I was dubious of this deal when I thought it only included the UI extension and re-instatement of the Death Tax. With all the other pork added to the bill, Conservatives need to oppose this bill. We can get a better deal in January.

Last night I opposed voting it down.

Today, knowing more of what’s in it, I’ll take extra withholding if it keeps this mess of a bill from becoming law.

at this point we have no significant spending cuts even proposed and until we see what the cuts will be and how big, I am not sure that we can afford (for the future) the extension of any of the current rates. I would much rather see what spending cuts we can make to know where we have to get to for fiscal responsibility and then start from scratch with a much better and simpler code. Even without the tax expenditures now being added to the bill, it was simply too expensive given our current run rate and the sudden realization by bond holders that our money may not be good in the future. After seeing what is happening in the EU, I would much rather pay a higher tax bill today than see our economy crippled by high interest rates tomorrow.

I was against this when it came out! I’m even more against it to the extent that such is possible. Or it may just be that my coin flip came up tails yesterday and has lain still since.

It wasnt great to begin with and now it’s an Obamination.

Put this to bed. Congress GO HOME.

Let’s KIll it or at least make enough noise about this to scare the you konw what out of the incoming fresman.

A strait up or down tax rate extension needs to submitted and let the Democrats say no then let them answer for it. The rest can die. The inheritance tax can be offered up as well, but let the Democrats kill it and let them answer for all the raised taxes. They did it and we can offer it again in January and again let them kill it and answer for it. It is all we can do.

… and I would do it repeatedly – let them defend it. – Often!

They still control Congress. Let Harry Reid be responsible for killing it in the Senate in January as well.

…and hasn’t formed an opinion yet. I sent a link to his office, hopefully a staffer will keep a weather eye on the comments here.

Give it a month, let the grownups rewrite it, and it might actually contain what it is supposed to cover and nothing else.

One thing which might prove enormous which I have yet to see anyone fully acknowledge, is that if this does prove the case and nothing changes this year, then people will at least get a taste of what the Democrats would want them to have — or not have — in terms of their first few paychecks of the year.

I’ll repeat what I always end up saying: Democrats’ propensity towards self-destruction can never be overestimated. And if they don’t realize the degree to which they are showing their cards, those few paychecks could prove a tremendous blow.

We need something that will produce jobs and stop (or even reverse) the ongoing capital flight that is sapping our ability to recover our economy.

In its present form, this has become TARP III (or is it IV or V, I’ve lost track) – more deficit, more misspending of the revenues, more feeding the Federal leviathan at the expense of the private sector.

And at this point in the bill process, investor confidence in the U.S. political process and U.S. business friendliness has fallen to nil.

Thus, a two year extension of the Bush tax-cuts at this point (which is the only thing remotely Republican/conservative friendly) will have no change on the current hemorrhaging of the private sector – only a permanent extension, or better yet a permanent cut in the coming tax bill will start to turn things around.

Thus we will gain nothing for giving so much away, and probably this bill will throw away the 2012 elections for us.

This is a bad deal all around….
I was mad with the first proposal and now the dems are larding it up with pork to make the socialists happy?

Afraid that won’t fly. We won. Screw you.

The Republicans need to hear us loud & clear on this one……

anything, and it looks like that is what they are trying to do, from the original deal that McConnell and Obama struck, that will give the GOP the high ground to break with the deal as a whole saying they backed out of the deal we agreed upon and vote against it and look to have the high ground as well.

Pork Futures are skyrocketing and horse trading is exploding!

This is not the way to determine the economic future of our nation. The Senate Republicans should have nothing to do with this bill.

and what will it be 5 minutes from now.

offices this morning. I told both of them that the amount of spending (ie: pork) in this thing is nauseating. We don’t have the money for this. And they should vote it down. And be vocal about their objections to it too.

In addition, I also sent a message to Leader McConnell’s office as well. (His Washington DC line was busy….gee, I wonder why?) We all need to call their offices and scream bloody murder about this. We need it to fail…

How about we start by trying NOT to pass bad bills.

Re-visit it in January… without the BS in the bill, included with true tax cuts for everyone. Make them pay for the unemployment with unused stimulus (since Nancy states it is stimulus). Make them use it.. and finally, go out and pitch it.

A number of us having been saying that we should let this die for the past 3 days, and it’s only gotten much WORSE since then.

But, the best part is – we can let the Dems do the heavy-lifting on killing this monstrosity, AND blame them for it.

It’s the Best of Both World!!

Raving, take no prisoners,minimalist freaks, people who regard da guvmint as a kind of typhoid fever, some kind of filth to be swept from your door step, the type of person that National Review would ostracize, give David Frum migraines and ,ugh,Kathleen Parker lower abdominal cramps.
Why the rush to do it now? Because GOP leadership thinks it would be too difficult to do in January with all those unwashed newbies.
You might have to adhere to the principles of restraint and control over the beloved Federal Beast.

I am tired of DC playing the tax revenue fairness solution game when the overwhelming evidence shows that tax receipts swell when business creates jobs and GDP gets expanded.

I want CONgress to look me in the eye and say they judiciously spent every one of my dimes before they take one more from me. None of them could do it with a straight face and their hand on a bible. Well, maybe a few could since they are professional liars.

will be as sticky as Uncle Remus´s tar baby for those who vote for it!

Youu might be right about the pork, but the tax cuts must be continued. The effect on the economy after the tax cuts were put in place was considerable. This reminds me of a post on www.freemarketsfreepeople.net “Bush tax cuts caused the recession?”.

I can’t stand Benedict Nelson so I called his office to ask about the poll of physicians showing they were retiring, and then made a snarrky comment about how Nelson was sure to vote for the tax bill because it had pork.

Staffer: What do you think is it in it that is pork?

Me: Ethanol Subsidies.(more energy to make ethanol than we get from iti)

Staffer: Do you know how many jobs are in the production of ethanol from corn.

Me: So you an Senator Nelson believe the government should be deciding what industries thrive and which do not?

Staffer; OK so you don’t like heatlhcare.

THese people are so out of touch and they don’t care how much damage they cause they just see something wtih everything the free market touches. Even the so called “conservative democtrates”

Kill it.

enjoy the comments! Looks like nobody’s buying what they’re selling.

http://atr.org/update-days-untilbr-largest-tax-hikes-a5418#

Republicans – top to bottom – let the Democrats off-the-hook right from the starting gate (before it even opened).

The GOP Losership (Mostly in the Senate but there are House Losers too), just don’t get what this election was all about — markets. OK — yes, granted the Tea Party didn’t articulate the message in this fashion — the Tea Party articulation was mostly about bring attention to the symptoms of the disease of political manipulation of markets. It was about a revolt against more and more special deals for this or that special interest.

But what the Tea Party revolt is really means its ENOUGH ALREADY WITH SPECIAL INTEREST EXEMPTIONS AND DEALS THAT GO AGAINST MARKETPLACE RULES.

This means NO MORE cornahol deals, NO MORE special union deals with falsely inflated wages, early retirements and taxpayer backed defined benefit plans, NO MORE bailouts of special interests from taxpayer wallets, NO MORE special union deals on prevailing wage, NO MORE special interest judicial appointments (back to the constitution), NO MORE special interests taking of the liberty from average citizens thru regulations, etc, etc.

It’s time to get back to Constitutional principles as defined in the Preamble — promote the general welfare (not special interest welfare) thru promotion of widely varied markets, including social marketplaces. Do promote policies that promote individual liberty AND the liberty of our posterity — DON’T buy votes today with the labors of future generations. It’s long past time that entitlements be reformed towards generationally based social marketplaces so that each generation pays for it’s own social needs. On can also interpret the preamble to define how budgets are supposed to be balanced to promote the GENERAL WELFARE without special interest exemptions and without taking liberty from ourselves and future generations.

It’s time to bury FDRs bankrupting notion that the Commerce clause is all about a prescription that allows the federal government to ‘provide for the general welfare’. Sure, it has this power, but the definition of how this power is to be used is defined in the Preamble — to promote the general welfare (not special interest welfare), while preserving liberty for ourselves and our posterity.

The GOPs LOSERSHIPs problem is they are pretty much all about the same abuse of markets as the Obamacrats. They just want to do it differently, to different special interests in some cases, or just more of the same, so long as those special interests donate more and more to the LOSERSHIP reelection coffers.

In other words, the LOSERSHIP DOES NOT GET IT. They are part of the problem, not the cure…

Erick’s post inspired me to go back and look more closely at the roots of the Boston Tea Party. Will today’s Tea Party Patriots celebrate the death of this bill in commemoration of that revolutionary event?

http://www.redstate.com/wattchildress/2010/12/11/king-obama-the-east-india-republicans/