Saxby Chambliss (R-GA) Says Senate Republicans Will Support Tax Increases


A few weeks ago, I reported that the Senate Republicans’ point man on dealing with the deficit, Saxby Chambliss (R-GA), said he’d support tax increases as a means to reduce the deficit. Chambliss promptly denied it.

Yesterday, in the New York Times, Chambliss admitted he and the Senate Republicans will support tax increases to pay off the deficit.

Mr. Chambliss has been increasingly outspoken in arguing that additional revenues must be part of a debt-reduction plan, given the scale of the problem.

“I’m taking arrows from some on the far right,” he told the Rotary Club of Atlanta in an appearance with Mr. Warner on Monday. “Are some people going to pay more in taxes? You bet.”

Mitch McConnell put Chambliss in charge of the issue for the Republicans. He is their point man.

You can see now what is taking shape as we head toward the fight over the debt ceiling. Senate Republicans will agree not just to ending all deductions and credits in the tax code and lowering the tax rate while expanding the base — a step I support. The Senate Republicans will support higher taxes too.

Chambliss has already attacked Paul Ryan‘s “Path to Prosperity” because, in Chambliss’s words, Ryan is able to balance the budget without cutting defense spending.

Senate Republicans are going to support raising the debt ceiling and raising taxes all while refusing to demand passage of a Balanced Budget Amendment. House Republican Leaders will no doubt decide that . . . well . . . Republicans only control one house of one branch of government so . . . .

Bend over America.

By the way, his “arrows from the far right” is code for me. Seriously. Following that we have this:

Perhaps more troublesome for Mr. Chambliss have been critics at home like Erick Erickson, a conservative blogger, Atlanta radio talk-show host and CNN contributor. “Is Saxby Chambliss Becoming a Democrat?” Mr. Erickson asked in a recent blog post.

Note that neither Chambliss, nor the Democrats, are taking serious fire from the left. It’s just conservatives who Chambliss is happy to take “arrows” from.


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Tax increases?

conservative_dan Monday, April 18th at 5:09AM EDT (link)

LOL!! We’re gonna have tax CUTS!!!!!

We are being snookered

badrmaine Monday, April 18th at 9:30AM EDT (link)

We are being snookered by the very people that we elected as “CONCERVATIVES”. This has always been the problem of the republican party. We really don’t know who we are electing. During election, these people swear up and down that they are “CONSERVATIVE”. But when the rubber meets the road, and they have to vote for conservative beliefs, they are rolled by the opposition like a roll of toilet paper.

 

"Death Wish II"

Flagstaff (Diary) Monday, April 18th at 2:44PM EDT (link)

Now starring the Republican Party.

Is that too uncivil?

Buffett Rule #1: “Tax rates don’t matter if you don’t pay your taxes”
– Unnamed tax adviser to Warren Buffett, Leavenworth, KS, 2011
Buffett Rule #2: “A parrot in every pot and two Volts in every garage”– Jimmy Buffett, at a seance in Margaritaville, 1977

 

I was laughing too, until...

edniceville Monday, April 18th at 9:03PM EDT (link)

I opened the letter from the military finance center. It seems, that, in spite of the “continuation of the BUSH TAX CUTS”, my wife and I each received a tax hike in our military retirement checks. I am sure every single military retiree did as well. Yet, the administration continues to rail about helping the “little guy”! This whole game is just that, a GAME to them, and we are the suckers who will end up paying for it! There is not a “leader” in either party!

“Everyone is entitled to his own opinion, but not his own facts.” – Daniel Patrick Moynihan

 
 

No Difference

gumbeaux Monday, April 18th at 5:23AM EDT (link)

The only difference between the Demosocialists and their enablers, aka the Republican Party, is the D or the R after their names. All they want to do is TAX AND SPEND. They want to go with raising the Debt Ceiling and before you can say Baloney, it will all be spent on another Demosocialist program and we will have just that much more debt. Then the RAISE TAXES drum will be beaten and the Rs will roll over again and vote for it. We need to get rid of the current leadership in the House and Senate and put some people in their place who will Git R Done!

Election

hendrig Monday, April 18th at 8:57AM EDT (link)

Reelect no one. Fire them all.

No! Use your head for more than a hat rack

MF (Diary) Monday, April 18th at 11:47AM EDT (link)

Would you want to fire Michele Bachmann? There are some who really are conservative, instead of CINOs. Separate the wheat from the chaff by their voting records, not their rhetoric. Of course we just can’t tell what we get with the replacements, either.

 

No! Use your head for more than a hat rack

MF (Diary) Monday, April 18th at 11:47AM EDT (link)

Would you want to fire Michele Bachmann? There are some who really are conservative, instead of CINOs. Separate the wheat from the chaff by their voting records, not their rhetoric. Of course we just can’t tell what we get with the replacements, either.

Exactly - be smart where you choose your fights

YnotNOW (Diary) Monday, April 18th at 1:21PM EDT (link)

And target those races (both primary and General Election), where we can make real inroads. Trying to fight on all fronts is a recipe for defeat.

YnotNOW
If not me, who? If not now, when?

 

Exactly - be smart where you choose your fights

YnotNOW (Diary) Monday, April 18th at 1:21PM EDT (link)

And target those races (both primary and General Election), where we can make real inroads. Trying to fight on all fronts is a recipe for defeat.

YnotNOW
If not me, who? If not now, when?

 
 
 
 

I'm all for increased revenues as well.

Diogenes314 (Diary) Monday, April 18th at 6:04AM EDT (link)

Of course that means cutting the rates and eliminating deductions-which according to Grover Norquist equals “raising taxes”.

Eliminating deductions is ONLY acceptable when paired with RATE reductions

YnotNOW (Diary) Monday, April 18th at 1:25PM EDT (link)

And should be planned in a “deficit neutral” revenue projection. Of course, when you actually reduce rates, and minimize the economic distortions of deductions and credits, you actually spur economic growth which raises tax revenues (a little bit soon, and much more so in longer term). Grover Norquist’s absolutist approach allows for no reform, and reform is so desperately needed.

Of course, we must make absolutely certain that democrats don’t try to reduce deductions, without the balance of rate reductions, because that would be an absolute tax increase, which is bad for the economy.

YnotNOW
If not me, who? If not now, when?

Which is precisely what Ryan and Coburn and Chambliss support.NT

Diogenes314 (Diary) Monday, April 18th at 4:29PM EDT (link)
 

Eliminating deductions is ONLY acceptable when paired with RATE reductions

YnotNOW (Diary) Monday, April 18th at 1:25PM EDT (link)

And should be planned in a “deficit neutral” revenue projection. Of course, when you actually reduce rates, and minimize the economic distortions of deductions and credits, you actually spur economic growth which raises tax revenues (a little bit soon, and much more so in longer term). Grover Norquist’s absolutist approach allows for no reform, and reform is so desperately needed.

Of course, we must make absolutely certain that democrats don’t try to reduce deductions, without the balance of rate reductions, because that would be an absolute tax increase, which is bad for the economy.

YnotNOW
If not me, who? If not now, when?

 
 

Common sense?

checkinout6000 Monday, April 18th at 6:23AM EDT (link)

So what is so terribly wrong with just cutting spending on these stupid socialist communistic left wing spending programs? You can’t tax everyone into the ground. No one can take any more taxes. What is so hard to figure out here? Why do these dinks think there is a tea party movement or do they think they will just raise taxes and it will go away?

You can’t tax everyone into the ground.

edintexas Monday, April 18th at 7:45AM EDT (link)

They aren’t currently taxing “everyone”, and I’m sure they have no plans to tax everyone. Almost half of all US households (47% for 2009 Taxes) pay no Federal Income Tax, and I’m positive they don’t plan to change that – except perhaps to make sure the percentage goes safely over 50% to ensure a dependent class.

I’ll bet (and I don’t gamble) Chambliss, et al, have no plans to even attempt to eliminate the Tax Code welfare payments to people who owe no taxes (AKA “Tax Refunds” to those with no tax liability).

read it again

checkinout6000 Monday, April 18th at 8:13AM EDT (link)

I didnt say anything about federal income tax. I talking about all the crazy taxes that everyone must pay. You can hardly breath anymore without paying tax. If you think federal income tax is the only “revenue enhancer” they have on the table then you had better set your alarm clock and wake up.

 
 
 

Chambliss needs a “slap in the back of the head, a hard one!”)

paul427 Monday, April 18th at 6:53AM EDT (link)

Sometimes people just don’t get it. Either they are recalcitrant, just plain stupid, mentally challenged, or experiencing some other condition which just crushes their ability to use proper discretion. How dare Uncle Chambliss act so stupidly in light of the tortured economy and the mounting gasoline cost! Is he aiming for a full-blown depression (despite Uncle Communist’s assertions that we are surging in prosperity…please quiet down oh naked emperor!) Why is it that someone has to spell out for him something so basic?

Hey man who would impersonate Bozo in his day job: CUT THE TAXES, drill for oil, cut entitlements, ban planned parenthood if they don’t raise their own funds, oppose the clueless Dems, and stop worrying about the true patriots from the “far right” (Do you even know of what the “far right” consists?) Did you learn nothing from the Tea Party movement? You are already being compensated too well for the job you are failing to do properly, and I suggest you get real solutions instead of focusing on how to work with the clueless Dems who prefer to live in denial across the aisle. That’s what Uncle Obama stresses is most important as he destroys the economy and prints more cash to support his lame programs of entitlement. Is there a chance that any time soon you’ll realize he doesn’t seem to know anything about economics in a democratic republic? If you cannot afford these programs, you just have to cut them. Prior generations never relied on them. The Founding Fathers didn’t have them either. Remember what Stockman was forced to do under Reagan. It didn’t hurt the way the world remembers the Gipper either. How about planning for a personal legacy of respect instead of derision, which you seem like you are tracking for (cluelessly) with open arms!

Eliminate all subsidies as well.

Flagstaff (Diary) Monday, April 18th at 2:59PM EDT (link)

I didn’t see that in there.

Both Ryan’s Path and the “reduction panel’s” plan combine tax rate reduction, tax deductions, and elimination of subsidies (I believe) to create a fairer, flatter tax system.

Eliminate all programs that are new since 2008.

Go back to the 2008 budget.

I have heard different stories about how many bodies have been added to the federal payroll since the O Man entered office, but the idea of reduction by attrition is the MINIMUM that should be done.

And for those who insist we can’t get along without NPR, PBS, NEA, and NEH, the next question is, What else should we eliminate in order to keep them? They are taking money that could fill other needs.

Buffett Rule #1: “Tax rates don’t matter if you don’t pay your taxes”
– Unnamed tax adviser to Warren Buffett, Leavenworth, KS, 2011
Buffett Rule #2: “A parrot in every pot and two Volts in every garage”– Jimmy Buffett, at a seance in Margaritaville, 1977

 
 

As a Georgian,

radicalrighty Monday, April 18th at 7:11AM EDT (link)

I hope Saxby finds out just how many of us there are on the “far right” in his next primary.

There’s a “Rubio” somewhere in Georgia waiting to emerge.

Hear! Hear!

jiminga Monday, April 18th at 7:20AM EDT (link)

Saxby is and always has been a RINO and needs to be primaried. Too bad he didn’t run in 2010.

Run Saxby, run!

checkinout6000 Monday, April 18th at 8:16AM EDT (link)

You can bet if he is successful with this he had better run and run very far.

 

And too bad he's not up until 2014

6eorge Jetson (Diary) Monday, April 18th at 9:05AM EDT (link)

But he’s going down then.

Another @!$^# maverick.


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Agreed, but for maybe different reasons

leftylurker (Diary) Monday, April 18th at 2:24PM EDT (link)

I can’t stand Chambliss, but not for this.

I just got so disgusted when he ran ads in 2002 attacking Max Cleland’s patriotism. I grew up in Suwanee, and Max was nothing but a decent man. Attacking him for not giving enough to his country was so over the line.

 
 

As a Georgian,

radicalrighty Monday, April 18th at 7:11AM EDT (link)

I hope Saxby finds out just how many of us there are on the “far right” in his next primary.

There’s a “Rubio” somewhere in Georgia waiting to emerge.

 

TEA is an acronymn

marc1949 Monday, April 18th at 7:11AM EDT (link)

I do suspect that Sen. Chambliss has lost his mental faculties and requires intense medical treatment for the rest of his term.
The term TEA in “Tea Party” refers to “Taxes Enough Already”, Senator. Ergo there WILL be NO tax increases. Do you hear me now?

That said, my humble but accurate opinion is that it is time for a Recall Vote for every former Republican who has obviously lost their mind. Upon completion of these extractions from Congress, continuing treatment under the “wise and tender ministrations” of NObama-care may help these former “servants of the people” find their lost minds or at least put them out of our misery.

And if no suitable Tea Party candidate can be found to replace these wimps, my I recommend that we Cut the salaries of every recalled Senator or Congressperson to save the expense of paying someone for the non-service we’ve been getting of late.

 

Saxby ...

cam1 Monday, April 18th at 7:29AM EDT (link)

has been and enemy to conservatism and an ally to his own power and wealth. He is an enemy to all Georgians and must never be re-elected to represent our state Senate. Same goes for Isakson.

 

This jerk has to take off

popster Monday, April 18th at 7:35AM EDT (link)

his earphones and pay attention to what happened in 11/2010. RINO is too soft a description for Dumbo, progressive is a better one. It is greedy, arrogant politicians like this that have, and are continuing to screw this Country into bankruptcy.
Come 2012, he is going to wonder what happened to his cushy job.

 

Just wait...

imperfectamerica (Diary) Monday, April 18th at 7:54AM EDT (link)

He no doubt thinks that voters in Georgia will have forgotten about his not so Democrat-lite stylings by 2014… I don’t think so.

 

"Chambliss admitted he and the Senate Republicans will support tax increases"

radicalrighty Monday, April 18th at 8:17AM EDT (link)

Those boys better go spend a little time in their states, or actually read their e-mails before voting like that . . .

Repeating a lie in multiple threads won't make it so.

Diogenes314 (Diary) Monday, April 18th at 11:50AM EDT (link)

What Chambliss actually said…

And Mr. Chambliss has been increasingly outspoken in arguing that additional revenues must be part of a debt-reduction plan, given the scale of the problem.

“I’m taking arrows from some on the far right,” he told the Rotary Club of Atlanta in an appearance with Mr. Warner on Monday. “Are some people going to pay more in taxes? You bet.”

A bolt came in February from Grover Norquist, a Republican antitax activist, who wrote to Mr. Chambliss, Mr. Coburn and Mr. Crapo to say they would violate his group’s “Taxpayer Protection Pledge” if they supported raising revenues for deficit reduction.”

I hate to break the news, but just because a hack lobbyist like Grover wants to call eliminating deductions a ‘tax increase’ doesn’t make it so. Chambliss and company are still calling for lower tax rates across the board last time I heard.

As far as ‘some people paying higher taxes’-some people don’t pay any now.

I will believe it when I see it

YnotNOW (Diary) Monday, April 18th at 1:37PM EDT (link)

Our fear is that too many Republicans, Chambliss included, will roll over in the spirit of “compromise” and raise taxes (in an absolute sense, by whatever method), in order to secure a minimial amount of spending reductions.

Meanwhile, we’ll keep sending those “arrows” from the Right.

YnotNOW
If not me, who? If not now, when?

 

I will believe it when I see it

YnotNOW (Diary) Monday, April 18th at 1:37PM EDT (link)

Our fear is that too many Republicans, Chambliss included, will roll over in the spirit of “compromise” and raise taxes (in an absolute sense, by whatever method), in order to secure a minimial amount of spending reductions.

Meanwhile, we’ll keep sending those “arrows” from the Right.

YnotNOW
If not me, who? If not now, when?

A real problem with "tax increases,"

Flagstaff (Diary) Monday, April 18th at 3:13PM EDT (link)

even when we mean “revenue increases,” is that both Congress and every administration seem Hell-bent on spending $1.70 for every extra $1.00 that comes in. The only way to reduce the size of government permanently is to reduce it’s “stash.” That isn’t accomplished by increasing the amount of tax revenue.

As an attack on the debt burden, I don’t have a problem with additional tax revenues coming in if they’re the result of tax RATE reductions and they aren’t used for new programs, or any programs for that matter.

Still, we’ve reached the point from which we can’t tax our way out. IT’S A SPENDING PROBLEM, SAXBY.

Buffett Rule #1: “Tax rates don’t matter if you don’t pay your taxes”
– Unnamed tax adviser to Warren Buffett, Leavenworth, KS, 2011
Buffett Rule #2: “A parrot in every pot and two Volts in every garage”– Jimmy Buffett, at a seance in Margaritaville, 1977

 

I will believe it when I see it as well.

Diogenes314 (Diary) Monday, April 18th at 4:36PM EDT (link)

Namely, any type of evidence that Chambliss, let alone the GOP in general has a master plan to hike tax rates. This is about the third diary attacking him personally using out of context quotes and cute ‘interpretations’. I realize some here prefer knifing the GOP in the back to taking on the Dems, but at least have the decency to try doing it honestly.

 
 
 
 

Tea anybody?

poorman2011 Monday, April 18th at 8:30AM EDT (link)

As a lifelong supporter of conservative values, I am appalled by the current Republican party, there are recently elected conservative people who uphold the value system I have,small Government,low taxes,Pro life,War only as last resort,and protecting Americans from enemies foreign or domestic. As a people we must decide if we want to bow,lean forward at the altar of this god Government or root out those who easily fit the description of domestic enemies of the America I love and am willing to fight to protect, I am not a Tea party member but they have started a process of cleansing the government of freedoms enemies. For that they have my respect and thanks.

 

no raising the debt limit and no more tax hikes

sowa1 Monday, April 18th at 8:31AM EDT (link)

anyone who votes for it will be replaced if they are up for re-election.

 

people are saying

4suramcan Monday, April 18th at 8:49AM EDT (link)

do this, do that, And some of these things will really be a good start. But we’re not going to see this congress fix anything thats good for America. Why, because they have sold us out, long ago. One solution. Kick them all out and start over. When they have taken all our guns, there will be no recourse ‘cept to do what they tell you.

 

Tea Partiers Should Not Caucus With Republicans

1689 Monday, April 18th at 8:52AM EDT (link)

Establishment Republicans, the ones who actually lead the party, are in reality no different from Democrats. This is stupid having your principles laughed at behind closed doors time and time again (Boehner, now the Senate). You were elected to make stop spending, stop Obama – period. What Chambliss and the RINOs are proposing is the same old crap. The philosophy of Bush the Elder (remember the broken “read-my-lips-no-new-taxes campaign pledge) still grips the northeast & establishment RINOs. Tea partiers – separate yourselves from the Republicans. Start your own political party in the 50 states.

1689, calling for a Third Party is not the answer.

yoyo (Diary) Monday, April 18th at 9:54AM EDT (link)

Calling for a third party is as useful as placing a badger in a bag and swinging around in circles over your head. It will do NOTHING except to ensure that the Left becomes firmly entrenched and brings the USA to Post-Soviet Economic State status.

Is that what you want? If so, I hear both Georgia and Lithuania are hiring.

Nemo me impune lacesset
“No one will provoke me with impunity!”
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Pukin’ Dogs – The Fighting 143
Sans Reproache
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The ‘yoyo’ replaced my cigarettes January 22, 2006….

 

heads up

streiff (Diary) Monday, April 18th at 10:19AM EDT (link)

Third party advocacy = banned. Keep that in mind if you want to continue posting here.

“What keeps me here is the reek of beer, the ladies and the craic”

Apologies

1689 Tuesday, April 19th at 1:05AM EDT (link)

Sorry, didn’t know. Will comply with rules.

If you want to know about the "real" 3rd Party, read Cold Warrior and...

audax (Diary) Tuesday, April 19th at 4:53AM EDT (link)

…he will tell you how to do it! Become a Precinct Committeeman/Delegate and “take over” the GOP!

Audeamus pro audere est facere

 
 
 
 

I suspect that the reason McConnell chose Saxby

romeg Monday, April 18th at 8:55AM EDT (link)

and the reason Saxby accepted is that he (Saxby) is contemplating spending more time with his family after this term is up. If these Six Sick Senators come to terms and can get the House to go along, there is no question that Obama will sign it into law.

Paul Ryan likes to say that he is handing the Democrats a weapon by taking on reforms in “Entitlements”. But seeking to raise taxes the Unholy Trinity of RINO’s in the Senate is handing them a much more lethal weapon just as GHWB did in 1992 when he broke his pledge of “Read My lips; No new Taxes”.

As Ryan likes to say. “The government doesn’t have revenue problem. It has a SPENDING problem.” Until we can populate the Senate with conservatives that get that message and decided to truly engage in “Shared Sacrifice” that includes the looters and moochers paying THEIR share, then instead of things getting better, they will only get worse

“Of all tyrannies a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victim may be the most oppressive. It may be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron’s cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated, but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end for they do so with the approval of their own conscience.” – C. S. Lewis

 

Tick, tock (nt)

mspector (Diary) Monday, April 18th at 8:59AM EDT (link)

“Government, even in its best state, is but a necessary evil; in its worst state, an intolerable one.” (Thomas Paine)

“A friend of mine was asked to a costume ball a short time ago. He slapped some egg on his face and went as a liberal economist.” (Ronald Reagan)

 

Why is everyone focusing on Saxby...by making him their front man...isn't the whole Republican Senate Caucus telling us to shove it?

AceInTX (Diary) Monday, April 18th at 9:32AM EDT (link)

If he’s their “Front Man” isn’t he speaking for Mitch McConnell and his band of merry men when he spews at the “Far Right”?

This should not be tolerate….AT ALL!

We’re going to take it in the rear again and get preached at about how we have to keep supporting these crap weasels because “we can’t do any better.”….”At least they’re better than the Democrat”….”In stead of helping our guys win…all you want to do is take your ball and go home”….what are you going to do, vote for the Democrat?”

But what do I know…I’m just a “Scorched Earth Purist”!

BAHHH!!!!

MarkTwain 3

Speaking of Scorched Eartyh Purists...I called it on the budget compromise didn't I

AceInTX (Diary) Monday, April 18th at 9:38AM EDT (link)

But even I didn’t expect it to be as bad as it was….Only in Washington Republican circles can a $350 Million cut equal $100 Billion.

In the real world Boehner’s math is off by $99.6 Billion Dollars.

YEAH TEAM!!!

MarkTwain 3

 
 

I am getting the impression this is a done deal. What about the house

earlgrey (Diary) Monday, April 18th at 9:34AM EDT (link)

or do we expect them to fold with dems and a few rinos? This stuff kind of makes me wonder why we work so hard. Yes I am new to activism, but if activists don’t see any reward or point to the fight, than they’ll stop. Hard enough with both parents working full time, traveing for work, sick little kids, etc.

The debate is largely over the mix.

LibertarianHawk (Diary) Monday, April 18th at 10:38AM EDT (link)

That is: will it be 75% spending cuts, 25% tax hikes? Will it be 2/3 spending cuts, 1/3 tax hikes (which Obama’s plan ostensibly aims for…though I don’t buy it)?

While it would be nice to think we could aim for 100% spending cuts, 0% tax hikes….I think the chances of that happening are vanishingly small.

 
 

The writing is on the wall, folks

LibertarianHawk (Diary) Monday, April 18th at 9:41AM EDT (link)

I’m guessing that it’s close to a 100% likelihood that we’ll be seeing tax hikes in the near future.

While I certainly don’t favor that, I am mostly resigned to it.

That said: they’ve got to do the spending part first, or I simply will not stand for it. How can they expect all of us to tighten our belts without them first doing so. They’re the ones who got us here, after all.

 

These are historically interesting times. I think we may

Tbone (Diary) Monday, April 18th at 9:49AM EDT (link)

be seeing the birth of a true, new third party in American politics.

Envisioning when all that is Left is the Right.

 

Laugh till it hurts, Taxes are raised, taxes are spent

johnt Monday, April 18th at 10:06AM EDT (link)

There is no debt reduction, it’s the giving matches to the pyromaniac thing. Plus they have to play the populist, envy game. Also, once in Washington, whatever their original positions, they fancy themselves a different, superior type of being. You just cannot do what the common herd expects.
Let’s hope for spine and principles, at least some, from the House.

“a man’s admiration for absolute government is proportinate to the contempt he feels for those around him”. Tocqueville

 

Oh when can we get rid of the RINO's in congress?

ihateliberals Monday, April 18th at 10:37AM EDT (link)

They do our Party no good and might as well be sitting on the other side of the isle. Mr. Chamblis, would you please tell me the lst time that raising taxes on the Rich actually brought in the expected revenue? I can answer that for you, NEVER. The really Rich simply move their money to protect it. Investing by the Rich slows down and the Revenues are never realized. What a waste of a Senate seat. We have to get rid of the RINO’s if we ever expect our Party to be strong again. Otherwise we might just as well go to a one party system and be done with America.

 

No tax increase without spending decrease

cardindrake Monday, April 18th at 10:41AM EDT (link)

The deficit is out of control. All options need to be on the table. But conservatives will turn on Republicans if they don’t attack it in this order.
1) Real spending cuts to the discretionary budget. The last deal was a joke.
2) Repeal Obamacare. Don’t take 500 Billion from medicare to fund Obamacare, and then tell us medicare is underfuneded
3) Entitlement reform. Fine, needs to be done. But don’t tell us SS needs to be raised to 70 while the federal retirement age is 50. And if you are going to means test SS pension, means test federal retirement pensions as well.
4) Raise taxes. On everybody. We don’t need 50% of the population who pay no taxes.

 

Erick, Saxby is now "Taxby"...

derechista76 Monday, April 18th at 11:13AM EDT (link)

…. Run with this against him now, and through his future defeat in his primary.

 

You mean "Establishment Republicans"...

SusanAnne Hiller (Diary) Monday, April 18th at 11:18AM EDT (link)

They just don’t get it, do they? Spend, spend, spend beyond their means and then come to us like we are their ATM. This will make a great primary campaign ad.

~SusanAnne
@susanannehiller on Twitter

 

You mean "Establishment Republicans"...

SusanAnne Hiller (Diary) Monday, April 18th at 11:18AM EDT (link)

They just don’t get it, do they? Spend, spend, spend beyond their means and then come to us like we are their ATM. This will make a great primary campaign ad.

~SusanAnne
@susanannehiller on Twitter

 

2008 Contribution

MSU_Charles Monday, April 18th at 11:22AM EDT (link)

In November of 2008, I responded with $500 to a Redstate money bomb for Chambliss’ runoff. I will gladly respond to another money bomb for a true conservative challenger to Chambliss in 2014.

 

What a Walking Argument For Term Limits!

Repair_Man_Jack (Diary) Monday, April 18th at 11:24AM EDT (link)

a few years in the K-Street cesspool, and he’s hob-knobbing w/ Mark Warner and contriving new ways to better consolidate control over The Outer Party.

Mr. Obama is pretending that an economic “recovery” is underway when he knows damn well that the banking system is just blowing smoke up the shredded *** of what’s left of that economy – James Howard Kunstler

 

What a Walking Argument For Term Limits!

Repair_Man_Jack (Diary) Monday, April 18th at 11:24AM EDT (link)

a few years in the K-Street cesspool, and he’s hob-knobbing w/ Mark Warner and contriving new ways to better consolidate control over The Outer Party.

Mr. Obama is pretending that an economic “recovery” is underway when he knows damn well that the banking system is just blowing smoke up the shredded *** of what’s left of that economy – James Howard Kunstler

 

I Forget Whose Quote

adair Monday, April 18th at 11:44AM EDT (link)

alluded to the fact that Republicans play the part of Charlie Brown in the Lucy-Football ploy each time there’s a trade-off between tax cuts/increases and spending cuts/increases.

Pres. Reagan and Tip O’Neil agreed to $2 in spending cuts for every $1 in tax increases; but somehow the Democrats never got around to cutting anything.

Now we’ve heard our Republican Senators and Representatives vow that they won’t vote to increase the debt ceiling unless there are significant cuts to spending. So here we go again. We are always so naive as to think it’s okay to “go second” after the trustworthy Dems get their increase in place.

And it would never occur to them that, if Chambliss is correct that Reps will vote to raise taxes, then we don’t have to raise the debt ceiling. It won’t be necessary at all. We’ll have all that new revenue, we’ll be flush with cash! Why, we can even start repairing roads and bridges, and insuring aliens, and giving teachers raises and getting the standard of living raised all over Africa and give Mexico more and more money for fighting drug lords … oh, Happy Days Are Here Again!!!

More than that

Finrod (Diary) Monday, April 18th at 12:33PM EDT (link)

I think it was 1987, Reagan agreed to $100 billion in tax increases in exchange for $300 billion in spending cuts.

Needless to say, we got the tax increase but none of the spending cuts. Reagan called it one of the biggest mistakes of his presidency.

PETA and the ASPCA are pure evil. See here and here.

 
 

OMG

phenne Monday, April 18th at 1:59PM EDT (link)

The word-parsing people employ during all this crappola — it is SICKENING.

Why must anyone fiddle with words and hidden meanings? What the H___ is wrong with these people?!?!?!

“Raise taxes” v. “Raise revenue” v. “Lower Rates = More (Quantity) Collected”

“Spending Cuts” v. “Spending Cap” v. “Reduced Spending Below 2008 Levels”

“Discresionnary” v. “Non-discresionnary” v. “All Spending”

I am getting ready to puke …..

“Liberals ‘libel’ ’cause the can’t ‘stand up’”!

 

My biggest problem with the tax code

victrola Monday, April 18th at 2:07PM EDT (link)

is the nearly 50% of wage-earning Americans that pay NO federal income tax. From here on out, Republicans should only try to broaden and flatten taxes. No more “across the board” tax cuts, what that usually ends up doing is just pulling more and more Americans off from paying any taxes altogether.

When you have nearly 1 out of 2 working Americans not paying income taxes, suddenly issues every big government idea sounds great because you’re not paying for it, deficits become meaningless. It’s incredibly hard, however, to try and “raise” taxes on low income Americans, or just lower taxes on wealthy Americans.

Something like a 20% across the board flat tax with virtually no deductions for every American making $1 a year to $10 billion should be the goal. You would see a much more unified movement for smaller government across all income classes.

 

The GOP...

leefox Monday, April 18th at 4:04PM EDT (link)

…needs an enema.

In what way are the Senate Republicans setting themselves apart from the democrats?

The blue-blood, Washington beltway RINOs need to be cleansed from the Republican party so that the GOP can regain their relevance to the American people.

If they allow taxes to be raised, there will be serious electoral upheaval come election day.

The "enema" is called being a TEA Party activist as a GOP Precinct Delegate...

audax (Diary) Tuesday, April 19th at 5:06AM EDT (link)

…to really “clean out” the GOP “system” it requires TEA Party activist being very active at their monthly County GOP meeting. This is where the “enema” starts.

GOP Precinct Committeemen elect delegates to the GOP District and GOP State Conventions.

Delegates to the GOP State Convention elect the GOP National Committeemen representing their State at the National level as well as delegates to the GOP nominating Convention.

Delegates to the GOP Nominating Convention elect The GOP Presidential Nominee.

So if you REALLY want to give the GOP an “enema” head to your NEXT GOP monthly County meeting and become a precinct delegate. For an even more effective “enema” take your like minded conservative-noun friends and neighbors and elect yourselves to the Executive Committe, the Rules Committee and the Nominations Committee (sometimes this is the Executive Committee). Only YOU can “clean out” a rotten system!

Audeamus pro audere est facere

 

Thanks leefox! Enema idea was so good I had to write a Diary! nt

audax (Diary) Tuesday, April 19th at 5:27AM EDT (link)

Audeamus pro audere est facere