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A Reader Email on the NRA

By: Erick Erickson (Diary)  |  July 1st, 2010 at 10:10 PM  | 

RESIZE: AAA

From the mail bag:

After reading your post, I wasted 30 minutes waiting on hold to talk to a human at NRA. I finally got a guy – I think he said his name was “Tag” – who was in full defense mode on all the good stuff Harry Reid had done, all his votes, how they gave him a B Grade, how he wrote an amicus brief for the Heller & Chicago SCOTUS cases. When I told them that there is a list on Redstate.com of all the anti-2nd Amendment votes by Harry, he said “Redstate, yeah, right.” This guy was combative and rehearsed in his defense of Harry Reid. I asked him how they can support a guy who voted against the SCOTUS nominees (Roberts, Alito) who were 2nd Amendment advocates, but vote for Sotomayor. “Tag” said that most judicial nominations are done on party line votes, and they don’t hold those votes against Harry Reid!! I said that those in the military community, where many NRA members serve their country, are still bothered by “the war is lost” comment on Iraq. “Tag” laughed at me, and said, “Oh, comeon!”.

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  • http://www.800cart.com Ron Robinson

    Then I’m going to end it by asking for my money back on my life membership.

  • IJB

    This E-mail is hearsay, but if we start hearing more reports of stuff like this, I think the NRA is *finished* as a so-called “non-partisan” organization.

  • dmartin

    I just emailed them, if they endorse Reid, i’m done with them, for good.

  • http://UnitedConservativesofVirginia Cargosquid

    But if we don’t get the Senate in 2012, Chuckie Schumer or Dick Durbin is going to be Majority leader.

  • Duke

    Nancy Pelosi?

    We’ve seen a number of people comment on here who’ve claimed to have spoken with the NRA office on the phone. Anyone heard of “Tag?”

    Sorry Erick. I hate to differ with you, but I think you’re out there on this one.

  • http://www.dirkworld.com dirkbelig

    I sensed they were paper tigers succumbing to the same rot that claimed the Stupid Party, but they’re really taking the Lindsey Graham cake, aren’t they?

  • Tbone

    every Republican just quit the NRA and put up a thread where all the quitters can post once and for all their individual, sactimonius exit speechs and then have a vote to award whose was the most inane? LOL

  • http://www.hakubi.us/ Neil Stevens

    I see you’ve completely given up on making actual arguments for the NRA at this point.

  • http://www.veronicaestrada.com/ Veronica

    what a borderline defense!

    Practically everything on the internet is hearsay, lJB.

    Haven’t you been keeping up on the NRA via Red State?

    Something’s rotten in the state of Denmark.

  • http://www.veronicaestrada.com/ Veronica

    I hear that “carve out” worked for other groups after all.

    So.. you like corruption. …

    Huh.

  • http://www.veronicaestrada.com/ Veronica

    .. if these wannabe jackasses (I mean.. really.) got a little courage when their membership numbers skyrocketed with the inauguration of Il Duce.

    And when the price of ammo when through the roof.

    Could they do no wrong? And so they crawl in bed with the left?

    Disgusting.

    NRA leadership isn’t led by real men.

    I feel about as betrayed as when AEI gave Patreaus, “Mr. Obama-Kindred Spirit” the 2010 Irving Kristol Award.

  • Tbone

    The NRA has 4 million* members and are very successful across a variety of demographics and geographics.

    * Less the rapidly increasing several Redstaters who have now quit with impressive displays of indignation,all sporting strikingly similar tiny checherboard patterss on their behinds having been less than careful during their exits from the organization.

  • http://www.hakubi.us/ Neil Stevens

    How many are active vs. life members who can’t quit even if they want to?

  • Tbone

    with you.

  • http://www.veronicaestrada.com/ Veronica

    and you prove my point.

    these trophy women are ineffective in shaping the leadership and directing “their men” like real women — and need to be ousted with the eunichs in charge.

  • Tbone

    and are really upset, I guess they can. It takes a little more commitment than tissy fitting on Redstate. ;-)

  • Tbone

    refer to them are very accomplished professionallly and proved their worth to the Association and earned the right and honor to become presidents.

    What have you done that demeans them by comparison? It is you who appears petty.

  • http://www.veronicaestrada.com/ Veronica

    is being whored away, faithful servant, and they are letting it happen.

    We should be hearing vocal opposition from them if this weren’t the case.

    Women on the Board isn’t the point.

    The point is their lack of influence in directing this trainwreck.

    Good night, Sirloin.

  • http://www.veronicaestrada.com/ Veronica

    “every Republican just quit the NRA and put up a thread where all the quitters can post once and for all their individual, sactimonius exit speechs and then have a vote to award whose was the most inane?”

    What have you done, TBone, besides put down the members of the NRA who are demanding the NRA NOT consort with the enemy?

    Guys like you are the problem.

    Schmooze with leadership, crap on the underling who pays dues like the stupid taxpayers they are.

    Like I said — didn’t know you liked corruption.

    Good night.

  • spainishirish

    Save it for stupid folks, Erick.

  • spainishirish

    Save it for stupid folks, Erick.

  • spainishirish

    probably will switch membership based on this site.

  • spainishirish

    probably will switch membership based on this site.

  • merryj1

    Someone actually wants to try to tie George Bush to the issue of NRA collaborating with an assault on the First Amendment for most if not all of the rest of us, in exchange for a carve-out for their own sorry behind(s)? Come on!

    I think every serious and sincere NRA member should help save the organization from itself with enough membership cancellations to drop their roster under the cut-off point of one million members: IF this First Amendment gag order goes through, it will be a very short time before some serious restrictions will be applied to the “carve-out” exemptions, leaving unions and Soros-linked deals intact but all others neutered and muted.

    Has no one figured out just how clever, deceptive, and untrustworthy this regime actually is?

  • redware

    If you really believe that only a few “redstaters” will leave the NRA if they endorse Harry Reid,then your deductive reasoning is surely as poor as your spelling.The cave-in for the carve-out is reason enough,further demonstrations of leftward leanings will result in a mass emigration!

  • klondike

    For at least a decade, conservatives have stopped sending donations to the RNC. In fact, many solicitations for donations have been returned with comments such as, “Not one more dime until you start supporting conservatives.” That effort has clearly had no impact. That leads me to conclude that similar protestations will have no impact on the NRA. The NRA seems to have gone the way of AARP.

    My impression is that the NRA has been corrupted by the political process. If that is the case, perhaps our support should go to the GOA – representative of what the NRA used to be.

  • Viator

    Take all of your NRA return mail envelopes, put a nasty note in them about Harry Reid. Don’t put in any money. Mail them back.

  • WarEagle01

    My hunting friends were telling me I should, but with this development: never. I’ll go with Gun Owners of America: http://gunowners.org/

  • jmimac351

    (800) 392-VOTE (8683),

    Give them a ring and talk to them and find our for yourself. I called the other day about Kagan.

    There’s no doubt in my mind the NRA has gone soft.

  • jmimac351

    so she’s got that going for her too.

    Keep trying, the NRA is being found out now.

  • jmimac351

    who don’t pay close attention to what the organization is actually doing. They see things come in the mail here and there and it all looks good. What happens in the halls of Washington appears to be another story…

  • earlgrey

    How effective would an NRA endorsement be for Reid?

    I recall a lot of people withdrawing membership with AARP after healtcare debacle. Anyone expect the same with NRA?

    I feel so out of touch with what is going on in the country that sometimes I feel like I am looking into one of those litttle glass globes. Only there is no snow to shake up in this globe because of global warming

  • Castor

    The person who answered said that they won?t endorse Reid.
    I followed up my call with an e-mail to the NRA institute for legislative action giving them two cheers for opposing Kagan, but warning them that there are eleven friends and family who will drop their membership if they endorse dingy Dingy Harry Reid who waltzes people like Kagan through their confirmation processes. Also I insisted on an endorsement of Sharron Angle. There must be thousands of calls and e-mails just like mine.

  • Tbone

    Prey foe me.

  • Tbone

    LOL. Give it a rest.

  • Read Chesterton

    Wayne LaPierre in a panic?

    If you had an argument, you’d make it.

    Throwing the NRA overboard to make an example of them would be good for the cause. They are every bit as dispensable as an estranged moderate republican legislator, and more easily replaced.

    These are desperate times, so, (sort of) desperate measures, and all that.

  • Read Chesterton

    but it will save $35 per year for me.

  • merryj1

    I was trying to make two different points, and for the sake of sarcasm missed them both.

  • merryj1

    Watch what they do, not what they say.

  • Tbone
  • takemccain2

    is also a high ranking officer in the USAF. He has been pro-active his entire adult life about 2nd Amendment rights, defense of those rights and steadfast in his support of the NRA. When I told him about this over the phone I could almost hear his jaw drop. He couldn’t believe it and said he was going to contact the NRA and ask them if they were really going to endorse the leader of a party that has worked overtime to weaken or outright kill the 2nd Amendment. He was shocked, he was angry. He said if this is true then he is reconsidering his support of the NRA and will tell others in the ranks about this travesty.
    This is unreal.
    Why would the NRA do this unless they have truly sold out? I guess they have forgotten who are their friends and who are their enemies.

  • wiseterri2

    The first time I just left a message on their automated message center. I then hung up and called right back and was on hold for seveal minutes while waiting to talk to a “real” person. A young woman took my call (don’t recall the name). Toi be honest, I didn’t give her much chance to talk. I informed her that I had been an NRA member for 35 years. I told her that I applauded their position on Kagan and was very upset about the Disclose mess. I then reiterated that I am 47 years old and had been a member since I was 12 and that if they supported or endorsed Harry Reid, I would be cancelling my membership immediately. She told me that she would “make my position known”. There was no defense, explanation or anything from her. Granted I can be a little um “forceful” when angry, but I’m guessing that they are gettting a lot of calls.