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A Senate Candidate Helps Mexican Drug Lords Get U.S. Tax Dollars, Then Launches a Jihad Against Jim DeMint

By: Erick Erickson (Diary)  |  June 20th, 2010 at 02:58 PM  | 

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A few days ago, former Utah Senate candidate Cherilyn Eager, the woman who claimed Tim Bridgewater offered to pay off her campaign debt in exchange for her endorsement then denied that was a bribe before – you know – endorsing Bridgewater, came onto RedState and attacked Jim DeMint.

Eager claims that Jim DeMint and Mike Lee are both affiliated with some energy company I’ve never heard of and DeMint denies it. Best I can tell, the attack is as crazy as Cherilyn Eager is.

However, concurrent to Eager attacking Jim DeMint on RedState, Tim Bridgewater’s campaign has been using the exact same attack against Jim DeMint in Utah via flyers, emails, and phone calls. Bridgewater is claiming DeMint is shilling for the energy company. Here is one of the emails circulating straight from the Bridgewater campaign. (PDF)

The attack is a lie.

Here’s the truth: Jim DeMint has never attacked Tim Bridgewater. In fact, in each race DeMint has gone into with the exception of Rubio v. Crist, DeMint has always made the race about the guy he has endorsed, not the guy he did not.

Only after Jim DeMint’s Senate Conservatives Fund began questioning who was behind that anonymous mailer in Utah designed to hurt Mike Lee did Tim Bridgewater begin an all out assault on Jim DeMint. After Mike Lee filed an FEC complaint about the anonymous attack, Bridgewater escalated the attacks against Jim DeMint.

Makes you wonder what Bridgewater is so scared of.

Then there is this:

Cherilyn Eager’s IP address at RedState is identical to one used by an anonymous Bridgewater supporter’s at RedState.

Bridgewater’s campaign began specifically using the lie about the energy company to hurt Jim DeMint after I pointed out Bridgewater has been shilling for an Indonesian power company, sending American taxpayer dollars to Indonesia to fund energy studies using a company Bridgewater works with.

More troubling, Bridgewater has not and cannot deny that he helped secure U.S. tax dollars for a suspected Mexican drug lord to build housing no one on the planet can identify as actually existing.

Tim Bridgewater has run away from his fiscally liberal record as fast as he can and instead of addressing the issues, he’s attacking Jim DeMint.

Do we really want in the Senate a man who thinks it is okay to attack with lies the only Senator who regularly stands up for conservative voters across the country?

And what does it tell us about Tim Bridgewater that he’d attack Jim DeMint using lies that would be the truth if told about Tim Bridgewater? No doubt Bridgewater will next be saying it was DeMint who funneled tax dollars to Mexico to build invisible houses.

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  • ejstes2005

    Utah becoming the new South Carolina of dirty deals…….

  • rdelbov

    I love Jime deMint but he is the only US senator who stands up every day for Conservatives?

    How about
    Coburn?
    Inhofe?
    Crapo?
    Risch?
    Burr?
    Chambliss?
    Sessions?
    Bunning?
    Wyoming guys?

    Thune?

    I think the world of DeMint but are is he against the world in DC?

    If we are to believe the polls Bridgewater will be elected US senator next Tuesday–I think this take no prisoners attitude on him is more then a little wrong headed.

  • http://www.erickerickson.org Erick Erickson

    One poll shows Bridgewater ahead and another shows Lee ahead.

  • pamdale

    Short and sweet ? Tim Bridgewater uses the same tactics that the Left uses to hijack the voters ? lies and false promises. He?s desperate and is now saying and doing whatever it takes.

    There is only one constitutional conservative running in Utah for the US Senate, and that?s MIKE LEE.

    We must rise to the call of our countrymen. Utah must do it?s part to send the most qualified and most conservative representative to Washington to defeat them ? otherwise, my friends, we have lost all.

  • JadedByPolitics

    PATHETIC! I encourage fellow PATRIOTS in Utah to do the one thing you know to be RIGHT and that is to vote for Lee! It is apparent to me that Bridgewater aligning himself with Bennett has proven he will be a clone of Bennett WE NEED MORE!

  • itsjoanne

    and holding a rally for him tells us all we need to know about how Bridgewater would likely vote if he’s elected.

    If Bennett is replaced by Bridgewater Utah voters won’t have gained anything. I’m surprised, after spending so much money helping to defeat Bennett, that the Club for Growth has remained neutral ever since.

    Also I agree with the above poster that DeMint is not the only true conservative senator. Credit should go to Coburn, Sessions, and a few more. There aren’t many yet….. but hopefully several more in January.

  • earlgrey

    Do you want to share some polling data? I know DeMint has asked for people to do some calling for Lee. I don’t know if people would be turned off by calls on father’s day. There is always tomorrow.

  • rdelbov

    Just a note that like senators Hatch & Bennett—Bridgewater and Lee have never held elective office. If you look at their websites and here them speak Bridgewater and Lee say nearly the exact thing. To find a policy difference , at least based on what they say, is nearly impossible.

    I think both are very fine men and outstanding conservatives. teaparty support is 50-50 in Utah so people on the ground who got the chance to look these candidates in the eye -prior to convention and caucus-put Bridgewater ahead.

    DeMint ran a pro-Lee campaign but the Lee campaign itself has focused on going negative on Bridgewater.

  • ffc99

    have any actual evidence that Bridgewater is attacking Demint? You haven’t provided any support for this assertion.

  • saintgeorgegentile

    Erick, you write: “Eager claims that Jim DeMint and Mike Lee are both affiliated with some energy company I?ve never heard of…”

    I’ve read over Eager’s rant a couple of times and only find mentions of EnergySolutions. What energy company are you speaking of?

  • http://www.hakubi.us/ Neil Stevens
  • http://candacesalima.blogspot.com candacesalima

    I am so sick of this crap that Bridgewater, Cherilyn Eager and Bob Lonsberry are peddling in desperate hope it win Bridgewater the primary. Hundreds, if not thousands, of volunteers across the state are fighting hard to counteract the lies upon lies upon lies. I simply cannot wait for Tuesday and for Mike Lee to emerge as the clear winner.

    So thank you, Erick, for telling it like it is! You’re awesome.

  • bs61

    I read an article where they referenced that he eats alone at lunch, while the others eat together. He commented that he didn’t go to DC to make friends. During interviews, he has said that the other supposed R’s really don’t like him because he doesn’t vote with them when they are on their spending sprees. He made me so proud!

  • http://www.hakubi.us/ Neil Stevens

    I’m glad Erick dug deeper and showed me my error.

  • wannabeanncoulter

    More troubling, Bridgewater has not and cannot deny that he helped secure U.S. tax dollars for a suspected Mexican drug lord to build housing no one on the planet can identify as actually existing.

    This is absolutely fantastic stuff! What kind of tax dollars were involved — grant money? rebates? Fannie/Freddie mortgages? I’d really like to know. Exactly how did Bridgewater “facilitate” the arrangement? Other people had to have been involved. Were bribes involved or sleazy quid pro quo deals? Is the “housing” supposed to be in the US (the Southwest maybe?) or in Mexico? There’s gotta be an address (even a bogus one) on some document somewhere.

    Yikes, there’s gotta be one heckuva paper trail on this, even if a lot of aliases were used.

    Any links or sources you could direct me to? Thanks.

  • rdelbov

    the details on the Bridgewater payouts will be made clear this next Thursday=two days after the election.

    Funny its only the Mike Lee Campaign and Redstate that has bought this story. Not single media outlet in Utah has picked up this story. No one. Did Mike Lee lose his email account and press secretary?

    Goodness all the netroot outlets are asleep on this one too?

    This reminds of Chris Christie’s Mob connection. His Sisterlaw’s husband’s sister was married to a Mob figure. So his wife’s sister married a man who had a sister who married a mobster. Christie has Mob connections.

    So probably Bridgewater owns part of a company that is connected with a business that owns apartments in Mexico. Drug Lords rent one of the rooms.
    So Bridgewater deals with Drug lords.

    Silly

  • saintgeorgegentile

    instead of your condescending post would be nice.

  • webmonkeyutah

    Erik Erikson is ignoring facts to try and get Mike Lee elected. EnergySolutions is a Utah based company that has donated thousands to Jim DeMint and Mike Lee. They are trying to keep Congress from preventing importation of foreign nuclear waste. We live in a country that hasn’t been allowed to building a nuclear plant for over 30 years, yet Mike Lee and Jim Demint want to allow foreign waste into our country. Let those countries take care of their own waste.

    EnergySolutions has also taken millions in stimulus money and government contracts.

    Read more at http://whoismikelee.wordpress.com/2010/06/16/jim-demint-and-mike-lee-conservative-brothers-or-energysolutions-stooges/

  • Michael Dugas

    In his post it reads as follows, “Here is one of the emails circulating straight from the Bridgewater campaign. (PDF)”. Read it, note the Bridgewater email address. Basically they are using a hot button issue in Utah, storage of nuclear waste, and manipulating it to make Lee look bad and DeMint look bad for interfering in Utah politics and endorsing a guy who wants to irradiate Utah.
    Typical political spin.
    Both DeMint and Lee need to get the truth about this and Bridgewater
    out to everyone all over Utah.
    Personally all I need to know is that Bennett endorsed Bridgewater.
    I would not even begin to consider voting for a politician who was endorsed by the guy we fought so hard to get rid of. All we need is to elect some guy who is going to be in debt to and in bed with the guy we kicked out! What sense does that make? None!
    Bridgewater will owe Bennett for his endorsement and what ever else Bennett gave him. Bennett will use that to suit his own personal needs and thus we will have achieved nothing and left ourselves where we started, with an establishment controlled politician and the people without honest representation.

  • webmonkeyutah

    Maybe you should spend some time investigating a Fed Agency called OPIC. Then go to YouTube and search for Reagan and OPIC. You will plainly see that OPIC is a government agency that uses US companies as a way to create businesses in foreign countries. The purpose of OPIC is to give loans to US companies since they are unable to get loans from banks to invest in foreign countries. It is a foreign policy initiative. The thought process is that a country that has US companies established there won’t be our enemy.

    Tim Bridgewater helped start a company that was a consulting agency to help US companies secure these OPIC loans. That Mexican drug lord claim is false, but the building of houses in lower income areas of Mexico was funded by OPIC loans, a department Reagan praised as doing good in the world. Seriously, Erik is so desperate to get Mike Lee elected that he is ignoring facts. How does he expect to be a voice of conservatives if he can’t get facts right? At least Beck, Limbaugh, and Hannity get their facts right.

  • Michael Dugas

    because the donated $6k to him over a 3 year period? Really? If there’s a corrupt relationship there than Mike Lee’s an idiot. What the heck is 6 grand….nothing.
    You obviously carry a bias to Lee or DeMint. DeMint’s donations too Lee’s campaign come from DeMints Conservative PAC which gets donations from supporting conservatives all over the country but you call this donated money “spoils” as if it’s somehow stolen or dirty.
    I send money to DeMint’s Senate Conservatives Fund, you calling my donations dirty money or “spoils” as you like to say?
    Why, after finally getting rid of Bennett would you want to elect a guy who will be in debt to the guy that just lost his job…. you must want Bennett Part Deux.

  • Michael Dugas

    I just donated $50.00 ………don’t worry I “laundered” it well.

  • http://xmmlbchat.blogspot.com katesmith

    Things might work out. Were they the largest recipients of BP cash for decades? They have committed no crime, such as openly refusing to protect our border while simultaneously closing the borders of multiple counties in Arizona to Americans. Just an example.

  • jstanard

    In this election I have taken the time in get to know both candidates, and research there backgrounds. Initially I fell for Tim Bridgewater’s trailer park hero story. I’m a business owner also in utah, but my business produces and gives back to the people, it does not take from the people to exist. I do not consider Tim’s version the American dream, or what makes free market and capitalism run in America. His business practices do not align with what he preaches.

    Look up there public records on their business dealing and finances, and their lobbying record if you want the real facts. That is what I have done, and Mike Lee is definitely what he says, and who we want! don’t let Tim pull the wool over your eyes. Mike Lee is the only candidate who is not doing this for his own selfish reasons, and the only true conservative.

  • http://www.hakubi.us/ Neil Stevens
  • mattmillburn

    The energy company that Erick had never heard of is Energy Solutions. He hasn’t heard of it because he doesn’t know anything about Utah and doesn’t do any research when he writes his articles. He says tha it is crazy that Demint and Lee would be connected to Energy Solutions despite the fact that Energy Solutions has donated to both and Lee has sued the state of Utah to force Utah to take foreign nuclear waste. I’m all for nuclear energy but Utah rejected the idea of taking nuclear waste from other countries, but Mike Lee sues over this decision.

  • mattmillburn

    Not surprised that Erick Erickson has wrote another article about Bridgewater filled with errors. He says, “Here’s the truth Jim DeMint has never attacked Bridgewater.” Is it not considered an attack when DeMint’s group calls Bridgewater Bennett-lite and calls him the establishment candidate. Seems like an attack to me. I for one would rather vote for Bridgewater than Mike Lee who is Ron Paul-lite. Like Ron Paul he doesn’t understand the importance of the fight in Afghanistan, Mike Lee says that there are more thugs in Utah county than in Afghanistan. Bridgewater is a strong conservative and understands the importance of victory in Afghanistan.

  • mattmillburn

    Mike Lee also tried to get Bennett’s endorsement, if he would have succeeded you would vote for Bridgewater?

  • utah_cares

    The truth is Jim DeMint sent out flyers to voters using the “temple” mailer, which was not done by Bridgewater, as an excuse to fundraise and bash Bridgewater.

    Time to get Freedomworks and Jim DeMint to say they were wrong? Pretty lame for them going after Bridgewater with this for the purpose to fundraise for Mike Lee.

    http://www.sltrib.com/news/ci_15297267

    Tim Stewart, who spent seven years as a legislative aide for Bennett and now is a lobbyist and founder of the group Saddle PAC, coordinated the mailer with a pair of D.C.-area consulting firms, according to e-mails and invoices provided to The Salt Lake Tribune.

    http://www.sltrib.com/D=g/ci_15035047

    Phone calls went out to rural delegates who, if they identified themselves as Bridgewater supporters, were asked if they knew he was a lobbyist who worked to get federal stimulus money for businesses, Bridgewater?s campaign said.

    Saddle PAC, a political action committee, was behind those calls, though its director Tim Stewart, a former Bennett staffer, says the effort wasn?t a push-poll or an attack, but an effort to raise Bennett?s profile on public lands and energy issues.

    —
    Saddle PAC was going after both Lee and Bridgewater prior to convention. Pretty Low to try to smear Bridgewater with that and even lower to try to fundraise with the smear.
    –

    A few years ago, one of Tim?s partners got some funding to a respected son of a former Arizona Governor, who used the funding to help create some housing in Mexico, which was assumed by some to be an attempt to decrease influx of homeless in to the US, and the individual involved in Mexico was rumored 13 years ago to be involved with drugs, though no record of any more recent rumors have been found.

    I don?t know anyone would take the above facts and try to twist it into being a reason to vote for Mike Lee.

  • utah_cares

    Tim Bridgewater

    I have watched Tim for over a year, and I believe he is the best US Senate candidate in the primary. Tim’s attitude and methods and his actions have impressed me. Words alone are not enough.

    I was surprised and appalled at two “comparison” flyers printed since the convention by the Lee camp. (Has their name on it any everything) Not only were the ads of questionable accuracy, they totally contradict what Lee has been saying he would do and say during his campaign.

    Lee also seems to be very quiet lately on the recent attack radio ads by Common Sense Issues, who went after Mitt Romney in favor of Huckabee with push polling, Where is his outrage over the deceptive ads Freedomworks and Jim DeMint are running, or are they getting their message from Lee’s camp?

    That those that are endorsing Lee are trying to smear Bridgewater with and use for fundraising for Lee, the “temple” flyer is pretty low.

    The group that went after Lee prior to convention also went after Bridgewater with “polling” as well.

    The fact that Cherilyn Eagar endorsed Tim Bridgewater, and Bob Bennett endorsed Bridgewater, in my mind, has more to do with how the Bridgewater campaign treated those two campaigns with greater respect than Eagar and Bennett agreeing with Bridgewater on issues.

    Bridgewater has my vote.

  • Adjoran

    The donations “from” the company were actually from people employed by the company. There is a difference – especially when dealing with the small totals involved, which would scarcely make waves.

    I leaned toward Lee before, not caring so much about the race because I don’t know much about either candidate, but if Bridgewater wants to make it a bigger fight by attacking DeMint, then he and I just cannot be on the same side. I don’t endorse everyone DeMint endorses by a long shot, but those who would besmirch this man’s reputation are low-life lying dogs.

  • Michael Dugas

    n/t

  • Michael Dugas

    Get out a here,…really? So does that mean Bridgewater has only “virtual” support?
    Pretty pathetic when you have to resort to signing in under multiple accounts to try and show support for your candidates.

  • utahjoe

    Thank you for weighing in with the same formulaic endorsement as before the convention, when Cherilyn Eagar was the only choice.

  • jimmyg

    http://www.deseretnews.com/article/700041500/Poll-shows-Tim-Bridgewater-ahead-of-Mike-Lee-in-tight-US-Senate-race.html?pg=1
    Bridgewater 42%
    Lee 33%
    Undecided 25%
    This seems to be the only poll I have seen.

  • utah_1

    Fred Cox, you wouldn’t know the truth if it came up and bit you in the rear. You were a former staffer of Cherilyn Eagar. You are the IP address behind her posts. You are now a Bridgewater volunteer. Most people are looking forward to Wednesday so they just don’t have to listen to you anymore.

  • http://www.hakubi.us/ Neil Stevens

    I’m just making a guess.

  • GuyInSD

    http://www.sltrib.com/ci_15277469

    “Bennett, in making the endorsement formal Friday, said that an unnamed surrogate for Mike Lee did reach out seeking Bennett’s support…”

  • earlgrey

    The only poll I have heard about is the Desert News Poll courtesy of jimmyg. It shows Bridgewater pretty far ahead of Mike Lee 42% vs. 33%.

  • http://www.hakubi.us/ Neil Stevens

    I’ll look into it though.

  • utah_cares

    Demint has a good reputation as a senator.

    Why he would have got involved using a flyer that Bridgewater didn’t send out to fundraise for Mike Lee is beyond reason

    For two online versons of what DeMint caused:

    http://smartgirlpolitics.ning.com/profiles/blogs/breaking-news-on-utah-senate

    http://archive.constantcontact.com/fs096/1102115604578/archive/1103454066628.html

    –

    Time to get Freedomworks and Jim DeMint to say they were wrong? Pretty lame for them going after Bridgewater with this for the purpose to fundraise for Mike Lee.

    http://www.sltrib.com/news/ci_15297267

    Tim Stewart, who spent seven years as a legislative aide for Bennett and now is a lobbyist and founder of the group Saddle PAC, coordinated the mailer with a pair of D.C.-area consulting firms, according to e-mails and invoices provided to The Salt Lake Tribune.

    http://www.sltrib.com/D=g/ci_15035047

    Phone calls went out to rural delegates who, if they identified themselves as Bridgewater supporters, were asked if they knew he was a lobbyist who worked to get federal stimulus money for businesses, Bridgewater?s campaign said.

    Saddle PAC, a political action committee, was behind those calls, though its director Tim Stewart, a former Bennett staffer, says the effort wasn?t a push-poll or an attack, but an effort to raise Bennett?s profile on public lands and energy issues.

    —
    Saddle PAC was going after both Lee and Bridgewater prior to convention. Pretty Low to try to smear Bridgewater with that and even lower to try to fundraise with the smear.

  • utah_cares

    Demint has a good reputation as a senator.

    Why he would have got involved using a flyer that Bridgewater didn’t send out to fundraise for Mike Lee is beyond reason

    For two online versons of what DeMint caused:

    http://smartgirlpolitics.ning.com/profiles/blogs/breaking-news-on-utah-senate

    http://archive.constantcontact.com/fs096/1102115604578/archive/1103454066628.html

  • utah_cares

    The post:
    http://www.redstate.com/cherilyneagar/2010/06/17/mike-lee-%e2%80%93-playing-utah-or-being-played/

    was not posted by me, and the IP address for that post would not match mine.

  • StandardCandle

    What Mike Lee said was he would accept Bob Bennet’s endorsement if it was given to him… he didn’t actively seek it.

  • StandardCandle

    What Mike Lee said was he would accept Bob Bennet’s endorsement if it was given to him… he didn’t actively seek it.

  • http://www.hakubi.us/ Neil Stevens

    Funny how you specify one diary, and nothing about comments.

  • StandardCandle

    and by “they” I mean Brigewater’s new best friend Timmay Stewart…

    and I swear the only thing that hasn’t been done to Lee is someone coming out and stating they had an affair with him… but don’t put that past Timmay Stewart or any number of Bennet/Bridgewater fans…

    And EVEN if people still believe Bridgewater’s campaign had nothing to with the flyer… doesn’t it say a lot when a political consultant that’s all for earmarks, is sending money to the guy that made money by obtaining earmarks, and is endorsed by the former Senator king of earmarks?

    I’m trying to understand how the hell tea party people can support a suit that talks like the devil… which is both sides out of his mouth.

  • http://www.plumbbobblog.com Plumb_Bob

    mattmillburn wrote:

    “Lee has sued the state of Utah…”

    You need to learn a little about America’s legal system before you make such absurd statements.

    An attorney is required by OATH, the oath he took when he became a member of the bar, to represent the wishes of his or her client. When a lawsuit is filed, the attorney filing is simply an agent of the plaintiff, and HAS NO CHOICE whether or not to file the suit, so long as he’s retained by the client. The lawsuit says absolutely nothing about what the attorney believes personally. He is required, again by his oath as an attorney, to represent his client’s interests using the most persuasive arguments possible.

    If he then leaves the service of his client and gets hired by a client on the opposite side of the same issue, he is then required — by his oath as a member of the bar — to argue forcefully for THAT client, even if his arguments are the polar opposite of the arguments he used just the previous day while working for the first client.

    This is called the principle of advocacy, and is part of the daily operation of the legal system in the US.

    If you’ve read the letter circulated by the Bridgewater team, you’ve already been told that Lee is a terrible human being because he argued one thing in court one time, and the opposite another. That’s actually NORMAL and EXPECTED of attorneys at law. Attorneys do this every day — they’re REQUIRED to do it because of the oath they’ve taken. The person who wrote that letter knew this perfectly well — but took it for granted that you, the reader, would not, and would find it objectionable.

    It’s like those political speeches that declared “this candidate has been seen masticating in public!” and “his sister is a known thespian in New York!”, in which the speech writer figures the audience won’t know that “masticate” means “to chew food,” and is not the same as “masturbate,” and that a “thespian” is an actor, which is not the same as a “lesbian.”

    And here you are, mattmillburn, regurgitating this disingenuous bilge that was written specifically to take advantage of your ignorance.

    Please, you should get an education about the topic you’re discussing before you post on national web sites expressing your opinion.

  • StandardCandle

    Did you not read the post by Erick where he explained perfectly how “doing good in the world…” to Tim Bridewater means handling monies and establishing loans and funneling to people that ARE SUSPECTED DRUG LORDS that are on the blocked list of people NOT allowed into the U.S. Futhermore, the same money was SUPPOSED to go to building low income developements… WHICH WERE NEVER BUILT…

    Facts are indeed stubborn things.

  • StandardCandle

    Cherilyn Eagar is a Ronulon… and didn’t make the cut.

    Did Mike Lee say he doesn’t support the Iraq and Afghanistan wars, and belives all of our troops should come home? Cause I don’t recall him ever campaigning on this… maybe you could point me in the direction of this narrative that never happened.

  • mattmillburn

    You act as if attorney’s have no choices in what cases they take and who they represent. My sole point in bringing this up is that Erick Erickson is clearly wrong when he says that there is no connection between Jim DeMint, Mike Lee, and Energy Solutions. Maybe Erickson should educate himself on issues before he writes his opinion on a national website.

  • StandardCandle

    sent money to Bridgewater’s campaign… Timmay Stewart, director of Saddle PAC also sent money to Bridgewater’s campaign…

    need a reson to understand why Timmay Stewart did the robo calls about Bridewater? for plausible deniability… it’s call push polling… only the push polling was done in areas that were ALREADY solidly Bridewater delegates/primary supporters… It was done in a very small effort…

    Remove the scales from your eyes moron… or admit you’ve sold your soul to this clown.

  • gekster
  • StandardCandle

    that Bridewater sent the funds back to Timmay Stewart… You know for cover…

    I’m also fully aware that Tim Bridewater’s campaign spokesperson said to the effect that the Bridgewater campaign benefitted “miraculously” by the temply flyer… they don’t condone such actions…

    So clearly there’s some acknowledgement of back scratching there…

  • Richard Mullins

    That’s what’s been happening lately. First, we hve arc_utah/utah_cares and later on his compadres show up. I think it’s time to do damage to the guy that brought the tribbles in the first place, arc_utah/utah_cares. BTW, Trouble with Tribbles was funny the second time around by that I mean the Re-do of the episode on DS9.

  • mattmillburn

    If he said that he wouldn’t be Ron Paul-lite, he’d be Ron Paul. Mike Lee said he heard that there are 100 or less “thugs” in Afghanistan. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pxanyVBulm8 Somebody that would make such an attempt to minimize the threat from Afghanistan clearly doesn’t understand the magnitude of the threat coming from Afghanistan. Somebody that makes such a statement would be likely to seek to withdraw from Afghanistan. Why would we risk the lives of American soldiers to fight 100 people when we could just leave Afghanistan and declare victory? I do not want my senator advocating a premature withdrawal from Afghanistan. Mike Lee isn’t going to straightly advocate withdrawal before the election because it wouldn’t be popular with the people of Utah, but there are easy clues about how he really feels.

  • gekster

    2nd nt

  • leehazel

    All these goins on in the home of the LDS. One can only wonder what the world id coming to.
    Ouch I bit my tongue-in-cheek.

  • Michael Dugas

    nt

  • Michael Dugas

    This string, http://www.redstate.com/utah_cares/2010/06/03/mike-lee-does-not-take-his-own-advice/, here had me believing that
    there was a common “thing” going on between Utah_Cares, webmonkeyutah and aaroninutah.
    Particularly between Utah_Cares and webmonkeyutah.
    Could just be a optical contusion if you know what I mean.