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I Endorse Tom Tancredo for Governor of Colorado

If you have not read Nightwister’s post you need to.

If the Republicans in Colorado get less than ten percent of the vote in the gubernatorial race, the Colorado GOP will lose its privileged position in Colorado as a major party — a designation that gives it automatic ballot access.

This will tremendously impact down ballot races in Colorado long term.

At a time when the GOP is set to pick up the Colorado Senate seat, thanks to the stubborn stupidity of Dan Maes and his refusal to get out of the race, the GOP will win the Senate and concurently and most likely lose its position on the ballot.

But there is hope.

Tom Tancredo, a man with whom I disagree on many issues, continues to go up in the polls. Republicans in Colorado need to rally to Tom Tancredo. He can save the GOP. Yes, the GOP will still lose majority party status thanks to Dan Maes, but having Tancredo in the Governor’s Mansion will mitigate the damage Dan Maes is doing.

Dan Maes should go. He is doing untold and long term damage to the Colorado GOP. But it is clear Dan Maes does not care. He is, as NightTwister called him, a political suicide bomber.

I am happy to endorse Tom Tancredo for Governor of Colorado. I urge all Republicans in Colorado to rally to him quickly and bring their checkbooks. Tancredo will be a great Governor — far better than the Democrat and far more viable than Dan Maes.

It is time to rally.

COMMENTS

  • http://www.gmsplace.com/ civil_truth

    Did’t you mean “the Democratic Party will win the Senate and the GOP will lose its position on the ballot…”

  • http://www.gmsplace.com/ civil_truth

    First word – Didn’t

  • http://www.incredibleco.ning.com Incredible

    had a story on Maes. Talk about damning with faint praise! It basically listed the litany of lies, distortions, half-truths and misteps of the Maes campaign. Nobody came off looking good – even the Tancredo supporters. I felt slimy after reading it. If I can link it: http://www.denverpost.com/election2010/ci_16314709

    I don’t think that we have a credible candidate in this one. Tancredo gets no respect from me. I am really torn on whether or not to even vote in this race.

  • http://www.incredibleco.ning.com Incredible

    had a story on Maes. Talk about damning with faint praise! It basically listed the litany of lies, distortions, half-truths and misteps of the Maes campaign. Nobody came off looking good – even the Tancredo supporters. I felt slimy after reading it. If I can link it: http://www.denverpost.com/election2010/ci_16314709

    I don’t think that we have a credible candidate in this one. Tancredo gets no respect from me. I am really torn on whether or not to even vote in this race.

  • http://www.nighttwister.com NightTwister

    That’s really all that matters at this point.

  • http://www.hakubi.us/ Neil Stevens

    Between Hickenlooper and Tancredo, I’m indifferent.

  • http://www.erickerickson.org Erick Erickson

    Not only do you risk causing the GOP to lose majority party status, but you do long term damage to the CO-GOP because of it with no one in the Governors Mansion to help combat it.

  • IJB

    …So AFAIAC, that’s no reason to stick with Maes.

    The major focus in CO must be on the SEN race (the LSM keeps whispering that that race is “closing”, but I’ve seen no hard evidence of that…), and the race for CO State Legislature – the CO GOP needs to pick up at least 7 in the CO State House and 4 in the CO Senate to take over the CO Legislature. *THAT* is what the really important issue is here…

  • http://www.hakubi.us/ Neil Stevens

    But Tom Tancredo has proven himself to be openly hostile to the GOP, to the point of blackmailing us, and that can’t be ignored.

  • Iblis

    Especially in CD4, where he is still very popular.

    But to be fair, if the main worry is making that 10% threshold then Maes would be the strategic vote.

    The party guys I have spoken to don’t seem worried at all about the 10% issue. We’re expecting to capture at least one house in the legislature where that little problem can be fixed.

    If and when Tancredo tops 40% I’ll start taking his candidacy seriously and not just another one of his infamous ego trips.

  • drivlikejehu

    If by “hostile,” you mean “tried to prevent the disaster that has transpired,” you would be correct. Tancredo has been an active Republican for decades. He warned the inept state GOP as a last resort- and what’s followed has proven he did the right thing.

  • http://www.hakubi.us/ Neil Stevens
  • crosley

    Conservatives can’t just rally around every clown that just spouts off slogans that we agree with. Maes had no business running for Governor, anyone who took one serious look at his bio could understand that. I’m amazed how many people got suckered with con artists telling people they were the “Tea Party” candidate this election cycle.

    Running for Governor is “prime time”, it’s not amateur hour, you need to have something under your belt first. I’m sure his competition in the primary was also flawed, but I’d much rather have a competent Republican that didn’t jeopardize the entire Colorado GOP than this idiot.

    In a quixotic quest for purity, we really handed some important victories to liberal Democrats.

  • http://www.nighttwister.com NightTwister

    And a lot more. But in the end, he’d be WAY better than Hickenlooper, and he has a chance to win. So, unless you’re willing to pay for me the additional taxes I’ll have to pay under Gov. Hickenlooper, it’s time to go with the best we have. Maes cannot win. He never could. Tancredo, even with his issues, can still win, and he’d be way better for CO than Hick.

  • aesthete
  • calgacus

    is the best candidate for governor in any state. period. Did we support Doug Hoffman in NY-23 against Scozzofovva? I did.

  • conservativebeacon

    Tancredo will be an outstanding governor. He is a conservative traditionalist, which is exactly what we need in offices all across this country, not RINOS or globalists.

    Conservative Beacon

  • http://www.hakubi.us/ Neil Stevens

    Wasn’t it you who was just diarying here in favor of Tancredo?

    You can’t turn around and now demand that out of staters not express views.

    Can’t have it both ways.

  • Adjoran

    Vetting is everything. You can’t just fall in behind someone just because they check the right boxes on the questionnaire.

    Delaware Senate, Colorado Governor – two races we could have won, but for the mad rush of the mob.

  • Aaron Gardner

    President Obama thanks you.

  • minister_of_war

    Erick was saying that a Republican (i.e. Ken Buck) is going to win the race for US Senate while the GOP could lose their position on the ballot.

  • earlgrey

    Yeah it may or may not be perfect, but take a look at the “establishment” republican party, where is the fight there?

    Democrats have been putting up extreme and rather inexperienced candidates for high office for years, and I can think of at least one case where tragically they were able to pull it off.

  • http://www.incredibleco.ning.com Incredible
  • minister_of_war

    …while in Congress. Tancredo is very pro-life. Tancredo is extremely strong on illegal immigration. The list goes on & on.

    But Tancredo left the Republican Party.

    I think that the arguments in the first paragraph outweigh the argument in the 2nd by far. In fact, I’ve been wondering for a while if Tancredo didn’t run as a 3rd party candidate with the express purpose of inoculating other Republican candidates from being seen as Tancredo supporters. He has long been seen as being “too conservative” and thus “too extreme” if being “too conservative” is even possible or should be considered to be extreme in any way.

    Tancredo running for Governor under the Constitution Party banner left other Republicans – like Ken Buck – the space they needed to not be seen as part of a Tancredo Machine. Tom Tancredo has a lot of supporters. But we all know that he has a ton of enemies too. And the liberal media is probably one of his biggest enemies.

    When I say that he may have inoculated Republicans from him, I mean that they now get the chance to choose whether or not to openly support him based upon if they believe it will hurt their own campaigns. But none of them have to endorse him because he is the Republican Party nominee. So, other Republicans, like Ken Buck, don’t have to answer questions like: “Do you agree what your party nominee, the extremist Tom Tancredo, said about A, B, or C issue?”

    Tom Tancredo was probably not expecting to wake up on November 3 as Governor-Elect of Colorado, but it is now a distinct possibility. In most Tancredo rumors that I heard around a year ago, I had heard that he was thinking of running as a Republican for the US Senate seat.

    But maybe a Governor Tancredo, even if he is a Constitutional Party member now, or maybe especially because he is a Constitutional Party member now, can do even more good than a Senator Tancredo would have had the opportunity to do.

  • aesthete

    I like the Tea Party movement, but the wisdom of crowds and enthusiasm are a thin foundation for any philosophy or movement to rest on for too long.

  • minister_of_war

    … In fact Tom Tancredo didn’t start it. That was Karl Rove, by disallowing Tancredo from ever even gracing the White House with Tancredo’s shadow because Tancredo loudly stood-up for what most Republicans wanted: secured borders & an end to illegal immigration.

    We all know that story about Rove calling Tancredo & yelling at him because Tancredo wouldn’t support Bush’s amnesty plan. But we also have to look at the historical beginnings to the undoing of much of Bush’s support nationally & it had A HECK OF A LOT to do with his push for amnesty as soon as he was reelected even though that was no where near the top of President Bush’s election promises.

    Tancredo isn’t perfect, but neither am I nor is anybody else. Yet as a Congressman, Tancredo stood-up for conservative values on a number of times when everybody else was too afraid to say anything.

  • minister_of_war

    …than you are letting on. What particular issue do you have with Tancredo’s policy positions? Are you upset that he opposes amnesty? A lot of people want amnesty.

    Are you upset that Tancredo has said that we should lower our legal immigration levels? If that’s it, I can understand because I don’t agree with Tancredo on that.

    But if you’re just upset because Tancredo is no longer a Republican, well I’d have to tell you that as a non-Republican, Tom Tancredo is still a better Republican than at least 85% of Republican elected officials.

  • minister_of_war

    …by clearing the field of every other possible legitimate candidate. So that when the plagiarism charges became too big of a deal, the only one left was Tweedledee.

  • http://www.2010blog.net jsanzone

    It seems kind of karmic, doesn’t it? It’s clearly an example of using a position of incumbency to unfairly prevent others from ascending.

  • Jack_Savage

    Don’t you think that would be a good plan, Adjoran? I mean, if the people don’t defer to the wiser among us there might be a mistake or two.

    Maybe you could apply for the job. Or would the boxes you check be a little embarrassing?

  • Jack_Savage

    Couldn’t be less spending, less government intrusion into our lives and lower taxes, I guess.

  • http://www.hakubi.us/ Neil Stevens

    - His shady Buchananite/V-DAREish ties

    - His blackmailing of the GOP

    - His egotistical third party run

    Tancredo is no different from Crist or Murkowski. Just a fat head that needs taken out of politics forever.

  • aesthete

    with conservative support (such as RS) doesn’t defuse the Tancredo “extremist” charge, it exacerbates the problems related with it, given that Tancredo was a big figure down there and something of a conservative darling for a while. Whatever the merits and demerits of supporting Tancredo in CO, Tancredo’s run is incredibly self-indulgent and damaging to the Party.

  • earlgrey

    There have to be more like me, that are getting informed, supporting good candidates in primary and general election and volunteering. I am doing all of these, but I never did it before. I can’t be the only one, as special as I like to think I am.

    I won’t every stop either. I am so much wiser than I was before, and I nothing I do has filled me with more passion (excpet parenting).

    I guess I am hoping that there is a whole “class” of tea partiers getting involved in a positive way.

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  • aesthete

    I was referencing the statement, “the mob is where the fight is” (which in turn was meant as a rebuttal to the fact that some bad candidates have come out of the Tea Party movement with scarcely a platitude to their names). I don’t care about “mobs” or “fights”, I care about consistency and effectiveness in moving closer to the ideals that you note. If the Tea Party ever becomes ineffective at moving the ball forward, or ignores its original objectives in favor of the typical populist claptrap (closed borders, more government, unenforceable laws against some social malady or other), I don’t care about how much “fight” the Tea Party has in it.

  • aesthete

    I was referencing the statement, “the mob is where the fight is” (which in turn was meant as a rebuttal to the fact that some bad candidates have come out of the Tea Party movement with scarcely a platitude to their names). I don’t care about “mobs” or “fights”, I care about consistency and effectiveness in moving closer to the ideals that you note. If the Tea Party ever becomes ineffective at moving the ball forward, or ignores its original objectives in favor of the typical populist claptrap (closed borders, more government, unenforceable laws against some social malady or other), I don’t care about how much “fight” the Tea Party has in it.

  • crosley

    As far as human sins go, plagiarism is pretty low on my list, especially considering we’re now stuck with a REAL fraudster with an (R) next to his name who’s actively trying to ensure the Democrat candidate wins.

  • Jack_Savage

    And I think when the Tea Party becomes an organization rather than a loose collection of like – minded souls it will be well on its way to becoming what you cite.

  • AceInTX

    I want to agree with Night & Erick here but I can’t escape the fact that we’re chastising Lisa Murkowski for refusing to abide by the results of a primary…yet to endorse Tancredo aren’t we doing the same thing she’s guilty of…

    I know…I know…this is a special circumstance…and this is a case where the Republican nominee is tacitly endorsing the Democrat rather than see a conservative win… which enfuriates me…and everyone knows I loath RINOs….This screams out for me to lash out and back Tancredo to teaach the worthless POS a lesson….But then I’m back to Murkoski!

    My heart and my head is with Night & Erick in this…yet my principles and my head are with Neil I think….

    Conservative in the Primaries…Party in the General…that’s the rule…and I can’t rip on Murkowski one minute and in good conscience…cheer for Tancredo the next and respect myself.

    If faced with this quandary…I’d stick with Principle…Thank goodness I don’t live in CO and don’t have to face it

  • pilgrim

    The D won the NY 23 House seat. I do not enjoy being a pessimist, but I do not think CO will take the Governor seat away from the Ds in this election cycle.

  • AceInTX

    Are you referencing the De De Scuzzy endorsement of the Dem?

    and yeah…it stinks that the Repubs may lose more than the governor’s race….a place on the next ballot…but I can’t get past saying one thing in AK and another in CO

  • AceInTX

    heh…

    It did pretty well for this country fo 200 years

    but

  • http://www.gmsplace.com/ civil_truth

    …in particular I got confused between the two races. So what Erick is saying that he expects the Republicans to win the Senate, and Maes to poll less than 10%. Plus that his not getting out (and now taking up political suicide bombing) will likely give the governorship to the Dems – unless Tancredo, who’s the only other person on the ballot who’s competitive at this point, can pull it out. Got it.

  • pilgrim

    Losing stinks, and it is like a distinction without meaningful difference. If you are in CO and you vote for Tancredo and the D wins the stink will be lingering. You will not feel all better for your vote.

    If my pessimism is unfounded I will eat crow for not getting 100% behind Tancredo who wins. I just don’t see Tancredo winning.

  • IJB

    What happened in this CO GOV’s race may be a once-in-a-lifetime snafu. You can’t possibly generalize anything from this race to any other race, or visa versa. It’s a truly unique circumstance.

  • AceInTX

    Lindsey Graham telling everyone to “Just Shut Up” in the Amnesty fight comes to mind!

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  • http://www.hakubi.us/ Neil Stevens

    High five

  • http://www.gmsplace.com/ civil_truth

    And up to recently, I could not see why we should change our position on “Republican in the General”. I thought it smacked of opportunism and expediency

    But as I continue to follow the commenters who do know Colorado, this is a situation where I think one can give leave to those who will not longer support Maes.

    In particular, my understanding is that Maes covered up serious scandalous behavior (not sure if criminal, but certainly that which would seem to make him unfit).

    And then, instead of stepping out when the ballot rules would have allowed Buck could have switched to Governor and allowed Norton(?) to take on the Senate race, which would given an R lock for both spots, he insisted on staying in the race. And now he’s taken engaged in political suicide bombing, as Nightwister reported today.

    Given this record of egregious behavior – in which Maes has essentially given the finger to the Republican Party, I am willing to yield to the consensus, especially to those who are on the ground, and consider this a rare, one-of-a-kind exception to the rule.

  • SirGladiator

    In NY-23 the GOP candidate was ultra-liberal, maybe even more liberal than the Democrat. Therefore supporting the Conservative 3rd party candidate was the only sane thing to do. In Alaska, the liberal Republican lost and ran as an Independent, like Crist did in Florida, so naturally we support the nominee, because the nominee is the Conservative. And finally, in Colorado, both the GOP and Independent candidates are Conservative, but while normally we’d support the GOP candidate because the Independent is just a wasted vote, and taking votes from a potential Conservative winner, in Colorado its the exact opposite, the GOP candidate is just a wasted vote, and taking votes from a potential Conservative winner.

    If you look at these things purely on process and ignore what’s most important, electing Conservatives, then yes there’s a bit of inconsistency here. But once you realize that our goal is to elect good Conservatives, not just blindly support literally everyone on a ballot with an R next to their name, then you can see that everything Erick has said and done is completely consistent, and I support it 100%.

  • http://www.gmsplace.com/ civil_truth

    But given that Tancredo is one of my least popular Republican politicans – especially his too close links to the nativists like Pat Buchanan, who have extremely unsavory views, this is a grim choice.

    But in the exigencies of the imminent Marxist revolution in Washington, we do need Republican governors in as many critical states in light of redistricting.

    So I will not condemn those who cannot support Maes, and am glad that I’m not a Colorado voter. And I hope in four years that the same disaster won’t befall the Colorado GOP again.

    Assuming we still are a Republic with free elections then…

  • Lloyd Davis

    He could have run for the GOP nomination… he didn’t,
    He tried to force the GOP to replace whoever won, in this case Maes when McInnis imploded.
    He goes the third-party route when he doesn’t get his way… even though it will help Hickenlooper.
    He continues to try to bury the GOP candidate and causes hard feelings to build up with people who supported Maes through his primary win… people who he will need to win.
    His ego that made him think he knew better than the primary voters.

    I’m not ignoring the fact that Maes has too many problems… we can all agree on that. I can’t ignore the fact that Tancredo wants to be a king-maker…. or king. No matter who gets in the way… party affiliation not withstanding.

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    ?Never say sorry – it?s a sign of weakness?
    John Wayne

  • aesthete

    It is not material easily sloganeered or adequately encapsulated by a pithy phrase, and is well-grounded on defined philosophical concepts, not “common sense” (a buzzphrase which is the last refuge of the intellectually bankrupt). As you’ll note, I said wisdom of the crowds and enthusiasm are a thin foundation, not “Constitutional sentiment and wanting to live within one’s means”. This is especially the case when you consider that those two often conflict. The Tea Parties, thus far, are proving quite resilient at maintaining and promoting their original mission and not giving in to mission creep, while staying disorganized. I support their current iteration and hope that they continue as they are in the future (especially when a Republican administration takes power). However, they are the exception to the typical populist movement, not the norm, and it is eminently possible that they may follow the populist movements of our past into the gutter. Again, I hope that that does not happen, and the only way to ensure that it doesn’t is to make sure that Tea Partiers themselves are praising the movement for the right things (focus on the Constitution and living within our means) and not pointless peripherals or imaging (authenticity, enthusiasm, commonality, anti-elitism).

  • http://www.nighttwister.com NightTwister

    I just wanted to make sure that’s what you’re doing.

  • minister_of_war

    -nt-

  • minister_of_war

    I’m not saying that it’s not self-indulgent either.

    But I think that Tancredo sees himself as more of a man on a mission & “the only one willing” to take on certain issues & fight against certain entrenched interests. We will soon see how that goes for him.

  • aesthete

    Many of Tancredo’s views on immigration, nativism and naturalization, and his associations with like-minded people, have served to make him repugnant in my eyes. That, and his stunt in the CO race, don’t make me simpatico in any way with Tancredo and his political career. However, it must be acknowledged that 1) Maes cannot win, and that 2) Maes left us, not the other way around, by advocating for Hickenlooper over Tancredo. It’s clear that Tancredo has a better chance, and that he would be much better than Hickenlooper for a variety of reasons. Much as I dislike the man, we can trust Tancredo 100% on issues of states’ powers in a Federalist system, taxes, spending, and several others which directly affect states yesterday. Hickenlooper is not.

    We support the Republican party based on political exigency and utility of that support to the conservative movement, not because we like elephants, and in this particular case, even the establishment Rs and the national party are against Maes. This is an eminently justifiable exception. Considering that we held our noses for McCain, I think that we can do no less in CO’s race (though the sentiment of Republican loyalism is admirable).

  • minister_of_war

    … I agree with each of your points there. It would be hard to defend the way that Tancredo went about the whole thing.

    Maybe he really does feel too conservative to be a Republican anymore. Who knows?

  • http://impudent.edublogs.org/ kyle8

    He has said some pretty stupid things, but I will give him this credit.

    He was the ONLY politician, for a while, that was bringing the chaotic situation on the border to public light. The ONLY one! I give him kudos for that.

  • http://impudent.edublogs.org/ kyle8

    He has said some pretty stupid things, but I will give him this credit.

    He was the ONLY politician, for a while, that was bringing the chaotic situation on the border to public light. The ONLY one! I give him kudos for that.

  • http://www.hakubi.us/ Neil Stevens

    He’s as bad as the left on that: he refuses to distinguish between the law abiding and the criminals.

  • Lloyd Davis

    but in no way does it mean I support Tancredo…. it just means I’m voting against Hickenlooper.

    I guess in this case the ends will justify the means… the Democrats losing.

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    ?Never say sorry – it?s a sign of weakness?
    John Wayne

  • AceInTX
  • AceInTX

    and I can understand the desire..and even the rational for leaving the reservation this one time…

    but there is more to be considered in a mature movement….I don’t like pragmatism….or situational ethics, or whatever label you want to put on this….is backing Tancredo at this point pragmatism? Is is situational ethics….maybe….maybe not….

    I really am torn on this….because given what’s happened I can really empathize…and really want to go along with this endorsement…

    But my integrity means something here…and I just have a hard time ranting against Murkowski’s refusal to honor the primary…and accusing her of sour Grapes on the one hand…and then flipping it on it’s head to support Tancredo for essentially the same thing.

    I realize what Maes is doing now is is dispensable…and it enrages me beyond belief because this is typical RINO behavior…but I can’t help but wonder if things would have become so desperate for Maes if Tancredo had simply honored the primary and supported the nominee as we are calling on Murkowski to do.

    Again I’m torn on this because my gut, my emotions…my heart is saying go with Erick on this…but my principles…and my own sense of honor, (however misguided it may be) says otherwise

  • AceInTX

    and thank the LORD above that as a Texan, I can avoid being impaled on the Morton’s Fork that is the CO governors race this year

  • AceInTX

    Sometimes spell check isn’t your friend

  • AceInTX

    I want to agree with you Night…and I do to a great extent….

    ….the Murkowski thing and principle tilts it toward rejecting Tancredo….but just barely.

    Plus the 10% issue has to be considered…

    Now…if someone could show me that Maes is one of the Dem’s Trojan Horses, (Democrats dressed up to look like a tea party horse to be wheeled into the gate….no that would be another thing….

    Anyway…now I’m talking in circles…

    Principles?…or Pragmatism?…..

    I think I’ll just leave this where it lies now because I could go either way…and I don’t live in CO

  • http://www.incredibleco.ning.com Incredible

    You’re right, in the end. But Ace is looking at this academically (if I may interpret you, Ace), like most other out-of-stater’s in this thread. They are looking at principle, precedent and consistency.

    You and I have to look at this very pragmatically. If I had been polled before this morning, I would have supported Maes in accordance with the maxim (‘Conservative Primary, Republican General’). But, as you succinctly put it, ‘whose going to pay for my tax increases?’ Thanks to you, the Democrat Post and Erick, today was the day that I changed my support.

    And Ace, thank you for being so diplomatic. I’ve seen your fur rubbed the wrong way and your response was emblematic of how we should comport ourselves in internecine arguments. Hat tip to your class.

  • http://www.incredibleco.ning.com Incredible

    You’re right, in the end. But Ace is looking at this academically (if I may interpret you, Ace), like most other out-of-stater’s in this thread. They are looking at principle, precedent and consistency.

    You and I have to look at this very pragmatically. If I had been polled before this morning, I would have supported Maes in accordance with the maxim (‘Conservative Primary, Republican General’). But, as you succinctly put it, ‘whose going to pay for my tax increases?’ Thanks to you, the Democrat Post and Erick, today was the day that I changed my support.

    And Ace, thank you for being so diplomatic. I’ve seen your fur rubbed the wrong way and your response was emblematic of how we should comport ourselves in internecine arguments. Hat tip to your class.

  • http://www.incredibleco.ning.com Incredible

    Good lord my ‘middle childness’ came out there.

  • AceInTX

    usually I have a clear idea of what I believe to be right…or wrong in a situation I draw my line in the sand…and dig in for the ensuing siege…since I can go either way in this situation I’m having to think and feel my way through the mine field of my emotions while clinging to my principles and sense of honor to my beliefs.

    Besides…Night and I go back a ways and we agree most of the time I think….and I can’t fault his reasoning here since half of me wants to agree with him….actually…more than half of me wants to agree with him…the only thing I am hung up on is the Murkowski thing…and my need to stand for something and not be tossed about by situations compromising here and there on one issue while holding on to the bitter end to the very same ground in a different circumstance.

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  • http://www.nighttwister.com NightTwister

    In some ways not as bad, in some ways worse. I think most people are suffering from not knowing the entire history of this race. Without full knowledge of the sequence of events it’s easy to compare it to other situations. Trust me when I say nothing else out there is like this race.

    Heck, two weeks ago even I was calling Erick down for abandoning the “conservative in the primary, Republican in the general” principle. What finally did it for me is Maes basically endorsed the Democrat. Not even Crist or Murkowski did that. Once Maes crossed that line I was done with him.. What he did is even worse than Scuzzafozza. At least she quit before she endorsed the Democrat. Maes is supposed to STILL be the GOP candidate, and he’s campaigning for the Democrat!

    Even Maes’ running mate isn’t campaigning anymore. How bad do you have to be to have your running mate quit on you?

  • http://www.gmsplace.com/ civil_truth

    Peacekeeper Missile

  • davesinsanantonio

    on “common sense”. They were well educated in the ideals of the Enlightenment, but they were also well grounded in common sense. So, while they looked at liberty issues they also devised the separation of powers and the checks and balances needed within the national government, and the federalism ideas that limited the powers of the federal government to a few specifics, because they had the common sense to understand human nature and to try to safeguard against it. It has been the pols who have slowly eroded those

    A second quibble: The Tea Party is not disorganized as much as it is “unorganized”. There is a difference.

  • dudette

    As a tea party activist, i have seen a group taken over by a demagogue and hijack the whole thing–using the group as a personal campaign vehicle. Everything centered on the race and the candidate. This defeats the idea of being principle driven, which unites across party lines. Sadly, this group divided a lot of good people and produced an unsuitable and unelectable candidate to challenge the 22 yr incumbent liberal who never visits the district.

  • davesinsanantonio

    trying to conduct a write-in campaign. Tancredo was not in the primary and, thus, not rejected by the voters. I do not really know how, or if, that difference parses, but just wanted to throw it in.

  • dudette

    and sent as a spoiler? That happened in NJ race but Christie beat them all. Just curious…it is the oddest race around.

  • davesinsanantonio

    on the Republican Party.

  • AceInTX
  • NHConservative0227

    Tom Tancredo was my favorite candidate in the 08 presidential election.

    Our “extremist” never had a chance, while the left’s extremist is sitting in the Oval Office.

  • aesthete

    I hear you on the idea that the Founders were pragmatic/aware of human nature, and agree with you. However, the term “common sense” has been hijacked for causes as sundry and varied as the Japanese Internment, Social Security, and the various statist plans that are presumably justifiable once on eshews principle and protection of rights. Moreover, such “common sense” was, in fact, uncommon: it is exceedingly rare for a mob to come up with or support ideas as complex as seperation of powers or federalism as fully-formed ideas. IOW, common sense has little to do with popularity or the mob sentiment. It, like the term “equality”, have been so politicized as to be meaningless.

    Agreed on the second point.

  • rickindenver

    I was at the Denver April 15th Tea Party rally where Maes first came on the scene. He had a tent set up and numerous volunteers moving through the crowd handing out tons of campaign literature. By doing this he somehow became the “Tea Party candidate”! Since then he has shown himself to be a self serving idiot with an obviously huge ego!

    McGinnis lost not only because he was a washed up politician who thought he could bring Washington cess pool politics to Colorado, but his arrogance led him to try to cover up what was a minor plagerism issue. The cover up and denial were disgraceful! It cost him my vote!

    Tancredo is a conservative who calls them like he sees them, plain and simple! He will get my vote!

    Note to Dick Wadhams chair of the Colorado Republican Party: As soon as the election results are in on November second, resign! Under your leadership we have had a Democrat state house, state Senate and Governor. We have had several senate seats go democrat and in 2008 sent dummies like the Salazaar brothers, Markey, Perlmutter, Polis, Udall, and Bennet to Washington! In 2010 you have supported McGinnis and Norton in the primaries who both lost! It is well past time for you to go!

  • raider

    From Rasumssen on October 15th: “Is independent Tom Tancredo now becoming the de facto Republican candidate for governor of Colorado? He?s now moved to within four points of Democrat John Hickenlooper to turn the race into a toss-up.”

    During one week, Tancredo receives an endorsement from Erick Erickson on Tuesday and moves to within four poins of Hickenlooper on Friday.

    A good week for Tom Tancredo.

  • raider

    From Rasumssen on October 15th: “Is independent Tom Tancredo now becoming the de facto Republican candidate for governor of Colorado? He?s now moved to within four points of Democrat John Hickenlooper to turn the race into a toss-up.”

    During one week, Tancredo receives an endorsement from Erick Erickson on Tuesday and moves to within four poins of Hickenlooper on Friday.

    A good week for Tom Tancredo.