Shouldn’t Facebook Provide Equal Time?


Just last Wednesday, Barack Obama held a townhall meeting online at Facebook. It drew lots of publicity and was hailed as a campaign event. Heck, it clearly was all about Barack Obama’s re-election.

We know Facebook leans left. We know Mark Zuckerberg is happy to be taxed more. But what of the Facebook community? They aren’t all lefties.

When the GOP has a nominee, Facebook should be fair and give the GOP nominee equal time. Our sister site Human Events has a petition up that you can sign and ask Facebook for equal time.

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UPDATE: Judging by the comments, some people have a literacy problem. The operative word in this post is should. The operative phrase is ask Facebook. We’re not calling on the federal government to get involved. Equal time rules do not apply.

We simply think in the interests of fairness, Facebook should allow the Republican nominee to hold a Facebook townhall too.


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Do AM radio stations have to provide equal time?

hrolf556 Tuesday, April 26th at 10:05AM EDT (link)

The question comes down to who has to provide equal time.

AM radio stations can select what they wish to broadcast. They are a business and aren’t required to provide equal time.

Facebook is a business and can select what they wish to broadcast. Because of that, they aren’t required to provide equal time.

I think this is a direct impact of repeal of the Fairness Doctrine.

Couple things confused here.

LibertarianHawk (Diary) Tuesday, April 26th at 10:24AM EDT (link)

For one thing, people often the “Equal Time” rule (which deals with political candidates) with the “Fairness Doctrine” (which deals with issues). You seem to be doing that here.

For another, there are no broadcast licenses involved with Facebook — which was always the FCC’s hook in enforcing these regulations.

And, lastly, I read Erick as saying that Facebook *should* offer equal time to a Republican candidate of their own volition….not that they are, or should be, compelled by law to do so.

You know, you are right about the rules

hrolf556 Tuesday, April 26th at 10:34AM EDT (link)

I was equating the two together and he did say “should”. Those are good points. It all comes down to a business and the target market for that business.

AM stations, by a large percentage, broadcast conservative programs vs. liberal programs. I know, from purchasing radio ads, that AM radio tends to have an older audience.

I found a 2010 poll (couldn’t find a more recent one) that showed 63% of all facebook users were under 34. 40% were under 25 years old. I couldn’t find any polls(does anyone have any) that showed the political split between age groups.

The old adage is the younger you are the more liberal you are so Facebook is targeting their demographic sweet spot. It is all about eyeballs, page views, stickiness and audience engagement for Facebook. Their audience tends to be younger and probably more liberal.

Don’t forget Facebook did provide a platform for when Bush 2 was promoting his book. I would guess they will probably do the same for the Republican nominee.

Sorry I didn’t add a link to the poll…I didn’t know if that was allowed.

Of course.

LibertarianHawk (Diary) Tuesday, April 26th at 10:42AM EDT (link)

Facebook is a private business and — being that we are, by and large, conservatives here — I think most here respect that and all that comes with it.

I’m not sure I totally agree with Erick’s point. It sounds whiny to me — which is much the same as lefties and AM talk radio.

Still, all he’s saying is that Facebook should, as a business decision (being that they have a lot of conservative users), make a similar provision for the Republican nominee. If they don’t want to, that’s their prerogative.

I just don’t want us confusing this petition with the notion of some federally-enforced regulation. That’s what Democrats do, not us.

 
 
 
 

I rarely disagree with you Erick

romeg Tuesday, April 26th at 10:08AM EDT (link)

But this is one of those times.

The last thing needed is MORE federal interference in the conduct of business.

“Of all tyrannies a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victim may be the most oppressive. It may be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron’s cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated, but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end for they do so with the approval of their own conscience.” – C. S. Lewis

romeg, when did Human Events become a federal entity? nt

Aaron Gardner (Diary) Tuesday, April 26th at 10:30AM EDT (link)

conform and celebrate diversity….or else!!!

“We’d be much better off if We The People had desired small government enough to keep it.” acat


If Facebook wishes to offer equal time

romeg Tuesday, April 26th at 12:27PM EDT (link)

under terms and conditions acceptable to the opposition (us), that is totally up to them. Whether or not we think they should do so is of consequence only to the point that Zuckerburg et al can be persuaded to go along with us.

Obama IS the Democrat Candidate and will be their nominee. He has a very large draw and following. That is good for Facebook. When we have a candidate that can generate the kind of numbers that Obama does, then Zuckerburg will have to think about that.

As Libertarianhawk observes, why whine about it if they won’t let us play in their sandbox. It only makes us look weak just as their whining about access to the AM airwaves makes them look like crybabies.

IOW, what’s the point of filing some sort of petition? It seem like an enormous waste of time and resources to make ourselves look, frankly, silly.

If moral suasion is the approach to use then make every effort to make Facebook look bad, biased or whatever. But don’t expect to get much mileage out of that. For the moment, they have a lock on the social network niche and unless Zuckerburg can be persuaded to a conservative/libertarian POV, efforts to embarrass him will only embarrass us.

“Of all tyrannies a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victim may be the most oppressive. It may be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron’s cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated, but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end for they do so with the approval of their own conscience.” – C. S. Lewis

Just a heads up

hrolf556 Tuesday, April 26th at 12:31PM EDT (link)

The proper term is “He is the Democratic Candidate” not “Democrat”. It would be like anyone said, “He is the Republic Candidate”

Just an FYI.

Careful, your mask just slipped. nt

Aaron Gardner (Diary) Tuesday, April 26th at 12:35PM EDT (link)

conform and celebrate diversity….or else!!!

“We’d be much better off if We The People had desired small government enough to keep it.” acat


 

G'bye

Neil Stevens (Diary) Tuesday, April 26th at 12:36PM EDT (link)

What Aaron said.

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It IS the Democrat Party!

frankmac Tuesday, April 26th at 1:07PM EDT (link)

The “ic” added to Democrat was done only after Obama took office. His regime is obviously trying to give people the idea that he stands for democratic ideals when in fact he is a socialist. Democrat candidate is the correct term!

 

Au Contraire mon ami.

romeg Tuesday, April 26th at 2:10PM EDT (link)

They call themselves “Democrats”, not “Democratics”.

Democratic is an adjective that does not pertain, in any way, to that cabal of communists and socialists.

I am a Republican. I am a member of the Republican Party.

“Of all tyrannies a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victim may be the most oppressive. It may be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron’s cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated, but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end for they do so with the approval of their own conscience.” – C. S. Lewis

 
 

Goal Post shift. When did Human Events become a federal entity?

Aaron Gardner (Diary) Tuesday, April 26th at 12:33PM EDT (link)

Let’s just cut to the chase… you admit you were wrong and we can just move on.

conform and celebrate diversity….or else!!!

“We’d be much better off if We The People had desired small government enough to keep it.” acat


Facebook is NOT a Federal Agency

romeg Tuesday, April 26th at 2:13PM EDT (link)

They are a private entity and can do as they wish. Any whining we engage in is exactly that.

“Of all tyrannies a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victim may be the most oppressive. It may be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron’s cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated, but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end for they do so with the approval of their own conscience.” – C. S. Lewis

Again, goal post shift. You were complaining of federal interference. When did Human Events become a federal entity? nt

Aaron Gardner (Diary) Tuesday, April 26th at 2:15PM EDT (link)

conform and celebrate diversity….or else!!!

“We’d be much better off if We The People had desired small government enough to keep it.” acat


I've already move on Aaron.

romeg Tuesday, April 26th at 5:34PM EDT (link)

Why don’t you?

“Of all tyrannies a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victim may be the most oppressive. It may be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron’s cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated, but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end for they do so with the approval of their own conscience.” – C. S. Lewis

Obviously, hence your reply. Again. nt

Aaron Gardner (Diary) Tuesday, April 26th at 5:36PM EDT (link)

conform and celebrate diversity….or else!!!

“We’d be much better off if We The People had desired small government enough to keep it.” acat


 
 
 
 
 
 
 

I'm not asking for federal interference

Erick Erickson (Diary) Tuesday, April 26th at 12:31PM EDT (link)

I’m just saying Facebook should of its own volition do it.

Who will stand on either hand and keep this bridge with me?

We just need to find a way to "encourage" them

romeg Tuesday, April 26th at 4:20PM EDT (link)

to WANT to do it.

I’m not much on protests or demonstrations or petition drives except when the target of those actions is the government. Rather than trying to shame someone into an action that you desire, make them look foolish for even thinking about NOT including you in their plans.

“Of all tyrannies a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victim may be the most oppressive. It may be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron’s cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated, but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end for they do so with the approval of their own conscience.” – C. S. Lewis

 
 
 

"Fairness" only applies

izoneguy (Diary) Tuesday, April 26th at 10:10AM EDT (link)

if it hurts conservative causes – otherwise the left will tell us to shut up and sit down.

Let me know when Zuckerberg writes that check to the IRS.

Those who had once simpered: “I don’t want to destroy the rich, I only want to seize a little of their surplus to help the poor, just a little, they’ll never miss it!” – then, later, had snapped: “The tycoons can stand being squeezed; they’ve amassed enough to last them for three generations” – then, later, had yelled: “Why should the people suffer while businessmen have reserves to last a year?” – now were screaming: “Why should we starve while some people have reserves to last a week?” – Atlas Shrugged

Let me know when Chicago's churches invite Republican candidates to speak to their congregations... [nt]

acat (Diary) Tuesday, April 26th at 10:18AM EDT (link)

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Caveat Suffragator

 

555 nt

olsmithie (Diary) Tuesday, April 26th at 2:20PM EDT (link)
 

Duh ! I think what Erick said was,"Facebook should

johnt Tuesday, April 26th at 10:27AM EDT (link)

be fair, not FB must be made or coerced into being fair, which if that did happen, would have nothing to do with fairness, but only Govt regs.
I for one am quite happy the Fairness Doctrine is as dead as Obama’s brain, the contrary implications should make one’s blood run cold, sort of like having Jack the Ripper over for dinner.

“a man’s admiration for absolute government is proportinate to the contempt he feels for those around him”. Tocqueville

 

Uh-uh / No no no

erp617 Tuesday, April 26th at 10:32AM EDT (link)

It’s truly scary when even those on our side show they’ve bought into the concept of collectivism. Equal time is only for public entities. Private companies like Facebook can and should do whatever they want.

Remember, it’s only equality of opportunity that is birthright of every American, not equality of outcome.

Are those on left slezoids? Yes, without question. Will they be first to go under Islamism or Socialism? Again, yes without question. Should be let it happen to prove it. No, no no.

 

Funny Erick

Neil Stevens (Diary) Tuesday, April 26th at 12:11PM EDT (link)

Why is it that libertarians have such atrophied concept of community and private action, that they’re projecting on you a call for state action?

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Very true

rogershru2 (Diary) Tuesday, April 26th at 2:37PM EDT (link)

Libertarians, your Objectivism is showing. Like Erick is pointing out, it’s ok to make judgments about behavior and morality, without appealing to government as the judge.

“We used to have the best infrastructure in the world here in America. We’re the country that built the Intercontinental Railroad …” – President Obama

 
 

Erik, c'mom!

davidleigh Tuesday, April 26th at 3:25PM EDT (link)

Who cares about facebook! I’m serious, who cares! I hope the republican nominee–which is most likely going to be Romney–snubs the dweeb Zuckerman. And, I pray Romeny snubs Oprah’s new, failing channel as well. Stick to the serious media, mainly Fox News and perhaps a few other cable outlets. If you MUST go on Meet the Press with Davy Gregory, then I hope Romney–who is certainly capable of playing rough considering his lifelong success–is rapid in his defense of what his plans are–even if the media looks aghast and complains about the po l’il ole soccer moms. I would take Obama to the woodshed every single day; I would be America-first and rattle the world markets and the little dictator men running around in uniforms that America is coming back with a vengence and no apologies –and no bowing for cripes sakes! We need a man in the White House: no woman, no Obama! I mean it. No more metro-sexuals! Our nominee doesn’t need to kiss a 14 year old’s rear-in, that means no Facebook.

FB not just kiddies

jimc1969 Tuesday, April 26th at 4:17PM EDT (link)

I recently read that over 1/2 of Americans who are 14 ( or maybe it was 13 ? ) or over are on FB, so its NOT just the kiddies.
Heck, I know people in there late 30′s and early 40′s that practically LIVE on FB.

 

FB not just kiddies

jimc1969 Tuesday, April 26th at 4:17PM EDT (link)

I recently read that over 1/2 of Americans who are 14 ( or maybe it was 13 ? ) or over are on FB, so its NOT just the kiddies.
Heck, I know people in there late 30′s and early 40′s that practically LIVE on FB.

 

Oprah

jimc1969 Tuesday, April 26th at 4:18PM EDT (link)

Though, I fully agree with you about Oprah !!!

 

Oprah

jimc1969 Tuesday, April 26th at 4:18PM EDT (link)

Though, I fully agree with you about Oprah !!!

 
 

Asking the left for fairness?

anotherindyfilmguy (Diary) Tuesday, April 26th at 3:59PM EDT (link)

Good luck with that…

Razz Etc!
“Best Poker book written ever!!!” – Author’s unbiased opinion…

 

Plan B

jimc1969 Tuesday, April 26th at 4:06PM EDT (link)

If they won’t, I’m sure myspace wiill !!!

And since FB, probably doesn’t want people using myspace, it would be in there best interest to allow it…..

 

Plan B

jimc1969 Tuesday, April 26th at 4:06PM EDT (link)

If they won’t, I’m sure myspace wiill !!!

And since FB, probably doesn’t want people using myspace, it would be in there best interest to allow it…..

 

Morning Briefing....

nedescon Wednesday, April 27th at 6:59AM EDT (link)

Literacy problem?..I believe it is a cognitive problem….

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Equal time on Facebook?

teridavisnewman (Diary) Wednesday, April 27th at 9:08AM EDT (link)

God forbid Mark Zuckerberg should deter from the liberal creed which as we all know is:
1. The rules do not apply to us.
2. The end justifies the means.
3. Do as we say, not as we do.
If he were to appear fair and impartial then he would lose his “cool” and everyone knows how important it is for Zuckerberg to be an icon of “cool” since if it weren’t for Facebook, he’d be just another pocket-protector-wearing nerd who couldn’t get a date and who would never have had sex without money changing hands.

Teri Davis Newman
Consultant
2010 Republican Nominee for Congress
12th Congressional District of Illinois
www.terinewman.com

 

Interesting petition from Erick which has generated even more interesting replies.

qurys Wednesday, April 27th at 12:43PM EDT (link)

Its obvious from reading the replies why we can’t get much done in government. What is the difference between “could” and “should” and “must”. What is the difference between the fairness doctrine and equal time? What is the difference between Democratic and Democrat? What is the impact of facebook on our society? Is there any impact? Do we care? Is a petition a call for government regulation? Are we in the weeds here?
Have we so bought into the notion that the social media elected Barack Obama that we are afraid we cannot elect a conservative without their platform? Have we so forgotten how to talk to a neighbor and try to convince them of our conservative beliefs in a conservative candidate that we turn the job over to Mark Zuckerberg? If each and every one of us sat down face to face with one other person and spent the “equal time” that we spend on facebook or twitter – and attempted to convince them of our positions and our candidate, we would win. We would not convince all of them, but we would win.

FB is an important tool/communications platform

Common_Cents (Diary) Wednesday, April 27th at 12:56PM EDT (link)

It’s not the only one, but it is important and will continue to be.

Your argument is like saying why do we need automobiles when we got horses?

Social media is very important and should be embraced early on by GOP.

Not kiss butt to FB but leverage it as a communication tool. Pressure it if need be to have equal time. Nothing wrong with that.

“Fathom the hypocrisy of a Government
that requires every citizen to prove
they are insured…. but not everyone
must prove they are a citizen.”
-Ben Stein

“In individuals, insanity is rare; but in groups, parties, nations and epochs, it is the rule.”[especially in DC] – Friedrich Nietzsche

It is interesting that someone would discount social media on a site

YnotNOW (Diary) Wednesday, April 27th at 7:10PM EDT (link)

that is an activist blog.

YnotNOW
If not me, who? If not now, when?

 

It is interesting that someone would discount social media on a site

YnotNOW (Diary) Wednesday, April 27th at 7:10PM EDT (link)

that is an activist blog.

YnotNOW
If not me, who? If not now, when?

 
 
 

I rarely (first time) disagree with you Eric but

djvu (Diary) Wednesday, April 27th at 6:02PM EDT (link)

you are on a slippery path. Yes there is a legal difference between the Fairness Doctrine and equal time but do you recall how the camel got into the tent? It WOULD BE NICE if FB gave us equal time without our asking THEM. Oh, they didn”t offer? Let’s JUST ASK them. What? They said no! Let’s MOUNT A PETITION. No again? Let’s find someone who can put PRESSURE ON THEM. What no again? Let’s find someone who CAN ORDER them to give us equal time. I KNOW who that is. Voila! EQUAL TIME DOCTRINE. How will you defend your stand against the Fairness Doctrine when all you are doing is ASKING – in the beginning – for the same thing?
Robert Palmer Smith

That is an awfully long slippery slope

YnotNOW (Diary) Wednesday, April 27th at 7:07PM EDT (link)

that you acuse Eric of sliding down. Don’t you trust Conservatives to stick to conservative principles when fighting for conservatives?

YnotNOW
If not me, who? If not now, when?

Not any more than I trust Republicans aka RINOS.

djvu (Diary) Thursday, April 28th at 8:26AM EDT (link)

Thanks YnotNOW for your comment. I, too, feel that we can trust REAL conservatives. Your question of trust is what concerned me. Had I read Daily Events this morning before posting my comments about a slippery path ( you are correct – the word is ‘slope’ ) I would have been able to insert two more examples of my concern.
Mr. Adam Tragone, managing editor of Daily Events, has used the expression, “Hold FaceBook accountable.” HOLD them accountable for what? And Human Events in their petiton is using the word DEMAND. Based on these two words I am going to DEMAND that my neighbor allow me to use his lawn mower to cut my grass and HOLD him accountable to do so.

 
 

That is an awfully long slippery slope

YnotNOW (Diary) Wednesday, April 27th at 7:07PM EDT (link)

that you acuse Eric of sliding down. Don’t you trust Conservatives to stick to conservative principles when fighting for conservatives?

YnotNOW
If not me, who? If not now, when?

 
 

OMG I hope

djvu (Diary) Thursday, April 28th at 1:16PM EDT (link)

that my comment title in the above reply to YnotNOW didn’t in any way infer that Erick, Tragone and Human Events are not REAL conservatives. What concerns me – again am I repeating myself – is that Face Book is owned by Zuckerberg, just as my neighbor’s lawn mower is owned by my neighbor, and we conservatives have no right what so ever of DEMANDING that he give us equal time of the use of his property.
My fear is that since we have no presidential candidate that we can all really support heart and soul (read Reagan) we are groping in the dark for means to combat what , at the outset, appears to be a successful start of the Democratic campaign to reelect the most destructive president our Republic has ever known.
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