never has been, and may never be. He proudly talks about his strongly held social views/christian values and how he feels the many social issues can be fixed. It is only in your mind and self rationalizing that he is a fiscal only conservative or a fiscal first conservative. The reality is, he is a man who believes equally in both social conservatism and fiscal conservatism and puts neither above the other.

Personally, after reading your posts with writeblock, would have expected you to be a fan of someone along the lines of Rudy or Romney, not Cain. Glad you like him and glad you support him, but surprising all things considered.

you must be correct. I grew way too tired of this rhetoric and nonsense with writeblock, so not going to start up with you. So I am simply going to say this:

Cain is not fiscal first by any stretch of the imagination. You can say it a thousand time and click your heels three times and it is not going to change the fact he has put his christian and social views at the forefront of this life and possible campaign. But keep on clicking those heels, maybe that will change.

Never said fiscal conservatives are not or can not be social conservatives in theory. Never said they can not hold strong views on social issues, so that nonsense holds no water. But as to the last part of your comment, again clicking heels does not make things so. We have not had a true social conservative in office in quite some time, so not sure where you think “we” have gotten us anywhere. And please do not name Bush, he was about as strong a social conservative as Joe Lieberman is.

In fact, if you want to lay blame on someone for where we are, you must look at the many in Congress who have little to no social value. It is fiscal issues and experts that have crashed this country, not us “evil” socons. If you are going to put blame anywhere, put it on the vast majority of so called republicans who were no socons who have been running this country for the last 20 years.

And no, did not see anything your wrote where you lay claim that it is fiscal conservatives who have pushed pro life people into power. Had I seen an article like that, I would have told you to stop drinking and making up facts. Even without any real numbers, the reality is someone who does not hold social views as a priority will not push them in congress. A person who avoids making such an important issue a major part of their campaign rhetoric will not make it any kind of priority in congress or the white house.

Fiscal conservatives who do not push or hold social views are a small minority in this party. They do not have the ability to push anything without us carrying the weight.