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Senate Republicans to Tea Party Activists: Go To H – E – Double Hockeysticks

I told you a while back about a small group of Republican Senators sitting down for drinks at the Capitol Hill Club. They’d been to a tea party rally that day and were openly mocking the tea partiers. One of them, a guy tea partiers adore, seemed to hold them in open contempt at this table.

Well, between the tea partiers and Jim DeMint, these Republican Senators are getting a lot of heartburn and are starting to speak out. One of the good old boys of the club who can speak freely because he’s on the outside lobbying in now is the former leader of the Senate Republicans, Trent Lott.

Former Senate majority leader Trent Lott (R-Miss.), now a D.C. lobbyist, warned that a robust bloc of rabble-rousers spells further Senate dysfunction. “We don’t need a lot of Jim DeMint disciples,” Lott said in an interview. “As soon as they get here, we need to co-opt them.”

But Lott said he’s not expecting a tea-party sweep. “I still have faith in the visceral judgment of the American people,” he said.

Oh, so Lott is rooting against us. So is Bob Bennett. Bennett says the GOP is going to lose Kentucky, Nevada, and Colorado because of the gosh-darn tea party activists.

But don’t worry. After flying back from Colorado where he was out with Orrin Hatch helping Jane Norton raise money, John Cornyn said this:

“The candidates are not ours to choose. . . . They’re the choice of the primary voters in the states, and I think we should respect their choices.”

COMMENTS

  • http://www.suvstrategery.blogspot.com SoFiMil

    November is indeed an important election. Not only to stop the left, but also to take back the Republican party and restore conservative principles.

  • sybilll

    don’ think we need 535 disciples of Jim DeMint, I am done with them.

  • jmimac351

    as far as I’m concerned. Trent Lott doesn’t get to decide the direction of my party just like Obama doesn’t get to decide to steal my country. Each will be dealt with in November.

    We have Obama because of people like Trent Lott.

  • http://www.suvstrategery.blogspot.com SoFiMil

    Just saw the extra-curricular activities going on with another diary. I would not have titled my comments how I did, nor even left a comment at this time if I had read that big dust-up. I’m going to bed.

    Peace out.

  • the_bat

    These guys crack me up. I don’t know what’s worse. The Dumocrats or the Republicrats? I was a State Republican Convention delegate in Iowa this year and, at the convention in Des Moines. While the preponderance of folks there were excited and committed to casting off the unholy Democrat hegemony, you could sense, still, the moderate/liberal Rupublicrat shadows lurking in the background. They’re out there. Circling. Not so much like sharks, but more like jellyfish.

    This year, we could see a major sea change in Washington and all over the various 50 states, fueled by an awakened and enthused electorate no longer content to just set back and let the politicians do their thing. Of course the “Old Gourd” are not going to like that. They’re just as invested in maintaining the status quo as the Obama/Reid/Pelosi troika.

    Fie on them.

    ^o^

  • wannabeanncoulter

    I wonder if that “small group of Republican Senators sitting down for drinks at the Capitol Hill Club” helped to set up Mark Williams of Tea Party Express for his recent nasty fall? I wonder how much “helpful input” Williams received with that “Dear Abe” letter?

  • hickorystick

    different than buying a baseball team. It is there right and privilege (in their mind).

  • sybilll

    I think we are in a stage of a reawakening. And, the Lott/McCain types are not part of the future.

  • Flagstaff

    and THEY will be out.

  • 6eorge Jetson

    …until later we don’t article.

    Yet some Republicans worry that tea-party candidates are settling too comfortably into their roles as unruly insurgents and could prove hard to manage if they get elected.

    Uhhh….Yeah!!! That’s the whole point. We need to take back the country not only from the Democrats but from the establishment Republicans that spent their time in the majority foolishly.

    “If we get another loud voice in there, like Mike Lee from Utah or Sharron Angle from Nevada, there will be a new nucleus” to advocate causes such as term limits, a balanced-budget amendment and “having bills point to where they are enumerated in the Constitution,” Paul said in the interview.

    <Snark> Heavens, no! A genuine nucleus that genuinely believes in limited government. We can’t have that. </Snark>

  • 6eorge Jetson

    …until later we don’t article.

    Yet some Republicans worry that tea-party candidates are settling too comfortably into their roles as unruly insurgents and could prove hard to manage if they get elected.

    Uhhh….Yeah!!! That’s the whole point. We need to take back the country not only from the Democrats but from the establishment Republicans that spent their time in the majority foolishly.

    “If we get another loud voice in there, like Mike Lee from Utah or Sharron Angle from Nevada, there will be a new nucleus” to advocate causes such as term limits, a balanced-budget amendment and “having bills point to where they are enumerated in the Constitution,” Paul said in the interview.

    <Snark> Heavens, no! A genuine nucleus that genuinely believes in limited government. We can’t have that. </Snark>

  • Flagstaff

    “Not so much like sharks, but more like jellyfish.”

  • morostheos

    Erick (or anyone, for that matter)

    Can you link to the previous post about the gathering of a small group of Republican Senators? I did a search but couldn’t find it and I would really like to know who was involved.

  • sybilll

    When Reagan was asking who will save the Republic, commenters were tossing out political names, but, a wise commenter asked “what if the simpler answer is just…. us”?

  • izoneguy

    When you are fighting thugs you cannot play nice. Obama, Pelosi & Reid are thugs and gangsters. Further Senate dysfunction would be caused by electing more Marxists & Socialists.

  • Flagstaff

    than Democrats do, and why a much smaller number of liberals control the much larger number of conservatives in the country. The Repub’s have abdicated themselves from conservative support. Lott is as dumb as he appeared a few years ago. I give Cornyn the credit that he has the good sense to at least not say anything out loud in mixed company that makes him part of the Lott crowd.

    From the linked article:

    Voters who don’t want to privatize Social Security or withdraw from the United Nations could begin to see the tea party and the Republican Party as one and the same.

    These brilliant politicians can’t see their hands in front of their faces. They are every bit the statists that the Dem’s are. Voters wouldn’t even worry about it if the ‘Pub’s could define themselves as something other than “Dem lite.”

    What a bunch of nancys, and I don’t mean Pelosi.

    Yet some Republicans worry that tea-party candidates are settling too comfortably into their roles as unruly insurgents and could prove hard to manage if they get elected.

    Gee, ya think? The last people we want to elect is somebody who is in lockstep with Mitch McConnell, for instance. The ‘Pub Senate leadership can’t even control two hot mamas from Maine or the new kid from Massachusetts. The next thing you know, Scott Brown will be threatening to switch parties, and Mitch will be bribing him to stay. Jumpin’ Jim Jeffords, say hello to Bouncin’ Scott Brown.

    Nor are they helping the Republican Party to resolve its deeper identity problems, he said.

    Now you tell us. You have identity problems???? With twice as many folks self-identifying as conservatives than as liberals? Here’s a hint: You are the party of NO–NO NEW IDEAS, and NO WAY TO RECOGNIZE GOOD ONES. I won’t say “No better than Democrats,” because that isn’t true. The Dem’s have ideas, just not good ones.

    It is time to clean house, folks.

  • aesthete

    Next, you’ll be telling me that they don’t want us telling them what they can do with their money!

  • http://www.moccasincreekminutemen.com VizBiz

    …. Of course Bennett won’t have that opportunity. He he he.

  • http://impudent.edublogs.org/ kyle8

    as well as the Democrats. The Donk’s are easier to defeat because they cannot help but be the extremists that they are. The Rino’s are a lot harder to defeat because they come off as such non-extremists.

    The problem with being a so called moderate now in days is Guess what? WE DON’T HAVE ANY MORE MONEY TO SPEND!!!

    So if you are a moderate who likes big government, then you are an enemy of the American People, and we are going to have to frame the issue in just that way!

  • http://impudent.edublogs.org/ kyle8

    as well as the Democrats. The Donk’s are easier to defeat because they cannot help but be the extremists that they are. The Rino’s are a lot harder to defeat because they come off as such non-extremists.

    The problem with being a so called moderate now in days is Guess what? WE DON’T HAVE ANY MORE MONEY TO SPEND!!!

    So if you are a moderate who likes big government, then you are an enemy of the American People, and we are going to have to frame the issue in just that way!

  • http://impudent.edublogs.org/ kyle8

    anything I can do?

  • http://impudent.edublogs.org/ kyle8

    weird

  • http://impudent.edublogs.org/ kyle8

    weird

  • gekster
  • http://www.examiner.com/x-1597-Charlotte-Law--Politics-Examiner Mike gamecock DeVine
  • http://www.examiner.com/x-1597-Charlotte-Law--Politics-Examiner Mike gamecock DeVine
  • http://impudent.edublogs.org/ kyle8

    Just a little off topic right now, Are you starting to feel it yet? Only six weeks to go before Football season. This is such a boring time of the year! I can’t wait.

  • http://impudent.edublogs.org/ kyle8

    Just a little off topic right now, Are you starting to feel it yet? Only six weeks to go before Football season. This is such a boring time of the year! I can’t wait.

  • http://thesandsinstitute.org Vassar Bushmills

    In every saloon brawl there is a bum’s rush-er, and a bum’s rush-ee. I have every intention that the one grabbing hold of the collar and belt will be “us.”

  • khiri

    “One of them, a guy tea partiers adore, seemed to hold them in open contempt at this table.”

    I read both this column and the linked WaPo column. I’m not seeing it.

    Who is this adored pol? If it’s Lott, I was not aware he was “adored.”

  • Marcus_Traianus

    Trent Lott was a big part of the useless group of Republicans that got us put in the woodshed. He was fiscally irresponsible, lived on pork, tried to kill efforts such as a government database of grants. He also hastily left Congress before a law that forbids lobbying for two years after resignation was passed. And he is lobbying whom?

    That former Republican members of Congress involved with getting us into this mess are advising sitting members is akin to the canary inviting the cat to lunch.

    Seriously, Trent should have just went back to Ole Miss and asked if they would let him on the varsity cheer-leading squadron again.

  • Brian Hibbert

    “The candidates are not ours to choose. . . . They?re the choice of the primary voters in the states, and I think we should respect their choices.?

    The same John Cornyn who insisted that Charlie Crist was the ONLY candidate Republicans should have in Florida?

    I’m glad to see he’s FINALLY gotten the message. He’s a good conservative when it comes to legislation, but he’s been struggling with picking less than reliable votes for Senate as head of the RSC.

  • http://impudent.edublogs.org/ kyle8

    there is no hope for him.

  • http://impudent.edublogs.org/ kyle8

    there is no hope for him.

  • RedBeard

    Bob Bennett and Dick Lugar have both stated (can’t find the quotes now, if anyone can help) their frustration with that pesky old Constitution, and with those who expect our “leaders” to honor their oath to support and defend it. This is the very definition of a RINO.

    We expect such disgusting thoughts from leftist Democrats, like Phil “I don’t care about the Constitution” Hare, but we should not expect it, nor tolerate it, from Republicans.

    No one should ever be elected to public office, not even dogcatcher, if his opinion is that the Constitution is an annoyance and an impediment.

  • neomom

    Keep naming names. We need to know what, and who, we are up against on both sides of the aisle.

  • Tbone

    That GWB couldn’t have gotten fiscally responsible legislation though the crooked Republicans is becoming increasingly obvious.

  • eburke

    is every bit as much of the problem as the Dems…this little gem, and Bitter Bob Bennett’s riff against us poor, stupid, Constitution-loving hayseed hicks, confirms it.

    And we wonder why the constant cave-ins…the refusal to fight for limited government and constitutionally minded judges…etc…etc…etc….

    It’s time to clean house. It’s time to find people who will stand up for the Constitution. It’s time to *become* the Party.

  • http://www.examiner.com/x-1597-Charlotte-Law--Politics-Examiner Mike gamecock DeVine

    with the Fighting Gamecock’s first national championship (won 2010 College World Series) since USC’s founding in 1801, will carryover to pigskin domination of the SEC east, at least…as of now, we are tied for first…and last with Dawgs, Vols, Gators and Commodores.

  • http://www.examiner.com/x-1597-Charlotte-Law--Politics-Examiner Mike gamecock DeVine

    Cornyn has been tamed?

  • kingfish

    Yes Tent, we don’t need a bunch of new congressmen who would say no to Bush-Paulson-Obama bailouts, no to Obamacare, no to Bush-Obama stimulus crap that doesn’t work, and dysfunctional governments that can’t do their basic jobs when it comes to hurricanes and oil spills. There is a reason liberals never frothed at the mouth when you were in the Senate like they did other conservatives and that is because they knew you were more interested in making deals than actually standing up for something. As far as I am concerned, working as a lobbyist suits you well because it means you can now get paid to be the trollop you always were.

  • http://www.hakubi.us/ Neil Stevens

    Bush, Bush, Bush, Bush, Bush.

    Get over it.

  • http://pocketchangeproductions.net/ anotherindyfilmguy

    These same idiots will find themselves doing everything they can to get along/go along with the Tea party folks instead of kissing democrack butt etc…

  • http://www.hakubi.us/ Neil Stevens
  • tngal

    in thinking there won’t be a tea party sweep. Just like there will not be a lfaming liberal sweep for the dems. We just need to get enough DeMint disciples in there so they understand we’re a force to be reckoned with. And, I’m willing to compromise with Lott and Bennett. I’ll let them choose which of my arse cheeks to kiss. The left or the right.

  • Michael Dugas

    Could Bush have gotten such legislation passed given what we know today about so many of our “Republican” representatives. They showed no desire nor drive to push for fiscally responsible legislation when they held the majorities. Instead of pulling together and working together on what they mutually agreed on they broke up into groups and practiced the art of in-fighting while achieving nothing.

  • kingfish

    Bush tried his own stimulus. Stupid rebate checks. He gave us the first bailouts. Obama took Bush’s worst economic polices and injected them with steroids. You seem to forget how flawed Bush was. Do you remember the first bailout proposed by Paulson? three pages? A blank check with no judicial review allowed. It wasn’t just Obama that put us in this mess but Bush as well. It was Bush, Paulson, and Ben that decided to save Bear Stearns. If they had not done so, Fuld would’ve made a deal to sell Lehman when he had legitimate offers on the table that would’ve prevented the October meltdown. Obama bears much of the blame but Bush is not spotless either, not by a long shot.

  • http://www.hakubi.us/ Neil Stevens

    Your obsession with Bush bashing is Obamaesque.

  • qixlqatl
  • SteveLA

    kingfish

    So let’s just stipulate for a second that Bush made mistakes with the economy, that’s part of the job of leadership by the way, making decisions and some decisions made are the wrong thing in 20/20 hindsight….call it stuff happens. But there is another question that you avoid.

    When does the old “You break it, you own it” kick in for King Obama? When does “Blame Bush” end and it’s all in Obama’s lap and on his watch? It’s a simple question that you seem to avoid, and the MSM avoids and Obama avoids.

    At what point is the Boy King in charge of the economy, the government and all the rest, no more blaming Bush?

  • qixlqatl

    Milwaukee was kick Atlanta’s butt… :(

  • JSobieski

    The Paulson 3-pager was TARP, not a stimulus. TARP was passed AFTER the Bush stimulus (Stimulus 1).

    Obama is the bad aspects of Bush economic policy on steriods, and nobody is calling Bush spotless. However, Bush isn’t President.

  • scrapiron

    Right there with you tngal!!

  • Paul_In_Houston

    “There’s not a dime’s worth of difference between them!”

    I have to ask this of the GOP leadership…
    @#$ %^&* *(!!! Are you absolutely determined to prove him right?!!!”
    -

  • conservativecrusade

    , I will skip that as it is obvious your mindset is the same as Obamas. That being said, at least the rebate checks gave the money back to those it is taken from. And quite frankly, it was nice for once to get back a very small portion of what I have paid in.

    The fact is the collapse of this economy started long before Bush and was coming no matter who was president. Bush was far from perfect, but Obama makes him look the saints part.

    And by the way, your sorry belief that selling Lehman would have stopped the meltdown is not only child like but also preposterous. Our current situation is due to many things, all which started cooking long before Bush thought about running.

  • lewbrown

    In olden days you could say things and not worry about anyone hearing them. Thank you Internet for keeping me informed. Keep talking Republicans that have no allegiance, you and RINO’s will not be happy after the next election. I will vote Conservative, not Republican or Democrat and here in Maryland that means NO STENY HOYER.

    http://www.stmarystoday.com/News/ThrowOutHoyer.html

  • fpete13527

    Perfectly stated. Also please post more pictures.

    This string would be really great for some RINO comics

  • kingfish

    I have not praised Obama one bit. I have not defended one single policy of his. I said he bears much of the blame. However, when it comes to the current economic crisis, Bush had something to do with that as well. That is not Bush bashing, that is telling the truth. If you disagree with me, then that means you thought it was fine to pass TARP, bailout GM and Chrysler, pass out worthless rebate checks, remove the leverage limits that saw Lehman go to 30:1 and Fannie & Freddie much higher, or the reckless spending that saw Bush not issue any vetoes his first few years in office.

    One of the reasons there IS a Redstate is because conservatives like Eric have had enough of the Dole/McCain/Bush Republicans that keep leading us to disaster with their policies and their tactics. Heaven forbid I should dare mention any criticism of Bush for if I do, I am suddenly an Obama lover despite how many times I criticize him. Him being Obama of course.

  • kingfish

    Not exactly.

    There were quite a few conservatives arguing Bush should not have taken those actions BEFORE he took them. I seem to remember the WSJ editorial page and others arguing against the rebates. Quite a few conservatives argued against saving Bear and issuing TARP. In fact, you can tell by the Dow the exact moment TARP passed because it started sliding at that point. I argued on my own website against the TARP and other things Bush did in his last year. Hindsight my gluteus maximum, many of us knew what would happen and said so if Bush took the actions he did.

    Then Obama took Geithner, who wrote up the TARP’s, and made him T-sec, kept Bernanke, and just did more of what Bush was doing: bailouts, spending, and phony stimulus.

  • kingfish

    I said the three-pager was a bailout. Here is what I wrote:

    “Do you remember the first bailout proposed by Paulson? three pages? A blank check with no judicial review allowed.”

    Either you are not telling the truth or you lack reading comprehension. Quit lying to make a point.

  • kingfish

    The decision to remove leverage limits by Cox’s SEC. Suddenly the 12:1 limits were gone and you saw leverage of 20:1, 30:1, and 80:1. That allowed what would have been events that caused problems in the markets to instead cause market meltdowns. In other words, instead of burning down the block, it allowed the fire to burn down the neighorhood.

    Then there are the CRA’s. If they were actually doing their jobs, then the MBS’s would’ve been priced properly for their risk, which was more likely a C or junk instead of AA that was so routinely given. That would have stopped a good bit of the liar loans from even being underwritten as their would have been little demand for them. See The Sellout by Gasparino.

    Now, that doesn’t excuse the GSA’s, Obama’s policies, nor other factors but if I had to rank the causes, those are my first two.

  • http://www.examiner.com/x-1597-Charlotte-Law--Politics-Examiner Mike gamecock DeVine
  • http://www.examiner.com/x-1597-Charlotte-Law--Politics-Examiner Mike gamecock DeVine

    worth of difference between the parties, plus, then as now, the Dems won’t defend America. The GOP has and will.

  • Richard Mullins

    and you seem to worried about the mess and not the solution. You must be Obama’s best friend right now. You seem to have a problem with understanding things. Let me guess, you must have a Leftist democrat at one time since you sound like one.

  • http://www.jacksonjambalaya.com kingfish

    won’t argue facts, just name-call because you don’t like what I write. I’m not writing anything not said by Dr. Anna Schwartz, Mish, the WSJ editorial page, the Market Ticker, Zero Hedge, Meredith Whitney, the Black Swan, and Jim Rogers. I would not call any of them Obama lovers either.

  • acat
  • Richard Mullins

    So it’s not worth my time to deal with stupid morons and more over worring about the past on problems doesn’t get you anywhere. Yep, you are a Blame Bush idiot and most of if not all of the people you reference are Blame Bush idiots that I have no use for.

  • SteveLA

    When does the responsibility for the economy belong to Obama, simple simple simple question.

  • David123

    who has attended a church for 20 years where they curse America?

    The Republican party is on America’s side.

  • cactusjack

    especially seeing the boring, dissappointing spectacle of McCain running against Obama in 2008. Two things to remember about George Wallace:

    1. In his later years, he sincerely repented of his segregationist views and became very pro African American in his appointments in state government. His sincere conversion was generally accepted by that community in Alabama. It was not and never accepted by the MSM or libs. The only “conversions” they accept are other Dems when their name is Robert Byrd.

    2. IIRC Wallace was the last third party candidate for POTUS, who in 1968 who actually won states and their EC votes in the general election. Not even Perot did that with a greater pct of the popular vote in 1992. That is an extremely hard thing to pull off (winning EC votes as 3P candidate), in our system of government, meaning he had broader support than is recognized. Go back and read his platform, there was nothing about segregation or race, it was about national debt, foreign alliances, the UN’s worthlessness, protecting the manufacturing base…fairly prescient.

  • cactusjack

    especially seeing the boring, dissappointing spectacle of McCain running against Obama in 2008. Two things to remember about George Wallace:

    1. In his later years, he sincerely repented of his segregationist views and became very pro African American in his appointments in state government. His sincere conversion was generally accepted by that community in Alabama. It was not and never accepted by the MSM or libs. The only “conversions” they accept are other Dems when their name is Robert Byrd.

    2. IIRC Wallace was the last third party candidate for POTUS, who in 1968 who actually won states and their EC votes in the general election. And, he polled very strongly in the MidWest as well as in some southern States. Not even Perot did that with a greater pct of the popular vote in 1992. That is an extremely hard thing to pull off (winning EC votes as 3P candidate), in our system of government, meaning he had broader support than is recognized. Go back and read his platform, there was nothing about segregation or race, it was about national debt, foreign alliances, the UN’s worthlessness, protecting the manufacturing base…fairly prescient.

  • AceInTX

    isn’t the real news here that Cornyn has been tamed?

    This from Cornyn:

    Republicans such as Paul and Sharron Angle in Nevada may hold provocative views, but “they’re our nominees and I think we ought to get behind them 100 percent,” said Sen. John Cornyn (Tex.).

    “The candidates are not ours to choose,” said Cornyn, chairman of the Republican Senatorial Campaign Committee. “They’re the choice of the primary voters in the states, and I think we should respect their choices.”

  • Tbone

    conversations with the Republican Aristocrats to appreciate the morally and fiscally bankrupt Republican Congressional leaders that the Texas Governor discovered upon his arrival in Washington.

  • Tbone

    and the now totally discredited Paulson and Bernanke?

    I just need to know how really stupid you are?

  • Tbone

    They will choose the middle.

  • http://moelane.com/ Moe Lane

    That’s not a request.

  • WIBadger

    As a cheesehead and Brewers fan, I give you credit for a pithy comeback.

    p.s. I wish we had your pitching staff…..

  • http://www.examiner.com/x-1597-Charlotte-Law--Politics-Examiner Mike gamecock DeVine

    the Braves have been where the Brew Crew is now, so all things are possible.

    thx guy

  • http://www.examiner.com/x-1597-Charlotte-Law--Politics-Examiner Mike gamecock DeVine
  • http://xmmlbchat.blogspot.com katesmith

    From the groove yard of forgotten favorites, Trent Lott in 2007 wanted amnesty passed, was frustrated at resistance from Americans, quoted in NY Times on the topic: “Talk radio is running America. We have to deal with that problem.” Article 6/15/07, “Senate Leaders Agree to revive immigration bill.” (article is there but may req. registration).

  • Xasteius

  • teresakoch

    If we have Senators who aren’t willing to defend the basic tenets of the Constitution on which this country was founded, then they need to be out of there YESTERDAY.

    So come on, people, let us know who these traitors among us are…..

  • teresakoch

    If we have Senators who aren’t willing to defend the basic tenets of the Constitution on which this country was founded, then they need to be out of there YESTERDAY.

    So come on, people, let us know who these traitors among us are…..

  • qixlqatl

    I’m a lifetime Georgia resident, and as such, as much a fan of the Braves as I can be since the last strike soured me on professional baseball. The whole steroid thing hasn’t helped, either.

    Not sure how the game turned out, but late in the seventh, the Brewers had a 5-2 lead. I just can’t get into it like I did a few years ago, but I’ll always have a good thought for “the home team” (which incidentally once called Milwaukee home).

  • fpete13527
  • pirate55

    If the Republican Party is to be reclaimed rightfully by its conservative base, we have to start naming the names of those who would ridicule their employers, the citizens of this country. RINO’s such as Snowe and Collins in Maine and the many additional Republican career politicians in our Senate and House of Representatives must be replaced by citizen government.

    It is 2010 and we can no longer afford not to know who is not going to move forward with the conservative ideology required to rescue this country from itself. Please forget this idea of a third party as liberal ideologues are hoping that just that DOES OCCUR. If it does, we are definitely no longer in trouble, we are simply defeated……….forever!

  • kchand

    It’s much like getting rid of bark beetles. They attack the old, weak and diseased trees and some timber has to be cut out to save the forest.

  • winthisone

    is worried about having to deal with the people’s people, like Ken Buck in the Senate.

  • andrewmn

    “That is an extremely hard thing to pull off (winning EC votes as 3P candidate), in our system of government, meaning he had broader support than is recognized.”

    The opposite is true in that Wallace had an extremely narrow base of support and that is how he won EV’s; by having the people voting for him be based in only a handful of states located in the South.

  • tngal

    That man was notorious for tickle fights. I was succinct. Pick left OR right. Running down the middle is beginning to wear this conservative out.

  • IJB

    And, honestly, I cut him and the GOP a lot of slack after 9/11 because there were frankly more important priorities at that time that FisCon.

    But, that said, there is nothing to suggest the Bush would have pushed much for smaller gov’t in the absence of 9/11. It read to me like it just wasn’t his passion…

  • IJB
  • AceInTX
  • Richard Mullins

    and running FF 3.6 and I don’t double post. I wouldn’t mind moving to Win 7 Ultimate but I don’t have the near $200 to do it. From what I know of Win 7, it uses half the RAM and that good for me since that 8GB is going to work better in Win 7.

  • Joliphant

    and then there is the party of opportunity.. The opportunity for everyone who gets elected is to better themselves at their constituents expense. The problem the Tea Partiers, the small government Republicans like and everyone else be they independent liberal or democrat but still wanting to see the best for this country, has is how do we reign in the party of opportunity. Its always been a problem but damned if I know how it ever got this out of control

  • Adjoran

    Why would their opinions even be relevant?

    If you are going to ascribe statements to “groups of Republican Senators” you should name names. If the information about what was said is reliable enough to repeat, the identities of the speakers should be, too.

    If there isn’t sufficient verifiable sourcing, just don’t repeat it.

  • The_Gadfly

    That was why he had trouble getting ficon legislation through: he didn’t think much of it either. The difference between W and the rest of the RINOs is that Bush was more honorable. I had a lot of disagreements with him, but I did always like that he behaved honorably.

  • SEC_SAM

    Trent Lott and those of his ilk could be and should be poster children for the demise of FREEDOM in America. Thier Washingrton, D.C. club, the U.S. Congress, have developed a program of compromise which benefits only them and is what keeps them in office. Please, let me never hear another politician tell us that compromise is how you get things done in Washington. Their brand of compromise is how you keep your job and are able to say you “tried, but just could not get it all worked out.” Every compromise they make is another nail in our collective coffin. It is all about them, it is all about power, it is all about greed, and it is NOT about AMERICA.

    Every moment you spend time thinking of our elected officials and those that solicit their favors think about TERM LIMITS. That is the only political way we will regain control of our country. In 2012 we need a Presidential candidate that will support TERM LIMITS during his/her campaign and then actually go after it when elected. NO COMPROMISES ALLOWED – TWO TERMS FOR EVERYONE AND NO TOTAL TERM IN OFFICE TO EXCEED 8 YEARS.

  • edniceville

    and speaks to what I believe has been the biggest problem with the ‘Pubs’ in Congress. They, as a group, never seemed to have the will to fight the opposition! We DO NOT need a lot of “Rodney King” types just wishing that “we all just get along”! For all the mockery we make of foreign legislatures when we see videos of the brawls, furniture and object throwing, we have to at least commend them on having the courage of their convictions, and the gumption to back it up! The Namby Pambys in the Congress have to GO! There NEEDS to be a very distinct difference between the two parties, and it needs to be very VISIBLE! No more can we allow our legislators to be stately, serene and willing to compromise! We need leaders who will LEAD and LISTEN and be willing to FIGHT for the people they represent and for the sanctity of the Constitution!

  • hilyardtallett

    He is the one who let us down, a part of the “good old boy” club. He showed us his lack of leadership qualities before. Why should anyone listen to him?

  • acat

    Now, if we see dollars flowing into their campaigns from the national party coffers, I’ll believe Cornyn’s tame. Until then, my gut tells me that, like any politician, he’s saying what he thinks he needs to say to keep his job.

    Given the history, we need to watch Cornyn closely, and replace him with an actual conservative when possible.

    Mew

  • trp878

    They apparently still don’t get it. “We the people” are feed up with “Politicians”. lying, corruption, perks, inside advantages & schemes, etc. That is what “We the people” are tired of. Be it either party. “Throw the Bums Out”.
    The GOP was great until they started to defy “We the People”. We want good honest Politicians that listen to the People and have our Country at heart. Not special interests or big Corps. All the Bums must go. They’re all in the smoke filled back room ( Capital Hill Club) saying it can’t happen to me. Precisely the reason they are being thrown out as they decided they knew better than “We the people”.
    “We the People… (KEEP UP THE GOOD WORK)
    P.S. Apparent evidence for reinforcement- “We the People” threw out some of the Bums. Those who were talking in the smoke filled back room) are Lott , Bennett, Hatch & Cornyn. It appears More Bums must go.

  • SIConservative

    Your comment about the guy “tea partiers adore” is extremely harmful and only breeds mistrust. Frankly, I don’t mind what he thinks of the tea party if that adoration has been earned through his work in DC. That said, the comment just makes readers suspicious of every ally in the Senate, and that’s neither healthy nor helpful. If you’re going to make a statement like that, you really should say who it was.

  • joanb36

    The Tea Party people are “just…us!” Everyday, America loving voters who want smaller, government, less taxes , economic recovery through free enterprise, not govt. control and takeover of EVERYTHING!!!! We should be able to pass inheritance down to our families with out it being stolen from them by government (theft)taxes! We want a future for our children, grandchildren and great grand children which promises freedom, a government who follows the Constitution, and judges who do their job like they’re supposed too. NOT stab Americans in the back with liberalism. We want An American loving president not a dictator who is embarrassed by the our incredibly successful history. Perfect? No,but always a work in progress. We are the tax payers, the voters, the workers,the scholars & educators, the retirees, the young, the old. We are sick of lies and corrupt politicians. Yep! We’re a pretty scary group Trent Lott and friends. You may have even started out with values and principles, and morals , but lost them through the D.C environment! How ever, your snoot is in the air and you’ve lost touch with the real America (not South America!!

  • acat

    We The People trust our politicians with our money, our country, for a term – trusting them to do what is right, what they say they’ll do, etc.

    Too often, the candidates start thinking it’s about *them*, but it’s really about the country, not winning favor with the media, going to the right bar for drinks with the right crowd, getting quoted in the right papers.

    Pols who forget this need to be hammered *hard* – see if they can be bent back into shape and, if not, bent into scrap and retired.

    NOT trusting them would be a big help in sorting out who needs a good whack upside the head.

    Mew

  • http://www.twitter.com/RS_yoyo yoyo

    I won’t trust any of them as far as I can throw them – and I am skinny and MOST of them look as if they haven’t missed a meal in DECADES.

    That said, I have been and will be a proponent of term-limits and the belief that each Rep and Senator (republican or democrat) should be Primaried every cycle.

    [My thoughts on the PRIMARY is that it forces incumbents to be on the record to their core constituency EACH and EVERY term and allows a forum of other like-minded (hopefully) candidate(s) to openly debate similar policies beliefs. That, and it keeps incumbents on their toes and keeps them sharp. I know, downside is that it is expensive and potentially damaging - but, if the incumbent has kept his/her nose clean, kept to his/her constituency and listened during the past 2, 4, or 6 year term, what is it that could come out that would be that damaging? Our candidates deserve to be under the microscope just as much - if not more than - the Left. We KNOW what the Left is up to; Our folks, maybe not so much....]

  • liberty131911

    the arrogance of these moron Republicans keep making it more and more likely. If the Republicans win the congress in November and then continue down this same road I believe you will see a 3rd party in 2012 and that will be the final nail in the coffin of our Country.

  • http://www.periodictablet.com superamerican

    The “visceral judgment” of the populace brought us Barack Obama the worst president in United States history. He is the first American Idol — The President. So much for Trent Lott, the “establishment” Republican Party and Democrats. We need none of them.

    http://www.periodictablet.com

    Superamerican

  • dudette

    (male) and that was why he quit probABLY going to be outted—and what a worthless disappointing POS he was–thought to be so conservative but something happened on the way to the Forum. Good riddance. Well we DO need more Jim de Mints and he gets my $. The other one who left awhile ago who I loved was I believe Nickles?? This is the type of publicity we do not need so near the election when the closest party to the tea party principles is the GOP and then you have some RINO-wads openly disavowing tea party. I tell you, do they all take stupid pills in the morning??

  • dudette

    as best we can this November and then primary the heck out of RINOs that are there. Start the campaign early on the RINOs—look at McCain—would he be such a fierce opponent of amnesty if it weren’t for JD?

  • Lock_Piatt

    Trent was leader and could not get Tort reform done, could not do away with even one bureaucratic department. They failed to get permanent tax reductions, failed to end pork, failed to end go allow to get along, failed to get reforms in the entitlement plans, failed to get a real energy plan approved, failed to promote new heavy industries, failed to restore our manufacturing jobs, allowed the EPA to gut our industrial jobs.

    Now he want to control Senators with lobby money.

  • dudette

    a Tea Party Caucus in the House, just like the Dimocrats have their Progressive Caucus. Ha Ha HA!!!

  • dudette

    where this conversation happened

  • ihateliberals

    Republican and conservative. If the Republicans would stop whining long enough to listen to us there would not be a tea party. we have been crying out for years for them to stop moving to the middle. They learned nothing from Ronald Reagan. Both of the Bush’s moved the party to the left. If it hadn’t been for the 911 attacks Bush would not have even been reelected. Now I’m sorry he was. If we don’t get rid of these RINO’s like Steele, Bennett etc. This will be the last year of the Republicans as a leading party. Steele continues to bring us down and we do nothing about him. Whatever the Republicans lose won’t be the fault of the Tea Party it will be theirs. GOP, listen up “We Want Conservative Leaders”. Out with the RINO’s. Hatch you’re next on Utah’s list. The church can’t save you now.

  • http://www.hakubi.us/ Neil Stevens
  • alvin

    America was not founded on an observance of the Republican and Democratic parties as they have evolved to be, and however close those good folk of the time may have been to being “Liberals” and “Conservatives”, they enjoyed a greater consensus and less division. The principles by which they were driven are the core principles of the Tea Party, and the monicker of the present day movement is illustrative of that which provoked the “party” on Boston Harbor. If the “right” and the “left”, Republicans and Democrats, do not get the Tea Party, it’s because they don’t get the essential principles by which people were motivated in 1776. Indeed, perhaps many in the Tea Party aren’t fully aware themselves that it’s those too long abandoned elements of pride, patriotism, and love of Country which provoke their current melancholy.
    But be that as it may, it suffices that growing numbers of Americans are becoming acutely attuned to the hole in the Nation’s soul. They may not be adept at enumerating the specifics of their longing, but they know something’s missing in Washington, and they’re rapidly recognizing the sort of people who will NOT restore it.
    If the political savvy and philosophy of the Tea Party folks should precipitate a split between Republicans and true Conservatism in November 2010, then so be it. The goal of we discontented is a return to integrity and clarity of principle, so if the present, ensconced Republican leadership would complain that our activism threatens the status quo, then why would that be a BAD thing?
    While Obama’s performance has been dismal to say the least, how many years since the beginning of Reagan have the Republicans had to make corrections and resolve some of our issues? Immigration, Social Security, and several other problems have been brewing for a long time, so regardless of how much “better” things may have been under Republicans, it’s certainly not as if they have been a shining example.
    The message to Washington in general; The will of Washington is the problem, and the will of the American people is going to be the solution. The acquiescence is for THEM to observe.

  • hayman

    I truly hope that there is not much surprise in the fact that Trent is anti-conservative. Surely his voting record shows that.

    He like most of the other GOPites in WDC are career politicians and not true conservative. I have even stopped identifying myself as a republican because there is little or no difference between the two parties.

    Most, if not all of these politicians should be charged with treason for continually voting contrary to the Constitution.

    Wake up America, red may not be the color we need either! What color are true conservatives? That is the color we need in all of our states.

    stephen

  • miroco

    The list grows, my guys get dumber, They will actually blow this deal. Pawlenty gave us FrankenSmalley, Goober gave us surrender as an option, Snowe screws us over every day and we still let Brown in…
    Compromise got us the Lott’s of this world, I’d rather go down fighting for something I care about—

  • prior21us

    I could be wrong, but it seems to me that some in the GOP are running scared. Bad mouthing the Tea Party is s sure way to get removed from office.

  • soljerblue

    Nothing wrong with that progression, SoFiMil, but — IF we actually take back the House, and MAYBE the Senate, our first and biggest fight will be with our own leadership. They must first be disabused of the notion that conservatives will be “co-opted”, and business-as-usual will prevail. Until that happens — however long it takes, months, a couple of cycles, whatever — we will not be able to effectively take on the Dems.

    I am not convinced that we’re going to wash out the Augean Stables in one feld swoop this November, First, we’re more than three months away from election day, in the middle of the it’s-summer-pay-no-attention period, when only the political junkies on both sides are “into” it. You’d best believe that will change after Labor Day. Second, regardless of what the polls and pundits say now, races ALWAYS tighten in the last weeks. Third, do not be fooled that Dems will just sit back and let the storm happen. They will spend money, time, and favors, “raise the dead”, and use any other dirty trick or intimidation tactic they can, to limit their losses. They’ve had months to see this thing coming, and they’ve not been idle.

    Do not, I beg you, swallow the prevailing wisdom and start thinking this thing is over. Stay angry, stay motivated, stay involved — or we’ll be very, very sorry on November 3rd.

  • incumbentrant

    in my opinion…and what’s the problem he sees with Paul and Angle holding “provocative” views…does that mean they plan to uphold the Constitution??

  • tanarg

    It even says, “Comment Title.” It’s not for the first sentence’s first several words. Using it that way makes it very difficult to read posts. First, not everyone uses it the same way. Second, one has to skip a line and then continue. Third, one never knows where a post will actually begin its first sentence.

    I can’t read this forum as a result. If the title were directly above the message body, that would not be a problem, however.

  • JSobieski

    if such small obstacles prove to be such a problem.

    If only life could be constrainted to fit into tightly defined format? If only people would act in the “same way” everything would be so much better?

    Heck with that! If you had included a mention about the evils of kids keeping score at soccer games, I would have pegged you as a living caricature.

    Good luck to you. I do truly hope that your coping skills for a certain amount of non-standard sameness increases in the future.

  • simplyright4me

    We need 68 DeMints and we finally got rid of the coward that let Clinton off. Lott is, as Beck would describe it, a crap sandwich, and we have had enough crap from Lott.

  • takemccain2

    yet he is out in Colorado trying to raise money for Jane Norton, so his words are pretty meaningless to me.

    If he really believes what he is saying, then why is he interfering yet again by inserting himself into a primary race? By raising funds for Norton, he isn’t staying neutral, he’s basically endorsing a candidate.

    So how does a statement exonerate him from his actions?

    It doesn’t.

  • 6eorge Jetson

    I’m in the middle of a relocation and away from my PhotoShop for most of the summer. I’m sure I’ll be PhotoShopping more frequently once the family & I are settled.

  • jennytheproudconservative

    I think it would be a disservice to ourselves to vote republicans out just because they are republicans. There have been some great republicans who have seldom deviated from their convservative roots and they deserve any good conservative’s support.

    Please look at their voting record before deciding to oust.

  • jennytheproudconservative

    As we’ve all seen, change for the sake of change doesn’t do anyone any good.

    If you want to vote someone out, do it because of their merits and voting record. Not just for empty change! There are some great true conservative men and women in congress and it would be a shame to oust them for the mere cause of ‘Change.’

    Surely we have learned that lesson.