Yesterday on National Review Online, Checker Finn took one pot shot after another at the state of Texas and publicly displayed his hand-wringing over Texas Governor Rick Perry’s potential influence on national education policy. You see, Mr. Finn tries – quite unsuccessfully in my view – to target Texas “bravado” as the threat to a sound education policy. On the one hand, he attempts to criticize Governor Perry by lumping him in with George W. Bush’s efforts to push No Child Left Behind, despite Perry’s resistance to embrace it. Then he turns around and says now we will somehow suffer because Perry’s national policy prefers to leave education to the states (heaven forbid).
Now before I go too far, my purpose of responding to Mr. Finn is not to defend or promote the Governor as much as it is to point out the absurdity of what Mr. Finn purports to say on an objective basis and the curious placement of such a piece in National Review given the leftist connections of the Fordham Foundation, which tries assiduously to portray itself as center-right despite those connections.
Quite understandably, Texas’ opposition under Governor Perry to the creation of a one-size fits all national education system is problematic to special interest groups such as Mr. Finn’s Fordham Foundation, which has received funding to promote national standards and has taken (largely inaccurate) shots at Texas’ education system before.
The Fordham Foundation receives large contributions from the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation – including $959,000 to review the so-called “Common Core,” an effort in which Texas has refused to participate, drawing criticism from the likes of Mr. Finn. But that refusal – before the standards were released – was validated upon a review of the final product. Please ask parents in my home state of Georgia how the “blended math” envisioned by the common core worked for them. Additionally I would point out that the common core math course called “Modeling” has one discernable standard. It reads as follows:
In descriptive modeling, a model simply describes the phenomena or summarizes them in a compact form. Graphs of observations are a familiar descriptive model—for example, graphs of global temperature and atmospheric CO2 over time.
This may be a fine exercise for a student (or not) but one has to wonder whether the political message behind this standard purports to turn a math class into a forum for discussion of global warming. Perhaps they should rename the course as “Al-Gore-ithems.”
Finn also half-heartedly defends but then laments the national implication of Texas’ refusal to take up to $700 million in “Race to the Top” funding. Finn apparently believes because Texas is unique, it can handle its education (sort of, subject to his own views about national standards), but that some states are too lame to handle it on their own, saying:
How about gravely ill jurisdictions like Ohio and Michigan where Uncle Sam might help reformers duke it out with entrenched unions? Or seriously poor places like Mississippi and Alabama, which may need some outside bucks to leverage change? Or educationally inert states like Nebraska and South Dakota that may just need a kick in the pants?
But, this is the way of those who accept a Washington-knows-best school of thought, so to speak. I happen to believe Governor Perry was correct when he said that “we would be foolish and irresponsible to place our children’s future in the hands of unelected bureaucrats and special interest groups thousands of miles away in Washington.”
In fact, under Governor Perry, Texas has taken on significant challenges, including the dropout rate. Even in the face of the massive impact of illegal immigration on the schools, the dropout rate in Texas has dropped dramatically in Texas over the past ten years. Texas also has embraced innovations such as incentive pay for teachers, charter school reform, enhancement of state and local data systems and the turn-around of low-performing schools. And, interestingly, Texas embraced these concepts as a state long before the carrot of Race to the Top was dangled before them and prior to the so-called stimulus. Most importantly however, Texas undertook these initiatives in a way that allowed local school districts to innovate with these models to suit the needs of their children and communities.
No doubt some statistics will show Texas could be doing better and some would show Texas doing well. But the larger point is that it is ridiculous to suggest that because the Governor favors an approach that respects the Constitution and leaves primary decisions regarding education at the state and local level, he somehow is taking Texas arrogance to Washington.
Would that we have that kind of arrogance in Washington instead of the Washington-knows-best kind.
Perry and other reformer governors should be applauded for working to increase their state standards. This competition between the states will lead to real reform and best practices and that will help children across the nation.
Moe Lane
Dan McLaughlin
Dan Spencer
Jeff Emanuel
Neil Stevens
Perry for POTUS
rsklaroff (Diary) Thursday, June 16th at 5:58AM EDT (link)The key barometer that must be employed assiduously when determining the credibility of upcoming political literature–regardless of the lede–is the comparison of Texas vs. America.
Perry will be slammed for his secessionist rhetoric but, once that alleged-slur has been transformed into an educational-moment, the electorate will become encouraged to “feel” the federalism that the Founders/Framers had forcefully injected into the Constitution.
Particularly if Rudy reciprocates endorsements, Perry will be crowned as the “Chris Christie with a sound gubernatorial record of achievement.” He will then promptly join Romney/Bachmann as a front-runner [noting the obvious flaws in the remainder of the field], with his capacity to appeal to each GOP constituency ultimately prevailing.
Robert B. Sklaroff, M.D.
r.sklaroff@verizon.net
[the guy with the "RS-diary" dedicated to differentiating trustworthy conservative-pundits from inside-the-beltway-RINO's]
“…fighting for Truth, Justice, and the American Way!”
You Hit The Nail On The Head
carolynr Thursday, June 16th at 9:43AM EDT (link)Excellent post. I could not agree more. This is the message that needs to get out.
12% Palin + 13% Rudy = 25% Rick Perry
chihank Thursday, June 16th at 1:29PM EDT (link)Last week, a Fox News poll had Romney leading with 23%, Rudy 13%, and Palin 12%.
If Palin and Rudy endorse Perry, then Perry would be an instant 1st tier contender.
Plus Haley Barbour might throw his organizational support to Rick Perry.
SOUNDS GOOD
fsm47 Thursday, June 16th at 4:26PM EDT (link)Sounds good to me Dr. Sklaroff. Let us hope your prognosis is correct.
Amen
Toby Calvert-Lee (Diary) Thursday, June 16th at 9:57PM EDT (link)Perry is a Conservative with a proven record, and even when some of his ideas were co-opted by leftists (Trans-texas corridor), he stood up against them, and tried to fix the eminent domain speech in the bill. I believe @izoneguy has a link below that proves that. Perry, the truth is, is a Conservative who would make a great President.
Your friend and fellow Conservative in the fight
– Toby Calvert-Lee
Twitter: @TobyCalvertLee
Gov. Perry would make a great President
sowa1 Thursday, June 16th at 6:00AM EDT (link)that is why the main stream media etc. are attacking him. The media picked our last Republican nominee and it won’t happen again. Anyone is better that Obama and his corrupt Gov’t. The Democrats started to destroy the economy the last two years of President Bush’s term and have not stopped. The people will never hear the truth about what is going on in Washington, so don’t listen to them. Vote the Dems out of the White House and Senate. Then we will recover.
Texas Gov. v Washington Insider Establishment Elite
bobguzzardi Thursday, June 16th at 6:15AM EDT (link)Many resonate with the message of Gov. Perry that Washington’s Insider Establishment Elite do not know best for the rest of us. I think this ‘outsider’ message resonates and is one of the reasons for Sarah Palin’s appeal. Gov. Perry (and Sarah Palin) stand against the drift of our country toward European Social Democratic Welfare Statism. Given the result of the Obama Administration’s failure on the economy, I think more and more will see the value of Gov. Perry’s message.
“But, this is the way of those who accept a Washington-knows-best school of thought, so to speak. I happen to believe Governor Perry was correct when he said that “we would be foolish and irresponsible to place our children’s future in the hands of unelected bureaucrats and special interest groups thousands of miles away in Washington.”
I want to win
SirGladiator (Diary) Thursday, June 16th at 7:23AM EDT (link)The education issue is much bigger than any one person or candidate. To me, I’m just tired of the far-left using their control of education to promote their far-left agenda, then we as Conservatives don’t attempt to do the same when we run things. Of course I agree with the principle that education should bea local issue not national and things like that, but the way things are run right now when we lose, they run things by teaching America’s young indoctrination in support of socialism, environmental extremism, sexual immorality, and America-is-bad revisionist history, to name just a few things. When we win, what do we get to teach? Maybe if we’re lucky, we get to teach a class on the Constitution. If we’re REALLY lucky. It’s just pathetic.
I like what they did in Texas, I have no idea whether Rick Perry played a big role or no role at all, or anything in between, but they stood up, took control of education textbooks, and took out the far-left evil stuff and put in truthful, good, Pro-America stuff. That’s what I want to see done everywhere, including in Washington. What better way to get the liberals to agree to shut down the Department of Education than by totally taking it over, Texas-style, and using it to teach true Pro-America, pro-morality, pro-capitalism, pro-Freedom stuff, like they’re doing in Texas. Its time we stopped letting the far left spread their lies through the department of education, and never using that same department to spread the truth when we have the chance. Sure, shut it down, that’d be great, but shut it down after we’ve used it just like they did and they’re the ones begging US to shut it down. Thank you Texas for leading the way, and let’s spread what they did in Texas nationwide.
DOE
fsm47 Thursday, June 16th at 4:29PM EDT (link)A back door way to get rid of the DOE. I like it. The liberals are too blind to understand that the Government they want to install can also be used against them.
5! (nt)
YnotNOW (Diary) Thursday, June 16th at 4:32PM EDT (link)YnotNOW
If not me, who? If not now, when?
Yes, the states should compete in education
realvoice2010 Saturday, June 18th at 12:19PM EDT (link)in the STEM courses and english and history and us government. Dump the “social sciences” or at least the condom on cucumber type “education”. Taking over education is a good idea for conservatives.
Perry is only for leaving education to the states...
e_rowe (Diary) Thursday, June 16th at 8:38AM EDT (link)while he’s a governor and his most likely next challenge will be winning the Republican presidential primaries.
The biggest problem I have with that is trusting him. I don’t believe that once he got in the White House he would ever do anything to lessen his own power. He’s a slime ball who can go head-to-head with Romney in a contest of who can say whatever they need to say to make voters like them any day.
hmmmm
gunslingr45 Thursday, June 16th at 8:53AM EDT (link)Slime ball? Are you even a Conservative? You know what Ronnie said about badmouthing other Republicans. Leave that to the Liberals.
RonpaulRonpaulRonPaul (nt)
Neil Stevens (Diary) Thursday, June 16th at 11:07AM EDT (link)RS contributing editor and “a hardy variety of crabgrass.”
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funwithknives Thursday, June 16th at 12:18PM EDT (link)Either you’re off your MEDS and need a double dose ,or you are a Ringer and just really like to throw the bull around. Or there’s a Third option , and I just didn’t get around to it. The biggest problem any of us have with politicians is trusting them. You listen to all the debates and then choose, Knowing you MUST stay engaged ,and let your choice know you are still (and Always) in the game . After G W B got elected , many figured it was Conservative SLEEPY-TIME and did just that. Where did THAT get America,and Advancement of Liberty? We have the result (BHO) in our face ,continually, to remind us of Our Failure, Clearly illustrating my point: We collectively must Never again disengage from the Process. In this age of instant ,effortless communication, to not do so can be considered a dereliction of your Civic Responsibility. So C’mon E R, Who’s YUR DADDY? One thing’s for sure: Your stated choice will not be reduced to simplistic thoughts anywhere around These Parts.
I'm Not a Perry Fan, but I Agree
cpaguy Thursday, June 16th at 8:47AM EDT (link)Sometimes folks try too hard to make somebody look bad. When they do that, they only hurt their own cause.
I think Perry would be a terrible President, but no need to make an argument against him based upon a flimsy educational premise.
Do so based upon the facts.
If they want to attack Perry do it based upon him:
1. Raising Taxes
2. Being Weak on Immigration (a johnny come lately given the political environment)
3. Infringing on the Freedoms of Texans with Health mandates
4. Getting Texas involved in huge construction boondoggles with foreign companies to bequest his cronies.
5. Engaging in wide spread taking of land via emminent domain
And, as usual cpaguy, you posted no cites for your assertions.
acat (Diary) Thursday, June 16th at 8:52AM EDT (link)I assert that, in your world, the sky is a pleasing seafoam green colour, the power plants all run on unicorn flatus, and everyone has a full time job picking up the gold left behind by the leprechauns.
Mew
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Fantasy Land
cpaguy Thursday, June 16th at 9:00AM EDT (link)What citations would you like? Everything I posted is 100% true, even though you wish it not to be (one should deal with reality, not fantasy land).
I have posted plenty of citations about the numbered items in response to your direct posts.
I agree with Erick on his post. If you are going to attack somebody, do it based on the facts.
Don’t buy into a lamestream media based attack. I’d imagine that is just that type of attack that would come from the Obama camp…
Texas has its problems, particularly in regards to education, but it has nothing to do with adhering (or not) to government mandates attached to education dollars.
Gov. Perry Designates Eminent Domain, Sanctuary Cities as Emergency Items
izoneguy (Diary) Thursday, June 16th at 9:16AM EDT (link)http://www.governor.state.tx.us/news/press-release/15557/
Gov. Rick Perry today, in separate addresses to the Texas Senate and House of Representatives, announced emergency items for the 82nd Legislative session, which include protecting private property rights/addressing eminent domain issues, and abolishing sanctuary cities in Texas. The governor also reiterated his commitment to balancing the state budget without raising taxes by prioritizing and cutting government spending.
“Texans have sent us all a loud and clear message that they expect us to balance our budget without taking more money from employers and working families,” Gov. Perry said. “As we tackle pressing issues, such as strengthening private property rights and abolishing sanctuary cities, Texans also want state government to be leaner and more efficient, and I’m confident Texas leaders will heed that message.”
Including eminent domain issues and the ban of sanctuary cities on the list of emergency items allows lawmakers to begin considering these issues during the initial 30 days of the legislative session.
Balancing the budget while strengthening Texas’ job-friendly climate – based on low taxes, predictable regulations, a fair legal system and world-class workforce – is a top priority for the governor and vital to the future of the state. In order to ensure state agencies continue to use taxpayer dollars prudently, the governor, lieutenant governor and House speaker have already directed state agencies to identify savings of 5 percent in the 2010-2011 biennium, an additional 2.5 percent for the 2011 fiscal year, and 10 percent for the 2012-2013 biennium.
Those who had once simpered: “I don’t want to destroy the rich, I only want to seize a little of their surplus to help the poor, just a little, they’ll never miss it!” – then, later, had snapped: “The tycoons can stand being squeezed; they’ve amassed enough to last them for three generations” – then, later, had yelled: “Why should the people suffer while businessmen have reserves to last a year?” – now were screaming: “Why should we starve while some people have reserves to last a week?” – Atlas Shrugged
Hey cpaguy? That right there, what izoneguy did? That's a cite.
acat (Diary) Thursday, June 16th at 9:21AM EDT (link)And it’s one that pretty much destroys another 2 of your anti-Perry points.
I dunno, maybe Perry knew he was running when he put these on the agenda for the legislature to deal with…. just to make himself look good.
Could be, though, that these are his true colours.
Mew
p.s. yeah, I know izoneguy has his own agenda – he’s pro-Perry – but I’ll note that by sticking to facts and by posting links to back ‘em up, he’s doing a much better job of showing Perry to be a decent candidate.
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Yes I know
cpaguy Thursday, June 16th at 9:08PM EDT (link)And I mentioned in my post that Perry has used the last10 years or so to do very little about the border.
He has put politics above the need of Texans.
He is only doing something now (and probably about the past 18 months or so too) because he fears the Tea Party more than the Hispanic Caucus.
As always, Perry puts his finger in the wind (and a lobbyist buddy in his back pocket).
It sure looks from your record that attacking Gov. Perry is your only reason to be at RedState
civil truth (Diary) Thursday, June 16th at 9:26PM EDT (link)At least that’s what you comment history shows. And I haven’t seen any diaries. Such one-track behavior will not lead to a long life at RedState, based on what I’ve seen of others over the years who have followed that path.
I at least (and I suspect others here as well) would certainly hope to hear of your views on other issues and how we can advance conservatism. You do have an ability to lay out your points coherently (putting aside disputes over providing links) and it would be good to see that talent applied to other matters of import to our nation.
The greatest evil…is conceived and ordered (moved, seconded, carried, and minuted) in clean, carpeted, warmed, and well-lighted offices, by quiet men with white collars and cut fingernails and smooth-shaven cheeks who do not need to raise their voice. Hence, naturally enough, my symbol for Hell is something like the bureaucracy of a police state or the offices of a thoroughly nasty business concern. -C.S. Lewis
I do have to point out, Civil, that I too ...
acat (Diary) Friday, June 17th at 12:57AM EDT (link)have written no diaries. It’s not exactly a fair metric, although in my case there’s a mitigating circumstance – my account is broken and I’m told a fix will happen at .. some point in the future.
Mew
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Diaries
cpaguy Friday, June 17th at 1:25AM EDT (link)Well, I have read this site for awhile…and been interested in the election season enough to register.
I am obviously not a fan of Rick Perry (my group is Cain, Pawlenty and Santorum), As a conservative Texan, I think it is my duty to put Perry’s record out there so people don’t confuse the success of Texas with the stewardship of Perry. Sure, he is better than Romney, but not by much. I think this is a time for real leadership…not another guy who puts his finger to the wind.
Aren’t the diaries things that nobody reads? I’ve thought about, but not worth the effort…at the moment (probably be about Perry anyway…lol),
Also, if I keep attacking Perry in Perry threads, will I be banned or something? No other threads seem particularly interesting…all boilerplate stuff…
Which is exactly why you should write a diary
civil truth (Diary) Saturday, June 18th at 7:47PM EDT (link)I’m writing this comment because I do perceive you to be a thoughtful individual trying to contribute to the discussion rather than someone whose intentions are to be disruptive. As you know if you’ve followed here for very long, we see a lot of the latter at RedState. And if I put you in that latter group, I would not bother to waste time for this comment.
So take this comment as reflecting my assessment (I hope correctly) of your having good intentions. And as advice, as I am not a moderator and can’t speak for them.
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Comments are best reserved for bringing several points to attention. In your case, where you formed an thoughtful and coherent position regarding Gov. Perry’s record and how that affects his suitability to be the Republican nominee for President, it’s much better to write a diary.
1) You will be able to bring your views directly to the entire RedState readership rather than just to those who follow the threads down to your comments.
2) It will focus the discussion of your position rather than having various fragments in different threads.
3) You then would not detract and distract from the topic that the author addressed in his post, which he stated in his second paragraph:
Now I know that in practice, threads do become unruly. But rather than add fuel to the fire, I think you would better help the community if your next effort regarding Gov. Perry would be to write a diary. This would also give you the best forum to marshal your arguments and make your case to the depth that you wish, which the comments structure is poorly suited for.
And that in turn would create also a far more focused forum for discussion of your views.
Finally, I would note that if it’s true that your only political interest at this time is Gov. Perry and nothing else here at RedState is worth your interest or engagement with, then it really is time to expand your horizons and apply your analytical skills to address the many other issues and dangers facing our nation.
The greatest evil…is conceived and ordered (moved, seconded, carried, and minuted) in clean, carpeted, warmed, and well-lighted offices, by quiet men with white collars and cut fingernails and smooth-shaven cheeks who do not need to raise their voice. Hence, naturally enough, my symbol for Hell is something like the bureaucracy of a police state or the offices of a thoroughly nasty business concern. -C.S. Lewis
Since I also have an interest in Perry as a potential, could you give ....
gekster (Diary) Thursday, June 16th at 9:43PM EDT (link)any kind of backup to what you said above.
1. Raising Taxes
2. Being Weak on Immigration (a johnny come lately given the political environment)
3. Infringing on the Freedoms of Texans with Health mandates
4. Getting Texas involved in huge construction boondoggles with foreign companies to bequest his cronies.
5. Engaging in wide spread taking of land via emminent domain
3 out of 5 would not be bad.
They say Republicans are for the rich, Democrats are for the poor.
If they need more voters,
then they have to make more of who they are for.
We are there in the various Tea Party groups, leaderless, but not rudderless.
We steer always toward the Constitutional principles this nation was founded upon.
Erick Brockway
I’ve gone from
“Hope and Change” to
“Hopeless and Changeless”
Nope....
Toby Calvert-Lee (Diary) Thursday, June 16th at 9:52PM EDT (link)He can’t give any backup because Perry has a great record. He’s one of the most pro-growth, anti-big-gvernment Conservative governors with a proven record of success out there. That’s why he should be our next President.
Your friend and fellow Conservative in the fight
– Toby Calvert-Lee
Twitter: @TobyCalvertLee
Rick Perry RINO Facts
cpaguy Friday, June 17th at 12:48AM EDT (link)I mean…I am living through the Perry era…but there is plenty you can find on the net. (I mean…I do have a job, unlike some here [acat...maybe?] who have joined the Perry campaign)
1. Perry Raised taxes:
http://www.politifact.com/texas/statements/2010/nov/01/rick-perry/gov-rick-perry-says-he-has-track-record-not-raisin/
2. Weak on Immigration (and what he has done…even yesterday are non-events):
http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/metropolitan/casey/7589518.html
http://www.thepoliticalguide.com/rep_bios.php?rep_id=56615334&category=views&id=20100510135128
3. Taking Away Freedom from Texans:
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2011/06/04/rick_perrys_gardasil_problem_110089-2.html
http://www.politifact.com/texas/statements/2010/feb/06/rick-perry/perry-says-hpv-vaccine-he-mandated-would-have-been/
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TJ1fkE_cFMQ&feature=player_embedded
4. Cronyism & Boondoggles:
http://www.backtobasicspac.org/
http://www.dallasnews.com/news/politics/state-politics/20100725-murky-land-deals-mark-gov.-rick-perry_s-past.ece
5. Eminent Domain:
http://www.handsoffourland.com/getthefacts/
Articles explaining the Misconceptions about Perry:
http://www.timesleader.com/opinion/Gov__Perry_rsquo_s_image_far_cry_from_reality_Richard_L__Connor_Opinion_06-12-2011.html
http://thenewamerican.com/usnews/politics/6984-rick-perrys-texas-record
General:
http://spectator.org/blog/2011/06/10/rick-perry-running#
I know…a lot of links…but you did ask…
Thanks. Now that wasn't hard now, was it.
gekster (Diary) Friday, June 17th at 12:57AM EDT (link)I will read and learn.
They say Republicans are for the rich, Democrats are for the poor.
If they need more voters,
then they have to make more of who they are for.
We are there in the various Tea Party groups, leaderless, but not rudderless.
We steer always toward the Constitutional principles this nation was founded upon.
Erick Brockway
I’ve gone from
“Hope and Change” to
“Hopeless and Changeless”
CPAGUY - I posted links and facts to refute many of your old assertions
izoneguy (Diary) Friday, June 17th at 1:39AM EDT (link)CPAGUY – I posted links and facts to refute many of your old assertions
Don’t link back to liberal swill from 2002 – most of what you posted has a liberal bias written all over it.
Here are some more links for ya cha, cha…..
Run, Rick, run!
http://www.scrippsnews.com/node/62317
2011 Budget Shortfall
http://www.texastribune.org/texas-taxes/2011-budget-shortfall/about/
Audio: Perry’s Speech at the Manhattan GOP Event
http://www.texastribune.org/texas-politics/texas-political-news/audio-perrys-speech-at-the-manhattan-gop-event/
Video: Perino, Trippi Size Up Perry Candidacy
http://www.texastribune.org/texas-people/rick-perry/video-perino-trippi-size-perry-candidacy/
In a “Power Play Live” webcast posted on Fox News’ website today, host Chris Stirewalt discusses the GOP’s fast-growing fascination with Perry’s potential presidential candidacy with President George W. Bush’s former press secretary, Dana Perino, and Democratic strategist Joe Trippi. “The only person I see in the mix who could seriously challenge (Mitt Romney) looks like Rick Perry,” Stirewalt declared, in light of a new WSJ/NBC poll showing Perry ranks fourth without even declaring whether he’s running. He said Perry could only clinch the nominiation if he can rally the conservative right (i.e. Rep. Michele Bachmann’s supporters) to his side.
Would a Rick Perry Campaign Ruin Romney’s Chances?
http://nymag.com/daily/intel/2011/06/would_a_rick_perry_campaign_ru.html
The L.A. Times points out that “Perry’s state has created more new American jobs in the last four years alone than all the other 49 states combined,” a soundbite-ready stat. He also didn’t back a universal health-care bill and isn’t a Mormon — which might be even bigger selling points in the GOP primaries. If Perry opts in, skipping Iowa might be a move that Romney will live to regret.
Rick Perry’s Tenth Commandment
http://www.nationalreview.com/articles/265309/rick-perry-s-tenth-commandment-kevin-d-williamson?page=1
http://twitter.com/#!/governorperry
Those who had once simpered: “I don’t want to destroy the rich, I only want to seize a little of their surplus to help the poor, just a little, they’ll never miss it!” – then, later, had snapped: “The tycoons can stand being squeezed; they’ve amassed enough to last them for three generations” – then, later, had yelled: “Why should the people suffer while businessmen have reserves to last a year?” – now were screaming: “Why should we starve while some people have reserves to last a week?” – Atlas Shrugged
Cheerleading
cpaguy Friday, June 17th at 1:58AM EDT (link)I look at Perry’s history. Like many should have done with Obama, we should look at a person’s history, not wha they say in the months leading to an election.
Also, I did not cite one thing from 2002.
I assume you are not a paid cheerleader for Perry…so please look at the guy’s record.
If you are fine with it, then more power to you. However, if you want somebody with more conservative bona fides…you might be wise to look elsewhere…..lest you look dumbfounded like all the Obama fans are now….thought they were getting what Obama told them they were getting, rather than what his record indicated.
You know what your problem is, cpaguy?
Neil Stevens (Diary) Friday, June 17th at 2:01AM EDT (link)You’re assuming anyone who disagrees with you is ignorant.
Therefore arguing with you is a waste of time and people should just ignore you.
RS contributing editor and “a hardy variety of crabgrass.”
Read the RedState Posting Rules
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Assumptions
cpaguy Friday, June 17th at 2:07AM EDT (link)Why would you make that assumption?
You could easily enhance the debate a little…rather than make attacks with no basis.
However, the facts are on my side in regards to Perry. There is nothing wrong with setting the record straight…when it comes to somebody’s record.
I assume that if Perry were to run for President, he would be doing so based upon his performance as Texas governor.
As such, I think it is fair game to review his entire record, not just his rhetoric during the campaign season.
So why do you think you're the only one who has done so? (nt)
Neil Stevens (Diary) Friday, June 17th at 2:29AM EDT (link)RS contributing editor and “a hardy variety of crabgrass.”
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“I rejoice that America has resisted.” – William Pitt, the Elder
Cheerleading
cpaguy Friday, June 17th at 1:58AM EDT (link)I look at Perry’s history. Like many should have done with Obama, we should look at a person’s history, not wha they say in the months leading to an election.
Also, I did not cite one thing from 2002.
I assume you are not a paid cheerleader for Perry…so please look at the guy’s record.
If you are fine with it, then more power to you. However, if you want somebody with more conservative bona fides…you might be wise to look elsewhere…..lest you look dumbfounded like all the Obama fans are now….thought they were getting what Obama told them they were getting, rather than what his record indicated.
Heh, I wish I could get paid
izoneguy (Diary) Friday, June 17th at 2:16AM EDT (link)But I do this for free. I assume you are getting paid by Obama or Romney or both?
Politics is a dirty business and Obama and his cronies are going to throw everything at the Republican nominee. Rick Perry – warts and all is the only one I see that can defeat Obama. Period.
Those who had once simpered: “I don’t want to destroy the rich, I only want to seize a little of their surplus to help the poor, just a little, they’ll never miss it!” – then, later, had snapped: “The tycoons can stand being squeezed; they’ve amassed enough to last them for three generations” – then, later, had yelled: “Why should the people suffer while businessmen have reserves to last a year?” – now were screaming: “Why should we starve while some people have reserves to last a week?” – Atlas Shrugged
Also, I did not cite one thing from 2002. - The man behind the Back to Basics PAC
izoneguy (Diary) Friday, June 17th at 2:28AM EDT (link)CPAGUY – are you suggesting with this website that Texas stop building roads? The feds are broke – the democrats cannot keep borrowing money and then reward their union buddies with millions in construction contracts. How do you propose that roads get built in the fastest growing State in America?
Maybe with Cow Farts & Unicorns?
The Back to Basics PAC, which has been running a series of despicable ads against Gov Rick Perry, is bankrolled by a liberal trial lawyer in Houston. Listen to this audio to find out about him and his agenda.
Interview with Democratic Donor Steve Mostyn
Already the state’s single largest Democratic donor this campaign cycle, Houston attorney Steve Mostyn has pledged to give Texas Democrats and their causes at least $3 million this year, and says he has no intention of stopping. The man behind the new Back to Basics PAC and those “coward” ads sits down with the Tribune to explain why he feels the need to give, the influence of money in Texas politics, how ‘trial lawyer’ became a bad word, and what he really thinks of the Democrats chances this fall.
Those who had once simpered: “I don’t want to destroy the rich, I only want to seize a little of their surplus to help the poor, just a little, they’ll never miss it!” – then, later, had snapped: “The tycoons can stand being squeezed; they’ve amassed enough to last them for three generations” – then, later, had yelled: “Why should the people suffer while businessmen have reserves to last a year?” – now were screaming: “Why should we starve while some people have reserves to last a week?” – Atlas Shrugged
So Opponents Always Lie?
cpaguy Friday, June 17th at 12:34PM EDT (link)Perry has a lot of enemies from conservatives to liberals. They aren’t all lying. Especially when both camps are hammering on the same issues.
You can cheerlead for Perry till your face is blue. It won’t change the facts of Perry’s troubling record.
He's cheerleading for Perry...
gekster (Diary) Friday, June 17th at 1:01PM EDT (link)with the same enthusiasim that you are cheerleading against him.
Instead of spending so much energy tearing down Perry, why don’t you put that effort into building up who you DO like.
That would be time well spent.
They say Republicans are for the rich, Democrats are for the poor.
If they need more voters,
then they have to make more of who they are for.
We are there in the various Tea Party groups, leaderless, but not rudderless.
We steer always toward the Constitutional principles this nation was founded upon.
Erick Brockway
I’ve gone from
“Hope and Change” to
“Hopeless and Changeless”
Is CPAGUY Steve Mostyn or is CPAGUY a cheerleader for Mostyn and trial lawyers?
izoneguy (Diary) Friday, June 17th at 1:20PM EDT (link)His treasure trove of links is driven by a liberal trial lawyer who has a vendetta against Perry. Perry bodyslammed the trial lawyers with the new loser pays law.
Follow the links:
http://www.backtobasicspac.org/
http://www.mostynlaw.com/bio/steve.asp
http://www.thetruthaboutstevemostyn.com/
http://www.thetruthaboutstevemostyn.com/files/contributions.pdf
http://www.texaswatchdog.org/2011/02/texas-watchdog-to-democratic-megadonor-steve-mostyn/1297978639.column
I will support Rick Perry over sleazy trial lawyers – ANY DAY
Again, I ask is CPAGUY Steve Mostyn or is CPAGUY a cheerleader for Mostyn and trial lawyers?
Those who had once simpered: “I don’t want to destroy the rich, I only want to seize a little of their surplus to help the poor, just a little, they’ll never miss it!” – then, later, had snapped: “The tycoons can stand being squeezed; they’ve amassed enough to last them for three generations” – then, later, had yelled: “Why should the people suffer while businessmen have reserves to last a year?” – now were screaming: “Why should we starve while some people have reserves to last a week?” – Atlas Shrugged
ca'mon. now you know he won't say.
gekster (Diary) Friday, June 17th at 1:33PM EDT (link)If we see where he is coming from, it takes away his arguement.
I’m guessing his cpa part means cirtified public a…… er, accountant.
Yaa. Accountant.
(almost slipped there)
They say Republicans are for the rich, Democrats are for the poor.
If they need more voters,
then they have to make more of who they are for.
We are there in the various Tea Party groups, leaderless, but not rudderless.
We steer always toward the Constitutional principles this nation was founded upon.
Erick Brockway
I’ve gone from
“Hope and Change” to
“Hopeless and Changeless”
Is Izoneguy A Plant?
cpaguy Friday, June 17th at 8:47PM EDT (link)Izoneguy, you are on this website all day everyday (lately) attacking people like a Ron Paul fan would.
Perry is extremely flawed. You can’t just say…”oh…such and such thing was turned over by the legislature…so Perry shouldn’t be criticized.”
Just like with Obama, think about what happens when we let people whose actions differ from their rhetoric get a pass.
A person who thinks critically wouldn’t be spamming the threads with links to things that refer to a potential candidates rhetoric, rather than his actual deeds.
A person who thinks critically would not be attacking everybody who makes a comment that doesn’t praise Perry akin to our Lord.
Please settle down a little bit…and THINK…..don’t SPAM.
Funny...
Bill S (Diary) Friday, June 17th at 8:48PM EDT (link)A number of us have asked that about you.
“It’s such a fine line between stupid, and clever.” – David St. Hubbins
izoneguy is a respected poster.
gekster (Diary) Friday, June 17th at 8:51PM EDT (link)Now as for you, one Perry diary and you and a few others come out with water pistols a squirting, not so much.
They say Republicans are for the rich, Democrats are for the poor.
If they need more voters,
then they have to make more of who they are for.
We are there in the various Tea Party groups, leaderless, but not rudderless.
We steer always toward the Constitutional principles this nation was founded upon.
Erick Brockway
I’ve gone from
“Hope and Change” to
“Hopeless and Changeless”
People Like When People Agree with Them
cpaguy Friday, June 17th at 9:00PM EDT (link)Sure, you like a commenter that agrees with you. Just like Obama fans do.
However, please be cognizant of the facts. You can’t wish them away.
Obviuosly you havn't been around here long.
gekster (Diary) Friday, June 17th at 9:14PM EDT (link)I don’t agree with everyone, and izoneguy is one of many I at times don’t agree with.
You don’t have to agree with someone to earn thier respect.
He has earned his reputation as a respected poster.
[redacted]
They say Republicans are for the rich, Democrats are for the poor.
If they need more voters,
then they have to make more of who they are for.
We are there in the various Tea Party groups, leaderless, but not rudderless.
We steer always toward the Constitutional principles this nation was founded upon.
Erick Brockway
I’ve gone from
“Hope and Change” to
“Hopeless and Changeless”
You Misunderstood
cpaguy Friday, June 17th at 9:18PM EDT (link)I was merely stating that people like people who currently have views that they have.
As such, it is no accident that you make a post stating that Izoneguy is a valued poster.
That is all well and good, however, that doesn’t change the actual facts of the situation or legitimze his flawed (frankly) viewpoint.
No, I did understand.
gekster (Diary) Friday, June 17th at 9:27PM EDT (link)Perry’s not even running and you have spent alot of time slamming him in hopes everyone will jump on your bandwagon.
Your arguements have been refuted and still you carry on inanely.
Are you the head of the anti-Perrybots.
You do have a couple of fans.
Get your own club together and have a field day.
They say Republicans are for the rich, Democrats are for the poor.
If they need more voters,
then they have to make more of who they are for.
We are there in the various Tea Party groups, leaderless, but not rudderless.
We steer always toward the Constitutional principles this nation was founded upon.
Erick Brockway
I’ve gone from
“Hope and Change” to
“Hopeless and Changeless”
Refuted?
cpaguy Friday, June 17th at 9:35PM EDT (link)Nothing has been refuted.
There is one bizarre Perry spammer who keeps commenting links about things that Perry has recently said (maybe his recent comments/actions have to do with an upcoming election…hmmm…sure not supported by the other 10 years), however, nothing about what he has actually done.
Please refute some of the negative Perry facts with something beyond…”I think he didn’t/or no longer means that. I trust him. Because the media says that Texas is great…and he is from Texas.”
I have supported Perry in the past for Governor of Texas (he is a better spitballer than KBH…and come on…White didn’t have a chance in hell…no matter how much he protested).
Given his past record, I do not think that Rick Perry is a good fit; when we need a leader to have a backbone, say unpopular yet factual things, and get this country headed back in the right direction.
If Perry is extremely flawed, then Romney is fatally flawed
JSobieski (Diary) Friday, June 17th at 9:34PM EDT (link)Romney’s crowning achievement just so happens to resemble the greatest threat that Obama has imposed on the nation.
Your comments are quite over the top.
Nobody is praising Perry “akin to our Lord”.
Way to create a straw man and then beat the tar out of it. Not really an impressive technique.
Why not talk about the positives of Romney’s record as governor? and worry less about an alleged cult that worships the current governor of Texas?
Did you know that China has been losing manufacturing jobs since 1995? For the specific data, see Table 1 in the following link: http://www.bls.gov/opub/mlr/2005/07/art2full.pdf
Not About Romney
cpaguy Friday, June 17th at 9:37PM EDT (link)This is not about Romney. This is about RICK PERRY.
They are both fatally flawed.
Did you see Romney at the New Hampshire debate? Just like Perry, he can speak a big game….he has to, because his record isn’t up to it.
Good to hear. An acknowledgement that it is about worship
JSobieski (Diary) Friday, June 17th at 9:42PM EDT (link)would also be good to hear.
I don’t see anyone arguing that Perry is flawless. We don’t have a flawless candidate, so the question is moot.
The relevant questions are rather who has learned from their mistakes and who is proven to be our best bet at conservative governance?
There is objectively speaking, no clear cut answer on that question. However, if one puts a lot of weight on executive experience, Perry may be the best governor running. That isn’t saying much, but it may nonetheless be true.
Did you know that China has been losing manufacturing jobs since 1995? For the specific data, see Table 1 in the following link: http://www.bls.gov/opub/mlr/2005/07/art2full.pdf
You Are Correct
cpaguy Friday, June 17th at 9:52PM EDT (link)It isn’t saying much.
As governor of Texas, his responsibilities are few (but he has managed to infringe upon the freedoms of Texans still!)
He has been governor for 11 or so years, was a Lt. Governor for a very brief bit, then was a Democratic Ag. Commissioner and head of the Al Gore Campaign of Texas (this was not forever ago).
He converted to the GOP to get the Lt. Gov spot…then lucked out into the governorship when Bush ended his term early.
What tells you that Perry has learned from his mistakes? You think because he gives crowds a bit of red meat in speeches over the past few months that he is somehow reformed. By that same token, we can all believe that Romney has learned and is now a stand up big “C” conservative.
In the smr token, what makes you think he didn't learn from his mistakes.
gekster (Diary) Friday, June 17th at 9:57PM EDT (link)I don’t know how many nt’s
They say Republicans are for the rich, Democrats are for the poor.
If they need more voters,
then they have to make more of who they are for.
We are there in the various Tea Party groups, leaderless, but not rudderless.
We steer always toward the Constitutional principles this nation was founded upon.
Erick Brockway
I’ve gone from
“Hope and Change” to
“Hopeless and Changeless”
oops, "same token"
gekster (Diary) Friday, June 17th at 10:00PM EDT (link)nother nt
They say Republicans are for the rich, Democrats are for the poor.
If they need more voters,
then they have to make more of who they are for.
We are there in the various Tea Party groups, leaderless, but not rudderless.
We steer always toward the Constitutional principles this nation was founded upon.
Erick Brockway
I’ve gone from
“Hope and Change” to
“Hopeless and Changeless”
Here is evidence to consider
JSobieski (Diary) Friday, June 17th at 9:58PM EDT (link)(1) He doesn’t go around bringing it up/speaking proudly about it
(2) He hasn’t tried to do anything similar since
If he is the best we have, I will vote for him.
If he is not the best we have (in terms of governors), then please do share who you think is better.
Did you know that China has been losing manufacturing jobs since 1995? For the specific data, see Table 1 in the following link: http://www.bls.gov/opub/mlr/2005/07/art2full.pdf
A plant? No I am not green
izoneguy (Diary) Friday, June 17th at 10:10PM EDT (link)Several people here know who I am.
I have been around for several years.
I noticed you popped on the scene when Rick Perry started being discussed.
And you never answered my question:
Are you Steve Mostyn? Do you work for Steve Mostyn?
Or do you just believe all the crap that Steve Mostyn
puts out on the web?
Answer 1.) YES
Answer 2.) NO YES
Answer 3.) NO NO YES
Answer 4. ) NO NO NO
Answer 5.) No comment
Those who had once simpered: “I don’t want to destroy the rich, I only want to seize a little of their surplus to help the poor, just a little, they’ll never miss it!” – then, later, had snapped: “The tycoons can stand being squeezed; they’ve amassed enough to last them for three generations” – then, later, had yelled: “Why should the people suffer while businessmen have reserves to last a year?” – now were screaming: “Why should we starve while some people have reserves to last a week?” – Atlas Shrugged
Steve Mostyn is backtobasicspac
izoneguy (Diary) Friday, June 17th at 2:50AM EDT (link)http://www.backtobasicspac.org/ is Steve Mostyn
and Steve Mostyn is backtobasicspac.
http://www.mostynlaw.com/bio/steve.asp
WHO IS STEVE MOSTYN? WHY IS HE TRYING TO KEEP THE $189 MILLION TWIA SETTLEMENT SECRET?
http://www.thetruthaboutstevemostyn.com/
http://www.thetruthaboutstevemostyn.com/files/contributions.pdf
So either CPAGUY is Steve Mostyn or CPAGUY works for Steve Mostyn.
What is it?
Those who had once simpered: “I don’t want to destroy the rich, I only want to seize a little of their surplus to help the poor, just a little, they’ll never miss it!” – then, later, had snapped: “The tycoons can stand being squeezed; they’ve amassed enough to last them for three generations” – then, later, had yelled: “Why should the people suffer while businessmen have reserves to last a year?” – now were screaming: “Why should we starve while some people have reserves to last a week?” – Atlas Shrugged
Border enforcement is a federal responsibility
izoneguy (Diary) Thursday, June 16th at 10:09PM EDT (link)Look at what happens to Arizona. They try to enforce border security and get sued.
They are many more Texans living on the border of Mexico than in Arizona.
Perry has called in more Texas troopers. Obama has left the borders states to fend for themselves. The problem has increased to an almost unmanagable state since Obama was elected.
Those who had once simpered: “I don’t want to destroy the rich, I only want to seize a little of their surplus to help the poor, just a little, they’ll never miss it!” – then, later, had snapped: “The tycoons can stand being squeezed; they’ve amassed enough to last them for three generations” – then, later, had yelled: “Why should the people suffer while businessmen have reserves to last a year?” – now were screaming: “Why should we starve while some people have reserves to last a week?” – Atlas Shrugged
Yes I know
cpaguy Thursday, June 16th at 9:08PM EDT (link)And I mentioned in my post that Perry has used the last10 years or so to do very little about the border.
He has put politics above the need of Texans.
He is only doing something now (and probably about the past 18 months or so too) because he fears the Tea Party more than the Hispanic Caucus.
As always, Perry puts his finger in the wind (and a lobbyist buddy in his back pocket).
Why does he need to cite sources?
e_rowe (Diary) Friday, June 17th at 1:57PM EDT (link)Every point he made is a matter of public record. If you weren’t aware of these things, take a few minutes and do your own research.
If anybody needs to cite sources it’s the people around here who mistake Perry for a conservative. He never has been anything close to one.
Not all of us live in Texas, e_rowe.
acat (Diary) Friday, June 17th at 2:07PM EDT (link)Nor do all of us have “a few minutes” to devote to researching every single candidate.
Asking for cites is reasonable in cases where the facts matter… like picking a president or senator (or governor, etc. etc.) .. it’d be great to find out now if Perry really does have any skeletons.
For example, you’ll want to cite why you think Perry isn’t a conservative. From my vantage point in Illinois, his record in Texas sure makes him look like one…
Mew
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Caveat Suffragator
How about his support for health care mandates?
e_rowe (Diary) Friday, June 17th at 2:10PM EDT (link)If that’s supposed to be a deal breaker for Romney, why give Perry a pass on it.
I listened to him talk about how proud he was of that in a gubernatorial primary debate last year, saying how he did it because he’s so “pro-life.”
Umm, which mandate did Perry support, e_rowe?
acat (Diary) Friday, June 17th at 2:20PM EDT (link)Let me say it louder since you appear to be hearing-impaired.
NOT ALL OF US LIVE IN TEXAS.
If you’re going to bring up issues, bring up links to them.
Mew
——
Caveat Suffragator
I posted the link at 2:12
e_rowe (Diary) Friday, June 17th at 2:32PM EDT (link)You posted this at 2:20.
Okay, you're still flogging the Gardasil skeleton.
acat (Diary) Friday, June 17th at 3:00PM EDT (link)Thought so, but wanted to be sure.
Sorry, no sale here.
I’ve already gone a few rounds on this issue with asthete and civil_truth, you can go look that up and see what I’ve already said.
In short, I reject your argument. In summary, statism via public health has crept well past the point that this makes any difference at all, and the kids who will be most likely to not opt out are the ones who are most likely to need this vaccination anyway.
I don’t see a problem here… other than the link between a vaccination for an STD and the socon “don’t talk about sex!” rule.
Mew
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Caveat Suffragator
Here's something on that "pro-life" comment
e_rowe (Diary) Friday, June 17th at 2:12PM EDT (link)http://blog.mysanantonio.com/texas-politics/2010/01/gov-perry-defends-hpv-order-as-pro-life/
btw, sorry about the snippiness of my first comment
e_rowe (Diary) Friday, June 17th at 2:17PM EDT (link)I guess my feeling is that the informality of a comment thread like this doesn’t lend itself to an expectation that people refrain from stating facts until they’ve hunted down a link to post.
If you look at the history, e_rowe...
acat (Diary) Friday, June 17th at 2:24PM EDT (link)You’ll see that what’s happened is cpaguy and izoneguy have both made statements about Perry.
cpaguy has been challenged to back them up, izoneguy has been backing his up with cites all along.
Since they are both saying pretty much opposite things about the same guy – Perry – it’s important for both sides to back up what they’re asserting.
In short, if an assertion is challenged, be prepared to bring the facts. Go read this lovely little article over at Ace of Spades to see one example of where not bringing the facts is important….
http://minx.cc/?post=317657
Mew
——
Caveat Suffragator
If you are going to make a claim about someone,
gekster (Diary) Friday, June 17th at 2:19PM EDT (link)You should back that claim up.
It’s the internet, and anyone can say anything.
I recently asked a guy to back up his claim when he called
Michele Bachman a backstabber. If true, I and others would want to know.
I repeatedly asked for his source, but he couldn’t provide one.
It was just a lame statement meant to rile.
It’s the internet, and anyone can claim anything.
But here, you’ve got to back it up.
They say Republicans are for the rich, Democrats are for the poor.
If they need more voters,
then they have to make more of who they are for.
We are there in the various Tea Party groups, leaderless, but not rudderless.
We steer always toward the Constitutional principles this nation was founded upon.
Erick Brockway
I’ve gone from
“Hope and Change” to
“Hopeless and Changeless”
Thank you CPAGUY
treasuregem Thursday, June 16th at 9:08AM EDT (link)Thank you cpaguy for clarifying Perry’s weak points. My son lives in TX and he says Perry is NOT well liked by his constituents. Being from NY, I’d heard wonderful statements of how he’s brought jobs to TX. After reading your list of Perry’s shortcomings, I can well agree he’s not as ‘good’ as purported. I especially don’t like his lax on immigration, mandated health-care AND eminent domain. Again, thank YOU for setting the record straight.
Again, thank YOU for setting the record straight
izoneguy (Diary) Thursday, June 16th at 9:18AM EDT (link)CPAGUY has an agenda. He is welcome to state his opinion.
Please do your own research and don’t believe everything you read.
Those who had once simpered: “I don’t want to destroy the rich, I only want to seize a little of their surplus to help the poor, just a little, they’ll never miss it!” – then, later, had snapped: “The tycoons can stand being squeezed; they’ve amassed enough to last them for three generations” – then, later, had yelled: “Why should the people suffer while businessmen have reserves to last a year?” – now were screaming: “Why should we starve while some people have reserves to last a week?” – Atlas Shrugged
Eminent Domain Bill Becomes Law
izoneguy (Diary) Thursday, June 16th at 9:22AM EDT (link)http://www.freestonecountytimes.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=451:eminent-domain-bill-becomes-law&catid=52:community
Landowners chalked up a big win recently at the Texas Capitol as Gov. Rick Perry ceremonially signed SB 18, the eminent domain bill, into law. Gov. Perry was joined by Joe Parker Jr., president of the Texas and Southwestern Cattle Raisers Association (TSCRA) and Dave Scott, immediate past president of TSCRA.
Eminent domain reform has been a top priority of TSCRA for the past 3 legislative sessions.
“Today is a proud day for Texas landowners,” said Parker. “After years of hard work, Texas has new eminent domain law that will protect the private property rights of Texans; something TSCRA has been working toward for a very long time.
“TSCRA would like to thank the Texas Legislature, Gov. Perry, Lt. Gov. David Dewhurst, Speaker Joe Straus, and all who worked hard to ensure this bill become law,” said Parker.
SB 18 reforms the eminent domain laws in Texas by requiring the following:
* A public and record vote to initiate eminent domain proceedings.
* Private property can be condemned only for public use, not private use.
* All entities with eminent domain authority must register with the Comptroller by December 2012.
* Condemning entities must make a bona fide offer in writing and if not, pay the landowner’s expenses and attorney fees.
* Landowners will be compensated for damages from a loss of direct access to their property. Landowners will receive relocation assistance when forced to move off of their property.
* Under certain conditions, landowners will have the right to repurchase their condemned land at the original price if it is not used for the public use it was condemned for within 10 years.
Those who had once simpered: “I don’t want to destroy the rich, I only want to seize a little of their surplus to help the poor, just a little, they’ll never miss it!” – then, later, had snapped: “The tycoons can stand being squeezed; they’ve amassed enough to last them for three generations” – then, later, had yelled: “Why should the people suffer while businessmen have reserves to last a year?” – now were screaming: “Why should we starve while some people have reserves to last a week?” – Atlas Shrugged
Perry campaign says in blog that Trans-Texas Corridor is dead
izoneguy (Diary) Thursday, June 16th at 9:29AM EDT (link)(And this is from left-leaning Politifact)
Perry campaign says in blog that Trans-Texas Corridor is dead
http://www.politifact.com/texas/statements/2010/jan/18/rick-perry/perry-campaign-says-blog-trans-texas-corridor-dead/
However, two years earlier, in 2007, the Legislature dealt a major blow to one of the main tenets of the TTC — for the state to issue long-term leases to private companies to build and operate toll roads — by placing a moratorium on new public-private toll road partnerships, with several exceptions. That moratorium in effect became permanent last year when the Legislature failed to extend the authority for such leases beyond Sept. 1, 2009.
The roads in the corridor plan technically could be built without public-private partnerships, but the state doesn’t have the money to do so. In any case, rural opposition to building any sort of twin roads to interstates was at the heart of the plan’s collapse.
The I-69 initiative was one of the exceptions to the moratorium, but only a section of the approximately 600-mile road, the piece south of Refugio, can be a public-private partnership. And Chris Lippincott, a TxDOT spokesman, said that the decisions about exactly where the road will go and whether it will be tolled have not yet been made. The Texas Transportation Commission ordered that the road be laid down over existing highways, with free frontage roads alongside, except in areas where there is not an existing highway. This is much different from the original Perry concept of entire new road, rail and utility corridors.
Texas still has a long-term transportation plan, but it’s not the TTC. In a January 2009 statement describing the changes being made to TTC, Amadeo Saenz, executive director of TxDOT, said that the new plan would be called Innovative Connectivity in Texas/Vision 2009 and that any projects that had existed under TTC, such as an I-35 twin, would be developed individually, if they happened at all.
Summing up: We found that some language in the state Transportation Code and the much-altered highway I-69 project survive from Perry’s original TTC vision. But its centerpiece paralleling I-35 is truly dead, and beyond that, the corridor plan retains only a faint statutory pulse. We rate Perry’s statement as Mostly True.
Those who had once simpered: “I don’t want to destroy the rich, I only want to seize a little of their surplus to help the poor, just a little, they’ll never miss it!” – then, later, had snapped: “The tycoons can stand being squeezed; they’ve amassed enough to last them for three generations” – then, later, had yelled: “Why should the people suffer while businessmen have reserves to last a year?” – now were screaming: “Why should we starve while some people have reserves to last a week?” – Atlas Shrugged
State budget cutting billions heads to Perry
izoneguy (Diary) Thursday, June 16th at 9:40AM EDT (link)http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/metropolitan/7585876.html
Read the whole article – democrats are beside themselves. They think the world is ending because taxes are not being raised. Cut, cut, cut…..
Rick Perry is setting an example for what the Federal Gocernment should do.
Senate Finance Committee Chairman Steve Ogden, R-Bryan – “We have made significant funding reductions … not because we wanted to, but because the economy and the voting public demanded it.”
Those who had once simpered: “I don’t want to destroy the rich, I only want to seize a little of their surplus to help the poor, just a little, they’ll never miss it!” – then, later, had snapped: “The tycoons can stand being squeezed; they’ve amassed enough to last them for three generations” – then, later, had yelled: “Why should the people suffer while businessmen have reserves to last a year?” – now were screaming: “Why should we starve while some people have reserves to last a week?” – Atlas Shrugged
Perry just polled at over 55% favorable in his state
PowerToThePeople (Diary) Thursday, June 16th at 10:02PM EDT (link)so not sure where you get he is not liked in the state. Does your son live in Austin, it would explain his comment.
Thank you
Toby Calvert-Lee (Diary) Thursday, June 16th at 10:08PM EDT (link)I’ve been trying to make that point for a while
Your friend and fellow Conservative in the fight
– Toby Calvert-Lee
Twitter: @TobyCalvertLee
Read This...
Toby Calvert-Lee (Diary) Thursday, June 16th at 10:04PM EDT (link)http://pajamasmedia.com/tatler/2011/06/15/rick-perry-is-not-the-second-coming-of-bush/?singlepage=true
and watch these
http://nation.foxnews.com/your-world-neil-cavuto/2011/06/14/perry-rips-prostitution-constitution
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JYpJ65T3NmY
This guy’s the real deal.
Your friend and fellow Conservative in the fight
– Toby Calvert-Lee
Twitter: @TobyCalvertLee
Education Policy??
astrojohn8 Thursday, June 16th at 8:51AM EDT (link)Hmmm, I searched that old, amtiquated Constitution of ours to find where the Federal Government has anything to do with education—seems to be missing…
You are
texan4america Thursday, June 16th at 9:26AM EDT (link)absolutely right. The Constitution does not address the education system; therefore it is left to State’s rights. States need to start enforcing their rights according to the Constitution. The central gov’t has “taken over” numerous matters that should be left to the States. About time States started standing their ground and demanding their rights.
Texan4America
Dept. of Ed.
oldbird77 Thursday, June 16th at 9:59AM EDT (link)Should be one of the easiest targets for elimination in the government. Exactly what value do they provide? Let the counties and states run their own schools. The Feds should get out of it. If there is a program or two that is determined to have value, move it to Commerce…You could probably do the same with the Dept of Energy, move the good parts to Commerce and eliminate the rest.
The Dept. of Ed. long ago devolved into a Lib jobs program.
acat (Diary) Thursday, June 16th at 10:04AM EDT (link)Libs working in D.C. office buildings request reports from Libs working in school districts.
The districts can’t produce these reports without adding staff, so the Libs in D.C. demand more money and send it to the districts, who use it to pay the salaries of the Libs producing reports.
Sounds like a great opportunity to save money to me …
Mew
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Perry-prog in conservatives clothing?
robobbob Thursday, June 16th at 9:07AM EDT (link)Sure, Perry says some of the right things some of the time. Good, he turned down some filth lucre from the statists. But does that make him a standard bearer worthy of conservative votes? Where does he stand on the Texas Highway corridor? What about his turning a blind eye to illegal immigration. Am I allowed to mention “Bilderberg” on Red State? Are Perry and Romney just bookends whose purpose is to diffuse the conservative movement?
America is on the brink and needs a real champion on conservative ideas. Not more dem-light progressiveness with rightist window dressing.
Robobbob, please expand....
treasuregem Thursday, June 16th at 9:14AM EDT (link)Robobbob, please expand on your ‘hints’ of Bilderberg and Red State. Any info is appreciated.
Bilderbergs, huh?
Moe Lane (Diary) Thursday, June 16th at 9:49AM EDT (link)Sparky, that Alex Jones junk will seriously [expletive deleted] up your head.
Blam.
The Kim Kardashian of blogging.
Check out my blog at http://moelane.com/.
http://moelane.com/filthy-lucre-filthy-lucre/
http://twitter.com/moelane
My (combined) wish list.
Perry is clearly taking fire. Could he be over a target? [nt]
acat (Diary) Thursday, June 16th at 11:03AM EDT (link)——
Caveat Suffragator
Bombs away
izoneguy (Diary) Thursday, June 16th at 11:18AM EDT (link)Those who had once simpered: “I don’t want to destroy the rich, I only want to seize a little of their surplus to help the poor, just a little, they’ll never miss it!” – then, later, had snapped: “The tycoons can stand being squeezed; they’ve amassed enough to last them for three generations” – then, later, had yelled: “Why should the people suffer while businessmen have reserves to last a year?” – now were screaming: “Why should we starve while some people have reserves to last a week?” – Atlas Shrugged
Rick Perry will win the election
steveinfl Thursday, June 16th at 9:11AM EDT (link)Rick Perry is so far ahead of the field, it’s not even close. Look, when you are able to change the textbooks to accurately reflect the truth of our American history, then you get it. You know what is going on. You’re not debating whether global warming is real or not, You didn’t dabble in cap and trade and change your mind. You didn’t wreck a state economy by slapping a mandated health care debacle down the people’s throats. You obviously “get it” about the importance of becoming Israel’s ally again, instead of her enemy, as has been practiced by the Obama Regime.
This is who we’ve been waiting for.
You
texan4america Thursday, June 16th at 9:27AM EDT (link)could be absolutely right. I will hold my opinion until a little later in the debate.
Texan4America
Perry/West
carolynr Thursday, June 16th at 9:47AM EDT (link)This is a perfect combination. Has anyone really listened to Col. West. This guy is off the charts…good. He knows the military and yet is not a “hawk”. This would compliment Perry as far as foreign affairs. If not…I say Bachmann or Rubio.
We need someone that will stand up to Obama … not like the Republicans in the Senate.
Sorry, ever since Col. West stood down on the Obamacare issue ..
acat (Diary) Thursday, June 16th at 10:06AM EDT (link)… I have made a tactical retreat from supporting him.
Mew
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Perry/Jindal 2012
izoneguy (Diary) Thursday, June 16th at 10:33AM EDT (link)Bobby Jindal on Obama Care
http://exposingliberallies.blogspot.com/2009/07/bobby-jindal-on-obama-care.html
Jindal: Take Your Obamacare Exchanges And Stick ‘Em Where The Sun Don’t Shine
http://thehayride.com/2011/03/jindal-take-your-obamacare-exchanges-and-stick-em-where-the-sun-dont-shine/
Meet The Press Bobby Jindal Rejecting Stimulus Money
Governor Jindal Discusses Oil Spill Response
Those who had once simpered: “I don’t want to destroy the rich, I only want to seize a little of their surplus to help the poor, just a little, they’ll never miss it!” – then, later, had snapped: “The tycoons can stand being squeezed; they’ve amassed enough to last them for three generations” – then, later, had yelled: “Why should the people suffer while businessmen have reserves to last a year?” – now were screaming: “Why should we starve while some people have reserves to last a week?” – Atlas Shrugged
I'd also be fine with several other permutations...
acat (Diary) Thursday, June 16th at 11:02AM EDT (link)Perry/Bachmann or Perry/Pawlenty would play nicely in the upper midwest, and that’s going to be a battleground again… Bonus, Bachmann and Pawlenty are young enough that they could consider runs under their own banner in 2016 or 2020. (okay, more of a bonus for Bachmannn…)
Perry/Cain would work very well in the Southeast, where Herman’s radio show provides a built-in fan base.
I could also see Perry/Barbour or Perry/Daniels, if Perry thinks he needs some additional outreach to the inside-the-beltway bunch….
I do like Perry/Jindal, though. I’ve been impressed with Jindal all along, just waiting for him to make a move on the national scene…. The only concern is that Texas and Louisiana are both quite southern .. and regional tickets don’t tend to do well.
Perry is not my current favorite .. but his combination of experience as governor of Texas and his rep as a dynamic public speaker would make him a very formidable primary and general election candidate … if he gets in.
(this is, by the way, the reason I think some of the recent new posters have nothing but anti-Perry drivel to say .. their only hope is to peel off support for a Perry candidacy early among conservatives … before it’s too late to stop him)
Mew
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Perry/Bachmann
Toby Calvert-Lee (Diary) Friday, June 17th at 1:11AM EDT (link)Those are two solid Conservatives, and it would give us play in the rust belt, which we need electorally, and Perry brings strong support from Hispanics while still being strong on the Immigration issue. Best electoral Conservative strategy
Your friend and fellow Conservative in the fight
– Toby Calvert-Lee
Twitter: @TobyCalvertLee
I would support that combination with
runner12 (Diary) Thursday, June 16th at 2:01PM EDT (link)emthusiasm. I have impressed with Jindal and his record in Lousiana. He is about as solid as a conservative as you can get and sincerely appears more interested in being a good governor in Loiusiana than ambitious for power.
As for Perry, this attack on him for his stance on education makes me like him all of the more. He is 100% correct that the Feds should have as little to do as possible with our educational system. I for one would be thrilled to see The Dept. of Education be abolished or drastically reduced.
May I also add that as a near neighbor of Texas, my state loses untold amounts of teachers to Texas. Why? Because of the quality of their education system.
Typo, that would be Louisiana (nt)
runner12 (Diary) Thursday, June 16th at 2:02PM EDT (link)My wife is a substitute teacher in Plano
izoneguy (Diary) Thursday, June 16th at 3:30PM EDT (link)She tried for years to get a full time teaching job.
She is almost 50 now and the district prefers to hire them young
and brake them in. She went to a hiring fair last year and there were
40 applicants for every job available. The bad you hear about Texas schools
is pure left wing spin. The schools here are not perfect – but what is?
Those who had once simpered: “I don’t want to destroy the rich, I only want to seize a little of their surplus to help the poor, just a little, they’ll never miss it!” – then, later, had snapped: “The tycoons can stand being squeezed; they’ve amassed enough to last them for three generations” – then, later, had yelled: “Why should the people suffer while businessmen have reserves to last a year?” – now were screaming: “Why should we starve while some people have reserves to last a week?” – Atlas Shrugged
I spent a decade one year in Plano...nt.
NightTwister (Diary) Thursday, June 16th at 3:38PM EDT (link)“Baseball fits America well because it expresses our longing for the rule of law while licensing our resentment of law givers.” ― Major League Commissioner of Baseball A. Bartlett Giamatti
I spent a week there one night.
acat (Diary) Thursday, June 16th at 3:42PM EDT (link)And it was during a cold spell .. only 90 degrees out at noon.
Mew
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Heh, Heh - it is only 94 right now....
izoneguy (Diary) Thursday, June 16th at 4:31PM EDT (link)Secret to living in Plano in the summer?
Have a pool.
I love hot weather. If it gets below 80 I put a jacket on.
Those who had once simpered: “I don’t want to destroy the rich, I only want to seize a little of their surplus to help the poor, just a little, they’ll never miss it!” – then, later, had snapped: “The tycoons can stand being squeezed; they’ve amassed enough to last them for three generations” – then, later, had yelled: “Why should the people suffer while businessmen have reserves to last a year?” – now were screaming: “Why should we starve while some people have reserves to last a week?” – Atlas Shrugged
The only time I saw 94 degrees
NightTwister (Diary) Thursday, June 16th at 5:47PM EDT (link)in the summer there was at 3:00am.
“Baseball fits America well because it expresses our longing for the rule of law while licensing our resentment of law givers.” ― Major League Commissioner of Baseball A. Bartlett Giamatti
I just got home from visiting Hell,
Melody Warbington (rwm52) (Diary) Thursday, June 16th at 6:13PM EDT (link)Grand Cayman. It was hotter the time I visited Plano.
High today was 96 in Birmingham, but felt like 98 with the humidity.
The woman saith unto him, I know that Messiah cometh (he that is called Christ): when he is come, he will declare unto us all things. (John 4:25)
I agree...
Toby Calvert-Lee (Diary) Friday, June 17th at 1:12AM EDT (link)The education issue ought to be left solely to the states, as a “once-size-fits-all” plan NEVER works
Your friend and fellow Conservative in the fight
– Toby Calvert-Lee
Twitter: @TobyCalvertLee
Kids are being educated as if it is 1961 not 2011
izoneguy (Diary) Friday, June 17th at 1:49AM EDT (link)Schools are boring. The teachers are boring. My kids learn more after school then they do sitting in a rigid classrooms all day. Throwing more money at teachers and building more schools is not the answer. The education system in America is fundamentally flawed. I don’t have all the answers but maybe the basics are all wrong. Why do we still print textbooks with out of date information? Less emphasis needs to be placed on testing and more on real world experiences. Most schools have become day care centers so parents can go and make a living. I would love to see the corporate world more involved in education. Washington D.C. cram downs are failing. Time to take the education decisons out of the hands of politicians.
Those who had once simpered: “I don’t want to destroy the rich, I only want to seize a little of their surplus to help the poor, just a little, they’ll never miss it!” – then, later, had snapped: “The tycoons can stand being squeezed; they’ve amassed enough to last them for three generations” – then, later, had yelled: “Why should the people suffer while businessmen have reserves to last a year?” – now were screaming: “Why should we starve while some people have reserves to last a week?” – Atlas Shrugged
Amen
Toby Calvert-Lee (Diary) Friday, June 17th at 1:37PM EDT (link)I actually had a post about this a few months back. It’s not compassionate just to throw money at a failing system that is being run into the ground by D.C. pols who have managed to run everything they get power over into the ground. Turn it back to the states. Oh, and by the way, its nice to have another arden pro-perry supporter here
Your friend and fellow Conservative in the fight
– Toby Calvert-Lee
Twitter: @TobyCalvertLee
I would pay money to see Jindal debate Biden
gpclaw Friday, June 17th at 3:17AM EDT (link)Neither one of them will even be accused of being lost for words!
All kidding aside, putting Jindal on the ticket creates a great opportunity to once again hammer team Obama over the head, on the issue of the gulf drilling ban. Jindal is uniquely qualified to speak on this issue, and we know he’s not afraid to go after it.
Also, going forward, our relationship with India will become more important. India looks to be our most natural ally in the region. Having a VP who can identify with the culture has some upside to it.
Let the Feds run Ed. Why not destroy everything?
johnt Thursday, June 16th at 10:34AM EDT (link)Let’s poke fun at education in hayseed yokel states, & follow the lead of Washington D C , NYS & NJ.
I might urge caution on just how much we attack our potential candidates. Right about now Warren Harding is looking good.
“a man’s admiration for absolute government is proportinate to the contempt he feels for those around him”. Tocqueville
Going Forward
leehazel Thursday, June 16th at 12:47PM EDT (link)Now that the LameStream media has made our primary choice for some of us (shades of 2008) we can get on with the real campaign. The one that features real people with real ideas. I am referring of course to the GOP/Tea Party candidates such as Palin, Perry, Bachmann et al.
As a footnote, I can not believe that Romney is an acolyte believing in the Global Warming Agenda. This pseudo religion as being implemented by the EPA is catastrophically destructive to struggling economies on a world wide basis.
The whole underlying concept of the influence of CO2 as a “heat energy storehouse” is fundamentally flawed and based on our knowledge of the laws of Physics it can’t work the way the pointy hat and wand crowd seem to think it will.
Forget Romney, he’s toast!
There are only three
Toby Calvert-Lee (Diary) Friday, June 17th at 1:14AM EDT (link)candidates I MAY consider of this field. My favorite is Perry, followed by Bachmann, and finally Palin. I think Palin would serve us all better if she went to the senate, built up Conservative bona fides, and ran in 2020 after media hatred of her will have died down a bit.
Your friend and fellow Conservative in the fight
– Toby Calvert-Lee
Twitter: @TobyCalvertLee
Well, well, well, - let's see - who would be against Rick Perry?
izoneguy (Diary) Friday, June 17th at 2:41AM EDT (link)Texas House passes ‘loser pays’ tort reform
http://pajamasmedia.com/tatler/2011/05/08/texas-house-passes-loser-pays-tort-reform/
‘Loser Pays,’ Texas Small Business Wins
http://www.nationalreview.com/corner/268436/loser-pays-texas-small-business-wins-stephen-demaura
Those who had once simpered: “I don’t want to destroy the rich, I only want to seize a little of their surplus to help the poor, just a little, they’ll never miss it!” – then, later, had snapped: “The tycoons can stand being squeezed; they’ve amassed enough to last them for three generations” – then, later, had yelled: “Why should the people suffer while businessmen have reserves to last a year?” – now were screaming: “Why should we starve while some people have reserves to last a week?” – Atlas Shrugged
This is great!
gpclaw Friday, June 17th at 2:59AM EDT (link)Not only does this prevent frivolous law suits against corporations, but ‘loser pays’ also protects the little guy. When a normal citizen brings a legitimate law suit against a well financed corporation, they can do so knowing that they don’t risk losing just because of a monetary disadvantage preventing them from seeing the case through to the end.
Why do we need another candidate who supports health care mandates?
e_rowe (Diary) Friday, June 17th at 2:00PM EDT (link)I thought that was supposed to be Romney’s biggest flaw.
Texas filed suit against ObamaCare
izoneguy (Diary) Friday, June 17th at 2:25PM EDT (link)You are comparing something that was not implemented to real laws on the books.
Rick tried mandating that HPV shots be given to girls. There was an opt out.
It was killed and Rick did not pursue it.
You cannot Opt Out of RomneyCare or ObamaCare.
The HHS is granting waivers for ObamaCare to favored parties.
Romneycare is bankrupting Massachusetts – Obamacare will bankrupt the country
http://daytontribune.com/romneycare-is-bankrupting-massachusetts-–-obamacare-will-bankrupt-the-country/75912/
Those who had once simpered: “I don’t want to destroy the rich, I only want to seize a little of their surplus to help the poor, just a little, they’ll never miss it!” – then, later, had snapped: “The tycoons can stand being squeezed; they’ve amassed enough to last them for three generations” – then, later, had yelled: “Why should the people suffer while businessmen have reserves to last a year?” – now were screaming: “Why should we starve while some people have reserves to last a week?” – Atlas Shrugged
It reflects what drives Perry's decisions
e_rowe (Diary) Friday, June 17th at 2:46PM EDT (link)Why did Perry support the HPV mandate?
His own explanation is that it’s because he’s “pro-life.”
So according to him, being pro-life entails support for positive law that requires girls to take this medicine that he, being the medical expert he is, thinks will somehow save their lives. It also requires that other tax payers pay for it. Even if girls can opt out (which means they’re required to take the medicine unless they first jump through some statist hoop to win back what is their natural right in the first place) the tax payers don’t get to opt out. It’s still tax payer funded health care.
And what other things does being pro-life entail that he will support? Are we supposed to believe that the HPV vaccine is the only product in the world that he thinks being pro-life obligates him to support a mandate for? If so, that must be some magical medicine. Or does the same line of reasoning obligate him to support much broader mandates given the opportunity?
Of, another explanation for his comment, and the one that I happen to think is most likely true, is that he was just saying whatever he had to say to put a conservative spin on his position. His support for that mandate had nothing to do with being pro-life and everything to do with corporate welfare for pharmaceutical companies.
But then, this too gets back around to the question of what really drives Rick Perry and whether or not it’s something that we can trust to guide him to conservative positions when he’s in the White House and the special interests are pushing him in the opposite direction.
So now being pro-life is a flaw, e_rowe?
acat (Diary) Friday, June 17th at 2:54PM EDT (link)That’ll be very interesting to the Red State editorial board, who make being pro-life a litmus test for anointing front page diarists…
Seriously, Perry made a mistake, but one that this cat is prepared to live with *if* he learned his lesson… that is, that this should have been handled by the public health system already in place and charged with handling this kind of vaccination.
Perry appears to me to have learned his lesson here.
Just so we’re clear, e_rowe, I don’t have some nieces and/or nephews due to HPV – One of my sisters who made some poor choices along the way couldn’t carry to term because of damage due to the virus so – for me – Perry’s pro-life argument is just fine.
Mew
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Caveat Suffragator
No. But lying about it is.
e_rowe (Diary) Friday, June 17th at 2:56PM EDT (link)Words mean things. “Pro-life” doesn’t mean supporting tax payer funded health care.
I guess Obama is your man then a_rowe
izoneguy (Diary) Friday, June 17th at 3:00PM EDT (link)Do you have daughters?
Get ready for ObamaCare – talk about a statist nightmare.
Those who had once simpered: “I don’t want to destroy the rich, I only want to seize a little of their surplus to help the poor, just a little, they’ll never miss it!” – then, later, had snapped: “The tycoons can stand being squeezed; they’ve amassed enough to last them for three generations” – then, later, had yelled: “Why should the people suffer while businessmen have reserves to last a year?” – now were screaming: “Why should we starve while some people have reserves to last a week?” – Atlas Shrugged
I could agree
PowerToThePeople (Diary) Friday, June 17th at 3:09PM EDT (link)that using tax payer dollars for the vaccines may not have been a wise choice, but I have no issue with him mandating the HPV vaccines as a condition for school. None at all. We already mandate numerous vaccines that allow the mass gathering of children to remain as safe as possible, this is no different. We already know that kids have sex, we know they are too stupid or too immature to worry about protection religiously, and HPV is a dangerous condition that can kill as Acat alluded to. Making sure that soon to be sexually active teens are vaccinated against a killer disease that can and will be transmitted to the partner due to the host person not informing the other person or even not knowing they are infected makes a lot of sense.
Regardless though, you are making a mountain out of a molehill regardless of whether your only complaint is the tax payer funding of the vaccines or the entire thing all together. It is just not that big of a deal one way or the other.
All that does is illustrate one more reason not to have public education. nt
e_rowe (Diary) Friday, June 17th at 3:45PM EDT (link)Well you get Public Schools ended
PowerToThePeople (Diary) Friday, June 17th at 4:23PM EDT (link)and I will revisit my opinion on the vaccines.
I'm just guessing that he's not on our short list... -nt-
Bill S (Diary) Friday, June 17th at 2:57PM EDT (link)“It’s such a fine line between stupid, and clever.” – David St. Hubbins
I presume I'm still on the "watch" list.
acat (Diary) Friday, June 17th at 4:10PM EDT (link)And if I’m not, I’d like a word with whomever took me off of it.
Mew
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Hehehe
Bill S (Diary) Friday, June 17th at 4:30PM EDT (link)Why, certainly!
“It’s such a fine line between stupid, and clever.” – David St. Hubbins
Also, it doesn't look to me like he learned his lesson
e_rowe (Diary) Friday, June 17th at 3:00PM EDT (link)He was still proudly defending his executive order just last year in the gubernatorial primaries.
My take on Perry is that he’s a pure opportunist, cut from the same cloth as Romney. Perry has the advantage of being from a relatively conservative state, where the results of his sticking his finger in the wind to see what position was advantageous for him on any given day happened to be better for conservatives than would have been the case had he been governor of MA. But that same shiftiness won’t work to our favor any more if he becomes POTUS. I would consider us lucky if he didn’t turn out even worse than G. W.
Ok, let me guess a_rowe - Ron Paul must be your guy?
izoneguy (Diary) Friday, June 17th at 3:03PM EDT (link)Give me Rick Perry over Obama and day of the week…..
Being “independent” or “moderate” or being a true so-con in 2012 will be hazadous to your health.
Those who had once simpered: “I don’t want to destroy the rich, I only want to seize a little of their surplus to help the poor, just a little, they’ll never miss it!” – then, later, had snapped: “The tycoons can stand being squeezed; they’ve amassed enough to last them for three generations” – then, later, had yelled: “Why should the people suffer while businessmen have reserves to last a year?” – now were screaming: “Why should we starve while some people have reserves to last a week?” – Atlas Shrugged
Yes.
e_rowe (Diary) Friday, June 17th at 3:41PM EDT (link)I want to support someone who has clear principles and can be counted on to stick to them consistently.
Rick Perry does not have that. Ron Paul does. You may think Perry is guaranteed to be so much better than Obama. But I don’t see any basis for that confidence.
I see. Now it comes out. A Paulbot.
gekster (Diary) Friday, June 17th at 3:47PM EDT (link)Ron Paul. Ron Paul. Ron Paul.
I knew there was something behind your disdain.
They say Republicans are for the rich, Democrats are for the poor.
If they need more voters,
then they have to make more of who they are for.
We are there in the various Tea Party groups, leaderless, but not rudderless.
We steer always toward the Constitutional principles this nation was founded upon.
Erick Brockway
I’ve gone from
“Hope and Change” to
“Hopeless and Changeless”
Yep. Principles matter to me.
e_rowe (Diary) Friday, June 17th at 3:50PM EDT (link)I notice we don’t see anybody here pretending that Perry has any.
So instead of tearing down Perry, why arn't you building up Ron Paul.
gekster (Diary) Friday, June 17th at 3:56PM EDT (link)If you agree with his principles, why not espouse them.
What do you have to win.
They say Republicans are for the rich, Democrats are for the poor.
If they need more voters,
then they have to make more of who they are for.
We are there in the various Tea Party groups, leaderless, but not rudderless.
We steer always toward the Constitutional principles this nation was founded upon.
Erick Brockway
I’ve gone from
“Hope and Change” to
“Hopeless and Changeless”
Why arn't you building up Ron Paul?
izoneguy (Diary) Friday, June 17th at 4:01PM EDT (link)Yeah???
Ron Paul is a nut.
He has as much chance as getting the nomination as a snowball on a hot day in July in Texas.
My brother is a Paul Bot. I think all the Ron Paul supporters should move to his district and build a compound.
Those who had once simpered: “I don’t want to destroy the rich, I only want to seize a little of their surplus to help the poor, just a little, they’ll never miss it!” – then, later, had snapped: “The tycoons can stand being squeezed; they’ve amassed enough to last them for three generations” – then, later, had yelled: “Why should the people suffer while businessmen have reserves to last a year?” – now were screaming: “Why should we starve while some people have reserves to last a week?” – Atlas Shrugged
This is a blog post about Perry
e_rowe (Diary) Friday, June 17th at 4:01PM EDT (link)I do hope to write a Ron Paul for President diary at some point. But you can probably understand why the kind of treatment Old Right conservatives have historically gotten here does not engender my putting that at the top of my to-do list.
I also don’t really see anything wrong with criticizing politicians. It’s part of what they bargained for.
First tribble of the year.
gekster (Diary) Friday, June 17th at 4:07PM EDT (link)tribble mantra:
I will tear down the other candidates while not even trying to promote my own.
Answer me one question, and then I’ll leave it at that.
Why does RP rail against government spending, but says nothing about the government money his state takes in.
Answer and I’ll leave it at that.
They say Republicans are for the rich, Democrats are for the poor.
If they need more voters,
then they have to make more of who they are for.
We are there in the various Tea Party groups, leaderless, but not rudderless.
We steer always toward the Constitutional principles this nation was founded upon.
Erick Brockway
I’ve gone from
“Hope and Change” to
“Hopeless and Changeless”
He does the one thing he can to stand up against government money his own state takes in...
e_rowe (Diary) Friday, June 17th at 4:10PM EDT (link)He votes against it, every single time. As far as I know, there’s not a single exception.
Even when it’s money to help his own district after a hurricane.
http://abclocal.go.com/ktrk/story?section=weather/hurricane&id=6428478
He votes against it when he knows his vote won't matter.
gekster (Diary) Friday, June 17th at 4:17PM EDT (link)Then he diludes people like you into thnking he is against spending.
That’s real principle right there.
They say Republicans are for the rich, Democrats are for the poor.
If they need more voters,
then they have to make more of who they are for.
We are there in the various Tea Party groups, leaderless, but not rudderless.
We steer always toward the Constitutional principles this nation was founded upon.
Erick Brockway
I’ve gone from
“Hope and Change” to
“Hopeless and Changeless”
He votes against it always.
e_rowe (Diary) Friday, June 17th at 4:21PM EDT (link)Find a counterexample if you think you can.
re-read above. he votes NO when it doesn't matter.
gekster (Diary) Friday, June 17th at 4:27PM EDT (link)He sees the pork bill is going to pass anyway, so he votes no and then touts how conservative he is.
Show me a vote where HE was the deciding vote AGAINST a pork bill.
I’ll wait why you try.
They say Republicans are for the rich, Democrats are for the poor.
If they need more voters,
then they have to make more of who they are for.
We are there in the various Tea Party groups, leaderless, but not rudderless.
We steer always toward the Constitutional principles this nation was founded upon.
Erick Brockway
I’ve gone from
“Hope and Change” to
“Hopeless and Changeless”
I don't know if he was ever the deciding vote, or why that matters
e_rowe (Diary) Friday, June 17th at 4:31PM EDT (link)He can’t control whether or not his vote is the deciding one. He can only control how he votes. He always votes against unconstitutional spending, whether he knows it will pass or not. As far as I know, there are zero exceptions to this. And as far as I know, no other senator or representative (except some who are new this year) can say that about their records.
Again, if you can find a counterexample, please show me.
e_rowe. search on bing: ron paul pork projects. 1,820,000 results
gekster (Diary) Friday, June 17th at 7:29PM EDT (link)(sorry for late reply, had to get dinner ready).
lets throw 1/3 duplicates 1/3 not related.
that leaves 6,0667 articles on Ron Paul pork.
from:
http://freestudents.blogspot.com/2007/07/ron-pauls-personal-pork-projects.html
excerpt:
Paul also argued that these special earmarks, used by Congressman to increase their own popularity at home, don’t add anything to the budget. The funding is already in the budget he says and the budget is not increased to compensate for them. But spending $400 million on pork, as Paul requested, still means the $400 million is spent. And, under the current budget, if it is spent, it contributes to the deficit that will, no doubt, mean higher future taxes. While agencies try to spend their full budget so they can request more the next year. There is some slim chance that funding allocated will not be spent. Earmarking makes sure the funds are spent.
from:
http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=73468
excerpt:
Many fiscally conservative bloggers are blasting a letter Rep. Ron Paul, R-Texas, an outspoken opponent of excess federal spending, sent to Alaskan Republicans endorsing in the state’s primary Rep. Don Young, R-Alaska, a congressman notorious for advocating the 2005 $223 million “Bridge to Nowhere” project.
from:
http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/washington/2009/03/ron-paul-defend.html
excerpt:
Ron Paul, the Texas congressman who is the darling of the Libertarian Right, has more earmarks in the pork-laden $410-billion spending bill than any other Republican.
and finally, from:
http://sayanythingblog.com/entry/ron_paul_breaks_gops_moratorium_on_earmarks/
excerpt:
Rep. Ron Paul (R-Texas) has been known to say “no” to party leadership frequently during the libertarian icon’s 11 terms in the House. But his recent decision to reject the House GOP’s earmark ban by requesting 41 projects totaling more than $100 million for his Congressional district may not be excused.
Paul is one of a handful of Members to publicly challenge the House GOP leadership by going forward with earmark requests just two weeks after the Republican Conference adopted a one-year moratorium on the spending practice. …
[Ron Paul] defended his decision to request projects, saying he needed to make sure his constituents benefited from their federal tax dollars. …
Paul said leaders were well aware of his opposition to the ban and his belief that earmarks increase transparency because the public can see where their federal dollars are being allocated.
“They asked me whether I would sign on to the moratorium, and I [s]aid no, it doesn’t fit my philosophy because I think we should designate every penny that we spend,” he said.
just four of many.
done with threadjack.
They say Republicans are for the rich, Democrats are for the poor.
If they need more voters,
then they have to make more of who they are for.
We are there in the various Tea Party groups, leaderless, but not rudderless.
We steer always toward the Constitutional principles this nation was founded upon.
Erick Brockway
I’ve gone from
“Hope and Change” to
“Hopeless and Changeless”
Theadjack alert!
civil truth (Diary) Friday, June 17th at 4:29PM EDT (link)This is a post on Gov. Perry not Ron Paul. Write your own diary if you want to expound on the merits of your favored candidate, and others here can engage you there if they wish.
The greatest evil…is conceived and ordered (moved, seconded, carried, and minuted) in clean, carpeted, warmed, and well-lighted offices, by quiet men with white collars and cut fingernails and smooth-shaven cheeks who do not need to raise their voice. Hence, naturally enough, my symbol for Hell is something like the bureaucracy of a police state or the offices of a thoroughly nasty business concern. -C.S. Lewis
Did you not read what I wrote just a few comments up?
e_rowe (Diary) Friday, June 17th at 4:32PM EDT (link)I wasn’t the one who brought up Ron Paul. Until others did, I was keeping it about Perry, and they didn’t like that.
No, you were being an anti-Perry zealot with no citations.
acat (Diary) Friday, June 17th at 4:36PM EDT (link)Someone asked who you supported, whether you supported Ron Paul, and you said yes.
At that point, the whole reason for your disdain for Perry became clear…. and ignorable.
Mew
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Caveat Suffragator
I only made on assertion about his record and I cited it.
e_rowe (Diary) Friday, June 17th at 4:48PM EDT (link)So which is it?
Am I only supposed to talk about Perry here (even though what I think of him is negative)?
Or am I supposed to talk about Ron Paul (whom others, not I, brought into this conversation)?
No, you asserted that being Pro-Life doesn't mean...
acat (Diary) Friday, June 17th at 5:15PM EDT (link)using tax dollars to pay for health care.
This is one of those sound bites that sounds really great … except that there’s no way it’s going to get passed, and even if it could, it’d be a disaster* of serious proportions. Taking away public funds without a thought to what would replace them is just irresponsible .. even if it sounds good.
As for what you did, your only anti-Perry cite was Gardasil – and I’ve already posted my position on that – it’s in keeping with the existing statist public health system. I’d like to see it removed .. but not so fast that we cause people to die unnecessarily nor so fast that we hand an easy win to the Dems. We need some strategery up in here.
Mew
* by “disaster” I mean people by the thousands dying due to no access to health care, not the inevitable Dem-incited media-driven “public relations disaster” for the GOP …
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Oh, but you did homer.
gekster (Diary) Friday, June 17th at 4:38PM EDT (link)Your words, “Rick Perry does not have that. Ron Paul does.”
They say Republicans are for the rich, Democrats are for the poor.
If they need more voters,
then they have to make more of who they are for.
We are there in the various Tea Party groups, leaderless, but not rudderless.
We steer always toward the Constitutional principles this nation was founded upon.
Erick Brockway
I’ve gone from
“Hope and Change” to
“Hopeless and Changeless”
Look again.
e_rowe (Diary) Friday, June 17th at 4:49PM EDT (link)That was in reply to someone else. Ron Paul had already been brought up, and not by me.
Ok, I'll give you that.
gekster (Diary) Friday, June 17th at 4:53PM EDT (link)But you are as loony as ron Paul.
And you don’t even make for a good tribble.
They say Republicans are for the rich, Democrats are for the poor.
If they need more voters,
then they have to make more of who they are for.
We are there in the various Tea Party groups, leaderless, but not rudderless.
We steer always toward the Constitutional principles this nation was founded upon.
Erick Brockway
I’ve gone from
“Hope and Change” to
“Hopeless and Changeless”
Here ya go e_rowe
Scope (Diary) Friday, June 17th at 4:52PM EDT (link)http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,292334,00.html
http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/front/6286883.html
“Rep. Ron Paul vehementally denounced the $410 billion catch-all spending bill approved last week by the House of Representatives.
But although the libertarian-leaning Republican from Lake Jackson cast a vote against the massive spending measure, his finger prints were on some of the earmarks that helped inflate it’s cost.”
Governor Perry’s record beats anything Ron Paul has ever accomplished. Governor Perry must really frighten the Paul supporters.
Ummmm, no.
e_rowe (Diary) Friday, June 17th at 5:05PM EDT (link)I asked for an example where he didn’t vote against the spending. You gave me another example where he did vote against it.
Also, the claim of that story is false. Earmarks do not inflate the cost of any budget. If you passed any budget with all the earmarks removed, it would be the exact same amount that it would be with the earmarks in it.
Apparently winning elections doesn't... -nt-
Bill S (Diary) Friday, June 17th at 4:01PM EDT (link)“It’s such a fine line between stupid, and clever.” – David St. Hubbins
I don't consider staying on the same basic trajectory our nation has had for the past century "winning" nt
e_rowe (Diary) Friday, June 17th at 4:04PM EDT (link)And I don't consider tilting at windmills anything but #Winning!
acat (Diary) Friday, June 17th at 4:22PM EDT (link)(see also Charlie Sheen)
Mew
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If you think the "trajectory" we've been on
Bill S (Diary) Friday, June 17th at 4:31PM EDT (link)since January 2009 is the same as where we were before Obama, you’re nuttier than Paul, and that’s saying something.
“It’s such a fine line between stupid, and clever.” – David St. Hubbins
It definitely is the same
e_rowe (Diary) Friday, June 17th at 4:33PM EDT (link)To say otherwise is delusional.
Yeah. Right.
Bill S (Diary) Friday, June 17th at 4:49PM EDT (link)Just the same.
http://blog.heritage.org/2009/03/24/bush-deficit-vs-obama-deficit-in-pictures/
Exactly the same.
Delusional is right, and you meet all the qualifications.
“It’s such a fine line between stupid, and clever.” – David St. Hubbins
Still don't see the difference.
e_rowe (Diary) Friday, June 17th at 5:02PM EDT (link)Is your point that Bush’s deficits were smaller? Is that supposed to be some consolation? We’re supposed to settle for a choice between two terrible things where the biggest difference you can point to is just a matter of the degree the do something?
Also, where’s the chart comparing the effect each president had on the feds’ future obligations? That’s far more serious of a problem than the current deficits, and I think it would show that Bush was in a league pretty close to Obama in the amount he added to that.
Frankly, Obamacare is nothing but the latest step in the same direction as any number of other steps that the government took going back 100 years. None of those things will be able to continue. One of two things will eventually happen: 1) the voters will wise up and elect people who will seriously roll back the government to a size that fits within the Constitution, or 2) the economy will eventually collapse under its weight. If we’re not going to strive to make option #1 happen, then I don’t see why it should matter whether the president has an R or a D after his name for option #2.
Rick Perry’s Tenth Commandment
izoneguy (Diary) Friday, June 17th at 4:04PM EDT (link)http://www.nationalreview.com/articles/265309/rick-perry-s-tenth-commandment-kevin-d-williamson?page=1
Those who had once simpered: “I don’t want to destroy the rich, I only want to seize a little of their surplus to help the poor, just a little, they’ll never miss it!” – then, later, had snapped: “The tycoons can stand being squeezed; they’ve amassed enough to last them for three generations” – then, later, had yelled: “Why should the people suffer while businessmen have reserves to last a year?” – now were screaming: “Why should we starve while some people have reserves to last a week?” – Atlas Shrugged
Rick Perry says Bush was guilty of 'big government' overspending
izoneguy (Diary) Friday, June 17th at 3:05PM EDT (link)Rick Perry says Bush was guilty of ‘big government’ overspending
http://www.dallasnews.com/news/community-news/dallas/headlines/20101108-Rick-Perry-says-Bush-was-guilty-2337.ece
Perry, speaking with reporters over breakfast in Washington, cited two of Bush’s signature presidential achievements – the Medicare drug benefit for seniors and the No Child Left Behind education law – as classic examples of burdensome, unaffordable policy.
“Those are both big government – but more importantly, they were Washington-centric,” Perry said. “One size does not fit all, unless you’re talking tube socks.”
Perry’s book, Fed Up! Our Fight to Save America From Washington, argues that Washington spends too much and has grabbed too much power at the expense of states. In it, Perry rejects Bush’s idea of “compassionate conservatism” and criticizes the bailouts he initiated two years ago to stanch the economic crisis.
While Bush gets high marks for “keeping us free and keeping us safe,” and history will judge him kindly, Perry said Monday, “it won’t be based on fiscal issues.”
Those who had once simpered: “I don’t want to destroy the rich, I only want to seize a little of their surplus to help the poor, just a little, they’ll never miss it!” – then, later, had snapped: “The tycoons can stand being squeezed; they’ve amassed enough to last them for three generations” – then, later, had yelled: “Why should the people suffer while businessmen have reserves to last a year?” – now were screaming: “Why should we starve while some people have reserves to last a week?” – Atlas Shrugged
Sadly, I Find Myself In Agreement(nt)
Repair_Man_Jack (Diary) Friday, June 17th at 3:09PM EDT (link)Mr. Obama is pretending that an economic “recovery” is underway when he knows damn well that the banking system is just blowing smoke up the shredded *** of what’s left of that economy – James Howard Kunstler
Wow. Rick Perry sounds a lot like what G.W. sounded like in 2000.
e_rowe (Diary) Friday, June 17th at 3:43PM EDT (link)If he gets elected, the similarities won’t end there.
Rick Perry sounds a lot like what G.W. sounded like in 2000
izoneguy (Diary) Friday, June 17th at 4:05PM EDT (link)Ah, the good old days…..
I would take Bush over Obama in a heartbeat.
Those who had once simpered: “I don’t want to destroy the rich, I only want to seize a little of their surplus to help the poor, just a little, they’ll never miss it!” – then, later, had snapped: “The tycoons can stand being squeezed; they’ve amassed enough to last them for three generations” – then, later, had yelled: “Why should the people suffer while businessmen have reserves to last a year?” – now were screaming: “Why should we starve while some people have reserves to last a week?” – Atlas Shrugged
Jeb Bush hasn't ruled out a run, has he? (paging Tbone)
acat (Diary) Friday, June 17th at 4:20PM EDT (link)Hoping the horn section will toot a correction here if Jeb is officially out….
Mew
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e_rowe- He is something you need to read
Scope (Diary) Friday, June 17th at 4:18PM EDT (link)though it seems you fall into the authors category of Paul supporters who are so far gone, they can never be recovered-
http://www.davidbahnsen.com/index.php/2011/05/21/the-undiscerning-and-dangerous-appreciation-of-ron-paul/
I've read it.
e_rowe (Diary) Friday, June 17th at 4:38PM EDT (link)No, I don’t fall into that category.
I have no problem with various quibbles people may legitimately have with Ron Paul. But if you put all those things on one side of a scale, and put any one of a number of things that every other candidate has against them on the other side, Ron Paul’s flaws are minuscule in comparison.
If you could show me another candidate who took a consistent stand against both the welfare state and the warfare state, I wouldn’t have any problem with your supporting them. But, with the possible exception of Gary Johnson, I don’t think there is one.
By the way, if you're a David Bahnsen fan, you should check out some of his late father's stuff. It's mostly excellent.
e_rowe (Diary) Friday, June 17th at 4:46PM EDT (link)Unfortunately, I think a lot of his best stuff I can’t link because it’s not available for free. But here’s an interview he did at the time of the first Iraq war (provided this is the right link).
www.youtube.com/watch?v=wO9Evf3hhZM
I don’t know if his son agrees with this position. But if he does, then he really has no good reason to support anyone else over Ron Paul this year.
e_Rowe If you read the article
Scope (Diary) Friday, June 17th at 5:10PM EDT (link)you will see that he is very much against Ron Paul, because he feels that he is fraudulently trying to take over the freedom movement, hence the article Title “The Undiscerning and Dangerous Appreciation of Ron Paul.”
I did read it
e_rowe (Diary) Friday, June 17th at 5:22PM EDT (link)I know he’s very much against Ron Paul. But I don’t know if he agrees with his late father on very much, especially on the Christian view of war. If he does, then he has no good reason not to support Ron Paul. The silly stuff he recites in that article is nothing compared to something like whether or not we get into a war with Iran, for example.
I also don't care about any so-called "freedom movement"
e_rowe (Diary) Friday, June 17th at 5:35PM EDT (link)I care about basic issues of right and wrong, not political parties and cliques like whatever Bahnsen thinks the freedom movement is.
All the Bushies & Rove supported KBH
Scope (Diary) Friday, June 17th at 4:07PM EDT (link)in the last Governors race against Perry. There is no love lost between Perry and the Bushes. Ron Paul made sure to get the dig in with Cavuto yesterday that “Perry is identified with the previous (Bush) administration and is very much the status quo.” There was no honesty to his statement, just a desire to incite those with BDS, which includes all of the liberals and most of Paul’s supporters. Funny thing, not that long ago Bush polled higher than Obama.
If you think Paul is a man of such honor, character and integrity, please explain his associations with the KKK, the skinheads, the John Birch Society, and especially his very close friendship and association with Lew Rockwell, the anarchist.
Cat happily agrees with Scope.
acat (Diary) Friday, June 17th at 4:18PM EDT (link)I’m certain this is a sign of the apocalypse. (grin)
I regard the disdain of the Bushies and RonPaul! as marks in Perry’s favor.
While Bush 2.0 was very good on pro-life issues, he was dreadful on immigration and fiscal issues….
Ron Paul is an old coot who stays in office by playing power politics with his pet pork projects. They’re always attached to bills that are very likely to pass, and that he subsequently votes against. He’s gaming the system and knows it. Ron Paul is just as much of an embarrassment to Republicans and Libertarians as Murtha and Rostenkowski were to the Dems …
Mew
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Gotta give scope a 5 also.
gekster (Diary) Friday, June 17th at 4:22PM EDT (link)Hey girl, hope you are doing well.
They say Republicans are for the rich, Democrats are for the poor.
If they need more voters,
then they have to make more of who they are for.
We are there in the various Tea Party groups, leaderless, but not rudderless.
We steer always toward the Constitutional principles this nation was founded upon.
Erick Brockway
I’ve gone from
“Hope and Change” to
“Hopeless and Changeless”
Hey gekster
Scope (Diary) Friday, June 17th at 5:16PM EDT (link)you still have any of that snow to send my way. LOL I’m already war weary with the 2012 election season, and they have not all declared yet.
I would have to say
Scope (Diary) Friday, June 17th at 5:14PM EDT (link)on the embarrassment scale, Paul would surpass Anthony Weiner, even though I doubt you’ll find any old porn queens come out with porn Paul tweets. Yuckyyyyy.
sorry- this post was to acat
Scope (Diary) Friday, June 17th at 5:17PM EDT (link)n/t
Cat caught and replied, Scope. [nt]
acat (Diary) Friday, June 17th at 5:29PM EDT (link)——
Caveat Suffragator
Weiner is just the latest iteration of Mel Reynolds...
acat (Diary) Friday, June 17th at 5:27PM EDT (link)Unfortunately, their kind are commonplace. Skeevy creeps.
Ron Paul is right up there with Bart Stupak, Jack Murtha, Dan Rostenkowski, a rightful heir of Boss Tweed and Tammany Hall.
Paul’s corruption may be of a different stripe, but it’s the same where it counts – make the deal, get the pork to the district, fool the voters…. I’m reminded of the song “The Sidestep” from a certain 1978 musical (and 1982 movie) set in Texas…
Mew
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Caveat Suffragator
I don't think he has any associations with the KKK or skinheads
e_rowe (Diary) Friday, June 17th at 5:25PM EDT (link)He does have associations with the John Birch Society and Lew Rockwell. Big deal.
I'm from Texas and I do not support Perry.
melissatx (Diary) Friday, June 17th at 2:32PM EDT (link)For the following reasons:
1. TransTexas Corridor. Eminant domain for a superhighway Texans do not need, nor do they want. It is another land grab that is a total waste of time and money and is out and out theft of the peoples private property. Read up on it.
2. Guardasil. I don’t care whether he pursued it or not, it should never have been mandated by him in the first place…the state of Texas does not have more say-so over my daughters body than I do.
3. Toll roads in Texas, not just the TCC, we are really getting double dipped on these.
4. Our border…..we need more than a sanctuary city bill, dadgummit we need our own Az immigration bill and protection on the border.
But a Constitution of Government once changed from Freedom, can never be restored. Liberty, once lost, is lost forever. John Adams
Does anyone read these threads before posting comments?
izoneguy (Diary) Friday, June 17th at 3:08PM EDT (link)Melissatx – go back and look at all the comments I have posted about these issues.
You are drinking the liberal Kool-Aid.
Those who had once simpered: “I don’t want to destroy the rich, I only want to seize a little of their surplus to help the poor, just a little, they’ll never miss it!” – then, later, had snapped: “The tycoons can stand being squeezed; they’ve amassed enough to last them for three generations” – then, later, had yelled: “Why should the people suffer while businessmen have reserves to last a year?” – now were screaming: “Why should we starve while some people have reserves to last a week?” – Atlas Shrugged
I'm from Texas and I do not support Perry.
melissatx (Diary) Friday, June 17th at 2:32PM EDT (link)For the following reasons:
1. TransTexas Corridor. Eminant domain for a superhighway Texans do not need, nor do they want. It is another land grab that is a total waste of time and money and is out and out theft of the peoples private property. Read up on it.
2. Guardasil. I don’t care whether he pursued it or not, it should never have been mandated by him in the first place…the state of Texas does not have more say-so over my daughters body than I do.
3. Toll roads in Texas, not just the TCC, we are really getting double dipped on these.
4. Our border…..we need more than a sanctuary city bill, dadgummit we need our own Az immigration bill and protection on the border.
But a Constitution of Government once changed from Freedom, can never be restored. Liberty, once lost, is lost forever. John Adams
Sanctuary City Bill
cpaguy Friday, June 17th at 11:11PM EDT (link)The bill is actually pretty weak (magnitudes less than Arizona). I don’t really see how it prevents sanctuary cities. It is tough on cities that try to make it easy for immigrants to avoid detection when they are in police custody…but that really isn’t the problem in Texas.
While some cities are weaker than others on the issue, there really aren’t any “sanctuary cities” of the kind you see in the West. Of course I’m not familiar with every town in Texas, so where these towns exist, they should be taken care of, but I don’t know how this bill really accomplishes that. Seems like rhetoric rather than action.
The problems are open borders and employers who hire illegals.
This is more of a political stunt than real action. This has nothing to do with Rick Perry (though I’m sure he’ll strut about given the legislations lofty name), This is all about the Texas legislature and the prelevance of squishies.
Also, yes, the highway commission needs to give all these dagnab toll roads a rest.
This comment thread is turning into a splinter extraction class
civil truth (Diary) Friday, June 17th at 5:09PM EDT (link)Meanwhile, the Democrats are arming themselves with a whole forest of beams…
Perspective, folks.
The greatest evil…is conceived and ordered (moved, seconded, carried, and minuted) in clean, carpeted, warmed, and well-lighted offices, by quiet men with white collars and cut fingernails and smooth-shaven cheeks who do not need to raise their voice. Hence, naturally enough, my symbol for Hell is something like the bureaucracy of a police state or the offices of a thoroughly nasty business concern. -C.S. Lewis
At the risk of giving unintended offsense, Civil ...
acat (Diary) Friday, June 17th at 10:43PM EDT (link)I’m reminded of John Belushi’s classic “Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor?” speech from Animal House.
It doesn’t matter. They’re on a roll.
I’ve seen posts from 2-3 mods and/or front-pagers so I know it’ll get shut down if it goes badly off the rails but .. this is just what’s needed – it’s either the innoculation Perry needs or it’s the knock-out punch he should receive.
I haven’t made up my mind whether Perry’s a good potential candidate or not, but I’m learning … So far, I have to say that I really like the enemies he’s acquired.
Mew
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So far, I have to say that I really like the enemies he’s acquired
izoneguy (Diary) Saturday, June 18th at 12:09AM EDT (link)acat – I think it is enemy he has acquired. I think it is the same person regurgitating the same old points. If that is all they have then bring it on.
The goal here is to crush Obama.
Those who had once simpered: “I don’t want to destroy the rich, I only want to seize a little of their surplus to help the poor, just a little, they’ll never miss it!” – then, later, had snapped: “The tycoons can stand being squeezed; they’ve amassed enough to last them for three generations” – then, later, had yelled: “Why should the people suffer while businessmen have reserves to last a year?” – now were screaming: “Why should we starve while some people have reserves to last a week?” – Atlas Shrugged
I have no problem with vetting candidates
civil truth (Diary) Saturday, June 18th at 12:22AM EDT (link)…especially after the 2010 election cycle. After all, we know that the Democrats will be well equipped with proctoscopes.
But there’s a difference between vetting vs. monomania vs. fibrillation – not to mention the whole Ron Paul threadjacks. At some point, you’ve just got to stop tossing chum into the water.
If people want to play jungle ball, I’m not in charge of the stadium lights. But I didn’t want to leave the stands without at least expressing exasperation.
If this type of discourse becomes the norm for the upcoming primary season, we’ll be in The Lady from Shanghai* mode long before the Republican Convention.
*whose climactic scene was an unforgettable tour de force
The greatest evil…is conceived and ordered (moved, seconded, carried, and minuted) in clean, carpeted, warmed, and well-lighted offices, by quiet men with white collars and cut fingernails and smooth-shaven cheeks who do not need to raise their voice. Hence, naturally enough, my symbol for Hell is something like the bureaucracy of a police state or the offices of a thoroughly nasty business concern. -C.S. Lewis
There's a reason it's called silly season, civil_truth.
acat (Diary) Saturday, June 18th at 12:31AM EDT (link)There’s also a very important reason why there’s some time between the start of the primaries, the “clinch”, the convention, and the general…. dealmaking and pouring oil upon the waters.
Bear in mind, during the 2008 race, Ron Paul supporters were banned on sight on Red State.
I wouldn’t worry about it too much. There’s always a couple johnny-one-note types in this crowd, and .. as I said .. I am impressed with Perry’s enemies list. The real one, I mean. Not cpaguy.
Mew
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What Others Say
sevenmack Saturday, June 18th at 9:52PM EDT (link)http://dropoutnation.net/2011/06/17/erick-erickson-learn-education-2/
When you're trying to make a name for yourself....
gekster (Diary) Saturday, June 18th at 10:04PM EDT (link)you try to take out the guy at the top of the totem pole.
note: not worth the read, imho
They say Republicans are for the rich, Democrats are for the poor.
If they need more voters,
then they have to make more of who they are for.
We are there in the various Tea Party groups, leaderless, but not rudderless.
We steer always toward the Constitutional principles this nation was founded upon.
Erick Brockway
I’ve gone from
“Hope and Change” to
“Hopeless and Changeless”