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Let’s Take Barack Obama’s Advice on the Debt Limit

Back in 2006, as the vote on the debt limit came up, Barack Obama, Joe Biden, and Harry Reid all voted against it.

Here is what I am calling on all Republicans to do.

They should go to the floor of their respective house in the congress and, before pledging to vote against the debt limit just like Barack Obama did when he was there, they should quote Barack Obama. Every single one of them.

“Increasing America’s debt weakens us domestically and internationally. Leadership means that ‘the buck stops here.’ Instead, Washington is shifting the burden of bad choices today onto the backs of our children and grandchildren. America has a debt problem and a failure of leadership. Americans deserve better.”

And if they want to quote some other Democrats who voted against increasing the debit ceiling, here’s Joe Biden:

But as the rest of the world copes with the waves of U.S. debt, we are now all in the same leaky boat. There is just so much of our debt other nations want to hold. The more of it they accumulate, the closer we are to the day when they will not want any more. When that happens, slowly or rapidly, our interest rates will go up, the value of their U.S. bonds will drop, and we will all have big problems. We need both more awareness, and more understanding, of this fundamental threat to our economic well being and the global economy. … The President’s budget plans will bring that number to $11.8 trillion at the end of the next 5 years. This is a record of utter disregard for our Nation’s financial future. It is a record of indifference to the price our children and grandchildren will pay to redeem our debt when it comes due. History will not judge this record kindly. My vote against the debt limit increase cannot change the fact that we have incurred this debt already, and will no doubt incur more. It is a statement that I refuse to be associated with the policies that brought us to this point.

And here is Harry Reid:

Given the explosion of debt in recent years, it is long past time for Washington to change the course and adopt a new fiscal policy. After all, the future of our economy and our Nation is at stake… If my Republican friends believe that increasing our debt by almost $800 billion today, and more than $3 trillion dollars over the last 5 years, is the right thing to do, they should be upfront about it. They should explain why they believe more debt is good for our economy. How can the Republican majority and this Congress explain to their constituents that trillions of dollars of new debt is good for our economy? How can they explain that they think it is fair to force our children, our grandchildren, and our great grandchildren to finance this debt through higher taxes? That is what will have to happen. Why is it right to increase this Nation’s dependence on foreign creditors? They should explain this. Maybe they can convince the public they are right. I doubt it, because most Americans know that increasing the debt is the last thing we should be doing. After all, I repeat, the baby boomers are about to retire. Under the circumstances, any credible economist would tell you we should be reducing debt , not increasing it. Again, on debt –Thomas Jefferson. These are his words: “And to preserve our independence, we must not let our rulers load us with perpetual debt . We must make our election between economy and liberty–or profusion and servitude.” That was President Thomas Jefferson. …We are being asked to do what should not be asked of us, to increase the debt to almost $9 trillion. I hope everyone walking down to these desks today will understand what they are doing, what they are doing to our country.

COMMENTS

  • southcoast

    Nothing could make this argument more compelling than clubbing Obama, Biden and Reid with their own bats. Such Poetic justice. The old ism “what goes around comes around” could not be more apt than in this situation. However, the Republicans must be principled in demanding the debt ceiling not be raised and the alternative of cutting the cost of government rather than the dishonest democrat tactic where they only shifted the cost around. These battles are going to be the basis for peoples’ voting choices in 2012. Republicans in both houses must make the right choices now and not hope for easy choices in another battle.

  • benko

    They should all do that voting against raising the debt limit and in the debate against the filibuster.

  • powertothepeople

    and fight hard as this is one of the most important issues facing them to date. We have got to stop the stupidity and we must know the dems are not out to help us. It matters little what they have said in the past, remember Obama trouncing Clinton for her HC mandates then he turns around and does the same, they will simply state it was taken out of context or problems were different back then.

    The thing that will kill this country faster than anything is the massive debt, piss poor budgeting, excessive spending, and the refusal of most in the Congress to do what is needed to get rid of our debt and out of control spending.

    We just need to keep notes on both sides and work hard to remove anyone who does not do the right thing. Maybe we can petition DeMint to start keeping names of all who act in a way opposite to what is best for America.

  • http://www.examiner.com/x-1597-Charlotte-Law--Politics-Examiner Mike gamecock DeVine

    I really think we would be better off repealing the law requiring these votes, and saving the real guts in a real game of chicken to budget votes that welcome government shutdowns, rather than risk the unthinkable failure to meet government obligations incurred.

    We ought to have an aggressive strategy that forces a government shutdown lest ObamaDems agree to real big cuts that fire bureaucrats.

  • Tony82

    I’m all for rubbing this in the Dems’ faces and pointing out how petty, immature, and irresponsible they were. That doesn’t mean we should turn around and do the same thing.

    Best play, IMO, is to use the debt limit as leverage. Exchange a vote for a slight increase for steep spending cuts and structural tax reform, or even Paul Ryan’s roadmap. Then repeat the process in 6-12 months.

  • Christine (Trelaina)

    or come up with some sort of DEAL to make THEM happy.

    Deals are what got us a lame duck session that could have been as bad as the whole previous 2 years put together. We got lucky there.

    We may not want to use the immature “I won” but it’s a fact. Democrats didn’t deal with us on HCR, they slammed it through. Why should we EVER let them have a win to get something that we could get, on our own, by showing the American people that it is right?

    We don’t need to feed them any carrots…they just chew them up and spit them in our faces!

    No deals. Quote their immaturity for all to hear. Vote the right way. Push the right bills. No earmarks. Keep your promises. HONOR and Conservative values will win the day.

  • http://www.flaliberty.org scorpio0679

    We don’t have to “go along” in order to reach a deal. Yes, the debt ceiling issue is a sticking point. However, the answer is to attach a balanced budget amendment to the bill that would force the dems to either enact a balanced budget amendment or oppose it and kill the debt ceiling bill.

    I argued for this in a diary that I posted today. I hope that the GOP goes this route.

  • http://www.flaliberty.org scorpio0679

    Mike, what do you think about the proposal to attach a balanced budget amendment to the debt ceiling being raised? I argued for it in this diary and the idea seems to be gaining momentum.

    I think strategically it can’t lose.

  • doubledok

    Let’s paste this on every verical surface in the congress and all over every news outlet. I further suggest the vote preface include. . .”In support of pur president, vice president and Senate Majority Leader’s long established policy against raising of the debt ceiling, I concur with their spirit and philosophy of economic responsiblity as I cast my vote to also oppose the debt ceiling, I vote “nay”and submit these quotes form Mr. Obam, Mr. Bidena nd Mr. Reid. . .”

    Then offer amendment to balance the budget, repeal Obamacare, etc.as a condition.

  • melbedewy

    they still need to hold the debt ceiling “hostage” to a bipartisan deal on real spending cuts.

  • http://www.examiner.com/x-1597-Charlotte-Law--Politics-Examiner Mike gamecock DeVine

    My main problem with such amendments is that the term “emergency” waivers is difficult to define as a self limitation. But we do know that debt ceiling votes have been no real restraint given where we are. Moreover the fact is that the separation of powers between two houses and the executive is supposed to be self-limiting, but when We the People and/or our representatives have no discipline/character, there is no law that can save us.

    What we need is the courage to say no, ie to fire federal employees and cut entitlements so that we live within our means. I fear only a deeper crisis will have to force us to cut back.

    more later

  • mspector

    There are a number of things like this (e.g., Obama’s position in favor of securing our borders as expressed in 2008) as to which our candidate in 2012 should simply demand that Obama (and Biden, assuming he knows how to pronounce “yes” and “no”) answer with “yes” or “no”: (quoting what he said in 2006): “do you still agree with yourself? yes or no”. These are questions he cannot answer either way without sounding like a total twit.

  • miroco

    Our Affirmative Action appointee proved himself right to take no stand at all, principled or otherwise, just vote present and shut up. Every time we find a record he has proven himself to be as stupid as the commie press says he is smart. What a wuss, I’m sort of hoping he actually is from Kenya, I am becoming more certain his transcripts will prove the only way he ever passed a course is by taking the (Whatever points lefties give to their pets)

  • Common_Cents

    I thought Obama turned the country around? What happened the millions of jobs created or saved?

    We now have over 43 million people on food stamps. All time highs. Every 7th or 8th person on food stamps. Way to go Obama, yeah those unemployment numbers are real accurate from BS, ooops, BLS.

  • albro62

    just pussy-footing around the problem.

    NO! to raising the debt ceiling! Use these same arguments? I don’t think the Republicans have the same gumption as obama, biden, and reid. Let’s see.

    Those who don’t learn from history are bound to repeat it. Each elected Republican member of both houses should take a turn repeating what all three of them said. And then vote NO.

    I can only imagine their return volley when their own words are used against them, hundreds of times.

    I wasn’t happy with Bush’s spending, but obama makes Bush look like a piker.

  • cpa2222

    Enough is enough! We are right about this, and it’s not the time to compromise on the principle. Make the Dems take the position that status quo is what they’re after. Be careful about the quotes, though, as I’m sure there are equally damning quotes from McConnell, Boehner, Bush, et al. I’d hate to have those quoted by the Dems–we just look like schoolyard children–all hurling words. Vote to stop the spending, and NO ACCOUNTING GAMES!

  • radicalrighty

    The “all in” MSM will not report anything that makes their hero and his party look bad, so, much like Obama’s blantent lies about signing statements, it will be ignored, as if it never happened.

    Kinda like the tree in the forest that norbody heard fall . . .

  • radicalrighty

    The “all in” MSM will not report anything that makes their hero and his party look bad, so, much like Obama’s blantent lies about signing statements, it will be ignored, as if it never happened.

    Kinda like the tree in the forest that norbody heard fall . . .

  • http://www.patriotactionnetwork.com/profile/semperfi sirjason

    Which ever party rules the day the other party always has a ‘bettter plan’, goes to extremes to prove their plan is best for America and condemns the other party’s plan.

    Therein lies the age old problem with political routines! Greed and power by these professional, political, parasites is all that is on their mind!

    “We the People…” demand governance of the people, by the people and for the people and we are acting strongly against this status quo that has existed for more than a century in both partys of lieing, cheating and stealing just for power!

    The 2010 election was the beginning of removing a bunch of these corrupt politicians all over the country! The 2012 election will send a bunch more packing for their final trip back home to be replaced with American patriots who believe our Constitution is the “law of the land” who, will ENFORCE our laws!

  • Common_Cents

    Heck, they didn’t even produce a budget?

    How do you put teeth in any agreement with them so that they even do what they agree to?

    Making deals with DEMS is like Charlie Brown making a deal with Lucy to finally hold the football still.

  • apostlebill

    I would love to be able to display video clips of these statements being made. This clearly illustrates the hypocricy of the Washington elite – a hypocric that unfortunately exists on both sides.

  • MF
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  • acat

    And in this case, I will.

    The idea of tying the debt limit to a balanced budget amendment is interesting – my biggest concern would be finding enough of that Most Elite Debating Club who would actually vote for it.

    Blackwell, in the diary linked above, does not go far enough and, IMO, comes across as saying “Let’s try”, not “Let’s do”.

    Mew

  • http://www.examiner.com/x-1597-Charlotte-Law--Politics-Examiner Mike gamecock DeVine

    I favor demanding that Medicaid be changed to block grants in exchange for raising the debt ceiling, with caveats here:

    Would live the thoughts of pussy-footers, MFs, rightys and especially albro62, because I do think he had a good point.

    cock-a-doodle-do

  • http://www.examiner.com/x-1597-Charlotte-Law--Politics-Examiner Mike gamecock DeVine

    http://www.redstate.com/gamecock/2011/04/19/erect-medicaid-cei/

  • acat
  • MF

    Just so no one thinks I was mocking anyone, their screen name or their ideas, I was merely making a bad pun, nothing more. (Is there any such thing as a good pun? ;-)

  • acat

    No complaint from this cat, MF. I just took it as an invitation to jump in on an interesting discussion that I’d missed.

    To paraphrase Blagojevich, the debt ceiling is a pocking valuable thing…. (grin)

    Mew

  • http://www.examiner.com/x-1597-Charlotte-Law--Politics-Examiner Mike gamecock DeVine

    more detail in a more technical column in a week or so.

    http://www.redstate.com/gamecock/2011/04/21/yes-virginia-there-is-a-direct-supreme-court-appeal-clause/

  • MF