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The Blame Game and Prayers Begin

By: Erick Erickson (Diary)  |  January 8th, 2011 at 02:32 PM  | 

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Editorial Note: This morning, prior to this news, we were running a caption contest on this cartoon. We have suspended that contest and removed the cartoon from the front page.

— Erick

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A terrible tragedy today. Rep. Giffords of Arizona was gunned down and, though early reports were that she is dead, the hospital is confirming, as of this writing, that she is alive and in surgery. 11 others were apparently shot and six others are dead.

I spent an hour with Rep. Giffords a few months ago. She and I were sitting in Jim Bohannon’s studio with Robert Reich was on the air. She’d driven him over to the studio. We chatted for an hour. We disagreed on much. She was extremely, exceedingly nice.

My prayers are for her and her family.

Unfortunately, the left is using this tragedy to score political points. Rep. Giffords was on Gov. Palin’s target list for defeat this past November. The left claims Gov. Palin has blood on her hands. So does the tea party movement.

Less than a year ago a gunman stormed into the Discovery Channel’s headquarters, taking hostages and threatening to kill them all. The left immediately accused the man of being a tea party activist.

Unfortunately for the left, the man turned out to be an envirowacko leftist raised on Algore’s global warming garbage.

Immediately, the left changed their tune and proclaimed that no longer could we as partisans accuse each other of causing things like this. There are just crazy people in the world and tragedies happen.

My, my how quickly they forget.

The truth is there is evil in this world. Evil exists where God does not and as we drive God further and further away, evil creeps in more and more. Today was not a random act of violence. It was a profound evil.

Let’s not pretend it wasn’t. Let’s not pretend evil does not exist.

But let’s not let the left, yet again, spin this against the tea party movement, Rush Limbaugh, Glenn Beck, or Sarah Palin inciting violence. That’s both a profound lie and just another, though lesser, bit of evil.

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  • barleycorn

    This is an attack on America, our institutions and our freedoms. Whoever did this, no matter his motives, acted out of deranged evil and anyone who tries to make political hay out of this is sick.

    Before we are conservative or liberal, or left or right, or Republican or Democrat, we are Americans. This is tragic and could have far reaching consequences that hurt all Americans.

    Again, this and all actions like it, are a direct attack on the United States of America and every good thing we have stood for over the last 234 years.

  • http://www.MuskogeePolitico.com jamisonfaught

    Praise the Lord – the initial report of her death is being taken back. Reuters and some law enforcement are saying that she’s still in surgery, very critical condition, but NOT dead.

  • JadedByPolitics

    I will tell anyone who will listen how despicable they are that while this woman clung to life how they ripped her humanity away to make a political point and suggest you all do the same until the crescendo is so loud they skulk away to the dark corners to which they belong.

  • gekster

    and in critical condition.
    just the same, don’t quit praying.

  • runner12

    Do you not care that this woman was a mother and wife? She is a human being and so were the others who were shot. They are not simply poltical fodder that can be tossed around.

    Just because Palin wanted to defeat her in office or disagreed with her politically does not mean that she wanted her to be harmed. People, please have a heart. Our focus right now should be to pray that this woman will live and survive this tragedy ( Fox is reporting that she is alive, but in critical condition).

    Make no mistake, this was an attack on the US. Someone shot at a United States Representative and her staff. This is a sad daty and I hope that the person who committed this crime will be brough to justice.

  • smagar

    Newspapers:

    - Arizona Republic is the state’s most professional newspaper, out of Phoenix
    - Arizona Daily Star is Tucson’s only “real” newspaper. Google: “azstarnet”

    Online papers:

    The Tucson Citizen and Tucson Weekly will be the most pro-liberal. (Tucson Weekly is an alternative newspaper). If you’re looking for slurs on Republicans, they’ll most likely start here.

    On TucsonCitizen.com, watch the following bloggers, whose disdain/hatred for Republicans is most white-hot
    - Desert, Science and Hot Dogs: The Three Sonorans
    - Tucson Progressive
    - View From Baja Arizona
    - The Data Port

    If you’re looking for the places where “blame-the-Republican” comments are likely to emerge, watch the Weekly and the Citizen.

  • smagar
  • http://www.buckforcolorado.com bjwilson83

    Just disgusting. The Pima County Democratic Party is already trying to score political points with this on CNN.

  • carmen

    … and not one word on the perp’s race. (You KNOW the MSM would have posted it by now if he “looked” like a TEA party patriot)

    I say the left will be rendered VERY quiet (a la the Discovery Channel gunman) when his identity/motive are confirmed.

    Continued prayers for her, her family, and the other victims and their families.

  • Jack_Savage

    Clean shaven, short hair, mid 20′s.

  • proudgop

    over this. I am sure press will use this to demonize the Tea Party crowd to no end

    No rational person can kill anyone in this manner. I pray for her kids especially they are way too young to not have their mother to not be around.

  • Common_Cents
  • peterfny

    It’s sad that the Left seems to almost jump with glee when something tragic like this happens because they see an opportunity to mine it for political capital, rather than being concerned about the victims involved. It’s shameful and tells you all you need to know about the most sick of the sick on the Left. If it comes out this was a protest against her immigration policies, watch how they all retreat like cowards.

  • StandardCandle

    You have to install Microsoft’s Silverlight to watch feed:

    KOLD Local News Online Stream

    NPR article is updated regularly HERE

  • traversecityconservative

    Unfortunately, this is a call to arms on the leftie websites like Daily Kos – they want the guns taken away, the talk show hosts inciting violence off the air and they want this to be the end of Sarah Palin for “targeting” her during the elections. I’m not a conspiracy theorist but I don’t even put it past the libs to do things like this on purpose to further their goals and political figures. It is more likely that the shooter will turn out to be a registered Democrat than anything else. And we will probably hear Sarah Palin’s name this week more than Giffords. And the libs will not feel guilty about it at all.

  • throwback59

    for one of the local papers, a Fitzpatrick, I believe. He started out saying this was the fault of the “Right Wing.” Disgusting.
    May God have mercy on the victims and pray for the wounded.

  • silentcal2012

    The left also jumped the gun on the loon who drove his plane into a building in Texas. His writings were full of anti-Bush hate. I think the also jumped the gun on the Fort Hood psycho, saying it may have been a right wing radical, then saying it had nothing to do with his Muslim background.

  • melbedewy

    the Daily Kooks were making “jokes” about Scalia dying.
    By the way, Giffords was a Blue Dog which on that blog is called a “Bush Dog”-a species they have repeatedly called on to be “exterminated”, “wiped out”, etc.

    Here is a post from one JtinDc from Jan. 4 on that lovely blog:
    ” I will be dancing in the street on the day evil scumbags like Cheney and Scalia die. If any of them get buried anyuwhere within my geographic location I will make every effort to spit and pi*s on their graves on at least an annual basis.” followed up by one two Moms in AZ who states “I feel bad that I agree with you “.
    Then we have another humanist called teachme2night chime in with “I can’t think of a single way Scalia could die that would fail to make me laugh out loud and dance a little jig.”

    Somebody with more internet knowledge then I needs to save these posts before TV Markos deletes them.

  • olsmithie

    Just heard CNN reporter keep prodding Pima County Dem committee leader until he got a gun control comment out of him.
    Pima county leader’s main concern, rightly so, was the welfare of the injured, but the reporter couldn’t help himself….
    Prayers for the Rep. and others injured.

    Regards

  • ashland_avenue

    May the One who was a source of blessing for our ancestors, bring blessings of healing upon Gabriel Giffords, a healing of body and a healing of spirit. May those in whose care they are entrusted be gifted with wisdom and skill, and those who surround them be gifted with love and trust, openness and support in their care. And may they be healed along with all those who are in need. Blessed are You, Source of healing.

  • carolina
  • carolina
  • froster

    nt

  • chamberD

    G. Giffords is my congresswoman, and I wanted to see her replaced by Jesse Kelly. Nevertheless, I am exceedingly sad to learn that she ? and others ? have been shot.

    Prayers for all of them are in order, and also for our nation ? as I do not think that the people who boast of not letting a crisis go to waste will hesitate to further their leftist, anti-Constitutional agenda through using as a pretext this despicable incident.

  • aesthete

    /sarc

  • rwtimm

    http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2011/01/democratic-rep-gabrielle-giffords-6-others-shot-at-arizona-safeway/69138/

    The gunman, who may have come from inside the Safeway, walked up and shot Gifford in the head first. According to Rayle, who is a former ER doctor, Gifford was able to move her hands after being shot.

    After shooting Gifford, the gunman opened fire indiscriminately for a few seconds, firing 20-30 rounds and hitting a number of people, including a kid no older than 10 years old. Rayle hid behind a concrete pole and pretended to be dead. When the gunman apparently ran out of ammunition he attempted to flee, but a member of Gifford?s staff tackled him. Rayle helped hold the gunman down while waiting for the sheriff to arrive, about 15-to-20 minutes later. The EMS came about 30 minutes later. Rayle said he was ?stunned? by how long it took medical help to arrive.

    The gunman was young, mid-to-late 20s, white, clean-shaven with short hair and wearing dark clothing and said nothing during the shooting or while being held down, although he struggled at first. He was ?not particularly well-dressed?; he didn?t look like a businessman, but more of a ?fringe character,? Rayle said. The sheriff?s department arrived, arrested the gunman and cordoned off the parking lot.

  • aesthete

    Two years ago she was my Congresswoman, and I wanted Kelly to win. My prayers (and Kelly’s, I’m sure) go out to Giffords.

  • ladyimpactohio
  • conservativemusician

    You know…the funeral service that turned into a campaign rally? It was disgusting and the left’s predictable reaction to this tragic situation reminds me of that pathetic display. As Erick alluded to in the Discovery Channel incident, the left will use anything to gain an advantage politically – including using the possible death of one of their own at the hands of a deranged lunatic to do it. They are despicable and heartless – but fortunately, the God that many of libs do not actually believe in is in control, even when senseless evil like this rears its ugly head.

    My prayers go out to the Giffords family and I hope that she will make a full recovery.

    Respectfully, conservativemusician

  • smagar

    He’s also very down on the Mormon community in AZ, which (in his opinion) doesn’t support governmental social programs as aggressively as it should.

  • Jack_Savage

    Sounds about right.

  • ladyimpactohio

    diary by Blue Boy who says he worked to get Giffords elected & because she voted against Pelosi as speaker, she (Giffords) was dead to him.

    Downloaded it though. Have it on my desk top. Pretty nasty stuff.

  • wizenedelder

    The facts have not come out, but I think it’s very interesting that you all are condemning the left for their reaction in much the same fashion that the left is blaming this on the right.

    We’ll see what the facts are. What will you say if he is a tea party guy?

  • smagar

    Fitz is a well-known quantity in Arizona media, as an incessant critic of the GOP. Also, Fitz is known for saying provocative things.

    If CNN called Fitz directly…it wouldn’t surprise me if CNN wanted to air comments trashing Republicans. If so, they went to the right place.

    Did Fitzsimmons identify himself as a representaive of the Arizona Daily Star?

  • http://www.redstate.com/tnjim TNJim

    I just shut off tweetdeck. Same thing going on Palin’s Facebook page.

  • smagar
  • Christine (Trelaina)

    It is horrible and the [person] who did it should fast-track to the death penalty.

    We don’t condone evil and we don’t excuse it. EVER.

  • runner12

    Good grief, that is sick. The speculation should not even be going on while this woman is fighting for her life. Our focus should be on praying for her and those who have been wounded.

  • runner12

    Good grief, that is sick. The speculation should not even be going on while this woman is fighting for her life. Our focus should be on praying for her and those who have been wounded.

  • http://www.gmsplace.com/ civil_truth

    We’re not interested in speculation but waiting for the facts to emerge, which may take several days. the left has already started the same familiar litany, as the author described.

    And the reactions are not equivalent – the left is already condemning right wing political figures and groups as responsible, the author and the rest of us are simply condemning the left’s script.

    And pray tell me, where in the “tea party” movement has there been a call by responsible adherents for assassination? I haven’t heard it.

  • Common_Cents

    This is courtesy of DAILYkos.com

    “My CongressWOMAN voted against Nancy Pelosi! And is now DEAD to me!
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    by BoyBlue
    Thu Jan 06, 2011 at 11:07:17 AM PST

    I am from the Tucson area and live in Congresswoman, Gabrielle Giffords’ district. I worked like a dog for her elections when she was in the Arizona House, surrounded by rightwing nutcases. When Arizona re-districted in 2002, a seat opened up and she was right smack in the middle of it. So was I because I live in Oro Valley, Arizona, which is at the heart of that – then – new CD. I was one of several people to talk her into running and pledging complete loyalty and pledging to raise as much money as possible for her.

    She ended up running for the first time against a fellow AZ House member, Randy Graf who was a rightwing whacko who advocated guns in bars and was the “Russell Pearce before Russell Pearce” vis-a-vis border issues. With a LOT of hard work and plenty of money, Gabby won. Easier than thought, too. I never like to throw money in people’s faces, but i have given Gabrielle Giffords THOUSANDS and THOUSANDS of dollars in both good times and bad times for me financially.

    * BoyBlue’s diary :: ::
    *

    Fast forward to this election season. A weirdo asshole named Jesse Kelly who advocated ELIMINATING Social Security and was a tea bagger favorite got the GOP nom to run against her. I am gay and had been married and my spouse left me January 15, 2010. I shot myself in the mouth in a serious suicide attempt, because of that. Barely surviving, I spent two months in the hospital and still have some paralysis. I did receive a severance from my employer, as i had been laid off in December, 2009. That may have been part of the reason my spouse left me.

    Anyway, after months of physical and mental rehab, I got back into the political scene and started working for Gabby once again. I raised over $100,000 for her and maxed her out myself out of my severance, even though i still don’t have work and could not qualify for state aid because of my severance.

    She wins her re-election and told me she was still a supporter of Speaker Pelosi at her victory party. We talked about how Nancy Pelosi was a successful woman and accomplished oh so much in just four years as Speaker.

    Today, just a little while ago, I saw on Andrea Mitchell Reports (out of the one eye in can still see out of) that Giffords voted AGAINST Nancy Pelosi as our Minority Leader. Rhetorical question: I fought back from my condition and jumped in with both feet to help Gabrielle Giffords for THIS shit???

    Congresswoman Gabrielle Giffords is dead to me now. I won’t lift a finger, make one phone call, nor will i EVER vote for her in the future. And why did she do this? Giffords never told me she was conservative Democrat. And her voting record is okay. Damn.”

  • proudmarinemom

    I tried but it went down before I could screenshoot it.

  • gekster

    but from the left:

    from HuffPo

    LWilkinson315

    OMG :(
    My prayers are with the Congresswo?man and her family.
    I have a really bad feeling in the pit of my stomach- what has conservati?ve media done to our nation?

    I just heard that she is responding to commands from doctors.
    Keep the prayers coming.

  • http://908StraightSt.wordpress.com/ mbecker908

    will face due process, and in AZ, with six dead (last report I saw) it’s a capital case, he’ll get the death penalty & good riddance.

    Is that clear enough for you?

  • Jack_Savage

    The left prays for days like this, while the right prays they will never come. The left leaps to score political points, while the right falls to their knees in prayer for the victims.

    You’re seeing it right before your eyes.

  • nvrepub

    nt

  • proudmarinemom

    asap.

  • http://www.redstate.com/tnjim TNJim

    from Kos before posting it here.

  • aesthete

    Except for the small-minded and vituperative trying to score political points, jack. The only question I want answered regarding the killer is how long it will take to fasten him to an electric chair (and I think I can speak for the whole of the conservative community when I say that).

  • JSobieski

    We are condemning a large group of individuals (not a single stray blogger) for making blanket condemnations about a large group of Americans based on what is at this point speculation about a single individual.

    Get the difference?

    Who the perp is for the purposes of this analysis is irrelevant. The perp is one person.

  • JSobieski

    We are condemning a large group of individuals (not a single stray blogger) for making blanket condemnations about a large group of Americans based on what is at this point speculation about a single individual.

    Get the difference?

    Who the perp is for the purposes of this analysis is irrelevant. The perp is one person.

  • andysmith

    and that we don’t care what party he’s registered for, who he voted for, etc, etc, etc. At this point he’s a criminal and should have the death penalty appplied.

  • gekster

    Brent Willcom
    ‘Don’t tread on me’ remember those tea party signs? Or how about, “next time, we’re coming loaded.” The time for news stations like Fox, to be held accountabl?e for this horrendous crime IS NOW!

    and from BDErice
    Extreme right wing is violent and crazy. They believe that fighting the American government on behalf of multi-nati?onal corporatio?ns is patriotic.

    and all they know is the gunman is 20ish and white, well dressed.

  • Jack_Savage

    …while ignoring the Colombine shooter’s virulent anti-Christianity.

  • runner12

    Judge John Roll was killed in this shooting. He has a judge appointed by Pres. Bush in 1991. This is a sad day in America when our elected and appointed officials are attacked like this.

  • runner12

    Judge John Roll was killed in this shooting. He has a judge appointed by Pres. Bush in 1991. This is a sad day in America when our elected and appointed officials are attacked like this.

  • conservativemusician

    (n/t)

  • reesforcongress

    I’ve got it. Saved on my desktop. They’re braying about Palin’s PAC taking down the “gun sights” map. Funny, they’re not saying a word about the KOS scrub. I’m shocked. *sarcasm*

  • carolina
  • runner12

    All they know is that Judge Roll was among those shot.

  • proudmarinemom
  • http://www.buckforcolorado.com bjwilson83

    Kos and others are throwing a fit about Palin scrubbing the target list (I’m not sure, but that may have been done some time ago). He might want to take a look in the mirror, as he scrubbed this article pretty fast.

  • BigGator5

    I got it too. BlueBoy should be ashame of himself.

  • ladyimpactohio

    not gonna post it, will save for law enforcement if they ask. With all the comments.

  • http://www.redstate.com/tnjim TNJim

    Shep wasn’t sure. of pronunciation.

  • eastbaylarry

    Seems I’ve heard that from the Marxists before.

  • BigGator5

    Err, I mean BoyBlue.

    I also got a screen cap, so it wouldn’t disappear down the memory hole.

  • runner12

    those of us on RedState that we wholeheartedly condemn these actions. Who would not? Good grief, this guy opened fire on a crowd of innocent people.

    Thank goodness that there were courageous people in there who tackled him and subdued him.

  • runner12

    those of us on RedState that we wholeheartedly condemn these actions. Who would not? Good grief, this guy opened fire on a crowd of innocent people.

    Thank goodness that there were courageous people in there who tackled him and subdued him.

  • JadedByPolitics

    Yeah you won’t be back, because you are not of the right, that is apparent. WE don’t sling arrows while people are fighting for their lives. We give the dead and dying the dignity they deserve and not use them as political pawns, that is a bug of the left.

  • paulnashtn
  • eastbaylarry
  • paulnashtn

    This is a shooting with political motives but we really have NO idea WHAT political motives and all this mudslinging should wait until later and concentrate on prayers for the living and the families of the dead

  • Christine (Trelaina)
  • Christine (Trelaina)

    and there is optimism for her recovery. Keep praying…

  • conservativemusician

    But the tenor of wizendelder’s original comment was very insensitive and more focussed on taking shots at the right than extending prayers to the families of the victims of the shooting. This is what the left does all the time and I’m sick of, so as Jaded also correctly alludes to down thread, my question to him was more in getting him to expose who he really is.

    I agree with others on this thread who have stated that it is irrelevant what the shooter’s political views are. Regardless of what they are, the guy is obviously deranged and does not represent what the conservative movement is.

  • Christine (Trelaina)

    I see by the updated comment below that this was not what I originally assumed :)

  • andysmith

    that I have Facebook friends that are blaming Sarah Palin for this….
    “Dear Sarah Palin, Nice work with the whole crosshair, Don’t Retreat, Reload bit. You twit.”
    Poor woman is fighting for her life, her family doesn’t know if she’ll survive, and all they can do is try to score political points. Shameful.

  • andysmith

    that I have Facebook friends that are blaming Sarah Palin for this….
    “Dear Sarah Palin, Nice work with the whole crosshair, Don’t Retreat, Reload bit. You twit.”
    Poor woman is fighting for her life, her family doesn’t know if she’ll survive, and all they can do is try to score political points. Shameful.

  • Bill S

    Bad day to be a smartass, I’m afraid. If you have a burning desire to be reinstated, visit the Contact link. Don’t expect a whole lot of sympathy from me, on a day where Markos showed what a deep scumbag he is by blaming Sarah Palin. The Left is a sick breed.

  • Bill S
  • Jack_Savage

    Anti-God, semi-right wing, and thoroughly, completely detached from reality.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nHoaZaLbqB4

  • gekster

  • ladyimpactohio

    had one gunshot to the head, thru & thru. Dr. Reed. He is optimistic for a recovery, but not sure what kind of recovery.

    Dr. Reed also says a girl about 9 years old was killed.

    Our prayers are working for Giffords.

  • Jack_Savage

    If this is true, and I am not sure it is, a friend of mine who is a psychologist has seen this type of thing before. Generally, psychosis manifests itself in late adolescence – early twenties. This man was nothing more and nothing less than psychotic. I would venture to say that law enforcement knew him well, as did campus police and Psychological Services at whatever school or university he attended, and it may come out that he had been involuntarily committed to the psych ward at a local hospital.

    This horrific tragedy seems to be the result, as is usually the case, of a severe mental illness.

  • runner12

    Just got the questions and replies confused.

  • carolina
  • JadedByPolitics

    …

  • http://thesandsinstitute.org Vassar Bushmills

    …and may well have been the target. He and family had been under strong fed protection for two years over an illegal immigration trial.

    Watch and wait.

  • redneck_hippie

    The name is spelled differently. Jared Lee LOughner.

    In any case, this JL LOughner looks a nut. He thinks he is a terrorist (?).

    Here is his reading list from his YT Channel:

    Books:
    I had favorite books: Animal Farm, Brave New World, The Wizard Of OZ, Aesop Fables, The Odyssey, Alice Adventures Into Wonderland, Fahrenheit 451, Peter Pan, To Kill A Mockingbird, We The Living, Phantom Toll Booth, One Flew Over The Cuckoo’s Nest, Pulp,Through The Looking Glass, The Communist Manifesto, Siddhartha, The Old Man And The Sea, Gulliver’s Travels, Mein Kampf, The Republic, and Meno

  • Jack_Savage

    n/t

  • ladyimpactohio

    I had favorite books: Animal Farm, Brave New World, The Wizard Of OZ, Aesop Fables, The Odyssey, Alice Adventures Into Wonderland, Fahrenheit 451, Peter Pan, To Kill A Mockingbird, We The Living, Phantom Toll Booth, One Flew Over The Cuckoo’s Nest, Pulp,Through The Looking Glass, The Communist Manifesto, Siddhartha, The Old Man And The Sea, Gulliver’s Travels, Mein Kampf, The Republic, and Meno.”

    Read more: http://www.businessinsider.com/jared-lee-loughner-2011-1#ixzz1ATv2QeAs

  • runner12

    what this guy posted on YouTube on Fox and he sounds like someone who is mentally ill. His sentences were incoherent and like gibberish. It seems that he just targeted the largest group of people he could find. Absolutely disgusting.

  • runner12

    what this guy posted on YouTube on Fox and he sounds like someone who is mentally ill. His sentences were incoherent and like gibberish. It seems that he just targeted the largest group of people he could find. Absolutely disgusting.

  • melissatx

    Some of his posings elsewhere….the guy sounded like he had enough material from both left and right to be dangerous, but not an idealogue following a party line.

    I have ALREADY seen accusations that he was a TEA PARTY person, but from what I have seen he was sure the Amendments to the Consituttion invalidated it along with other strange takes on the US.

    He is a loon.

  • Jack_Savage

    Interesting – also has been reported that another person has been arrested, with a third sought.

  • JSobieski

    The entire thing is gibberish.

    The only thing remotely political about it is the plug for gold/silver over fiat currency.

    That guy is really messed up!

  • ladyimpactohio
  • Jack_Savage

    …LE needs to be breaking down his door right now.

  • runner12

    Roll was among one of those killed. Very sad.

  • gekster

    It is not stated who.
    A private citizen or security.

  • josephusmyer

    He talks about starting your own currency, terrorist just being a label, government trying to force people to read Bibles, brainwashing and similar.

    Lists Farenheit 451, Communist Manifesto and Mein Kampf as favourite books.

    I’m not sure you can classify that kind of ideology as anything other than crazy.

    Whilst a lot of people on our side of the political spectrum don’t like big government, I think there’s a massive gap between wanting to reform entitlement programs (as the mainstream right does) and believing that people in authority are trying to brainwash people (as this nutjob does).

  • JadedByPolitics

    Mein Kampf

    What we have here is a one of those “liberatarians (not old school), anarchists, liberals” that have been swirling at the bottom of the bowl of ideology, that I have mentioned before.

  • carolina
  • Jack_Savage

    “?.the guy sounded like he had enough material from both left and right to be dangerous, but not an idealogue following a party line.”

    The left is going to be so, so disappointed if this doesn’t work out for them.

  • josephusmyer

    I mean, I know people who are fairly libertarian, and they don’t believe government is trying to brainwash people.

  • http://www.redstate.com/tnjim TNJim

    More disturbing than the one gekster put up.

  • redneck_hippie

    He speaks about the past tense in a way that indicates he was contemplating certain actions. Mental disturbance quite evident.

    http://bit.ly/egw1RL

  • Jack_Savage

    gekster’s link still works – can we save it somehow?

  • JadedByPolitics

    MSNBCCNNNYT etc will call him a Conservative, we know better, those who watch them do not. I did include the disclaimer about Libertarians because those calling themselves that today are not of the classic meaning quite like liberals are not either. Progressives have infested them all and changed their entire identities. I have seen those three supposed ideologies as I say swirling into the bowl of ideologies for years which is why I say it as often as I can so perhaps if there are true Libertarians or liberals left they can fix that which ails them.

  • http://www.redstate.com/tnjim TNJim
  • grateful_red

    The normal age of onset for Schitzophrenia is the early 2nd decade for males and the late second decade for females — he’s 22-21

    If you look at his you-tube channel there is evidence of word salad, ruminating thoughts, racing thoughts….

    I bet when they interview him he will be found to have schitzophrenia.

    I think this will turn out to be a profound tragedy of a mentally disturbed and confused man.

    Oh – and BTW what Paul Krugman just wrote make him an absolute tool

  • Jack_Savage

    It needs to start with Barack Obama. A list of his inflammatory language would be very interesting to read. We could start with “hostage takers” – it’s OK to shoot them, right?

  • Jack_Savage

    They are certainly highly disturbing, and quite sickening to see.

  • runner12

    The ramblings he has made and his incoherence seem to point quite clearly to schizophrenia.

    I don’t think this had anything to do with politics. It is the actions of a mentally disturbed individual.

  • runner12

    The ramblings he has made and his incoherence seem to point quite clearly to schizophrenia.

    I don’t think this had anything to do with politics. It is the actions of a mentally disturbed individual.

  • http://thesandsinstitute.org Vassar Bushmills

    the kid reportedly is a marxist-nazi lover (left a vid), read anarchist, who neither Left nor Right claim, but is usually Left. The judge was under protection over an illegals case in fed court there, so Mex drug lords also part of the mix.

  • http://thesandsinstitute.org Vassar Bushmills

    …and until they do, he had a purpose

  • http://thesandsinstitute.org Vassar Bushmills

    …he’s a minion of the Left

  • Patricia_C

    http://www.facebook.com/#!/profile.php?id=100001935064664

    Jared and Neuken Op de Fiets are now friends. ? Add Neuken as Friend.
    Jared is now friends with Brant Hansil and 10 other people…
    Jared added Sara Palin and Sarah Palin to his list of inspirational people..
    Jared changed his Interested In..
    Jared likes Tea Party Patriots and Sara Palin..
    Jared joined Facebook..

    He also lists:
    _______________________________________________________

    Basic Information.Sex Male

    Interested In Men
    _______________________________________________________

    He lists under Activities and Interests:

    “Tea Party Patriots”

    Other than that, the page is blank.

    Of course, liberal activists like “JoeMyGod” are busy putting out the message that this FaceBook page is “fake”.

    Interestingly… Remember a guy named Jason Levin? The man who started a website back in April called Crash The Tea Party… The man who encouraged his follwers to infiltrate the Tea Party in an effort to dismantle the organization by destroying the Tea Party through faking events of racism and violence to turn public opinion against them?

    Pajamas Media wrote a piece on him back in April of this year.

    http://pajamasmedia.com/blog/whos-behind-the-crash-the-tea-party-website/

    A post on his website read:

    WHO WE ARE: A nationwide network of Democrats, Republicans, and Independents who are all sick and tired of that loose affiliation of racists, homophobes, and morons; who constitute the fake grass-roots movement which calls itself ?The Tea Party.?
    WHAT WE WANT: To dismantle and demolish the Tea Party by any non-violent means necessary.
    HOW WE WILL SUCCEED: By infiltrating the Tea party itself! In an effort to propagate their pre-existing propensity for paranoia and suspicion. ? We have already sat quietly in their meetings and observed their rallies.
    Whenever possible, we will act on behalf of the Tea Party in ways which exaggerate their least appealing qualities (misspelled protest signs, wild claims in TV interviews, etc.) to further distance them from mainstream America and damage the public?s opinion of them. We will also use the inside information that we have gained in order to disrupt and derail their plans
    Sound like fun? ? It is!!

    If you try to go to his website today you will find this message:

    Notice: This domain has been redirected”
    If you are the registrant of this domain please contact
    invalidwhois@godaddy.com

    http://www.crashtheteaparty.org/

    Another interesting thing are those posts believed to have been written by Jared Laughner prior to the shooting in which he mentions poor spelling habits of others as his justification for trying to kill those innocent people today…

    Coincidents all?

  • ladyimpactohio

    http://krugman.blogs.nytimes.com/2011/01/08/assassination-attempt-in-arizona/?src=twt&twt=NytimesKrugman

    “We don?t have proof yet that this was political, but the odds are that it was.”

  • JadedByPolitics

    find him criminally insane because he ought to get the death penalty for his crimes.

  • Scope

    he shot a sitting Democrat Congressmanwoman, and, also shot and killed a Federal Judge that was appointed by Bush. Found Linda Lopez comments interesting when she called out the Tea Parties, and the awful things they said about Giffords in her recent 2010 election campaign.

  • swami7774

    ……until an hour or so ago the DCCC had a page that featured a map of America and several bullseyes in different locations. Each bullseye would call up a Republican congressman who, in the DCCC’s words, was “TARGETED” for pressure re the stimulus.
    As I said, that site has now been scrubbed. Wonder why? I took a few screen shots and will post if I can figure out how.

  • ladyimpactohio

    http://i276.photobucket.com/albums/kk14/skyeFA/kostarget2.jpg

  • Marcus_Traianus

    the initial reports of his behavior make me believe he will be shielded by one of the lefts greatest judicial inventions; the insanity defense.

    Although Clark v. Arizona relatively recently set a high bar for application my guess is the defense will roll it out pretty quickly.

    Prayers to the families..we are all pulling for you!

  • Patricia_C

    The link oddly takes you to the one I used to find it… MINE!
    Dang

  • halothane

    Paul Krugman is an idiot, and I would be more flabbergasted if anything coming from his blog actually made sense. I’m sure someone, somewhere, actually tracks violent acts by political affiliation, and I’d be willing to put a fair bit of my money up that violent acts by members of the left outnumber those by the right by a fair margin.

    Having minimal insight into this tragic incident, Krugman is already willing to say that he knows exactly why this happened. When the full story comes out, and we find out that this murderer, far from being a calculating right wing operative, is a seriously disturbed man with a long and probably documented history of mental illness,one wonders if Krugman will apologize for jumping the gun, and being an idiot…again.

  • Jeffrey Malbis (malbis)

    A woman who went to school with Jared Loughner is tweeting some interesting things about the shooter:

    (Obvious caveat that there is no way to confirm at this time that she actually does know him, but the following is interesting)

    “I went to high school, college, & was in a band with the gunman. This tragedy has just turned to horrific.”

    “As I knew him he was left wing, quite liberal. & oddly obsessed with the 2012 prophecy.”

    “He was a political radical & met Giffords once before in ’07, asked her a question & he told me she was ‘stupid & unintelligent’”

    “he was a pot head & into rock like Hendrix,The Doors, Anti-Flag. I haven’t seen him in person since ’07 in a sign language class”

    Her latest tweet is that Good Morning America has called her. It’ll be interesting to see if they actually put her on if she actually did know him.

  • chamberD

    . . . for your acknowledgement of my comments.

    Did you move out-of-state?

  • Scope

    and the ones about the Gold standard, or whatever he said, is it possible he was a Ron Paul type supporter? The Tea Party Patriots makeup much of what was the Ron Paul Campaign 4 Liberty crowd. The Tea Party Patriots came out in full support against Giffeords. The Tea Party candidate that ran against Giffords, Jesse Kelly, was a libertarian? at least at one time from what I’m reading. There was also a Libertarian candidate that ran against Giffords, but Kelly almost beat her in the last election.

    No matter what or who he is, he is mentally unbalanced, and they exist across party lines.

  • Patricia_C

    Very strange…

    It’s not the same in appearance as the other (now scrubbed FaceBook page) but it is similar just the same… all the way down to his being a male interested in men,

    The posts made by others on his “wall” are interesting to say the least.

    http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100001943854736#!/profile.php?id=100001943854736&v=info

  • Raven

    The guy who tried to force his way into the Pentagon by shooting at one of the gate guards.

  • Patricia_C

    An effort to make Jared look like a deranged Tea Party member?

  • usadying

    NPR??????? Their so-called news organization should be dismantled. How could you publish something like that without confirmation?

  • http://www.hakubi.us/ Neil Stevens

    The guy’s Youtube account links to a Myspace account, not a Facebook account.

    The Myspace account has been deactivated.

  • melissatx

    NPR was there as well as Loughner;

  • Patricia_C

    Someone IS trying to paint another liberal (Mein Kamph/ Communist Manifesto reading) psyco as a deranged Tea Party member.

    Why am I not surprised… again…?

  • http://www.hakubi.us/ Neil Stevens

    He was more of an atheist anarchist goldbug, not right or left but just nuts.

  • Addison

    Latest information seems to indicate that this person used political thoughts s merely the random bits of lettuce and tomato and Bac-o Bits in his psychotic word salad. If it weren’t the gold standard it’d be FEMA concentration camps or UFOs or lizard people. If this guy was a Tea Party member I’ll be surprised, and if he mentions Sarah Palin I’ll be doubly surprised. But neither would be relevant in any case since a causation implies some level of rational link, and the suspect doesn’t appear to be playing by those rules.

    Society needs an early warning system for 20-something males exhibiting signs of a schizophrenic break — but that’s probably impossible because what gets defined as “insane” thoughts would probably be subject to political pressure of all sorts and we don’t want a revisit of Stalinist punative psychiatry…

  • Patricia_C

    Just another example of the liberal media writing the headlines they WANT to be reality and to hell with who they hurt.

  • Patricia_C

    … is trying to paint Jared as a deranged Tea Party Member…

    But I DO get your point of not having any evidence of Jared’s political leanings… yet.

    In other words, who ever is faking these pages is not letting “a good crisis go to waste”.

  • Marcus_Traianus

    - Does not believe in God
    - Likes burning the American flag
    - Dislikes the police
    - Favorite books Mein Kampf and Communist Manifesto
    - Pretty sure he washed out of the Army in MEPS. I have yet to see anything substantive he was a “veteran”

    Product of the Tea Party? You have to be kidding- right??

  • minister_of_war

    It’s so sad & so scary. We shop at that Safeway & I have a number of friends who work at the bank in the same parking lot. This monster is pure evil. I understand that he may be truly mentally ill, but he needs to pay for his actions in this life & in the next. Justice will be served. And God will serve the ultimate justice.

  • ModernAgeFan

    From what I have seen on you tube this guy was barking insane. Its tragic that he was able to kill and wound so many people before he was stopped. It is even more tragic that there are opportunists who would exploit this tragedy to advance their own agendas. The more things change the more they stay the same.

  • aesthete

    I’m in AZ-08 (Grijalva’s district).

  • the_invisible_hand

    This is a common law tradition dating back to concerns of mens rea in a culprit.

    If, indeed, this killer has deep mental issues that negate his ability to be aware of right and wrong, then he should be in a mental facility.

    Contrary to pop culture views, being committed as criminally insane is not a slap on the wrist or preferable to being incarcerated.

  • http://www.hakubi.us/ Neil Stevens

    … and they aren’t what anybody is saying.

    The guy’s a nut, he’s not part of the mainstream right or left.

  • http://westforwestwing2012.com heartlander

    …for your comments, which are sane and good and true, at once down-to-earth and profound.

    I am grateful that you are the face and the voice for so many of us. We couldn’t ask for a better representative.

  • redneck_hippie

    Per an Army officer quoted on ABC radio news.

  • http://westforwestwing2012.com heartlander

    …wondering if this had anything to do with the narco-lords.

    Sounds like no, that the murderer is just a lone psychotic.

  • http://www.thejoyofreason.com Greg Garrison

    …it’s a mistake to personalize the political and politicize the personal. While ideology obviously influences a sane individual’s actions and general behavior, Neil is right on: This guy is crazy, and that’s why he murdered today, not his politics.

    We won’t do conservatism or the GOP any favors by talking like the opposition.

  • Jim Tomasik

    Someone pointed out this to me.

    http://twitter.com/caitieparker

    I can’t tell but it looks real to me.

  • throwback59

    the air. Even the reporter was a bit stunned by his comments.

  • Scope

    She doesn’t have any children. Just goes to show the misinformation alleyway that even some Republicans buy into. I pray for Mrs. Giffords full recovery, but, we need to watch the next 24 hours, as her surgeon said. I pray she has a full recovery, and, is back in the House very soon. Please get the facts straight guys.

  • http://www.hakubi.us/ Neil Stevens

    Maybe she knew him, maybe she didn’t.

    My point of reference on this guy is his Youtube account, complete with suicidal video.

  • aesthete

    that we feel the need to attach this sort of insanity and hatred to an ideology. There are no winners here, political or otherwise: this guy was just unhinged and ready to break. He could have been set off by anything from the color of a cereal box to Edgar Allen Poe: it just so happened that he was set off by fringe politics (which aren’t libertarian, but which I won’t comment on besides that out of respect).

  • aesthete

    “No matter what or who he is, he is mentally unbalanced, and they exist across party lines.”

    A sane person of any political stripe acting in his right mind wouldn’t have written what he wrote, or indiscriminately killed a nine-year old and God knows how many people

    It’s simply disgusting that many feel the need to turn this into yet another event of political gamesmanship: as if the natural result of conservatism was deranged lunatics shooting random people.

  • aesthete

    I shop at that Safeway from time to time, as well, so it took me aback as well.

  • runner12

    with the Pima County sheriff? He is all but blaming talk radio for “influencing” a mentally ill person. This is unbelievable. He is turning this tragedy into a political opportunity on live television. Sick.

  • runner12

    with the Pima County sheriff? He is all but blaming talk radio for “influencing” a mentally ill person. This is unbelievable. He is turning this tragedy into a political opportunity on live television. Sick.

  • Doc Holliday

    sooner the FBI takes over the better. He is doing all this speculating about the “tone” of the political debate in this country.

  • carolina
  • carolina
  • Patricia_C

    http://twitter.com/kgun9/status/23898701407723521#

  • http://908StraightSt.wordpress.com/ mbecker908
  • carolina

    All that talk about bigots and vitriol…….. no wonder he’s received threats too.

  • runner12

    unprofessional and is not up- to-date with the facts.

  • runner12

    unprofessional and is not up- to-date with the facts.

  • Doc Holliday

    most Democrat Sheriffs are not. He called Arizona the “Mecca for bigotry and prejudice”

  • runner12

    Imagine that. Good grief! He just blamed talk radio AGAIN and claimed that they are responsible for this violent act. He should be ashamed of himself and should be removed from office.

    This is not a professional way to act in the midst of a tragedy. He is quite a poor reflection of the Democratic Party.

  • runner12

    Imagine that. Good grief! He just blamed talk radio AGAIN and claimed that they are responsible for this violent act. He should be ashamed of himself and should be removed from office.

    This is not a professional way to act in the midst of a tragedy. He is quite a poor reflection of the Democratic Party.

  • JadedByPolitics
  • JadedByPolitics

    WE will have to work very hard to STOP this political poisoning of the Conservative Movement by the media and Democrats. This day people died and a Congresswoman is fighting for her life and they fighting to destroy us!

  • Doc Holliday

    it is shameful. Some will do ANYTHING to to score political points and demonize law abiding citizens. We will be forced to defend our rights if what I think the hard left and drive by media has planned.

    My prayers are with the dead and wounded, and their loved ones.

  • smagar

    Clarence Dupnik isn’t going anywhere.

  • smagar
  • avgjo

    blames talk radio and ‘bigotry’ for this.

    Another article on this:

    http://www.huliq.com/10061/az-congresswoman-giffords-shooting-update-hate-speech-blamed

    disgusting to politicize this.

  • runner12

    It is such a tragedy that people are throwing political jabs, some abusing their position of authority to do so.

    I don’t believe politics had anything to do with this from what I have heard. The person who committed this horrible act appears to be mentally ill. His ramblings make no sense at all.

    It just breaks my heart to hear of the loss that occurred today and angry that someone would target a US Representative like this. What a sad day.

  • runner12

    It is such a tragedy that people are throwing political jabs, some abusing their position of authority to do so.

    I don’t believe politics had anything to do with this from what I have heard. The person who committed this horrible act appears to be mentally ill. His ramblings make no sense at all.

    It just breaks my heart to hear of the loss that occurred today and angry that someone would target a US Representative like this. What a sad day.

  • runner12

    IE is giving me fits today.

  • runner12

    IE is giving me fits today.

  • gekster

    That usually works for me.

    And after hitting reply, wait a day or two for it to load.
    LOL

  • smagar

    It will be interesting to see:

    1. How the national media handles him. If, like most MSMers, they dislike conservative talk radio, let’s see what questions they DON’T ask him. If they throw him softballs, that allow him to dance away from the comments he made tonight (or at least not get pinned down on them)…well, that will just confirm what we already suspect about the MSM.

    2. What interviews the sherriff declines. It wouldn’t surprise me if reporters who would press Dupnik to really clarify his comments (e.g., Greta Van Susteren), can’t get interviews with him this week. But, don’t be surprised if Anderson Cooper and Morning Joe have him on the air Monday morning.

  • http://908StraightSt.wordpress.com/ mbecker908

    Sheriff Joe would be spouting drivel on the other side of the political spectrum.

  • alvin691

    And now it is up to you to realize why it didn’t. I would start with Sherrif Joe’s jail system, and that the shooter had been arrested before.

  • Mike Ferguson

    These people deserve our thanks and to be recognized for their heroism. If there were really bullets left in the suspects gun then they saved lives period. Their actions are the definition of “Hero”

    Mike

  • alvin691

    for this kind of thought and activity. This kid was a dope-smoking hippie that was arrested before, but not prosecuted in leu of a “program”. Maybe some real time could have straightened him out.

  • gekster

  • chamberD

    ugh

  • http://908StraightSt.wordpress.com/ mbecker908

    Maricopa County. Or the Sheriff’s Department for that matter.

    Maricopa County has a much higher crime rate than Pima County and it’s going up in MC and down in PC.

    And, you completely missed the point, which was a Democrat Sheriff was making D-talking points in his presser, a Republican Sheriff 90 miles away would not only be doing the same thing, he’d likely be much further over the top.

  • Doc Holliday

    where I live we have a Democrat Sheriff and he is professional, he focuses on crime, not politics.

  • kestrel

    about the nine-year-old girl, but pray for all.

  • http://www.redstate.com/tnjim TNJim
  • kestrel

    this particular bundle of 1′s and 0′s. I didn’t know you were back, Doc. I’m glad you are. Hello to your folks, too, and I hope they’re as comfortable as possible for their situation. Please tell them I appreciate their offsprung collection of 1′s and 0′s. Thanks.

  • http://908StraightSt.wordpress.com/ mbecker908

    And the heck of it is, both will probably die of old age still in office and both will likely serve two more terms after death. And neither of them is going anywhere, NOBODY from Tucson will get elected Governor in this lifetime and Joe as turned down the opportunity to run several times. Plus, he’s older than I am. A lot older.

    But politics rule with AZ county sheriffs. I wonder sometimes if Joe drives it and the rest just react because he pisses them off.

  • http://rightthemes.com rightthemes

    As the Left will predictably use this tragedy to attempt to stifle free speech and attack conservative radio, tv and Internet as ‘vitriol’ and ‘overheated rhetoric’, etc, it will be very important to point out that no less than the current President of the United States repeatedly uses language of vitriol and war; with talk of the opposing side as ‘hostage takers’, ‘the enemy’, etc, he has been absolutely the worse offender and we should hold his feet to the fire as well as the MSM as they attempt to spin this for their political advantage.

    This has been an utter horror and tragedy, but we must not give any quarter in this struggle; modern politics is warfare of communication and there is too much at stake to let this event sway us from our goal of defeating the Left. We can not allow them a fee pass on any lies or misinformation that they will attempt.

    (No to mention that initial indications that this individual listed the Communist Manifesto and Mein Kampf among his favorite books – full on far -Leftist if there ever was one. )

    And let me state that my prayers are with the families of the victims this evening….

  • jstjoan

    the changes our elected officials make in handling their public appearances. I hope there is not an over reaction but I certainly don’t blame them for being concerned for their own safety after this horrible tragedy.

    Are things getting so heated that it’s time to consider extra security for Congressional Rep’s and Senators? Should they take some of that 5% they voted out of their own budgets and put it toward Secret Service protection? I think I’d support that expense to ensure our government functions properly.

    My heart aches and my prayers will continue for all the victims and families that suffered today.

  • lineholder

    Wonder if that is a reference to the Mayan 2012 prophecy.

    A lot of Gaia-worshippers put heavy stock in that prophecy. Some of them are so obsessed with it that they could easily become dangerous.

  • Superheater

    Unfortunately, the left is using this tragedy to score political points.

    Its not unfortunate, its inevitable.

    Clinton with McVeigh, Bloomberg with the Times Square Bomber.

    I’m still waiting to hear how John Wilkes Booth and Lynette “Squeaky” Fromme (spelling?) were Tea Party members.

  • Superheater

    something about if they bring a knife, we bring a gun.

  • gekster

    Thay say that the Mayans predicted the end of the world because thier calender only went to 12/21/2012, or something like that.
    Did anyone ever think that maybe there wasn’t anyone around to make the 2013 calender?
    How many times do yo get a calender going past the present year.
    They did just up and disapeared suddenly.
    OK, threadjack over.

  • usadying

    And that will further insulate the political elites from their constituents.

  • usadying

    And that will further insulate the political elites from their constituents.

  • http://pocketchangeproductions.net/ anotherindyfilmguy

    My gut instinct is that at the end of the day for this he’ll turn out to be a seriously mentally deranged person who would have likely shot anyone coming out for an easily accessed local event on the day he chose to go kill someone. Like the guy who flew his plane into an IRS building the media will probably find that the whole real story doesn’t fit the template they tried to force onto the event. Then the media will drop the story like a hot potato.

    Sadly many people get shut out or shut off from society and it doesn’t always take a long time to take the trip down the conspiracy/truther rabbit hole of redefining reality to fit this person seems to have walked himself into.

    That some will exploit this tragedy for partisan political points is actually a total disgrace in their part that should warrant their removal from office, such as the Sheriff in question and others who are rushing to blame political enemies. But that’s just my opinion.

  • Doc Holliday

    good memory bud :) Thanks for the kind words, I will tell them. They won’t get the 1′s and 0′s part though.

  • Doc Holliday

    even back to the heyday of Tombstone. The town marshal was Repuplican and the county sheriff Democrat. The two town papers were Republican (Epitaph), and Democrat (Nugget), and they were partisan on everything, including shootings.

  • uselogic

    But I sure expedted it. Some female Dem talking head on CNN earlier this eve repeated the lie that during the healthcare takeover debate, “MANY Democratic legislators had their offices and homes vandalized.” Went on to imply violence is all from the Right. Low-life weasels turn a tragedy into talking points they can spread to “bright” folks like Kristie Brown Kelly.

  • redneck_hippie

    Redstate wasn’t the same without you. Hope your loved ones are getting along ok.

  • minister_of_war

    …but then he refuses to give us any information about who that person is. The irresponsible sheriff tells us nothing about the 2nd person of interest to help those of us who live in the community to have some semblance of comfort in knowing that a 2nd psychopath isn’t out there ready to begin a 2nd rampage.

    How dare Dupnik mention another person & not give us some kind of info about that person. Like I said above, my wife & I live one block away from this massacre.

    Then on top of that, our stupid sheriff says that Arizona has now become America’s capital of bigotry. From what I can tell, the moron Dupnik has no evidence to show that this tragedy had anything to do with bigotry. He needs to shut up & get back to doing his job. Good thing that the terrorist gunman is now in FBI custody so that Dupnik can’t be the one making sure that he remains behind bars.

  • minister_of_war

    … today he opened his mouth once again to remove all doubt.

  • minister_of_war

    They had her devastated dad talking by phone on the local news about her.

    Her father mentioned that the poor girl was actually born on 9/11. He mentioned how she was born on the day of one tragedy & died on another. He said that there were four members of his small family & now there are only 3. It was so very sad.

  • http://908StraightSt.wordpress.com/ mbecker908

    He’s been the Sheriff since 1980. First appointed in 1980 and reelected 7 times. He’s not the least bit out of the mainstream in Tucson…

  • Doc Holliday

    we are doing the best we can. I owe them more than I can ever give them, but I am trying to give them a lot.

  • jacksonandy78

    BEFORE TODAY WAS A DIFFERENT WORLD!

    Change to REMOVE the UNFAIRNESS must now come or far worse than today will be coming along.

  • Doc Holliday

    nt

  • warkarma

    The strength, spirit, and will to pull through this.

    May He guide the actions of her doctors and nurses caring for Gabrielle, and help them act to the best of their professional abilities.

    May His kindness and love be with Gabrielle’s family during this trying time.

    May He grant eternal peace to those we’ve lost today.

    Amen.

    There is no right or left in this as far as I’m concerned. This is awful and downright heartbreaking, and I hope she pulls through. Hug your family and be grateful – heaven forbid, it can disappear that quickly.

  • Jack_Savage

    From today’s report on Fox News by Jana Winter:

    “Loughner was kicked out of Pima Community College following a series of run-ins with school officials and police at the colleges where he frequently caused disruptions in classrooms and elsewhere on campus, according to The Arizona Republic.

    The tensions with school officials led to Loughner’s production of a YouTube video in which he declared the college illegal, the newspaper reports.

    The college said Loughner could only return if he received mental-health clearance, according to The Arizona Republic.”

    This is a Virginia Tech / Wendell Williamson (UNC Chapel Hill) type situation. Period. Authorities knew who he was, and knew what he could do, but could not pre-emptively arrest him.

  • runner12

    Is there a place where people can send well-wishes and notes of encouragment for her and the others recovery?

  • runner12

    Is there a place where people can send well-wishes and notes of encouragment for her and the others recovery?

  • jacksonandy78

    Equal opportunity under the LAW or the country can not survive.

  • minister_of_war

    … and too often like other local politicians everywhere, the guy seems to get reelected each time only because nobody is paying any attention & his party affiliation happens to be the same as the majority of county voters.

    That said, he’s now a national disgrace & everybody now knows it since it’s been so public. He has worked his hardest to ruin the case against the shooter, while at the same time attempting to scare the general public into panic & mocking his voters at the same time. As Moe Lane noted, Dupnik will not win reelection again.

    But he really ought to just step down & resign from his office after his irresponsible behavior.