable and that is exactly what Barton was getting at. They couldn’t do end runs, short cut and put mens’ lives and livelihoods at risk and now at loss if MinMange regulators that oversought them knew how to do their jobs. They could not, obviously. Who do they report to? The President.
    5. Should there be internal investigations in to who is responsible in this admins as well?? YOU BETCHA. Someone didn’t do their jobs here and someone allowed for all the lapses.
    6. Eric Holder is the one who should be out of a job today. To start the process of solving the problem and cleaning up by announcing we’re gonna sue the hell out of them? Please. This whole administration has not one shred of executive experience among them. Blaming others is not leadership guys……do I need to send my 5 year old in to manage this? I swear she could do better.

  • texasgalt

    A few years back he came down to Texas to play in a golf tournament fund raiser for a west Texas Republican. From my first hand observation Boehner is just a strutting self centered peacock.

    His leadership is worse than bad and he proved it again yesterday. If the Republicans take over the House and Bonehead is Speaker, the grassroots efforts will have been for the elevation of a loser.

    Joe Barton had it right.

  • texasgalt

    A few years back he came down to Texas to play in a golf tournament fund raiser for a west Texas Republican. From my first hand observation Boehner is just a strutting self centered peacock.

    His leadership is worse than bad and he proved it again yesterday. If the Republicans take over the House and Bonehead is Speaker, the grassroots efforts will have been for the elevation of a loser.

    Joe Barton had it right.

  • melissatx

    GPO = great political onus (since they seem to blow any lead they have)
    GOP = great onus probandi

    Main Entry: onus pro?ban?di
    Pronunciation: \??-nu?s-pr?-?ban-?d?, -d?\
    Function: foreign term
    Etymology: Latin
    : burden of proof

  • melissatx

    GPO = great political onus (since they seem to blow any lead they have)
    GOP = great onus probandi

    Main Entry: onus pro?ban?di
    Pronunciation: \??-nu?s-pr?-?ban-?d?, -d?\
    Function: foreign term
    Etymology: Latin
    : burden of proof

  • redneck_hippie
  • johnt

    You hit the key once, twice doesn’t make it better. Or do you always repeat yourself, repeat yourself, repeat yourself, repeat ——–

  • redneck_hippie

    It was reported the CG stopped the suckage due to lack of fire extinguishers and life vests.

  • texasgalt

    leadership will minimize Republican gains by playing this hide and hope game.
    Boehner is a piece of work.

  • texasgalt

    leadership will minimize Republican gains by playing this hide and hope game.
    Boehner is a piece of work.

  • deevee

    and lawless.

    A shameful act from President Obama.

  • texasgalt

    There is absolutley no legal basis for this Chicago style shakedown.

  • Achance

    who isn’t licensed, is dumb enough to be operating a vessel in an area crawling with CG and other law enforcement without the requisite fire extinguishers and PFDs. That stuff falls in the any damned fool knows category. At least here, if the CG is only checking for PFDs, they just come alongside and ask you how many on board and ask you to show them a proper PFD, Type III if you’re recreational, Type I if you’re for hire, don’t know the rules for a workboat or fishing boat. To get to fire extinguishers, they’d have to board you and then they check for both type and condition. I have an automatic Halon extinguisher in my engine compartment but it is so hard to see that I meet my extinguisher requirement with handhelds in the living spaces just so I don’t have to deal with showing the CG the Halon.

    Anyway, I’m willing to bet lunch that the CG got a “tip” from somebody that those barges weren’t properly equipped so they went out and boarded them. They wouldn’t need to know anything about who built them unless they were required to be “inspected vessels,” and I don’t think they would be unless the CG is trying to call them tankers. Even if your vessel is hired, you don’t have to be inspected or licensed unless you’re carrying passengers or goods for hire. So, this probably turns on legal subtleties about whether the barges are tankers under the law, and whether the oil they’re picking up is cargo for hire. Anyway, this is the sort of stuff that can be worked out with phone calls unless the CG has some reason to want to terminate the voyage; obviously they did, and I think a union contract would probably make these vessels perfectly safe and legal.

  • http://theminorityreportblog.com Repair_Man_Jack

    “I think a union contract would probably make these vessels perfectly safe and legal.”

  • johnt

    Oscar Axelrod, Tyrone Emanuel, Ichabod Napolitano, Zacharia Gibbs, Ferdinand Holder, oh, and Peolosi’s husband, the guy who walks around talking to himself all the time.
    $20 bill will not slip through the hands of our progressives, who fervently believe that Progress is a highly personal thing.

  • Richard Mullins

    The first time was after Joe Wilson’s “You Lie” bit. I think I’m not just angry with Boehner and Cantor but that Stupid Rep. Miller in Florida that needs to get kicked out of the Republican caucus for asking that Joe Barton lose his position on the House Energy and Commerce committee for the apology. Florida politicians are nothing more than NIMBY on drilling. They do it all the time and drum up the voters to keep from drilling in Florida. Everywhere else but not here. I live in a Congressional District that had a spill this year because of a barge accident(You know the one on the Sabine-Neches Waterway back in February). Honestly, this whole is going away fast and the Dems do this all the time when a Congressman or Senator is Honest.

  • Scope

    was nothing more than what you would see/expect in a Banana Republic. This was not a fact finding hearing, this was auditioning for the role as biggest bully, trying to prove who has the biggest boots to stand on throats. I am completely and totally embarrassed that this is the American Government that has stolen power, and that includes some Republicans. Why would anyone hold any hearings before all investigations are complete? Hayward wasn’t “stonewalling”, which he was constantly criticized of doing, but was correct in answering as he did, until the investigations are done. He was the smartest guy in the room yesterday, along with Barton.

    I wonder if any American CEO’s have been called before Parliament or any other country’s government creatures, and beaten and bloodied before TV cameras for the world to see, even before the facts are available. I suspect that will now happen, because we just set the precedent, and we will pay for that. We are now the United States of the Banana Republic.

    This should be a very big message to every Corporation that thinks that getting in bed with the government, to gain special favors, is ever going to be treated fairly. As someone else here said, Politicians don’t stay bought. Do you hear that GE and WalMart and many others?

    Keep your copies of the Constitution because this administration just burned the original.

  • Richard Mullins

    It’s Boehner and Cantor that need to pay the price for this as well as one Rep Miller needs to be kicked out of the Caucus for the actions that he done. I can assure you that none of the $20Bil in the slush fund is ever going to make it to Louisiana. Not one cent because the Federal government will use it to pay stuff elsewhere(like Unions and whatnot). Before we have BP start an $20Bil escrow account, we need to know where the money is going to and if it’s going to what it intended to. Otherwise, forget the whole thing.

  • http://56rebels.wordpress.com/ 56rebels

    Hate to be a noob but what does “NT” mean? In the subject lines or in the posts? Any help?

    Or N/T?

  • http://thesandsinstitute.org Vassar Bushmills

    VB

  • Scope

    “They’ve “agreed” to put this $20 billion dollars in escrow. I don’t know what context Mr. Barton was making with that remark, but, I’m glad BP has accepted responsibility for their actions.” He could very easily have said that Mr. Barton’s use of language was unnecessary, but, the manner in which this escrow fund was done is not in keeping with our Constitution or the rule of law. NOOOOOO, so in other words, he agrees with the shakedown method used, and, is willing to be a part of the Constitution burning.

    What about Greyson’s outreageous remarks, like, the Republicans just want you to die. He never backtracked or was never called on the carpet by the Dems.

    Now, for the best one, the House Conservatives Republican Study Committee have called the BP fund a “Chicago-style shakedown.”

    http://rsc.tomprice.house.gov/News/DocumentSingle.aspx?DocumentID=191125

    And, as Vassar pointed out, Boehner himself called it a “slushfund.” Michele Bachman said it was a “redistribution of wealth fund”, but she too, later backtracked on her statement. It seems that the House top R idiots are the only ones allowed to make statements. It’s like they have put a gag order on all other R’s. They are TRYING TO LOSE the elections in 2010. No wonder the Tea Party folks, and the Independents are leaving the Libs, but, are not flocking to the R’s. It’s like, do I vote for dumb, or do I vote for stupid.

  • Scope

    and the people will have to go to the Government Pay Czar for funds, I wonder how much slower the process will be to collect their money. The payout time is going to make alot of people very angry. And, the blame will still be put on BP, even though they will not be involved.

    The O administration just keeps getting better and bigger with their screw ups. Then they blame Bush, or someone else.

  • itrytobenice

    I care. I care that we’re no longer a nation of laws.

    I lump this together with the illegal cramdown of GM’s bondholders to the benefit of unions. I lump this together with the wage controls the administration tried to place on banks who were forced to accept TARP money under threat of destruction by FDIC exam.

    I care very, very much. I don’t know that I’ve ever been so discouraged with and contemptuous of my government as I am right now.

  • p3orion

    “Nice oil company you got ‘dere, Be a shame if anyt’ing wuz to happen to it.”

  • http://theminorityreportblog.com Repair_Man_Jack
  • BA Cyclone

    5^5.

  • utahrepublican

    You’re all correct! Process does matter, and Barton was correct to object to the process. Especially since Barry O now has a $20 Billion slush fund under the control of a hand-picked Czar. (If you don’t think there is a “risk” that union and democrat claims will be paid at a faster and higher rate than other claims, particularly from identifiable Republicans, you are considerably more optimistic on this issue than I am.)

    Yes, it would be nice be nice if every statement by a Republican were carefully vetted in advance for political impact; and it would have undoubtedly be better if Barton had picked a phrasing that didn’t seem to “support” BP. One the other hand (Tevye again), if given only an “either/or” choice, I would rather have a candid remark from an honest man who recognizes significant government wrong than a carefully calculating candidate who only speaks politically. I therefore am willing to forgive Barton for being so fixated on the Chi Town Shakedown coming to Washington that for a moment he was conservative and candid instead of conservative and calculating.

    Or, to misquote George Orwell, both those who prefer government integrity and those who prefer effective communication in advocacy of government integrity are right. However, those who value actual government integrity ahead of effective advocacy are (IMHO) more right. Of course the best do both, but if I can’t have best, I’ll settle for better.

    Offer encouragement and good advice to those trying to do right when you can, but do it in a positive way if possible. Personally, I think Barton was right in his motives, open in his candidacy and even though his method could have been improved, he should only be subjected to counseling instead of criticism.

  • utahrepublican

    I no sooner sent the above than I notice some typos. Please forgive my lack of secretarial skills and focus on the principles in the above.

  • davidn

    To compound the error, the GOP was also wrong to have to threaten him to reverse his statement.

    There was little, if any, arm twisting. BP has agreed to cover claims, however, the promptness of those claims seem to be very slow. The WH meeting was an opportunity to give BP the grief they so richly deserve. Further, it was a vehicle to agree to set aside how those funds would be paid and by whom.

    I still can’t believe Joe Barton apologized – what a doofus.

    Sorry, Erick – you took the wrong tack on this one as well.

  • teapartypatriot

    The reaction of the gop establishment to Barton’s right-on statement shows why NO responsible citizens trusts these spineless, gutless weasels any more than they do the d-crat socialists.

    Barton should be praised for correctly characterizing the unlawful actions of the hussein regime thugs as criminal EXTORTION in robbing BP to create yet another d-crat socialist slush fund.

  • E Pluribus Unum

    That’s not the kind of thing we usually have heard about Cantor. but I must say, I’m not surprised, given what he does in the trenches.

  • E Pluribus Unum

    That’s not the kind of thing we usually have heard about Cantor. but I must say, I’m not surprised, given what he does in the trenches.

  • texasgalt

    and how are you attached to the current administration?

    Since you apparently have inside information, how will the funds be paid and to whom (besides OFA)?

  • carryon

    Everyone seems to be using the expression “shakedown” in this thread, but I am not sure that I am seeing any alternative ideas. Would it be better to just a) take BP at their word that they will pay claims or b) force those who have suffered loss to litigate, an alternative which would take years to resolve and only profit the lawyers? Personally, I think this is the first thing Obama has done right in this disaster. We can criticize him for a lot, but for trying to ensure that people get paid for BP’s misdeeds in a timely manner hardly seems to be a bad thing. If it is, what alternatives do people suggest?

  • melissatx

    Thanks for the benefit of the doubt, though.
    While I was waiting for this to post I got a not it was a duplicate….I
    S W E A R I only hit it one time. It’s that stupid plate in my head.

  • montanaman

    Good ‘ol Joe Barton is quite a man in my estimation. He courageously spoke his mind, then found himself in a situation where it became necessary to retract what he had said. The story goes like this: Supposedly the GOP turned on him and threatened to strip him of his post as the top Republican on the Energy and Commerce Committee. It is said that he was within a centimeter of losing his position. This is what the news media reported as the reason for his reversal. However, I seriously doubt this is what really happened. I do think that they got together with him and convinced him to cooperate in their plan. I believe that being stripped of the committee position is the contrived reason they all agreed upon. He was told that they would publicly back away from him and his apology. They saw that it was absolutely necessary for him to retract his apology in order to prevent the Dems from twisting/replaying his statement and using it against them at election time. In addition, by alienating him the Republicans could claim that Joe was a lone wolf feeling sorry for Mr Hayward. The Dems would be unable to say in the future that the Republican party sides with guilty powerful corporations and not with the people.

    Anyway, many of us have had jobs that required us to swallow our pride when we were right. It would be quite impractical as well as “the easy way out” to stubbornly quit when the going got tough or things seemed unfair. Joe did the commendable thing by surrendering this battle to fight another day. Rather than create a disruption, he willingly fell on the grenade. Once he had fulfilled this demand, he then contacted BP’s CEO Tony Hayward on his own and repeated his original apology for the way he was being treated. This he didn’t have to do. However, this had all been pre-approved since the entire Republican party had publicly castigated him and he was doing this on his own.

    So in my estimation he didn’t fold, as there was something of much greater importance at stake. The GOP is determined to win the war at the polls in 2011 and it would be foolish for this incident to prevent it. Yes, it’s a small price to pay to get rid of that false messiah and his pagan worshipers.

    With God’s help we’ll win in 2011!

  • http://jhowell.net jameshowell

    I sat next to Congressman Barton today on flight 1087 from Reagan National to DFW. He was in 6E and I was in 6F. I didn’t engage him in conversation, but he looked really stressed. Before take off and after landing, he received numerous texts asking if he was okay.

  • nhprman

    When did the GOP become such wimps? Teddy Roosevelt threatened to to use the United States Army to mine the coal and seize the mines during the 1902 coal strike. Reagan fired striking air traffic controllers in 1981. Did they have the Constitutional RIGHT to intervene in these industries? Sure they did. They wee protecting interstate commerce and the general welfare of the American people.

    The GOP is so much the B***h of the multinationals, and China, that we can’t seem to recognize that economic nationalism is the ONLY way to secure our nation’s future.

    Newt Gingrich said on Fox News “The Constitution is above the need to protect the pelicans [in the Gulf].” If so, then the Constitution is flawed (but fear not, it’s not. The Founders built flexibility into the document, though its provisions remain rigid enough to not be abused – not for long, anyway.)

  • texasgalt

    when we have a president who has at every opportunity apologized to countries all over the world for the past actions of the United States.

    And yet . . . and yet . . .

    Congressman Joe Barton is soundly beaten down and pilloried for apologizing for an unlawful shakedown of a public corporation (yes, perhaps an outlaw corporation) by the very same president who has no problem making nice with and even apologizing to outlaw countries.

    And you, nhprman, come out of your long hibernation to tell us the shakedown is ok because of all that living, breathing document crap. Just go back to sleep.

  • 1stRichard

    A shakedown now is wrong no matter how you try to spin it. But first let me explain where I am coming from, when there is any sort of breakdown in an industry most everyone is running away, I am the one running toward it. This is my profession, a millwright, engineering technician, maintenance man or what ever you want to call it, I am the person on the front line turning the wrench and fixing the problem. I have worked with some of the top companies in the world to the smallest, and I have been doing it for over thirty years. I do not claim I know what Barton or others are thinking but I do believe there is a point to be made in this and a good many of you are wrong and clueless from my experience. First fact I wish to point out to some of you is that what ever you throw at a CEO or most any executive it will not stick, and if it sticks most of it will always roll down hill. I am the one that works at the bottom of the hill and see where it is coming from all the time. Are some of you that na?ve to think that being up to my hips in it helps the problem? From what information I have, those working to fix the oil leak are up to their hip in it as well. Whatever the problem is, it should be all hands on deck working together to put out the fire, there is no time for shakedowns and demonizing now. This takes leadership and knowledge that is sorely lacking in this, and this includes Joe Barton as I have the up most confidence that he will blow this opportunity. Most so called Republicans are not fighters and too willing to roll over and play dead. There is a time and a place for shakedowns and demonizing, now is not the time. To apologize for the timing would be proper.

  • Flagstaff

    In my comment’s case, the lack of cleverness now turns out to be on the part of Republican leadership.

    After witnessing the BP mugging in the White House, Barton himself was figuratively mugged in the Congressional cloakroom.

    Chicago political tactics are catching on in DC.

  • the_invisible_hand

    Whether or not Joe Barton was correct in his statement, his comment only served to enable the very shakedown he attacked.

    To me, you aren’t courageous when you speak unwisely such that you assist those you denounce.

    In an election year, with the stakes so high, Joe Barton put the party and the party leadership in a huge bind and handed a hammer to Democrats with which to bludgeon us.

    This is war folks, and Joe Barton just showed he may be with us on ideology, but he can’t be trusted in the trenches.

    Don’t attack Boehner and Cantor who are just trying to limit the damage of this PR nightmare to Republicans across the country. Joe Barton should be bashed for shooting us in the foot.

  • gekster

    So you say don’t speak the truth?
    And when has the truth caused harm??

  • Doc Holliday

    he is not the future, he is the past. there is a time and place to make certain arguments, Barton does not realize that. We don’t now the BP money is a “slush fund”, and if it is, we can fight it in court.

    The small government conservative movement is on the precipice of victory. Joe Barton does not get to decide when we lose our focus, our focus should be on 2010.

  • davidn

    If Joe Barton was so correct why do you think the GOP jumped on his ass so fast?

    Answer that and we may have closure on this.

  • Richard Mullins

    in 2 posts. Yeah, a 2-star general in the Venezuelan Army is more like it. The $20 Bil isn’t getting going to Victims in the Gulf, it’s going to line the pockets of the Democratic party. BTW, did you read of this diary on Daily Kos because it seems that seems you would be a Kossick. The must be a lot of 2-Generals around that think they know better. Generals and Physicians are a perfect pair on idiocy. So moron, got any better ideas?

  • Bill S

    Being involved in politics means not only being right, but knowing when to be right and knowing when to keep quiet. He may have been right, but it was at the wrong time.

  • Bill S
  • Bill S

    It means the entire content of your comment is contained in the title, and there is no text in the body.

  • Bill S

    IE is a particularly bad one. But that’s just IE – bad.

  • david7134

    Can anyone tell me exactly what BP did wrong? There has been a considerable amount of complaint about the company, but no one has indicated yet what occured or whose fault this was. Remember, we have been down this road many times and people and companies have been devistated only to find out no one did anything wrong. I have worked oil wells myself and know that you are basically sitting on a bomb. In this case the blow out preventer did not work but what will consistently work at 5000 feet.

    As to the spill, that was as much our government’s fault as anyone’s. We are supposed to have a working plan to deal with this, we don’t. We had offeres from other countries to help, we didn’t. Every effort has been made to make sure the EPA does extensive studies and that all boats have a life preserver. Yet time passes and nothing is done or attempted. I know first hand that BP is working 24/7 with everything they can but I also know that when you see the government on the job, it is a photo op.

    Now think for a minute. Who is BP. We are BP. We are Goldman Sacks and all the other companies that have been made into demons. That is because in one way or another we own a stake in these companies. Stocks, bond, pensions, etc. That is our wealth. That is our country. That funds everything we do and gives us jobs. What does our govenment do, nothing, nada. Wait I am sorry they make sure we can’t do things because of rules and regulations that are worthless.

    We don’t need to critize BP, we need to help them. We need to get rid of our government and replace it with the one in the Constitution.

  • cactusjack

    here, and Hogan and texasgalt are correct. What stands above all else here – you can change the players and even the parties – is that in our constitutional system, an unconstitutional, extra-legal power grab by the executive branch has gone unchallenged. In our system so I believed before this week, it is the judicial branch which adjudicates liability and damages. Not the executive or legislative branches (except in case of military trials, but “this ain’t that”). Obama is getting away with it right in front of our eyes. BP was in a tight place and had to survive. They have accomplished that, by doing same they have had to do with countless other Third World regimes all over the world – deal with the thug in chief and agree to his demands for money, essentially. Companies and countries all over the world are watching, who heretofore depended on at least consistency and predictablity in our courts and business lawsin making decisions whether to do business here vs. South America or Southeast Asia. Joe Barton said nothing but the truth and will be vindicated, although he is now paying the price for telling truth to power, as did the forcibly retired General Billy Mitchell. He is accountable to his constituents south of Dallas, not Boehner or Markey. His constituents agree with him and will re-elect him for his political courage. I am sure Brett Bozell or Breitbart can find ways to turn the negative sound bites to a better debate on more favorable ground for the GOP, if they have the courage to start closing with and engaging the foe.

  • izoneguy

    http://preview.bloomberg.com/news/2010-06-17/bp-struggled-with-cracks-in-gulf-well-as-early-as-february-documents-show.html

    In early March, BP told the minerals agency the company was having trouble maintaining control of surging natural gas, according to e-mails released May 30 by the House Energy and Commerce Committee, which is investigating the spill.

    On March 10, BP executive Scherie Douglas e-mailed Frank Patton, the mineral service?s drilling engineer for the New Orleans district, telling him: ?We?re in the midst of a well control situation.?

    This should have sent warning sirens off at MMS…..
    No one was doing a “what if”, now they are all doing
    a “what now?”…..

    Government=too big to listen…..

    And these people want to run healthcare?

  • JSobieski

    If he did, and BP stonewalled, I think the apology and characterizations would be more appropriate. However, the apology was the first thing out of his mouth–i.e. he apologized before he had the opportunity to ask questions and probe the possibility that the meeting was a shakedown.

    We need better tactical thinking on our side. We need to be both right and smart. This is the big leagues.

  • nhprman

    I did come out of a long hibernation, but was forced to by the Idiotarianism that is swamping the GOP like an oil slick.

    Also – agreed, Obama’s apology tour is bad for America, and is a disgrace. Off-topic, but thanks for sharing that, and letting me agree with it.

    Now, for Barton – he needs to get his head out of BP’s backsides and start acting like a congressman in a state who has been Wronged by that corporation. Multinationals aren?t going to play nice on their own and clean up their messes. That?s Randite Fantasyland. Nor can the government step in and do it all themselves. BALANCE is needed, and demanded, by the American people, not philosophical blinders and extremist rhetoric.

    And stop the paranoia about the “end times” (assuming you mean this comment *politically.* Far be it from me to comment about your religious views.)

    Go back and read, and watch, Ronald Reagan?s speeches. He would have hated the kind of doom/gloom Jimmy Carter-like language that Beck and others are spouting. We’re just GETTING STARTED as a Nation! We survived Carter and Clinton, we?ll survive Obama, too.