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Senate Republicans Yet Again Give Middle Finger to the Tea Party Movement

It is a story that superficially is about Jim DeMint.

He beat up his Senate Republican colleagues in an email the other day for what they did. Lisa Murkowski left the party to run as a write-in candidate against Joe Miller in Alaska after he beat her in the GOP primary.

Murkowski’s chief selling point is that she is the ranking Republican on the Energy and Commerce Committee. The Senate GOP could have stripped her of that position, but chose to keep her there.

This has given Murkowski a new attack against Miller, i.e. even the Senate GOP expects her to come back.

DeMint took exception to that.

National Review has done yeoman’s work getting Senators on record about how they voted. What they are finding is that pretty much every Republican Senator supports Murkowski.

Republican Senators are now attacking Jim DeMint for siding with the tea party movement.


I would take issue with that,” said South Dakota Sen. John Thune, No. 4 in the GOP hierarchy. He said DeMint’s statements are “overstating what happened. I think the Republican leadership is very much doing everything they can to help the Republican nominee in Alaska.”

Sen. Orrin Hatch (R-Utah) called DeMint’s pitch a “mistaken idea,” saying there “isn’t one sitting Republican in the Senate that isn’t supporting Joe Miller.”

Bond, an appropriator who has sparred with DeMint, said the South Carolina senator’s characterization was “totally inaccurate” and noted that Republican senators are raising money for Miller this week during his Washington fundraising rounds.

Tennessee Sen. Lamar Alexander, the GOP conference chairman, said simply that DeMint’s fundraising e-mail “speaks for itself.” But he expressed concerns about the fact that DeMint publicly aired material from a closed-door meeting.

“Our strong tradition in the Republican Conference is to have a free and open exchange and to keep that among ourselves,” Alexander said. “I’m always disappointed when some member of our conference decides not to follow that tradition. It makes it hard for us to be a team.”

These keepers of the status quo do not get it. They have sent a strong signal that what Lisa Murkowski did was perfectly acceptable. They do not care about Joe Miller. They can say they are supporting him, but it’s like supporting a nation at war through hand claps instead of action.

“I know from experience that trying to work within the system for 12 years has not yielded results —and our country is worse off [than] where it was when I got here,” DeMint said Tuesday. “The party is not going to mind what I do as long as I’m not effective.”

We need to stand up for Joe Miller and we need to stand up for Jim DeMint. The Senate Republicans have lost their way.

COMMENTS

  • http://www.neoavatara.com/blog neoavatara

    Look, I know the Senate is a elitist organization. And most of these people are likely friends with Murkowski. Fine. But Party before friendship. She lost, and move on.

    The tacit approval of Murkowski’s behavior shows what is more important to these elitists snobs: and it certainly is not the voters.

  • RedBeard

    Retirement is in order for quite a few of these obsolete “leaders” of the party.

  • http://itsaboutfreedom.proboards.com IronDioPriest

    Only the rare person not prone to the thirst for power can resist its seductive flavor.

    God bless Jim DeMint, and please Lord, favor the people, and let their will prevail over those who seek to thwart it.

  • http://www.ArchitecturalShots.com mdyou

    This kind of thing should be expected. These people aren’t going to change overnight. In fact, even if the election unfolds the way we all desire, it’s only the beginning.

    Let’s say we take the House and the Senate. The Rinosaurs will still be a problem, and the lobbyists will go nuts trying to sustain the status-quo. Conservatives are going to be on these people like white on rice every single day.

    As for our ‘new-hires’, we need to offer classes to them taught by really experienced people, regarding how to handle K Street. Those people scare me more than Pelosi ever did.

  • indylawyer

    Keep in mind that the Democrats are still only a single vote away from a filibuster-proof majority in the Senate. If Murkowski goes full-Crist or Spector and starts voting with the Dems, then lots of left-wing mischief can ensue during a lame duck session. While we may pick up some additional seats in the special elections in IL, DE & WV, those are all toss-ups at best. And even if we win one or more, every seat makes it tougher for the Dems to pass legislation by buying off enough Republicans to break filibuster.

    If we had 45 seats I’d be all for kicking Murkowski out. But the sad reality is that we still need her vote for a few months. Letting her keep her seniority for that time seems like an unpleasant but worthwhile price for keeping it.

  • bigredone

    The GOP Senators should remove her no matter what as a matter of principle which is in short supply on the minority side.

    Lisa Murkowosowosowoikski lied. She promised to support the GOP nominee. She isn’t. She lied.

    Remove Murkowoosoeosoowki.

  • glorious

    What is wrong with these people? They will NEVER get it, and frankly, I do not want this type of person “leading” me.

  • edwlstr

    If they would like to look behind them they might notice that, lately, no one is folowing. So they’re not leaders. Also, when tough action is required, you must be “out front” in order to lead, not somewhere hidden behind a closed door.

  • snopercod

    We need to get back to a time when Senators actually represented the best interests of their States.

  • Michael Dugas

    All of us have been aware that the republican Senate leadership is NOT conservative nor does it care what the voters think except during their own re-elections.
    We take the house, we make in-roads in the senate and we remove these scum bags as they come up for re-election. THAT is our only recourse. In the mean time we keep pounding these Republican Senators who are ignoring the people and constantly keep our voices buzzing in their ears until they figure it out or we get rid of them.

    Not being an overly violent guy myself I’d love to pop Cornyn in the nose myself but I’ll settle with moving him to the unemployment line come his turn.

  • rdelbov

    that Jim DeMint and his fellow republican senators at are crosshairs.

    1. DeMint opposed fellow senators for re-nomination in Ak & UT. That’s nearly without precedence. In +30 years I can only remember Bob Smith (2002) having any fellow senators oppose him for renomination. Everytime a GOP walks down the hall and sees DeMint they have to wonder if they are next.

    2. DeMint has set himself up as a man NRSC. Actually more then a one man NRSC as he actively raised money and campaigned for candidates. Actually more then NRSC. Contrary to some urban myths the NRSC only endorsed Crist this year. The NRSC may have encouraged or recruited Blunt-Portman-Ayotte-Norton-Carly F-Boozman among others but it only endorsed Crist (made a PAC primary contribution/ in house support) So DeMint actually went beyond what the NRSC normally does.

    I don’t make any judgement on Lisa M. I deplore her doing a write in.

    I also think there is much good in what DeMInt is doing but I don’t expect his fellow US senators to hung and kiss him.

    I fully expect the MSM to run daily stories on this situation to try to divide us. Lamar Alexander and DeMint may jab their elbows a bit but both are united against Obama.

    34 days folks–I don’t want to waste a lot effort now on anything but Joe Miller winning.

  • fpete13527

    Thune just joined the zero list along with the rest of those zeros listed.

    Murkowski is scum. She will do damage no matter where she is.

    The GOP RINO core translates that to having to keep lying liberal progressives in place and never take a stand.

    50 to 75 % of the the current GOP Senate still doesn’t get it that they are unacceptable.

    50 to 75% of the current GOP senate needs to be thrown out……yesterday

  • maddog

    What is John Thune thinking? If he is seriously considering a bid for the White House, he has to see what is going on with the base and grass roots. How does he expect to win a primary if he stays with those who lost theirs?

  • Tbone

    Good. I hope it get to the point where they soil themselves. I know they will if Sarah Palin is walking with him.

  • Tbone

    that if Thune wants to be President he better quit kissing RINO butts.

  • hoootie

    I am sick and tired of status quo. It ain’t workin’. If I see just one more bashing in the Republican Party of another “new” Republican or a person who won from the Tea Party, I WILL go to the Board of Elections and change my party affiliation immediately. The days of the “good ol boys” network are over. Deal with it ! This lunatic from Alaska….sit down and shut up !.You were defeated fairly and squarely. Quit whining like a pitiful democrat. Mr. Castle, the same goes for you,,,sit down and shut up ! You people aren’t interested, nor do you care about the American people. All you care about is your sorry ego’s. You need to get over yourself and find a new career. You have worn this one down to a nub. That’s why you were voted out. So stop this nonsense. All you will end up doing is splitting the party and ruining the chances of the “new” folks winning !

  • jenniferjmilleresq

    That’s what happens when someone speaks the truth where it hasn’t been spoken in a long time. I read Sen. Murkowski quoted lauding the days when Senators could disagree during the day and join each other for “potluck” at night. Honestly, who cares about your stupid potluck?!!! That D.C. club is bankrupting our country and all she can talk about is collegiality (translate, friendly corruption).

  • earlgrey

    Certainly that has to be entering their mind. Some of these guys will be facing election in the upcoming years. What better way to bolster Republican enthusiasm in the elections than by getting rid of big spending, dead weight republican senators? They want no part of the tea party.

    Alexander is one of my Senators. My volunteer efforts gave me a chance to meet the Senator and all I told him was that I was tea party member working within the party. They need to know that we are not going away.

  • Finrod

    I’ll steal ColdWarrior’s line here and suggest instead of dropping out of the Republican Party, become a precinct committeeman instead. Then you get a local vote in how the Republican Party is run.

  • The_Rebel

    in Delaware, as she would be seated immediately and would negate any shenanigans by Murkowski.

  • deano64

    they fear the most because that’s who they attack. They attack DeMint and other like minded Conservatives because they scare them to death.

  • mkozikowski

    This is just the beginning.
    In two years we get another opportunity to continue our Governmental Re-Org.
    Then in two years we get another.

    So, those tired out, status quo, “moderate” Senators will be fighting for their carriers. And we will see more gnashing of teeth. Waving of false flags. And baseless promises.

    the fun part will be that after this year, there will be less of the “Old Boy” “Back Benchers” around to protect them.

    And we will once again see the Government “Of the People”

  • tomato

    Not just party before friendship, but the voters before the party. The GOP chose a primary system, therefore the voters who declared GOP at the ballot box are the shareholders. The party is made up of voters, participants.and their voice, their votes, are heard and counted.

  • ocleverone

    And they should be worried.

    Jeez, I thought the voters tossing Lisa M would have given these clowns a wake up call.

  • spinoneone

    and, as we have seen, is quite capable of defeating the “establishment” candidate. Sure, most of us lean right politically, but we are most definitely against “status quo ante” on both sides of the aisle, Senate and House. Compromise equals surrender when RINOs cooperate with the Socialist/”Progressive” Dems. Enough already!!

  • msctex

    Could it be the Founders had some idea of what they were doing, and why? Senators represent State interests, and Representatives the People’s. And it should be noted which is the “higher” body.

    To take the history of this nation, and note the men who sought and succeeded in altering and undoing the Constitution’s intentions, is to create a roll call of those responsible for the absurd situation wherein we find ourselves today.

  • http://kindlingforcandles.wordpress.com/ INC

    then this was such an unsmart thing to do. It indicates he is myopic to what has been going on with Tea Parties and the GOP grass roots.

  • http://kindlingforcandles.wordpress.com/ INC

    as two senators who went “on the record” as opposing Murkowski retaining her status.

    Only three, three! senators went with the voters! This is deplorable.

  • natlanthem

    The vote in favor of retaining Murkowski is unforgiveable. Those guys are now TARGETS. The next steps should be:

    - Work to support all the current conservative crop you can
    - Stay connected with the freshmen congressional additions
    - Penetrate voting positions in BOTH parties, but focus on Republican
    - Identify, encourage and train solid conservative candidates for 2012
    - Identify and support a TRUE conservative presidential candidate in 2012
    - Stockpile donations for the campaigns
    - Work with early stage prospects in business, city and state govt for 2014 possibilities
    - Vote out the targets in 2012/2014

  • http://kindlingforcandles.wordpress.com/ INC

    that I hope to hear about others. On reading the NRO column it is unclear to me as to whether or not they have yet been able to contact everyone.

  • http://www.gmsplace.com/ civil_truth

    Voting with the Democrats will gain her a cushy appointment come January.

    Worse, the Republican leadership has given other departing senators the green light to side with the Democrats. And no reason for those returning to stay on the reservation.

    Just more spineless leadership; they should admit they have no cojones and walk around with this famous sign on their backs: Kick Me

  • runner12

    The people of his state should be proud to have him as their senator. We need more like him who are about principles and not about politics and ego. For too long, we have been hoodwinked by RINO’s, who say one thing and do the opposite. The people of Alaska, Delaware, and Florida must stand up and vote for the true conservatives and ditch the establishment Republicans. We need true conservative change in our government and a return to Constitutional principles, not career politicians who simply want to retain their power.

  • chihank

    Before AK and DE, I thought DeMint was just a back bencher. However, he has stepped up to the plate in backing O’Donnell when Rove and Charles K. declared her to be a disgrace. I also appreciate DeMint calling out his fellow Senators for excusing Lisa Murky’s 3rd party bid. Its amazing that the GOP establishment will aggressively go after Christine O’Donnell, but treat a proven turn coat like Lisa Murky with “civility”.

  • kestrel

    Six senate vacancies were filled by appointment since 2008, and the law in three of those states (WV, DE, and IL) requires that the elected replacement be seated immediately. Also Republicans in CO will push for Ken Buck?s immediate seating if/when he wins the seat formerly held by Ken Salazar, who is now Obama?s Interior secretary.

    http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748704062804575510071460724174.html

  • azgirl

    and told them that I supported him and his efforts. His staffer said that they have been receiving many negative comments from people, and it hasn’t been easy. So call his office and show your support.

    In addition, I called McCain and Kyl’s office and told them that this action was totally unacceptable. Kyl’s staffer argued with me, and told me that she deserves to keep her post until her term expires. I told him that she lost that right when she decided to abandon her party and the voters of her state, and become a write-in candidate.

    It proves again…these Senators aren’t listening….

  • Warrior
  • indyjohn

    think of themselves as members of an elite fraternity. Their first instinct is to rally around one of the ‘bro’ when he gets in trouble. Their loyalty to each other is more important to them than the opinions of the people they have taken an oath to serve. It’s very sad – and a direct result of the repeal of the 17th Amendment.

  • indyjohn

    I meant to say ‘a direct result of the passage of the 17th Amendment’. Or ‘a direct result of the repeal of Section 3, Clause 1 of the Constitution’. Brain cramp.

  • markvol

    so much, after the people in AK spoke, then they need to be cleansed,
    also. All the sore losers need to find other jobs instead of becoming liberals. If any of them side with the Dems during a lame duck session, they kill two things: their careers, and the country!
    Shame on them.

  • tomato

    I was browsing on another tab, wiki and the 17th Amendment at the very time I posted my reply. Tempted to mention it, I wanted to keep my point simple.

    I’m glad you did.

  • kestrel

    with me. He has guts and is unafraid to address innumerable serious issues that make the establishment ostriches and RINOs thoroughly queasy. And he does it with common sense and good humor.

    From his website on 9/22: “Senator Jim DeMint… was joined by 12 other Senators to introduce the REINS (Regulations from the Executive In Need of Scrutiny) Act.”

    You’re right, Chihank, DeMint’s backing O’Donnell when he did took guts. I was already impressed with him. That cemented it. In fact, I remember where I was (grocery store parking lot) when I heard about his endorsement of O’Donnell on Mark Levin’s show. I sat in the parking lot listening to the interview instead of going into the store.

  • aesthete

    The incumbency re-election rate will still be ~80-90%. Something needs to keep incumbents in line with the agenda, and the randomness and persistence of successful challenges is one of those things.

  • Robert Allen Leeper

    I hope he runs for president in 2012.

    But we can do better.

    According to what is overall a puff piece by Stephen Hayes in the Weekly Standard, http://www.weeklystandard.com/articles/dakota-dreaming, he voted for TARP, and is a supporter of earmarks. Also troubling is his support for mandatory country-of-origin labeling for fruit, meat, and vegetables, according to the Hayes article, which suggests it was important in his 2004 defeat of Daschle.

    On Hannity last night, when asked about reducing spending he launched into an almost incoherent (or at least unhelpful) spiel about reforming the legislative budgetting process.

    We’re not going to get another Reagan, but just maybe we can get a Rubio.

  • Robert Allen Leeper

    challenge by Al (Let’s Stay Socialist Together) Green?

  • snowsoul

    Lisa Murkowski’s youtube page and one of her video pages. Unfortunately, I’ve been banned from commenting on her channel or any other video. Sure, I pointed out her daddy appointed her to that senate seat and how she doesn’t care what the voters want, but I also pointed out the good – That they can spell her name right.

    Either way, these republicans are becoming increasingly more annoying. Too bad someone couldn’t take the republican leadership from McConnell, like Jim DeMint. Oh well.

  • chihank

    CNN/Time / Opinion Research has the AK Senate race closer than Rasmussen.

    Lisa Murky says she’ll still align with the GOP if she wins. Yeah right. Murky is getting money from the NEA.

    We need to demand all GOP Senator leaders to take strong stands against Murky.

  • jenniferjmilleresq

    Now to replace Lindsey Graham in 2014…can’t come soon enough!

  • chihank

    Murky has leads among the low income, women, and seniors.

    With so many Dems backing her, why would Murky caucus with the GOP?

  • jeffreywturner

    Pretty good chance that she does not get 40+% of Alaskans to:

    (1) support her
    AND
    (2) put in the effort to write-in her name
    AND
    (3) spell her name correctly

    Now it isn’t impossible (ie: Strom Thurmond won a race this way 56 years ago), but it is highly improbable.

  • clement

    ?Our strong tradition in the Republican Conference is to have a free and open exchange and to keep that among ourselves,?

    Can anyone explain that to me? If they are “free and open” why are you keeping it to yourselves? Maybe it is just me….. :/

  • constitutionalconservative

    Look for whom the establishment fears– and that is who we should support.

    The behavior of the Senate Republicans on this is disgusting and beyond counterproductive.

  • chamberD

    . . . than they deserve, indyjohn:

    “Their loyalty to each other is more important to them than the opinions of the people they have taken an oath to serve.”

    If loyalty were their motive, we might be tempted to grant them some slack, however harmful to our COUNTRY such ‘loyalty’ — in truth — IS.

    NO. Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on me. You can attribute to them the virtue of loyalty; but I SEE in their actions that the establishment means to protect its power-sharing turf at all costs: let the voters be damned, and to hell with the pro-life base! Why, no one in these enlightened, post-modern days gives a hoot about morality: Morality is anything that works, anything that catches the ear of a decadent and degenerate, oh yes, and sophisticated, educated populace!

    Any rallying-around these people engage in is a rallying-around to circle the wagons to protect their power from the growing — and righteous — anger of a ONCE free people, now so burdened with DEBT that we are slaves to the state.

    And I BLAME the Republican Party for its decades-long practice of campaigning to the right and governing from the Left. The Republican Party can go down in flames for all I care — when even its most promising ‘up-and-coming’ — Sen. Thune, FAILS to stand BOLDLY with Sen DeMint.

  • chamberD

    IT’S THE ENTITLEMENTS, STUPID!

  • chamberD

    I almost sent $$ to Thune’s campaign coffers!!

    To Thune: DeMint is our standard bearer in the Senate (with Jeff Sessions deserving of honorable mention); you ‘placate’ us at your political peril. It’s time for an ABOUT-FACE.

    OPPOSE LIBERALISM wherever it exists. If Thune doesn’t have the stomach for it, we’ll find someone who does.

    Are you listening, Chris Christie??

    2012 ticket: Christie/DeMint

  • annas

    Has just lost any possibility of my support for a presidential run! (not that he cares, but there are more like me I bet)

  • acat

    given some of the RINOs we can’t retire before 2014 we need DeMint to stay right where he is, only with a bigger club and a new pair of RINO-stompin’ boots.

    Mew

  • acat

    What’s she gonna do, run for Senate when the other seat rolls around?

    Mew

    p.s. if Art Chance is reading this, that up there is a good idea… get Lisa M to step aside, and endorse Miller then – about Nov. 10 or so – start the campaign to unseat the other Dem….

  • NHConservative0227

    I would support DeMint over Palin for POTUS if he ran. The main reason is how DeMint has stuck to endorsing real conservatives while taking all kinds of heat for it. The article mentions in a negative way how he endorsed Ovide over Ayotte in NH, but lost.

    That was a defining battle for me in which I was very upset that Palin endorsed the much more moderate/establishment pick in Ayotte. Just like she endorsed McCain and Fiorina in the primaries.

    I am by no means a Palinista or Palinbot. I do like her story and view her as being more honest then most of the establishment politicians. I relate to the way she got involved in the PTA, then local politics and kept rising through the ranks. I give her high marks for challenging the establishment GOP in Frank Murkowski and fighting the oil companies. Also, she’s been constantly criticizing Obama over the last 2 years which shows she’s been trying to stop his radical agenda.

    As to her spending as governor, both you and azeroprof sp?? did a great job breaking that done. There’s obviously some room for debate as to how to interpret the numbers, but as it was pointed out Daniels spending was either much higher or similar depending on which numbers from Alaska you look at.

    I’d take her over usual suspects in Huckabee, Romney, and Gingrich. I don’t know much about Daniels or Barbour. I like Cain but need to know about him as well.

    So yes I’m leaning Palin now but by no means is it set in stone.

  • NHConservative0227

    I would support DeMint over Palin for POTUS if he ran. The main reason is how DeMint has stuck to endorsing real conservatives while taking all kinds of heat for it. The article mentions in a negative way how he endorsed Ovide over Ayotte in NH, but lost.

    That was a defining battle for me in which I was very upset that Palin endorsed the much more moderate/establishment pick in Ayotte. Just like she endorsed McCain and Fiorina in the primaries.

    I am by no means a Palinista or Palinbot. I do like her story and view her as being more honest then most of the establishment politicians. I relate to the way she got involved in the PTA, then local politics and kept rising through the ranks. I give her high marks for challenging the establishment GOP in Frank Murkowski and fighting the oil companies. Also, she’s been constantly criticizing Obama over the last 2 years which shows she’s been trying to stop his radical agenda.

    As to her spending as governor, both you and azeroprof sp?? did a great job breaking that done. There’s obviously some room for debate as to how to interpret the numbers, but as it was pointed out Daniels spending was either much higher or similar depending on which numbers from Alaska you look at.

    I’d take her over usual suspects in Huckabee, Romney, and Gingrich. I don’t know much about Daniels or Barbour. I like Cain but need to know about him as well.

    So yes I’m leaning Palin now but by no means is it set in stone.

  • NHConservative0227

    and expressed my disgust. I think he was on Hannity last night posing as a real conservative too!

  • NHConservative0227

    and expressed my disgust. I think he was on Hannity last night posing as a real conservative too!

  • aesthete

    It was azaeroprof and I who had that particular discussion. We settled on the fact that the AK operating budget rose 25-30% in the two years that she was in, and that the appropriate question to ask was to what extent this increase could be blamed on Palin. We also tossed some general questions about regarding the comparability of AK to the federal government/state governments in the continental US, how good she was on regulation, and some other qs. IN’s operating budget didn’t increase nearly as much as AK’s (in fact, factoring in inflation, growth of government in IN was virtually zero). Again, one can ask to what extent Daniels’ being governor played a role, but one cannot dispute that this happened.

  • JSobieski

    Of all the skills and values a President needs, do you really want to factor who Palin endorsed vs. who DeMint ednorsed to determine who you support?

    We aren’t talking about the head of the RNC here, we are talking about the President of the US.

  • JSobieski

    nt

  • http://pocketchangeproductions.net/ anotherindyfilmguy

    Change or Hope…

    1. Be part of a better future (or at least help with the TEA party’s attempt at making the city on the hill a brighter place).

    2. Be part of a disgraceful past and continue work towards destroying the country through “business as usual” political b.s. etc.

    3. Continue with the country club elitism thinking and acting like they’re “in with us” while really cutting deals with the left as the left play all of us for chumps.

  • AKSteveB

    and I can’t think of another governor who has successfully taken on the public employee unions to the extent he has, and this may well be the defining economic issue for the next few years.

  • seattle_ite

    …is Alexander stating that the conference welcomes free and open debate, which we prefer to keep among ourselves.

    W.T.F.??????

    Free and open means just that; if it isn’t meant to be shared with us “peons”, then discuss it at the 19th hole, not the conference committee, jerk.

  • JSobieski

    but I was paraphrasing some criticisms expressed on this site

    I am a big Daniels fan. I wish he hadn’t made that “truce” comment to purposely shoot himself in the foot.

  • seattle_ite

    …falls flat with me. Experience in what, exactly? Backstabbing your base? Throwing the platform under the bus? Screwing the taxpayers, yet again???

    I’ll take a not-so-well-spoken newbie with actual principles over and ‘experienced statesman’ like McLame, any day.

  • JSobieski

    If you are talking legislature, I agree with you. You only need a couple of people who know the rules and understand certain procedural tricks. Everyone else could be a newbie.

    If you are talking executive power, then we disagree. Particularly President of the US.

  • ffleonard

    If the American people don’t wake up, we will have nothing left to fight for…both political parties are just like labor unions…they do what’s in the best interests of the parties…the people and what’s really important to the people take a back seat to the agenda of those in power…once in a while they throw us a bone to keep us from getting to upset…the people have come close with the TEA Party movement, but make no mistake about it, both the Dem Party and GOP are doing everything they can to quiet the beast created by the TEA Party movement…

  • aesthete

    He ended mandatory public-employee union dues in his state, rescinded collective bargaining rights for state employees, and lives to tell the tale. Him and Gary Johnson (probably Barbour too, but I haven’t looked as closely) both have extensive experience dealing with the public employee system, and have largely done a good job in facing them down.

  • JSobieski

    http://www.cato.org/pubs/pas/PA668.pdf

    http://www.cato.org/pubs/pas/pa-624.pdf

  • aesthete

    and generally appreciate their research. Their report card on governors is certainly a good place to start when researching the fiscal conservatism of governors. However, much like Heritage’s Index of Economic Freedoms, there are just so many subjective aspects to Cato’s ratings that it makes ratings less than authoritative. For example, in my opinion, Cato tends to put too much weight on tax cuts, and doesn’t care what kind of tax cuts they are: a Democratic governor who increases government moderately while passing some targeted tax cuts and a tax credit bill for people who don’t get taxes can (and has) gotten fairly favorable ratings as a result, while a Republican who keeps government growth to a minimum but doesn’t concentrate on tax cuts would get the same score as the Democrat. To me, that’s an odd choice: not only are tax cuts politically popular (moreso than cutting government), they also put Republican governors at a disadvantage, for the reason that their states likely have low tax rates anyways, and even lower tax rates would be irresponsible, or literally a form of welfare (see “tax credits”). Then there’s the fact that an increase in legitimate government spending (more law enforcement in a law-free region) is seen in the same light as spending money on a crucifix in urine: an absurd way to measure spending, even by libertarian standards. I don’t remember what my qualm with its ratings vis a vis regulation was, but I remember thinking that they didn’t put enough emphasis on it.

    This might have been done to allow Democrats to look more favorable (to throw Dems a bone or to make Cato look more “non-partisan”); I’m not really sure. It is in many ways more a rating of the state, legislature, and the state’s history as a whole than a measure of marginal change, which would be more useful, IMO. Whatever the case, it is more useful for looking at extreme outliers (Huck getting an “F” from Cato should be an indicator) than as an end-all, be-all measure.

  • drfredc

    When the NRSC called a day or two ago, I told them I’ve given up on the establishment LOSERship (in those words) of the Senate and was donating directly to candidates of my choice or thru Club for Growth. And hung up…

  • JSobieski

    taking out mandatory public union dues
    pension reform at the state level
    health care reform (HSAs) for government employees
    privatizing previously public assets

  • seattle_ite

    Of course, I meant in the Legislative branch. Obama is an inexperienced hack, and that’s the least offensive of his many flaws.

    OTOH, if an inexperienced hack like Obama can become POTUS, then I don’t want the CONgressnerds to be griping about inexperienced candidates. Fair is fair, after all.