Another TSA Outrage


UPDATE: I’m getting a lot of emails asking if this is actually true and is this person actually someone I know. (1) Yes it is true — it is too absurd to be made up. (2) Yes, I know the person.

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A friend of mine sent me this about his TSA experience. He, unlike most of us, was coming back into the country from Afghanistan on a military charter.

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As the Chalk Leader for my flight home from Afghanistan, I witnessed the following:

When we were on our way back from Afghanistan, we flew out of Baghram Air Field. We went through customs at BAF, full body scanners (no groping), had all of our bags searched, the whole nine yards.

Our first stop was Shannon, Ireland to refuel. After that, we had to stop at Indianapolis, Indiana to drop off about 100 folks from the Indiana National Guard. That’s where the stupid started.

First, everyone was forced to get off the plane–even though the plane wasn’t refueling again. All 330 people got off that plane, rather than let the 100 people from the ING get off. We were filed from the plane to a holding area. No vending machines, no means of escape. Only a male/female latrine.

It’s probably important to mention that we were ALL carrying weapons. Everyone was carrying an M4 Carbine (rifle) and some, like me, were also carrying an M9 pistol. Oh, and our gunners had M-240B machine guns. Of course, the weapons weren’t loaded. And we had been cleared of all ammo well before we even got to customs at Baghram, then AGAIN at customs.

The TSA personnel at the airport seriously considered making us unload all of the baggage from the SECURE cargo hold to have it reinspected. Keep in mind, this cargo had been unpacked, inspected piece by piece by U.S. Customs officials, resealed and had bomb-sniffing dogs give it a one-hour run through. After two hours of sitting in this holding area, the TSA decided not to reinspect our Cargo–just to inspect us again: Soldiers on the way home from war, who had already been inspected, reinspected and kept in a SECURE holding area for 2 hours. Ok, whatever. So we lined up to go through security AGAIN.

This is probably another good time to remind you all that all of us were carrying actual assault rifles, and some of us were also carrying pistols.

So we’re in line, going through one at a time. One of our Soldiers had his Gerber multi-tool. TSA confiscated it. Kind of ridiculous, but it gets better. A few minutes later, a guy empties his pockets and has a pair of nail clippers. Nail clippers. TSA informs the Soldier that they’re going to confiscate his nail clippers. The conversation went something like this:

TSA Guy: You can’t take those on the plane.

Soldier: What? I’ve had them since we left country.

TSA Guy: You’re not suppose to have them.

Soldier: Why?

TSA Guy: They can be used as a weapon.

Soldier: [touches butt stock of the rifle] But this actually is a weapon. And I’m allowed to take it on.

TSA Guy: Yeah but you can’t use it to take over the plane. You don’t have bullets.

Soldier: And I can take over the plane with nail clippers?

TSA Guy: [awkward silence]

Me: Dude, just give him your damn nail clippers so we can get the f**k out of here. I’ll buy you a new set.

Soldier: [hands nail clippers to TSA guy, makes it through security]

This might be a good time to remind everyone that approximately 233 people re-boarded that plane with assault rifles, pistols, and machine guns–but nothing that could have been used as a weapon.


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This is incredible--

ClearGrit (Diary) Thursday, November 18th at 6:44PM EDT (link)

and I am incredibly outraged. The sooner these TSA power-trippers are put in their places the better off we will all be.

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mayrfortuna (Diary) Thursday, November 18th at 9:44PM EDT (link)

You are becomming too soft don´t you?

A TSA to inspect TROOPERS after they have been propperly inspected by theyr fellows?

It is time for a Pathon like Commander to surrender TSA, and show them how a assault weapont with no shels can be used to take them!

DO SOMETHING FOR CHRIST SAKE!

THIS PEOPLE ARE USING YOU TO UPHOLD THE SPIRAL OF SILENCE!

 

Oh, they'll be put in their places

blooch Thursday, November 18th at 11:26PM EDT (link)

when the first cadres of the Civilian Natioanl Security Force are formed.

FWIW, Security at Indianapolis Airport was confiscating box-cutters and roaming the concourses with what I assume were bomb or drug-sniffing dogs back in the ’90′s. I was in many US airports during that time, and none of their security was as thorough or restrictive as Indianapolis Airport’s team. It wouldn’t surprise me to find out that the guy who ran that show got kicked upstairs into the TSA.

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good thing they weren't nuns

joecollins (Diary) Thursday, November 18th at 6:45PM EDT (link)

Soldiers, yes. Unloaded weapons, yes. But Nuns . . oh no. Nuns need to be searched.

nuns

alvin691 Sunday, November 21st at 10:00AM EDT (link)

Yes, you would search nuns. They might be smuggling in something like, a covered dish or other delicious foods.

 
 

Disband TSA.....completely

fpete13527 (Diary) Thursday, November 18th at 6:46PM EDT (link)

What do they do

pollywog Friday, November 19th at 5:10PM EDT (link)

with all of the confiscated nail clippers and hand lotion? ARE THEY BUILDING A GIGANTIC ROBOTRON TO SAVE ALL OF OUR LIVES, or do they donate them?

Oh I am guessing they recycle them as stocking stuffers for relatives.

earlgrey (Diary) Friday, November 19th at 5:13PM EDT (link)

YUCK!!!

 
 
 

The nail clippers don't piss me off...

bcochran1981 Thursday, November 18th at 6:49PM EDT (link)

…that’s just standard stupidity. The overall treatment of these fine men and women, THAT pisses me off.

You can fool all of the people some of the time, some of the people all the time and liberal voters every time.

55555

Scope (Diary) Thursday, November 18th at 7:26PM EDT (link)

Exactly right. They are protecting our country, but, upon return, they are treated as potential criminals, as are all flying Americans. The irony of removing nail clippers, while having a plane filled with real weapons is beyond stupid. Is there any other word that overtakes stupid?

Yes...

bcochran1981 Thursday, November 18th at 7:28PM EDT (link)

…Liberal

You can fool all of the people some of the time, some of the people all the time and liberal voters every time.

You cant fix

texasgalt (Diary) Thursday, November 18th at 8:27PM EDT (link)

stupid. Stupid is forever. Once in a blue moon you can fix liberal.

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Stupid can be fixed...

anotherindyfilmguy (Diary) Thursday, November 18th at 11:39PM EDT (link)

Just most folks don’t carry 2×4′s or other implements to fix stupid to the airport these days…

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These Troops Had the Wherewithal

edintexas Friday, November 19th at 9:25AM EDT (link)

If the TSA thinks nail clippers are a good weapon, but not an M4, they’ve never been butt stroked. Now I know the M-16 and M-4 aren’t the best for butt stroking (not anywhere near the capability of my old M-1s or M-14s), but still they could easily put someone down.

Our troops could have fixed “stupid”, but they are too disciplined to be more than tempted.

 
 

To me...

bcochran1981 Friday, November 19th at 10:07AM EDT (link)

…liberal is worse than stupid. Stupid is a genetic condition that you can only do so much about. Liberal is a choice. Liberalism is willful stupidity and ignorance.

You can fool all of the people some of the time, some of the people all the time and liberal voters every time.

 
 

HOW TRUE

betaylor322 Friday, November 19th at 8:03AM EDT (link)

Hi bcochran1981

Loved your observation about “liberals”. How true!!!! I can’t help but think also, about Ann Coulter’s book, “How to Speak to a Liberal – If You Must”.

I don’t supposed anything ever tested if the whole body scan machines do NOT catch explosives, but it’s real encouraging that they’d catch nail clippers!

What a JOKE!

 

Liberals

betaylor322 Friday, November 19th at 8:08AM EDT (link)

Hi Texasgalt,

What do you do if you encounter a STUPID LIBERAL? To me, that’s just redundant. To me, they’re the same thing, and just more fodder for the Darwin List: those whose leaving of the planet make it all the better.

 
 

Word that overtakes stupid

rebecca52 Friday, November 19th at 7:01AM EDT (link)

Ignoramus liberal

 

The word that overtakes stupid

wasadoc Friday, November 19th at 8:10AM EDT (link)

Can we say obama?

 

Just more Napilitano

oltex2 Friday, November 19th at 8:24AM EDT (link)

Per Napilitano, Our military returning vets are the real enemy and
terrorists. it’s not supposed to make sense, just control.

 

Just more Napilitano

oltex2 Friday, November 19th at 8:24AM EDT (link)

Per Napilitano, Our military returning vets are the real enemy and
terrorists. it’s not supposed to make sense, just control.

 
 

AMEN!!!!

itrytobenice (Diary) Thursday, November 18th at 10:14PM EDT (link)

They should have been honored and respected rather than shuffled around like so many sheep. Our TSA, as well as most of our bureaucrats, does nothing so well as practice their incompetence.

They absolutely disgust me.

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Potential Terrorists

bushhog Friday, November 19th at 8:37AM EDT (link)

is how returning vets were described by government security types early in Obambi’s term. Big Sis has to watch over them carefully, as their idea of Constitutional freedom may differ from the fed’s.

 
 
 

ROFL

pastisprolog Thursday, November 18th at 6:53PM EDT (link)

It would be funnier if it weren’t a sure sign of insanity. If this doesn’t show the inmates are in charge of the asylum, nothing will.

Still ROFL

pastisprolog Thursday, November 18th at 6:55PM EDT (link)

This needs to be a scene in a movie.

ROFL x2

conservvoter Thursday, November 18th at 7:16PM EDT (link)

They make the crew in Catch 22

Flagstaff (Diary) Thursday, November 18th at 7:30PM EDT (link)

look positively brilliant.

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This needs to be a scene in a movie

rebecca52 Friday, November 19th at 7:03AM EDT (link)

That is probably where Napolitano and BO got it from..

I am reminded...

johnhandel Sunday, November 21st at 4:54PM EDT (link)

of a scene in one of the ‘Airplane’ movies where people are going through an airport security checkpoint. People are going through and setting off metal detectors right and left, including obvious gang members (or were they New Black Panthers?) carrying machine guns and rocket launchers, but when granny hits the metal detector, she’s thrown against the wall for frisking/detainment.

Could this be the start of their inspiration?

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Looking for weapons, or terrorists?

MikeInOhio Thursday, November 18th at 6:58PM EDT (link)

This question needs to become the focus.

The Israelis look for terrorsits, and they have not had an aircraft incident for decades. Yes, it is a much smaller scale, but a much bigger target.

I would like one of our representatives to ask the top people at TSA and/or Homeland Security:
Suppose you had a profile that would have precisely identified the 19 9/11 hijackers – every one of them, and no others. And that profile did not consider religion, race, or nationality.
Would that profile have been acceptable? Would you use it? Or would it be rejected, even today, knowing its effectiveness, because it picked out too high a proportion of Muslims?

And from those answers, many other questions should follow.

This is the problem with low-level govt workers.

mriggio (Diary) Thursday, November 18th at 7:38PM EDT (link)

Much easier to train to look for forbidden THINGS on the ever-present checklist, than to look at the person you’re screening. A psych/appearance profile is much trickier to train to, much more difficult to master than a list of THINGS which much be impounded. If these folks were trained to screen for actual terrorist threats (people), our returning heroes wouldn’t even qualify for scrutiny. But, this way is easier, and it sure appears that we’re doing something useful, even if we really aren’t.

Erick, please express my thanks to your friend for his service.

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knitwit (Diary) Friday, November 19th at 1:03PM EDT (link)

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Compromise: The art of giving to your enemy that which he is not powerful enough to take.

 
 
 

A nudge

boonton57 Thursday, November 18th at 7:03PM EDT (link)

It’s a nudge!

Hitler's nudge

sheryl Sunday, November 21st at 8:53AM EDT (link)

became a push & he then had complete power. The airports remind me of
Nazi Germany in the beginning. REMEMBER! TSA is run by the govern-
ment & made up of the union.

 
 

I'm sure that there are some very nice TSA screeners

Scope (Diary) Thursday, November 18th at 7:17PM EDT (link)

they have willingly signed up to participate in an unconstitutional activity. We have wondered many times if the military or law enforcement officers would come to the rescue of America’s citizens, should a tyrannical government take over, and, I would say that the TSA screeners have signed up to be on the side of a tyrannical government enforcement intrusion. I believe there are something like 65,000 of them. Now that we see that they will probably be a part of a public sector union, are the perks more important to them than the citizens freedoms with respect to the 4th Amendment? There really is a danger in promoting fast food workers, who started on lettuce today, and were promoted to fries tomorrow, and are now TSA workers making the big bucks.

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Every Dictator in History knew that to have & hold POWER you must set up the Structure where everyone up & down your lineup has a GUN to everyone else’s head.. Joe Stalin, Adolph Hitler, – they all had guns to each others head.. They did as they were told or the TRIGGER was pulled.
Here in America & other Western Nations, it’s the Money, the Position, & the Power that each Level holds to the Head of every level of POWER.
MONEY,POSITION,POWER has replaced the GUN.. But never forget, – The GUN is the “Implied Force ” behind the Position & the Power..

 
 

Another Classic Example of TSA &

rwtimm (Diary) Thursday, November 18th at 7:21PM EDT (link)

Rectal crainial insertion

 

So true!

rogershru2 (Diary) Thursday, November 18th at 7:22PM EDT (link)

Great story. I always thought it was strange when I can take an M9 and an M4, as well as plenty of scalpels and needles and drugs in my medbag, but even the tiniest knife was apparently a huge threat. I’m still laughing at this story because it is so true to life.

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My main worry is

romeg Thursday, November 18th at 7:22PM EDT (link)

do you think they might have engaged in any kind of RACIAL PROFILING [shudder, cringe, Oh the Humanity]?

“Of all tyrannies a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victim may be the most oppressive. It may be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron’s cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated, but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end for they do so with the approval of their own conscience.” – C. S. Lewis

 

But did they touch your junk?

Flagstaff (Diary) Thursday, November 18th at 7:26PM EDT (link)

You have my admiration, since I didn’t hear about this on the evening news.

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and you won't

philforest Friday, November 19th at 10:54AM EDT (link)
 
 

Weapons

Brian Paasch Thursday, November 18th at 7:33PM EDT (link)

“It’s probably important to mention that we were ALL carrying weapons.”

And of course, all of YOU are weapons. You’ve all had basic hand-to-hand combat training, yes? You don’t even need a “weapon” to take someone down.

Nail clippers, riiiiggght. My two empty hands and my martial arts training versus nail clippers… Hmm. Let. Me. Think…..

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We all have weapons

JustLeaveMeAlone (Diary) Thursday, November 18th at 9:14PM EDT (link)

My fully-loaded travel tote, swung at someone’s head, would make a heck of a sap.

My keys, held in my palm with the keys protruding between my clenched fingers, would really add punch to my punch.

And yanno those seat-belt extenders that the more … ahem… rotund passengers use? Or the demo ones the flight attendants show? Ever been accidentally hit by one of those suckers? I have; it hurt! Swung strategically, I could see it knock someone out.

The ridiculous, nonsensical rules just keep piling up, and still we obey like sheep.

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Heck...

Cargosquid (Diary) Thursday, November 18th at 8:06PM EDT (link)

My two empty hands and no martial arts traing vs nail clippers…and I’m a 210 lb, 5’6″, sedentary blogger…..

Someone tries to take over a plane with those and they deserve the butt-whuppin’ that some granny is going to give them….

 

The TSA agent needed a demo

JoeG Thursday, November 18th at 8:40PM EDT (link)

Give the clipper to a TSA agent and tell them to charge after you with it.

Then demonstrate how effective the but end of a rifle is at being a skull basher…

 

Part of me wishes your friend...

Frederick (Diary) Thursday, November 18th at 9:04PM EDT (link)

…had head-butted the TSA Agent. Or instructed him on how dangerous a rifle can be without any bulllets while in the hands of a well-trained American soldier. His job is, after all, to defend America from all enemies, foreign AND domestic! Alas, no. He has more class than me.

Remember how Federally-employed TSA Agents were supposed to be a “temporary, 3 year program?”

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JustLeaveMeAlone (Diary) Thursday, November 18th at 9:15PM EDT (link)

n/t

“To compel a man to subsidize with his taxes the propagation of ideas which he disbelieves and abhors is sinful and tyrannical.” Thomas Jefferson

Amen, JLMA!

knitwit (Diary) Friday, November 19th at 1:06PM EDT (link)

nt

“I only regret that I have but one life to lose for my country”–Nathan Hale
Compromise: The art of giving to your enemy that which he is not powerful enough to take.

 
 
 

My guess is...

gypsy Thursday, November 18th at 9:09PM EDT (link)

The TSA is trying to provoke an incident. All this unnecessary rough treatment cannot just be a coincidence.

I agree with you gypsy.

grandma Thursday, November 18th at 10:27PM EDT (link)

None of this is a coincidence.

I agree as well.

Gigi Friday, November 19th at 2:37PM EDT (link)

It’s interesting in each of the cases I have seen that people have filed charges, etc… TSA says that they investigated and they found the TSA gestapo acted correctly or they won’t comment at all. Nice of them to be so “impartial” while policing themselves. If there is a big blow-up it will just give them an excuse to crack down harder.

I also can’t understand the people who say if you don’t like it, don’t fly. I want to ask them, what happens when they install these at train/subway stations, bus stations, malls, etc… They are already at most government buildings. Will they ultimately stand between the American public and all travel modes and shopping venues. A great way to police people and keep them under your thumb.

Who truly thinks that the government will stop with the airports if the people don’t stand up to this?

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A common cause

layedbackguy2 Thursday, November 18th at 9:12PM EDT (link)

I have read people from the ‘Far Left’ to the ‘Far Right’ write all of the same things on the TSA topic. So rare to listen to people on both sides agree on something!

So what will happen?

My guess; not much of anything…the police state will continue, they will just work out some new PR campaign to reassure us all that they are just trying to keep us safe, and anyone who disagrees with the TSA is at best ignorant, at worst a terrorist sympathizer.

“…And so it goes”.

Government exists to protect us from each other. Where government has gone beyond its limits is in deciding to protect us from ourselves.
-Ronald Reagan

the police state will continue, they will just work out some new PR campaign to reassure us all that they are just trying to keep us safe

rebecca52 Friday, November 19th at 7:13AM EDT (link)

Yes, they are trying to keep us safe, that is why illegals have taken over many of the federal parks in the southern states. Now, don’t you feel safer? When the federal governments solution to the takeover of our national parks is a sign telling Americans to stay out, I know I feel so much safer.

 
 

Another TSA Outrage

CarolT (Diary) Thursday, November 18th at 10:14PM EDT (link)

These servicemen & women have been through enough for us, the citizens of the USA. TSA should have been warned against bothering them.

Now I am outraged for them.

 

Coming soon: Groinoscopies by Union Goons.

grandma Thursday, November 18th at 10:24PM EDT (link)

Isn’t TSA going to be unionized soon?

The Keystone Cops had their act together better than TSA.

 

Went through same thing

Kudzu (Diary) Thursday, November 18th at 11:29PM EDT (link)

In 2005 when we deployed via charter flight out of Hawaii. TSA told us we had to check bag our knives but then it got better. With our rifles we had to remove the firing pin (most removed the bolt carrying group) even though we had no ammo.

Flights that make more than one stop in the states were always subject the the jurisdiction of TSA and that means a hassle. We had to be rescreened in Minn St Paul before actually hoping back on the plane for Iraq

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I can verify this story too

tadams1138 (Diary) Friday, November 19th at 9:38AM EDT (link)

Almost the exact same thing happened to us in 2005 going out of the US heading to Iraq. In my recollection, we made everyone with anything sharp (K-bars, bayonets, leathermans, etc) into one sea bag for the company. The “fun” part was when we got to Iraq and had to figure out who had what. The marine in charge of the armory does not like wondering why he can’t account for every bayonet. (I swear sea bags are to bayonets like dryers are to socks). We still carried our rifles onto the aircraft though. Giant waste of our time.

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Coast Guard

fastrock Thursday, November 18th at 11:30PM EDT (link)

TSA was a mistake. We have personnel that inspect people and cargo everyday. They are the US Coast Guard. They probably don’t have the #s to do every airport but that is nothing more than assigning them the mission and time to increase their ranks. Many would love the opportunity to live in a metro area or close to home verses an ocean cutter or an inland waterway. Anyhow, my 2 cents

 

who would you want to see testify............

bobmontgomery (Diary) Thursday, November 18th at 11:34PM EDT (link)

……before Congress? Stephen Colbert or this soldier? Sean Penn or this soldier? Janet Napolitano or this soldier?

If the freedom of speech is taken away then dumb and silent we may be led, like sheep to the slaughter.
George Washington

 

Exactly what does the TSA think it's "protecting?"

merryj1 Friday, November 19th at 2:25AM EDT (link)

The ostensible purpose of “security checking” is to preserve liberty, is it not? So, we become fascists to protect ourselves from fascism? What’s wrong with that picture?

According to news reports, an Orlando (Fla) airport is opting out of the TSA “protective” services in favor of using a private security outfit. That’s probably a good solution for most of the country – it won’t fly in corrupt-to-the-bone (liberal-controlled) area-airports such as Chicago’s O’Hare and Midway, New York City-controlled airports, etc., but everyone should start applying citizen-pressure on relevant authorities and bodies to terminate the TSA “service” at their local airports in favor of private security outfits. If enough airports get rid of the TSA, a lot of passengers will avoid the airports that retain TSA and the problem will resolve itself.

 

Mindless bureaucracy.

Brian Hibbert (Diary) Friday, November 19th at 6:15AM EDT (link)

It happens with every government agency, everywhere. When following procedure becomes the most important part of someone’s job, they tend to lose their minds and do stupid things like this…..

It’s yet another reason why we need a smaller, less intrusive government.

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The TSA as perfect metaphor for our entire government

peg_c (Diary) Friday, November 19th at 6:58AM EDT (link)

n/t

Government cannot be the solution when government is the problem.

 

DEFUNDING

walter Friday, November 19th at 7:13AM EDT (link)

is what it’s time to do. We can stand around and chat about it all we want but it’s TIME TO DEFUND this nightmare. Each of us has to make sure we keep an eye on our state and US representatives.

Start by cutting government 10% then go from there. Expose how wasteful our tax dollars are when they are used for such incompetence. Constantly expose them. Let the people watch how imbicilic the politicians look trying to defend such nonsense. Then go after their jobs… yes, boot them out again and again until they finally get it.

WE THE PEOPLE! Get it?

Call me selfish, I WANT YOU TO!

Why are there no politicians speaking about firing 25% of the extremely overpaid government workforce that produces NO value what-so-ever?

 

We should go to an Israeli system

renny (Diary) Friday, November 19th at 7:15AM EDT (link)

Use racial profiling, behavior, and psychological profiling. Until then, the stupidities and anomalies of the TSA will continue and multiply.

 

W. T. F.

stephaniet Friday, November 19th at 7:19AM EDT (link)

This is nuts. I for one would let a soldier keep his freakin’ nail clippers, because if they can be used as a weapon (omg!) then I’d still want a soldier defending me from a hijacker, even if he used nail clippers to do it.

The TSA has about two brain cells in the whole agency, absolutely no common sense, no sense of common decency, and a power-trip that is quickly catching up to Bozo’s in size and scope.

Oh, by the way, TSA? An unloaded rifle still makes a GREAT club to beat people over the head with. You should be glad our noble warrior there didn’t decide to demonstrate on you.

“*They* say the best weapon is one you never have to fire. I respectfully disagree. I *prefer* the weapon you only have to fire *once*. That’s how Dad did it; that’s how America does it… and it’s worked out pretty well so far.”

 

Let me see if I have this right:

politicalqrm Friday, November 19th at 7:44AM EDT (link)

this is a MILITARY charter. Our fighting men and women…MILITARY (sorry, I have to keep repeating it, it’s driving me crazy)

. These people have gone through the biggest hell on earth imaginable. The fact that TSA is inspecting them and confiscating a nail clipper is mind boggling.

What did they think he was going to do with it? Demand that the pilot fly back to Bagram?

This proves that one of the requirements for a TSA position is the lack of intelligence or common sense..

God help us all..

 

It might be time

kaptkane Friday, November 19th at 8:10AM EDT (link)

for someone to place a bounty on blueshirts.
Totally out of control.
This is America and by God I will do all in my power to keep it that way.

 

true and accurate

swissrmeman Friday, November 19th at 9:19AM EDT (link)

If this is true and accurate, does Ms. Napolitano have a copy of this. Not that she will do anything with it.

This soldier needs to report this to his/her Conrgessman/Senator. If they do not support the military or our views, then to some who does. This is absolutely intolerable treatement. Along with asinine!

 

Outrageous

okiejim Friday, November 19th at 9:30AM EDT (link)

And wait until they all become unionized.

 

Just saying

tlhanger Friday, November 19th at 9:35AM EDT (link)

Remember when everyone thought it was a good idea to kick out the people that had always been doing the job and to get the government people in there. I thought it was stupid then and think it is even more stupid now. Remember these people are only doing what the commander in chief tells them to do. Government is the problem. Little talking bricks all uniform in doing their masters bidding.

Terry L Hanger

 

Everyone realizes the problems here...

momof4 Friday, November 19th at 10:00AM EDT (link)

TSA would have to treat individuals differently. We all know that can’t be allowed, it reeks of that “p” word, yep, profiling!
Imagine, actually requiring a TSA employee to think, rather than employing a robotic response to a list. It makes one’s brain ache.

It would have been more appropriate for the TSA workers to applaud our uniformed men an women. Shame on our government, and the TSA, for allowing such demoralizing and cavalier treatment of our military on their way HOME!

 

TSA

spiff Friday, November 19th at 10:49AM EDT (link)

Since when does a governmental sub-agency (TSA is a part of Home Land Security) have jurisdiction over the US Military? Were there no Officers on board to protect our troops from these fools?
Spiff

All the time

Kudzu (Diary) Friday, November 19th at 8:44PM EDT (link)

When we fly on commercial or on charter flights that land in civilian airports. Its not that they have “jurisdiction” over us but we are flying in airplanes that are in American airspace, which they have the job to protect. Nothing an officer said or did that day or any day will over rule TSA protocol

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It will continue to get more ridiculous

edniceville Friday, November 19th at 12:20PM EDT (link)

Until we begin to take TSA to task via the courts (unfortunately, we will need lawyers for this). Until then, they will continue to harass our military, grope our wives, daughters and grandmothers. If you haven’t seen Penn Jillette’s report of his own persona experience with TSA at McCarran in Las Vegas on the Drudge Report, you need to read it. It is gratifying that someone of his high profile is willing to use his fame and money in search of freedom for all. Attaboy, Penn!

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There is a loophole ...

cam1 Friday, November 19th at 12:38PM EDT (link)

in the law that allows a municipality the option to fire TSA and hire an independent contractor to provide security. With all the military coming home it looks like a great opportunity to start a new PRIVATE industry that will provide intelligent and effective airport security.

This all starts on the local level.

 

I'd like to see THAT...

Rudy (Diary) Friday, November 19th at 2:09PM EDT (link)

Wow… I would love to see a terrorist take over a plane with 300 soldiers coming from Afghanistan with a nail clipper.

Reminds me of the Airplane movie where people were lining up to help control the lady that was freaking out. That would be Epic. LOL

Newt! There it is !!!

So true.

Gigi Friday, November 19th at 2:48PM EDT (link)

What bunch of clowns these TSA blue shirts are. They should have have thanked those soldiers for their service and wished them safe travels. Instead they steal a man’s nail clippers. Useless idiots – the lot of them.

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Makes me wonder

arnold1 Friday, November 19th at 3:02PM EDT (link)

if those servicemen wonder if it was worth the hell they just went through defending stupid, brain-dead bureacrats and politicians who have the gall to call themselves citizens of the United States! But I know first hand what the “guvmint” can and will do to you if they get a case genitalia tumescence over your unwillingness to submit. Our only safety is in numbers. Lots of numbers. Active numbers. Loud numbers. Never give up! This is the last bastion of hope! We can stamp out this disease! We must not quit!

 

Totally Predictable

rjhfl Friday, November 19th at 3:06PM EDT (link)

Idiocy such as this is the result of liberal indoctrination, political correctness (mind control), and zero tolerance policy (otherwise known as: I do not have any judgement or common sense, but I cannot be held responsible). It could only thrive and survive in the government environment.

 

Get ready!

bellsheadboy Friday, November 19th at 3:35PM EDT (link)

Get ready people. This is just the warm up for what is just around the corner. Once the sheeple are used to being fondled at the airports they will find their privates being patted at theaters,shopping malls,football games and lots of other locations all in the name of national security.All it will take is for a bomb to go off in one of these venues and kill a few hundred innocents and mother government will step in and take away some more freedom to make us more “secure”.It is a favorite way of communist and socialist to take over a society and bring the populace under complete control. We had better get this rogue government under control or we will become the Socialist States of America.

 

hey TSA...this is my screening level...

reelman (Diary) Friday, November 19th at 4:26PM EDT (link)

The level of TSA airport screening agreed to and performed on ALL muslims and ALL members of the U. S. Congress before ALL public air flights is where I am on this security issue.

Why make the issue complicated?

Sign me up with those two groups and make us a “Package Deal”.

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Would it fit in a bodily orifice?

jackbenimble (Diary) Friday, November 19th at 6:06PM EDT (link)

I’ve always wondered….. Will a M-240B machine gun fit in a TSA inspector’s rear orifice?

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or just a handy folding chair,

kyle8 (Diary) Friday, November 19th at 6:12PM EDT (link)

or a swingline stapler.

“Nothing works like freedom, Nothing succeeds like liberty”
Kyle

 

or just a handy folding chair,

kyle8 (Diary) Friday, November 19th at 6:12PM EDT (link)

or a swingline stapler.

“Nothing works like freedom, Nothing succeeds like liberty”
Kyle

 
 

Troop Movements

johnm Friday, November 19th at 7:14PM EDT (link)

No TSA official has the authority to impede military troop movements. The leader of any movement of troops should be taught that.

The leader of any movement of troops that is impeded by a TSA official, should place said TSA official under arrest and call the local sheriff.

 

It's amazing the differences between TSA agents

littlekitty Friday, November 19th at 9:17PM EDT (link)

I travel a lot, and TSA agents can swing from one end of the spectrum to the other. One time, I actually had a TSA agent take away perfume (which was the correct size,) lipstick and tampons from me. Yes, tampons. It was ridiculous. Frankly, I think she wanted my new perfume and lipstick for herself, but to this day, I cannot figure out what was up with the tampons.

But, on another occasion, I had inadvertently forgotten to take some scissors out of a carry-on bag. It was a simple oversight. Although at first, the TSA guys were all over me about it, the one that was going through my bag told me to go ahead through with them. He was really nice about it. I thanked him…I was totally expecting him to throw them away. So, I’m not surprised when I hear these kinds of stories. Some have great people skills, can deal in stressful situations and make good decisions, while others cannot do the same. Unfortunately, those who go to the ridiculous extreme, making no sense are always the ones that are remembered.

 

Im skeptical

rodney_robbins (Diary) Friday, November 19th at 11:22PM EDT (link)

Being a Veteran of the US Army, and having been deployed, I am not buying this story. Returning from deployment, specifically a war zone, US troops are not required to be screened by TSA. That is a regulation, and my personal experience. While I think the TSA are morons, i’m thinking this story either isnt true, or has been embellished. But returning from a war zone, American troops carrying weapons do not go through TSA.

 

Yeah Erik, youve been had

rodney_robbins (Diary) Saturday, November 20th at 12:20AM EDT (link)

I did a little research, and yeah, this bogus story was circulated first back in 2004, by an “anonymous source”, and now it’s back again as a recent event. Notice not one news outlet, including Fox, has covered it?

Sorry Erik, youve been had on this one.

Rod in Oregon

[Citation needed]

Neil Stevens (Diary) Saturday, November 20th at 12:49AM EDT (link)

Hey Sparky, that’s an awfully snotty comment for one utterly devoid of backing.

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I agree...

rodney_robbins (Diary) Saturday, November 20th at 12:57AM EDT (link)

When something is posted like this story, there should be citations to prove its validity. I totally agree! So provide evidence other than blog posts of anonymous sources. Thats all there is. There is no documentation that this actually took place. And since the last time this story circulated was 2004, only then, it was a group of soldiers returning from Iraq, not Afghanistan.

I stand by my statement. This story is bogus. :)

And..

rodney_robbins (Diary) Saturday, November 20th at 1:00AM EDT (link)

I do apologize if I sounded snotty… Not intending too.. :) I also believe the TSA are morons… But there are so many stories that go around as fact, that have utterly no backing or verification.

:)

 

You made claims in your comment

Neil Stevens (Diary) Saturday, November 20th at 1:23AM EDT (link)

You made a specific claim about Erick, now back it up or retract it. Next post or last, your call.

I’m not in the mood for your attitude.

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Uh.. It doesnt work that way

rodney_robbins (Diary) Saturday, November 20th at 6:32AM EDT (link)

Erik made the claim, it’s his job to back it up. I have nothing to prove. Debate doesnt work that way. All the verification for his claim is based on blogs. Thats not serious, credible evidence. There are so many variations of this story that it is simply not credible. I dont have to prove anything. He made the original claim, therefore, the verification is his responsibility. It’s called the scientific method… Prove your claim at the time you make it with credible facts, or expect to be challenged.

I will not retract. You can do whatever you want. Whine to the moderator, whatever. But your blind belief in everything Erik says is just as bad as the left swallowing everything Keith Olbermann says.

Look, I said my peace, now I am done. Oh, and if your interested in believing these types of stories, there is this guy in Ethiopia that has 23 million dollars he is trying to get out of the country… But he needs an American to help him. Why don’t you drop him an email since you seem to believe stories that have no verifiable basis.

Good luck!

G'bye (nt)

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Oh, bad luck.

Bill S (Diary) Saturday, November 20th at 5:40PM EDT (link)

You did not…choose wisely.

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Nail clipper threat

drjohngalt Saturday, November 20th at 8:30AM EDT (link)

Should have handed over the nail clippers and followed up by beating the shit out of him with the rifle. After all he would have been in possession of a threating weapon so self defense would be necessary. And after/if he recovered he would probably no longer confiscate nail clippers. Some people only learn through experience.

It's been a while since I laughed out loud at a comment

Jack_Savage (Diary) Saturday, November 20th at 12:04PM EDT (link)

But I did at this one. Excellent.

You’ll get dinged for the profanity, but sometimes it’s the clearest way to say something.

 
 

Reductio ad absurdum

bobdog Saturday, November 20th at 8:53AM EDT (link)

THIS is what our government has metastasized into. Is anybody in Washington actually listening?

As far as I’m concerned, the military should be frisking the TSA agents. I trust them far more than the morons at the gates.

These folks should have been welcomed with gratitude, and waved on through with a humble thank you, not treated as a threat.

 

socialism anyone?

pgrossjr Saturday, November 20th at 10:59AM EDT (link)

If you are familiar with life under communism or fascism, this is not at all surprising. Even when agencies are created for noble purposes, in short order the mission of all bureaucrats mutates from whatever the original mission was to perpetuating the bureaucracy. You do that by continually finding new areas in which to assert the power of the agency. This is not supposed to happen in democracies where the citizen as opposed to the state is supposed to be supreme.
“The only good bureaucrat is one with a pistol at his head. Put it in his hand and it’s good-bye to the Bill of Rights.” —H. L. Mencken

 

Not a shock... but should be...

Lagwolf (Diary) Saturday, November 20th at 1:09PM EDT (link)

Then again they don’t care about cancer survivors with scars (http://bit.ly/bKUhRe) like mine or prosthesis. I enjoy the fact that people are so used to government over-reaching they doubt the tales told by those maltreated by the TSA.

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It's time to go back to security screening

lizaz Saturday, November 20th at 1:40PM EDT (link)

done by private companies. After DB Cooper, about 1974, the airlines did a lot of their own screening, then private companies took it over, better run, cheaper and less headaches for the airlines. After 9/11 the GOVERNMENT took it over (“we’re here to help you”….right….) and now they think they need to be UNIONIZED and boy will that mess things up even more! Some small airports are “opting out” of the TSA, and I think it’s a great idea. Hopefully Congress (the House) can put an end to this nightmare….whatever happened to common sense? I guess in many cases it isn’t there when you’re uneducated!!

 

Constitution question...

rodney_robbins (Diary) Saturday, November 20th at 2:22PM EDT (link)

Admittedly, I am no constitutional scholar, so please educate me… Why couldnt we use our own military to do screenings and security checks? Get rid of the TSA idiots altogether.

 

Nail clippers

Trillian Saturday, November 20th at 11:23PM EDT (link)

OK. But nail clippers were removed from the banned list several years ago.

 

Petition against TSA

brucemajors Sunday, November 21st at 10:53AM EDT (link)

Does the Obama regime’s decision to begin regimenting America and habituating it to fascism by using the TSA to force people to accept child molestation by government bureaucrats require 2nd Amendment remedies?

Sign the petition

http://www.ipetitions.com/petition/boycotttsa/

I was a naughty Ronulan.

 

This whole uproar

dave2010 Sunday, November 21st at 2:42PM EDT (link)

God bless all of those fighting over seas for us. Are you really kidding me though? Come on. I have a very hard time believing thatwhole story. With so many dramatic claims being posted in the past week or so this just over doing it. Start off first nail clippers are not a prohibited item and at least the Gerber has a knife on it though I even doubt that was/would have been taken since it is a military charter AND THEY STILL KEPT THEIR FIREARMS WITH THEM. If the flying public was on the plane there would be no weapons in the cabin of the plane.

There are enough true issues that should be dealt with instead of all the false or extremely misleading stories coming out.God bless all of those fighting over seas for us. Are you really kidding me though? Come on. I have a very hard time believing thatwhole story. With so many dramatic claims being posted in the past week or so this just over doing it. Start off first nail clippers are not a prohibited item and at least the Gerber has a knife on it though I even doubt that was/would have been taken since it is a military charter AND THEY STILL KEPT THEIR FIREARMS WITH THEM. If the flying public was on the plane there would be no weapons in the cabin of the plane.

There are enough true issues that should be dealt with instead of all the false or extremely misleading stories coming out.

 

@dave2010

sfcmac Monday, November 22nd at 5:17PM EDT (link)

I beg to differ with you, bub. As a former Soldier I can identify with the story. I was coming back from Korea just after 9/11 and I had a tiny hem remover confiscated from my uniform sewing repair kit. It was maybe an inch long with a small hook on the end of it. The customs idiot actually stood there and “demonstrated” its lethality by jabbing himself in the finger to show me how it could be “used” as a weapon. On my second trip back from Iraq in 2003, we had to switch flights in Paris. The idiots in customs tried to take our GAS MASKS, because they may be “contaminated”. Stupidity, it appears, is an international affliction.

SFC Cheryl McElroy
US ARMY (RET)