If I may, I have a better pledge suggestion for the House Republicans. And to keep them happy, they can even make this pledge without mentioning earmarks.
Here goes:
We, the House Republicans, pledge to do only these things and limit ourselves to doing them in such a way that if normal, non-lawyer Americans cannot comprehend our actions as deriving from one of these then we shall deem the action beyond the scope of our powers and not do it. The things we shall do and only do are as follows:
The Congress shall have Power To lay and collect Taxes, Duties, Imposts and Excises, to pay the Debts and provide for the common Defence and general Welfare of the United States; but all Duties, Imposts and Excises shall be uniform throughout the United States;To borrow money on the credit of the United States;
To regulate Commerce with foreign Nations, and among the several States, and with the Indian Tribes;
To establish an uniform Rule of Naturalization, and uniform Laws on the subject of Bankruptcies throughout the United States;
To coin Money, regulate the Value thereof, and of foreign Coin, and fix the Standard of Weights and Measures;
To provide for the Punishment of counterfeiting the Securities and current Coin of the United States;
To establish Post Offices and Post Roads;
To promote the Progress of Science and useful Arts, by securing for limited Times to Authors and Inventors the exclusive Right to their respective Writings and Discoveries;
To constitute Tribunals inferior to the supreme Court;
To define and punish Piracies and Felonies committed on the high Seas, and Offenses against the Law of Nations;
To declare War, grant Letters of Marque and Reprisal, and make Rules concerning Captures on Land and Water;
To raise and support Armies, but no Appropriation of Money to that Use shall be for a longer Term than two Years;
To provide and maintain a Navy;
To make Rules for the Government and Regulation of the land and naval Forces;
To provide for calling forth the Militia to execute the Laws of the Union, suppress Insurrections and repel Invasions;
To provide for organizing, arming, and disciplining, the Militia, and for governing such Part of them as may be employed in the Service of the United States, reserving to the States respectively, the Appointment of the Officers, and the Authority of training the Militia according to the discipline prescribed by Congress;
To exercise exclusive Legislation in all Cases whatsoever, over such District (not exceeding ten Miles square) as may, by Cession of particular States, and the acceptance of Congress, become the Seat of the Government of the United States, and to exercise like Authority over all Places purchased by the Consent of the Legislature of the State in which the Same shall be, for the Erection of Forts, Magazines, Arsenals, dock-Yards, and other needful Buildings; And
To make all Laws which shall be necessary and proper for carrying into Execution the foregoing Powers, and all other Powers vested by this Constitution in the Government of the United States, or in any Department or Officer thereof.
Further, we believe the powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people.
Jeff Emanuel
Neil Stevens
It's really not complicated, is it?
scotteiland (Diary) Thursday, September 23rd at 7:29AM EDT (link)That 223-year-old document sure is helpful in times such as these.
“Our Constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate to the government of any other.”
– John Adams
Nope, its not complicated until the first budget vote requires that we defund Social Security etc unless
Mike gamecock DeVine (Diary) Thursday, September 23rd at 10:25AM EDT (link)we have already had a Constitutional Amendment ratified that gives Congress the power to establish same.
Mike DeVine’s Examiner.com and Charlotte Observer columns
“One man with courage makes a majority.” – Andrew Jackson
No, it's not quite so simple. nt
securitymom (Diary) Thursday, September 23rd at 10:58AM EDT (link)“Security Mom/Grandma”
Hear, Hear!
kdoc Thursday, September 23rd at 7:35AM EDT (link)n/t
Sadly, they still don't get it EE...
Vassar Bushmills (Diary) Thursday, September 23rd at 7:40AM EDT (link)…a serious matter to take up in 41 days once the Enemy is in retreat. For the time being what’s done is done. The Surge continues, with the official GOP lagging behind.
I’m much more interested in the “contract” that will emerge with our new conservatives, the Lee Atwater caucus, on board.
I think they do get it, but don't want to
Common_Cents (Diary) Thursday, September 23rd at 9:41AM EDT (link)Subtle difference. DC is a black hole that sucks you in, even the most well intentioned newbie gets assimilated by the machine. We have to change the machine. That will need a core group of new blood that acts quickly to change things before they can be sabotaged and brainwashed by the allure of a career of hobnobbing and cocktail parties inside the beltway.
The paper tiger, peter principle is alive and well in many large corporations as well. I sold my company to a fortune 200 years ago and after one year for transition, I couldn’t believe how a company like that could even stay in business!
We have to break down the social/culture thing of the elected elite.
The day we eliminate the possibility of a career of being a politician is the day we are truly free.
“Fathom the hypocrisy of a Government
that requires every citizen to prove
they are insured…. but not everyone
must prove they are a citizen.” -Ben Stein
“In individuals, insanity is rare; but in groups, parties, nations and epochs, it is the rule.”[especially in DC] – Friedrich Nietzsche
Wouldn't a repeal ObamaDem legislation pledge be better than
Mike gamecock DeVine (Diary) Thursday, September 23rd at 10:27AM EDT (link)taking on the unconstitutionality of Social Security, Medicare, Medicaid etc, just now?
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“One man with courage makes a majority.” – Andrew Jackson
Maybe and like Vassar said I'm looking
deano64 (Diary) Thursday, September 23rd at 12:10PM EDT (link)forward to a new “contract” with our new Conservatives we put in office. We have to continue to elect Conservatives who aren’t afraid to say what we need to do and then go do it.. The American people are ready to face these issues and back up our elected officials who are ready to take on the tough issues like these entitlements. It is chicken sh*t to not mention these things in their “pledge” but it’s an electiion year and they are afraid of all the pissed off retirees out there. I’m not saying it’s right but it’s politics.
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Alexis De Tocqueville
Purity issues aside
BA Cyclone (Diary) Thursday, September 23rd at 3:34PM EDT (link)The field is slanted in the favor of Republicans in general.
Politically speaking, the “pledge” merely needed to be an outline of “we are for” to counter the illogic of “party of no” and “what are the Republicans going to do?”
To that end, the pledge is way too long and frankly goes overboard. I think it can draw criticism in the sense that it makes broad strokes and appears specific but yet bland on conservatism.
However I would have been shocked, and potentially disappointed if this “pledge” was anything but vanilla – to be honest.
Again, the field is heavily slanted in our favor. I feel that the electorate would respect bold, simple conservatism – but the real issue (politically) with that is going to be getting that message beyond the MSM-lefty-statist echo chamber.
Where the conservatism comes into play is for us to NOT fade into the shadows in January 2011. Accountability.
“If Congress can do whatever in their discretion can be done by money, and will promote the General Welfare, the Government is no longer a limited one, possessing enumerated powers, but an indefinite one, subject to particular exceptions.” — James Madison
“Electing Republicans who don’t have the courage of their convictions may be easier in some circumstances, but it won’t save our country.” — Jim DeMint
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So True GC.
Vassar Bushmills (Diary) Friday, September 24th at 6:43AM EDT (link)KISS and they will come
...An even better, more succinct pledge.
kyle8 (Diary) Thursday, September 23rd at 7:46AM EDT (link)“I pledge to reduce the size, cost, and power of government at all levels, in all ways. “
“Nothing works like freedom, Nothing succeeds like liberty”
Kyle
radical
partyof1 Thursday, September 23rd at 7:51AM EDT (link)get a rope
Erick, you're just a fringe radical
RedBeard Thursday, September 23rd at 7:52AM EDT (link)According to the Oprah/Jon Stewart yardstick, at least. How can you be so incredibly stiff-necked as to expect Congress to actually honor, defend, and protect that Constitution thingie? That is just SO ancient, you know. Get with the program, man!
Standard-bearer for grouchy curmudgeonry since, oh, 1975 or so.
Yes he is! and he is MY kind of "radical"...
JadedByPolitics (Diary) Thursday, September 23rd at 7:58AM EDT (link)and he stands with 42% of the American public and you and I and Erick are going to show the lefties what a Conservative RADICAL can do on November 2nd
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Yeah, Erick, like, it IS so ancient, like.....
yoyo (Diary) Thursday, September 23rd at 3:08PM EDT (link)….like, those old dudes, like, WROTE it, in like, INK and stuff. With, like, big feather-looking things and EVERYTHING. I mean, like, I cannot even find it on, like, my Kindle, even.
My Dad, like, has a hard copy of this thing, on like, the book shelf.
You really expect us to , like, READ stuff?
…..sheesh.
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Well I think I will go with the full-time Army
Doc Holliday (Diary) Thursday, September 23rd at 8:01AM EDT (link)other than that, the pledge is pretty darn good.
Molon Labe!
But they still don't appropriate money for the long term
Fla Mom (Diary) Thursday, September 23rd at 8:07AM EDT (link)which is what it says, not ‘shall not maintain a standing army.’ Which is why we not uncommonly work off of continuing resolutions for the first part of the fiscal year.
Fla Mom
yeah that is how I read it too
Doc Holliday (Diary) Thursday, September 23rd at 9:31AM EDT (link)just wanted to be sure,I am not big on the militia, neither was George Washington.
Molon Labe!
fla, I know
Doc Holliday (Diary) Thursday, September 23rd at 9:36AM EDT (link)My comment was tongue in cheek. I have cracked a history book or two. I even know the Marine Corps history at Tun Tavern and the reaffirmation with the National Security Act of 1947
Molon Labe!
Sorry, Doc, I can be concrete (nt)
Fla Mom (Diary) Thursday, September 23rd at 11:21AM EDT (link)The Perfect Pledge, but.....
Wubbies World (Diary) Thursday, September 23rd at 8:05AM EDT (link)These Republican Establishment buffoons still don’t get it, and something this simple is beyond their comprehension!
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You stole my thunder, Wubbie
Fla Mom (Diary) Thursday, September 23rd at 8:09AM EDT (link)I was just about to lament that even our own side might not quite recognize the source of the words.
Fla Mom
Fla. Mom, my humble apologies.....
Wubbies World (Diary) Thursday, September 23rd at 8:43AM EDT (link)… I agree with you.
Those old guard republican establishment types have no clue to how pissed we are out here in fly over country. Even when they do come home, they hang out on the cocktail circuit instead of the coffee shops anyway. They also do not realize that they are one of the objects of anger because they don’t relate to ordinary people anymore.
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This pledge is exploitation
bigredone Thursday, September 23rd at 8:40AM EDT (link)The “leadership” put this out there now for only one reason.
They will sell the coming victories as a result of this great new pledge, and they think it will give them cover.
They are as cynical as they are dumb.
I could easily go with this guys one page pledge
Scope (Diary) Thursday, September 23rd at 8:55AM EDT (link)http://directorblue.blogspot.com/2010/09/critique-of-gops-new-pledge-to-america.html
I would bet
mkozikowski (Diary) Thursday, September 23rd at 9:00AM EDT (link)that most in congress would not even know where that pledge came from.
Certainly they haven’t read it in a long while.
Something tells me....
IronDioPriest (Diary) Thursday, September 23rd at 9:09AM EDT (link)Erick isn’t too keen on the GOP’s “Pledge”.
Seriously, we are gonna have to hold GOP feet to the fire until there is an almost entire changing of the guard, and those who remain understand that we expect adherence to the constitution.
It shouldn’t be a complicated formula for the politicians, but it is. I think they are so conditioned to behave and believe how they do, that the idea that millions of citizens would band together and tell them with one voice that the constitution is their one and only mandate seems surreal to them. They certainly have no clue how to respond to it – as evidenced by this pathetic “Pledge”.
“If we finally fail in this great and glorious contest, it will be by bewildering ourselves in groping for the middle way.”
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natlanthem (Diary) Thursday, September 23rd at 9:41AM EDT (link)Guys, seriously … the release of the new “pledge” is a good sign. Not because it identifies any meaningful change, but it means the establishment Republicans have moved into the next stage of their dealing with the change in the attitudes of their constituents.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/K%C3%BCbler-Ross_model
Remember, when organizations or groups are faced with dramatic change, their reaction is most often denial, anger, bargaining, depression, acceptance. It is unreasonable to think these people can turn on a dime. It does not mean we should change our policies, our desires or the demand for the change, but we should NOT think it is ineffective. We have seen the anger, we have seen the denial (sit down, shut up, TEA parties are useful idiots and extremists), but now the primary results are too obvious to deny and they have had time to move along the curve to bargaining, which is what the pledge is. They KNOW it is unsatisfactory, and they probably know it will also be rejected as a bargain, but it is human nature enough to expect them to try.
We just have to ignore it, be direct, active and persuasive, and stay the course.
I have one more suggestion
Kentucky Scott (Diary) Thursday, September 23rd at 9:41AM EDT (link)Additional Powers assumed by the federal government are only permitted under Article 5. If existing parts of today’s unconstitutional federal law need to remain in place, make them legal with super majority support … not by judicial fiat.
Article V
The Congress, whenever two thirds of both Houses shall deem it necessary, shall propose Amendments to this Constitution, or, on the Application of the Legislatures of two thirds of the several States, shall call a Convention for proposing Amendments, which, in either Case, shall be valid to all Intents and Purposes, as Part of this Constitution, when ratified by the Legislatures of three fourths of the several States, or by Conventions in three fourths thereof, as the one or the other Mode of Ratification may be proposed by the Congress; Provided that no Amendment which may be made prior to the Year One thousand eight hundred and eight shall in any Manner affect the first and fourth Clauses in the Ninth Section of the first Article; and that no State, without its Consent, shall be deprived of its equal Suffrage in the Senate.
555 - nt
Mike gamecock DeVine (Diary) Thursday, September 23rd at 10:29AM EDT (link)Mike DeVine’s Examiner.com and Charlotte Observer columns
“One man with courage makes a majority.” – Andrew Jackson
Things like this really hurt the GOTV.
earlgrey (Diary) Thursday, September 23rd at 10:39AM EDT (link)Voters get really mad when the tea party ideas are crushed. They may not admit to liking the tea party, but many of them believe in the principles of it.
Where to put resources now? Any ideas? I was thinking of givingt to NRCC, but thinking of switching to Senate Conservative fund. I appreciate suggestions.
the paragraph after "here goes"
jackhammer Thursday, September 23rd at 11:30AM EDT (link)is definitely written by a lawyer.
How about:
We promise not to be the type of Jacka**es who have been in the Congress and Senate the past 60 years on both sides of the aisle!
Or
We promise to freeze spending and taxes at their current levels until we run a surplus. Then we will not increase spending any more than the level of inflation exclusive of energy, and give you back any money that is left over.
of course I would like ot see them renounce earnmarks. Pass individual bills alone on their merits, renounce lobbyists, and pledge to spend our money as if it were their own (and they were poor).
Come on
caboose Thursday, September 23rd at 11:53AM EDT (link)Lets get on with winning this election in November. There is absoulutely nothing wrong what the republicans has just done in promulgating what their aims are once in the majority. For those who wanted them to publish more, I say it would take tens of thousands of pages, to list everything that needs to be done to correct the damage that has been inflicted by the socialist democrats since their taking the majority in 2007. Leave the bitching to the socialists. UNITE!
having spent the morning reading non-Redstate opinions on the Pledge, I think Erick is completely wrong
Dave_in_Fla (Diary) Thursday, September 23rd at 12:30PM EDT (link)Jay Cost weighed in, he likes it and thinks it will help the GOP message.
Newt Gingrich weighed in with full throated support for the Pledge.
Ralph Reed who helped craft the 1994 Contract weighed in and thinks the 21 pages is great because it addresses the core problem with 1994, it was a plan for 100 days, not 100 months.
Redstate is definitely in the minority within Conservative circles on this.
It has been noted that this document is crafted after the Declaration of Independence, which makes all the snide games to throw the Constitution in as the “alternate” an interesting exercise.
So I am puzzled why Erick is so animated over this thing. I don’t get it. I sounds like someone throwing a temper tantrum because he is getting link sausage for breakfast instead of patties.
I think Erick, and the chorus of negativity, is 100% wrong on this one. You are all having a Ted Stevens moment.
“If they were merely incompetent, then at least SOME of their actions would have been to the benefit of the country.” – Joe McCarthy
And Ace wrote a strong rubuttal to Erick
Dave_in_Fla (Diary) Thursday, September 23rd at 2:43PM EDT (link)I’ll let you all read it at your leisure, but I find myself nodding in agreement. I do strongly agree with his final assessment though…
“I don’t know what the h*** the revolutionaries have in mind when Obama has the veto pen. Like, you want us to propose stuff that isn’t going to happen just for the sake of validating you?
This grates on me, more than anything else.
Are we here to win f***ing elections and enact real, positive, tangible change, or are we here to spout cant and rhetoric and feel psychologically validated?
Let’s prioritize here, huh?”
“If they were merely incompetent, then at least SOME of their actions would have been to the benefit of the country.” – Joe McCarthy
I should clarify, Ace of Spades
Dave_in_Fla (Diary) Thursday, September 23rd at 2:44PM EDT (link)Not any of our Aces
“If they were merely incompetent, then at least SOME of their actions would have been to the benefit of the country.” – Joe McCarthy
Ace is like Oprah
itrytobenice (Diary) Thursday, September 23rd at 2:54PM EDT (link)Madonna or Elvis. No other name is necessary.
Proper grammar saves lives.
Let’s eat Grandma.
Let’s eat, Grandma.
Well, I felt bad, like I was slighting AceinTx
Dave_in_Fla (Diary) Thursday, September 23rd at 3:00PM EDT (link)I hate being rude, even unintentionally
“If they were merely incompetent, then at least SOME of their actions would have been to the benefit of the country.” – Joe McCarthy
Agreed .. the pledge seems good enough
Change Jar Conservative (Diary) Thursday, September 23rd at 3:35PM EDT (link)Reed makes the argument that one of the good things about the pledge is that it calls for both fiscal issues (including rejecting the overspending of Reid/Pelosi/Obama) and the social issues that often get ignored by some fis-cons.
I wish it did include a ban of earmarks, but that is something we will have to hold over their heads as a voting issue.
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"Conservative circles" do not include Newt Gingrich.
e_rowe (Diary) Thursday, September 23rd at 5:29PM EDT (link)Newt is left of center. He’s part of the problem conservatives are trying to solve. If he likes this pledge, that’s only more proof of how horrible it is.
And Ralph “compassionate conservative” Reed isn’t much better.
*rolls eyes*
Dave_in_Fla (Diary) Thursday, September 23rd at 6:14PM EDT (link)n/t
“If they were merely incompetent, then at least SOME of their actions would have been to the benefit of the country.” – Joe McCarthy
?
e_rowe (Diary) Thursday, September 23rd at 7:40PM EDT (link)Is this even debatable?
Who else fits in your idea of conservative circles? George W. Bush? Karl Rove? Mitt Romney?
If anybody with an R after their name fits the bill, and all we’re trying to do is keep going in the same direction we’ve been going for the past century, then what’s the point?
I suspect your definition
Dave_in_Fla (Diary) Friday, September 24th at 10:41AM EDT (link)of conservative circles is much smaller than mine. Good luck winning elections with yours.
“If they were merely incompetent, then at least SOME of their actions would have been to the benefit of the country.” – Joe McCarthy
Apparently so.
e_rowe (Diary) Friday, September 24th at 12:20PM EDT (link)If the goal is just to win elections without improving anything or changing the course we’ve been on for the past century, then we might as well define “conservative circles” to include everyone who can win, no matter how liberal they are, and rest on our laurels election after election gloating about our symbolic victories.
But if we actually want to accomplish anything, then our definition of “conservative circles” has to be something meaningful, whether we win or lose. And in that case we can’t be content with Republican victories without any reformation in the Republican party.
We don' need no stinking contracts
usteashirts (Diary) Thursday, September 23rd at 1:18PM EDT (link)…we have a Constitution, which is what Erick is trying to point out.
This contract smells like a gimmick to me, just as much as “yes we can” and “hope and change.”
Then I watch how the GOP is “angry” with Murkowski’s temper tantrum, yet allows her to retain her Energy chair position, even though essentially she’s already gone.
And who can forget Newt teaming up with Nancy Pelosi in those commercials for, what was it, global warming?
A GOP declaration of conviction would be much more valuable to me if I had already seen GOP leaders with conviction to begin with.
But alas, the same nancy-boys who so stunningly lost the battlefield are back again, with watered-down kool-aid. We drank it once, and woke up to BO.
They still need their “come to Jesus” moment, I’m afraid.
T.L.
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McCulloch v. Maryland
After Seven (Diary) Thursday, September 23rd at 1:50PM EDT (link)“This government is acknowledged by all, to be one of enumerated powers. The principle, that it can exercise only the powers granted to it, would seem too apparent,…that principle is now universally admitted.”
“We admit, as all must admit, that the powers of the Government are limited, and that its limits are not to be transcended.”
The Pledge to Nowhere has a Recipe that looks like this:
1 part – Enumerated powers
10 parts – Wickard v. Filburn (1942)
stir until pasty (When you can no longer see the Enumerated Powers, stop)
let sit 10 minutes then add:
1 teaspoon – Cost Cutting
3.6 Trillion parts – Big Govt. Spending
heat in a sauce pan at low temperature and let simmer
lastly add:
1/4 cup of Repeal
3/4 cup of Boehnercare
A pinch of Liberty for Flavoring
stir gently and serve
“The powers delegated by the proposed Constitution to the Federal Government, are few and defined. Those which are to remain in the State Governments are numerous and indefinite.” ~ James Madison
(Federalist 45)
Here's the problem...
rbiii (Diary) Thursday, September 23rd at 2:24PM EDT (link)I LOVE this pledge. It really isn’t a pledge at all, it’s called “following the Constitution’s original intent”.
All fine and dandy, but here’s the problem:
The rules have been in place for 220 years. The General Welfare clause has been expanded beyond all recognition. Progressives and Independents think the way things are now is how it was supposed to be from the beginning.
They’re wrong of course, but we haven’t educated enough generations on original intent for Erick’s pledge to mean anything to anyone besides Constitution loving, originalists like the majority of the people who read this blog.
If you think we’re going to be able to have an ideological debate in the next 40 days, and come to a conclusion, you’re nuts. In the mean time, the Democrat demagogues are going to be attacking the “extremists” (aka people who support following original intent) and we could let this very very important mid-term election slip through our fingers.
If we don’t get a HUGE shift in the House, this ideological debate is over. We’ll never get anywhere near getting back to following Article 1 Section 8 and a true limited government.
This bickering over a well-intentioned pledge that can actually provide, at a minimum, something tangible for candidates, pundits, canvassers, phone-bankers, etc to fall back on when challenged by some idiot Leftist or clueless independent out there in the real world, is going to kill out momentum.
Now is not the time to have this ideological debate. Now is the time to take back the House by any means necessary and this pledge can help that. Whining about it can only hurt that.
Is the Pledge perfect? No. Can we accentuate the positives in it and unify our messaging? Yes. Can we debate the finer points after Nov 2nd? Yes.
We are creating a problem around this thing that we don’t have to right now.
Come on guys get real
jrhode2873 (Diary) Thursday, September 23rd at 2:45PM EDT (link)Simply saying Congress should follow the constitution is nothing more than a childish platitude. What I see in the pledge and what I dont see coming from Erick or others bemoaning the pledge are two things: humility and practical solutions to problems. The pledge has its flaws but it is a step in the right direction.
Wait... back the bus up
RedBeard Thursday, September 23rd at 5:37PM EDT (link)Humility and practical solutions, fine. We can haggle over the best ways to arrive at a good result.
But it is hardly a childish platitude to demand that members of Congress follow the supreme law of the land. That is the very first thing members of Congress must do, before they take any other action of any sort on any matter. Period.
The Constitution is not a suggestion, nor is it optional.
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Of course...
jrhode2873 (Diary) Thursday, September 23rd at 7:19PM EDT (link)Congress is supposed to follow the Constitution. You do that by passing Constitutional legislation. You pass Constitutional legislation with humility (keeping in mind that Congress doesn’t always know best) and with practical solutions to address the problems of the day. Simply responding to the Pledge by quoting the powers of Congress from the Constitution seems to me to be nothing more than shouting a platitude without any substance or meat to the policy debates we are having in this country right now. For example, committing to ending TARP and the Stimulus is very good and is also very constitutional.
Republican Don't Know That One
megsmom (Diary) Thursday, September 23rd at 3:11PM EDT (link)I would wager a dime that if the republicans read this they would not even recognize it.
Maybe 2012 and 2014 we can find some one who knows what is in the Constitution and really wants to help make laws per the Consitution.
Also I am looking for some one who does not want to be Politically Correct. I feel that if Americans acted more like Muslim then no one would push us around and we would get back our country and the pride we once had. Plus the other countries would resepct us, because we stand up for what we believe in.
tea party caucus?
earlgrey (Diary) Thursday, September 23rd at 4:13PM EDT (link)I was a little uncomfortable with the formation of a tea party caucus, but this kind of weak response to what is nothing less than outrage across the nation, is so pathetic that I am reconsidering my earlier opinion.
Can a tea party caucus help keep these guys in line? How do republicans in tight races battle against the weakness of their would be leaders? They need some strength behind them. This isn’t it.
Another ironic post from Erickson
e_rowe (Diary) Thursday, September 23rd at 4:37PM EDT (link)Ron Paul is the only Republican who has a record of voting this way.
And this is no exaggeration. He’s the only one, without exception.
So when did this strict Ron Paul style constitutionalism suddenly become a good thing around here?
Any Red Staters who imagines that Boehner, Cantor, Ryan, Pence, or any other Republican leader would ever agree to limit himself to supporting bills that only exercise powers enumerated in the Constitution are kidding themselves. The same can be said of most of the candidates Erickson supported in GOP primaries.
Sorry but this is Founding Fathers style of
deano64 (Diary) Thursday, September 23rd at 6:44PM EDT (link)constitutionalism not Ron Paul style. Founding Fathers style of constitutionalism has alwasy been a good thing as long as I’ve been around here.
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“The American Republic will endure until the day Congress discovers that it can bribe the public with the public’s money.”
Alexis De Tocqueville
Care to elaborate?
e_rowe (Diary) Thursday, September 23rd at 7:43PM EDT (link)Are there any other federal office holders, 2008 presidential candidates, or potential 2012 presidential candidates, who only support legislation pursuant to powers enumerated in the Constitution?
Now I remember where I saw that document ...
wayneepalmer Thursday, September 23rd at 4:40PM EDT (link)…it was in a photo of what Obama uses for toilet paper.
True peace between two enemies has only ever been acheived when one side has utterly defeated the other…if you doubt this truth visit Nagasaki sometime.
And Bush before him...
e_rowe (Diary) Thursday, September 23rd at 4:45PM EDT (link)I’m guessing the White House janitorial staff has been well stocked on Constitution toilet paper for a very long time.
Good point, but.....
runner12 (Diary) Thursday, September 23rd at 4:49PM EDT (link)I think we need to applaud the step they have taken in the right direction and ensure that they follow through with it and expound upon it. We need to celebrate the small victories or we run the risk of either demoralizing ourselves or appearing to be a bunch of people who just like to criticize. It took a long time for our country to move away from the Constitution and it will take some time to bring it back. We need to unite now and deal with removing the true threats in Congress (ie progressives) and deal with the rest after Novemeberr. Unity does not mean absence of dissent, it just means that we are focused on the larger issue at hand. Our demeanor should be that of cautious optimism. Be positive, applaud the effort, and hold them accountable.
Amen
jrhode2873 (Diary) Thursday, September 23rd at 7:20PM EDT (link)Couldn’t agree more.
My bad
runner12 (Diary) Thursday, September 23rd at 4:53PM EDT (link)That would be November spelled with one “r”
Woot!!
sailingaway Thursday, September 23rd at 5:13PM EDT (link)The unfortunate part is, since they already take an oath of office, why aren’t they ALL doing that, already?
hoo ray
danmiles (Diary) Thursday, September 23rd at 7:05PM EDT (link)your response sir is why i am a part of this movement .it is such a shame that the republican elite do not see the truth.
the constitution forever repell the 16th and 17th
Rand Paul has a new commercial today "Rand's Plan"
sailingaway Thursday, September 23rd at 7:47PM EDT (link)Which is better than the pledge. It refers to a plan on his website which would also require adherence to the Constitution, and showing where the authority for a bill arises.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uVorVi8gCJM&feature=player_embedded