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Horserace for June 23, 2011

This week we find Jon Huntsman in the race officially. Rick Perry continues to look at getting in the race. And there’s a battle shaping up in Iowa.

I’ll get into it all and how the candidates are stacked up.

Michele Bachmann

The Congresswoman continues to be the leader of the anti-Romney pack right now. She dazzled the crowd in New Orleans and Minneapolis. She is giving strong speeches, but she’s also doing something very smart — going silent. The campaign is showing serious discipline that was not there just a few months ago.

This minimizes the “gaffe police” being able to embarrass the campaign, or try to, and it increases demand for the candidate. There is so much buzz about Michele Bachmann right now that the less she supplies in terms of appearances, the more demand there is for her. It’s a valuable commodity at this point and I suspect she’s going to be able to turn it into some serious fundraising.

Bachmann’s rise hurts Pawlenty and Cain in serious ways.

Herman Cain

Cain has rebounded nicely from last week’s debate. There is still huge interest in his campaign and his ability to wow and dazzle a crowd outpaces even Michele Bachmann. The downside for Cain is still policy. His campaign gets tired of people, including me, saying it, but the contrast between a Bachmann speech and a Cain speech is that Cain leaves the crowd with great one liners. Bachmann leaves the crowd with some powerful facts and figures.

The Bachmann campaign is throwing a wrench in Cain’s outsider, tea party fueled surge and he’s going to have to figure out a way to overcome it moving forward.

Newt Gingrich

Just when you thought all the wheels had come off the Gingrich campaign, more fell off. Newt is not, at this point, a viable candidate.

Rudy Giuliani

The Rudy buzz is gone, replaced by a Perry buzz. I don’t see him getting in now.

Jon Huntsman

His speech played well in the media, but the hits are going to keep coming. If conservatives do not soon rally around a candidate, Huntsman is going to be able to exploit it to his benefit. In New Hampshire, he is going to give Mitt Romney a run for his money.

If conservatives rally soon around a Pawlenty, Perry, Bachmann, Cain or other, Huntsman will have to fight Romney for the centrist wing of the party. That hurts Huntsman. Otherwise, Huntsman could play the field and we shouldn’t count him out. One thing to keep in mind though, according to the latest Gallup survey, the more Republicans find out about Huntsman, the less positive their views of him are. That’s not a good sign for him long term. He’ll have to rely heavily on independent voters and run the table with them.

Gary Johnson

This will probably be his last appearance in this list. No traction. No chance. Not worth the time and energy to write about him.

Ron Paul

Ron Paul will not be the nominee, but his ability to excite a base of youthful voters is something that continues to impress a lot of people who should know better.

Tim Pawlenty

Pawlenty’s campaign feels stagnant to me. That’s not a bad thing. He went down after the New Hampshire debate and is at least holding steady now. He’s got to start boosting his name identification, which I think is one reason he is up early with commercials in Iowa.

It’s a smart move on his part to go on now and start the acceleration of name ID. But then that is money he can’t get back. My guess is his fundraising is less than what they want, and there is a feedback loop of both low name recognition playing into low financing playing into low name recognition.

His stump speeches have gotten better and I still think without Perry in the race, he’ll ultimately become the anti-Romney crowds rally around. But the longer there is buzz about another candidate getting in, the longer it will take for that to happen.

Rick Perry

He’s not in yet, but he’s already making waves. I have no inside knowledge as to whether he’ll ultimately decide to get in, but the odds are looking good. It also looks like Perry won’t be in a position to announce anything until after the Texas legislature’s special session wraps up.

Mitt Romney

Romney continues to be the front runner, but part of me wonders if his play it safe strategy is ultimately going to hurt him. Right now, Romney is coasting with a third of the GOP electorate willing to support him. But that leaves two-thirds at play and I wonder if he’s reached his ceiling.

Some of his recent moves on global warming, Romneycare, etc. will continue to plague him along the way. But right now, it remains his race to lose and his willingness to go on and sound like he is in the general election with Obama ultimately helps him hone his message and keep up the air of inevitability.

Rick Santorum

With Michele Bachmann’s surge, the rational for a Santorum campaign diminishes daily and I don’t expect him to have either stellar fundraising numbers come out or the ability to sustain himself through the end of the year.

COMMENTS

  • BigRedConservative

    Huntsman is in with a shot. If he can prove that his record was anomalous, then I can see him winning Romney voters from the left and Pawlenty voters from the right. He also has the ability (missing in several candidates) to go face to face with Obama and not look a) weak (like Romney) or b) foolish (like Gingrich).

    I’m not saying he’s the perfect candidate. I’m not saying he’s the most conservative candidate. I am saying that he is an electable candidate.

  • lizabtha

    Meh, better the devil you know. That being, Barry O.

    If Hunty is the GOP candidate, I’ll vote for Barry. Might as well have done with it, if the GOP wants to win with a Hunty-type. Why on earth do you think Pawlenty-leaners would back Hunty?

    Did I read he ha about 100 folks at his campaign- launch in NYC? Now THAT’S electable! :P

  • Viator

    Perry, Giuliani, Gingrich, Huntsman but no Palin. Pretty lame.

  • gekster

    Palin has as of yet not announced a run for President.
    If and when she does, I am sure she will be listed.

  • gekster

    Correction. Announced and have stated an interest in running.
    Palin has done neither.

    I need another cup, Maa.

  • edintexas

    I believe I read that the majority of the folks attending Huntsman’s “roll out” were MSM people.

    I wouldn’t vote for Dear Leader on a bet. Assuming he won (God forbid), at the least it would contribute to his claiming he had a “mandate”.

  • izoneguy

    Texas House GOP Caucus head plays hooky in Bahamas

    Read more: http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/ap/tx/7622369.html#ixzz1Q6K1sqSm

    “All I can say is that Democrats are here, and we’re working hard to protect the people of Texas against Perry’s politically driven agenda,” said Jessica Farrar, D-Houston, heads the House Democratic Caucus, referring to Gov. Rick Perry, who decides what matters lawmakers can consider during the special session.

    Taylor missed a Republican Caucus meeting Tuesday where party lawmakers argued among themselves over abortion language in a key health care bill. That fight has kept the measure from a full House vote.
    On Monday, the House adjourned after less than two hours, when a record vote showed just 99 of its 150 members were present.

  • acat
  • standingonthewall

    If Huntsman gets the R nomination, IMO many conservatives and tea party activists will abandon the R party for good.

    I don’t think Huntsman will be the nominee but it is possible given MSM backing and Democrats and less conservative independents voting in open R primaries.

    It is conceivable that Huntsman could beat Obama if the economy and employment are still in the tank; if he gets a large majority of moderate independents; and if a lot of Obama voters aren’t energized enough to go to the polls.

    But whether Huntsman as R nominee wins or loses against Obama, the question will be do we end up with 3 parties (R, D and ?) or 2 parties (D and ?), the R’s having committed suicide.

  • http://slcliberty.blogivists.com randy streu

    Look, people have been calling for the “end of the Republican Party” since long before I even knew what politics WERE. It’s not gonna happen this time, either.

  • acat

    then, just with McCain in 2008, a media-friendly launch makes sense…. it’s pretty necessary to get all the free press possible and use it to be the viable “anti-Romney but not social conservative” candidate.

    In short, if the majority of conservatives are still divided going into Iowa, we shall be defeated in detail…

    Mew

  • http://slcliberty.blogivists.com randy streu

    nt.

  • jeffstag

    CNN.com had a headline artice about how great the guy is (didn’t do that for any other canidate, obviously) and NPR had a man-on-the-street interview calling him “The Republican John F Kennedy”. I get the real impression their trying to anoint him.

  • jeffstag

    CNN.com had a headline artice about how great the guy is (didn’t do that for any other canidate, obviously) and NPR had a man-on-the-street interview calling him “The Republican John F Kennedy”. I get the real impression their trying to anoint him.

  • sharp

    John Bolton has also said he is considering entry in the race. Erick, please consider including Mr. Bolton?

    Romney has indeed reached the ceiling. Someone else will eventually get the other 2/3s. (BTW, Trump will have an instant 1/4 support.)

    I personally want our nominee to be a fighter, with a history of going to battle. So, I’m ignoring the current list of nice guys. Who are our recent warriors? DeMint, Bolton, Ken Cuccinelli, Scott Walker, Jan Brewer, Sherriff Joe Arpiao, Darryl Issa, Chris Christy, (Trump), and everybody’s favorite – Allen West.

  • poquinn

    This is the last chance for the R party. If they don’t do the right thing and nominate a strong conservative candidate, then the conservative members will look to move on from the party. Simple as that.

  • judgebean

    In Chicago the standard operating procedure in politics is either eliminate the competition or create it. Every good Marxist has this in their play book, Lenin and Stalin were pros at this, Huntsman would be the perfect victim for Obama.

  • gawken

    Fly to Nevada for a quickie divorce from Calista..blame her for EVERYTHING…( she just wanted to spend $$$ on jewelry, cruises…)

    Look, most women can’t stand her, so he’ll get a sympathy vote, and 99.9% of guys can relate to what she put him through…he’d be at the TOP of the next poll.

  • gawken

    When you have so many candidates, what do the pollsters do? Do they ask ALL the names…are they in alphabetical order, do they change the order they read the list of names each time, is it done randomly?

  • jeffstag

    I suppose I should get ahead of the curve and try and buy www.bullmoose.com from whoever owns it.

  • gekster

    Didn’t happen then, won’t happen now.
    Don’t like the party, then change it from within.
    See any and all posts by ColdWarrior.
    Don’t just complain, do something about it.
    It’s up to you.

  • averagevoterdotcom

    more to jump in due to obama negatives so high.
    maybe obama lets biden run instead.

    bachmann. The boys best not underestimate her. I think a good VP pick.

    cain. Jonnie one note. Will fizzle.

    huntsman. Shoe salesman. Msm’s best alternative to obummer.

    newt. Give me a break from this joke.

    romney. Likely to win. Likely to take FL this time. Wise to pick BTO (bachmann) as VP.

    pawlenty. He knee capped himself. Crippled. Not likely to recover.

    perry. Potus is his for the taking. Battle with romney would be ali-frazier.

  • averagevoterdotcom

    LOL!

  • chihank

    Once Perry announces he’s running, Palin will probably announce her intentions about 2012 and back Perry.

    Once Newt realizes that a Presidential campiagn is no way to sell his books and DVDs, he will drop out and back Perry as well.

  • acat
  • acat

    Gingrich supporting Perry would be seen, by this cat, as a negative.

    Note to cpaguy – pay attention. The Gingrich endorsement, if it happens, can be played to better effect than the Gardasil thing. I mention this because you’re obviously running low on ammunition, and a battle of wits with an unarmed opponent is just no fun. (cheshire grin)

    Mew

  • adair

    Obamacare, would Huntsman face to face with Obama grind him into the floor? Would Huntsman overpower him, the way he took on the Chinese and forced them to stop manipulating their currency and cut out the cyber attacks and quit stealing our technology?

    Yep, he’s an electable candidate all right. So is Obama.

  • chihank

    I could see Newt endorsing Perry. Newt did write the forward of Perry’s book. Also, the Iowa and NH staff that quit on Newt, is now testing the waters of a potential Perry campaign.

    Plus, Newt doesn’t appear to be bearing a grudge against former staffers jumping to Perry’s ship.

  • LDahl752

    He supported Gore in 2000. There’s a lot of information out there about his “history,” but I can’t take the time to look for all of it now. One thing comes to mind, though, and that’s his push for the Texas version of the DREAM act. He was a huge proponent, and it was passed quite a few years ago. Of course he’d be better than The Occupant, but I think we can choose a far more conservative nominee. For me, that is definitely Pawlenty.

  • sharp

    John Bolton has also said he is considering entry in the race.

    Erick, please consider including Mr. Bolton in your next horserace.

  • http://www.hakubi.us/ Neil Stevens

    Cool Story

  • izoneguy

    I like T-paw and will back him if Perry does not run.
    I feel Perry would have a much better chance of defeating Obama.

    Rick Perry’s Conservative Credentials

    http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2011/06/rick_perrys_conservative_credentials.html

    In the articles, blog posts and their attending comments being posted here at American Thinker and at other websites about the possibility of Texas governor, Rick Perry entering the presidential race, there seems to be some question as to Perry’s authenticity as a conservative and Republican because he was once a Democrat and was Al Gore’s Texas campaign manager in 1988.

  • izoneguy

    T-paw chances will be shattered.

  • acat

    Gingrich is quite “damaged” as a conservative .. and there are indications that he’s not really conservative at all .. he just recognizes the popularity of conservative issues, and leveraged them.

    This theory explains (to me, at least) the dissonance between the ideas behind the Contract with America and the realpolitik that Gingrich employed after fulfilling the letter (but not the spirit) of the Contract. That is, the Contract was useful to get Gingrich to the position of Speaker .. and after that, no longer mattered.

    With that in mind, I do not like that Perry has enough association with Gingrich to .. pull the same crap.

    Mew

  • glaucon

    How about we try something new this year? If Huntsman wins the GOP Primary, we can go ahead and run Obama and Huntsman together. We can use the General Election to decide who heads the ticket. From all appearances, Huntsman seems to be the status quo establishment candidate, and would probably enjoy the exact same big money support that Obama has. Might as well end the charade and stop all of this wasteful spending on two candidates when it doesn’t matter which one wins.

  • davidleigh

    I’m sorry. I don’t know how anyone could believe this former Govenor has any chance. He will be short-lived. The negatives of his stewardship in China and several family members, including himself, giving money to re-elect Harry Reed has sunk him before he has a chance. His candidacy is a tempest in a teapot and he is no threat to Romney. The man is a phony. He will be stopped in the South, period. We would like to see Perry get in very soon. Romney is a good choice but Perry is a TRUE conservative, okay? Good. It’s settled.

  • red_oakster

    Conservatives in New Hampshire are all over Huntsman. From Sununu to the Union Leader, they’re calling phony-baloney on Huntsman. He’s not going anywhere, but at least he’ll help the New Hampshire economy for awhile. :)

  • TxCon

    In 1988, when Perry was a D and Gore was pro-life.

  • red_oakster

    McCain effectively attacked Romney for the latter’s lack of support for the surge in Iraq. When Thompson and Guiliani flamed out, McCain had the national security hawk side of the party to himself. McCain also had pro forma positions on the social issues (even assuming he lacked strong convictions) that drew anti-Romney votes to him.

    In contrast, Huntsman has no way to attract either national security conservatives or social conservatives. Moreover, his economic policies are so exquisitely finnessed, that he’s lost the tax-cutting faction (who knows to whom).

    And in every debtate, he’s going to be accused by someone on the stage of being a RINO.

    If Romney gets a real challenge in New Hampshire, it will come either from an Iowa-winning Pawlenty or Perry, or from an insurgent economic conservative in New Hampshire (Guiliani or Bolton if either run).

    So I guess I’m less worried about Huntsman than you are.

  • davidleigh

    Anytime the media darlings start wetting their pants over a republican that republican is no consevrative. We all know this is their strategy to defeat our guy, like that constant fly in the ointment, John McCain. Everytime I see him on the tube I not only mute his comments, I switch the channel to ensure I can neither see nor hear him disatch his all-knowing wisdom.

    The media hates conservatives. Huntsman even LOOKS the part of a sleezy cheat on a soap-opera or a kniving scalawag who would sell his own troops down the river like Fletcher did in The Outlaw Josey Wales.

    Sorry media-folk. We’re going with a real, big time conservative this time. I know this is going to cause you many visits to the commode.

  • red_oakster

    and Bachmann. Perry could as easily turn out to be Fred Thompson or John Connally.

  • soljerblue

    I like him even less than I like Romney — and that’s a few notches less than zero.

  • soljerblue

    We put up a ticket of a disgraced congressman, and a racist attorney general — the Weiner-Holder ticket?

    Whaddaya think?

  • soljerblue

    We put up a ticket of a disgraced congressman, and a racist attorney general — the Weiner-Holder ticket?

    Whaddaya think?

  • glaucon

    Barney Frank is the campaign manager. ;)

  • acat

    and one is the Dems. The other, therefore, must be the GOP.

    The party did not “die” in 1980 when Anderson ran as an independent against Reagan and soaked up a few RINO votes, it will not “die” now if {Tea Partier} runs as an independent and soaks up some Tea party votes.

    What will happen, though, is a Dem win and a second Obama term… and anyone I meet who tells me “I voted for {Tea Partier} on principle” will get no sympathy.

    Mew

  • acat

    Huntsman has the resume, and looks good enough on paper – former governor, doesn’t have Mitt’s problems – for the role of anti-Mitt and then anti-Obama walk-over.

    That’s my concern and .. so far, with Conservatives’ tendencies to stay loyal to their candidates until it’s too late, I’m not convinced we won’t have to pinch our noses and vote for Romney against Obama.

    Mew

  • liberty3

    Rush is on to him.
    Mark Levin is on to him.
    Wall Street Journal called him Obama’s running mate!!

    HE IS THE DEFINITION OF A RINO!!!

    (I bet Mitch McConnell and a few others love him!)

  • davidleigh

    Guys, guys, c’mon!! It’s her hair. Look, who wants to look at that hair anyhow? Newt’s out big time. He’s exposed himself as a weakling. She LOOKS like the elf that wanted to be a dentist off Rudolphwith that hair! Look at that “do” next time you see her…think about it. She used the whole can on it! Big time. He will have to go into hiding for a while and try to get some composure he’s run so poorly. She must be a madusa…or however you spell the name of the snake-head lady!! Wold YOU want a woman running up a tab like $500K to a MIL at Tiffany’s? Only a wimp allows that! HAHA!!

  • izoneguy

    Why Did Mitt Romney Keep Boy Scouts From Volunteering at the Olympics?

    http://reachupward.blogspot.com/2008/04/why-did-mitt-romney-keep-boy-scouts.html

    Romney and other former SLOC officials have since avoided any discussion of the Olympic shutout of the BSA. So it?s not truly known what caused the shutout. But Perry works to build a case that it was retribution for the Supreme Court ruling. He finally cites Romney?s statement during a 1994 debate with Sen. Kennedy, where Romney said, ?I feel that all people should be allowed to participate in the Boy Scouts regardless of the sexual orientation.?

    Of course, it is well known that Romney changed many of his liberal positions in an attempt to appeal to conservatives during his presidential candidacy. He has left himself wide open to the accusation that he would say anything to get elected. I think that his view is more likely something along the lines of, ?It?s nothing personal. It?s just business. That?s the way the game works in business.?

  • liberty3

    John Loudon former state senator tells us how to win in 2012; great idea–we have to avoid Romney and mobilize QUICKLY around one person and I say BACHMAN!!!!

    John Loudon ? How to Win in 2012

    http://trevorloudon.com/2011/06/john-loudon-how-to-win-in-2012/#respond

  • liberty3

    Devastating article in American Spectator on Romney.

    “IS MITT ROMNEY THE NEW NELSON ROCKEFELLER”

    A PORTION:

    “Despite my affiliation with the Republican Party, I don’t think of myself as highly partisan.”
    – Mitt Romney in his book No Apology

    And there it was again.

    Front and center in last night’s CNN New Hampshire debate with Republican presidential candidates, former Massachusetts Governor Mitt Romney twice — not once but twice — illustrated his problem as a presidential candidate and potential Republican president in the post-Reagan era.

    Midway into the debate Romney answered a question on how to deal with the issue of raising the debt limit by saying that as president he would concentrate on “reining in the excesses of government.” And when asked about picking a vice president Romney came back to the point; he would “restrain the growth of government.”

    It’s not as if no one is noticing The Problem with Mitt Romney.

    Even if everyone is polite enough not to just spit it out.

    The Wall Street Journal editorial page was plain.

    National Review, which had a different opinion four years ago, is now onto it.

    The Club for Growth named it without putting a name to it.

    Mark Levin is heartsick about finding himself onto it.

    But onto what?

    OK, it’s time to lay the cards down.

    Who, exactly, is the Lord Voldemort of the Republican Party?

    What is the name in conservative circles that, in the style of the chief villain in the Harry Potter stories, might best be referred to as “You-Know-Who,” “He-Who-Must-Not-Be-Named” or “The Dark Lord”?

    Can you whisper in print? Shhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh.? That would be??

  • http://slcliberty.blogivists.com randy streu

    History disagrees.

  • littlehouse18

    I can’t believe I’d say that, but I get a really bad character vibe from Huntsman. I just can’t trust him. Fortunately I don’t think I’ll have to make that choice.

  • izoneguy

    and fight against people like Huntsman.

  • forrest

    How to choose, hmmm…

    Who has solid conservative credentials; waste cutter, pro-gun, pro-life, security hawk, etc?
    Who has executive experience and left their state with a surplus?
    Who cleaned up corruption in their state and whipped the big corporations into line?
    Who has spent the last two years building a grassroots base of support through the “new media”?
    Most importantly, who has consistently taken the fight to Obama, Pelosi and Reid week after week, month after month?

    When you can answer these questions, you will have your candidate :0)

  • forrest

    How to choose, hmmm…

    Who has solid conservative credentials; waste cutter, pro-gun, pro-life, security hawk, etc?
    Who has executive experience and left their state with a surplus?
    Who cleaned up corruption in their state and whipped the big corporations into line?
    Who has spent the last two years building a grassroots base of support through the “new media”?
    Most importantly, who has consistently taken the fight to Obama, Pelosi and Reid week after week, month after month?

    When you can answer these questions, you will have your candidate :0)

  • Flagstaff

    How about “The 2011 Nelson Rockefeller.” He’s almost as far left as Joe Lieberman.

  • Flagstaff

    “H[untsman] also has the ability (missing in several candidates) to go face to face with Obama and not look a) weak (like Romney) or b) foolish (like Gingrich).”

    Did you not hear his “I’m in” speech? It couldn’t have been weaker if delivered by Caspar Milquetoast.

  • izoneguy

    Why All the Scorn for Huntsman?

    http://thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.com/2011/06/22/why-all-the-scorn-for-huntsman/

    Jon M. Huntsman Jr. is actually running for president? And saying he respects President Obama, no less?

    Is he mocking us? Does he think we?re a bunch of idiots?

    That?s pretty much been the tone of the commentary since Mr. Huntsman made his candidacy official on Tuesday, and I have to say I?ve found it rather jolting.

    Jolting? They ain’t seen nothing yet.

    So why is Mr. Huntsman being mocked by a lot of influential analysts? I think it?s because, going back to 2009 and culminating in the 2010 elections, there is now an accepted news media narrative about the Republican Party. It?s ideologically kooky. It?s furiously partisan. It?s full of hate.

    Hunnhhh?? It?s ideologically kooky. It?s furiously partisan. It?s full of hate.
    He is talking about the democrats right???

    Matt Bai is projecting his fears and bias. The propaganda wing of the democratic party is in full swing smear mode.

  • jeffstag

    You make a few good points, but I still have a great faith/fear in the ability of large numbers of people to be led by media coverage. See also, love for Obama in 2008, strong negatives for Palin right now or the uncritical belief in global warming by large numbers of people. Say anything enough and it becomes true.

  • mboyle1988

    in Perry. Ideologically, I like Bachmann the most, but she has only ever competed in an R+6 district, and she’s never even won that seat with more than 52% of the vote. Perry won 56% against a really strong Democratic challenger, and has won three gubernatorial elections in the second largest state in the union. He’s a brilliant campaigner, almost as good as Obama, and that’s something none of the other candidates can prove. They can say it, and they well may be, but Perry has a proven record.

    In addition, Perry has a gift wrapped campaign pitch. I can see his first ad now. “I’m Rick Perry. The past four years have seen America saddled with four straight record deficits, and unemployment that is 25% higher than when Obama first got into office. While most of the country was writhing in pain from the worst economy since the Great Depression, the state of Texas, under my leadership, created more jobs than the rest of the US combined. All this while ranking in the top ten of the EPA’s least polluted states and putting more public schools in Newsweek’s top ten list than any other state. I’m running for president because America needs a proven job creator, not a proven promise breaker.”

  • mine

    I agree with Eric except I think Huntsman is all smoke and mirrors and can only hurt Romney. I can’t believe he will ever get out of low single digits. I think the race is between Bachmann and Romney. The rest is just noise.

  • mine

    I agree with Eric except I think Huntsman is all smoke and mirrors and can only hurt Romney. I can’t believe he will ever get out of low single digits. I think the race is between Bachmann and Romney. The rest is just noise.

  • azrally

    at best. Either we have a strong field of candidates which will result in a strong challenge to President Obama in 2012, or a MSM plant that will confound the conservatives by running another disastrous “centrist” campaign. At the worst there is a 50-50 shot at taking the White House.

    Our attention should be spent in making certain that conservatives are elected in as many of the Senate and Congressional races as possible. Newt correctly points out that a “team” effort is required. We will have a much better oportunity to see a conservative agenda passed with strong majorities on Capitol Hill than we will with a President of any stripe. . .

  • izoneguy

    Why does the Federal government want to punish success?

    The EPA assault on Texas

    http://hotair.com/greenroom/archives/2011/06/19/the-epa-assault-on-texas/

    If Obama gets 4 more years look for more punishment of success and more “social justice”.

  • http://impudent.edublogs.org/ kyle8

    last year and he told me that the state of Texas had four separate lawsuits against various parts of the Federal Government and was about to file a fifth.

  • izoneguy

    Job growth in America will be hindered until Obama and his red tape are gone.

  • YnotNOW

    (and possibly even longer – don’t expect better)

  • YnotNOW

    (and possibly even longer – don’t expect better)

  • acat

    Not for U.S. House or Senate, but for the State legislatures and the Governors’ mansions.

    Mitch Daniels was routinely called out here on Red State by charges that his “conservatism” was actually the Indiana legislature… and Perry is facing the same exact statements.

    It’s great to elect a conservative President .. but it’s just as if not more important to elect conservative state reps.

    Mew

  • YnotNOW

    If people don’t like the tendencies of the Republican Party, then they need to listen to ColdWarrior and get involved in the party to change it from within.

    http://precinctproject.us/

    Because 3rd party is a recipe for failure (i.e. electing Democrats, but I repeat myself…)

  • YnotNOW

    If people don’t like the tendencies of the Republican Party, then they need to listen to ColdWarrior and get involved in the party to change it from within.

    http://precinctproject.us/

    Because 3rd party is a recipe for failure (i.e. electing Democrats, but I repeat myself…)

  • mikeymike143

    both major tea party groups have come out and stated that they are against a third party tea party movement and will NOT support a third party candidate. i am a politically active tea partier and i can tell you that the thought of either ron ”the nutjob” paul or jon ”RINO” huntsman as the republican nominee makes me want to run for the toilet and puke. however, if one of them should unfortunately became the republican nominee i would hold my nose and vote for them. i would not vote for a more conservative third party candidate because all that would do would give the obummer regime four more years to destroy our country. and nobody in their right mnd wants to suffer through four more years having obummer at POTUS.

  • mikeymike143

    sarah palin. but she is not running.

  • acat

    I flat refuse to vote for Ron Paul. If he’s the GOP nominee, I’m voting green.

    (and then voting GOP for every down-ticket race)

    Mew

  • acat

    The Libs in the media look at the GOP field and pick the guy they’d vote for if they had a choice.

    There’s some strategy, but .. I’m convinced it’s more the inherent media bias.

    Last go around, it was McCain they liked. He wasn’t a hard-liner, the was “media friendly” and had a great sense of humor – and he’d busted Falwell’s chops a time or two.

    This time, it looks like they’re most comfortable with Huntsman.. and no surprise, they agree with his written assessment of Obama.

    Conservatives need to be aware of the risk here, though – sometime near New Hampshire, the RINO wing of the party (Gingrich, Giuliani, Huntsman, Romney, Roemer) will drop to one candidate pretty fast.

    If Conservatives don’t get behind one candidate either before or pretty soon after the RINOs whittle it down, we’ll lose. Simple math.

    And yeah, it’s going to be a long silly season.

    Mew

  • gekster

    that as soon as McLooser won the nomination, they turned on him like a hawk on a dove.
    There is no reason to believe that it won’t happen again.

  • http://theheartlander.wordpress.com/ heartlander

    Bachmann has been THE leader of the anti-Obamacare fight in the House. Why doesn’t she just stay there? I could see her as Majority Leader or Whip someday.

    But she has no executive experience, hasn’t even been in the House all that long, and while Sarah Palin has misspoken a few times, Michele has made major FACTUAL mistakes (the infamous Lexington and Concord in New Hampshire gaffe, for example — that’s as bad as some of Obama’s mistakes, for crying out loud! The difference is that the media will cover for Obama, they’ll crucify Michele).

    Paul Ryan’s smarter than any of ‘em — and while he hasn’t been a governor, he’s been in leadership in the all-important Budget Committee — and his work there has also given him a LOT of familiarity with the Executive branch.

  • http://theheartlander.wordpress.com/ heartlander

    I know you’re pissed — but don’t even joke about voting for Obama.

    No Republican, no matter how bad, is going to appoint the wild-eyed, Marxist/Maoist MANIACS to the Supreme Court (and hundreds of federal judgeships) that Obama will.

    No Republican, no matter how bad, has ever proposed, as Obama has, instituting a “civilian national security force, as well-armed and well-funded as the military” answerable only to the President (can you say “brownshirts”?)

    No Republican, no matter how bad, has the MALICIOUS, malevolent intent that Obama does to DELIBERATELY drive this country into total chaos (a la Russia, 1917, or Germany, 1933) so that he and his communist pals can assume total control and build their “socialist utopia,” oops, “fundamentally transformed America.”

    No Republican, no matter how bad, shared an office with, and launched their political career from the home of, a guy who started and ran a communist terrorist group that bombed targets in the U.S. and made plans to “eliminate” up to 25 million Americans who refuse to toe the commie totalitarian line.

    A second term for Barack Obama means violence in America such as we have not seen since the Civil War. SHAME ON YOU for even considering voting for that diabolical man. It is juvenile to throw rocks at your own party just because it’s not perfect. PEOPLE are not perfect. This is a fallen world. Or hadn’t you noticed? We do the best we can with what we’ve got. We don’t pack up our marbles and go home. We don’t stomp out and throw a temper tantrum just because things aren’t exactly the way we want.

    The stakes are bogglingly serious right now. Grow up, and fight like hell to keep this country.

  • http://theheartlander.wordpress.com/ heartlander

    …is something I would pay a lot of money to see!

  • http://theheartlander.wordpress.com/ heartlander

    …the man is absolutely AWESOME on the Islam/shariah issue.

    His speech at AEI a year ago, “America at Risk,” (video here; transcript here) is one of the most important speeches of the last decade.

    The ONLY other candidate I see who has anywhere near Newt’s knowledge, commitment and ability to articulate on this issue is Rick Santorum. (And Allen West, if he could be drafted to run.)

  • http://theheartlander.wordpress.com/ heartlander
  • http://theheartlander.wordpress.com/ heartlander

    Not only will they get no sympathy from me, they’ll get such an earful they’ll wish they were deaf.

  • http://theheartlander.wordpress.com/ heartlander

    …to PREVENT that third-party disaster scenario is for SARAH to do what she does better than anyone else does — get the attention of the base — and exhort them to support the Republican nominee,

    The same people who would be tempted to join a conservative third party are the people who LOVE Sarah, and most of them will do what she asks. THIS is the way Sarah Palin could save our country. (NOT by running herself, but by keeping the Tea Party movement from splitting off and handing the election to Obama).

  • http://www.gmsplace.com/ civil truth

    …and the stakes we’re facing in 2012. All true, alas. To have to say this about the President of the United States – that says hogsheads about the depths we’ve sunk to.

    And then your closing sentences – a vital message:

    We do the best we can with what we?ve got. We don?t pack up our marbles and go home. We don?t stomp out and throw a temper tantrum just because things aren?t exactly the way we want.

  • http://theheartlander.wordpress.com/ heartlander

    BUT sure do hope that you’re wrong about Trump getting that much support. Trump is NOT a conservative by any stretch of the imagination. He supports the Kelo ruling, one of the worst Supreme Court rulings of the last decade; he’s used eminent domain himself to violate private citizens’ property rights; aw, heck, the list goes on and on, just go here and see for yourself.

    You should also become informed about Darrell Issa, whose criminal record and support of Hezbollah, Syria and the PLO make him genuinely scary. I appreciate some of the investigations he’s been doing — especially the current investigation into the ATF gun-running scandal — but the man is not to be trusted.

    Chris Christie, while not a shady character like Issa, nevertheless has troubling ties to Islamists who want to impose shariah law on the United States. He’s also soft on immigration and buys into the global warming hoax.

    I do totally agree with your notion that we don’t have the luxury of picking “nice guys” anymore — we need true and proven warriors. And it would help if the warrior can EXPLAIN things well! The question I always end up asking myself about any possible candidate is: How will this person do in a head-to-head debate with Obama? And in an interview with a Katie Couric or a Charlie Gibson? We need someone who is not only fierce as a warrior, but a genius at communicating with people.

  • http://theheartlander.wordpress.com/ heartlander

    In 1988, long before my conservative awakening, I supported Gore. (I was a registered Democrat at the time, and I liked Gore better than any of the others because, yes, at that time he was pro-life. None of the others were.)

  • http://theheartlander.wordpress.com/ heartlander

    Sounds pretty damning to me.

    And would someone please explain to me how a Mormon, and a universally acknowledged “great family guy,” ever ends up supporting abortion and “gay” “marriage”? (yeah, yeah, I know, he says he’s pro-life now, but how could he — and Harry Reid, who’s also a Mormon — support that sh*t in the first place?)

  • http://theheartlander.wordpress.com/ heartlander

    Anybody who thinks it won’t happen again is out of touch with reality.

  • http://theheartlander.wordpress.com/ heartlander

    With that pitch, he’s sure as heck get MY vote! (And I don’t even like Rick Perry!)

    mboyle, I hope that you or somebody who thinks like you and expresses him/herself as well will be working on his campaign staff. That there is a DYNAMITE campaign ad.

  • californiagold

    Back when GW Bush and the republican congress held power, very little in the way of “conservative limited government” policy was passed. Instead, we saw the expansion of federal power and entitlement spending. In 2012, conservatives have a big decision to make. Primary voters can elect another good talker who doesn’t walk the walk – or they can elect a true believer in limited government. Bachmann looks to be a true believer, I’m not yet convinced that Perry is, and I know Romney isn’t.

    If republicans retain he house, and possibly regain the senate, it will be important to elect a conservative who really believes in limited government. Otherwise, it will be a repeat of the GW Bush years.