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The George Bush-Ted Kennedy Chickens Come Home to Roost in Atlanta

One of the worst trends in modern public education in the United States is using a child’s performance on a standardized test to assess whether a teacher is doing his or her job and whether a school is performing or not performing.

The trend was growing before George Bush and Ted Kennedy sat down and drafted No Child Left Behind in the early part of W’s administration. But then they decided to add in financial incentives and penalties and near national standards. Conservatives who were willing to speak up at the time said it would lead to dark places. Unfortunately, too few wanted to speak up against the new “conservative” President who’d just given the “liberal lion” carte blanche to draft education legislation.

As predicted by the few conservative voices in the wilderness, the chickens are coming home to roost in Atlanta, GA. A multi-year investigation into standardized test cheating in the Atlanta Public School system has found a mafia like atmosphere from the top all the way down to classroom teachers.

For the past decade, Atlanta’s schools received national praise for their success — success measured by performance on standardized tests. And as the performance increased, the benchmarks for the tests increased. Consequently, cheating had to become more widespread.

It got to the point where teachers were having parties where they’d sit down on a weekend together and wholesale erase and redo students’ test answers. Children unable to read were making near perfect scores on reading comprehension tests. The Superintendent and her school bosses would scream racism when anyone dared question what was going on. They’d behave like global warming scientists and destroy documents requested by the media. They’d fabricate, alter, and destroy evidence and obstruct investigators.

At Venetian Hills, a group of teachers and administrators who dubbed themselves “the chosen ones” convened to change answers in the afternoons or during makeup testing days, investigators found. Principal Clarietta Davis, a testing coordinator told investigators, wore gloves while erasing to avoid leaving fingerprints on answer sheets.

Davis refused to answer the investigators’ questions. She could not be reached Tuesday.

At Gideons Elementary, teachers sneaked tests off campus and held a weekend “changing party” at a teacher’s home in Douglas County to fix answers.

Cheating was “an open secret” at the school, the report said. The testing coordinator handed out answer-key transparencies to place over answer sheets so the job would go faster.

When investigators began questioning educators, now-retired principal Armstead Salters obstructed their efforts by telling teachers not to cooperate, the report said.

“If anyone asks you anything about this just tell them you don’t know,” the report said Salters said. He told teachers to “just stick to the story and it will all go away.”

Salters eventually confessed to knowing cheating was occurring, the report said. He could not be reached Tuesday.

At Kennedy Middle, children who couldn’t read not only passed the state reading test, but scored at the highest level possible. At Perkerson Elementary, a student sat under a desk, then randomly filled in answers and still passed.

At East Lake Elementary, the principal and testing coordinator instructed teachers to arrange students’ seats so that the lower-performing children would receive easier versions of the Fifth Grade Writing Tests.

Why did this happen? Well it seems it all started out for fame and glory. Then No Child Left Behind came in with its adequate yearly progress goals. Teachers were more and more forced to give up teaching subject matter and start teaching tests. If students did badly, teachers were punished. If whole classes did badly, schools were punished. If whole schools did badly, districts were punished.

George Bush and Ted Kennedy, along with school officials at the state and local level, had decided to give financial incentive to success in public education. For many schools dealing with kids whose fathers are in jail and mothers are addicted to drugs, the kids are coming to school hungry and unable to read or concentrate. The only way to get ahead was to cheat.

And cheat they did. And cheat they do. Atlanta just got caught. But the odds that Atlanta is the only system involved are slim to none.

I talk to many, many teachers on my radio show. Most of them are real conservatives. All of them lament what No Child Left Behind has done to public school systems. The law has forced on schools a nationalized system of education and standards and a nationalized system of standardized testing.

Perversely, instead of using the standardized tests to measure a student’s progress and place the child with similar performing students in the next year’s grade to help the student, the tests track the teachers’ progress and punishes or rewards the teacher based on how well the student does on the test.

We are no longer teaching a nation of children how to think. We are no longer teaching a nation of children how to read and write and add and subtract and understand American history and balance chemical equations. We are teaching our children how to take a standardized test. And then, when they fail, we use the result to punish the teacher, not help the child.

As federal involvement in education grows, this problem will grow too. Atlanta is just the first warning sign. This is what happens when Republicans split the baby instead of fighting for real school choice and real school reform.

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COMMENTS

  • http://theminorityreportblog.com Repair_Man_Jack

    53% of the adult population can read, 73% of the adult population has a HS Diploma. Why the discrepancy? See the post above.

  • Darin_H

    offering anything and everything in order to get a voucher system in. I would have accepted even double the money “for schools.” When they gave up the vouchers, I was dead set against the legislation.

    More vouchers, more charter schools, less federal control, less federal involvement, less NEA – for the children.

  • Derek E. Hopper

    You will always get the behavior that you incentivize!

  • bcochran1981

    but how do you suggest we measure the success of the teachers (and they by all means need to be measured) other than the progress of the students?

  • Composer_Man

    How about individual teacher evaluations performed by their superiors?

    It seems to work in the rest of the private workforce.

  • flynavy

    What would be a workable solution for tracking the progress/success of teachers and students?

    If we allow individual districts/schools/teachers to create their own curriculum – is that not a problem as well? Grading and performance would be at the discretion of the teacher – arbitrary!

    If I’m paying for a product (my child’s education) – I want a way to measure the quality of what I’ve purchased.

    What’s a good start?

  • gawken

    The original rationale for the testing mandated under NCLB was, given the hundreds of billions of $$ that the DoE dolls out, we had to have some way to measure if the $$ was being used effectively. Ergo, standardizded testing.

    Instead, we should close the Dep of Eductaion..just shiut it down,a nd return control back to the states and localities.

    One of the biggest falsehoods prepetuated by local school boards ,and elections to them, is the Norman Rockwell ideal that we still have “local control.” We don’t.

    The boards are dominated by incestuous relationships with the teachers union, and whatever in the budget that is NOT spent on salaries, well, probably 95% of that is mandated by federal requirements.

  • bcochran1981

    …based on what? What are the criteria?

  • acat

    There’s a principle that shows up in several of the formalizations of “best practices”, ITIL, six sigma, etc., that says that the one doing the work cannot be the one who tests the work.

    This even shows up in the trades – the guy who does the electrical work on a house isn’t the one who signs off that it’s safe to occupy.

    How NCLB allowed schools to do their own testing is just .. madness. This was entirely predictible, was predicted, and has turned what should have been a good idea – making sure money is spent wisely – into a disgrace.

    Shut down the Dept. of Ed. and block grant the funds to the States. Better yet, just stop allocating the money altogether and let the States figure out how to make up the shortfall.

    I do think we need a national standard of some sort – a high school diploma has to meet some minimum standard – but .. I no longer think the government and the teachers unions can be trusted to set this standard. Becker, if you’re reading this, I concede the point. You are correct.

    Mew

  • pantera

    w/o the test the same students still cant read. Don’t blame the test.
    I hope this organized crime ring gets prosecuted for federal crimes.
    Millions of dollars and cover up through fear, intimation and threats are mob tactics.

  • floridaveteran

    Let the funds follow the students, with their parents deciding where to spend the educational dollars. The use local control/local testing/local teacher evaluation and let the parents decide if their child(ren) are being educated appropriately.

    Let the public schools/private schools/home schools/ other schools compete for the business.

  • http://www.erickerickson.org Erick Erickson

    And what I know for certain is that the administrators know who the bad teachers are. The parents know who the bad teachers are.

    You don’t need a standardized test to evaluate a teacher when it is obvious by how they manage their classroom, how they teach, the content they cover, etc.

  • kowalski

    I never get tired of reading all the glowing comments about the superintendent.

  • jordar1

    When my children started public school in Texas, I was shocked at how much of the school year was geared toward being ready to take the standardized test that comes in the second half of the year.
    When I was in school, it was about the curriculum, now, it’s about THE TEST.

    These teachers and administrators should be hung up by their Buster Browns for allowing this to occur.

    This is an absolutely disgusting example to set for our young people. Our country has lost its moral compass and until we return to God, it’s all downhill from here.

  • kbro

    Well said, Mr. Erickson. As a teacher I couldn’t agree more. I predicted this in 2001 when NCLB was passed. Bush/Kennedy thought they created educational utopia and now we see what happens when the federal government gets involved in education.

  • http://whattoreadtoday.blogspot.com/ Paula

    First, let me say that I”m not a huge fan of testing. I think it’s a poor assessment method in many cases, though in some subjects (math, for example) it can be a useful tool. That said, I think (Erick), you’re implying that because some people cheat, there should be no testing. This is quite a straw man!

    NCLB has been a disaster. While Gov. Bush Version 1.0 may have had some success in Texas, the results did not translate to success in the 2.0 National Version. It resulted in alarmingly low standards and didn’t tie individual teacher effectiveness to student success in any meaningful way (school building success is not the same as teacher effectiveness).

    There must be some way to evaluate teacher effectiveness. The union solution of last in, first out and automatic step increases is insane and hurts students. Pay and promotion for teachers should be based upon merit, not seniority.

    Ideally, each student should receive a comprehensive assessment every year to measure progress. This could include, but shouldn’t be limited to, some sort of formal testing – at least in the upper grade levels. Achievement would not be defined by an arbitrary “cut score,” rather it would measure progress in each subject in accordance with the student’s abilities. This would be one part of of the teacher’s merit pay assessment.

    Another aspect could be (multiple) classroom observation by a third party – the building principal, master teachers, and/or even parents.

    And just like in the private sector, teachers should be evaluated on the basics like work ethic, attendance, attitude, dedication, etc.

    Teachers who receive excellent evaluations should be paid more. Those who fail continually should be sent packing.

    Former D.C. schools chancellor, Michelle Rhee’s Student’s First website has some great videos showing how meaningful teacher evaluations are working.
    http://www.studentsfirst.org/video/

    Rick Perry is on the right track by refusing federal Race to the Top money, with all its strings attached and refusing to sign on to the Common Core standards (which also set the bar very low). More states ought to join in and demand sovereignty over their education policies (most have provisions for education enshrined in their state constitutions. It’s where the responsibility (legally, on paper) lies.

    However, as you said, real school choice is the solution. Attach the dollars to the students and let them take the money to the school of their choice. In fact, I would even argue that if we actually had a robust school choice system for every student in the country, there would be no need for teacher assessments. I think parents are smart enough to know if a school is bad and their children are not learning. They’ll vote with their feet and choose another school if given real choices. Unfortunately, right now, most children are stuck in public schools and there must be some meaningful way to evaluate schools and teachers.

  • bcochran1981

    spent several years teaching in the Prince Georges County MD public school system and the Duval County FL public school system. You’re right, other teachers absolutely know who’s good and who’s bad. I think, in many instances, that administrators are every bit as much of a problem as bad teachers.

    Sure, personally identifying good/bad teachers can be easy, but how do you discipline/fire them based on qualitative judgments? What a mess that would be. Every teacher fired would claim racism or sexism or age discrimination or this administrator has a personal conflict with me. And truth be told, I’ve personally witnessed all of those. There simply have to be quantitative measurements of a teacher’s success/failure. I’m not saying that a single, nationwide standardized student test is the only answer. But using student progress as one measure of a teacher’s effectiveness is perfectly legitimate.

    I’ll not sit here and pretend I have some kind of cure-all solution. I agree with you, what we have currently just simply is not working.

  • rockymtn1776

    How and why was this allowed to go on for over 10 years ? WHY isn’t the black community screaming their heads off over this ? Where is the Rev. Je$$ie Jack$on, Al $harpton and Rev. ?? Wright ? Protecting those in ones own race who are doing wrong to children is the worst type of racism ! Same on all of you !

  • rightwingmom52

    and even the other teachers know who the bad teachers are and often want them gone. What often makes the evaluations and firing even more difficult in smaller towns where everybody knows everybody is because the admins often know the whole family of the bad teacher. My sister was a teacher for years and has been an assistant principal at the local high school in a small town in TN for a couple of years now. She is ecstatic that the school board passed on local apps for the head principal job and hired a new guy from Indiana who is shaking things up because he doesn’t know or care who’s related to whom.

  • flannery

    ” now we see what happens when the federal government gets involved in education.”

    Now we see what happens when the federal government gets involved. When the federal government comes with its big money and one size fits all solutions, we get these results. We don’t have a water problem, never have had a water problem, yet I can’t buy a workable non-bureaucrat designed toilet. I live were there are four foot snowdrifts, yet some other bureaucrat thinks that I should drive the 20 miles into town in a bureaucrat designed electric Speck. Federal government involvement in market or local matters is the single best indicator of pending failure.

  • flannery

    nt

  • http://impudent.edublogs.org/ kyle8

    is choice. With school choice, then parents have the power over who teaches their children.

  • runner12

    When NCLB was passed, many people (including myself) initially cheered because we thought we finally had the means to hold teachers accountable ( I was barely in college at the time and therefore largely ignorant).
    What I and many others forgot was that almost all programs that are governed and instituted by the Feds end up to be corrupted bureaucracies that causes more harm than good. As a result of the NCLB monstrousity, very little learning occurs in schools and cheating and “teaching to the test” are rampant.

    Common sense would tell you that teacher accountability can and should occur at the local level, just like in the private sector. However, the unions often, if not always, hamper the efforts of principals to fire bad teachers. They would have to be dealt with in order for any true, local reform to occur.

  • http://www.erickerickson.org Erick Erickson

    I think you have to have standardized testing of basic skills to help kids. But the incentives program needs to stop and there are other ways to check on teach performance.

  • carolina

    in the marketplace is the only way to “protect schools against themselves”. Our current public school system has evolved into something that belongs in the old Soviet Union. It is failing wide open just like the Soviet Union.

  • http://whattoreadtoday.blogspot.com/ Paula

    I agree with you in principle, but I think it can be both/and rather than either/or. Ohio’s latest budget includes a bounty of $17/head for high-performing schools, based (mostly) on test scores and graduation rates. That will do almost nothing to improve student achievement (though it may improve their test-taking skills and ability to regurgitate a few facts).

    SB5, Gov. Kasich’s union reform bill, includes provisions to scrap automatic step increases and tenure (which teachers can now get after 3 years). If it holds up to the referendum vote in November (it likely won’t) teachers will see performance pay for teachers. The State Board of Education will be charged with coming up with a system for evaluation that will include student achievement. Kasich has been very vocal about soliciting teacher input. Mostly they’ve been screaming about him “destroying the middle class.”

    Knowing SB5 probably won’t stand, Kasich also put a mandate for performance pay in the budget he signed last week. All districts that are receiving RtTT money are required to implement it (by federal mandate).

    Really, though, how can it be unfair to give some credit or blame to a teacher whose students don’t make any quantifiable gains from year to year? To not include achievement testing in a teacher’s evaluation would put them completely at the mercy of a principal or administrator who doesn’t like that teacher or is just a jerk.

  • kowalski

    You can’t stop at the mid-level managers and the abused teachers. This goes straight to the top — not just in the APS, but in the entire country. The Atlanta Public Schools were a big recipient of both Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation and General Electric money. Their superintendent was named “Superintendent of the YEAR” in 2009 and was the Chair of the Board of Advisors of Harvard’s program that conferred doctoral degrees on other aspiring superintendents around the country. And Barack Obama named Beverly Hall to a “Key Administration Post” back on May 27, 2010, when Hall became a Nominee for Membership on the National Board of Education Sciences.

    http://www.whitehouse.gov/the-press-office/president-obama-announces-more-key-administration-posts-52710

    Of course it was impossible to turn around Atlanta Public Schools in the time Beverly Hall had to do it. But the important thing is keeping the money flowing and the reputation growing. So there was a mafia-like atmosphere that included cheating at every level to make sure that the important people go the money and the accolades and the children got not just screwed, but utterly debased. Now it’s revealed that they don’t even know how to read in a lot of cases.

    It was just the money and the careerism, promulgated by Harvard, Obama, and the Atlanta Public School system. It’s simple..

    It works like every other entrenched bureaucracy: When you can’t win, cheat, and enrich the administrators. And most of all, provide plausible deniability to the top administrators.

    Nobody in the White House Press Pool has asked Carney about Obama’s role in this complete debauchment of Atlanta Public Schools —

    And nobody ever will.

  • kowalski

    You pay big money to Harvard to get the credentials…

    And you are presided over by an Advisory Board that features the Cheater in Chief as the Chairwoman.

    Somehow, that makes your degree legitimate under the Obama Administration.

    It’s so totally *****d up that even the Harvard Graduate School of Education forgot how to count when all of this was revealed to be true.

    The entire mantra seems to have been: “Just Cheat.”

    Wasted years, wasted lives, and most importantly wasted money on people who absolutely could not and should never have been trusted to do anything but leave their jobs and work at Starbucks.

  • http://www.erickerickson.org Erick Erickson

    It sounds like a no brainer, but if the teacher is an inner city school teacher and the majority of her students come from dysfunctional homes and can barely read and write to begin with, how is it the teacher’s fault? Likewise, a principal or administrator could stick a disproportionate number of problem kids in one class to make it hard for one teacher.

    Why not let the administrators do their jobs on deciding who are and are not the good teachers.

  • kowalski

    At least, Bill Gates has gotten one answer to his questions at TED a couple of years ago regardining measurability and teacher’s unions. What he should find, if he has any intellectual honesty at all I’m sure he can discern that the comprehensive and institutionally supported answer in the Atlata Public Schools was: “CHEAT.”

  • Finrod

    The problem with local evaluation is that it will encourage a ‘you scratch my back and I’ll scratch yours’ mentality where teachers that can’t teach their students a bloody thing will get excellent reviews because they were the high school quarterback that led the team to a state title or they are friends at the local Rotary with whoever is doing the evaluations or any of a hundred other reasons.

    In other words, the evaluations will be subjective, not objective, and will be worthless.

  • kowalski

    It could still be that the best thing BillG ever did was drop of out of Harvard. Looking at this ridiculous and completely predictable debacle, I’d be glad if I did too. :)

  • Finrod

    Have kids tested twice: once at the beginning of the year and once at the end. Have half of the evaluation be how well the kids are doing overall, and have the other half be how much the kids have improved from test 1 to test 2.

  • http://whattoreadtoday.blogspot.com/ Paula

    My background is in homeschooling, I enrolled my oldest kid in public school last year so he could attend college full time, on the state. He walked in off the street and aced the Ohio Graduation Test because he’s good at taking tests, even though we hadn’t even covered much of the content on the test (especially in “social studies”). Of course, Ohio’s Graduation Test is a 10th grade proficiency test!! It only proved that he’s a good test taker. So I put very little stock in standardized testing in the first place.

    Ohio’s homeschooling regs require either a standardized test every year or a certified teacher declaring that “a portfolio of samples of the child?s work has been reviewed and that the child?s academic progress for the year is in accordance with the child?s abilities.”

    Therein lies the key. Rather than comparing students with others of the same age (an extremely arbitrary baseline), their progress is assessed from year to year against their own previous scores/achievement, assuring that they are indeed making progress.Regardless of the socio-economic level of the parents, regardless of the quality of the building, regardless of even the salary of the teachers, a decent teacher will be able to coax some progress out of his or her students. There are plenty of success stories to prove that.

    I think leaving it in the hands of administrators wouldn’t make anyone very happy. It’s bound to be too subjective and the administrators are too entrenched in the union mentality. How would you get rid of a bad teacher?

    My younger son started school this year (11th grade) in a school with 350 students and one principal. Would he be the sole decider? Would they bring in outside deciders?

    What would you base merit pay on? Nice bulletin boards? Good Powerpoint presentations? Popularity? Good and useful skills, to be certain, but at some point, you have to factor in whether or not that teacher is actually teaching the children anything.

  • http://whattoreadtoday.blogspot.com/ Paula

    Juan Williams, for one. He’s a huge proponent of charter schools and school choice. I heard him speak alongside Hugh Hewitt and Ohio Treasurer (and senate candidate?) Josh Mandel earlier this year. He considers it a civil rights issue.

    Al Sharpton was for school choice before he decided vouchers were racist. Last year he came to Akron to defend a black mother who was convicted of a felony for falsifying (lots and lots of) documents in order to enroll her kids in a school in a district in which she didn’t live.

    At a rally Sharpton organized for the mother he said, “I think that tonight showed we can pull a crowd.” So that’s how he really feels about school choice.

  • aesthete

    with an average of 85% or higher, and have them write up anonymous evaluations of teachers. More often than not, the students who are at least paying attention know who the bad teachers are.

  • aesthete

    Especially since oftentimes the problem is with administration, and not teachers.

    It’s worth noting that other labor markets where quantitative measurement is difficult to ascertain work much better than the government-dominated ed labor market — the software development markets, for example.

  • http://whattoreadtoday.blogspot.com/ Paula

    David Brooks has some insightful thoughts on testing:

    “The places where the corrosive testing incentives have had their worst effect are not in the schools associated with the reformers. They are in the schools the reformers haven?t touched. These are the mediocre schools without strong leaders and without vibrant missions. In those places, of course, the teaching-to-the-test ethos prevails. There is no other.

    The reform movement is most famous for tests and assessments. But the untrumpeted and undeveloped secret of the reform movement is the content ? the willingness to develop character curriculum or Core Knowledge curriculum, the willingness to infuse the school with spiritual fervor.

    [Diane] Ravitch thinks the solution is to get rid of the tests. But that way just leads to lethargy and perpetual mediocrity. The real answer is to keep the tests and the accountability but make sure every school has a clear sense of mission, an outstanding principal and an invigorating moral culture that hits you when you walk in the door.”

  • acat

    with an appeals process for students who don’t test well.

    Standardized testing plus an essay component, judged by outsiders.

    That last bit is the key, really. The tests should be, ideally, administered via the internet, so nobody at the school knows who’s doing the grading, and those doing the grading don’t know the students, something close to a double-blind protocol.

    Separate the responsibilty for teaching from the responsibility for measuring it and let the chips (or merit increases) fall where they may.

    (of course, the unions will pitch a fit)

    Mew

  • http://whattoreadtoday.blogspot.com/ Paula

    Mew….

    That’s a good point (and, inadvertently, a bad point). Depending on the school, it may be all about the ACT/SAT score or it may be only a factor. Some large state universities have so many students to “process” that they don’t have time to look at much more than a test score. The same thing happens in the large urban public schools (see Atlanta). But then, they’re merely looking for minimum standards, which demonstrate “college readiness.” Some recent studies have shown that only the reading and math scores are good predictors of college readiness, but that’s another discussion.

    Some states actually do use the ACT for their proficiency testing. The problem is that it doesn’t really test content knowledge. For example, the science section of the ACT doesn’t test your knowledge of biology or chemistry. It tests your ability to read charts and interpret data.

    The best schools – mostly of the smaller, private, liberal arts variety – evaluate the student on much broader criterion. My son attends Hillsdale College and they have a very holistic application process. They took into account his ACT score, GPA (though as a homeschooler, that was probably less of a factor), extracurricular activities, leadership experience, letters of recommendation, essays, and an interview.

    It was similar at another private school he applied to, except that – no kidding – he was asked to recite the Gettysburg Address during the interview!

    The problem the colleges have is that high school standards vary from school to school and from state to state. They have no way of knowing how rigorous a high school’s program is or if there is grade inflation. That’s why many of them are demanding the Common Core – so everyone can be evaluated under the same low standards.

    So it’s a catch-22. We (at least I) don’t want national standards, but we want some objective way for our kids to be evaluated for college admission.We don’t want a one-size-fits-all test, but we recognize that colleges and universities (especially the mega-schools) need some way to evaluate huge numbers of students. And this trickles right on down to the local level.

  • acat

    We either need to accept that a high school diploma (or a GED) has no consistent value, or we need a national minimum standard for what a diploma-carrying student is capable of doing, an idea of what common cultural frame of reference a student would have.

    This applies not just to getting into college, by the way .. and that leads us to the issue of “if this goes on?” That is, what happens if a diploma has no value, and the schools aren’t actually teaching? Quite simple – and it’s already happening – business will step up the testing of applicants.

    To borrow from manufacturing, the “product” of schools are citizens, with employment as a by-product…. and if schools no longer reliably produce qualified candidates, then employers will do their own quality control.

    I’m not going to say that schools should be run more like businesses (perish the thought!) but I will say that schools could (dare I say must?) learn a thing or three from proper best practices in quality control. Things like separating the responsibility for administering the test from preparing the test-candidate.

    Hardly a new idea, after all the wine critic for the NYT administers the test of a vineyards’ product, but have nothing to do with the actual growing or fermenting of the wine, eh?

    Mew

  • acat

    Have students take the standardized tests online, grading to be done instantly, by a machine.

    If there’s an essay component, then dump any info regarding the student and send it to a random teacher in the same discipline in a different part of the State for evaluation. Teacher evaluates, without knowing who the student is, and enters the grade online.

    Double-blind. The student can’t know how to “shade” the essay for the teacher, the teachers can’t know who the essay authors are.

    The term “separation of duties” is key .. and the unions will scream… but then, they’ve done this to themselves.

    Mew

  • bcomber38

    I think whenever the gov.gets involved they dumb down to the lowest child in the school.That way everyone is a dummy.A smart student is kept back so as not to embarass the dummies.This program destroys the child who wants to learn.

  • bk

    APS is >80% black, and this is the worst form of racism possible. It’s not just a matter of “teaching the test” instead of teaching kids how to think or how to learn – not even being able to teach the test, they just cheated … Cheated the mostly black kids out of any hope of ever getting a decent education by placing them at grade levels where they don’t belong and will never be able to catch up.

    I’m guessing that instead of screaming about the racism of the school administrators and teachers, whom I’m guessing are mostly black and no doubt nearly all liberals, liberals will blame George Bush and the racist GOP for failing to “fully fund” NCLB. After all, how can you expect a kid to get a decent education for only $12,325/year as is done in APS? Sigh…

  • davesinsanantonio

    just need to get the federal government out of the states’ business and let the states decide how to do it. As they did for well over a century before the lust for power overcame the so-called Washington elites. (They are really only elite in their own eyes. They are just regular schmos with a lust for power.)
    The Dept. of Ed. should be abolished and let Commerce report the learning of the students from each state and then the parents/voters can decide what to do with their state’s results.

  • dalebret

    So I’m doing a “Reply to This”
    The posting re NCLB/Atlanta cheating is perhaps the only totally stupid posting I’ve seen on Red State. The logic is clear: if there were no laws Atlanta school folks could not break them. What a concept!
    A really nasty error is applying the progressivist logic: “success is impossible for the downtrodden so cheating is OK”
    In fact, students just like those in Atlanta can succeed and there is ample evidence of that; yes, some children in poverty have no fathers, druggy mothers, twinky breakfasts, etc. yes, it is true such children tend not to succeed given “normal” schooling; no, it is not true that such children cannot succeed given high quality teaching. I have personally seen such success and can refer the author of the piece to solid published evidence.

  • lbyron

    But it isn’t the test’s fault that the teachers and principals lack morals and character.

    Let’s face it though, the tests just aren’t that hard. Teaching to the test is ridiculous, if teachers taught the students what they are supposed to be learning, then the tests would not be a problem.

  • jrfoleyjr

    …when you say you can produce it?

    dalebret said: “I have personally seen such success and can refer the author of the piece to solid published evidence.”

    So produce this SOLID PUBLISHED EVIDENCE. [...or a link to it so we can examine it for ourselves!]

    I am sure that Atlanta had solid published evidence that their system was working too. [...until they were caught.]

  • http://www.thepurpleheart.com/recipient/RecipientDetails.aspx?wid=7f39cbbe-5213-4983-9702-50132a1c73 rsmith7042

    After a 26 year military career I entered teaching through the troops to Teachers Program. I have had an epiphany recently regarding the vile, vulgar, foul, loud, and criminal behavior of inner city kids, where I taught for three of my five years. They have no respect for any adults, especially teachers, and even less respect for white teachers. This is because their parents do not, and did not in school. We are trying to teach the children and grandchildren of people who are racist, do not value education, and see all white persons as evil. I noticed quickly that they treat black teachers and principals with disrespect, but with slightly less intensity. Places like Spencer, OK and South Central LA, and Oakland, have to fix their communities and cultures. White people cannot do it for them. I focused on the honor kids, who wanted to learn, spoke English properly, did their work and respected their elders. I was told by one Mom that their children did not need to respect any adult other than her. Her kid was a liar, thief, and failing student. It is not a teacher’s responsibility to overcome apathy and bad parenting.

  • freedom37

    This surely smashes to smithereens the concept that all people are equal regardless of class, religion, race, doesn’t it? So long as we have wrong concepts of life, mistakes will be made, regardless in what we busy ourselves. Do a little Googling on Abe Lincoln and see his take on so-called “equality”. Why do we go on fooling ourselves, upholding the old unproven concepts that only get us into trouble? We will never create utopia on this sick earth, so let’s turn our attention to matters of importance like working for peace and happiness, which means cleaning up local, state, and federal governments, Congress, and Marxist influences everywhere. Then we won’t be so occupied with false ideas of equality.

  • gunslingr45

    more like ANYTHING!

    ?When school children start paying union dues, that?s when I?ll start representing the interests of school children.?-Albert Shanker, past president of the American Federation of Teachers (AFT).

  • 4suramcan

    which are the majority, can be led around by the nose, in whichever direction our corrupt gov. decides to lead them.

  • LDahl752

    “teaching to the test.” What if even they did not know what was in the test? What if they taught from the textbook and were determined to teach the class as much as possible from that book during the school year? Then, the kids would be tested, and nobody but an EXTERNAL evaluator would know how productive that school year was for that teacher and his/her students. Plus, that would function as a basis for the teacher’s next year’s raise. Unions wouldn’t go for it, most likely, but when and how are taxpayers going to feel their tax dollars are being spent wisely?

    If the “standard” test would be observed by an uninterested monitor, who then gathers them and puts them in a sealed envelope and is responsible for mailing them to an independent evaluator, wouldn’t that eliminate (most of) the opportunity for cheating?

  • Ned Reck

    (to be said if I were a typical… non-thinkin’ liberal… but excuse my redundancy)

    “No wonder this happened… they’re just not payin’ them teachers enough not to cheat!”

    Ned Reck

  • roadrage

    but the DOE needs to be defunded and exterminated. Our money could be spent in more useful ways to help scholl children than using these standardized tests. Cheating, how is that helping educate our children? Give the power back to the states. The federal Govt messes up everything it gets involved with.
    Just my opinion.

  • roadrage

    but the DOE needs to be defunded and exterminated. Our money could be spent in more useful ways to help scholl children than using these standardized tests. Cheating, how is that helping educate our children? Give the power back to the states. The federal Govt messes up everything it gets involved with.
    Just my opinion.

  • blooch

    A good rule of thumb is that when one of the bureaucratic elite gets a promotion, or makes a lateral move to a new locale, he or she has done something really horrendousand/or been completely ineffectual. Yet people who make statements like this:

    ?Just as the Catholic Church moved pedophile priests around to different churches when things got too hot, Murdoch will simply move these reporters to the US where they can continue to use these techniques at Fox News.?

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/social/wforvendetta/news-of-the-world-journal_n_844843_83390507.html

    are continually shocked and amazed when they discover how inept and corrupt their old “new” mayor or superintendent or sheriff in town long was, long after he or she has moved on to work magic on the next unsuspecting venue.

  • Finrod

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