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Republican Statists Reveal Themselves

By: Erick Erickson (Diary)  |  July 9th, 2010 at 04:30 PM  | 

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Hogan mentioned Bob Bennett’s comments earlier. Bennett thought it beneath him and outside conservatism to think the constitution may limit him, a senator, from legislating.

Well, over in South Carolina, Daniel Foster points out another example, defeated Republican Bob Inglis.

Inglis, defeated in a Republican primary by tea party activists, has shared what he really thinks of conservatives — they are racist, bigotted, and easily led by villains like Sarah Palin and Glenn Beck.

The soon to be former congressman loathes the term “death panel” and thinks people who criticize Barack Obama are racists, just like those tea party activists who, on the day they were throwing Bob Inglis out of office, were putting in office an Indian lady and a black guy down in Charleston.

I guess they are blind racists. Somebody ask Bob Inglis to confirm.

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  • acat

    Ladies and gentlemen, fire for effect.

    Mew

  • Vegas_Rick

    democrtas usually come to mind. But chumps like Bennett and Inglis and our favorite squish, Linsday Graham, are so far out in left field, clueless doesn’t begin to describe their reality.

  • chihank

    Back in 1992, Inglis campaigned as a anti-pork, pro-term limit reformer. In 1998, Inglis lost a Senate race against Hollis. Since being out of DC for 6 years, Inglis longed for the perks Congress. When DeMint ran for the Senate, opening up the SC-04, Inglis ran for the House seat. Inglis said he was wrong about supporting term limits. He said term limits hurt rural development. Yet people voted him back into Congress in 2004. Inglis is an example of how Congress harms good people.

  • dlerley

    All these “R”s (Crist, Bennett, Ingliss) have turned out to be worthy of the defenestration they have received. When in doubt, throw em out. How many more of them are out there? In the words of my father, “Never hesitate to fire when a suitable target presents itself”.

  • acat

    Would hardly be the first time someone saw conservative ideology as a good campaign platform…

    Mew

  • rdelbov

    somewhere he did–He was a terms limit guy with war on deficit stuff from the 1990′s. He is lifetime 93.5 ACU–if we had 435 congressman like that where would we be?

    He basically lost this seat for two reasons.

    1. He voted to censure Joe Wilson–totally off on that. What was he thinking as Joe Wilson is a South Carolina seatmate and certainly did not deserve any official action against him.

    2. he fussed at Glen Beck or complained about Glen Beck. I don’t listen to Beck much–too much talk for me or too about about Glen Beck for me. I much prefer Rush or Sean H. if I do talk radio (for those who are interested I prefer the country music of the 1930′s to 1960′s when country music was country). Beck has a microphone and apparently has lots of fans in SC.

    Inglis had a tin ear and it a good example that even voting conservative (93.5 ACU) is not good enough if you don’t want the talk. Ironically he got another six years in except this time his term limits was imposed on him.

  • earlgrey

    What are his plans for after Congress? Joining the Dem party?

  • http://thesandsinstitute.org Vassar Bushmills

    It’s gonna get ugly. Strap ‘em on.

  • conservativecrusade

    and I will argue that for as long as needed.

    He was nothing more that a guy who wanted to get into power, was running in a conservative district ( back then Greenville was extreme conservative) and knew what people wanted to hear.

    One of his first broken promises was he would impose on himself a term limit of 2 terms. That was a big deal back then but it was funny how quick he backtracked and how he explained his backtracking.

    He played conservatives, played a conservative, but was always a moderate to liberal republican liar who acted well. But he was never like Jim DeMint. SC is very proud of that man.

  • conservativecrusade

    Used the wrong reply button again. My apologies acat!

  • conservativecrusade

    you are the expert on the politics of all the states, counties, and towns across America, but you are way off base on this one.

    Inglis never had a way except a crooked one. He was voted out for a ton of reasons. But your number 2 takes the cake. You may feel we are all idiot rednecks who do what the TV guys tell us to do, but you would be wrong.

    Inglis was voted out because he was not a conservative in any way shape or form. He lost his allure a long time ago, and after people got organized, he was removed. He broke the trust of this state, broke his word, and he was fired. Not because a Beck or the Wilson issue, but because the state and its conservatives got tired of his BS.

    Stick to your own town politics as it is obvious you do not know SC or Greenville politics!

  • deano64

    ACU scores. They can easily be skewed. Inglis voted yes on Cash for Clunkers and when it came time to vote to block spending the remaining $350B TARP bailout fund Inglis decided it would be best to spend it instead.

  • remnant60

    I’m still hoping that won’t be necessary, but the speed of change just keeps getting faster. Old, familiar trails are being washed out and some were the only way between the river and the cliff…as Acat says, at least they “light themselves up”
    There’s gonna be a whole lotta dis-mantling and re-building hafta go on if we ever clear out this den of snakes.
    But one problem at a time. (well maybe 2 or 3- but most folks can’t multi-task as much as they believe they can-I’m only good for 1)

  • rdelbov

    Southland then you do. I still open door for ladies and make it a point to be polite whenever I converse-be it on the phone in person or on the internet. I came up in politics in the 1970′s watching Bill Buckley on TV and being a Ronald Reagan fan. I note you seem to be a Reagan fan-perhaps you recall when Reagan & Buckley disagreed on the Panama Canal treaty. They disagreed without being unpleasant. Bill Buckley enjoyed a good discussion on his TV show and did not disparage people who disagreed with him. I guess that era where Reagan and Buckley could engage in a discussion and disagree without name calling is nearly past.

    As to Inglis being a conservative Jim DeMint , Strom Thurmond- Carrol Campbell have supported Inglis at various points in his poltical career. I have his voting records at my finger tips and would welcome any discussion with you on any specific votes. In 12 years he has been a pretty standard GOP conservative. 93.5 ACU is actually in the top 85% percentile for GOP house members. So what exactly makes him a non conservative? He votes with Paul Ryan and Pence 98% of the time? Does that 2% make him a hardened liberal? I followed the news reports on this election and there are very few votes that spell him out as liberal.

    I don’t live in SC but have followed politics since 1974 or so. I can discuss the politics of the 4th district in as much detail as you would like. I can you that Inglis has always been a favorite of “social conservatives” and is 100% pro life per NRLC. I go back to my earlier comment that if we had 435 congressmen like Inglis we would be in a much different country

  • deano64

    much different since we would have 435 porkers who want to spend us into oblivion.

  • rdelbov

    I know that ACU is not perfect. How about 100% pro life NRLC?

    What I was driving at in my post is that Inglis does not have a huge number of votes that pillar him as a liberal–he ain’t no kirk or Castle. I frankly have no idea what he did on TARP but many people out of loyalty to Bush43 voted for that turkey. Inglis is Pro-life-a social conservative–he voted for all the Bush tax cuts-voted against all the Clinton tax increases & budgets. Compare him to John Linder (ACU 95) who is considered a very solid conservative. There’s probably 5 votes over 12 (that they served together) that they disagreed on. Inglis has voted with 90% of the republicans on every bill since he has been there. So my point is what makes him stand out?

    1. There was a huge amount of discussion in the media in SC about his vote against Joe Wilson. Very few republicans voted against Joe. Inglis for whatever reason stood out on this issue and he was not only wrong but unpopular. I know alot of people in the Greenville area and really suburban Memphis is very similar in thinking to Greenville. I have not heard one person say “Joe Wilson was wrong”. Maybe I need new friends but that hurt Inglis.

    2. Earlier this year Inglis also had unkind words about Beck–Again I don’t hear alot of people saying bad things about Beck or Rush. Some may not listen but among my crowd in a “Beck versus Obama” election Glen would win.

    I for one see nothing racist or redneck in supporting Joe Wilson or Glen Beck. I can tell you that’s a recipe for political disaster in a GOP primary in the South.

    I could count the number of GOP congressman in the South (not counting Parker from AL) with very similar records to Inglis. How many have lost primaries in 2010? How many are or were in tough primaries? Inglis voted to censure Joe Wilson and has talked about the teaparty folks & Glen Beck.

    I rest my case.

  • deano64

    for that. Again, in 2009 we had a chance to keep the remaining $350B TARP fund unspent. He thought that wasn’t a good idea and decided it should be spent. He voted yes on Cash for Clunkers in 2009. I never called him a liberal but he certainly isn’t a conservative.

  • conservativecrusade

    I will again say, you are speaking about a subject that your obviously have google knowledge about at best.

    I could care less what the organizations rate him as, we lived with him. He was nothing but a RINO at best, liberal more likely. He spent like money grew on a tree, at least half of what passed his lips was lies, and so on and so on.

    You stated two reasons why he was kicked to the curb and you were dead wrong.

    But since you thought I was not polite enough considering the crap you wrote, try this:

    Please stick to politics you actually know about and quit telling others and us why we kicked Inglis to the unemployment line. OK? Thanks!

    By the way, I voted for the first time long before 1974. I have been very active in politics for much longer than 36 years. My father was and is a well known republican donor. But that does not mean I know all there is to know about politics in every state, county, and town.And neither do you and that is obvious when you gave your two reasons we fired Inglis.

  • conservativecrusade

    still does not mean you are anywhere near right and that you are not speaking out your rear. Getting high ratings from certain organizations does not mean conservative, Bennett is one fine example of that.

  • patriot601

    The RINOs are getting ornery. This was a great quick post and I enjoyed it so much I had to read the Inglis quote out loud as I laughed and still have the smile on my face. He sounds just like the demonrats and morons at MSLSD and Commie News Network.

  • redware

    being nice to good ol Bob.Matter of fact why don’t you just invite him to whatever gentler part of the Southland in which you reside and get him elected to represent you.Then after he sweet talks you into believing he is a principled conservative and doesn’t vote the way he talks you can play nice while he lectures you about being demagogues and racists.I haven’t always been proud of our political systewm here in South Carolina but we sure seem to be doing a good job of it lately.And conservatives here like their politicians to have a set of values,a political philosophy so to speak,that guides their decisions on important issues,We don’t like pseudo-conservatives who get corrupted by Beltway elitists and wheeland deal their principles away.So take Bob,hell take Lindsey too,and tend to the political situation at home while we take care of business our way!

  • acat

    Ingliss does serve one useful purpose – warning to all Conservatives that ya gotta do more than just look for the right words in the press releases.

    Mew

  • acat

    Charging.

    They’re RINOs, after all, so when they start charging they tend to angle to the left… and that’s when we hit ‘em from the right.

    Seriously, *let* ‘em get mad. *Let* those masks slip. The Internet and flip-cams will make sure *everyone* knows how they really feel.

    Mew

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  • rdelbov

    I think its all talk on your part–its fine to dislike Congressman. That’s your choice.

    1. I have hundreds of articles about congressional votes. I have not read one that said “Bob Inglis is out of step with other Southern republicans”. So about showing me some votes where he is has been out of step with his fellow congressman from SC-NC-AL-FL-VA-MS-TN—-

    2. Please show me where congressman from the above states who have voted 98% of the time just like Bob Inglis -are facing stiff primary races in 2010? Did any of the congressman from VA-NC-AL_MS get forced into runoffs? Ralph Hall in Texas did but with him its age.

    I stand by my two points.
    1.Bob Inglis voted 98% of the time with 90% of the GOP congressman. He is solid 100% pro life record and while you can quibble with ACU the fact is he has voted 95% of the time with the GOP party votes. If you matched him with Paul Ryan they voted 95% of the time together. Morever I cannot recall a single congressional vote that went the wrong way because of Bob Inglis.

    2. Bob Inglis lost because he alientated the GOP primary voters over Joe Wilson censure & his remarks aimed at the teaparty & Glen Beck. No other GOP congressman from the South -with nearly identical voting records as Inglis-has faced major primary oppisition. Bob Inglis has a nearly identical voting record with 70 or so other congressman. Only one (not counting Parker) has lost a primary. So why has the other 70 congressman escaped primary contests? No one else voted against Joe Wilson and no one else took on teaparty/Beck

  • conservativecrusade

    he lost over Beck and Wilson if that makes you feel like a political expert. We will just remain with the facts and let you keep a dream.

    By the way, Olympia is not facing a tough battle either, is she a conservative.

    And voting 95% of the time with the spineless republican party is not a good sign of conservatism.

    But all is good. If you need to feel like the political expert of all that is politics in order to feel important, have at it. But in the future, banging a drum at people who know just why they voted a guy out does not build your expert stature in any way shape or form.

    Want to act the expert part, fine. But at least come up with other reasons why we voted out Inglis other than the Beck and Wilson crap which is just ass backwards ludicrous. Friendly hint, Inglis was on his way out and we had enough of him long before the issues you have thrown out. Repeat it as many times as you wish, it will not change a thing. You are dead wrong and no where close to the reasons we grew tired of Inglis, period! I will start you on the right path: The reason Inglis made it through his last election was apathy. Same reason Obama won. This time was different, we were fed up with RINOS, we fired him. Next is other RINOS and just maybe, Graham.

    We in SC could care less about Texas senators or senators from other states. We take care of our own business and let the other states deal with theirs. The other senators you have brought up have nothing to do with Inglis nor does their getting an easy election show that Inglis was fired over Beck and Wilson.

  • http://www.redstate.com/tnjim TNJim

    and “easily led” bad enough when they come from liberals, but when they come from a “Republican” whose own state nominated a black guy and an Indian lady that’s just a little much.

    I’ve heard of sour grapes before but this is beyond the pale. Hope you enjoy your non-career, Inglis.

  • Adjoran

    Which also killed Bennett.

    I see this rant as a bitter guy who lost and has no political future lashing out. But whether or not I am being too charitable is irrelevant, because he’s gone, out, finished, stick a fork in him ’cause he is so done.

    It’s not so much that I object to kicking guys when they are down, I just prefer to hold off until I’ve knocked down all the guys who need knocking down, so I have more choice in who to kick. All in the name of “diversity,” of course . . .

  • http://thesandsinstitute.org Vassar Bushmills

    pick and choose our targets, but in fact they’re coming at us from every direction. Like you, I go for the officers, or the guys with the BAR’s, Your first assessment is right on, we are in new terriroty, at least for a very long time so now we will see if the old American core value, adaptation, is still with us.

  • rdelbov

    and if I could edit my intial comment I would in light of several comments.

    I would now say that Inglis comments on Joe Wilson plus those on the teaparty/Glen Beck influence on the GOP only contributed to his defeat. They may have been crucial but were not the only reasons.

    I do go back to his ratings from ACU-other conservative groups-his 100% National right to life rating and say that he is -in my opinion-a fairly standard GOP conservative. He voted 95% of the time with 95% of the GOP congressman.

    Yet in 2010 that was not enough to save his seat. I do add that 70 or so other GOP congressman who vote very much like Inglis have not had their seats at risk in the South-except for Parker (party switcher) Hall (age) so something got folks riled up against Inglis that is not evident in other districts.

    I can only contribute his defeat to local factors-I have my ideas-others disagree with me. I concede that I was a bit too simplistic in my view of just the two points.

  • rightwingyahoo

    And the smear of Beck marks him as someone who refuses to represent the small gov wing of the party on any issue.

    Cap and Trade is a huge job and economy killer, and Inglis was a useful idiot on that issue.

  • rightwingyahoo

    That should explain it all.

    He took Lewis’ side on the phantom racial epithets that were never uttered.

    That should explain it all. Don’t be deliberately dense.

    We are glad you’re on our side for the most part, but don’t try talking us into becoming McCain lovers.

    We know statists when we see them. Anyone who shills for Bennett, or Inglis, or Graham, doesn’t get it.

  • rdelbov

    Fallin-Herger-Hoekstra-Myrick-Wamp-Boehner-Thornberry-Shadegg-Ryan(WI) all also voted for TARP–as did 40 other GOP congressman.

    Why is Inglis the only one out?

    Several on this list have a great chance to be US senator or Governor but Inglis lost in a GOP primary.

  • AceInTX

    I’m SHOCKED….SHOCKED I TELL YOU!!!!

    I wonder…is he supporting the Republican nominee?

    but who cares…only conservatives are ever expected to tow the party line and do as they’re told…

  • rightwingyahoo

    The moderates always tell us to shut up and be loyal when they win, and when they lose, well, this is what we get, or Crist’s behavior, which is worse, although at least after Nov, we will be rid of him.

  • AceInTX

    Rep. Inglis: GOP Lets Demagogues Set Tone

    Too many Republican leaders are acquiescing to a poisonous “demagoguery” that threatens the party’s long-term credibility, says a veteran GOP House member who was defeated in South Carolina’s primary last month.

    While not naming names, 12-year incumbent Rep. Bob Inglis suggested in interviews with The Associated Press that tea party favorites such as former vice presidential nominee Sarah Palin and right-wing talk show hosts like Glenn Beck are the culprits.

    He cited a claim made famous by Palin that the Democratic health care bill would create “death panels” to decide whether elderly or sick people should get care.

    “There were no death panels in the bill … and to encourage that kind of fear is just the lowest form of political leadership. It’s not leadership. It’s demagoguery,”

    “I think we have a lot of leaders that are following those (television and talk radio) personalities and not leading,” he said. “What it takes to lead is to say, ‘You know, that’s just not right.’”

    “It’s a real concern, because I think what we’re doing is dividing the country into partisan camps that really look a lot like Shia and Sunni,” he said, referring to the two predominant Islamic denominations that have feuded for centuries. “It’s very difficult to come together to find solutions.”

    and then there’s this…he was too far away to hear anything…but he just knows those anti Obamacare protesters were being nasty racists…

    Inglis said he was shocked during the health care votes as he watched protesters jeering Rep. John Lewis, a Georgia Democrat who was beaten as a leading civil rights activist in the 1960s.

    Inglis said he was too far away during the jeering incident to hear whether the protesters shouted racial epithets, as Lewis and other black lawmakers have claimed. But Inglis said the behavior was threatening and abusive.

    “I caught him at the door and said, ‘John, I guess you’ve been here before,’” Inglis said.

    .

  • http://www.examiner.com/x-1597-Charlotte-Law--Politics-Examiner Mike gamecock DeVine

    dems liked him….doesn’t that say it all. He is a trial lawyer liberal even if he is a republican and conservative to a point

  • AceInTX

    I’m the biggest jerk on Red State to hear some people tell it and I’m a cross between Benedict Arnold, the Rosenbergs and Atilla the Hun for always going after people like this yet they attack us as racists, Bigotsand compare us to NAZIs, Shiite Terrorists and Religious Zealots hell bent on imposing a theocracy on America with nimpunity.

    In fact…when they go off on hateful spiels like this…it’s conservatives that are attacked for driving people like Crist and Specter from the party simply because we expect a small measure of loyalty and at least lip service to principle

  • http://www.examiner.com/x-1597-Charlotte-Law--Politics-Examiner Mike gamecock DeVine