Remember, John Cornyn said the NRSC had learned its lesson.
Remember, John Cornyn said the NRSC would now stay out of primaries.
Why then is the Wall Street Journal reporting John Cornyn is off to Colorado to campaign with Jane Norton?
First, it is a recognition that Ken Buck‘s campaign is ahead of the NRSC’s chosen campaign.
Second, it is a recognition that the NRSC has the integrity of Charlie Crist and Arlen Specter, both of whom the NRSC supported.
The NRSC lost Nevada to Sharron Angle and immediately certain Republican staffers mumbled to the press that Nevada was a goner. When Crist jumped from the Republican Party, some Republican staffers moaned that Florida was gone too. They did the same with Kentucky.
Ken Buck leads Jane Norton, Sharron Angle leads Harry Reid, Rand Paul leads that guy in Kentucky, and Marco Rubio is winning in Florida.
Oh, but the NRSC’s Mark Kirk is floundering behind a mobster in Illinois. Bob Bennett is headed to the ash heap of history along with Arlen Specter. Let’s not mention the NRSC’s candidate in California.
Folks, conservatives must make a stand in Colorado and we must stand with Ken Buck. Jane Norton’s campaign is relentlessly attacking Ken Buck instead of building herself up. Why? The establishment — the TARP voting bailout kings of the Republican Party — fear a man like Ken Buck allying with Jim DeMint.
Jeff Emanuel
Neil Stevens
This probably helps Ken Buck
tommer (Diary) Friday, June 18th at 1:14PM EDT (link)Isn’t there a good chance this just further gins up support for Ken Buck? It seems the NRSC didn’t get the memo: they are the problem and we’re fixing to take care of the problem.
Amen
takemccain2 (Diary) Friday, June 18th at 8:39PM EDT (link)I couldn’t agree more.
We should encourage Senator Cornyn to go full ahead with his plans as his passe attitude towards the party base will only result in increased support for Ken Buck.
To say I’m disappointed in Cornyn is an understatement. To say I’m surprised though would be untruthful. These guys running the GOP just don’t get that they serve at our pleasure and that power is not their birth-right.
We need more Bucks, Rubios, Lees and Pauls, less Grahams, McCains, Bennetts and maybe even Cornyns.
We don’t need to let up. We need to work hard, give when we can and keep the word out there that government OF the people, BY the people and FOR the people will not perish from the face of the Earth.
God Bless all these candidates who are battling the establishment. They all deserve to win.
I think, therefore I am not a Democrat. I fight, therefore I am not a Republican.
Cherry Creek isn't TOO establishment, is it?
betsyred (Diary) Saturday, June 19th at 8:10AM EDT (link)Country club, blue-blood GOP establishment politics at their finest. The good Senator from AZ ought to spend his time doing fundraisers to help his nearly bankrupt state defend itself against Holder’s law suit on illegal immigration. Cornyn picked Charlie Crist, too, and as it turns out, ol’ Charlie’s going to be the best friend BHO has seen in a long, long time. Plus, isn’t there a contentious senate primary in AZ that maybe Mr. Cornyn could spend his time on? If he’s worried about Ken Buck, what happens if JD Hayworth goes to Washington? GOP establishment insiders continue to cling bitterly to their ideals that they, and they alone, know best in choosing candidates. Afterall, they’ve presided over the elections of Pelosi/Reid/Obama. What could go wrong in ’10 and ’12?
Fund Angle's Race
rightonredstate Sunday, June 20th at 1:19AM EDT (link)Y’all do not need the NRSC. Do a couple of blogs and raise tens of millions of dollars for the candidates you endorsed.
Time to get going, now the work begins. How about you start with Angle’s race. She is going to need about another 24 million dollars to win. Let see how far your all powerful endorsement gets you on this race.
So you think you can back hand the so called establishment and then demand that they do your will??? GROW UP!! Welcome to reality.
Whats wrong with the NRSC's candidate in California?
redtillimdead (Diary) Friday, June 18th at 1:23PM EDT (link)What, you’d prefer Babs so you have to put down the Republican candidate?
Nancy Pelosi can kiss my asstroturf.
The complaint is about the NRSC intervening in primaries
civil truth (Diary) Friday, June 18th at 1:31PM EDT (link)…rather than letting voters decide and then throwing their support in the general.
Instead the NRSC is throwing their weight around in the primary, and then failing to support (or even) attack the nominee if they voters chose a different candidate than the NRSC’s preferred choice.
This is completely backwards and indicates a monarchist mindset – which is going to take a grassroot rebellion to take back the party aware from these folks who don’t believe in representative democracy.
The greatest evil…is conceived and ordered (moved, seconded, carried, and minuted) in clean, carpeted, warmed, and well-lighted offices, by quiet men with white collars and cut fingernails and smooth-shaven cheeks who do not need to raise their voice. Hence, naturally enough, my symbol for Hell is something like the bureaucracy of a police state or the offices of a thoroughly nasty business concern. -C.S. Lewis
We all support Fiorina over Babs...
houstoneagle (Diary) Friday, June 18th at 6:22PM EDT (link)…no need to get any panties in a bundy over it if EE doesn’t necessarily wanna get out his pom-poms about her…it’s quite understandable.
“We preach the conservative gospel of individual liberty and choice and point out the only choice the Democrats want you to have is whether or not to kill a baby.”–Erick Erickson, D-Day 2010
agreed
takemccain2 (Diary) Friday, June 18th at 8:47PM EDT (link)I have MAJOR issues with Fiorina as she is a hand-picked McCain acolyte that is likely to go along with Amnesty and Cap-And-Trade. The less McCain-like candidates the win primaries, the happier I will be and the better off conservatives will be.
That being stated, Fiorina is the nominee and should get support in her race against Boxer, a woman who is a fringe lunatic. Once Fiorina gets elected we will need the conservative leadership to keep her in line. McCain needs as few allies as possible. He has already damaged the party enough. We don’t need him being able to cobble together another ‘Gang’ to undermine what the voters want. If Fiorina can be kept out of his orbit then she might end up being a decent choice. It will require vigilance on our part.
I think, therefore I am not a Democrat. I fight, therefore I am not a Republican.
Remember I said this...
Marcus_Traianus (Diary) Friday, June 18th at 1:36PM EDT (link)..Keeping around the “old guard” and putative leaders will be the Republican Parties Achilles heel and a ticket right back to the wilderness.
Like all politicians, they see the coming storm will largely benefit Republicans, and are giddy with the thought of being relevant again. But they are career politicians who are creatures of habit that will revert back to old ways and inclinations. Should this come to pass, we will all collectively pay with a continued downfall of our country. For the party, its reputation will continued to be besmirched by a bunch of people putting their own interests above the collective will of the people.
Any “contract’ for moving forward should include a requirement for new leadership in the House, Senate and party organizations including the NRSC and NRCC.
“Both of our political parties, at least the honest portion of them, agree conscientiously in the same object—the public good; but they differ essentially in what they deem the means of promoting that good. One side believes it best done by one composition of the governing powers; the other, by a different one. One fears most the ignorance of the people; the other, the selfishness of rulers independent of them. Which is right, time and experience will prove.”.Thomas Jefferson
This is exactly why I'm spending the entire balance
eburke (Diary) Friday, June 18th at 2:09PM EDT (link)of my “Obama’s gonna get it anyway fund” in the primaries. I figure the “Party Apparatus” will have to get behind the GOP candidates whether they’re particularly enamored with them or not (cf. Toomey and Rubio).
So, I’m donating my entire stash during the primaries in races where there is a true-blooded conservative running against an ‘establishment’ conservative when it’s convenient wannabe.
Thus, this post prompted a $100 donation to Buck who I’ve added to the list of Mike Lee, Tim Scott, Graves, Dan Benishek, DeVore, Stutzman, Rubio (before Crist bolted) Haley, etc. Haven’t won ‘em all but I figure it’s the only way to either send a message to the “Establishment” and/or just outright replace them.
“All that need be done for evil to triumph is for good men to do nothing.”
Unified Patriots
Might want to add Angle if you're feeling generous...
houstoneagle (Diary) Friday, June 18th at 6:24PM EDT (link)…I mean it’s your money, so do what you want, but if unseating Harry Reid isn’t priority 1 among our Senate races, I don’t know what is.
Obviously the top priority among House races must be Benishek.
Please don’t take my reply the wrong way eburke. Have a nice day.
“We preach the conservative gospel of individual liberty and choice and point out the only choice the Democrats want you to have is whether or not to kill a baby.”–Erick Erickson, D-Day 2010
Not at all houstoneagle. I haven't added Sharon
eburke (Diary) Friday, June 18th at 8:42PM EDT (link)’cause that primary’s done and there’ll be no shortage of money that the GOP will throw at Nevada to get Reid out. I mean, after all, Mitch may not give a rat’s rear end about the conservative movement but I have no doubt that he’s drooling over the prospect of getting Harry’s office.
Dan I gave to 3 days after Stupak stabbed us in the back on HCR.
“All that need be done for evil to triumph is for good men to do nothing.”
Unified Patriots
makes sense...carry on! nt
houstoneagle (Diary) Friday, June 18th at 9:00PM EDT (link)“We preach the conservative gospel of individual liberty and choice and point out the only choice the Democrats want you to have is whether or not to kill a baby.”–Erick Erickson, D-Day 2010
Preach it!
disintelligentsia (Diary) Friday, June 18th at 2:45PM EDT (link)Any “contract’ for moving forward should include a requirement for new leadership in the House, Senate and party organizations including the NRSC and NRCC.
— AMEN!
“Our peculiar security is in the possession of a written Constitution. Let us not make it a blank paper by construction.” –Thomas Jefferson to Wilson Nicholas, 1803.
Cornyn Is Not the NRSC
Locke (Diary) Friday, June 18th at 2:00PM EDT (link)so this
Second, it is a recognition that the NRSC has the integrity of Charlie
Crist and Arlen Specter, both of whom the NRSC supported.
is over the top.
You're not even getting "wrong" right.
acat (Diary) Friday, June 18th at 2:18PM EDT (link)Or do you really believe that a seated RINO senator who is chairman of the National Republican Senatorial Committee has no power over the NRSC?
Tell me, what colour is the sky in your world?
Mew
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Caveat Suffragator
He's No DeMint, No Coburn
Locke (Diary) Friday, June 18th at 4:39PM EDT (link)but on this one, I’ll give him the benefit of the doubt until I see something to show he’s using NRSC resources to support Norton.
And I won’t call him a RINO when he ranks more fiscally conservative (NTU http://www.ntu.org/on-capitol-hill/ntu-rates-congress/members/senate/john-cornyn.html) than the median R.
But I agree with chihank – DeMint for NRSC Chair!
No, you don't want DeMint as NRSC Chair
Richard Mullins (Diary) Friday, June 18th at 11:58PM EDT (link)because the autonomous entity that is the NRSC kills off Conservatives.
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Joe Biden is like a Decrepit Park owner with a Meth lab that happens to not only be a dealer but a user.
Let’s Bankrupt the Democratic paty. Make spend all the money to defend thier candidates.
DeMint's next title will be Senate Majority Leader
E Pluribus Unum (Diary) Saturday, June 19th at 12:24AM EDT (link)In about 7 months.
Kill the Terrorists
Protect the Borders
Punch the Hippies h/t IMAO
That's much better for DeMint
Richard Mullins (Diary) Saturday, June 19th at 9:24AM EDT (link)It doesn’t rot conservatives to the core like being NRSC chair. It would have been better to find a Orrin Hatch senator to run it. As for a replacement for John Cornyn in 2014, I want Ted Poe but that might for other reasons that I won’t tell.
DeMint for Majority leader in the 112th congress is great and has a good ring. There might have to be a Draft DeMint thing going on.
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Joe Biden is like a Decrepit Park owner with a Meth lab that happens to not only be a dealer but a user.
Let’s Bankrupt the Democratic paty. Make spend all the money to defend thier candidates.
Yes sometimes it's just time to go
cactusjack Saturday, June 19th at 10:50PM EDT (link)Not from Utah but must wax a little sentimental about Hatch. Way back in the 1980s and 1990s, he was a real conservative warrior on the Senate Judicial Committee. If you like Clarence Thomas and Ollie North being where they are today, to wit, Thomas on SCOTUS and North on FOX, not in jail (that was another committee but Hatch was on that one too), you must acknowledge what Hatch did – read their books they sure do – and fighting Joe Biden who was opposite him on that committee, as well as all the other big name Dems back then. He was a conservative guerilla, through R majority and R minority. I guess so many years just wears one down and Washington gets too familiar and it is time for the younger ones to gently lead him to pasture, if he will go. Fought many a good fight.
Yes Ted Poe from the "Fightin' 2nd District" -
cactusjack Saturday, June 19th at 10:55PM EDT (link)which if not mistaken was the same district where “Good Time Charlie “Charles Nesbitt Wilson was elected from several terms. Must be something in the water there in the piney woods. We need to bottle it and send it to the R leadership.
That's because Conservatives haven't said..
acat (Diary) Saturday, June 19th at 4:56AM EDT (link)“Hello, I’m the new boss, and you’re all fired” often enough.
The gutless D.C. weasels and “consultants” are running the show, and it’s the same show that’s been going on for decades, only the “official star” changes.
I’d even take a motivated and effective RINO in the slot if I thought that wasn’t an oxymoron.
Mew
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MAN, ain't that the truth
E Pluribus Unum (Diary) Saturday, June 19th at 10:48AM EDT (link)Or maybe that’s CAT, ain’t that the truth. I subscribe to the Achance school of “first day chores” for any new Republican president, governor, cabinet member, congressman, or appointee at any level for any position for any reason.
Fire every single person you have the authority to fire, and probably a couple that you don’t. And it doesn’t matter if you are replacing a Republican, because there’s a 99% chance THEY did not do that.
Kill the Terrorists
Protect the Borders
Punch the Hippies h/t IMAO
I want Chris Christie there.
itrytobenice (Diary) Saturday, June 19th at 10:34PM EDT (link)Where? Anywhere!!! I want Christie clones in the RNC, the NRSC, the NRCC, etc.
From now on, I’m not gonna say more cowbell, I’m gonna say more Christie!!
Proper grammar saves lives.
Let’s eat Grandma.
Let’s eat, Grandma.
And I should point out what won me over to that opinion:
itrytobenice (Diary) Saturday, June 19th at 10:35PM EDT (link)When he refused to re-appoint a liberal justice to the NJSC even though it was going to be attacked on racial grounds and even though “we always do that.”
Proper grammar saves lives.
Let’s eat Grandma.
Let’s eat, Grandma.
DeMint for NRSC Chair
chihank Friday, June 18th at 2:16PM EDT (link)After 2010, I wnat DeMint to be the NRSC Chair. There are plenty of targets in 2012. DeMint can recruit good candidates to take on Webb, Brown, McCaskill, and Casey.
I can't wait for December!
acat (Diary) Friday, June 18th at 2:21PM EDT (link)When we get to open the can of whup-a$$ on Cornyn, Steele, et al.
Mew
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Well, I'm seeing a pattern here, and the lesson learned is
Praying (Diary) Friday, June 18th at 2:47PM EDT (link)I’m for whomever is opposing the designated NRSC candidate. Why shouldn’t the GOP resort to Orwellian doublespeak? It’s all the rage with the progressives in Washington DC.
No!!!11!1!!1!1! The Bilderbergers are coming
WSJ: "Cornyn Appearance at Colorado Fundraiser Could Irk Conservatives"
RedBeard Friday, June 18th at 3:27PM EDT (link)Could? As if there is any doubt? Good grief.
It seems like a difficult job to nail down a coffin lid while lying inside, but somehow Cornyn is managing to do just that, politically speaking.
Standard-bearer for grouchy curmudgeonry since, oh, 1975 or so.
Can't somebody just offer Jane Norton
sch1168 Friday, June 18th at 4:24PM EDT (link)a job in the NRSC so Ken Buck can have the nomination?
Oh, wait. Oops, it’s the other side who does that.
Frankly, I’m sick to death of party brass nominating candidates in Colorado. They need to keep their fingers out of our pie and let us pick. Grrrr.
If they offered her a job, she'd have to check with her staffer before accepting. nt
houstoneagle (Diary) Friday, June 18th at 6:31PM EDT (link)“We preach the conservative gospel of individual liberty and choice and point out the only choice the Democrats want you to have is whether or not to kill a baby.”–Erick Erickson, D-Day 2010
ROFL! -nt-
eburke (Diary) Friday, June 18th at 8:45PM EDT (link)“All that need be done for evil to triumph is for good men to do nothing.”
Unified Patriots
It would be nice if all the national groups stayed out.
NightTwister (Diary) Friday, June 18th at 9:48PM EDT (link)But, they won’t.
“Baseball fits America well because it expresses our longing for the rule of law while licensing our resentment of law givers.” ― Major League Commissioner of Baseball A. Bartlett Giamatti
The core of the GOP Senate must go
fpete13527 (Diary) Friday, June 18th at 5:05PM EDT (link)Given their stand to continue to support liberals……even after both of their poster candiudates defected, it is clear that their inner motives are liberal and that they lack integrity. And……there are practically no GOP Senators who are willing to stand up against this RINO liberal mentality……because most have the same mentality.
The current GOP Senate is a walking, wimpy, liberal disgrace. I am tired of them disrupting all the quality work that people are doing to take back the country.
I say throw out 90% …..or more…of the entire GOP Senate in the fall. They are unwilling to take a stand for conservatism and they are unwilling to demonstrate courage and leadership.
Yet when it comes to endorsing in Arizona,
houstoneagle (Diary) Friday, June 18th at 6:30PM EDT (link)the crickets chirp by and large here at redstate. A golden opportunity to send a RINO packing to his long overdue retirement, but no, everyone wants to be neutral and trash the clearly conservative alternative…no matter McCain would, if re-elected, be serving in the Senate into his 80s.
Fortunately their primary is still a couple months away, so there is time to sway the neutrals. Who do you think is more likely to cast their secret ballot to change up the Senate leadership in January? McCain? or Hayworth?
“We preach the conservative gospel of individual liberty and choice and point out the only choice the Democrats want you to have is whether or not to kill a baby.”–Erick Erickson, D-Day 2010
Yup. Norton is a McCain crony too.
deano64 (Diary) Friday, June 18th at 7:00PM EDT (link)So many here are willing to accept another 6 years of McCain trying to undermine everything we’re trying to accomplish here.
Precinct Committeeman before it was cool.
“The American Republic will endure until the day Congress discovers that it can bribe the public with the public’s money.”
Alexis De Tocqueville
I despise McCain and hope AZ turns him out
takemccain2 (Diary) Friday, June 18th at 7:46PM EDT (link)I’m discouraged by the fact that people will believe his lie about wanting the border secured, a lie which is so outlandish when anyone can search online to see what he’s actually said about the issue for the last 5 years.
Some of the suckers who will be conned into voting for him are the same ones McCain referred to as “bigots” and “nativists.” The man is a major a-hole and deserves to be defeated.
It also wouldn’t surprise me to learn that Norton is a McCain prodigy just smacking at the bit to get into the Senate and help McCain continue to undermine conservatives and this country.
I think, therefore I am not a Democrat. I fight, therefore I am not a Republican.
takemccain2- That also goes hand in hand
Scope (Diary) Friday, June 18th at 8:04PM EDT (link)with his past support for Crap and Tax. He’s been quiet about that issue lately, since he is trying to deceive the voters, yet again, that he has gone right. No worries, he has his lapdog Graham holding his place, with Crap and Tax, while he continues to deceive the people.
Personally I could care less if Hayworth is the Republican version of Alan Greyson, or The Franken, with things he says, as long as he votes correctly.
Well, if you consider voting for every spending bill
mbecker908 (Diary) Friday, June 18th at 11:40PM EDT (link)and earmarking like crazy to be “correct”, then you’d love him.
Not that he’ll ever be voting for anything ever again.
Norton = McCain
winthisone Friday, June 18th at 9:42PM EDT (link)http://www.peoplespresscollective.org/2009/09/jane-norton-encouraged-to-run-by-john-mccain/
That's probably the worst reasoning I've ever seen.
NightTwister (Diary) Friday, June 18th at 9:51PM EDT (link)So what if Norton was encouraged to run by McCain? Doesn’t make her McCain. The arguments around here just get worse and worse in this race.
“Baseball fits America well because it expresses our longing for the rule of law while licensing our resentment of law givers.” ― Major League Commissioner of Baseball A. Bartlett Giamatti
where is McCain?
betsyred (Diary) Saturday, June 19th at 8:48PM EDT (link)any thoughts as to why Jane hasn’t had Sen. McCain come to the Centennial State and campaign with her, side by side?
Because she's clearly said she doesn't agree with many of his positions on the issues.
NightTwister (Diary) Saturday, June 19th at 11:47PM EDT (link)But don’t let the truth get in the way of your narrative.
“Baseball fits America well because it expresses our longing for the rule of law while licensing our resentment of law givers.” ― Major League Commissioner of Baseball A. Bartlett Giamatti
Never let the truth get in the way of your narrative...nt.
NightTwister (Diary) Friday, June 18th at 9:49PM EDT (link)“Baseball fits America well because it expresses our longing for the rule of law while licensing our resentment of law givers.” ― Major League Commissioner of Baseball A. Bartlett Giamatti
Just making it up as you go along?...nt.
NightTwister (Diary) Friday, June 18th at 11:35PM EDT (link)“Baseball fits America well because it expresses our longing for the rule of law while licensing our resentment of law givers.” ― Major League Commissioner of Baseball A. Bartlett Giamatti
Getting rid of GOP Senators THIS cycle is a poor strategy
Change Jar Conservative (Diary) Monday, June 21st at 6:50AM EDT (link)I actually feel much more strongly than that.
The key is to put in the most conservative Senator that we can from any given in state.
Taking out Bennett makes sense because Utah is 100% of the time going to put in a Republican. Paul makes sense in Kentucky because of the same thing.
Would I (who personally loathe Carly Fiorina) LOVE to see Fiorina and Kirk join the US Senate… YOU BET I WOULD.
They are the most conservative of candidates that we are EVER going to get from those states. I love the Maine sisters too for the same reason.
Now, in Georgia, we could use a good candidate ( Erick? ) for Senate to go against our current GOPers thenext time they run. Both are big governement guys and both would have a very good chance of being replaced by a Republican if they could be beaten in a primary.
But this cycle is NOT the cycle to sacrifice seats. We must have a chance to filibuster in the Senate.
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The more I see of this
winthisone Friday, June 18th at 5:21PM EDT (link)the more $$$ I give Ken Buck. I am absolutely done with the good ol’ boys.
Same thing happened in Indiana
e_rowe (Diary) Friday, June 18th at 10:46PM EDT (link)The NRSC supported both of the establishment moderates in the Senate race, Coats and Stutzman, but not the more right-wing anti-establishment Congressman Hostettler.
Heh,,,in a wave election when Conservativism is sweeping the nation...the NRSC is backing liberal candidates
AceInTX (Diary) Friday, June 18th at 11:04PM EDT (link)while trashing conservatives who are not only candidates…but are the nominee’s for the party no less…
How does it work that they trash Conservatives for a lack of party loyalty while feeling no compunction whatsoever to live up to the same standard they demand of us!
Norton is a liberal now?
NightTwister (Diary) Friday, June 18th at 11:32PM EDT (link)This has gone from surreal to absurd.
“Baseball fits America well because it expresses our longing for the rule of law while licensing our resentment of law givers.” ― Major League Commissioner of Baseball A. Bartlett Giamatti
Hyperbole.....
AceInTX (Diary) Friday, June 18th at 11:40PM EDT (link)saying “less conservative candidate” just doesn’t sound right,
See, that's just it. She isn't.
NightTwister (Diary) Friday, June 18th at 11:58PM EDT (link)Not that it matters around here.
“Baseball fits America well because it expresses our longing for the rule of law while licensing our resentment of law givers.” ― Major League Commissioner of Baseball A. Bartlett Giamatti
The thing is....no one would bark if Nirton won the nomination without help from the establishment....
AceInTX (Diary) Saturday, June 19th at 12:12AM EDT (link)but that’s not the way she’ll win it if she does is it?
and the problem is compounded by the fact that the NRSC keeps playing cute and saying they’ll stop interfering in primaries…and then they keep getting caught with their hand in the cookie jar
BS
NightTwister (Diary) Saturday, June 19th at 12:17AM EDT (link)That’s not what this race is about. And Cornyn’s involvement (NOT NRSC) isn’t why most are opposed. They way it’s going now, I expect a lot of “conservatives” to stay home in November if Norton wins the Primary. Another six years of liberal Bennet is not what I’m interested in having. You guys won’t have to live with the damage you’ve done.
“Baseball fits America well because it expresses our longing for the rule of law while licensing our resentment of law givers.” ― Major League Commissioner of Baseball A. Bartlett Giamatti
Conservatives will do what they've always done...they'll vote for the Republian....
AceInTX (Diary) Saturday, June 19th at 12:45AM EDT (link)It’s not Conservatives that take their ball and go home…that’s reserved for the likes of Crist, Specter, Scozzafava, Jeffords and a whole list of others who will stay with the Republican Party as long as they are allowed to play tiddly winks with the Democrats and back stab the party at their whim…
I didn't finish...
AceInTX (Diary) Saturday, June 19th at 12:49AM EDT (link)that’s reserved for the likes of Crist, Specter, Scozzafava, Jeffords and a whole list of others who will stay with the Republican Party as long as they are allowed to play tiddly winks with the Democrats and back stab the party at their whim…but cut and run to the other Party at the first sign of opposition to their double dealing
You have no clue.
NightTwister (Diary) Saturday, June 19th at 8:42AM EDT (link)It is in fact the conservatives that stayed home in the 2008 CO-4 race and is the reason why Betsy Markey is our Representative. Same for the Gov. race in 2006. Same for the Senate race in 2006. Yes, they got the representative that they deserved, but much ammunition was given to their opponents by some conservatives during the Primary, just like what’s happening now. They stayed home because they weren’t going to vote for another RiNO, even though the candidate wasn’t one. They’d just been successfully painted that way by others, just like what’s happening now in the CO Senate race.
“Baseball fits America well because it expresses our longing for the rule of law while licensing our resentment of law givers.” ― Major League Commissioner of Baseball A. Bartlett Giamatti
That may or may not be true, I have no way to verify or deny that...
AceInTX (Diary) Saturday, June 19th at 12:44PM EDT (link)staying home is entirely different than either quitting and endorsing the Democrat in the race, or jumping to the other side altogether….
Here’s a thought…if that’s true…how about supporting candidates that will ensure an energized base and make sure they turn out to vote and volunteer for GOTV efforts….
Which brings us back to the subject of this article….instead of whining about conservatives wanting someone to vote fore instead of being forced to vote for the lesser of two evils….why doesn’t the establishment of this party…and the cheerleaders of that establishment stay out of the primaries and let the voters choose who they want to have represent them
Actually Ace, there's no difference 'tween 'em.
mbecker908 (Diary) Saturday, June 19th at 1:46PM EDT (link)The net result is the same, Democrats get elected. At least people like Scuz in NY have the common decency to burn a bridge when they jump. The airheads who stay home “on principle” are the ones who should rot in hell. I can’t find the stats, but I’m pretty sure it “conservatives” staying home that elected Obama.
As far as the “establishment” getting involved, they always will. Period. The only option is to become the establishment. Oh, and FWIW, the establishment of the Republican Party isn’t a whole lot more successful electing their candidates than BO is electing his.
On that note, you’ll certainly approve of the establishment staying out of the race in Arizona, huh?
Rand Paul & Angle going Establishment?
chihank Saturday, June 19th at 2:31PM EDT (link)This week, Angle & Paul met with GOP Senators on how to win their general elections. John McCain & John Ensign agreed to become co-mentors to Sharron Angle. The Dems are thinking of making past statements of Rand Paul & Sharron Angle into a national referendum on the GOP. The NRSC thinks they can counter the Dems by attempting to mainstream Angle & Paul, avoid any lightning rod issues.
the knock isn't with the party getting involved after the primary is over...
AceInTX (Diary) Sunday, June 20th at 12:05AM EDT (link)it’s with them getting involved early and hand picking winners and losers…and increasingly they back the loser…se Crist, Specter, Scozzafava, Chafee, Jeffords, and on and on and on….Erick has posted an extensive list of prior establishment candidates who have turned on the party and endorsed the democrat after they drop out or are beaten.
the establishment IS involved in AZ...McCain is the establishment
AceInTX (Diary) Sunday, June 20th at 12:00AM EDT (link)second…I stop far short of wishing people to burn in hell…
third, I don’t approve of staying home when faced with a socialist/communist scum bag hell bent on destroying this country…but that doesn’t change the need for this party to give people a reason to vote. Exciting the base and getting them to turn out is mission one in any sound campaign and any healthy party puts that as the first order of business in any campaign…Antagonizing and turning off your base is poison for any party…but somehow the establishment of the party seems hell bent on doing just that.
Here's the thing Ace.
mbecker908 (Diary) Sunday, June 20th at 2:04AM EDT (link)1. I’ve never accused you of either encouraging people to stay home or vote for a third party.
2. When you make your points on this subject you get wound up in broad generalities when you really need to be discussing specifics. By making general statements you give the impression that if your anointed candidate isn’t in the general you’re taking your ball and going home. That’s the perception you give.
How about this?
NightTwister (Diary) Sunday, June 20th at 12:19AM EDT (link)When there are two conservative candidates in a race, ALL the national groups just stay out and let us pick for ourselves?
How about people stop comparing a conservative candidate with other moderates and liberals from other states?
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isn't that what I've said over an\nd over again?
AceInTX (Diary) Sunday, June 20th at 1:41AM EDT (link)When there are two conservative candidates in a race, ALL the national groups just stay out and let us pick for ourselves?
So what you're saying is...
NightTwister (Diary) Monday, June 21st at 10:46AM EDT (link)Jim DeMint and his Conservative Fund should stay out of Colorado?
“Baseball fits America well because it expresses our longing for the rule of law while licensing our resentment of law givers.” ― Major League Commissioner of Baseball A. Bartlett Giamatti
no....Jim Demint's Conservative fund is separate from the Party
AceInTX (Diary) Monday, June 21st at 10:05PM EDT (link)My beef…and the beef of the rest of us is with the PARTY the RNC, the NRSC, and the NRCC getting into local elections
No, Ace, my experience is the self-annointed "true conservatives" stay home or go third party
Achance (Diary) Saturday, June 19th at 1:03PM EDT (link)when they don’t get their way. Most of the ones going around howling about the Constitution here are either Paultards or Black Helicopter guys or both anyway, but since their Libertarian, Constitutional, or Alaska Independence parties can’t elect anybody, they try to influence the Republican Party. What most of them can’t seem to understand is that the “R” is for Republican, not Redneck. ‘Course, when they don’t get their way on platform planks, party officers, or when their latest savior of “constitutional conservatism” gets three percent in the Republican Primary, they either go to their true home, one of the third parties, or they just stay home. Actually, I prefer that they just stay home because that is less likely to elect the Democrat than a bunch of support going to a third party because rising poll numbers for the third party has a synergy that can really siphon off significant votes from the Republican and elect the Democrat That’s how we got eight years of a liberal Democrat in one of the most Republican states in the Country with Knowles. The 10K or so votes that went to the Constitutional Party would have handily re-elected Sen. Stevens instead of sending a liberal Democrat to the Senate from Alaska.
In Vino Veritas
Which is why I mock them when I get the chance [nt]
Bill S (Diary) Saturday, June 19th at 2:38PM EDT (link)“It’s such a fine line between stupid, and clever.” – David St. Hubbins
Name one Art....I can name moderate after moderate who has dropped out and endorsed the Dem
AceInTX (Diary) Sunday, June 20th at 12:07AM EDT (link)or cut a deal and handed either the majority…or the 60th vote to the Democrat….name one so called True conservative who has done so…I’ll give you three moderates for every one you name!
Oh...and am I to read from this that you don't like the constitution all that much? and are Erick, Arron, EPU and any number of other people here who quote the constitution Paultards?
AceInTX (Diary) Sunday, June 20th at 12:11AM EDT (link)Oh yeah...and all "True Conservatives" are Rednecks and racists?
AceInTX (Diary) Sunday, June 20th at 12:23AM EDT (link)at least we now know where you stand when it comes to all these new people who are energized and ready to toss the messiah out on his ear….they’re all to icky for you it appears.
Ace, if you and several others spent half as much time attacking Democrats
Achance (Diary) Tuesday, June 22nd at 12:39PM EDT (link)as you do attacking Republicans who don’t meet your self-imposed standards, we’d be a lot closer to defeating Comrade Obama. We’re doing a better job of defeating caucus Republicans than of defeating Democrats right now. See, e.g., this site’s endorsement of Murkowski’s opponent.
In Vino Veritas
heh
AceInTX (Diary) Tuesday, June 22nd at 11:29PM EDT (link)Did you hear?
gearwonk Sunday, June 20th at 12:28AM EDT (link)There’s a third option for when conservatives don’t get their way: the Second Amendment Remedy. We haven’t gotten a real clear definition from Sharron Angle exactly what that is, but the sound of it sends the imagination soaring, doesn’t it?
Norton is a liberal, still
winthisone Saturday, June 19th at 10:37AM EDT (link)Not only did she join with many democrats and liberal Republicans to push for the largest tax increase in Colorado history, she continues to support it as having been “necessary.”. I don’t want a senator who thinks more taxes are “necessary” unless we are truly in a national emergency..
You can forget about what the Democrats might hear from us. They have it all. They even have noted Norton’s little fling that produced $158,000 from the hedge funds.
I'll count that as a vote for Michael Bennet...nt.
NightTwister (Diary) Saturday, June 19th at 11:46PM EDT (link)“Baseball fits America well because it expresses our longing for the rule of law while licensing our resentment of law givers.” ― Major League Commissioner of Baseball A. Bartlett Giamatti
They're leftists, Ace. They have no principles.
realskinny (Diary) Saturday, June 19th at 4:52PM EDT (link)They’ve done the same thing here in Johnson County, KS. They try to get the most Left-wing nominated. If they win, Conservatives are expected to support them, but if the conservative wins the primary, the “moderates” all jump to the Democrat.
Erick -- Please follow your own stated rules
Change Jar Conservative (Diary) Monday, June 21st at 6:45AM EDT (link)The snarks at the NRSC, Crist, Spector, etc are just fine.
But I thought this site believed in “convervatives in the primary and REPUBLICANS in the GENERAL.”
Yet, you’re running down Kirk and Fiorina.
In case you haven’t noticed, Illinois and California are a TAD bit more liberal than Kentucky and Utah so the fact that these two aren’t winning is just a straw man that you don’t need for an otherwise strong argument.
DeVore would be completely out of the race in Cali if he had won by now and Fiorinia at least has a shot especially if important conservatives like yourself get behind her instead of throwing rocks at her whenever you get the chance.
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MF (Diary) Monday, June 21st at 1:22PM EDT (link)You’re completely wrong about DeVore. First, much of California hates Boxer. Elmer Fudd could garner a strong percentage against her. DeVore doesn’t have the name recognition of Fiorina, but if he had won the nomination, there is still a very good chance he could have taken the Senate seat. I will agree that Fiorina has even a better chance than DeVore would have had, but even though CA is pretty liberal, it’s not nearly as liberal as you make it out to be. A lot of them are beginning to see the light. (I use ‘them’ only because I have been a Californian who was never blinded in the first place, but I’ve lived here in CA for 27 years now, having been properly born and raised in a very conservative town in Ohio before graduating from college and then moving west.) I don’t think anyone could unseat Feinstein right now, but Boxer is extremely vulnerable, and would be to any (R).
Yes, rock-throwing at Fiorina is to be ceased. But I haven’t seen anything worse than a little nose-holding in her direction. My guess is that’s still allowed, especially if done by providing a constrast in conservative versus RINO.
DeVore comes in 3rd in the primary but could've won the general?
NightTwister (Diary) Monday, June 21st at 1:31PM EDT (link)Seriously, that’s your argument? Devore couldn’t get Republicans to vote for him, but Independents and Progressives would?
Some people just need to learn to let go.
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Boxer is weak
Neil Stevens (Diary) Monday, June 21st at 1:33PM EDT (link)Any of the three could beat her, I maintain.
DeVore in particular showed he can do a lot with a little, and he wouldn’t have a little once he became the showcase and got to campaign as the nominee.
Boxer is going down I tell you. DeVore could have done it, Campbell could have done it (incredibly), and Fiorina WILL do it.
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And some won't...nt.
NightTwister (Diary) Monday, June 21st at 1:59PM EDT (link)“Baseball fits America well because it expresses our longing for the rule of law while licensing our resentment of law givers.” ― Major League Commissioner of Baseball A. Bartlett Giamatti
I lived in California for 30 years
Change Jar Conservative (Diary) Monday, June 21st at 3:37PM EDT (link)so I know a bit about the landscape as well.
However, that’s not my point.
My point is that we are suppossed to support the Republicans after the primary and this diary (as of my comments) does not meet that criteria.
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My 14 years in California are responsible for my shift in politics!
From ME to You (Diary) Monday, June 21st at 3:48PM EDT (link)I was raised a Democrat and had my eyes opened in California as I watched the Dems’ destructive policies ruin what could be a great place to live!
Cornyn
1stsgt Monday, June 21st at 4:33PM EDT (link)He is my senator however when he comes up for reelection my vote will go to the Rep candidate running against him. Hutchinson lost my vote also.