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Senate GOP Leadership Begins Setting The “Blame Conservatives” Narrative

By: Erick Erickson (Diary)  |  September 14th, 2010 at 11:52 AM  | 

RESIZE: AAA

Here’s the situation on the ground: if the GOP makes significant gains in the United States Senate, it will be in spite of the best efforts of the Senate Republicans.

  • The Senate GOP stood with Charlie Crist and conservatives stood with Marco Rubio.
  • The Senate GOP stood with Arlen Specter and conservatives stood with Pat Toomey.
  • The Senate GOP stood with Trey Grayson and conservatives stood with Rand Paul.
  • The Senate GOP stood with Bob Bennett, then that other guy, while conservatives stood with Mike Lee.
  • The Senate GOP stood with Sue Lowden and conservatives stood with Sharron Angle.
  • The Senate GOP stood with Jane Norton and conservatives stood with Ken Buck.

In a few cases, like in California, the Senate Republicans beat the conservative. In a few cases, like Washington and Wisconsin, the Senate Republicans and conservatives stood together.

But that’s not good enough.

The Senate GOP, the odds against them for a Senate majority anyway, are seeking to use the recalcitrance of their conservative base to blame the base for not getting the majority.

Even so, the two men have seen their party’s chances of making major gains in the Senate threatened by their inability to push their preferred candidates through several GOP primaries

I’ve been around the block enough to know a line like that does not appear in a story without someone involved in the story pushing a narrative. In fact, we are seeing that across the board. The Senate GOP is intent on taking all the credit for all victories in November when, in fact, they opposed a significant number of the candidates who will be on the ballot in November.

Likewise, consider this:

So far, McConnell has attended nearly 240 political events, fundraisers and meetings for Republican candidates this cycle, more than any other Senate Republican besides current NRSC Chairman John Cornyn of Texas. At the same time, McConnell used his clout as GOP leader to rake in $2.6 million for GOP candidates, while maxing out donations from his own war chest to GOP nominees in key races. And he’s seen trusted aides leave to work on the country’s most closely contested races, including in Nevada, Washington state and at NRSC headquarters.

What the story does not mention is McConnell saw trusted aids go to Florida to work against Marco Rubio. He saw trusted aids go to the NRSC to work against conservatives. And I dare say Jim DeMint has done more financially through the Senate Conservatives Fund than Mitch McConnell has done.

But then the media would never give DeMint credit for expanding the Senate. The narrative set, with the help of the Senate GOP, is that the number would be greater but for Jim DeMint.

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  • Tbone

    the last time they were in the majority and will do it again the next time they are in the majority.

    Of course the media will parrot their positions because it hurts true conservatives.

    I am sure Mitch has a place of honored reserved for Mike Castle.

  • chipbennett

    It may not happen in 2011, even if the Republicans can gain control of the Senate.

    But if we play our cards right, we can send enough conservative Senators to Washington in 2012 to be able – finally – to demote go-along-get-along McConnell and (dare I even think it?) promote Jim DeMint to Senate Majority Leader.

    The key will be the continued momentum of the grassroots, whether through the TEA party movement, or simply by conservatives taking over precinct-by-precinct, and ensuring that conservative candidates are put forth, and that more contributed money goes toward supporting those candidates.

    If we can do that, as bad as 2010 will be for Democrats, 2012 will be even worse for our wishy-washy Republican caucus leaders.

  • obladioblada

    Memo to the good ole boys at the GOP:

    You keep misinterpreting our employer-employee relationship. You are not the employers. You are fellow citizens that we have entrusted with a job and we retain the right to terminate your employment at will.

    The voters aren’t in this game because of their concern about the political welfare of partisan pols. We’re involved out of concern for our country and the quality of our lives. When you show an indication of sharing our concern then we can begin to re-evaluate the extent of the house-cleaning that we recognize as essential.

    It’s not about you, it’s about the U.S.

  • chihank

    The news was ready to call it for Lisa Murky before the polls closed. However, Murky lost the senate seat, she thought was entitlted to. Murky hasn’t returned to DC to resume her Senate duties. She still attempting to bribe the Libertarians. If that doesn’t work, then she will plot her write-in campaign.

  • Dan McLaughlin

    If we fall short of the majority because conservatives tossed Mike Castle, conservatives will get blamed. That blame will be fair…as to that one seat. But totally unfair when you consider who carried the ball into field goal distance.

  • Paul_In_Houston

    …being distinguishable from the democrats is extremist,
    and to actually want to defeat democrats is beyond the pale.
    -

  • fpete13527

    ……will be second project only to ensuring that true conservatives get in this fall.

    You would think that McConnell at this point would at least acknowledge and meld with all the work that true conservatives have done to ensure the conservative candidates get elected.

    But no…..McConnell wants to demonize and minimize the work that the grass roots have accomplished.

    As far as I’m concerned, time to completely bypass McConnell, even more, until November. And since he wants to run this blame conservatives narrative, I think the grass roots conservative narrative should be that we are coming in November….and McConnell is GOING!

  • indylawyer

    I’d have voted for most of those conservative underdogs (and also Miller in Alaska), and did vote for Stutzman here in Indiana. But if I was in the position of John Cornyn or Mitch McConnell I don’t think I’d have done things much differently than they did (Florida would be the exception, and I’d have really hated having to support Spectre). First of all, if the “establishment” candidates had won all those primaries, they’d all be prohibitive favorites to win in November (this assumes Spectre and Christ were still Republicans, which they probably would be if they’d thought they could win a Republican primary). Most of their conservative replacements will win anyway, but several of the races are closer than they would be, and it is likely that at least one will lose. If O’Donnell wins today, that changes a probable GOP pickup to a probable Democrat hold.

    Moreover, the candidates recruited by the Washington crowd are the kind that normally win. Not because they are moderate, but because they have shown they can win by doing it. Every one of them has won at least one statewide race. They’d be the type of candidates we’d need to have a solid chance to win most years. Their replacements will do well this year because just having an R after your name makes you viable in most states this year. But usually you have to also show some experience in public office. Being a magistrate judge or an assistant U.S. Attorney or a state house backbencher usually isn’t enough to mount a viable campaign. When the establishment candidates were recruited, it was very reasonable to expect this to be a normal year in which we’d be better off running experienced officeholders.

    I’d also note that the Washington crowd has not been nearly as aggressive in supporting their candidates against conservative opponents as it has in the past. Remember the campaigns to prop up Spectre in 2004? Or Chaffee in 2006? This year they just recruited the candidates they thought would be best (or incumbents they pretty much had to support), maybe gave an endorsement or pointed donors or staff to them, but largely left things to play out if a conservatve challenger emerged. Seems like a pretty reasonable strategy to me.

  • romeg

    Great LBJ Consensus.

    We can’t have any of that messy sausage-making, cantankerous debate stuff. After all, we need people that want to get “The People’s Business” DONE.

    Ah, LBJ. Now THERE was a GREAT SENATOR who became a GREAT PRESIDENT because, after all, it was HE that gave us the GRATE SOCIETY.

    If you doubt his GREATNESS, just ask Doris Kearns Goodwin.

  • bk

    When it’s an establishment candidate vs a conservative, the endorsement after the race is important if the conservative wins. So how has this worked out?
    - Crist lost and ran anyway.
    - Dede lost and endorsed the D.
    - Murkowski lost and may run anyway.
    - Specter was going to lose and so changed parties.

    Now maybe there are some cases in the other direction, but the worst case is if someone like Didier goes silent instead of endorsing Rossi. But these establishment jerks have the mentatlity of “if I can’t have it then neither can the conservative”. It’s maddening.

  • Marcus_Traianus

    I don’t know. All due respect to Charles Krauthammer and other denizens of doom. But the numbers tell me that in this environment, O’Donnell can still win the state. Look at the numbers from 2008;

    - In general about 70% of the registered voters show up on election day

    - There are about 98,000 more “registered” Democrats that Republicans

    - There are about 140,000 unaffiliated voters

    - Over 6,000 voters switched their party affiliation before the 2008 election

    - The unemployment rate in Delaware averages about 8.5%, the highest is 32 years. Think stimulus, bailouts and health care won’t be an issue for Democrats in the general?

  • joecollins

    I agree – the Repub party hierarchy is working against the conservative base. And yet, they continue to send requests for funding. “More money!” they plead in surveys and mailings. “No Money for RINOs!” I tell them in hand scrawled messages returned to them in their own pre-paid mailing envelope.

    This year, I donate only to the candidates of my choice . . not to the party.

    (Thank you, Jim DeMint.)

  • Marcus_Traianus

    From the <a href=”http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748704855104575469644268260492.html?mod=WSJ_hps_LEFTTopStories”WSJ;

    “Conservative and business groups, fueled by newly legal large donations from corporations, are mounting an effort to elect Republican candidates that could rival political spending by labor unions and liberal organizations for the first time in years.

    Every curious about where all your money is going Mitch?

  • Marcus_Traianus

    You guys really need to get a preview button….

  • Achance

    that the Party needs them more than they need the Party. Incumbern Senators, especially, have far more resources than all but the most active and organized state parties. As a general matter, only if there is a closed primary do incumbents have to much care what state party activists think.

  • reaganauh2o

    Some tea party purists might disagree, but being a lifelong resident of Washington, I guarantee that the critical element to defeating Patty Murray is the “wetlander” vote. Most of the evergreen state is really dry and brown and conservative, east of the Cascade mountains. The economic engine of the state is on the soggy side of the mountains. My heart is with Didier, but my money is on Dino.

  • cordpt

    Even a neophyte like Angle or Paul, you wouldn’t need a heavyweight like DeMint. I’m pretty sure all those guys would end up beating Coons.

    O’Donnell, if nominated, will lose by +20 points.

  • JSobieski

    Nobody was against all the upstart conservatives and nobody was for all the upstate conservatives. Palin didn’t endorse DeVore, she endorsed Carly, whom the meme would classify as an “establishment” candidate. Many people who aren’t on the O’Donnell bandwagon were in favor of virtually every other conservative upstart this go around.

    By adopting this meme, we are giving short shrift to ourselves. The meme is frankly contributing to the destructiveness of what is happening in DE.

    Why are we allowing the MSM meme to characterize who we are as a movement? Even people like Mark Levin are mischaracerizing people whop have endorsed Twomey in 2004, Rubio in 2009, Miller, Paul, et all as RINO’s because of this template.

    Conservatives can disagree as to tactics/strategy without being establishment hacks (how can bloggers be part of the “establishment”) or RINOs (people who supported Twomey against Spector in 2004 are RINOs?)

    We need to drop the meme and actually listen to what people say,respect that their political calculations may operate differently, and not create straw men to mischaracterize what other people are saying. We all for example, have some process by which policy positions and candidate baggage are evaluated. Pretending that we don’t and instead just insulting people who weigh things differently is not a way to preserve unity.

    Not jumping on the O’Donnell bandwagon does not make someone a RINO or an establishment hack any more than Palin is a RINO and establishment hack for support Carly. Saying Castle isn’t worth a vote in a R primary doesn’t make someone dumb, a uptopian dreamber, or a person without character. We all ways things differently, and we should respect that on all sides.

    Lets drop the templates and the memes, and actually address what people say. It will it far easier to get along and unite for November.

  • chihank

    John Cornyn says if O’Donnell wins tonight, then the NRSC will wirite off DE as a goner like Haley Barbour did with the Governor race in CO.

  • indylawyer

    With all the success by conservative upstarts this year, why did Mark Kirk get a pass? He’s probably the most liberal nominee we’ll have this year (except maybe Castle), and he’s running even against a scandal-plagued Democrat in a state that has elected conservatives statewide in the fairly recent past. Seems like one of the more conservative GOP congressmen would be leading handily, and the Illinois version of a Joe Miller or Sharron Angle would be doing at least as well as Kirk.

  • chihank

    There were 3 conservatives in the primary, but they raised little money. They mostly bickered among themselves on who spoke for the Tea Party movement instead of attacking Kirk’s liberal voting record.

  • tomato

    As much as I am excited over the re-emergence of conservatism and a soft-rebellion against big government, I fear this is the beginning of the end of the Republican party. Not conservatism, mind you. But a political organization heading in the direction of the Whigs.

    I imagine a GOP-controlled Senate elected by a populous demanding the revocation of ObamaCare will pontificate. They will lecture us how it is against the decorum of the chamber to act so rashly. Politic-babble for they enjoy the power and they’re not letting go. At that moment, the party will split in two.

    The problem is big government is the mainstream. Anything less is a threat. Big-government Republicans exist. However, the country doesn’t need two major “big-government” parties. One is sufficient, thank you.

  • Achance

    in the next few days. It will all be settled here by Friday. The final count of International absentees and the deadline for replacing a nominee on the General Election ballot is tomorrow COB. I’m reasonably sure that if the Democrat nominee remains the relatively unknown McAdams, Senator Murkowski will announce that she isn’t going to do an independent write-in campaign. What her refusal to rule it out has done is force the Democrats to consider having to face her money and organization with candidates who had lost statewide races to people named Murkowski before. It is kind of a reprise of what Knowles did to Frank Murkowski in ’06. We could all read polls and had no illusions that Frank was somehow going to pull out re-election in ’06, so the real question was, “Will Frank run?” Knowles put out that he wouldn’t run if Frank didn’t run. Frank had far more resources, though not so much organization, than Binkley or Palin. Frank delayed, delayed, and delayed right up to almost the last moment, but the moment Frank pitched in, so did Tony. I don’t think Frank could have won if he’d filed in January, but his playing the game kept Tony out until very late in the cycle.

    All that said, it is going to be very hard for me to forgive and forget being accused of trying to commit voter fraud. Frankly, I’m an old union hand and quite skilled at “influencing” the outcome of an election. If I had been interested in doing something like that, I would have done it, it would have been successful, and the opponent would have known I did it but would be sitting there in the impotent rage that comes from knowing you can’t prove it or do a damned thing about it.

  • indylawyer

    I also think the primary competition has greatly aided the previously unknown conservatives. If Buck, Miller and Angle hadn’t had formidable competition, I’m not sure that they’d have gotten on anyone’s radar. But beating well known opponents gave them the credibility they needed to be taken seriously by donors, volunteers, etc. in the general. That’s also the best argument O’Donnell will have for garnering support in Delaware if she wins today.

  • aesthete

    They must be either upstart telegenic true conservative citizen candidate underdogs taking on the system, or handmaidens of the monolithic and uniformly evil good ol’ boys’ club. Every single one. Anyone who thinks otherwise is just a compromising RINO who hates America and cheers on our socialist President.

    This snark is, btw, coming from someone who probably disliked the Bush Republicans and their deviations a good deal more than the current “true conservatives” out there proclaiming something similar to the above.

  • JSobieski

    I listen to Rush to be inspired, I log in to RS and other sites to get engaged in the process.

    Aesthete, its been a pleasure. See you when I can re-emerge.

  • indylawyer

    Where were DeMint, Palin, Erickson, et al in that one? Couldn’t an endorsement by one of them have helped one of those conservatives emerge from the pack? Of course, that was last winter before the wave really started to take shape.

  • aesthete

    I’m probably going to shut down myself until this whole O’Donnell thing blows over. A pox on both their houses, and too bad there aren’t enough people out there who can accept that we got dealt a poor hand wrt DE. This really should be a very cool, and sober, discussion regarding future recruitment efforts in DE, not a shouting match between conservatives about whose conservatism is purer (which is ironic considering that the movement intentionally has no explicit ideology).

  • http://slcliberty.blogivists.com randy streu

    The Conservatives needn’t claim the brunt of blame if O’Donnell loses a general. Castle has been the GOP golden boy, and Republican Leaders have spent the primary playing papa bear, and in so doing have done damage to O’Donnell.

    This is certainly not to say she’ll lose a general — but the GOP establish will look awfully stupid backpeddling.

    I was up close and personal in NY-23, AKA, the Scozzafava debacle. Saw it then, seeing it now.

  • nancylee

    like the hippies of the 60s — railing against “the Man”. Only now the bad guy really is the entrenched mainstream of the party.

    If these idiot elitists were willing to include the upstarts (read that ordinary concerned citizens) we wouldn’t have to fight tooth and claw to get our conservative candidates past establishment obstruction. They *really* don’t want to let the “Scaff and raff” in, do they? We might track mud on the Senate carpet with our non-elitest feet and thereby cheapen the rarified aristocratic air of the ruling class.

    This, of course, must not be allowed. They must keep those revolting peasants in their place.

  • Mayhem

    If the GOP keeps all their open seats this year and flips, say, 10 seats from the Dems, they will have 18 freshman Senators joining the conference in January. That is a huge infusion of new blood. The GOP conference will be starkly changed, in no small part thanks to DeMint. McConnell will have to work with them. If he doesn’t, his leadership will be in play. Plus, 2012 is a huge opportunity for DeMint to recruit even more minions to his lair, as 23 Democrats are up for reelection.

  • walter_hanson

    What was the biggest cause of the mess was that there was no primary to New York 23. We had a candidate shoved down our thoarts without a say.

    That sort of is what is going in 2010.

    They tried to shove Christ down our thoart.

    They tried to shove Norton down our thoarts.

    They tried to shove Bennet down our thoarts.

    In effect we have said we have a primary and we’re using it big time!

    Walter Hanson
    Minneapolis, MN

  • walter_hanson

    You know if we get the majority in the Senate will the GOP leadership thank us for giving them the majority.

    We saved Florida from the person who was going to vote for the Democrats.

    We got Democrats who could’ve run for reelection and maybe win Bayh and Dorgan to drop to turn those seats into winners.

    We’ll carry the IL candidate to victory even though he should’ve lost despite how the Democrats shot themselves in the vote.

    The one thing that the national leadership didn’t do was get any strong candidates in New York. Both of those seats are winnable if we had a strong candidate. Where’s Rudy? Where’s Tak?

    Walter Hanson
    Minneapolis, MN

  • http://slcliberty.blogivists.com randy streu

    Not really germane to the point, though.

  • cordpt

    Not perfect, because Maes, for all his faults, isn’t half as bad as Christine and is more articulate and fluent.

    Anyway, no need for the Party or the conservative movement to be associated with politicians like Maes and O’Donnell. The press will still try to play up that association, but at least make it hard for them.

  • Lloyd Davis

    …………………………………………………………………………………………………….

    ?Never say sorry – it?s a sign of weakness?
    John Wayne

  • Lloyd Davis

    there were already some who wanted to replace him (and McInnis) even before the primary. It was basically saying to the voters that they wanted to override their choice. Tancredo didn’t help by trying to hold the whole process hostage by trying to force both GOP nominees out.
    The election is being handed to Hickenlooper throughout the whole screwed up process by a bunch of spoiled children who are upset they didn’t get their way.

    ………………………………………………………………………………………………………

    ?Never say sorry – it?s a sign of weakness?
    John Wayne

  • JadedByPolitics

    absolutely outrageous and ridiculous you are, seriously, ANY generic Conservative can win BUT O’Donnell, talk about over the top rhetoric and liberal emotion, you got it all smack dab in one comment!

  • mikerazar

    You are

    “an old union hand and quite skilled at ?influencing? the outcome of an election.”

    But you didn’t commit a particular instance of voter fraud?
    What the he… does that mean?

    Are you now committed to free and fair elections? Or should we presume that you are correctly bragging about knowing how to cover your tracks?

    I guess we are lucky that your chosen profession is character assassination, rather than its more virulent cousin.

    Now I understand why you hate Sarah so much.

  • mikerazar

    I don’t always agree with you but you are among the most thoughtful voices of reason. Just ignore the foul-mouthed purists and keep on working to undo the Obama debacle

    Please stay..

  • aesthete

    RS, I’m sad to say, is my version of crack :)

    I’m simply going to attempt to be more of a lurker than previously, and to post a bit less about O’Donnell (something I’m currently not doing well with :) ). From what I understand, JSob is doing something similar.

  • JSobieski

    to get work done. I am just easing out of it.

  • asleep06

    I come to Redstate now to learn facts and not to debate. It’s simply not worth it after a while, unlike discussions in the flesh which are generally worth every second.

  • mosander

    We are going to need all the ethics, morality and constitutional minded elected officials to save our country. Stop sending money to the World Bank and the IMF and loaning to countries who will NEVER pay us back. And stop giving aid to countries that hate us. And stop giving money to the UN whose mission it is to turn us into a third world communist nation. WAKE UP!

  • greyhawk

    The only people that we should be electing to local, state and federal office are those who have as their mission the Dismantling of The Bureaucracy.

    Local and state governments are but a mirrored reflection of the federal government on a smaller scale.

    Before the wholesale takeover of Washington by Big Government Politicians in the modern era, which was started by Lyndon B. Johnson, the United States Government was fairly conservative as were the local and state governments in most states.

    When LBJ created the so-called Great Society Programs (Institutionalized and Nationalized Welfare Programs) this started the downfall of this nation as it created a system of Entitlement that has totally destroyed poor families, destroyed family values, destroyed work ethic in several generations of what would have been hard working and productive citizens, destroyed individual self worth in the recipients of welfare, destroyed self respect in individuals on welfare and in turn, these same folks who have no self respect, also do not respect others and they do not respect resources of any kind, and they have no gratitude.

    And, at the same time, the Federal Government has Squandered over ten trillion dollars in running this Federal Welfare System that has caused great harm to the country and more importantly to the lives that it has destroyed. And, of course, the Federal Bureaucracy mandated that State And Local Government’s put into place these Federally Mandated Welfare Programs that have proliferated over time, and the numbers of Victims To Serve Keeps Growing as the Bureaucracy Keeps Growing and Creating More Victims To Serve as a Means of Expanding the Bureaucratic Social Welfare Empire.

    You can apply the above analogy of the so-called Great Society Welfare Programs to all the Other Federal Agencies, Bureaus, Commissions and Departments and the results are the same.

    Once a Federal Agency, Bureau, Commission, or Department is established, the Federal Bureaucratic Machine Cranks Up and soon Becomes An Empire Builder and in order for the Specific Agency To Grow in Size and Power, it has to Find and Or Create New Problems to ostensibly solve, or it has to find or created New Victims To Serve as a means of expanding It’s Own Size, Power, Expenditures and numbers of workers and buildings it can accumulate.

    Once established, these Federal Bureaucratic Empires, they become Totally and Completely Fascistic and Despotic, and like all Despotic Empires, they will Never Willingly Give Up Their Empires, and in fact, they Will Purposely Sabotage Every Effort of anybody who attempts to do so, and they will use all the power and force at their disposal to destroy their opponents. All Empires Seek Growth with any means necessary.

    And, as all these Federal Agencies Grow in Size and Power, the states and local governments are given mandates by the feds by blackmail that says, “You get on board with us, and establish your own little kingdoms, or we withhold Federal Dollars and Funding to you.” And, the states fall in line, never questioning the Federal Regimes Authority to Blackmail them into submission and compliance.

    This sort of Governance was First Tried in the Modern Era with LBJ. LBJ got away with his Fascistic Takeover of the USA and He Put The Boot of the Federal Government on the Throat of State’s Rights and Nobody save for George C. Wallace said a thing, and in fact, the other states and the Mainstream Media Networks came down on George C. Wallace and Branded Him and Alabamians as a bunch of backwoods racists. The MSM and Government Branding of George C. Wallace and Alabamians as Racists was A Big Lie and Was Nothing But Propaganda, and the MSM and the Government Knew They Were Lying, but they sold the Lie Via Television, Movies, Sit Coms, and Propaganda Reporting posed as News.

    LBJ also started the Federalization of Public Education and in a mere 44 years, this Federal Intervention has Taken The Public School System in the USA from being in the top 3 best in the world in 1966 to Number 28 in the world today.

    There is a direct correlation with Incompetence, destruction and wasteful spending with the amount of federal intervention.

    Federal intervention into local and state matters has destroyed the American Family and the Members of those American Families, and it also Destroyed the Credibility of the Public Education System as it purposely Dumbed Down and Brainwashed the Country and It’s Citizens. This Dumbed Down Brainwashed Citizenry is the reason that the Obama’s, Pelosi’s, Frank’s, and other Incompetents keep getting elected.

    And, until we Begin the Abolishment of Many of the Federal Bureaucratic Machines such as the U.S. Department of Education as a start, we will never turn this Despotic Federal Bureaucracy and Government around. Sharron Angle, U.S. Senate Candidate from Arizona who is challenging Harry Reid, suggested the Dismantling of the U.S. Department of Education, and the MSM, including Fox News attacked her as if she had suggested burning down the White House. When, in fact, Abolishing the U.S. Department of Education is the perfect place to start in Dismantling the Federal Despotic Bureaucracy because this single Department now has an annual budget of over 200 billion dollars and is in the process of mandating that your children be taken from their homes at earlier and earlier ages and mandated to attend government run Pre-Schools (Daycares with Brainwashing). The Socialist Marxists now in power do not want to leave even one child behind who has not been Totally and Completely Raised By The Government Handlers who Can Thoroughly Brainwash and Dumb Them Down To Be Little Mindless Robots and Subjects or Slaves to the State.

    Wake up America. Obama and this gang in the U.S. Congress are trying to Finish Putting The Final Nail in the Coffin of this Republic. A job that was started with Lyndon B. Johnson after he and his fellow conspirators pulled off a coup de etat in 1963 after the assassination of JFK.

    November 1963 marked the End Of The Innoncence in America, and an end to Prosperity and the Advancment of the Middle Class. November 22, 1963 was the beginning of the End of the American Dream. And what we are facing in America today is the Nightmare that the Dream Turned Into.

    And, on Novemeber 2, 2010, we can begin Righting this Ship that LBJ and the other subversives Hijacked in Novermber 1963. If we do not turn this Ship Around 180 degrees and return to the Constitution and the Principles upon which this nation was founded and if we do not do it quickly, this ship of fools now in charge will take us to a point of no return.

    That is if we have not already arrived at that point?

    You decide? Are you going to continue to allow this nation to be run by a Ship of Fools, Subversives, Criminals, and Perverts? Or are you going to Demand Responsible Government Run By Responsible Citizens? As long as the Bureaucracy Is In Place, the Corrupt Politicians and The Paid Lobbyists will Continue to Purchase Legislation and Legislators. And you cannot depend on the TV Networks or Cable News Channels Talking Heads who are bought and paid for to give you good, useable information in making decisions. In fact, they, more often than not, will purposely mis-lead and lie to you, because they are owned and operated by the same folks who own the Lobbyists who Represent their Parent Organizations who Benefit From Government Legilsation which is legislated by bought and paid for legislators and presidents.

    After abolishing the Bureaucracy, we also have to Abolish Lobbyists who are the Real Brokers of Power in the USA today. We, the People, mereley Elect The Politicians who when they get to office, Do the Bidding of the Highest Bidders who are Bought and Paid For By Lobbyists and the People Behind the Scenes who Hire the Lobbyists.

    It is no more complicated than this. But, do we the people, have the courage to Take Our Country Back from these Incompetent would-be leaders who are working for Very Effective Lobbyists with Deep Pockets who have Deep Pockets because Our Elected Politicians Have Taken The Monies from You and Me through Taxes with a Boot On Our Throats, and Redistributed to Companies and Individuals Who Lobby Them For Their Favors?? It is a Zero Sum Game for You and me, the Citizen who works for a living, and a Win-Win situation for Congressmen, Presisdents, Lobbyists and the Deadbeats who Live On The Dole.

    But, the cash cow has run dry. This corrupt system has bankrupted the nation, and they now have to borrow from our enemies in the Federal Reserve, China, Japan, Germany, Saudi Arabia and other Enemies of The USA and We, The People.. Now, they are trying to take the last vestiges of our freedom and any assets we might have left.

    Obama’s class warfare statements are aimed at getting public support for seizing the monies and properties of those few citizens who still own private property and capital. He is not concerned with the vast majority of American Citizens as he sees us as Debt Slaves or Government Deadbeats on the Dole. He does not have to be concerned with the parasites the government created who are now on welfare as he knows he and any other socialist will always have their support as long as the free checks, food stamps, free health care, free rent, etc. keep coming. And, he believes he does not have to fear the debt slaves as he continues to offer Bailouts in the Form of Expanded and Extended Un Employment Checks, Mortgage Forgiveness, Rebates if You Buy Government Motors Cars, etc.

    The only people the Obama’s fear are those who still have enough Wealth, Power and Influence to Put Up A Real Fight to Save The Country.
    That is why he is Attacking the Rush Limbaugh’s and Others on the Right who have Wealth, A Voice and Power. That is why Obama is Doubling Down with his Class Warfare Strategies.

    Wake Up Americans, do not be duped into believing that you will be spared when these Marxists sieze complete fascistic power. You will not be spared. Right now, We, the People who are Debt Slaves or Welfare Deadbeats, are just Useful Idiots who supply votes on voting days. But, once these despots have complete and absolute power and control, elections and useful idiots are no longer necessary.

    November 2, 2010 can mark a turning point to Right This Ship. It truly depends on We, The People To Get Out The Votes To Elect Real Americans Who Have Not Been Bought Yet. And, once we elect them, we have to Martial Them and Make Sure They Do Not Join The DC Beltway Club of Criminals, Subversives, Socialists, Marxists and Lobbyists who Do The Bidding of The Power Brokers behind the Scenes who could care less about loyalty to You and Me or to A Sovereign United States of America. The Power Brokers Have no Aleigance to You and Me or to the USA or to the U.S. Constitution. They see You and Me, and A Powerful USA and the U.S. Constitution as Impediments to Their Power and Wealth.

  • nepanyrush

    The GOP establishment is as out of touch with the mood of the people as the Democrats. Unfortunately, here in PA they got some victories. The true conservative for Governor(Rohrer) and the true conservative for Congressional district #10 (Madeira) were defeated by the GOP establishment, which put big money behind their liberal/moderate candidates.

    Which is why when the national party calls me and my wife for money we tell them we will never give money to the national party ever again. Why give them money to use against the candidates we are supporting?

  • edintexas

    I guess you could call announcing to the world that the GOP refuses to support O’Donnell in the general election “Not jumping on the O’Donnell bandwagon,,,”

    What a bunch of spoiled brats, It will be a cold day when the national party, or the special committees, get a penny from me.

  • edintexas

    Castle voted for Cap and Tax. He threatened Bush with defunding the war. He voted for the bill to have the Judiciary Committee investigate bringing Articles of Impeachment against Bush. While his supporters claim this was the way to have the investigation disappear, this is also the proper way to proceed with Articles of Impeachment and if anyone believes that John Conyers could be counted on to kill an effort towards impeachment – there’s a bridge in Brooklyn I’d like to sell. While his ACU rating last year was 55, as some have pointed out he was preparing for an election, His ACU rating the year before (just after election) was 30, not exactly what I’d call a “conservative”, much less a Conservative. So why is there a “shouting match”?

  • Jack_Savage

    Send your money to Democrats. Or maybe Crist. More up your alley, it seems.

  • tlhanger

    Yes!

  • tlhanger

    You are so right. Run for an office somewhere-you stated it well!

  • tlhanger

    Out with the old!

  • etexfisherman48

    Finally others are seeing the truth about who the RINOS in the senate are and McConnell is a big one. I hope Republicans do regain the senate with a super majority but I encourage everyone to start demanding DeMint be the Senate Majority Leader instead of progressive McConnell. We must target Collins, Snow, Lugar, McCain, Graham and Hatch for elimination from the Conservative movement and replace them America First people instead of the Globalist First traitors that now exist in the Republican Party as mentioned above.
    Also in the House I would like to see Michelle Bachman as the House Speaker. What a contrast between her and Pelosi.

  • brojohn2

    I disagree with you on this one, the only reason this seat might go back to the democrats is because the national party will not put any money in O’Donell’s coffers. They are the ones saying she can’t win, I say with enough true Conservative backing she can and will win. The RINO’s in D.C. may not like it but it is time to retire them and put real people in their place.

  • cordpt

    That kind of ad hominem attack is not proper of a civilized person.

    It’s not over the top, it’s a realistic assessment. My biggest donations these cycle have been to Len Britton (and I hope to reach the max.) and I assume he has no chance of pulling out an upset.

  • cordpt

    People need to stop accusing anyone who’s sceptical about the chances of GOP candidate X or isn’t donating to GOP candidate Y of being non-conservatives, liberals and democrats just because they like candidates X and Y.

    Are you sending money to every Republican candidate Jack_Savage?

  • renny

    With this unexpected reversal comes new responsibility and the need to get her elected in Nov.

  • eburke

    losing the primary.

    The Republican voters in DE chose thier candidate. It wasn’t the one you wanted. Life goes on. Get over it.

    She’s *our* candidate now just like Mark Kirk is *our* candidate now. Either support her, or spend energy supporting some other Republican candidate that doesn’t nauseate you so much.

    But stop your bellyaching.

  • Jack_Savage

    “Anyway, no need for the Party or the conservative movement to be associated with politicians like Maes and O?Donnell.”

    THAT is what needs to stop. I would hardly call that “being skeptical about the chances of GOP candidate X”. And I will be sending money to every R candidate I can, starting with NC – 04 and working my way out in concentric circles.

  • brojohn2

    I do not understand, you are willing to support the democrats in DE? I am NOT willing that any Democrat win any race, even for dog catcher. O’Donnell won, get over it and support the candidate. John Cornyn will hear from me today I’ll tell you that. I am ashamed of the NRSC for writing off any seat. What idiots. I am Republican Party Chair for my county in TX, and Cornyn needs to wake up and smell the coffee. There are lots of good conservatives ready to run, as Kay Bailey will find out when she runs for re-election next time.

    It makes me sick to see so-called Conservatives run away from the Conservative candidate because some imbecile talking heads claim she or he cannot win. They can’t win if they are not supported, that is for sure. So, take that idea of “can’t win” and put it in your hash, O’Donnell may not be your cup of tea but she is our candidate and deserves our support to the fullest extent possible.

  • cordpt

    I’ve already said I support O’Donnell.

    Please, stop misrepresenting my positions. It’s getting old. Thank you.

  • JSobieski

    You don’t have to donate money, but if you impede others from doing so or persist in raising doubts all the time, you are helping to elect Coons.

    I would suggest that if the word “O’Donnell” appears in any of your postings that you are probably acting in a passive aggressive way.

    Coons is a marxist with a beard who ditched the beard but kept the marxism. Focus on Coons or focus on different races.

  • cordpt

    I was calling out the DeLay leadership when many where still supporting them because they were “conservatives”. If a conservative candidate or politician is hurting the bigger cause, I’ll call them out. Live with it.

    Anyway, that was written *before* the primaries results. O’Donnell won and now she has my full support regardless of what I wrote before the primaries.

    I’m not donating to her and I’m sceptical about her chances to win, that’s all. But I’m sure you’re sceptical about the chances of many other candidates and there are even more you won’t be donating to – and I won’t call you a democrat for that.

  • eburke

    “Anyway, no need for the Party or the conservative movement to be associated with politicians like Maes and O?Donnell”

    Your posts have been full of comments such as those since O’Donnell was declared the winner last night.

    Conspicuously absent from your comments has been criticism of Mike Castle for refusing to endorse his Party’s nominee.

  • cordpt

    And I mean after O’Donnell was declared the winner (obviously I raised many before that).

  • melatr7

    Good words!

  • etlib

    Sick & tired of GOP establishment giving up on conservatives before the fight. They’re the problem. If McConnell or other conservative candidates lose it will because of the failure of the establishment to support them not because they’re the wrong candidate.

  • cordpt

    I won’t accuse you of lying because you may be confused.

    That was written well before O’Donnell was declared the winner. As I’ve already explained in this thread. As the time-stamp indicates.

    I’m waiting for your apologies.

  • melatr7

    McConnell and Rove need to ‘stand down’. Calling someone ‘unelectable’ does not help the Republican OR Conservative base.

  • etlib

    “If McConnell or other conservative candidates lose”

    Of course I mean “O’Donnell” duh!!!!

  • Jack_Savage

    I am donating to and campaigning for B.J. Lawson here in NC, and he doesn’t have a chance in hell of winning. I am sure you have a definition of “the bigger cause”, and I am also sure I don’t care to hear it because I can look at both ends of Pennsylvania Avenue and see the results of the grand strategy of those so much wiser than me.

    If what you wrote and what you are going to do constitutes “support”, then I would prefer being in the foxhole with someone else. Live with it.

  • Jack_Savage

    Your posts would be a good example.

  • JSobieski

    while the polls where still open.

    I apologize as well. Sorry.

  • eburke
  • cordpt

    Maybe we should end with this primaries thing?

    Whatever, just don’t accuse me (or others) of doing things I (or we) didn’t do. Are we clear with this?

  • IJB
  • cordpt

    If you’re donating to some conservative candidates but not to all of them, we’re exactly on the same boat.

    It seems none of us is a millionaires and we need to pick up some guys to send our money to. Let’s just hope we’re making good choices.

  • Jack_Savage

    And making a decision on whether your “support” would be worth it. I have decided that it is not.

    Are we clear on that?

  • mikerazar

    nt

  • awunsch

    of the end of the RINO ruling class reps in dc. I think it is great what the American People are doing this year to reclaim their country, first by trying to reform the republican party. Hopefully by 2012, we will have pretty much returned the country and the republican party back to the traditional american country we used to be. Conservatives need to ignore those in the republican party that worry about party power( except to remember them when their turn comes up in elections) and continue to put forth conservative principles and fight the good fight.

  • cordpt

    You’re not the one who decides who I support or not, dude. Sorry for that.

  • acat
  • JSobieski

    nt

  • mikerazar

    Establishment republicans are reeling now. It is time to be conciliatory. We can’t win without the RINOs. That doesn’t mean conceding on every issue or candidate. But it does mean being polite.

  • Jack_Savage

    And certainly don’t care to decide. My point was, and if you were able to comprehend, always has been, whether “support” (as your writings have helped define) from people like you is worth seeking.

    It’s not. Thanks for helping make my point.

  • cordpt

    When you become a candidate, than you can decide to not seek my support.

    However, every candidate I met so far, including O’Donnell, do not share your opinion. Hey, maybe they’re all wrong and you’re right. It’s irrelevant though, whatever you think they should seek my support or not is absolutely irrelevant because it’s their decision… and, unfortunately for you, they choose to do so. Here’s hoping you can overcome this.

  • Jack_Savage

    Do they have a steel plate in their back to deflect your steak knife? Like I said, Einstein, they can do what they want. I just know what I would do.
    And I am sure, SURE, that they have been groveling for your support.

  • acat

    It is the time to be polite, the time to find those points on which we do all agree. Giving Harry Reid a retirement party, for example.

    It is not time to concede a single inch.

    Mew

  • acat
  • Achance

    that Neil blammed was no Republican. He was a moby that let his mask slip and started talking about “tea baggers,” and I started talking about his girlfriend and he went nuts, so Neil banned him.

  • acat

    West Virginia, mostly. Lousy cell signal and lots of road construction. With Byrd gone, they’d better hope the crews do the work right, it’s going to have to last a long, long time as the Fed funds will be drying up.

    To un-thread-jack – that one being a moby doesn’t mean there isn’t a segment of the GOP that can’t stand the “small minded religiosity” or “racial bigotry” of the Tea Party types. I believe, Mr. Chance, that you have your own reason to dislike them – they’ve adopted That Woman* as their patron saint.

    The point being, while I can’t produce quotes from inside politics, the fact is the Tea Party movement is counter-establishment, and as such is going to have a hard time winning over establishment republicans such as yourself.

    Mew

    * who I will not be voting for in any primary, should she decide to run for any office where I have a primary vote

  • alexpope

    You mentioned that in California, the “conservative” candidate lost in the Republican primary. That’s not true. Carly Fiorina is a pro-life conservative. Granted, she wasn’t the tea party candidate and she may not be purely conservative on every issue. But she is a conservative, and she can beat Barbara Boxer. Erick, you guys are doing a great job. Keep after ‘em!

  • MF

    She’s infinitely better than Babs Boxer, but she’s not nearly conservative enough for my blood. Chuck DeVore was FAR better. But that ship has sailed, and of course Carly will get my support and my vote come November.

  • Achance

    If you have a big tent, you’re going to get some clowns and wild animals and I can deal with that, though sometimes I feel more comfortable with a pistol, a whip, and a chair.

    My problem with some of the Tea Party types and, especially, with some of the Tea Party backed candidates is that they are completely inexperienced in government and politics and the candidates have had little or no public scrutiny. Now I certainly realize that experience is a two-edged sword; Potomac Fever is a virulent disease and there are outbreaks of it in every capital city. That said, we have several untested candidates in very high-stakes races where one mistatement or one skeleton in a closet can very literally effect our Nation’s future. I wish some of them had at least been elected dogcatcher before they ran for the state house, the legislature, or the Congress.

    Right now Democrat researchers are turning over every rock in Alaska and in his original home state of Kansas looking for something on Joe Miller, and, unfortunately, nobody in the Republican Party of Alaska knows if they’ll find anything and we’ll find ourselves desperately trying to hold a seat with write-in candidate just like we did, and failed, in ’98 because the other shoe dropped after our nominee was chosen. Maybe Rove knows some inside baseball about O’Donnel and that is why the normally taciturn Rove was so animated last night on Hannity.

  • ihateliberals

    the GOP’s days are numbered. there is a move of “We the People” to take back our country from the RINO’s and Liberals. The WTP is a group of Conservatives that believe in the Constitution and small government. If you stand in the middle of the road sooner or later you will be run over. We hve to get rid of the RINO’s. having a senate majority of John McCain’s is no better than what we have right now. There wil be no taking back our country with votes for RINO’s.

    The GOP had better wake -up soon or there wil be a new conservative party very very soon.

  • acat

    Candidates with skeletons are a problem.

    Candidates who know nothing about how government works are a problem.

    The combination may well be lethal…. but.

    If Rove knew something, he did nobody a service by keeping it to himself for the last three months, or by hinting about it now. Seriously, why wouldn’t Rove, if he really has something on her, shut up and use it as blackmail to keep her tied to the RINOs?

    Establishment big-government milquetoast candidates, though, are not an improvement – they represent largely the same problems their Dem peers represent, a decline into a Eurotrash socialist state – Greece without the beaches, history, and cuisine – only on a slower time table than the Dems would like. And that’s what we got through eight years of Bushies – and Rove was very much the insider there, eh?

    I don’t think I’m alone in saying that we’ve given the insiders a shot – and they gave us massive Republican losses, a dreadful POTUS nominee, That Woman*, and President Obama. .. It’s time to try something different.

    Mew

    * who still thinks that Palin may be a good Second Fiddle and Chief Bomb Thrower, but doesn’t think she’s near ready to headline.

  • Achance

    Especially in the Senate, they become a part of the most exclusive club in the World. Yet, so many of them think that they’re the ones who have to perform to the expectations of the courtiers. Those DC insiders would kiss a senator’s butt on the Capital steps and give him/her two weeks to draw the crowd if it got them something they wanted. But somehow, it is the politicians who get induced to kiss the DC insiders’ butts.

    That’s why I’ve long advocated here that the Republican Party abandon the BoWash axis of evil except as is necessary for votes and committee work. If they’re going to make news, they make it in their state or district not on MTP. Sucking up to MTP or This Week is what turns them into “establishmen milquetoast” officeholders.

  • acat

    We shared a table at a dinner in the lower 48 a couple months ago.

    It’d be a big help for RNC HQ were in Austin, TX or Spokane, WA instead of D.C. – and you cannot tell me that it couldn’t work that way.

    Were the RNC to decamp, it’d cause a number of the sycophants and hangers-on to be, as it were, starved out as they wouldn’t know what to do out in flyover country.

    Mew

  • Achance

    I saw it on TV, but I can’t remember who did it. She did her first finger jab at Juneau by having her inauguration in Fairbanks rather than in Juneau. Normally, a new Governor is inaugurated in Juneau, which is, despite Wasilla’s best efforts, still the Capital, then they have inaugural balls in the various towns and cities around the State. It’s pretty much the only time you’ll ever see a whole group of dressed up Alaskans, at least as dressed up is understood in most of the Lower 48.

    I didn’t go to the Inaugural Ball for her for the first time in many years. First, I didn’t feel very celebratory about her election, beat having Knowles again but this is the most I can say. Second, I have finally reached the exalted state where I can no longer wear my beloved “After Six” wool tux that I bought back in ’80 to wear to the Presidential Inaugural Ball in Anchorage. There are no more “let outs” left in it! I wouldn’t be caught dead in a rented tux and I didn’t want to go to Sarah Palin’s Ball badly enough to buy a new one.

  • acat

    I was impressed with her competence and the bits of her life story she shared with the table, but as I did not plan to correspond, I put her name in the mental round file.

    Mew

  • Achance

    Judge Steinkruger. I guess she’s a Fairbanks judge. I know the ones here in Juneau pretty well and a couple in ANC, but I almost never get to Fairbanks, so I hardly know anyone up there.

    Judges here apply to a citizen/bar committee called the Judicial Council. When a judgeship opens up the Council forwards its recommendations, three I think, to the Governor who then appoints subject to confirmation. They go on the ballot for re-confirmation by the electorate, but that has proven pretty meaningless. There’ve been a couple of campaigns to remove judges, but I don’t think one’s ever been successful, though a few judges have been chased from office and forced to resign; stuff like young boys or bad drinking/drug problems.

    As a general matter, Alaska judges run to the liberal side, but they’re smart and pretty straight. ‘Course, it is pretty wierd that there are now several of the lady lawyers I used to party with back in the ’80s, I now have to address in public as “your honor.”

  • mnroadwarrior

    If you want to see Rep.Bachman as Speaker it better happen this cycle (I am not in her district, can’t afford to move……please, God, let the census’s change of district boundaries put me in her district!) I have a sneaky suspicion she may be going after bigger fish in 2012: Amy Klobuchar will be up for reelection. Please, God, one more favor: let me live long enough to see Klobuchar and Frankenstein thrown out of office by conservative Repubs…………..which may only be in another 4 years! I think I can hang on that long!

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