This, despite having voted for Rick Perry every time he’s run for Lt. Governor or Gov.

I like having him run my state. Please don’t take him away.

“I just wish there was someone with Paul Ryan’s economics, Petraeus’ leadership and foreign policy, and Huckabee’s social instincts”

Then I suggest you learn more about Pence. I think you’d like him.

While her TV show may help her reach audiences that normally don’t pay attention to more political shows, it doesn’t help much with the gravitas. She’ll have to execute a quick turnaround if she’s serious about running.

Palin; she left her position in Alaska politics to save millions of dollars the state was having to pay because of law suits!! The one thing Palin did & always will do is protect her Alaska! Smarter about a wide range od topics than any other I’ve seen or heard, no bulls— in her!
Saying that my second choice is Herman Cain; if you have never had the privilege of seeing or hearing him I recommend you do so! Heck of a man!! Smart beyond belief! Can put anyone one the run! One black person at one of his speaches sais “don’t you know these white folks out there are the ones who killed your folks”. Mr. Cain responded “show me a 200 hundred yr. old white person who killed my folks & I’ll kill them!” A true conseraitive loves America, came up hard & made millions!!! Very christian!

starts “vetting” our candidates. I hope the O doesn’t hire the soon to be unemployed Greyson to run his attack ads.

Another thought. For those that wait until spring, or as you said August to get in the race will have to take the loser leftover campaign managers and teams. You can bet the serious candidates are talking to the best and brightest already.

including Ryan, Jindal. Then we could see who really has a handle on all issues domestic and foreign.This is the primary reason I hate to see Palin run. I think many would drop out and we will never get to know them!

Imagine the discourse between all of these excellent candidates. The Dems say we have noone…not! We just need to see who has the smarts to really fix this this nation as well as the guts and tact to run foreign policy.

Jindal has so much experience, an encyclopedic mind…put him at VP, unleash him to ACTUALLY get rid of government waste, then see if you like him to go forward. In the meantime Mike Pence would be my first pick for reasons mentioned here and on the Pence thread. Cain was very impressive at the Gathering but would like to know more about how he would work in the public sector, foreign policy etc.

And EPU certainly respect your opinion but my view of Perry is like Menlo, a figurehead the wayTexas is set up. My calls to a red precinct found people incredibly angry over TTC, the vaccines for teen aged girls, most thought he was not tough enough on immigration. I think we need an unusually bright and talented person at this time and to me Perry falls way short. JMO

He is an admitted Rockefeller Republican.

Also, he basically took himself out of the running when he admitted his favorite music is Enya. That kills any man with two balls in a GOP Primary out of the gate.

I will abstain if he runs.

Thankfully, I don’t think he has a chance or wants to run.

She is doing that right.

The media loved McCain until he won the nomination, when he then became an out of touch old guy who laughablly didn’t know how to use a web browser.

One the plusses about Palin is that the MSM attack dogs can’t really do any more general image damage than they have already done. Another plus is that we can see how Palin responds and how effective the response.

The second any R candidate looks like they might win the nomination, the MSM will do whatever it can to push the standard stupid/lack of gravitas/etc meme.

The left is irrelevant to the calculus of who we should nominate. Ability to draw independents matters, but not what leftists do.

The media loved McCain until he won the nomination, when he then became an out of touch old guy who laughablly didn’t know how to use a web browser.

One the plusses about Palin is that the MSM attack dogs can’t really do any more general image damage than they have already done. Another plus is that we can see how Palin responds and how effective the response.

The second any R candidate looks like they might win the nomination, the MSM will do whatever it can to push the standard stupid/lack of gravitas/etc meme.

The left is irrelevant to the calculus of who we should nominate. Ability to draw independents matters, but not what leftists do.

How did that work out…?

Palin controls her media exposure quite effectively and is neutralizing all her negative stereotypes. When she runs her own show she does pretty damn well.

She has written two best sellers, she is a Fox News contributor, she has her own reality show, her daughter was a big hit on DWTS and she was a much sought after endorsement in the last election.
She has her own PAC and successful blogsite and she can generate a media storm with a mere tweet.

Some people may have a problem with her stepping down in Alaska but since then she has been untouchable and a rising star.

She has built a powerful media organization in just two years and when she wants to speak directly to America millions hear her voice.
Not bad for a girl.

That’s the opinion you should hold towards the end of 2011 AFTER the primary has had a chance to get going.

If Palin comes on strong and Presidential, and is getting traction, then she will win and face the Messiah.

It’s too early to eliminate anybody. Sarah, just like the others, has every right to run and she has EARNED it.

He has said, “What do I have to, short of suicide, to convince you guys I’m not running for president?”

I think that is a pretty strong statement that he isn’t running.

Can you imagine Obama trying to debate Christie? What a party that would be!

If Huck does not run, Palin would win it if the Primary campaign started today.

Let’s just see how it develops. If Sarah does not run, there may be other conservatives who get their courage up and appear to be good prospects.

If she does not run, the winner will HAVE to have her endorsement.

I don’t think it really matters whether you include Gary or not.

And then after that, do one more poll on using the same system, except who you will absolutely not vote for. Trust me there will be a spread between the two because the difference will be those that the individual A) doesn’t know much about, B) hasn’t made up their mind on, or C) is luke warm towards them.

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As a suggestion, not a challenge or anything you might want to look more at what some of the positive things people have done on the list instead of looking only at who has done the least things you disagree with.

Just a tip given in good faith, nothing more.

Regardless of which candidate we are talking about here, unelectable vs. electable is still a function of how we think their campaign will be constructed based on historically they have been conducted. That isn’t necessarily a full proof way to judge electability.

Technically speaking, if someone that we conceived as unelectable ran a non traditional campaign(something that is a big gamble) and people became drawn to it then it is conceivable that what ever factors that led us to believe they were unelectable could not actually occur.

It is purely for this fact that we should all reserve judgement because you could be surprised by someone.

That said yes I very much dislike Huckabee and Romney and find it hard to believe that they could do anything that would surprise me enough to vote for them. But there are plenty of candidates that I may find as to far down the list that I like, and who knows maybe they pull a rabbit and make a serious run for it. Or maybe there is someone that I have misjudged that uses something creative like a contract or discovers a new way to win an issue(as examples) that allows me to see them in a more positive light.

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Then I read comments from people like yours and I’m ready to work my but off for her, just to prove that A) she can win an election, B) she knows how to use the media, and C) in a contest between Obama and Palin, Palin would win hands down.

dantrademark–
Thank you for voicing what’s been on my mind. I’ve been a huge Palin supporter–even got to see her speak in person. She’s one of the sharpest knives in the drawer, did more than any other single individual to bring about the recent conservative electoral victories, and represents most of the values of most of us here.

But to be perfectly honest, even though, yes, she is an electrifying speaker, and a very engaging writer, she bombs in interviews and off-the-cuff situations. That is not good! When I hear people going on and on about how articulate she is, I feel like I’m the little boy in the emperor-has-no-clothes story. Which is exactly the way I felt 2 years ago when everyone was talking about how great Obama was. Sorry, but Sarah is NOT articulate off-the-cuff. And that famous debate with Biden? I don’t think she won it at all. Biden was lying through his teeth the whole time–but Palin just kept repeating “maverick” over and over.

I’m sorry to say all this negative about someone I hugely admire and appreciate–but it does seem like there’s a lot of herd mentality going on with Sarah fandom. Something to watch out for.

To my fellow RedState readers, conservatives, TEA Party patriots, and all others concerned: please stop trying to push this whole “Reagan for President” nonsense.

Personally, I like the man and think he’s a valuable asset within the conservative movement; but he is absolutely unelectable and would never win in a national election. He has been too thoroughly stigmatized, mocked, ridiculed, scandalized and trivialized in the popular media.

If you continue to support this folly, know that you are all but guaranteeing an Obama victory in 2012.

When I read polls like this, I’m genuinely frightened about the future of our country. People, this Reagan infatuation is insanity! Stop it!

They all can run in the primary. Why should anybody be disqualified from running?

Let’em run including the Cuda. If she can’t hack it, don’t vote for her.

Believe me, if she doesn’t come across as presidential, she won’t get the votes. After what she has done for conservatism and fighting Obama, she has more right than any of the boys to run.

He asked, “what do I have to do to convince you that I am not running for the presidency in 2012, commit suicide.” His words, not mine.

to believe that they really do mean no. Hounding is the correct descriptor.

Cain was a lot of peoples’ second choice. There are a lot of strange outcomes that result from runoff and several-round voting systems that would not result in others. I don’t really think that the first set of 2012 posts really told us much of anything for that very reason: we were voting on a pair of arbitrarily-selected candidates pitted against each other, not the entire field.

Well, now that we have a real poll, where all the losers can’t vote for “anyone but Palin”, isn’t it interesting that she is smoking everyone.

And, without asking her 2.5 million Facebook fans to vote for her… or any of her 330,000 Twitter followers…. like some others in that previous Cain victory result… “He garnered 8,900 votes to Governor Sarah Palin’s 8100 votes. Mighty impressive.” Yes, mightly impressive to spin a phony idea that he could beat Sarah Palin. Wow… what a weird bunch the right is… the strongest candidate is standing right in front of all of you and you just don’t believe it… would rather go with some weird, unkown, UNVETTED candidates who will get their butts whipped. Masochists.

And now, in this poll, he only gets 647 votes… What happened? Did all the other loser supporters now have to support their candidates? Did he not ask his Facebook and Twitter followers to vote.. again?

In regards to any single of your statement.

They are the only ones other than Palin that are known. That isn’t saying much.

Palin declined a run for party chair.

Has shown absolutely no likelihood of running. So we don’t want to skew the samples. I mean we could put Ronald Reagan on there and nobody could bring themselves to not vote for him. But its unlikely that the angel of Ronald Reagan is going to come down and run for president again.

You put on those that have actually shown willingness to run. Rubio like Christie would command high numbers, but since they are likely not running the poll would be useless.

Rombots would LOVE to push Sarah over to the RNC Chair, when in fact the BEST choice for the insider, country clubbin, east-coast, big-money raising with the deep pockets crowd is OBVIOUSLY…

Romney

Romney is the PERFECT RNC Chairman

And it will look like that for awhile until somebody with the XY chromosmes actually decides to step up and fight Obama and the Progressives 24/7 like Sarah.

If any of the …12…show they are men, it might convince Sarah to support them.

I wouldn’t hold your breath though.

Guess I need to do some research, because I have no idea where Bolton is on issues other than national security. Betcha dollars to donuts he doesn’t get particularly exercised about the killing of babies before birth.

weird unknown, unvetted candidate anymore then Sarah Palin was to a lot of us in 2008. There are political junkies like me who know all of the people and all of the things they stand for and they have a RIGHT just as Sarah has a RIGHT to be in the process to be chosen for the Republican candidate for President. I will tell you that coming here to smack anyone that another Redstater supports with hyperbolic commentary shows your ignorance not the sites or those commenting.

Every one gets an equal shot.

The Hillbuzz people are totally in Palin’s camp now. They said they were not going back to Hillary, even is she runs again. I wondered why Palins numbers were so high, and now we know. It kinds skews the poll. I also wondered if Conservatives 4 Palin were coming over to vote, or any of the other Palin websites. Hey, it’s all just for fun, it isn’t the election.

Sarah is very, very smart. And her prepared speeches are fabulous. (I know, I was there for one) The problem is she’s not good off-the-cuff. We need someone who would never, evern, not even on their very worst day, totally unprepared, have a Katie Couric moment.

you will see will be with your messiah Ron Paul if he tries to run again. Your significant following didn’t equal a blip on the radar last time, and it won’t this time either, that is, if he wants to waste his money, and yours again. He’s actually turning into the Ralph Nader of the Republican party, with the exception of his run as a libertarian the first time around.

she’s all yours. She read her lines well on SB1070, but on the things that really matter here in Arizona, she’s AWOL. Her budget, which was a combination of trimming some programs, raising taxes through Prop 100 and using $1.4B of “stimulus” funds to buy off the education lobby for a year is a disaster. When the legislature convenes, they will be facing a structural deficit of over $2B and a shortfall in THIS year of nearly $1B.

You can read more about it here.

We’ll be happy to duct tape her and ship via FedEx or UPS to wherever you might be.

No proposing presidential nominees who have never been governors, senators, or generals. It is unrealistic to think anyone else could win.

He’s probably been the biggest fiscal disaster in Arizona history, and has done effectively nothing about the crime rate in Maricopa County when compared to other counties in AZ.

But regardless of that point, Arapio will be 80 years old in 2012.