On November 2, 2010, the Republican Party made its largest single day gains in the House of Representatives since 1948 and, I have been told credibly, the largest gains of any political party in local, state, and federal races combined in more than 100 years.
19 state legislative bodies ultimately flipped to the GOP. Of the 18 states that will gain or lose seats in Congress for the next decade, the GOP controls 12 of the 18 Governor’s Mansions. The Democrats have been wiped out except among coastal elites and majority-minority districts. The GOP, long said to not be able to make inroads in New England, now controls the Maine Governor’s Mansion, the Maine legislature, the New Hampshire Legislature, a New Hampshire Senate seat, and several congressional seats.
Nonetheless, the Senate Republicans are unhappy because they thought they should have won the Senate. Never mind that few people think the Senate GOP has learned a single lesson from 2006 or 2008. But instead of taking responsibility, they are forced to blame someone. Much like Mr. Obama blaming the voters for Democrat losses by not appreciating what he’d done for them, the Senate GOP is blaming conservatives. And the face of that blame belongs to Jim DeMint.
In the past 24 hours, Senate Republicans and some RNC sources are blaming Jim DeMint directly. Instead of blaming Senator DeMint, the NRSC duo of John Cornyn and Rob Jesmer, and to a lesser the RNC, should blame themselves.
Here are the facts.
1. Jim DeMint is being blamed for Sharron Angle’s nomination in Nevada. DeMint specifically did not endorse nor campaign for Sharron Angle prior to her nomination. Even here at RedState, I backed Danny Tarkanian.
2. Jim DeMint waited until the end of the Delaware Primary to endorse Christine O’Donnell and, frankly, I’d rather Chris Coons than Mike Castle. You may not think you would, but you would. But that is beside the point. O’Donnell was a week away from the primary and already ahead in the polls before DeMint said one word or spent one dime.
3. In Colorado, and this is the biggie, Ken Buck barely lost. The NRSC, shortly before the end of the Colorado Primary, sent millions to Jane Norton freeing her up to attack Ken Buck to be anti-women. Michael Bennet then picked up Norton’s campaign attacks and clobbered Buck.
4. Likewise in Colorado, neither the NRSC nor the RNC funded a GOTV program. They relied on the Republican Governor’s Association, which left Colorado when Dan Maes cratered.
5. Instead of pouring in additional resources to Washington, Colorado, etc., the NRSC sent $8 million to California in the last week for Carly Fiorina who lost by somewhere around ten points.
6. In Alaska, Jim DeMint did nothing to help or support or fund Joe Miller until after he became the Republican nominee. Not including the NRSC, Jim DeMint spent $727,000.00 to help Joe Miller. The rest of the Senate GOP members combined contributed roughly $25,000.00 each. [correction: I didn't write that last sentence correctly and have updated]
7. GOP Senate candidates underperformed their polling at around 3% in most races. Why? Because the NRSC did not fund a ground game operation, nor did the RNC. They either left it to Karl Rove or Haley Barbour. There was not, as in past years, a mass exodus of GOP Hill Staffers from Washington to the ground in swing states.
But there is an even greater, larger point. None of this would have happened had the NRSC not decided to dictate to Republicans in the several states who their Republican candidates should be. Christine O’Donnell’s and Sharron Angle’s wins were largely reactions to what the NRSC was doing.
Compare this with the House campaign body, the NRCC. After getting clobbered over the NY-23 race and Dede Scozzafava, the NRCC took a hands off approach and let local voters choose their candidates. Not the NRSC. It doubled up around the country igniting a civil war with the grassroots — a civil war that would have never happened but their getting into Florida and doubling down.
The NRSC’s argument amounts to telling the world that voters exercising their right to pick their candidates are stupid and Jim DeMint is stupid for siding with the voters.
One final thought — the NRSC would have you believe that Arlen Specter was more viable than Pat Toomey and Charlie Crist was more viable than Marco Rubio.
Would you rather have Pat Toomey or Arlen Specter?
Would you rather have Marco Rubio or Charlie Crist?
You’re damn right it was a necessary fight and the NRSC and RNC have no one to blame but themselves.
Jeff Emanuel
Neil Stevens
ABSOLUTELY !! 5-5-5
america1st (Diary) Thursday, November 4th at 5:13AM EDT (link)The entrenched GOP establishment can wail & gnash their teeth, but the folks on the ground know where the blame lies. If they do not learn from this, then conservatives need to find quality alternatives to challenge them in the primaries.
It is bad enough we must fight so hard to preserve the Republic from the internal cancer of the left, but it is utterly reprehensible to have our nominal leaders not only complicit in the problem (as they were in their big spending incarnations of the past twenty years), but seeking to preserve the problem.
Logic in the mind of a liberal is like a snowflake in the desert: lost, alone and soon destroyed by a hostile environment.
The most important point in Erick's post is #7, dealing with the underperformance of candidates compared to the polls
red_oakster (Diary) Thursday, November 4th at 12:20PM EDT (link)While some in the Republican establishment are foolishly blaming the tea party activists, virtually all GOP statewide candidates (perhaps Florida excepted) finished below where they were polling a week before the election. This happened across the country. And contrary to Erick, I don’t believe ground game explains it. Some contests must have had good ground games.
Republicans did not do a good job closing the argument. House races and state legislative races don’t have closing arguments because of all the noise, but statewide races do. It’s a real worry for 2012 and I hope this eleventh hour fade gets careful review. I suspect that this fade also clipped Republican gains in the house, where with a week to go, the pickup of 80+ seemed a real possibility.
Or the likely voter models were off
JSobieski (Diary) Thursday, November 4th at 12:26PM EDT (link)The options are:
(1) Something changed between the polls and the vote (i..e not a good job closing the argument)
(2) The polls were themselves incorrect. Modeling likely voters is tricky. How to pollsters factor in the reality that a lot of people unlikely to vote will eventually get strong armed by the union to vote?
In contrast, nobody puts any stock in house race polling.
Did you know that China has been losing manufacturing jobs since 1995? For the specific data, see Table 1 in the following link: http://www.bls.gov/opub/mlr/2005/07/art2full.pdf
JSobieski, do you think the likely voter models could have been wrong across the board,
red_oakster (Diary) Thursday, November 4th at 12:44PM EDT (link)across a range of pollsters? That’s why I think something happened to boost Democrats.
My fear is that this fade does not receive a good look, and he we miss out on opportunities in 2012.
What is more likely, an analytical mistake that is consistent "across the board"
JSobieski (Diary) Thursday, November 4th at 12:56PM EDT (link)or actual activity on the ground that is consistent across the board?
It would be hard, on purpose, to commit a fraud that had an equal effect across the board.
“Across the board” is the key issue.
Did you know that China has been losing manufacturing jobs since 1995? For the specific data, see Table 1 in the following link: http://www.bls.gov/opub/mlr/2005/07/art2full.pdf
What is more likely, an analytical mistake that is consistent "across the board"
JSobieski (Diary) Thursday, November 4th at 12:56PM EDT (link)or actual activity on the ground that is consistent across the board?
It would be hard, on purpose, to commit a fraud that had an equal effect across the board.
“Across the board” is the key issue.
Did you know that China has been losing manufacturing jobs since 1995? For the specific data, see Table 1 in the following link: http://www.bls.gov/opub/mlr/2005/07/art2full.pdf
WHO ARE THESE GUYS, ANYWAY?
Fr. Jim Rosselli Thursday, November 4th at 5:06PM EDT (link)Who elects the Republican National Committee? Who elects the
Natonal Repuiblican Senatorial Committee? Who is Carl Rove, to go
around the country bad-mouthing our candidates?
Question: Whart’s more useless than screen doors on a submarine?
Answer: A Senate Republican.
Jim DeMint is going all-out to change that situation, but the mediocrity-
loving folks at the RNC and the RNSC are determined to stop him.
Who gave them permission to do that?
The GOP leadership behaved disgracefully, this past election. Can you see
campaigning against your own people, trying to with-hold funds from them
and missing no opportunity to run them down, during–of all things–a
General Election?
Who gave them permission to do that?
Mr. Steele and his crowd have conclusively demonstrated that they can not
be trusted with the leadership of the GOP, anymore. We need to work hard
not to be burdened with them in 2012
Our candidates should not have to take up half their campaign time defending themselves against their own party leadership.
We had fine candidates. They didn’t lose the Senate for us. The Leadership
did.
Next job: Flip the Leadership.
Fr. Jim <><
"Aslan is not a tame Lion."
But will they learn anything from this?
davesinsanantonio (Diary) Thursday, November 4th at 5:27AM EDT (link)I doubt it. John Cornyn is a bright guy, but he can be so stupid sometimes. His arrogance could give Obummer’s a run for its money. He also seems more interested in “reaching across the aisle” than in “reaching out to the people”. We should start looking for his primary opponent immediately. That way, maybe he will “pull a McCain” and make some conservative votes that he otherwise wouldn’t.
Or, maybe we should just find his opponent silently and then hit him at primary time, so that he doesn’t have time to hide his true colors. You are much wiser in these matters than I. So, just tell us who when the proper time comes. But, either way, we need to get rid of this RINO. And Michael Steele too!
What do you think...
jlsankot Thursday, November 4th at 6:36AM EDT (link)of Sarah Palin replacing Michael Steele. Do you think that would ever happen? The reason I ask is that I don’t think people would vote for her in a Presidential run, at least not yet, but her talents have got to be used somewhere and she does get people fired up!
I'd love to see Michael Williams as RNC Chair.
SoFiMil (Diary) Thursday, November 4th at 7:45AM EDT (link)And not because of his race.
If the Commissioner is interested in the position, I’d fully support him.. I’ll also fully support him in whatever decision he makes on his future.
www.suvstrategery.blogspot.com
Noooooooooooo.
mbecker908 (Diary) Thursday, November 4th at 9:34AM EDT (link)Michael Williams will be the next US Senator from Texas. Primarying KBH if necessary.
Totally Agree!
luciusacius (Diary) Thursday, November 4th at 2:19PM EDT (link)We need Michael Williams in the Senate. We have to get rid of the RINO cheerleader and put a true conservative in the Senate from Texas. Two years later we get rid of Cornyn.
Lucius Accius
“oderint dum metuant”
Totally Agree!
luciusacius (Diary) Thursday, November 4th at 2:19PM EDT (link)We need Michael Williams in the Senate. We have to get rid of the RINO cheerleader and put a true conservative in the Senate from Texas. Two years later we get rid of Cornyn.
Lucius Accius
“oderint dum metuant”
mbecker, could Michael Williams do both?
SoFiMil (Diary) Friday, November 5th at 1:29AM EDT (link)One year as RNC Chairman, and then one year running for Senate? The only snafu would be while primaring an incumbent is sometimes necessary (and in this case proper), it’s not a good precedent for a RNC Chair to do so. I would think a fair question to Michael Williams, should he chose to run for RNC Chair, would be whether he would challenge a Republican incumbent. Having an RNC supporting a challenger to a Republican incumbent is one thing. Having an RNC Chair himself/herself challenge a Republican incumbent is quite another.
That said, there may be time to do both – be RNC Chair and then run for Senate. Perhaps KBH maybe will retire for real in 2012? If so, a one-year RNC Chair will further hone the already well-honed Commissioner.
He’s doing a great job as railroad Commish, so there would be a trade-off there as well.
www.suvstrategery.blogspot.com
The jet
bruceinva Thursday, November 4th at 12:50PM EDT (link)is a symbol that would go a loooonnnng way towards showing the people that the R’s are serious about not spending money we don’t have. It’s not many dollars but the power of that message would be enormous. I’ve already told my congresscritter that selling the jet should be the #1 item come January.
Thanks for making that call, bruceinva.
SoFiMil (Diary) Friday, November 5th at 1:18AM EDT (link)I don’t know how Nancy’s friends and relatives are going to be able to keep up with the Jones’ now that they have their private jet taken away.
www.suvstrategery.blogspot.com
Michael Steele is the Les Miles of politics
6eorge Jetson (Diary) Thursday, November 4th at 7:30AM EDT (link)We did win, afterall
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And I stink at hyperlinks,...
6eorge Jetson (Diary) Thursday, November 4th at 7:32AM EDT (link)Kowalski
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John Cornyn is a bright guy
darline Thursday, November 4th at 7:38AM EDT (link)Cornyn is a bright guy, he votes straight down the conservative line and looks good but then he works to put six people in place that will stand against everything he says that he’s for. He’s a wolf in sheep’s clothing. The results being that he can say that he’s fought the good fight but lost when in truth he’s the very one that’s stood against our conservative values. His written answers to any correspondence is always condescending and assures us that he knows best. I would like to see Williams run against him in 2012 instead of Hutchinson. I don’t care for Hutchinson but she is not as dangerous as Cornyn is. We need to start working now to get him out in 2012 even though I’m sure he will look good with his votes and such he is not to be trusted.
Cornyn not up for re-election until 2014. nt
audax (Diary) Thursday, November 4th at 2:37PM EDT (link)Audeamus pro audere est facere
Cornyn IS the problem
After Seven (Diary) Thursday, November 4th at 4:13PM EDT (link)Uhhh gang, I have bad news for you, Cornyn may be book smart, but his talents end there.
Strategy: F
Tactics: F-
Consider the following:
1. Obama teed up one of the most Red Friendly Conservative environments in American Political History.
2. Cornyn Started his assault on the Senate by recruiting the Most RINO’ish candidates possible. We can only be thankful that Megan McCain was relatively unknown at the time.
3. It was his baby from Day 1.
4. Cornyn ran the campaigns to undermine most Tea Party Candidates.
5. After the Primaries, Cornyn continued with stealth campaigns to undermine a few candidates .
6. Money from the NRSC, when it did come, came too little and too late.
7. Failed to put apparatus in place to fight the illegal vote in Nevada’s very winnable race. Don’t get me started on the Miller/Murkowski issue.
The reason we don’t have a Senate Majority, (and mind you I’m not complaining at all), falls squarely on Cornyn. The problem with former judges, especially Supreme Court Justices, is that they have a God Complex, and that appears to be the case here.
The only thing Cornyn did right in the last 2 years was advocate a protracted legal fight for Norm Coleman…which Coleman did not heed, it was the right call by Cornyn then, it remains so in retrospect. Cornyn advocated for Coleman to bring the case before the federal court, and had said the trial and appeals could take years to complete. Cornyn had threatened that Republicans would wage a “World War III” if the Senate Democrats had attempted to seat Franken before the appeals were complete.
“The powers delegated by the proposed Constitution to the Federal Government, are few and defined. Those which are to remain in the State Governments are numerous and indefinite.” ~ James Madison
(Federalist 45)
John Cornyn is a disaster
calgacus (Diary) Thursday, November 4th at 4:18PM EDT (link)The NRSC has lost all credibility with me. I am not all for challenging every incumbent, but there are definitely several Senators who deserve a challenge in 2012: Roger Wicker (R-MS), Orrin Hatch (R-UT), Bob Corker (R-TN), Dick Lugar (R-IN). All four come from solid Republican states so there should be no way that the Democrat wins the general election.
It's a little early to be looking for Cornyn's replacement...
riverking Thursday, November 4th at 11:39PM EDT (link)…since he won’t be running for re-election until 2014. And I think you’re being a little too hard on him; I’d say he’s sometimes naive and too trusting rather than stupid. He has an unfortunate tendency to accept other people for what they say they are and is rather slow to change that opinion when they don’t “walk the walk”.
Kay Bailey’s term of office, on the other hand, will expire in 2012 and we should definitely be looking for a replacement for her. I see others promoting Michael Williams and I regularly receive eMails from Roger Williams reminding me that he is a candidate for the Senate; it’s probably time to start looking at them a little bit. How will having two Williams in the hunt pan out? They’re both going to have to work harder to stand out beyond the other.
RiverKing
Hold the Republicans to their promises and our will
southernpatriots (Diary) Thursday, November 4th at 5:27AM EDT (link)No doubt, we are celebrating the results of the election, knowing that we have to watch the Republicans and make sure they do what we elected them to do. We do not care if Obama will veto their legislation to repeal Obamacare, etc. We do not care. We care that they voted it out of the House. That is true with other items, such as border security, elimination of ear marks, instructing the Fed Reserve not to monetize our debt, rein in the czars, hold hearings on the Black Panther voter intimidation scandal, and many others.
The entrenched elitist and establishment Republicans need to be watched, rebuked and revealed when necessary. Then somehow gradually get rid of them for true conservatives with core conservative values and good sense.
Extended 555555555's
fpete13527 (Diary) Thursday, November 4th at 5:45AM EDT (link)At this point it is 100% clear to me that one of the major actions that grass roots conservatives must engage in is to remove the current Senate leadership. ASAP.
If the majority of the Senate has chosen to go along with the NRSC’s above argument, then it is time that they go too.
McConnell, Cornyn, NRSC staff and all that are aligned with the above thinking have not gotten any of the message that was sent yesterday. THEY HAVE NOT GOTTEN ANY OF THE MESSAGE.
The GOP Senate now needs to get it delivered to them. If that means that the entire Senate minus a few choose to fall on their sword for the current PATHETIC leadership……and go down the tubes with them…..so be it.
The GOP Senate NON-leadership is the problem. Time to deal with it now.
The attacks on DeMint are an extension of the attacks on the Tea Party...
MacAoidh (Diary) Thursday, November 4th at 10:31AM EDT (link)…which are similarly wrongheaded.
http://thehayride.com/2010/11/post-mortem-analysis-in-defense-of-the-tea-party/
Check out MacAoidh’s commentary on Louisiana and national politics at TheHayride.com
5x5, MacAoidh. 5x5. [nt]
acat (Diary) Thursday, November 4th at 4:43PM EDT (link)——

Caveat Suffragator
The attacks on DeMint are an extension of the attacks on the Tea Party...
MacAoidh (Diary) Thursday, November 4th at 10:31AM EDT (link)…which are similarly wrongheaded.
http://thehayride.com/2010/11/post-mortem-analysis-in-defense-of-the-tea-party/
Check out MacAoidh’s commentary on Louisiana and national politics at TheHayride.com
Who's Party is It?
freedomlovingman Thursday, November 4th at 5:47AM EDT (link)I was unaware of the actions either taken or not taken which were recounted here.
However, as someone who has voted republican his entire voting life, I can say that there will be more conflict and wasted effort and therefor likely losses in the future if the NRSC does not take a hands off approach in the primaries going forward.
I experienced this kind of problem in Kentucky early on when I was supporting Rand Paul (WINNER) in the primary and the NRSC his opponent.
So far as I am concerned, to win a race such as Delaware with a Castle would be no victory at all. His membership in the senate would bring it no closer to being an institution which would move the country in the right direction than Coons in my opinion.
To me, the Tea Party is the most exciting thing to happen in politics since R.R. ran in 1980. If the senate establishment republicans will not get on board with this new movement, one of two things will likely happen. Either they will get run over, or they will be left behind when the new party arises.
Extremely well said
fpete13527 (Diary) Thursday, November 4th at 6:05AM EDT (link)Exactly
nepanyrush Thursday, November 4th at 7:09AM EDT (link)Your comment that the NRSC needs to take a hands off approach in the primary is right on. This year, after the primaries, I decided not to give any more money to the national party apparatus, nor the state-level apparatus, because they were just using my money against my own candidates. Whenever they called, I told them exactly why I was not giving any money. A handful of people decide who is their favorites and support them, often without seeming to have any idea of how the candidate is viewed locally.
In the past, I was told here in PA to support Specter over Toomey and I dutifully followed. Never again.
I have told all the committees
Change Jar Conservative (Diary) Thursday, November 4th at 6:06AM EDT (link)that I won’t give to any of them until they stop trying to pick candidats in the primary.
I was unhappy with Angle and Buck’s performances, but agree with you that the RNSC have made horrible mistakes including the 8 million in California.
I mean, it’s not rocket science that you can better use that money in multiple smaller states and maybe win 2 more seats instead of 1.
********
Formerly know as “Oz” in these parts
Agreed
treeofliberty Thursday, November 4th at 8:50AM EDT (link)Spending all that money in California was a waste, as much as I hate to say it, I’m beginning to think that expensive, deep blue money sucking states like California should be avoided entirely. There’s just too much fertile ground in places like Colorado, West Virginia, even Washington where the GOP dollar would have had more of an impact in winnable races.
I guess I just have to get used to being in the wilderness
The_Rebel (Diary) Thursday, November 4th at 9:56AM EDT (link)here in MA if we are going to avoid “deep blue sucking states”. I’ll let Scott Brown know this so he can try to arrange for alternative campaign funding sources in 2012 when he runs for re-election.
As Moe would say, DOOM!
And also
etlib Thursday, November 4th at 9:58AM EDT (link)It costs a lot more money to fund a campaign in California with several large and expensive ad markets. A Dollar goes a lot farther toward electing a candidate in those other states.
“No creature without tentacles has ever developed true intelligence”
No no no no no
Beaglescout (Diary) Thursday, November 4th at 10:22AM EDT (link)We must never again abandon the Democrat controlled states. They must always have a choice of freedom. Every seat needs to be contested by a conservative. Every conservative candidate needs to have realistic support.
Carly and Meg were billionaires, self-funding their campaigns. The holy grail of political professionals, the self-funding candidate, has proved to be a cheap plastic copy made in Taiwan.
“A nation which can prefer disgrace to danger is prepared for a master, and deserves one.”
"Carly and Meg were billionaires, self-funding their campaigns."
bk (Diary) Thursday, November 4th at 5:33PM EDT (link)Apparently not, if $8M was dumped Carly’s way that could have made a difference in 2-3 other races that were actually close. The whole reason given for backing her instead of conservatives was that resources could be used elsewhere instead. As usual, the NRSC lied.
ok, they were multi- multi-millionaires
Beaglescout (Diary) Thursday, November 4th at 5:36PM EDT (link)They didn’t want to spend all their own money and wanted Republican donors to cover some of the costs.
“A nation which can prefer disgrace to danger is prepared for a master, and deserves one.”
And they were still plastic copies of the holy grail -nt-
Beaglescout (Diary) Thursday, November 4th at 5:37PM EDT (link)“A nation which can prefer disgrace to danger is prepared for a master, and deserves one.”
Cornyn is an elitist in many ways.
mirac777 (Diary) Thursday, November 4th at 6:12AM EDT (link)I believe your bullet points are pretty accurate here. The NRSC made big blunders in several races. And they didn’t have many races to really concentrate on, like the RNCC. The tsunami was well evident long before the primary battle lines were drawn. The “Old Guard” RNSC, which is about 3/4 elite progressive-minded, politically correct to the point of being stupid, lazy politicians. Note they let other groups do their jobs in some races, then have the audacity to complain. That money in the RNSC fund isn’t their personal “stash’ to be handed out to the good old boy network of progressive Republicans. It is for the Conservative Republican Party which includes the Teaparty Constitutional , Libertarian, Conservative voters. Like it or not, thats a fact.
Without O’Donnell and Miller, folks like Rand Paul and Marco Rubio would have had a lot harder trip to the Senate. Like it or not, without the TeaParty, the GOP wouldn’t be looking at 33 Conservative Republican Governors and storms of flipped State Houses and Senates! Here in Fl, we almost lost the governors race due to this same type of elitest thinking. Redistricting is crucial to saving our republic , as we need long-term solutions driven by voting by true conservatives. The hell with politically correct progressives, sneaking around under the GOP banner.
I called 63 House pickups and 8 Senate,Knowing that would be quite an accomplishment, considering the situation. Everyone is now talking about a “divide’ between GOP and TeaParty Congressmen and Senators. BULL! As an Independant who voted for Constitutional Conservatives best as I could, I say today we start restoring one thing in America. True conservative values, period. The Elites in the Senate know we will be watching every vote, every stance on the issues. We won’t hesitate to fire them at the first hint of Progressive Big Gov’t , irresponsible spending, UnAmerican policies. The TeaParty list of GOP RINOS is already out for 2012. Can you hear us now Mr Cornyn? How about you Mr McCain? We don’t care if you have been in Congress for 40 years, if you abandon true conservative values on ANY issue, you are gone. We have a huge mess to clean up, and we don’t need any “progressive-pimping” Republicans slowing us down!
United we stand…. Divided we fall.. into the pits of Socialism.
Public call RIGHT NOW, for a good credentialed conservative to run against Cornyn.
kyle8 (Diary) Thursday, November 4th at 6:52AM EDT (link)I know it is early, but we have to start laying the groundwork now. We need to get tea party people in Texas involved. We have several state legislators who might fill the bill. If one declares their intention early we can set up a money pact and start filling it.
“Nothing works like freedom, Nothing succeeds like liberty”
Kyle
555's Kyle...I will donate immediately
fpete13527 (Diary) Thursday, November 4th at 7:07AM EDT (link)State Senator Dan Patrick or Judge Ted Poe...
audax (Diary) Thursday, November 4th at 7:14AM EDT (link)…would be two great Constitutional conservtive-nouns to look at in 2014 for Cornyn Seat. First we need to get rid of kay Bailey Hutchinson and replace here with Micheal Williams in 2012! Micheal Williams would be a HISTORIC replacement for KBH and a true Constitutionalist!
Audeamus pro audere est facere
Tap the brakes
Money Thursday, November 4th at 10:13AM EDT (link)on Dan Patrick. Although he is one of the State Senate’s strongest voices on life issues, he has also been a strong voice for legalized gambling. Not that gambling is the worst thing in the world, but that is not exactly a conservative position in Texas. He needs further scrutiny. If Cornyn is going to be seriously challenged, it needs to be by someone with a larger track record and better name recognition, like Greg Abbott, Jeb Hensarling, David Dewhurst, etc.
“Wikipedia is the best thing ever. Anyone in the world can write anything they want about any subject, so you know you are getting the best possible information.” — Michael Scott
A Minor Correction
edintexas Thursday, November 4th at 12:03PM EDT (link)You said legalized gambling is not exactly a conservative position here. I think a more accurate statement might be it is opposed strenuously by the major religious affiliation here, which also holds most conservative policy positions. There are Conservatives in Texas who do not object to legalizing gambling (after all, the State already runs a few “games” – lottery, scratch offs, etc.). Personally, I only gamble with political contributions to candidates. I’ve never been in a casino, but if I ever do enter one – it sure won’t be owned/run by Harrah’s.
Doesn't sound like the Dan Patrick I know...
audax (Diary) Thursday, November 4th at 2:34PM EDT (link)…just placed a call to Dan and am awaiting his reply on this issue. I have NEVER heard Dan discuss legalized gambling! EVER! Don’t think legalized gambling squares with Dan’s Christian faith.
Audeamus pro audere est facere
Money, Just got a call from Dan's office..the legalized gambling issue is TOTAL BS!
audax (Diary) Thursday, November 4th at 3:51PM EDT (link)Dan would like to know were you got that misinformation? Can you expound? Feel free to contact his campaign or StateSsenate office if you would like to discuss that issue directly. Meanwhile, Dan Patrick has never supported legalized gambling in the State of Texas.
Audeamus pro audere est facere
and it would not bother me anyway
kyle8 (Diary) Thursday, November 4th at 4:09PM EDT (link)we are nearly drowning in Red Ink, and smothered by a run-away federal government, so issues like gambling take a big back seat to me.
“Nothing works like freedom, Nothing succeeds like liberty”
Kyle
and it would not bother me anyway
kyle8 (Diary) Thursday, November 4th at 4:09PM EDT (link)we are nearly drowning in Red Ink, and smothered by a run-away federal government, so issues like gambling take a big back seat to me.
“Nothing works like freedom, Nothing succeeds like liberty”
Kyle
Dan Patrick was named the number 3 most influential
gracie (Diary) Thursday, November 4th at 4:18PM EDT (link)Republican in Texas. Audax so glad you clarifiedhis position on gambling!
Yes! do a thorough examination of what Dan Patrick has accomplished in his short time in the Texas Senate and you will be amazed. He has never missed a vote! and will be serving on eight committees in the next session.
He is pro-life, ethical and deserves consideration for higher office. Imagine…we would have a truly honest legislator!
not only that, but as a talk show host...
kyle8 (Diary) Thursday, November 4th at 4:49PM EDT (link)he has refined his ability to communicate conservative ideas. We could sure do a lot worse.
“Nothing works like freedom, Nothing succeeds like liberty”
Kyle
not only that, but as a talk show host...
kyle8 (Diary) Thursday, November 4th at 4:49PM EDT (link)he has refined his ability to communicate conservative ideas. We could sure do a lot worse.
“Nothing works like freedom, Nothing succeeds like liberty”
Kyle
Graciegirl, Dan and Judge Poe are both fine men....
audax (Diary) Thursday, November 4th at 5:07PM EDT (link)….and Texas couldn’t get 2 better!
Audeamus pro audere est facere
What is unconservative about legalized gambling?
aesthete (Diary) Thursday, November 4th at 8:03PM EDT (link)Do we really want to say that treating citizens like children and depriving them of freedom is unconservative? Honestly, this fetish against legalized gambling is just as bad as sanctimonious Sierra Clubbers’ attempts to regulate our lives, or the attempts to force us to eat healthier. It certainly shouldn’t rise to the point of being a deal-breaker.
“It is a popular delusion that the government wastes vast amounts of money through inefficiency and sloth. Enormous effort and elaborate planning are required to waste this much money.”
-P.J. O’Rourke
aesthete, agreed, just didn't want Money misrepesenting Dan Patricks position on this issue. nt
audax (Diary) Thursday, November 4th at 10:45PM EDT (link)Audeamus pro audere est facere
Jim DeMint.
marysduby Thursday, November 4th at 6:18AM EDT (link)As far as i am concerned Jim DeMint should be the head of the republican party–i donated only to his PAC and the TEA Party–@$##$ the the rnsc!!!
There's an easy solution to this
Sean (SIConservative) (Diary) Thursday, November 4th at 6:39AM EDT (link)If Senate Republicans really want to take the Senate back, there’s a very simple solution. What’s more, they’ll be excited because they could remain active in primaries. The grassroots, I think, would be similarly excited because they’d be able to spend two years working on general elections rather than spending time and money on primaries. Senate Republicans now have a man among them who has actively recruited viable conservative candidates, helped them to run professional organizations, and raised millions to get them across the finish line. If Senate Republicans want to maximize gains in 2012, the best solution is to make Pat Toomey the new Chairman of the NRSC.
Interesting observation there.
mirac777 (Diary) Thursday, November 4th at 7:01AM EDT (link)We are being told that the “new’ members of congress have no experience blah blah blah. It doesn’t take a Hravard fake degree to install common sense conservative values into our Congress.All this experience talk is way blown out of proportion ,IMO. Look at the ignorant neanderthals we have up there today. Hard to read and understand a bill and its consequences to the people when you have never had to work and struggle in real life first .Manufactured politicians are being bred by the thousands today. Lawyers who never tried a case. Right from law school to Aide to Congress.They aren’t becoming politicians to serve the people. They are coming into Congress to line their pockets and steal tax dollars, period. Look at Obama, Weiner, and damn near every “advisor and Czar in his cabinet today.Not one has EVER WORKED an honest day in their lives.
Our founding fathers stated that serving in Congress was not to earn a living. The manufactured parasites of today use politics to get rich, period.Nothing but blown up supposed “lawyers ” that have found another way to suck off the taxpayer. Hillary flunked the bar in NY so Willy took her to ARK where he was a “Law Scholar” to get her fake degree. Look it up. I found it shocking myself, when Obama appointed a person to his cabinet this year and said he is an Expert, accomplished lawyer. Just what had this Expert accomplished? He had a total of 2 years as a Democratic Aide, PERIOD.
United we stand…. Divided we fall.. into the pits of Socialism.
Can you blame them?
proudmarinemom (Diary) Thursday, November 4th at 8:00AM EDT (link)Who in his or her right mind would want the job if they can’t use the position to get rich? Being primaried must be like parading around in your underwear with a scarlet letter “A” tattooed on your chest. If you’ve ever had a parking ticket, it will be exposed and you’ll be dragged through the mud like a stuck pig. There would have to be alot more reward for that than a salary comparable to what you’d make as a paralegal at Dewey, Cheatham & Howe.
It’s true that the politician-grooming machine is oiled and running in the universities across the country, as always. (I knew some of these guys in college — including one of Obama’s newest czars — they were student council presidents and pages on the Hill and campaign managers at local elections. One was Carter’s delegate coordinator at age 20.) That does not have to be a bad thing, it just usually turns out that way.
We’re looking for a few rare gems in a huge pile of rocks. Marco Rubio is the brightest to emerge and we hope there are more like him. Keep looking.
You and Moe, EE combine to say we are watching
Vassar Bushmills (Diary) Thursday, November 4th at 6:59AM EDT (link)a 4-act play, as the Dem’s Far Left and Left (Communist and Hot-Tub Socialists) will be having at it as well, this coming year.
These indeed are interesting times. The Good news is, we have the People, none of the other three actors do. Si I say, play to our strengths.
That's what happened at the State level also
suzyq Thursday, November 4th at 7:12AM EDT (link)I live in Florida and instead of letting the primaries taking their natural course, the Republicans went all in for their boy McCollum. The voters knew that and voted against the establishment for Scott.
Now, I think Scott will be a much better governer than McCollum, but the establishment Republicans were so angry at Scott that if the election were even a week shorter I think he would have lost because it took so long for the base to rally around him.
Bunch of whining sissies we have not grown men.
my fight song:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UqKVXu4Gxyk
Exactly right suzyq!!
fpete13527 (Diary) Thursday, November 4th at 7:34AM EDT (link)And it all started becaue CORNYN continued to back the organge skin guy MONTHS after clear that no one in Florida wanted him.
This put the Republicans in a FUNGUS mode that is only now going to be able to be addressed.
Cornyn and the NRSC caused massive problems for Florida and the Republicans that got created in the wake almost sunk Florida.
It’s not going to happen though.
Cornyn/NRSC need to be dismantled or banned so that they dont continue to be allow to do this in other states.
The WSJ had it right. The biggest losers of 2010 were the GOP Senate NRSC leadership…… they caused the most negative impact to the most states in record time.
They really don't get it
suzyq Thursday, November 4th at 8:38AM EDT (link)I was talking to a lady who works for the Republican party here in Florida and I told her I felt one (of the many) reasons McCollum lost was because the party endorsed him and people were sick and tired of being told what to do by the party.
She said “Well he’s a Republican, don’t you think we should have a say in who we want to represent us?” We were also talking about Crist too during the conversation and she felt the same way about him.
I said “No. That’s for the people to decide. The party should stay out and endorse and help whoever we want to represent us.”
The look on her face was priceless. She was shocked and couldn’t believe that I actually thought that.
That says it all right there. They haven’t learned, but if they don’t they are gone too. We the People have been emboldened and are now active! We see that we actually do have power, and it’s a good feeling!!!!
my fight song:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UqKVXu4Gxyk
Similar story here in Brevard
cwilson (Diary) Thursday, November 4th at 9:58AM EDT (link)I was manning a phone bank on election day, and got into a discussion with the nice older lady coordinator. She was very bitter that McCollum had gone down — although she’d voted for him “reluctantly” in the general election — and claimed McCollum had “waited too long to start his campaign” and “got no support from the Party during the Primary”.
????
I’d never HEARD of Rick Scott until I listened to a Bill McCollum attack ad on him — and I *pay attention*. Her expression when I said I didn’t think the party should take sides in any primary race was…interesting.
But the point is, she was very upset at those “Tea Party types” who were “interfering” in the party process and “messing everything up”.
Nice as she was, she just didn’t get it — and I don’t think she’s educable. We’re going to have to ease these folks out of their positions…or we’re going to be fighting a two front battle in 2012. What was clear, from this incident and several others, is that there is a serious schism in my county GOP apparatus between the entrenched Old Guard and the Tea Party insurgents…and this is in an EXTREMELY conservative county, that went 55% for W even in 2008.
If ye love wealth better than liberty, the tranquility of servitude than the animated contest of freedom — go home from us in peace. We ask not your counsels or arms. Crouch down and lick the hands which feed you. May your chains sit lightly upon you, and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen! –Samuel Adams
Huge schism
suzyq Thursday, November 4th at 1:18PM EDT (link)That’s why I signed up to be a precint captin. I’ve found many others who feel the same way about the Old Guard. We are doing it the right way from the inside out.
Hopefully two years will be enough time to start turning things around from the ground. The fight isn’t over!
my fight song:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UqKVXu4Gxyk
The People of Delaware
Donald Ayotte (Diary) Thursday, November 4th at 7:31AM EDT (link)The people of Delaware were abandoned by the Delaware GOP leadership in the midterm elections.
State GOP Chairman, Tom Ross failed to back Christine O’Donnell in the same fashion that he would have supported Mike Castle, had he won the Delaware Senate Primary. His angry actions resulted in an attitude of showing O’Donnell that, “she was too big for her britches,” and that attitude hurt the entire GOP effort in Delaware.
Ross’ lack of action and lack of leadership was one of the direct causes of our disproportionate loss at the hands of the democrats.
I personally know how many people worked harder then I’ve ever seen in any election and their efforts were wasted by the inaction of the state GOP leadership
I am a ED (elective district chair)s and I am calling for Tom Ross’ resignation. He has failed to represent the grass roots working class republicans in Delaware and no longer represents his constituency.
Unfortunately, there are no articles of impeachment in the GOP State Bylaws. This is another situation we will remedy. Ross’ term is up in May of 2011 and we will be ready.
The DE GOP needs a house-cleaning, but perspective is key.
juumanistra (Diary) Thursday, November 4th at 10:10AM EDT (link)“Disproportionate” might not be the right word: After all, O’Donnell did outperform the standards set by herself in 2008 and Ting in 2006, in terms of shares of the total vote. Of course, both of those were routs, so we’re simply continuing a trend. (“Disproportionate” might also be a bad word because of what a “proportionate” loss would have been: Should we Delawareans be dancing in the streets if O’Donnell had beat the spread and only lost by 2%, as Colin Bonini did?)
Ross does need to be punished, both for meddling in the primary process and for taking his toys and going home during the general. Punishment for the latter, most especially, needs to be meted out because of the effect it had on the down-ticket races: With O’Donnell dragging at the top, Bonini still pulled 49% of the vote for State Treasurer. With a bit more support up top, it’s not hard to see him crossing the finish-line first. But even as we punish Tom Ross for his stewardship of the state GOP, we also need to remember that even the most herculean of efforts probably would not have pulled O’Donnell across the finish-line. To rationalize her defeat off as having been the fault of the state GOP for not supporting her averts one eyes to her glaring deficiencies as a candidate and the rough road to hoe that is winning statewide office in Delaware as a Republican.
this all may be true
uhangtight (Diary) Thursday, November 4th at 4:28PM EDT (link)but when you have a high profile Republican setting up the argument for the Democrat opponent, you have a very steep hill to climb.
I thought I recalled seeing polls showed the percentages of each candidates standing against the Dem Candidates. I believe that she lost about 10 points in the polls the next day due to the Rove Rant. This put her at a disadvantage of trying to overcome the 10 points she lost due (IMHO) to the Rove Rant.
When we the people make our choices known; and, then we have to battle the internal powers that be as well as the Democrats is it any wonder we would lose these seats?
I am so disgusted with the Republican Party and its leadership here in California, I presume this is so in many other states as well. Time to flush these monsters out.
Rove's rant was probably needlessly self-destructive, yes.
juumanistra (Diary) Thursday, November 4th at 5:43PM EDT (link)But Rove didn’t do anything that the Coons camp wasn’t already preparing for. Even if the primary had been a clean and quiet affair, Christine O’Donnell is the type of candidate that opposition campaigns love, for there are simply so many things to attack it’s hard to decide where to begin. That the primary was bloody and O’Donnell conducted herself in a less-than-becoming way in its latter days just was gravy for Coons and company.
Like I said, I think the state GOP needs a solid purge, if only because of their grotesque meddling and anointing in the primary. But, to reiterate, perpsective must be kept: O’Donnell’s loss was exacerbated by the state GOP’s anemic support, but it was mainly the fault of the candidate’s deficiencies and the terrible GOP demography in Delaware. We can argue about the former forever, but let me provide a few numbers to illustrate the latter. The best showing by a GOP Senate candidate in the past decade in Delaware was incumbent Bill Roth in 2000, when he garnered a whole 44% of the vote. (That is, incidentally, the same Roth who gave us all Roth IRAs.) Roth was a five-term incumbent when he lost and 2000 isn’t exactly remembered as an anti-incumbent year. We haven’t elected a Republican to the Senate in sixteen years. To borrow from Jay Nordlinger (who, in turn, was borrowing from Bob Ehrlich), a GOP Senate candidate has to have a more than perfect run to win in Delaware.
O’Donnell obviously was rather far from perfect. And while we rebuild the state party, the search for such a mythical candidate will have to go on.
Best shot taken
SteveLA (Diary) Thursday, November 4th at 5:59PM EDT (link)jumanirsta
Do you believe that the remaining 33 percent of R Senators up for election in 2012 or even R CongressCritters didn’t notice a few things about this election cycle?
Like the lesson of Johnny Mac when challenged by ex TV Weatherman and Spokesperson for “Free Government Money” JD Hayworth. The lesson of don’t play nice during the primary, hit your opponent hard and don’t let them come up for air?
Or the lesson that Castle learned of ignoring, or at worst underestimating your opponent like he did with Ms. O’Donnell.
Have no doubt, incumbents are not going to ignore Tea Party candidates or take for granted any more and they are not going to play nice in primaries after the lessons of this cycle. Call it round one to the insurgency, let’s see if the establishment stays dumb. My bet, they won’t.
Rove and all the rest of the hired political gun slingers on both sides of aisle are loving this election cycle, the rise of the Tea Party and all the rest. They will probably look at this election cycle as the full employment act for political campaign advisers and will be selling their services to incumbents who like the perks of being a chosen one in Washington DC.
Round two, AKA 2012 will be different.
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Competency over ideological purity and litmus tests
I agree to a point
Jack_Savage (Diary) Thursday, November 4th at 6:41PM EDT (link)Johnny Mac also didn’t let Hayworth get to the right of him during the primary, and seems to have had a Come To Jesus moment regarding his conservatism. If other establishment Republicans have a similar clarity of vision, then there will really be no need for the Tea Party and we will all go back to raising our families and working hard – but always with an eye cast to Washington.
The rise of this grassroots movement will always depend on how far the GOP strays from conservatism.
Tent revival or real?
SteveLA (Diary) Thursday, November 4th at 6:47PM EDT (link)Jack
Time will tell if Johnny Mac just attended a tent revival or if he really means his new found conversion.
I give him about 6 months to start pissing off “true conservatives” by voting his convictions, but then again he may just enjoy annoying Obama for the next two years and then meddling in the Presidential race in 2012. He’ll probably get static for not pushing hard for Palin in 2012.
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Competency over ideological purity and litmus tests
Could be real for a while
Jack_Savage (Diary) Thursday, November 4th at 9:04PM EDT (link)Fiscal issues are front and center now, and this subject is right in McCain’s wheelhouse. He is rock solid on it. When things were going well he could diddle around with immigration, etc, but now the house is on fire and McCain will probably win a lot of grudging admirers, at least on this subject.
Lindsay Graham used to play around with that strategy, but I think it was more of strategy than conviction – when it came to the Iraq war, he would gut Obama officials like fish, then go off and say something stupid or squishy.
I think as far as Palin goes, the tote board is even. McCain put her in the spotlight, she paid him back by endorsing him in the primary, and I think he will take the position that she is a big girl and can handle things on her own. He might even consider joking about his endorsement hurting her with her base, and leave it at that.
I learned my lesson from NY-23 when Scozzafava lost, then endorsed the DEMOCRAT
gumbi5 Thursday, November 4th at 7:34AM EDT (link)Now I choose which candidates to send $$ to instead of giving it to the RNC, NRCC or NSCC. I just don’t trust their judgement any more, instead basing my decision on whom is backed by the Club for Growth, SBA, American’s for Prosperity, 10 Buck Fridays and my own homework on the individuals running.
Further, gridlock from a 52/46 Senate can be a beautiful thing. It deprives Obama of being able to pass anything Republicans don’t like, while complicating his blame g
tilting against windmills
rdelbov Thursday, November 4th at 7:59AM EDT (link)in my opinion–picking a fight where i don’t see a fight developing. I have heard one US senator or serious conservative political person blame Jim DeMint. Now maybe people at Politico or MSNBC are blaming Jim DeMint. I don’t take seriousily–ditto for articles at Rollcall or the Hill.com. The MSM wants to spread rumours and sow dissension. I don’t play their game.
The primary voters nominated Angle-Miller-ODonnell and Buck. The Voters in the general election apparently rejected all four of them. In the case of Angle and Buck over 20 million dollars -in each state-was spent in support of their campaign. They had over 20 million each to support them. In Delaware Christine had over 7 million dollars to run her campaign (direct or indirect money)and that’s a record for that state. In small state Alaska Miller had over 3 million-which is another record for a state. These four candidates have fablous campaign budgets–you can’t blame their losses on lack of money. Buck had more money spent on his behave then candidates in Ohio or Illinois.
Yes the voters in CO who picked Maes deserve a lot of blame for Buck’s loss. Maes does too. He should have withdraw. Yet the CO party had enough money to fund a ground game to win the house of representives in that state plus two US house seats. I have not seen one article from CO bemoaning the lack of money at the state party level.
I also checked the FEC records and the NRSC did not spend any money on Jane Norton’s senate campaign. What millions are you talking about? I don’t see it.
The NRSC put much more money-in proportion to the size of the state in CO & NV then CA.
Un-named GOP sources
chihank Thursday, November 4th at 11:36AM EDT (link)These Un-named GOP sources on Capital Hill are real weasels. They talk in the shadows to Politico to trash conservatives, while leaving their identities hidden. I wonder if they are Left Wing moles trying to undermine conservative law makers.
Pennsylvania
billinsuwanee (Diary) Thursday, November 4th at 8:19AM EDT (link)Republicans in Pennsylvania a solid Blue State picked up; 1) US Senator (Jim Toomey) 2) five (5) US Congressman, 3) a Governor, and 4) a solid majority in the state legislature. Not only did they sweep, but now in the legislatures are Bills to;
a. Convert all teachers pensions into 401K’s with 6% matching like everyone else or a hybrid.
b. Schools are no longer to required to fund teacher pensions forcing the unions and teachers to put up more money.
c. Privatize the PA Turnpike system.
d. Firearms Freedom Act.
Pennsylvania is more Conservative than Georgia.
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The Tea Party movement is the greatest civic uprising since the Revolution.
great to hear!
red_oakster (Diary) Thursday, November 4th at 12:28PM EDT (link)And they’ll lift the ban on drilling
That is awesome
runner12 (Diary) Thursday, November 4th at 6:59PM EDT (link)I live in a red state and they have not even been that bold (we just swept all statewide races though so it is a new day). Way to go Pennsylvania, may you help lead the way.
As thrilled and excited as I was on Tuesday.....
JadedByPolitics (Diary) Thursday, November 4th at 8:20AM EDT (link)I settled back down yesterday and started thinking about 2012. I am ready, both physically and financially for MORE “insurgents” to take out the leadership of the both the Democrat and Republican Parties. I do NOT accept their premise that the candidates were flawed because the word flaw does not even begin to address the soul sickness that resides in the halls of Congress by those who have been there too long to remember why they were sent there. I relish the FIGHT against the Political Class and WE The People will be in their faces in a scant year (when new candidates put their name in to run).
There will be more Rubio’s and West’s out there in 2012 for US to pick over the power hungry animals that continue to stalk the halls of Congress.
Unified Patriots – How-To:
Activists Taking Action
55555
kcdude (Diary) Thursday, November 4th at 12:42PM EDT (link)I am excited about the 2010 election cycle because it clearly shows conservatives can be elected. It also was a great road to victory that had just a few bumps. It is great that we are where we are today compared to where we were only two years ago.
Political Parties are what
Conservative_not_Republican (Diary) Thursday, November 4th at 8:27AM EDT (link)the activists make them. That is the lesson of this election. Those who wail because they think perhaps more Senate seats could have bee won by “better” candidates are the same people who said we should support Charlie Crist over Marco Rubio, Trey Grayson over Rand Paul, Robert Bennett over Mike Lee, and Arlen Specter over Pat Toomy. In the past those same individuals said we should support Lincoln Chaffee, Jim Jeffords, and Arnold Schwarznegger.
Study the history of 1964. Then the Republican Party was remade from the bottom up by activists who worked in party caucuses to take over the Presidential nominating process. A bottom-up remake of the Republican Party through the primary process has begun and it must be continued. Activists need to continue to help find and assist conservatives who are willing to mount primary challenges to incumbents.
It is seldom that liberty of any kind is lost all at once.–David Hume
Quoted in The Road to Serfdom by F.A. Hayek
I agree.
TFS Thursday, November 4th at 9:43AM EDT (link)Right now we need to make a list of establishment Senate Republicans that we want to primary and then work to recruit true conservatives to run against them. We should be working on this now.
If we start now, then we can find top quality candidates and start building up their grassroots support and help them be better prepared to run. Some of the Tea Party candidates had difficulty because they were suddenly thrusted into the limelight and aggressively attacked without really being prepared for it. Now that we know what the liberals are going to do, we can be ready and have our candidates ready.
At the top of my list of establishment Republicans that need to go is Lindsey Graham, but he doesn’t run again until 2014. But, in the meantime, we need to primary 2012 Republican Senate candidates like Orrin Hatch of Utah.
John Coryn isn’t up for reelection until 2014 which is why he feels safe at this time. But we can diminish his power and the power of the other establishment Senators by increasing the number of conservative Republicans in the Senate.
Everyone is talking about the 2012 Presidential Nominee, but just as important right now are the 2012 Republican Senate candidates.
I guess I expected this.
NightTwister (Diary) Thursday, November 4th at 8:42AM EDT (link)It’s all Jane Norton’s fault, huh. Whatever helps you sleep at night.
“Baseball fits America well because it expresses our longing for the rule of law while licensing our resentment of law givers.” ― Major League Commissioner of Baseball A. Bartlett Giamatti
555 bottom up
mdd1956 Thursday, November 4th at 8:48AM EDT (link)There is very little distinction between Mike Castle and a Democrat.
It is better for the RINOs to loose, we are better off with DEMs in power than Rs w/ RINOs calling the shots.
WE need to keep working on the bottom, the top will follow.
5 X 5, nt
bigredone Thursday, November 4th at 9:05AM EDT (link)RNC
eldstenorge Thursday, November 4th at 9:07AM EDT (link)This is why, with what Cornyn and others did this year, I gave no one cent to the party itself and will never again give to the party. We have to learn there are principles worth fighting for and fight for them. This may mean not voting for certain Republicans. And, Michael Castle proved where his principles were. After the GOP attacked Christine O’Donnell in the primary in Delaware, she was no longer leading Coons in the polls, which she had been prior to that. We did not stand up for her like we should have either. And, Harry Reid is an embarrassment. Nevada and the Unions said they had to have Harry Reid and pulled out all stops. I will never vacation in Nevada again. The people were hoodwinked. Alaska and Joe Miller. The Murkowski family thinks they are Gods and can do whatever they want. Alaska has shown us that our national debt, the problems we have, mean nothing to them. They just want as much federal money and earmarks as possible and the rest of the country can die as far as they are concerned. And, our Senators in office right now refusing to strip her of positions and plum committees showed where their hearts are. Their hearts are not with the people. The blame in on the NRA and Cornyn. If they continue this they are not going to get anywhere and people, if they turn away from the party again, will not come back this time. We all need to look at 2Chronicles 7:14 and pray for our country. I think really, that is the only thing which can help us now. The Lord helped us in our establishment and he can help us again today. We just need to ask. As Pres. John Adams said: “Our Constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate to the government of any other.” Do we really wonder why we have the problems we do today/
Jim DeMint
bclare Thursday, November 4th at 9:08AM EDT (link)should be the next leader. Because those idiots currently running the NRSC are Not Really Strong Conservatives
Agree, but disagree
Paul Seale (Diary) Thursday, November 4th at 9:21AM EDT (link)Let me start off by saying what I always believe – groups like the NSRC should stay out of primaries. Period.
If they had, some of this would be a moot point and we would be responding to a thread focused on what needs to be done to keep Democrats in check during the upcoming lame duck session, which imo, is more worthy of ink.
That said, people forget that there were groups like the TEA Party express , Sarah Palin and Rush/Sean/etc who also had a hand in these matters. Not just Jim DeMint and the NSRC who figure into the equation.
Miller was an outstanding candidate who legitimately won the primary. The fact that he lost to a write in candidate by a wide margin cannot be blamed solely on the NSRC or Demint. It could have been a repudiation of Palin, or Democrats in the state rallying to help elect Murkowski. We would need to check exit polls to know for sure.
Buck, likewise, was holding his own until the end. I was shocked to see the exit polls with Bennett up. Could it be the vaunteded Democrat ground game turning out people? Dont know. Need more data.
Those two candidates were sound candidates working from sound positions for the most part.
With that said, we owe no excuse for Angle and O’Donnell who won not because of specific positions, but just to spite “the man.”
While Angle had a little more stable underpinning, we should not pin her loss to the NSRC or DeMint. She was a poor candidate who was elected solely on the basis of waving the TEA Party banner. People voted on that basis alone – and the only candidate who could put Ried within striking distance of re-election won.
As for O’Donnell, she was someone who could not stand on her own two feet. Again, there were pleas from her for Palin, et al to save her candidacy. They did. Rush, Sarah, Sean, et al jumped in and drilled Castle. Much of what was said was deserved – some not so much.
In either case, Castle could not survive the onslaught and O’Donnell won.
When it came to the general election, guess what, she had no legs to stand on and lost substantially when it was solely about her and the bearded marxist(tm).
Im not saying I would have voted for Castle, but I dont live in Deleware and do not know or understand enough about their state political culture to make a judgement. I do know O’Donnell was a terribad candidate. Remember, she was not a witch!
In short, the Buckely Rule(tm) is still in effect. We shouldnt trip over our selves to vote for the first guy who claims to stand for Constitutional values or the TEA Party name. We must strive to vote for the candidate who is most conservative, but electable.
How do you define electable? Yes, that means someone who can win in the general election. That doesnt mean you drop the first part of the statement and go all “RINO.” It does mean, however, that before we push a challenge to someone, you consider the district they are from.
Hope that makes sense. Lets stop pointing fingers and start focusing on policy – and doing the will of the people.
Agreed, and let's share some blame here.
jeffreywturner (Diary) Thursday, November 4th at 9:45AM EDT (link)You pointed out that Angle and O’Donnell won their nominations essentially to “spite the man”.
I think we need to be more direct in assigning blame to the primary voters for this. In O’Donnell’s case it was just plain foolish. She is great, as an ACTIVIST, not as a Senate candidate. As for Angle, the truth is I doubt she’d have been nominated, except that there were two other credible candidates splitting the “rational” Republican primary vote, and in fairness, both of them were reasonably conservative. In fairness to Angle though, I think she was still at least somewhat credible, and an extensive ground game could have put her on par with her polling and possibly delivered a victory.
The larger point is, primary voters need to be encouraged to vote with their brains and not their hearts.
“Life is too short, can’t we all just eat pork and kill some terrorists?”
The DE GOP recruited Castle to leave his safe district
cwilson (Diary) Thursday, November 4th at 10:10AM EDT (link)and run for Senator. You don’t think they could have found SOME republican SOMEWHERE in the state, who — while perhaps not being quite as conservative as O’Donnell — might be expected to be a BIT more conservative than your average Democrat?
In THIS year, with the 2009 town hall meetings and the rising tide of anger against the overreaches of Democrats, and the populist conservative energy of the Tea Parties…the state GOP went out of their way to “recruit” to carry their banner, the single most repugnant GOP representative to the very people the party hoped would carry them to victory.
dumb dumb dumb dumb
Seeing that, of *course* the Tea Parties jumped to ANY alternative — COD or whoever else stepped up to provide something BETTER than the DEGOP’s “recruit”.
If the DEGOP had done a better job recruiting — and reading the state and national mood of their own primary voters — then COD would not have run — or would not have won the primary against a more palatable candidate than Castle.
If ye love wealth better than liberty, the tranquility of servitude than the animated contest of freedom — go home from us in peace. We ask not your counsels or arms. Crouch down and lick the hands which feed you. May your chains sit lightly upon you, and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen! –Samuel Adams
The state GOP pitched their best -- and only -- viable candidate.
juumanistra (Diary) Thursday, November 4th at 10:44AM EDT (link)I don’t think you realize how threadbare the state GOP bench is in Delaware. Going into this election, we had all of one statewide offices occupied by those with an R after their name, and he’s the state’s Auditor-for-life. I’m not even sure you could call him conservative: The position he runs for does not exactly require the development of sophisticated policy positions. Beyond that, we’ve got an eclectic band of quirky state assemblymen, but they’re almost to a man old warhorses from safe seats in Lower Delaware who much prefer the perks of power in Legislative Hall to doing the heavy-lifting of winning statewide office. To find a credible conservative candidate for statewide office, we’d have to go and dig up Pete duPont. Yes, the Pete duPont first elected governor in the Reagan Revolution of 1980. So, while O’Donnell was an atrocious candidate, the state GOP can’t be faulted for poor recruitment: They got the only credible candidate left to run for the Senate primary and…well, we all know how that ended. (Of course, this also assumes that even if the state GOP wasn’t playing favorites and had remained hands-off, Castle wouldn’t have run, which I sincerely doubt. And if Castle had run, O’Donnell runs as well, given that her entire candidacy was explicitly based on providing voters a choice of someone who’s not Mike Castle.)
And for the record? Castle is more conservative than the average Democrat. In Delaware. Castle’s trouble in the primaries arose exclusively from the fact that the traditional junior partner in the state GOP’s coalition — down-state conservatives — were markedly more motivated and assertive in this election cycle, while Castle’s own base was for the most part dormant. (Or, as at least one Castle supporter has alleged to me, outright banned from competing in the primary: They had registered as Democrats in 2008 for the Democratic primary and never bothered changing back, until it was too late to do so.) A combination of an unexpectedly strong conservative showing south of the C&D Canal combined with an unexpectedly depressed and diluted New Castle County base created the perfect storm for bringing down Mike Castle. It’s a net good for the GOP House caucus and the conservative cause in general, but let’s also try to remember the context.
Yeh I have to disagree here.
jeffreywturner (Diary) Thursday, November 4th at 11:36AM EDT (link)You make the point that Castle was the most repugnant representative without acknowledging that he is the ONLY representative, at least at the Federal level, because DE only has one seat in the House.
Also, any vote analysis would show that Castle is more conservative than the average Democrat, especially the average DE Democrat. In fact, he is more conservative than several Republicans, especially in the Northeast.
“Life is too short, can’t we all just eat pork and kill some terrorists?”
I didn't mean "Representative"...
cwilson (Diary) Thursday, November 4th at 12:07PM EDT (link)in the proper noun sense of “Member of the US Congress”, I mean “representative” in the generic sense of “one who represents (the Party, etc)” But, I see how the wording could be taken that way…sorry for the confusion.
As far as Castle’s “conservatism”, here are the ACU ratings:
2009 56%
2008 28%
2007 20%
2006 52%
2005 28%
2004 52%
2003 40%
2002 76%
2001 48%
2000 68%
1999 44%
Excluding 2008 and 2009 (which I’ll get to below), you know what pattern I see? In even years, when he’s running for office, Castle had DRAMATICALLY higher ratings than in off years, when he felt safe. Worse, over the last decade both his “high” and “low” ratings were trending down.
Granted, a few NE senators (Maine Twins…) had lower ACU ratings, as did Jumpin’ Jim Jeffords — but Castle’s *pattern* is one of “how can I fool ‘em today”. If he were an honest, conviction politician then his ratings would NOT oscillate so much; he would be consistently in the 20′s, or consistently in the 50′s, or 70′s, or whatever. But this pattern is one of snakelike deception of the homestate voters — and apparently, the Tea Party types weren’t up for someone p***ing on their foot and calling it rain anymore.
With respect to 2008 and 2009: in ’08 the R brand was so beaten down — and the Hillary/Obama support (especially when compared to the foodfight and lethargy on the R side) must have made Castle feel safe, even in an election year, to revert to his true norm. However…the anger unleashed during 2009 (Town Halls, etc) put the fear of God — or, at least, of the voters — in to him, and flipped his usual “20% in off-year” pattern.
If ye love wealth better than liberty, the tranquility of servitude than the animated contest of freedom — go home from us in peace. We ask not your counsels or arms. Crouch down and lick the hands which feed you. May your chains sit lightly upon you, and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen! –Samuel Adams
Uh...huh.
juumanistra (Diary) Thursday, November 4th at 1:04PM EDT (link)Or, in an alternative theory for explaining the oscillations, the vagaries of the legislative calendar and the ACU scoring system aligned to produce lower marks in off-years. True, it’s not nearly as romantic as a conspiratorial Mike Castle plotting against the GOP in off-years to sate his Inner Liberal, but it is just as valid as your theory of duplicity unless you’ve more evidence beyond speculation.
He could well have been playing those of us in Delaware fools. If so, good riddance. But I’m also not willing to defame a man who’s generally dealt with his constituents on the level without a bit more in terms of substantiation.
How's this for a bit of substantiation of Castle's liberal mind?
seattlebruce Thursday, November 4th at 4:01PM EDT (link)http://michellemalkin.com/2009/06/26/the-8-cap-and-tax-republicans/
In a year that included massive tax and spend boondoggles like stimulus and the socialist tax and spending bill, Castle decided it was OK to throw in Crap and Tax?
What more do you need to know about this guy? For disclosure’s sake, we’ve also got Mark Kirk and Dave Reichert (from my state) on that list…and both were re-elected.
Do you consider this vote for the enviro whacko boondoggle carted around by AlGore to be dealing with his constituents “on the level?”
It's possible to have immense distaste for a man's politics without having a distaste for the man.
juumanistra (Diary) Thursday, November 4th at 4:57PM EDT (link)I’m quite glad that Mike Castle’s gone from the GOP House caucus: Cap-and-trade was the line in the sand for me, as it was proof he either didn’t get the importance of cheap energy (and thus was unfit for office) or that he did, but thought the threat of global warming was greater (which makes him unacceptable, as well.) I hope I hadn’t given the impression that I was a fan of his: I consciously skipped the primary because I would not vote for him and could not make myself vote for O’Donnell.
There’s an important skulking horse to deal with here, as well. As said above, cap-and-trade was my Rubicon: Once Castle crossed it, I couldn’t support him. (Well, in the primary, at any rate.) But I also recognize that my Congresscritter in the House answers not my own, personal whims but those of the majority of his constituents. And fighting global warming polls well in Delaware, especially the population centers of New Castle County. So while I cannot condone what Castle did on cap-and-trade, I do understand it, even if I as well don’t think it was right.
But back to my point. I refer to dealing with his constituents “on the level” in the sense of being a decent human being: You won’t ever find reports of Mike Castle assaulting someone who asked him a question he didn’t like. He got elected the old-fashioned way, shaking hands and kissing babies at every high football field from Marydel to Bear. He is, from my own experiences, generally a nice guy: As such, I’m willing to give him the benefit of the doubt before tarring him as being disingenuous with the ideological aligning of his votes in the manner you hypothesize.
OK, valid argument, but..
jeffreywturner (Diary) Thursday, November 4th at 2:55PM EDT (link)Now you need to look at the ACU ratings for DE’s other two representatives to Congress (ie: their Senators) over the same period, both of whom were Democrats. Then, average those two out, and see if Castle’s ratings are lower. Without even looking I can tell you they won’t be, even in the non-election years. That is why I don’t think it is fair for you to imply that he isn’t more conservative than “the average Democrat”.
Again, I’m not saying he is by any means a true conservative, but he’s certainly more so than the average Democrat.
“Life is too short, can’t we all just eat pork and kill some terrorists?”
DE Senator ACU ratings
cwilson (Diary) Thursday, November 4th at 6:55PM EDT (link)OK, here ya go:
Biden(D) Roth(R)
1999 4 84
2000 16 86
Biden(D) Carper(D)
2001 12 24
2002 10 25
2003 10 26
2004 0 12
2005 8 8
2006 4 20
Biden(D) Carper(D)
Note: this is after the D’s took over the Senate, and Reid controlled the flow of legislation:
2007 0 8
2008 0 0
Kaufman(D) Carper(D)
2009 4 4
While, granted, Biden is about as anti-ACU as one might guess, Carper was much less so. What’s interesting is that Carper’s numbers hovered (with some exceptions) in the 20′s — until Reid began controlling the agenda.
My suspicion is that Castle, facing election only every six years, would vote in the 20′s (as is his off-year pattern) five times out of six, and bump up to the 50′s only for re-election.
However…since he “promised” he was only running to fulfil the remaining four years, and wouldn’t have run for re-election: we could expect him to behave according to his off-year pattern for all four years: in the 20′s. That makes Castle about the same as Carper.
Now, granted, Coons will be much more like Biden: 0′s to 10′s. But…couldn’t the DEGOP have found ANYONE in the entire state who might have, I dunno, rated a 50%? Would THAT person have been able to hold back O’Donnell’s (a 90% or above ACUer) primary challenge, and still have been acceptable to the mobilized primary voters? How would THAT person have faired against Coons in today’s electorate?
THAT’s the problem: the DEGOP defaulted to the good old boy, next in line, gee he’s been congressman for a while so time for a promotion pattern that got us Bob Dole in 1996.
My point is if the establishment wants to blame the Tea Parties for “bad” candidates running for these open seats…they’re looking in the wrong direction. Most of those candidates stepped up ONLY because the stinking crap sandwich the state parties served up was unacceptable. (e.g. Trey Whoever in KY that Rand Paul beat, etc etc)
If ye love wealth better than liberty, the tranquility of servitude than the animated contest of freedom — go home from us in peace. We ask not your counsels or arms. Crouch down and lick the hands which feed you. May your chains sit lightly upon you, and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen! –Samuel Adams
I appreciate your thoroughness here.
jeffreywturner (Diary) Friday, November 5th at 9:32AM EDT (link)I will point out now, using your numbers, that the “average” for the Dem senators here calculates to 9.75%
Castle’s average was 47%. Even if you take out the even years so you are only looking at Castle’s non-election years, his average is 39%, which would still make him approximately 4 times more conservative than the average Dem. Your 20% number was rock bottom which he only hit once in 11 years, and even that is more than twice as conservative as the average Dem.
Still, I get your point, but I just think that the GOP bench is so thin in DE that the establishment just kinda defaulted to Castle.
I think we can both agree that the GOP just needs to develop more talent in DE.
“Life is too short, can’t we all just eat pork and kill some terrorists?”
"Wow, this would require savvy, acumen and respect for the base"
seattlebruce Thursday, November 4th at 3:52PM EDT (link)“If the DEGOP had done a better job recruiting — and reading the state and national mood of their own primary voters — then COD would not have run — or would not have won the primary against a more palatable candidate than Castle.”
Wow, this would require savvy, acumen and respect for the base, none of which the national GOP and many state GOP apparatuses have.
Sarah the king-maker
Pirohy Thursday, November 4th at 5:29PM EDT (link)needed to mind her own business and let the Nevada voters choose among 3 conservative candidates.
She helped propel Angle to victory. Couldn’t she see that Angle would have difficulty going up against Reid? If she viewed 5 minutes of an Angle interview it would be obvious.
btw, I like Angle and donated to her. She would be fine for Utah or Idaho but is too shaky to put up in a purple state.
Nick
Paul Seale-
Scope (Diary) Thursday, November 4th at 11:31AM EDT (link)Miller was a great candidate, BUT, don’t blame the NRSC solely for his loss. The NRSC sent their top attorney to Alaska, to help Murky, immediately after she lost the primary. If I’m not mistaken, the NRSC was slow to get on board the Miller campaign. Other than DeMint the Republicans refused to strip her of her committee positions, even after she lost the primary, fair and square. Alasaka loves their pork, and those in AK with their hands out, couldn’t tolerate losing out on their money for bridges to nowhere, or roads to their personal residences, as Murky has done. Yup, I bet there were many Democrats that can’t see her lose, and crossed over to vote for her. The Dem. would have not had any seniority in the Senate, and he would have been on the bottom of the pork food chain. If the idiot Republicans voted to strip her of her committee positions, she would not have had the appeal to the AK freeloaders, and she made sure to remind the people in AK of just that. To say that the NRSC had little to do with the Murkowski debacle is ludicrous.
To say that the only reason that Angle and O’Donnell won their primaries was just to “spite the man” denigrates every voter that voted for them in the primary, and in essence calls them stupid. How haughty of you.
You said- “When it came time for the general election (O’Donnell) had no legs to stand on.” People in her own party tried to cut her legs off, but, they did not succeed. It’s very sad that you decided to buy into the Rove and Krauthammer talking points. They actually outdid the MSM with their campaign against O’Donnell. Imagine how well she would have done, even if they only kept their mouths shut. That’s OK, Rove especially, relegated himself to the bargain basement status with many many conservatives. He has finally outed himself as the moderate “compassionate conservative” that almost put the entire Republican party permanently out to pasture, and that’s with those that were still willing to give him a chance. By the rest of your comment, I can see you are in his thought camp.
In case you missed all the chatter that has debunked the “Buckley Rule”, which by the way was never a rule, it has been resurrected as nothing more than an excuse to try to convince the lowly unwashed idiots, especially against those in the Tea Parties, that they can forget about who the person is, or what he/she brings to the table, but, concentrate only on whether they can win an election. Buckley didn’t even abide by those words, more than once. If being electable was the only qualification for candidates, I highly doubt you would see a Senator Rubio today, or a Congressman Benishek or West, or many other great winners. If you can win in a primary, you are “electable”, period.
Except O'Donnell *did* win to spite The Man.
juumanistra (Diary) Thursday, November 4th at 12:47PM EDT (link)Or, at the very least, to spite a man. And that man’s name was Mike Castle. The entire pitch of her candidacy was that she was not Mike Castle: She spent precious little time cultivating a positive agenda of her own during the primary, while focusing predominantly on reminding folks why they didn’t like Mike Castle and that she was not him. (She succeeded wonderfully in doing so, for the record.) It’s not denigrating in the slightest to DE primary voters to say that O’Donnell won because she was a vehicle for popular discontent with incumbent: It’s a bit denigrating to her, but given her conspiratorial musings about the Mike Castle camp, she deserves the scorn she gets.
To dismiss the criticisms of Karl Rove and Charles Krauthammer as mere talking points is willful denial of reality at its worst. Yes, she received a terrible shake from the state GOP, something for which we will hopefully get heads to roll for between now and 2012. And yes, the media gave her a raw deal as well. But at the end of the day, when the opposition research can hop onto YouTube and find video of you on cable television talking about dabbling in witchcraft, you’re well on your way to being on par with Alvin Greene. (And all of that is before getting into her other scandal, conspiratorial musings, utter lack of intellectual or practical accomplishment and/or distinction, and a thousand other flaws real or perceived.) She was a deeply, deeply flawed candidate: Even if one did not think that necessarily doomed her, it is impossible not to concede Rove, Krauthammer, eta al don’t have a point about her baggage and its effects on her chances.
Re: electability, I’ll just make one point. Winning a primary does not make you electable in the general election. It makes you electable amongst your own ideological peers. That is a critical distinction. And, unfortunately, for those of us in bluish states, our ideology is in the minority of the voting populace. So, if we are serious about winning, we require candidates who can appeal beyond their own base: If we can find a rock-ribbed conservative who can do that by force of personality and spreading the Good News, excellent. But most of the time, we cannot, so electability must temper our choices, at least for federal and statewide office.
I have a second point to add about electability, actually, and it ties into my previous point about deny O’Donnell’s flaws. I’ve long argued that Christine O’Donnell was a breed apart from other Tea Party darlings in terms of her badness: That she was the Republican Alvin Greene of this election cycle. As while you can debate the merits of Sharron Angle and Ken Buck, both were credible candidates, with the former having done her time in the Nevada state assembly and the latter being a state district attorney. O’Donnell had nothing comparable: Her greatest relevant achievements were pulling together an 11,000 vote write-in campaign against Tom Carper in 2006 due the Jan Ting boondoggle and only losing Sussex County by 2,000 votes in 2008 to Joe Biden. If O’Donnell brought to the table the skills and background of Rubio, Toomey, Miller, Johnson, or a half-dozen other major Tea Party winners on Tuesday, then gnashing of teeth would be in order. As it stands? She was reprising her role as the 2008 sacrificial lamb, and we need to get over that.
juumanistra- Gee, I could have read your entire post over at Kos
Scope (Diary) Thursday, November 4th at 4:04PM EDT (link)or maybe on the Politico.
Simply because you disagree with something does not render it, ipso facto, wrong.
juumanistra (Diary) Thursday, November 4th at 5:22PM EDT (link)Yes, you could have read something along the lines of my commentary about O’Donnell on dKos or any number other sites that’re ideologically aligned with the Left. (Whether you’d have found the pains taken to distinguish her from the rest of the GOP’s bumper crop is less likely.) Such coincidence does not invalidate the points raised above, no more than does denying the sky being blue changes the sky’s color. You are free to disagree with my assessment that O’Donnell is a deeply flawed candidate, or that she could not overcome the combination of her own baggage and Delaware’s demographics, or that she is far worse a candidate than Joe Miller and Sharron Angle. But your disagreeing with my assessments does not, per se, make them incorrect.
I’d welcome a robust debate about the electoral postmortem in Delaware. But sticking one’s head in the sand and asserting that O’Donnell would have won but for the state GOP not supporting her aggressively enough is not the way to get there: It is simply a variation on the Obama administration’s insistence the election was the result of poor messaging and the bad economy. To move forward, her boosters must acknowledge that her critics had valid points about her electability: They needn’t agree in the slightest, but we’ll just keep arguing at rather than with each other so long as those who weren’t keen on O’Donnell are written off as either shills of the “establishment” or as Leftist fifth-columnists.
That can go the other way also
Scope (Diary) Thursday, November 4th at 6:02PM EDT (link)Just because you agree with something doesn’t make it ipso facto correct.
I’m not sure what you expect to gain in having a robust debate about O’Donnell, or why she lost the election. The election is over, move on. If you want to keep reiterating your disagreements with O’Donnell, you are doing nothing more than gloating at this point. Is there some particular gain in going over and over what you believe was wrong with her as a candidate? Are you trying to “warn” any future candidates not to run if they have any flaws? Are you perfect, with no flaws. Have you never in your life said something that you would regret later? I don’t think so. There is no such animal as a perfect person.
I don’t know who the heck you are talking about in your comment, but, I never said the first word about the DE GOP. I don’t know them, nor do I give two flying craps about them. Until the people of DE elect/choose better Republicans to represent the state party, it appears that they will make the choice for the citizens of DE.
Oh, but only if agreement *could* make it correct!
juumanistra (Diary) Thursday, November 4th at 6:51PM EDT (link)Alas, you are quite correct: Belief does not make it so, anymore than disbelief makes not so. If only it did, though! Think of all the good that could be done: Cap-and-trade would be the greatest thing since sliced bread! And Barney Frank’s head would be mounted on the wall of the GOP’s rumpus room while Senator Sharron Angle was sworn in.
At any rate, I think there’s a lot to be gained from a rigorous postmortem of the DE Senate race, because for better or worse, both the Tea Party and the establishment seemed to double-down on its primary in one of the bloodier clashes between the two and what it produced is rife with lessons for future primaries, on the importance of candidate quality, and the limitations of conservatism alone to carry a candidate. I think the lessons in candidate quality are most important: If we are to insist that parties not meddle in the primaries, then primary voters must become their own vetters. Which means that pesky electability issue creeps back into the equation, which is something I think ought to be talked about. (That said, if your primary sales pitch is, “I’m electable!”, then you ought to lose the primary.)
Electability segues rather nicely into the subject of flaws, actually. All men are flawed: This has been true since Adam and Eve expelled from the Garden of Eden. I concur wholeheartedly that flawless people do not exist and that everyone has done something stupid in their life which they, at some later date, regret. With that said, the point has always been that we want candidates with as few flaws as possible. Or, for those who have many, have a plethora of positive features to off-set their flaws. This is why I have gone to such pains to segregate O’Donnell out from Buck, Angle, et al. While you could make the argument that the latter were flawed candidates, they still brought sufficient positives — legislative accomplishment, service as a prosecuting attorney, and so on — to off-set their problems. O’Donnell had nothing of the sort, at least in the concrete. To answer another of your questions, I’d very much like to send a message that no more Christine O’Donnells will be tolerated. I also know that such is a pipe-dream, as large contingents of the primary-going GOP voted for her.
Re: broaching the state GOP, my apologies. In my previous post I was merely being thorough in attempting to head-off any issues raised with regard to the post before that. Rather convoluted, all things considered. Or maybe my brain’s simply stuck on the capriciousness of the state GOP and the need to beat some sense into Tom Ross. Either or.
I've been reading your posts
runner12 (Diary) Thursday, November 4th at 7:35PM EDT (link)and I must say that your assesment of the ground game in DE is fascinating and informative.
I agree with you that we should not lump the rest of the Tea Party candidates in with O’Donnell. While I am sure she is a nice person, she was clearly not a candidate that I would have chosen to run in the primary. The truth is that she made some immature decisions when she was young and unfortunately she chose to air them on national television. If she had spoken about her past in a more articulate manner and in a different forum, it may have been different. But she didn’t and here we are.
Where I disagree with you a bit or rather would like some clarifcation is when you said that “electabillity must temper our choices” with regards to statewide and federal offices in blue states. I do not think that most people would oppose less government intrusion in their lives, lower taxes, expanded freedoms, and fiscal responsibillity whether they were in a blue state or not. I am with you that the messenger will have to be able to reach a broader base, but the message must stay the same. We cannot compromise on that one bit. Conservatism is the only means of saving this country from what we are seeing in Greece and France. It is the only thing that will restore the Republic. It is a non-negotiable no matter where we live.
I do think the analysis of the O’Donnell candidacy is warranted and valuable. But by tommorrow we should move on. I think we can all agree that we cannot put up anymore O’Donnells. Again I enjoyed reading a civil discussion from you and those who responded to you. Thanks all.
juumanistra- Have at it
Scope (Diary) Thursday, November 4th at 7:43PM EDT (link)I very honestly didn’t read past your first few sentences. My bad.
You are so into yourself, your ideas, and your opinions that it is hard to find one’s way out of the deep weeds of your comments. I am not so focused or inclined to try.
Have at it!
Well said
uhangtight (Diary) Thursday, November 4th at 6:28PM EDT (link)And, true! If they win the Primary, they are electable and the Repubs better darn well stop cutting new fresh candidates off at the knees. They will find themselves out to pasture..
55555
Scope (Diary) Thursday, November 4th at 7:45PM EDT (link)no further comment needed.
To briefly address the "will of the people" nonsense
aesthete (Diary) Thursday, November 4th at 9:14PM EDT (link)Of course voters are terrible at voting: it’s one of the reasons that allowing more decisions to be made in the free market is generally a good idea. People are generally good at what they are interested in, at what they value, or at what they are required to do to get something they want. It follows that since voting is nether a particularly compelling thing for most people, nor politics interesting for most, voters will suck at voting, if they are coming from the general populace.It also follows that if one’s vote is not particularly valued, the reasons for giving someone your vote will be of the same value that you hold your vote. The old Churchill quotes about democracy being the worst form of government and the five minute conversation with the voter come to mind. Voting is generally preferable to rule by a small, connected group or one person, but I don’t think that we need to take out our fainting salts whenever someone says something that might impugn the knowledge of voters: their actions should speak for themselves, and if you think that the politicians elected by the people are the work of an educated and informed populace, you’re sadly, and wildly, mistaken.
“It is a popular delusion that the government wastes vast amounts of money through inefficiency and sloth. Enormous effort and elaborate planning are required to waste this much money.”
-P.J. O’Rourke
Good points about the ground game.
jeffreywturner (Diary) Thursday, November 4th at 9:38AM EDT (link)Also important to note is that even with DE seat, which IMHO is the only one where you can say that DeMint et. al. were at least in some way responsible for influencing the nominating process, that still would not have made the difference in taking control of the Senate. Furthermore, that race, like the one in WV is not for a full term, so we won’t have to wait 6 years for another shot at it. In fact, I’d say there is a good chance we see a bitter, divisive Dem primary for that seat next time around between Coons and Beau Biden that leave the eventual winner vulnerable in the general.
“Life is too short, can’t we all just eat pork and kill some terrorists?”
Jeff...DeMint played *zero* role in getting O'Donnell nominated.
eburke (Diary) Thursday, November 4th at 12:35PM EDT (link)He endorsed her *one week* before the general election.
But, let’s not let facts get in the way of a recurring pattern of yours of dissing the conservative/tea party wing of the Party wherever possible.
“All that need be done for evil to triumph is for good men to do nothing.”
Unified Patriots
On the contrary
jeffreywturner (Diary) Thursday, November 4th at 5:46PM EDT (link)I exhalt the conservative wing of the party whenever possible, and I am very much a part of that faction within the party.
I am elated in the fact that we essentially drove out Specter and now have Toomey in his place. I couldn’t be more pleased with the absolute smack-down that Rubio placed on Crist.
And believe it or not, DeMint is my favorite Senator from an ideological and policy standpoint.
My only real beef with him in the cycle was the DE contest. I just think he (and Sarah et. al.) should have been a bit more judicious in jumping behind O’Donnell before the primary was over. Did he make the difference alone? Probably not. But combined with Sarah, Rush, Hannity etc., I think the outside endorsers may have boosted her from 48% or 49% up to the 53% she won with. We will never know.
If DeMint really wants to “clean house” in the GOP, he need look no further than his fellow SC Senator Lindsey Graham. If DeMint would back a primary challenge to Graham next time around, that would be a really smart move, because SC is a state where we should be able to easily elect another solidly conservative Senator like Mr. DeMint rather than a “compromiser in-chief” like Mr. Graham.
“Life is too short, can’t we all just eat pork and kill some terrorists?”
I will accept at face value, jeffrey, your assertion
eburke (Diary) Thursday, November 4th at 7:39PM EDT (link)that you are a Jim DeMint conservative.
However, you are factually incorrect that Jim played a role in Christine’s primary win. He did not endorse her until approx. a week before the general election.
“All that need be done for evil to triumph is for good men to do nothing.”
Unified Patriots
Well, that is the part we can never know.
jeffreywturner (Diary) Thursday, November 4th at 9:10PM EDT (link)She got about 3% more than she needed to win the primary. Did the outside endorsements by headliners like DeMint in the last week influence 3% or more of the primary voters to support her? I won’t say it did, but I don’t think it is out of the question.
Also, I do appreciate you not questioning my commitment here. Thank you for that. It is more than I can say for some folks on RS. I’ve posted here for more than 5 years, and yet, people have gone so far as to call me a troll simply for questioning the wisdom of nominating O’Donnell in this race. Mind you, we are only talking electoral strategy here, not issues or policy.
Look, no one loves the GOP more than I do. We are the party that ended slavery, gave women the right to vote, overcame Democrat filibusters to pass the Civil Rights and Voting Rights Acts, defeated Communism and ended the Cold War. We were the liberal party when being liberal was right and just, and we are the conservative party now that being conservative is right and just. However, we couldn’t have accomplished any of those things if we hadn’t won elections first. By the same token we will never defeat the abortion industry or socialism if we don’t win elections now. That is why we need to vote with our brains instead of our hearts. That’s all I have been trying to say all along.
“Life is too short, can’t we all just eat pork and kill some terrorists?”
Thanks for your thoughtful reply and kind words, jeffrey.
eburke (Diary) Thursday, November 4th at 10:54PM EDT (link)I agree with the vast majority of what you had to say.
*However*, I will reiterate yet one more time that DeMint endorsed O’Donnell one week before the *General* election; he took no position in the primary
“All that need be done for evil to triumph is for good men to do nothing.”
Unified Patriots
Nope, he endorsed her on...
ffc99 Thursday, November 4th at 11:13PM EDT (link)September 10th, 4 days before the primary.
OK - I missed that.
jeffreywturner (Diary) Thursday, November 4th at 11:17PM EDT (link)I thought I remembered DeMint endorsing her right before the primary along with Sarah, and about the same time Hannity and Rush started talking her up. If however, DeMint didn’t get on board until a week before the general, then obviously that had no impact on the primary.
“Life is too short, can’t we all just eat pork and kill some terrorists?”
The elephant in the senate cloakroom
Vassar Bushmills (Diary) Thursday, November 4th at 9:44AM EDT (link)….is that in their recriminations they do not even acknowledge or celebrate the great victory of the American people on Tuesday.
Now we know where their center is. This is news we can use.
Hat’s off, by the way, to Haystack, for the work he did for Sharron and Christine. Sorry, Dave, the fix was probably always in in Vegas, and probably legal in a wink and nod sort of a way. Good news is Reid will be perceived as a crook by all of America now, not just our side. Sharron came much closer than any establishment Republican, no matter what they say.
Delaware on the other hand, the GOP establishment openly conspired against CO’D to the aid of Coons. 20% voted for Coons. They have no one to blame but themselves. But what the Delaware GOP began, the citizens of Delaware need to finish, and go thru that party apparatus with a meat cleaver.
Conservatism is on the rise, and citizen participation (sometimes called Teat Parties) is in the ascendancy. Before they can reach out and touch the hearts and minds of other Delawarans, they need to remove this cyst. If it takes 20 years, still, get it done.
Elitism will die
Plumb_Bob (Diary) Thursday, November 4th at 9:48AM EDT (link)The Tea Party sent a message to which Republicans need to listen as carefully as Democrats:
If you are an elitist, you will be thrown to the wolves.
This election, though beneficial to the Republicans, was not a great victory for the Republican party, it was a great victory for the people. The people made it clear that the government works for them, not the other way ’round. Any politician who does not grasp this, whether D or R, will face the same fate as Charlie Crist and Mike Castle when their re-election rolls around. The era of Living the High Life on the Backs of the Rubes is over.
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We will not have a righteous government again until we become a righteous nation again.
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In Nevada The State Senate GOP Leader endorsed Harry Reid
KevinM Thursday, November 4th at 9:54AM EDT (link)How pathetic can that be?
State Senate GOP Minority Leader Bill Raggio endorsed Harry Reid over Sharron Angle as did GOP Mayor Bob Cashell (and former State Party Chair). It was this kind of shenanigans that contributed to her loss on Tuesday.
Today we will see if the new State Senate GOP caucus has any cajones. They will be meeting to elect their leader for the upcoming session.
That is unforgivable
earlgrey (Diary) Thursday, November 4th at 10:12AM EDT (link)every lost Senate seat makes it that less likely we can do anything to save our healthcare system. Or does anyone care about that anymore.
The Sparks Mayor also endorsed Reid
reno_dave Thursday, November 4th at 12:26PM EDT (link)The mayor of Sparks, Geno Martini (R), also endorsed Reid.
As a resident of Reno, I would have voted against Cashell in protest, had not his opponent been a non-serious candidate.
IMO, a better ground game would have helped Angle. Though we volunteers poured our hearts into it, there just weren’t enough of us to match the paid union support.
On election day, I was poll watching in NW Reno. Every three hours we would get a list of those who had voted, and like clockwork, a couple of union members would come in to check their list of area union members against the “has voted” list. Then they would leave to call those who hadn’t voted.
I asked several where they were from. While most were local, but one guy said he had driven in that morning from Oakland, CA which is roughly 200 miles, and four hours away by car.
Funny how those in the media, and the usual small band
eburke (Diary) Thursday, November 4th at 12:40PM EDT (link)of ‘tea partiers are destroying the Party’ posters on RS, have yet to bring that up, instead choosing to focus on every shortcoming of the Tea Party movement.
But, once again, the ‘moderate/liberal’ Republicans who refuse to back the Party’s candidate because they’re just so much more sophisticated and smarter than the rest of us, get a pass.
Same thing happened here in MN – a large chunk of the ‘country club’ Republican crowd up here voted for Tom Horner ’cause they thought Tom Emmer was ‘too conservative’ and couldn’t win, plus he was…gasp…pro-life.
Tom is down by fewer than 9,000 votes right now. Self-fulfilling prophecies strike again.
When these clowns start calling out the ‘moderate’ wing of the party for the lack of support of conservative candidates with half the vitriol that they diss the conservative wing, I may start giving them some credence.
“All that need be done for evil to triumph is for good men to do nothing.”
Unified Patriots
Did you have problems with Senator "No"?
SteveLA (Diary) Thursday, November 4th at 4:14PM EDT (link)reno_dave
I haven’t done the research, but Angle was also known as the Senator from “No” in the Nevada Assembly, voting against almost everything even when backed by the Republican party, or so I’ve read in the states papers. Maybe I’m reading the wrong papers, but politics is somewhat about the art of compromise while still moving things in a good direction, Angle seems to be cross threaded with her own party in Nevada, what her record in the assembly a factor?
Shorter version, how much did Angle’s reputation in Nevada as a pretty ineffective legislator influence many of the elected R’s in Nevada from coming out against her?
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Competency over ideological purity and litmus tests
Not really
reno_dave Thursday, November 4th at 5:31PM EDT (link)SteveLA,
I’ve been a Nevada resident less than two years, so I don’t know a detailed history of Angle’s time in the State Assembly.
That said, the limited research I’ve done, along with watching her in debates during the primary season, I came to the opinion that she’s a strict constitutionalist, at both the state and federal level. Therefore, she probably voted no because she saw a conflict with the Nevada Constitution, as she did when she took Gov. Guinn to court when he sued to get a state budget passed with a simple majority rather than the two-thirds requirement.
She eventually won that suit in the Nevada Supreme Court.
BTW, I voted for Tarkanian in the primary on the basis that he appeared to be more electable, but once Angle was nominated, I donated money to her campaign and did some GOTV for her and the rest of the Republican ticket.
Steve...even if Sharron was everything you assert,
eburke (Diary) Thursday, November 4th at 7:49PM EDT (link)I still find it reprehensible that there were Republican ‘establishment’ figures that endorsed Harry Reid, a Democrat.
Same thing happened up here in tundra land; a bunch of ‘elitist’ Republicans (who were fiscal moderates at best) who are/were part of the country club GOP backed Tom Horner, the Independent candidate, because Tom was too ‘strident’ and he was a social conservative (even though he mentioned *nothing* about social issues the whole campaign unless specifically asked)
Tom was a fiscal conservative’s dream but now, because a bunch of establishment Republicans couldn’t bring themselves to support their party’s nominee, Tom is down 9,000 votes to leftist loser Mark Dayton.
These are the same people who routinely accuse conservatives of being ‘single issue’ voters who take their ball and go home when they don’t get their way. I, and a lot of folks I know of my ideological drift, couldn’t stand John McCain and looked upon him in ways that have been discussed ad nauseum on here. But we still worked for him, and we still voted for him.
The double standard and the hypocrisy from folks like Raggio is just mind-blowing, disgusting and inexcusable.
“All that need be done for evil to triumph is for good men to do nothing.”
Unified Patriots
From the all politics is local file.
SteveLA (Diary) Thursday, November 4th at 7:56PM EDT (link)Angle’s reputation in the Nevada assembly was not a good one. I went and found the article that I had read a while back, “‘41 To Angle” which appeared in the Review Journal out in Vegas.
If you read the article you can sort of figure out why Angle was not exactly beloved by local Nevada R’s. She was not what I would call an effective legislator when in the Nevada assembly and it looks like state R’s where not fans at all. I don’t think it’s conservatives v RINO argument, just someone that rubbed a lot of fir the wrong way in her home state R party.
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Competency over ideological purity and litmus tests
I'm not in a position to dispute that 'cause, honestly,
eburke (Diary) Thursday, November 4th at 9:15PM EDT (link)I’m not close enough to the situation to know (although I can’t remember whether the Review Journal is the lib or conservative paper in Vegas; if it’s the lib paper, I’ll take what they say w/a grain of salt)
But 2 points – 1) there’s no excuse (barring a Maes-type situation in CO) for Republicans to endorse the nominee from the other party; and, 2) I don’t know who else may or may not have endorsed Reid but I *do* know that Raggio is a moderate and he endorsed Reid.
That’s inexcusable. And right now, that kind of snobbery is what is standing between a rock-solid fiscal conservative and the Governor’s mansion here in MN.
“All that need be done for evil to triumph is for good men to do nothing.”
Unified Patriots
Probably agree
SteveLA (Diary) Thursday, November 4th at 9:30PM EDT (link)I’d probably agree, but as I said local retail politics in a small state like Nevada there are probably some real feuds and long knives ready to come out which the endorsements of R’s of Harry seems to show. “41 to Angle” when you look at what she voted against does not speak well about a politician who is doing what we hired them to do, namely govern.
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Competency over ideological purity and litmus tests
I wish politicians would say "no" more often
aesthete (Diary) Thursday, November 4th at 9:23PM EDT (link)I certainly wish they had said it more to Bush I and II, Clinton, and Obama.
“It is a popular delusion that the government wastes vast amounts of money through inefficiency and sloth. Enormous effort and elaborate planning are required to waste this much money.”
-P.J. O’Rourke
I wish politicians would say "no" more often
aesthete (Diary) Thursday, November 4th at 9:23PM EDT (link)I certainly wish they had said it more to Bush I and II, Clinton, and Obama.
“It is a popular delusion that the government wastes vast amounts of money through inefficiency and sloth. Enormous effort and elaborate planning are required to waste this much money.”
-P.J. O’Rourke
Frank Fahrenkopf Former GOP National Chair
KevinM Thursday, November 4th at 3:33PM EDT (link)also endorsed Reid. He is currently the president of the American Gaming Association (Casino Lobby). The upshot of all this is that much of the “Mainstream” Republican Leadership and the business community seemed to be too hung up on the fact that a Nevada Senator was the Majority Leader (party affiliation was irrelevant), and they felt that this was more important than the fact that Senator Reid is a key player in driving this country into an Economic Train Wreck as Obama’s waterboy.
Bill Raggio ousted from minority leader's seat in Senate
KevinM Thursday, November 4th at 4:12PM EDT (link)Consequences for being a RINO.
http://www.lvrj.com/news/bill-raggio-ousted-from-minority-leader-s-seat-in-senate-106712288.html
Actually from what I picked up, he saw the writing on the wall and withdrew his name.
"I'm Drinking Tea, Not the Kool-Aid"
partyof1 Thursday, November 4th at 9:55AM EDT (link)That is a bumper sticker for sale on the NRSC web site. Seriously.
If I have have money in my hand to donate, I can not see a reason to send it to the NRSC or RNC instead of DeMint’s Senate Conservatives Fund.
I wish they made "Don't Tread on Me" running apparel
earlgrey (Diary) Thursday, November 4th at 10:10AM EDT (link)During the Honduras situation, I was also wishing someone would make “Democracy for Honduras” shirts. Show those Amnesty International geeks that we care about people in other countries.
Morning in America
Viator Thursday, November 4th at 9:58AM EDT (link)1) A Historic Shift
http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2010/11/03/us/politics/election-results-house-shift.html?ref=politics
2) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xr3sj8q5lfY
I don't trust
smitch61 Thursday, November 4th at 10:03AM EDT (link)The republican party, have not for years. Much better they took the house than the senate in my opinion.
The GOP received a lot of votes from democrats and independents on Tuesday, and for once conservatives went out to vote. They better be very careful, they will not get those votes back. The reality is, there are quite a few conservatives who will not vote if their interests are not in line with the candidate. They will have to work hard to keep them. My husband got a call believe it or not yesterday from the NRSC requesting money.. He said ” I will give the republican party money again when the health care bill is repealed, beyond that do not call back”.
The Tea Party
smitch61 Thursday, November 4th at 10:16AM EDT (link)and conservatives will not let the GOP get away with anything. I think we can all agree that the GOP would have ushered in health care a lot quicker “to get along”, had it not been for the townhalls and the tea party movement. If they believe it will now go away they are sadly mistaken. The democrats are not going to know how to act when we are protesting the republicans. The dems are done, at least for a very long time.
We are blessed that these idiots are not in the majority
Tbone (Diary) Thursday, November 4th at 10:14AM EDT (link)until the next cycle.
Envisioning when all that is Left is the Right.
I hear you Tbone
constitutionalconservative (Diary) Thursday, November 4th at 5:06PM EDT (link)We’ve got a couple cycles more of purging to do before the party is set to really operate in a conservative manner.
And I completely agree with Erick’s comments Re: The establishment’s lame attempts to target DeMint for it’s own failure. DeMInt owns our very narrow loss in CO to some extent– but it’s a pure counterfactual to argue that Norton would have necessarily won that race. He certainly doesn’t own DEL or Nevada, for reasons Erick explained.
What he *does own is KY (Paul over the establishment hack Grayson)– P.A. (The outstanding Toomey), Wisconsin (the excellent Ron Johnson)– Utah (The Outstanding MIke Lee) and he would have owned a great victory in AK had our establishment not stabbed him in the back.
Oh and lets see- Yeah, he owns Rubio’s victory in FL, in which the conservative star of our generation may have been born– in the face of establishment opposition. I’ll make that trade for a narrow loss in CO any day.
2012 is not that far away
philipjames Thursday, November 4th at 10:18AM EDT (link)I think a lot of these dolts in the Senate are the worst of the back slapping go along to get along crowd that believes that once they are in the club, they are there by right.
Lindsay Graham and the rest of those back stabbers abandoned Joe Miller and kept their butt kissing corrupt buddy, MurCokeski, in her position of power even as she sneered at the rules.
There will be a war between the real Conservatives and the Tea Party Movement types and the Washington version of the Alaska Corrupt Bastards Club.
(by the way, Google the “Corrupt Bastards Club Alaska” to read about what Sarah Palin had to fight when she was there)
Complete agreement, and FURIOUS
bus2dc Thursday, November 4th at 10:36AM EDT (link)To watch the RNC actively work to bring down the primary winners because they were not the RINO choices was sickening. They ALLOWED Christine to be ridiculed and go down; the silence was deafening as she was repeatedly attacked by utter garbage and silliness that would never have been tolerated in other instances. In other races they played out-and-out dirty and denounced the tea party (wicked Murkowski) or actively worked behind the scenes with independents to simply throw the votes. Spite and spit ruled the day, and the will of the people ended up having to not only fight the Dems but our own party sabotage.
Thank GOD for Jim DeMint. His quiet determination and strength continues to be an uncompromising voice for conservatism. The reality is, we have done the impossible!
Better a Democrat than a RINO
p3orion Thursday, November 4th at 11:01AM EDT (link)I agree that’s it better to have lost Delaware than to have won it with a liberal Republican. So many uninformed voters these days repeat the mantra that “there’s no difference between the parties.” When we compromise on basic principles just get a butt in the seat, they come close to being correct.
I’d rather see a conservative go down nobly in a hard-fought campaign than to win a lukewarm victory that will do no more than slow the pace of an inexorable liberal advance.
It’s been a tough couple of years. If John McCain had won the White House in 2008, we’d undoubtedly be in a better place right now than we are. But his loss resulted in Professor Obama giving the country a public demonstration of the dangers of Marxism. The people are learning their lessons well (they just passed their midterm exam with flying colors) and that will mean a much stronger nation in the long run.
It’s been said many times before but it bears repeating: it took Carter to give us Reagan.
Hi, p3orion (READ THIS).
Moe Lane (Diary) Thursday, November 4th at 11:11AM EDT (link)You are henceforth forbidden the use of the term ‘RiNO:’ I accept that there are people out there would rather see a Democrat win than a Republican, but that doesn’t mean that I have to tolerate them using a deliberate slur that implies that they’re better Republicans than the people voting a strict party ticket.
So, you don’t get to use the slur.
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seattlebruce Thursday, November 4th at 11:15AM EDT (link)Will all the flack that CO received from everywhere, including the NRSC, she did about as good as one could expect. Next time let’s be more stealth and perhaps we win there – but in any case I don’t buy that the reason she lost was that she was Conservative. She lost because she had late night comedy baggage and other baggage, and because of the acrimony with the RINOs, et al. Now RINO voters need to buck up and follow their own big tent philosophy (that is to say vote for Conservatives) and if they don’t, we will forever expose them as hypocrites.
Shut up NRSC
seattlebruce Thursday, November 4th at 11:02AM EDT (link)“Nonetheless, the Senate Republicans are unhappy because they thought they should have won the Senate. Never mind that few people think the Senate GOP has learned a single lesson from 2006 or 2008. But instead of taking responsibility, they are forced to blame someone. Much like Mr. Obama blaming the voters for Democrat losses by not appreciating what he’d done for them, the Senate GOP is blaming conservatives. And the face of that blame belongs to Jim DeMint.”
Shut up NRSC. Just shut up for about two weeks. And then decide to stay quiet on this. We’ve all worked tirelessly and without your idiotic guidance and help (pretty much.) You are at least as much to blame for the muted Senate success, and your actions and outright opposition to the Tea Parties did very little to help the actual wave that we’ve seen in the House, Statehouses, and State Legislatures. So shut up.
We’ll continue to give directly to candidates as we see fit and without your lame big tent strategy, and unless you start to listen to us, and if you continue to oppose us directly like this, guess what? Your funding will dry up from average Conservatives. Is the Tea Party strategy perfected? Certainly not. Is it tough to work with a decentralized organization, but certainly better than working with a top down authoritarian group that’s so OFF BASE.
Figure out who you are NRSC, and who your base is. You ARE us and if you don’t recognize that, you will whither and die. And rightly so.
Did I mention that you should shut up – and that we’re listening and acting?
Hmmmm...let's see. We did swimmingly well in
eburke (Diary) Thursday, November 4th at 12:44PM EDT (link)House races, Governorships, and state legislative races.
The only place where we lagged was in Senatorial races.
Which national Republican organization is consistently the most elitist and tone deaf?
Connect the dots.
“All that need be done for evil to triumph is for good men to do nothing.”
Unified Patriots
great point eburke! 5! nt
audax (Diary) Thursday, November 4th at 3:01PM EDT (link)Audeamus pro audere est facere
55555 [nt]
cwilson (Diary) Thursday, November 4th at 7:02PM EDT (link)If ye love wealth better than liberty, the tranquility of servitude than the animated contest of freedom — go home from us in peace. We ask not your counsels or arms. Crouch down and lick the hands which feed you. May your chains sit lightly upon you, and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen! –Samuel Adams
NRSC must go
Randy (Diary) Thursday, November 4th at 11:11AM EDT (link)Anyone and everyone involved must be removed from their position…. 8 Million in CA?? EPIC FAIL!
"8 Million in CA?? EPIC FAIL!"
seattlebruce Thursday, November 4th at 11:19AM EDT (link)Right – you suppose Buck and Rossi could have used some of that? Oh, that’s right, they were on DeMint’s list…
We the people
momo Thursday, November 4th at 11:18AM EDT (link)get to pick our candidates, not the NRSC. This just proves that even Republican Washington elites need to be replaced. They have let the power go to their heads!!!!
"This just proves that even Republican Washington elites need to be replaced."
seattlebruce Thursday, November 4th at 11:23AM EDT (link)Absolutely right.
Easily Solved
Repair_Man_Jack (Diary) Thursday, November 4th at 11:34AM EDT (link)Jeff Sessions takes over the NRSC. There would never have been a debaucle like Colorado under his leadership.
Mr. Obama is pretending that an economic “recovery” is underway when he knows damn well that the banking system is just blowing smoke up the shredded *** of what’s left of that economy – James Howard Kunstler
I do blame DeMint for O'Donnell
crosley (Diary) Thursday, November 4th at 11:46AM EDT (link)It was an incredible lack of judgment on his part.
I like that DeMint recruits conservative candidates, but it can’t be a kamikaze mission. Any time powerful figures like this wade into a primary, they need to make sure the person they endorse is truly ready for prime time.
Anyone taking a casual glance at O’Donnell’s past should have run in the other direction. A savvy Senator that puts a lot of stock in his endorsements should have done some research. He really has no excuse for making such a bad call, and he was a big reason she won the primary.
I certainly understand not endorsing Castle, but if you can’t find a solid recruit to challenge Castle, just stay out of it. You can’t simply say,”Castle is too moderate, I’ll take anyone else, even a kook”
I believe O’Donnell tainted Republican’s image substantially around the country, and brought to the forefront our worst stereotypes.
Oh please...
jenniferjmilleresq Thursday, November 4th at 12:21PM EDT (link)He endorsed Christine a week before the primary. Get over it. I guess you disagree with Demint’s point that it’s better to have 30 Marco Rubio’s than 60 Mike Castles.
Get a clue crosley. Demint didn't come out to
deano64 (Diary) Thursday, November 4th at 12:22PM EDT (link)support O’Donnell until after the primary and he didn’t recruit her. Come on back when you get your facts straight. Demint is Conservative Rock Star and Establishment is scared to death of him. I’m disappointed to see you let the Liberal media define Christine O’Donnell for you. Ignorant and disgraceful.
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deano64 (Diary) Thursday, November 4th at 12:52PM EDT (link)Ok I forgot he did post a one sentence tweet in support of her the Friday before the primary. I can now see how this was all his fault.
Precinct Committeeman before it was cool.
“The American Republic will endure until the day Congress discovers that it can bribe the public with the public’s money.”
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It's amazing to me that so many MFM pundits, and no
eburke (Diary) Thursday, November 4th at 12:30PM EDT (link)small number of posters on here can trash the tea party to high heaven for nominating ‘bad’ candidates, or sucking up funds to bankroll a Christine O’ Donnell but are somehow strangely silent when it comes to the NRSC’s decision to dump $8 mil into CA at the last minute.
Selective outrage apparently.
“All that need be done for evil to triumph is for good men to do nothing.”
Unified Patriots
It's amazing to me that so many MFM pundits, and no
eburke (Diary) Thursday, November 4th at 12:30PM EDT (link)small number of posters on here can trash the tea party to high heaven for nominating ‘bad’ candidates, or sucking up funds to bankroll a Christine O’ Donnell but are somehow strangely silent when it comes to the NRSC’s decision to dump $8 mil into CA at the last minute.
Selective outrage apparently.
“All that need be done for evil to triumph is for good men to do nothing.”
Unified Patriots
According to the polls, Carly was running just about even
JSobieski (Diary) Thursday, November 4th at 12:40PM EDT (link)I however have not complained about any of the strategic money decisions made by the NRSC. I have complained about their interference in primaries.
Rubio will set that bunch straight.
Did you know that China has been losing manufacturing jobs since 1995? For the specific data, see Table 1 in the following link: http://www.bls.gov/opub/mlr/2005/07/art2full.pdf
That's not the point, J.
eburke (Diary) Thursday, November 4th at 12:50PM EDT (link)The point that I’ve been making for 2 days now, which for whatever reason seems to not be connecting, isn’t that the NRSC didn’t have a reason to dump money into CA, or that the Tea Party supporters didn’t select some inferior candidates.
What I’m sick of is the small cadre of posters on here who continually carp about and crap on every single mistake/failing of the Tea Party while refusing to acknowledge any of their successes, or any of the failings of the “Establishment”, especially the NRSC.
If they’re going to play that game, then I am going to also, with the benefit of hindsight, do the exact same thing to them. And despite or usual agreement on things, it’s becoming frustrating and aggravating to me that you seem very quick to jump on comments that posters make which point out these inconsistencies while, for the most part, giving a pass to those who keep making them.
“All that need be done for evil to triumph is for good men to do nothing.”
Unified Patriots
The number of people who refuse to acknowledge the NRSC is pathetic is quite small
JSobieski (Diary) Thursday, November 4th at 1:05PM EDT (link)Even the people ripping the tea parties don’t really defend the NRSC,
There is some bad blood out there. During the DE primary, a lot of conservatives were incorrectly dismissed as RINOs.
I feel some sympathy for those folks, but I definitely get your point and will adjust my behavior accordingly. Frankly, I would much rather talk about some things we could do in terms of taxes and health care in 2011 than relive the primary battles of 2010.
Did you know that China has been losing manufacturing jobs since 1995? For the specific data, see Table 1 in the following link: http://www.bls.gov/opub/mlr/2005/07/art2full.pdf
And, as usual, J, we close our discussion finding
eburke (Diary) Thursday, November 4th at 2:01PM EDT (link)that what unites us greatly exceeds that which may divide us.
So, onwards and upwards to cleaning out the rest of the cesspool which is Washington…on both sides of the aisle.
“All that need be done for evil to triumph is for good men to do nothing.”
Unified Patriots
eburke- Those posters that you are
Scope (Diary) Thursday, November 4th at 1:14PM EDT (link)referring to have made it pretty clear that they are moderates, and, remain loyal to those in the party that almost destroyed the party in whole. Carly Fiorina was a moderate. She was not a conservative. Of course they would sound like crickets when one of their ideal candidates sucked a ton of money away from other more conservative candidates. For them, the NRSC is doing a great job.
Actually a lot of those people supported DeVore in the primary
JSobieski (Diary) Thursday, November 4th at 1:26PM EDT (link)Just like they supported Miller, Toomey, Paul, Rubio, and other “moderates”
Who is saying that the “NRSC is doing a great job”?
Look, if you want to keep people at each other’s throats, keep going around and insulting conservatives who disagree with you about a candidate assessment (a tactical assessment, not an ideological one).
Of if you are serious about moving the conservative football further down field, we can talk about things like how to start dismantling Obamacare in 2011.
But if you want to continue creating straw men arguments about people singing the praise of the NRSC, please feel free to do so.
I will spend my time on how to chip away at Obamacare.
Did you know that China has been losing manufacturing jobs since 1995? For the specific data, see Table 1 in the following link: http://www.bls.gov/opub/mlr/2005/07/art2full.pdf
JSobieski- You must have a guilt complex
Scope (Diary) Thursday, November 4th at 2:04PM EDT (link)or are ultra sensitive. I wasn’t talking to you, or about you. I was referring to the few that posted tons of comments blaming the Tea Parties for losses, on an EE diary yesterday, which are the very same people that eburke was referring to. If you have lumped yourself in with that crew, that’s your problem, not mine.
So you say in your comment-
“I,m keeping people at each other’s throats”
“I keep going around insulting conservatives”
“I’m creating strawman arguments”
Amazing that you could come to those conclusions, when I never addressed you in my comment, or implied that you were a part of that group yesterday. Actually, I haven’t responded to any of your comments since before the DE primary, and, I never even implied that I was talking to or about you in any of my comments since.
Actually, I think you have gotten quite paranoid lately. I think eburke is onto something when he claims that you are quick to jump on some peoples comments, but, bypass those that are running around pointing their pointy sticks in all the wrong places. I didn’t even see that response from eburke before I replied to his original comment.
Who is saying that the “NRSC is doing a great job”?
JSobieski (Diary) Thursday, November 4th at 2:29PM EDT (link)You like to make very broad statements, and then when called on it, you attack the mental health of the person calling you to task. Can you point to even one instance in which someone praised the NRSC?
Seriously? Even one comment on all of RS?
You have a case of Obama syndrome.
You accuse non-existent people of praising the NRSC, and then accuse me of having psychological problems?
Look up “projection”.
I am focusing on ways to take out Obamacare. If you want to focus on that large army of people (population 0) who think the NRSC is doing a great job, go ahead.
Did you know that China has been losing manufacturing jobs since 1995? For the specific data, see Table 1 in the following link: http://www.bls.gov/opub/mlr/2005/07/art2full.pdf
JSobieski
Scope (Diary) Thursday, November 4th at 5:03PM EDT (link)As I said, I was not talking to, or about you in my comment to someone else. You decided on your own, that I in some way surely must have been implicating you in my comment. It should be pretty darn obvious that I was referring to Goldwater Conservative, cordpt, and a few others that wanted to throw every stitch of blame they could at the Tea Parties for the loses of some of the Tea Party backed candidates. My exact words in my comment above were- “For them, the NRSC is doing a great job.” I was not quoting anyone, but, simply making a personal observation. Again, you were not a part of my thoughts. I also said that I have bypassed your comments since before the DE primary, simply because I did/do not agree with your ideas/positions. I NEVER called anyone who did not back O’Donnell RINO’s. I in fact may have called Castle a RINO, along with thousands of others. I walked away from you, during the DE primary, because I didn’t agree with you. It wasn’t worth arguing over. Please have the courtesy to do the same.
Circular firing squad
clintonformccain Thursday, November 4th at 12:34PM EDT (link)Good grief, what would it be like if the Republicans had LOST the election?
It’s important to point out that the Republicans face a demographic hurdle in many states. The large populations of the Democrat urban centers dilute the impact of rural/suburban Republican strongholds to a degree that you don’t see in House districts. For example, a Republican can win a House district in Washington, but cannot overcome the voter regisstration in Seattle and King County.
I think it’s far more productive to learn real lessons from each election and shape future strategy accordingly than it is to engage in a circular firing squad of recrimination. That’s how DailyKOS kills the Democrat party. The real challenge for any poitical party today is to find a way to include both rabid ideological purists and attract the support of independent centrists. To the extent that eaither party rejects the middle, they are making it more difficult to win outside of heavily-tilted House districts.
BTW, I agree with the above comment that O’Donnell hurt the Republicans nationally, far beyond her own race in Delaware. Obama is killing the Democrat party because he doesn’t have the political chops to avoid walking into obvious land minds and handing his opponents easy attacks. O’Donnell handed the Dems an easy attack on a silver platter.
To me, the most important lesson for the Republican Party to take from the Tea Party movement is to focus like a laser on the branding as the party of fiscal responsbility and competent, honest, transparent government. That’s a brand with widespread appeal.
There are some terms that are now obsolute
Scope (Diary) Thursday, November 4th at 12:58PM EDT (link)within the Republican party. One of them is “Circular Firing Squad” and the other one is RR’s “11th commandment.” The term “Hold their feet to the fire” has now gained more prominence. With a newly wide awake electorate, that has been willing to give the Republicans one more chance, will be keeping the Washington Republicans on probation. When they go against the will of the people, and forget their oats, you’re dang straight we will be calling them out on the carpet, and, as loudly as necessary. The days of voting, and then going back to sleep until the next election are long gone.
Unless you're an elected official or public personality, Scope...
acat (Diary) Thursday, November 4th at 2:06PM EDT (link)I don’t think Reagan’s 11th applies to you. I know it doesn’t apply to me, I’m just an average citizen, of the feline persuasion.
The simplest interpretation of Reagan’s 11th is to not “go negative” during the primaries. (something, I note, that Murcowski, Castle, Norton, and Crist all did, to varying extents…)
In short, I don’t see a problem with, for example, you and I verbally slugging it out over primary candidates…. but for the candidates themselves to slug it out *negatively* is just insane.
Mew
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Caveat Suffragator
acat- I agree
Scope (Diary) Thursday, November 4th at 4:13PM EDT (link)that going negative on other candidates in the primaries only damages the eventual winner, in many cases.
What I was referring to in my above comment was that we/I/you/all can get into firing back at those candidates, on our side, when they wander off the reservation. I was replying to a comment implying that EE’s diary was a “circular firing squad” in speaking out against some in our own party.
As to RR’s 11th commandment, do not speak ill of other Republicans, again, if those that we elected ignore the will of the people, or the will of their constituents, they need to be called on the carpet.
I totally agree with this post
runner12 (Diary) Thursday, November 4th at 12:57PM EDT (link)It was a good point and reminder for others that our candidate did not win in Nevada in the primary. He (Tarkanian) may have had a better shot at winning the race and beating Reid. But we can’t even know that for sure given that as Limbaugh (who I don’t listen to often, but happened to catch a bit of today) pointed out that whoever the nominee was would have had to face the union/Reed machine.Reid took out Lowden, remember? He trained his guns on her in the primary because he was certain she would be the nominee.
With the facts that you stated and the historic wins on Tuesday, it boggles the mind that today there is a Politico article in which establishment GOP members are going after DeMint and the Tea Party. Constructive criticism behind closed doors is fine if your goal is to refine and improve our methods on the ground. But their actions defy logic.
You just had an historic win largely due to the Tea Party/Conservatives and you are throwing a public fit that you did not gain three seats that would have made the balance in the Senate 50/50? The only thing that could explain this is a combination of elitism and the desire to diminish the Tea Party. If anyone has any other ideas to explain this behavior let me know.
runner12- You are correct
Scope (Diary) Thursday, November 4th at 1:06PM EDT (link)The Ruling Class must try to defeat the conservatives. They threaten their power and perks. They could get on board, but, it is doubtful they ever will. Like Trent Snaught said, they must co-opt those new upstarts that were supported by the Tea Parties. This, coming from a loser turned lobbyist, who has much to gain from the old boys, doing business as usual.
I’ve said before, and I’ll say again, I am glad we did not take the Senate. While McConnell still has any chance of remaining the Republican face of the Senate, we are sunk. This morning, on FOX radio news, I heard him say that he wants to turn back “the worst parts of Obamacare.” With friends like McConnell, who needs enemies.
Sharon and Christine
lifeisanexitpoll Thursday, November 4th at 1:54PM EDT (link)If either or both had been elected, they would have become the face of the reemerging, tea party driven, GOP very quickly. Not Rubio or Paul or Toomey. LIke it or not, and as bitter a pill as Reid’s reelection was, it would be unhelpful in the long-term to have every camera and microphone running after these two, first and foremost.
Except through outlets like redstate, I have no idea who made what decisions about how or how not to help which candidates. But in my humble opinion, the absence of these two will be fortunate in the big picture.
Those are good points
reno_dave Thursday, November 4th at 5:54PM EDT (link)I was unhappy to see Reid return to the Senate after all the work we volunteers did in the effort to oust him, but I saw the silver lining in that “Chuck” Schumer wouldn’t be the new leader in the Senate.
Your point about Rubio, Paul and Toomey is a good one. The media would have focused their efforts to belittle the TEA Party on the two women,unless they quickly became standouts or went “under the RADAR”.
We’ll now get another year to educate people on conservative, small government principles, using these men as models.
NRSC
1stsgt Thursday, November 4th at 3:41PM EDT (link)I communicated with John Coryn about Arlen Spector bdeing put in a leadership position and was told that Spector was the ideal person to be there. Not very long afterward Spector jumped to the democrap party. I am not highly educated but I have been on this old earth for seventy-five years and have learned a few things. I am thinking that KBH will be running again soon. I don’t have much use for her either andd I believe Michael Williams will be in the mix and he will definitely get my vote. And the way I feel now I will be voting for whoever is running against Coryn. I will not break my vow to ever vote for a democrat again.
Wonderful writing, Erick. To blame O'Donnell or
Flagstaff (Diary) Thursday, November 4th at 4:09PM EDT (link)Angle or Buck or Tea Party enthusiasts for their failure to be elected is to ignore the fact that the NRSC seemed to do its best to help their opponents defeat them. Especially in O’Donnell’s case, it’s shameful. They “forget” that she was the “official” Republican candidate in Delaware for Senate in 2008 against Joe Biden.
“frankly, I’d rather Chris Coons than Mike Castle. You may not think you would, but you would.”
We don’t really know if Castle would have done better than O’Donnell, but as it turned out, the nomination of O’Donnell did NOT result in our failure to win control of the Senate. So I agree with you, 100%.
We had a historic night last Tuesday. Without Tea Party efforts in energizing conservatives to get out and support Republicans, it wouldn’t have happened. One might argue that the Tea Party did the Republicans’ work for them in some places.
Buffett Rule #1: “Tax rates don’t matter if you don’t pay your taxes”
– Unnamed tax adviser to Warren Buffett, Leavenworth, KS, 2011
Buffett Rule #2: “A parrot in every pot and two Volts in every garage”– Jimmy Buffett, at a seance in Margaritaville, 1977
Perspective time.
spainishirish (Diary) Thursday, November 4th at 4:35PM EDT (link)A little more than a year ago, we were told:
a) Republicans would lose Senate seats;
b) GOP House gains would be below average for midterms, if they came about at all; and
c) Democrats were the new majority party because of a historic realignment brought about by the genius Obama.
None of these things were remotely true. In fact, the exact opposite proved out.
Did the NRSC make mistakes? Yes, many. If it doesn’t get out of the Special People’s Club mentality it richly deserves purging from top to bottom—if it doesn’t already. Erick’s points about the ground game and allocations of resources are dead on and probably account for some of the senate disconnects between the polls and final tallies.
Did Demint/Tea Partiers make mistakes, albeit fewer? Yes. But nowhere near as many, and on the whole the Tea Party ushered in a historic win for us. Sen. Demint acquitted himself well, although I reserve the right to pass judgment on him until I see whether he personally puts aside comity when it comes time to sack Lindsey Graham in the primary.
But did both the NRSC and, especially, Demint/Tea Partiers do things right for the most part? See items 1, 2, and 3.
This is why,
indyjohn Thursday, November 4th at 5:05PM EDT (link)when the NRSC called me, I told the nice woman who was soliciting donations that I did not trust Cornyn, and that I would therefore be directly supporting candidates of my own choosing. Cornyn is an establishment Republican of the worst sort who, being a ‘pragmatist’, simply cannot comprehend the ideological fervor that drives the Tea Party Movement. He must resign immediately and be replaced by someone with political perspicacity. The Dems will have 23 (I believe) Senators up for reelection in 2012. Good leadership at the SRSC should put the Senate back in Republican hands.
But what is liberty without wisdom, and without virtue? It is the greatest of all possible evils; for it is folly, vice, and madness, without tuition or restraint.
Edmund Burke
This is why,
indyjohn Thursday, November 4th at 5:05PM EDT (link)when the NRSC called me, I told the nice woman who was soliciting donations that I did not trust Cornyn, and that I would therefore be directly supporting candidates of my own choosing. Cornyn is an establishment Republican of the worst sort who, being a ‘pragmatist’, simply cannot comprehend the ideological fervor that drives the Tea Party Movement. He must resign immediately and be replaced by someone with political perspicacity. The Dems will have 23 (I believe) Senators up for reelection in 2012. Good leadership at the SRSC should put the Senate back in Republican hands.
But what is liberty without wisdom, and without virtue? It is the greatest of all possible evils; for it is folly, vice, and madness, without tuition or restraint.
Edmund Burke
The People's Senator
After Seven (Diary) Thursday, November 4th at 5:08PM EDT (link)Isn’t it funny that DeMint is being called the ‘undertaker’ by his Senate brethren whilst Lindsay Grahmnesty came within a whisker of giving us tax and cap. Vilifying the good guy and lionizing the traitor? High irony indeed. This will not end well.
DeMint has the undisputed support of the Tea Party and any real Conservatives including most blogs and the the talk radio mafia. Levin, Rush, Hannity, Church, Wilkow and the rest rightfully recognize DeMint as our best Senator.
I’m reminded of the summer of 2007 when the GOP Senate didn’t have the fortitude nor the intelligence to CRUSH amnesty…it was there and then that I decided I could no longer fund these buffoons. I see that very little has changed in 3 years…our current GOP Senate Leadership is as inept and reckless as ever, they don’t represent me nor do they represent my values….except for DeMint and a few others.
“The powers delegated by the proposed Constitution to the Federal Government, are few and defined. Those which are to remain in the State Governments are numerous and indefinite.” ~ James Madison
(Federalist 45)
California senate race
jim91010 (Diary) Thursday, November 4th at 9:39PM EDT (link)Here on the leftist coast I feel that we lost the senate race due to poor management of the Fiorina campaign. When Boxer began running ads on TV blasting Fiorina for sending jobs overseas while she was the CEO at HP the campaign did not answer these ads. I know several people were swayed by this one TV ad. Had she responded by saying something such as ‘As CEO my job was to maximize profits for the shareholders and insure the viability of the company, not to create jobs. The extensive and oppressive California regulations made this happen AND IT WILL CONTINUE TO HAPPEN UNTIL CALIFORNIA CHANGES ITS BUSINESS CLIMATE.’
I felt that Chuck Devore was our better candidate, but Fiorina could have won if she had been properly managed.
If we don’t protect our rights today, we will not have any to protect tomorrow.
Political Judo in CA Senate race
Kyle-MI (Diary) Thursday, November 4th at 10:10PM EDT (link)She should not just be defensive, but turn the attack around. Companies outsource because of the poor financial environment created by the big tax and spenders like Boxer. In fact, Boxer and her liberal allies would like to create one of the biggest incentives to outsource in history, the cap and trade bill. And they would have pushed the Kyoto treaty which would have severely disadvantaged the US economy while imposing nothing on our two biggest economic rivals, China and India. If Fiorina sent jobs overseas from one company, then Boxer is responsible for sending many more jobs overseas from the entire US.
In this way Democrats are like the children who kill their parents and then ask for mercy from the court because they are orphans. They create disincentives for US jobs and then, when a successful business person runs against them, blame them for actions caused by liberal policy. It is a nice racket to keep successful conservative business people out of office.
Cornyn is just ignorant....
beaker55 Friday, November 5th at 6:00PM EDT (link)Last year when John Cornyn and the NSRC asked me for more money to help “Save Our Democracy”, I nearly puked. The guy’s a leader in the Republican Party and sends me a plea to help him save our DEMOCRACY!? The establishment and ‘moderate’ Republicans in D.C. had better get a clue about our Republican form of Constitutional government or this Tuesday’s win will be for naught in two years. Someone please tell Cornyn et al to go find a copy of the U.S. Constitution and commit it to memory. We gave heavily to our local races, but I swear I won’t give the national party a dime until it can pull its head out of its D.C. Country Club arse. The current Republican leadership hardly knows the meaning of ‘Conservative’ much less. It’s about the Constitution, stupid!! If the NSRC doesn’t get the message after this election, in another ten years Cornyn will be asking for help saving our Socialist State. Where did these people get their education?
The GOP won six big senate races on Tuesday, but...
takemccain2 (Diary) Friday, November 5th at 7:17PM EDT (link)… they should have won more.
Of the races won, Republican candidates were victorious despite the N.R.S.C. with its lukewarm support and bungling throughout the campaign season.
Shall I list the terrible decisions one by one?
1. Endorsing Florida Governor Charlie Crist and then refusing to withdraw that endorsement (out of pride, spite or both?) when it became evident to everyone that Crist was going to abandon the party.
2. The Rand Paul-Trey Grayson and Mike Lee-Tim Bridgewater races. In both cases but especially the latter the N.R.S.C. did it’s best to influence and even (in the case of Bennett) attempt to sabotage the primary process.
3. Interfering in the Colorado primary in an attempt to get one candidate all the endorsements and donor money, even after declaring after the Florida debacle that they would no longer get involved in primaries. Which brings us to….
4. Not having any sort of GOTV effort on the ground in Colorado on the day of the election. This was a winnable race and the GOP had the better candidate, yet the Democrats worked overtime on their GOTV efforts and that was what made the difference. Of course, maybe the N.R.S.C. couldn’t fund a GOTV effort in a close race because….
5. They were too busy dumping 8 million dollars into the California race of Carly Fiorina, a moderate candidate who was a favorite of John McCain and many establishment senators. Of course, this mind-boggling move pales when you remember…
6. The N.R.S.C. sending lawyers to Alaska when sitting Senator Lisa Murkowski lost a close primary to help her find votes. As bad as this action was from a PR standpoint, it seemed like nothing when…
7. Senate Republicans failed to remove Murkowski from her leadership position on the Energy Committee and some of these same senators made comments to the effect that they thought Murkowski could win a write-in campaign, all this AFTER Murkowski said she would support the primary winner (but didn’t) and even AFTER she attempted to run as the Libertarian candidate.
The results speak for themselves.
John Cornyn should resign from the N.R.S.C. and someone who is more in tune with the voters as well as more competent should be put in that very important position. Besides Cornyn, Rob Jesmer should be fired immediately for his part in the candidate endorsement process. They are responsible for the loss of at least two additional senate seats (CO and AK) and for abandoning a GOP candidate in Christine ODonnell (DE).
Again, we won big on November 2 despite the N.R.S.C. and now an accounting is due. Everyone at Red State should join in demanding that the GOP Senate leadership gets changed.
I think, therefore I am not a Democrat. I fight, therefore I am not a Republican.
TEACHING ALGEBRA TO A DOG
reelman (Diary) Friday, November 5th at 9:21PM EDT (link)The ugly face of secular socialism was seen and rejected…as usual, the dems cannot manage an economy or be manly in foreign policy… they had full power, all the votes..they had their way…distractions, lies and smears cannot change the basic laws of economics for them…J. Carter Obama learned nothing from Jimmah C. When will the dim dems get it? Cuba is not a good role model.
The OzBama lies daily that it was NOT his policies, the 13 trillion in debt, the 15 million jobless and the usual socialist nation killers. How dumb it is to learn nothing from history? Secular socialism sux…no matter how boldly it sold…of course OzBama sat in a church for 20 years and never heard a hateful ranting sermon….daaahh.
Not to worry suckas, the dim dems will be back in a few years with the same ole socialist OzLand scams that they once again will be shocked by when they fail miserably.
Its like teaching algebra to a dog…they never learn.
“Ignore what is said, watch what is done”
The problem is congress…is congress…
Secular Socialism is never the answer…
“This is where we hold them, this is where we fight”
The “reelman” in central Louisiana
Today's article from the Washington Examiner says it all
takemccain2 (Diary) Saturday, November 6th at 9:25AM EDT (link)See the link below.
http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/opinion/blogs/beltway-confidential/gop-establishment-more-of-a-liability-than-the-tea-party-ever-was-106747538.html
I think, therefore I am not a Democrat. I fight, therefore I am not a Republican.
A quote from Anthony Martin at examiner.com sums it up well!
takemccain2 (Diary) Saturday, November 6th at 2:54PM EDT (link)The problem with the GOP is that it tolerates people like Lindsey Graham and Trent Lott, who are a prescription for failure. Americans made it clear they do not want compromise with Obama’s runaway spending and reckless manner of governing. They want roll-backs, cuts, and common-sense solutions to problems, NOT a Leftwing extremist ideology that RINOS such as Graham are all too willing to compromise with.
The link to this excellent piece follows.
http://www.examiner.com/conservative-in-national/insanity-lindsey-graham-trent-lott-blast-tea-party-palin
I think, therefore I am not a Democrat. I fight, therefore I am not a Republican.
AGREE - DeMINT IS THE REAL DEAL!
capeconservative Sunday, November 7th at 8:21PM EDT (link)It is so ironic to sit and watch as those in the ‘leadership’ continue to DENY the existence of the POWER of WE the PEOPLE!
Jim DeMint recognized it – and he has received more $$$ from this household during this campaign than we ever gave to the RNC in years past! NO MORE $$$$ EVER to Cornyn or the national party!
202.224.3121 is the Congressional switchboard – call and say thanks to those who deserve it and call and tell the RINOs to start LISTENING!!!! Graham should be cast out at the earliest opportunity – please, South Carolina, find a GREAT candidate to oppose him!!! Arizona failed to replace his fellow RINO, McCain, but I do hope the Arizona voters will hold the senator to his newfound conservative stance on illegal immigration.
OUT with all the RINOs – as quickly as possible!!!
We MUST continue to express our appreciation to Senator DeMint and also express our concerns to the likes of those who would attempt to discredit his HUGE impact on the changeover that took place in our country last week!
THANK YOU, SENATOR! Please know that millions of concerned Americans who still believe in our CONSTITUTION and REPUBLIC form of government are behind you 100% Keep up the good work!!!!