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The First World War Ends on Sunday

By: Erick Erickson (Diary)  |  September 29th, 2010 at 05:00 AM  | 

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This is a random way to start your morning, but it is also something I bet you did not know.

On the eleventh hour of the eleventh day of the eleventh month of 1918, the guns fell silent across Europe with the cease fire concluding the hostilities of World War I.

But Germany has continued pay for First World War under its obligations of the 1919 Treaty of Versailles.

This coming Sunday, Germany will make it last payment under the terms of the war reparations thus fully and finally closing the books on the War to End All Wars.

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  • http://www.2010blog.net jsanzone

    “Under my presidency, the most vicious war in all history has come to an end.”

  • RedBeard

    I’m sure the thought actually crossed the mind of our Narcissist-in-Chief. He probably only rejected the idea of taking credit because it wouldn’t fit with the overall theme of his World Apology Tour.

  • RedBeard

    Need more coffee, plus edit/delete buttons.

  • holystone

    for Woodrow Wilson.

  • http://www.neoavatara.com/blog neoavatara

    He will apologize to Germany for making them pay restitution. You never know.

  • Darin_H

    It was only a couple of years ago that we stopped taxing for the Spanish-American War.

    Up next, WWII…

  • throwback59

    I never knew Germany was still paying after all these years. I learn something on Red State every day.
    I believe the figure that Germany owed was 30 Billion.If it took approx. 90 years to pay off that debt, how long will it take for the US to pay off the
    10 trillion Obama is giving us?

  • http://www.redstate.com/etcartman Kenny Solomon

    Where’s the money been going ?

    Would love to see the accounting on all this, especially what’s what from the time after ‘The Wall’ came down.

  • indyjohn

    that the Korean War is not officially over. Open hostilities ceased with an armistice, but neither side was able to claim victory and a serious threat of resumption still exists. The psychopathic North Korean leadership has never given up the dream of conquering the rest of the peninsula. So the zone between the two Koreas remains the most heavily fortified border in the world.

  • zollistar

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    And I assume that the WWI debt was repaid in what is, in effect, depreciated currency (which is what inflation truly is: currency depreciation).

  • http://www.redstate.com/etcartman Kenny Solomon

    The German government will pay the last installment of interest on foreign bonds it issued in 1924 and 1930 to raise cash to fulfill the enormous reparations demands the victorious Allies made after World War I.

    France and Britain needed the reparations to repay their own debts. Both countries had borrowed vast sums from the US during the war.

    ——————

    The interest is being paid….. Now what about the bonds themselves, or am I just missing something ?

  • RedBeard

    Even though a “peace” accord was done with Florida’s governor 40 years ago, the U,S. government has never done so. The opportunities for The One to use this as part of his stagecraft are endless, including apologies, bowing, claiming success in the Great Seminole Wars, etc.

  • Dan McLaughlin

    IIRC, that was when the USSR and Japan formally concluded a treaty ending hostilities.

  • http://mrnewyorkcity.blogspot.com lifeofthemind

    Europeans are still paying for WW I. Everyone is still paying for it.
    For the destruction of faith and loyalty to God and tradition and nation.
    For the destruction of the loyal patriotic decent leadership of England at the Somme.
    For the rise of controlling organizing technocratic governments.

    We will never stop paying.

  • http://theminorityreportblog.com Repair_Man_Jack

    First they fire Bowden, now this!

  • johnconradarens

    …When a Southern (formerly Democrat) Senator (Strom Thurmond) cast a deciding vote to confirm Clarence Thomas (a black Southerner from Pinpoint, Georgia) for the United States Supreme Court.

    It is laughable that our Nancy-boy president thinks by waving his majestic hand the war in Iraq is over. Actually, the War in Iraq is a convoluted continuation of Woodrow Wilson’s policies, and our involvement there won’t end in this generation, or the next. These things, as noted in this tidbit by Erick, take many generations to resolve. If even then.

  • http://www.examiner.com/x-1597-Charlotte-Law--Politics-Examiner Mike gamecock DeVine

    It ain’t over yet….smile

  • blooch

    was a flamboyant showman of mixed blood who renounced his Caucasian heritage with a vengeance.

  • blooch

    Not that anybody drinks much tea in a sports bar.

  • Doc Holliday

    .

  • mikerazar

    “They hired the money , didn’t they”.

    How do you say that in Chinese?

  • Doc Holliday

    Ted Turner, the tomahawk chop thing stolen from FSU, those Yankees do have a point :)

  • blooch

    Of course, there’s always Cocola…or maybe in your case Pepsi. I first fought the cola wars with my SC cousins forty years ago. That war’s not over, either.

  • http://theminorityreportblog.com Repair_Man_Jack

    Have you ever asked the local chapter of The Black and Gold Club to turn off the Gawddam Stillers so you could see the Atlanta Falcons on the big-screen? I haven’t. I don’t trust ObamaCare.

  • http://theminorityreportblog.com Repair_Man_Jack

    Have you ever asked the local chapter of The Black and Gold Club to turn off the Gawddam Stillers so you could see the Atlanta Falcons on the big-screen? I haven’t. I don’t trust ObamaCare.

  • RedBeard

    Real men drink it straight.

    We need a pot-stirring smilie face.

  • RedBeard

    Dropped a double sawbuck in the Seminole Hard Rock Casino.

  • blooch

    with being the DD at a sports bar, either.

  • blooch
  • deano64

    they reduced to rubble.

  • deano64

    The massive debt Germany was suffering helped spark WWII. Never let a crisis go to waste……

  • RedBeard
  • The_Rebel

    the same one that Hitler blew up after taking the French surrender? I always thought he blew it up in 1940, but I understand that he didn’t blow it up until near the end of the war so that the victorious allies couldn’t use it for a German surrender.

  • http://www.examiner.com/x-1597-Charlotte-Law--Politics-Examiner Mike gamecock DeVine
  • http://www.examiner.com/x-1597-Charlotte-Law--Politics-Examiner Mike gamecock DeVine
  • http://www.examiner.com/x-1597-Charlotte-Law--Politics-Examiner Mike gamecock DeVine

    see SC flag.

  • http://www.examiner.com/x-1597-Charlotte-Law--Politics-Examiner Mike gamecock DeVine

    I do favor private property rights, but if I operated a bar up north, I would not be rude about the games. Many yankees are rude in this regard and others, but I guess that’s being redundant! smile

    PS There are some nice yankees down here, and I have had heterosexual relations with all of them.

  • blooch

    but I suppose that’s just sissy, too. Now this’ll flip your wig: I like salt on my watermelon..you ever heard of that? My Chinese wife thinks I’m crazy…but then again, she puts sugar on tomatoes…sheer insanity there.

  • blooch
  • http://theminorityreportblog.com Repair_Man_Jack

    you avoid recreating the whole Civil War thing :)

  • http://theminorityreportblog.com Repair_Man_Jack

    It stops with The South Shall Rise Again…

  • RedBeard

    True story. When I stopped for lunch at the New Perry Hotel in Georgia some years ago, I asked the waitress for iced tea, no sugar.

    She innocently said, “Oh, you want artificial sweetener?”

    I said, “No, I like it with no sweetener at all.”

    She looked at me hard, like she had just encountered a space alien, put her hands on her hips, and said with mock outrage, “You’re not from around here, ARE YOU?”

  • johnconradarens

    …BUT- (speaking of The Great War) Woodrow Wilson was the first Southerner elected President after the Civil War, and we all know what an unmitigated disaster he was for the country, and the world. And I won’t even go into Jimmuh.

    Now, I LOVE the south and all (my parents retired to Tennessee, which I never would have guessed, circa 1968– And it is gorgeous)… Some of our most Patriotic warriors are from the South (Mom and Dad’s place is just down the road, in fact, from Alvin York’s birthplace). But, if there is one thing I cannot comprehend: What’s up with Boiled Peanuts?

  • Doc Holliday

    I prefer the fancy ones with no peanuts. I know a lot of Texans at least to put peanuts in their Dr. Pepper, that is kinda weird.

  • Doc Holliday
  • ihateliberals

    isn’t here yet. He may just make an announcement on November 1st that under his regime the WW I is finally over.

  • timchgo9

    I think not!… I am so conservative, I make Rush look like a leftie…. FOFL… (that’s what the g/f said last night)

    Libs wouldn’t be caught dead with a Pepsi, or a Coke in their hands…Besides, PepsiMax is a great wake up in the morning…

  • timchgo9

    the massive debt, it was the political and civil unrest. From 1919 through Hitler’s ascension to power Germany was in a constant crisis. There were several battles, between the German Freikorps and Socialist/Communist insurgents. Essen was one of the battle grounds. In fact, in the 1920′s the French occupied the Ruhr, and that only made the crisis worse, and that led to the “Massacre at Krupp” where a squad of French soldiers opened fire on a crowd of Kruppianer that had cornered them in a garage, 8 were killed and many others wounded.

    Germany was not a fun place to be back then. Inflation was out of control, unemployment was high, and food was hard to come by. Hitler, during his rise to power, sparked the intense nationalism that the Germans were known for. Hitler’s rise to power wasn’t easy (he started in 1925) but, he managed to capture the imagination of the people, as well as disabling, bullying, or killing his political opponents. He appealed to something in the German people, and they responded. Unfortunately for millions his party was elected to power, and through deception and out right treachery, he became dictator…..

    “Rise and Fall of the Third Reich” is, in my opinion, the seminal work on the subject. There are several others, but, never before has the world been subject to a force as dark and as evil as Nazism… until Radical Islam came along…… The two are strikingly similar.

  • http://www.examiner.com/x-1597-Charlotte-Law--Politics-Examiner Mike gamecock DeVine

    One of my roommates makes unsweetended all the time and I get fussed at for drinking it by my part-time girlfriend . The main factor to me is temp. I like thinks cold or hot…never lukewarm!

  • http://www.examiner.com/x-1597-Charlotte-Law--Politics-Examiner Mike gamecock DeVine

    during cold weather…

  • azaeroprof

    Coke was the official soft drink of the Carter White House.
    Pepsi was the official sot drink of the Reagan White House

    (Haven’t check this lately, but as of the 80′s:)
    Coke was a long-time contributor to the Democrat party.
    Pepsi was a long-time contributor to the Republican party.

    Coke comes in a red and white can, not coincidentally the colors of the Soviet empire, and the curl from the ‘C’ in Cola passing through the letter ‘L’ in the Coca-Cola logo bears an uncanny resemblance to the hammer and sickle!
    Pepsi comes in a good ol’ red white and blue can.

    Coke stands for:
    Communist
    Order of the
    Kremlin
    Elite

    Need I say more?
    ’nuff said!

    ;)

  • http://www.examiner.com/x-1597-Charlotte-Law--Politics-Examiner Mike gamecock DeVine
  • Doc Holliday

    The guy who made this over the top video must agree.

  • Jack_Savage

    And my drink of choice is Nehi grape with salted peanuts poured in the bottle.

  • Jack_Savage

    A warrior with his foot on a dead body, and the logo “Thus Always To Tyrants” in latin.

  • walter

    Blooch/ muggedbyrealism, Do you have any idea how much funding the EPA received in the last 34 years?

    denying climate policy-

    1st: policy – someone’s idea of the rules regarding an issue. Who’s in charge?

    2nd: climate – in a nutshell – the weather. (fact, the earth has been around for how many bilion years ? ? The policy wonks are using a pin prick of information to creat policy – example: make a line from NY to LA and put a pin prick on that line at Casper WY. there’s your information).

    3rd: denying. Who’s in charge?

    Note, the more enviornmental control the gov. has, the more likely for it’s people to live in forced regulated policy. There’s a communist saying that goes, “Capture the enviornment of the people, and you capture the people”

  • Doc Holliday

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EMo6o0BtFG8

    by the way, Coke is RED, aka RED STATE. Pepsi is BLUE…..

  • Doc Holliday

    even then, it is all a bit confusing lol. Also, I could bring up Jane Fonda but I will drop it, its your team, that’s cool..for you :)

  • edintexas

    And I don’t think that cost will end in the foreseeable future either.

  • edintexas

    Until you mix peanuts and crunched up Fritos and chase the mixture down with a good cold beer (I’ll stay out of the beer wars).

    As for the Cola War (seein as how Dr. Pepper isn’t a cola), I have one Southern addition: Royal Crown Cola.

    Between Pepsi and Coke, being a Conservative I opted for Pepsi when those were the only two choices. There is a logical reason for that (I did say I was Conservative – no “feeling” involved). When I was a youngster I could buy a bottle of Coke, some pieces of bubble gum and pay the deposit for the bottle – all with a dime. Or I could buy a bottle of Pepsi, etc. for that same dime. Now since that bottle of Coke was 7 ounces and that bottle of Pepsi was 10 ounces, it was only logical to buy the Pepsi.

  • acat

    Why drink that crap from ‘lanta?

    Mew

  • edintexas

    Her thought on the matter was simple: “If they hadn’t deposed the Kaiser, that man Hitler would never have gotten in!” She didn’t think much of Aldolph, and she may well have been correct about whether retaining the Kaiser may have helped prevent WW II.

    I would take issue about “…never before has the world…”. Yes there have been others, and in the sheer number of deaths of their own population (certainly as good, or better, a measure of “dark and evil” than wartime deaths), nothing holds a candle to Communism. Stalin or Mau (or the Kims to a lesser degree only because of total population available), either one killed more of their own people than the Fascists and National Socialists combined. You could even add all the victims of the Holocaust (most not “their own people”) and still would come up short of the number for either of the Communist dictators considering only their own people.

  • edintexas

    Actually the car was moved from France to Berlin. It was moved from Berlin to Thuringia sometime in either late 43 or early 44. And then later in the war, with the Allied forces advancing on Germany, the car was set afire and destroyed. There is a similar car emplaced today, with original exhibit materials inside.

  • azaeroprof

    I hadn’t seen that ad in years!

    But I should point out that the message of the ad was that Pepsi is worth fighting for, they were almost mocking the song. Seriously, what’s more lefty than “I’d like to teach the world to sing in perfect harmony”? :)

    I can’t rebut the red/blue thing, except to say that when Reagan was running, GOP=blue, Dem=red. The country was a sea of blue in ’80 and ’84. The only reason we are red now is because the lefties at the networks didn’t want to constantly remind the viewers that Dem=Commie! Imagine if we were www.bluestate.com! (I’m sure Erick would agree that “RedState Uprising” sounds much better than “BlueState Uprising”!)

  • azaeroprof

    After our disagreement over Palin and the fact that I can’t stand cats, it’s nice to see that we agree on Pepsi >> Coke.

    (Of course, my most favorite soft drink is Diet Dr. Pepper, which coincidentally also happens to be Sarah Palin’s favorite, but that’s another topic!)

  • timchgo9

    Ed… you are right about Stalin, Mao, and the Kims… I don’t know why I left them out…probably because I haven’t had my morning caffeine yet…

    Cheers..

  • Doc Holliday

    I like Dr. P and RC too.

  • acat

    And Dr. Pepper is also better than what passes for coca-cola today.. on par with Mexican-formula imported coca-cola, made the old fashioned way with actual sugar. (no, not the *very* old fashioned way, that would be illegal…)

    For more common ground, we both like to breathe air, and we both disagree with liberals on many, many points… (grin)

    Mew

  • gregory1972hunt

    “But in 1953, West Germany agreed at an international conference in London to service its international bond obligations from before World War II. In the years that followed it repaid the principal on the bonds, which had been issued to private and institutional investors in countries including the United States.”

    They paid off the principal long ago.

  • Doc Holliday
  • azaeroprof

    it’s too easy to take the obvious commonalities for granted!

  • acat
  • Doc Holliday

    the old kind was very sugary, we used to down a few prior to becoming of age to drink other things lol.

    want obscure? who likes Cheerwine? It is a Carolina/Southern VA thing I think, it might be sold in other areas too that I don’t know about. I had an aunt in FL once who told me about this great local Italian place they always went to, called The Olive Garden lol.

  • Doc Holliday

    and they said I couldn’t learn anything watching tv sticoms all day. H/T Seinfeld.

  • acat
  • jpshinn

    I grew up on the west coast but Dad was raised in China Grove, NC. Whenever we’d go back to visit, we’d drink as much Cheerwine as possible. Boy, I loved that stuff…

  • http://impudent.edublogs.org/ kyle8

    but I’ll look it up.

  • http://impudent.edublogs.org/ kyle8

    but I’ll look it up.

  • Doc Holliday

    I like to buy local, and it is a winner.

  • Doc Holliday

    I was right about the Carolinas and Virginia, didn’t know about Norway lol.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cheerwine

  • myron_j_poltroonian

    “Unto the seventh generation” is not nearly long enough.

  • myron_j_poltroonian

    I’m so glad I’m not thew only one who’s caught on the the “Red Shift”. Your reasoning as to why it happened is “spot on”, as our British cousins would say. I believe it all started with Peter Jennings’ petulantly and churlishly saying the “The American People had a temper tantrum tonight”, on election eve, in 1994.

  • myron_j_poltroonian

    The Nazis didn’t create the Swastika either. They just got it backwards.

  • Doc Holliday

    click the videos. I hope this is not sponsored by the company, these guys are stoners.

    http://www.itsasoftdrink.com/#/beach

  • ocleverone

    Love the stuff.

  • powertothepeople

    every time they visited, so I understand the Cheerwine withdraw.

    Now back in the south and can get it when I want it. If the withdraws get too bad, drop me a line and I can ship your a case or two. Always have to keep fellow republicans in the West Coast filled with a southern delicacy like Cheerwine.

  • denisethemenace

    Hey, jpshinn, you just made a liar out of me! When I tell people that my daughter and grandchildren live in North Carolina, they always ask where. I invariably respond with, “Oh, a little whistle-stop no one’s ever heard of: China Grove”!!! (And, my grandson can drink his weight in Cheerwine!)

  • http://www.examiner.com/x-1597-Charlotte-Law--Politics-Examiner Mike gamecock DeVine