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When The Boys In Leadership Flee, Will The Freedom Fighters in the House Hold the Line?

Tuesday night felt pretty good, didn’t it? The House GOP, joined by five Democrats, voted for Cut, Cap, and Balance. Finally, the House led on solid reform to turn the tide. Senators got active quickly to undermine the effort and still the House held the line.

Great, wasn’t it? The Gang of 234 stood for freedom and, as an added bonus, gave a wonderful middle finger to the Gang of 6 and its plan to raise taxes more than any other Congress in the history of the Republic all while pretending its offering up tax cuts.

All the while, even as members of the House were voting, the Republican Leaders in the House were conspiring against House members to cut their legs out from under them.

Reporters are starting to whisper to each other and some are even starting to write about it. John Boehner and Eric Cantor are ready to give up. The vote was just for show. They think because Cut, Cap, and Balance won’t pass the Senate, it is time to embrace either MItch McConnell or Gang of Six. It’s sad that House leaders want their own to pick their poison, Pontius Pilate or Gangrene. Fellas, if you haven’t noticed, poison kills you.

But it’s not just that. House Leaders want to also throw in a few smoke and mirrors. They want a “short term deal”. Have we not punted enough? Have we not kicked the can down the road enough? We don’t need a short term deal. We don’t need to waiver. We don’t need to falter. We don’t need to fail. We need to hold the freaking line. We’ve got a plan, folks. Respect the plan.

When the boys in leadership run off the battlefield, will the freedom fighters in the House hold the line?

We’ve seen this before. The House leaders rallied the troops to vote for Paul Ryan‘s plan and then ran from it as far as possible. Heck, they even sent Paul Ryan into the witness protection program during the debt ceiling fight.

You House guys were getting shot up and leadership was hiding or trying to cut deals behind your back. That’s apparently the nature of Republican Leadership.

But this all begs a question — having now stood on principle, having held the line, having set out a vision for America that doesn’t bankrupt us, will you hold still that line?

The Senate is going to push a vote on Saturday for your legislation. Then your leaders in the House and the guys in the Senate will say, “See?! Your plan can’t pass. Do it our way.” Why should you, though, who held the line give deference to them?

I think more and more you might need to consider something a bit radical to the good government types in Washington — hold the line and don’t take the deal.

For the next few weeks, they will bully you, flog you, scare you, and scare your constituents. Hold fast. The same people who have gotten us into this mess want you to believe they will now get us out of this mess.

Hold fast. Hold fast. As Allen West would say — steadfast and loyal. Your leadership won’t be. But now is your time to lead. Now is your time to save the country. Don’t be afraid of deadlines. Be afraid of selling out the country with a bad deal just for the sake of a deal.

On August 2nd, you hold all the cards.

COMMENTS

  • Spiral

    The reality is the significant spending cuts can’t pass while Democrats are in power.

    It would be nice if there were a large conservative wing to the Democrat party in the US Senate and Obama was a conservative Democrat. But it’s really just the opposite.

    Most Congressional Democrats think that spending cuts would be “mean, cruel and harsh” (I know, call 1-800-Wah-Wah-Wah) but think spending cuts would hurt the economy, based on their belief in Keynsian economics.

    On the other hand, the Republicans should not accept any tax increases. None. Zip. Zero. Nada.

    So, given that the Democrats won’t support significant spending cuts and the GOP should not support tax increases, what’s the solution?

    Easy.

    [1] Raise the debt limit to avoid the United States welching on its legal/financial obligations.

    [2] Defeat Obama and the Harry Reid controlled Senate in 2012.

    [3] With a Republican President, Republican US Senate and Republican US House in January 2013, get about the business of cutting spending without raising taxes.

    It’s not complicated. It’s called representative democracy.

  • sowa1

    Democrats put us in this mess, but will do nothing to get us out. There is nothing wrong with Cut, Cap and Balance. Let the States decide if they want a balanced budget Amendment to the Constitution. After all, we, the people, are paying for this mess. Why are there no cuts to Staff, Gov’t workers,etc.??? Just heard the Congress ;has given themselves $3,000 cost of living increase. Seniors have not had one in two years.

  • rightwardmarch

    Did it “feel good”? Yeah maybe, but is that what we’ve been reduced to now, just being thankful for feeling good? Maybe the right and the left really are coming together…

    Feel good if you must, it won’t hurt anything, but it won’t do a lick for the fiscal condition of this country either. I’m not against feel-good votes, but I’m certainly not satisfied with them. And you know what, seeing as how they usually take the place of real votes that would actually impact this country’s debt outlook, they often end up making me feel pretty bad. And here we go again, already getting the hard sell on the “feel good” mattering more than the real votes to come.

    Cut the deficit now, and pass a budget in 2012. Have as many feel-good votes and throw as many middle fingers as necessary along the way – but don’t tell me they matter.

  • bcomber38

    The republicans are wusses.I don’t trust them or the leadership?I don’t think 2012 is going to make things better.The american voters showed their colors in last election.No pun intended.obama srarts off with maybe 50% of the vote.The takers will all vote for obama and there are many.I’m so fed up I don’t care if the goverment shuts down.I hope it does.Maybe save a few bucks while It’s down.Send all the congress home and don’t pay them or their staff.Lets see what happens when the president doesn’t get paid.

  • davesinsanantonio

    when they refuse to represent us???
    We just won a landslide victory in the House, and a bunch of seats in the Senate, and they refuse to listen to what we tell them!!!
    The “reality” is that we cannot give the libs and the wimps/weasels any tax increases or we will just ruin this country even faster than we are on pace to do it now. No matter what they promise, they will not cut spending in any significant way. So, we must cut off their source of funds. And, to do some real good we must cut spending now. To insist on a “deal” just to get a deal is to accept just a little quicker destruction of the country. We won’t stand for it!!!!
    As regards your number [1], we won’t need to welch on our legal or financial obligations, that will be Obummer’s choice. We have enough revenue coming in to pay our legal obligations. If we do not it is because he chooses to spend those funds elsewhere.
    As regards your number [2], if we give in now, what incentive will the voters have to support us in 2012??? If our promises from last November were not kept, why should they trust us in the next election???
    But more than that, if we make a deal that will hasten the downfall of America, why should ANYONE vote for us again!!!??? You may dream that we can weasel out now and win big next time, but the mood of the majority of Americans is that if we do not hold the line, there will be no “next time” for us. They sent us ( and the Dems too) a clear message last time. The Dems are ignoring it, even pretending that if was them who won big. If we ignore it, this country is finished, no matter what cutesy/cuddly “deal” we make to pretend otherwise!!!
    So, stop with silly wishful thinking that we “can pick up a turd by the clean end”!!!

  • trutexan

    they will fall on the floor, kick, scream, bite, hit, and throw the biggest tantrum without caring about who sees them or hears. The intent is to mortify the caregiver into acquiescing to demands and let them have their way. It?s the bad parent who gives in thereby sending the message that if they scream loud enough, they will win. After I got my butt swatted in the toy aisle a couple of times I learned ?No means No?.

    Stand fast representatives and do what I sent you up there to do. I’m a 29 year veteran. I fought for you – now it’s your turn. Prayers for strength.

  • anjinconsulting

    should be a camapign issue in every primary in every state; every incumbent who went along to get along should be challenged.

    Since all bills appropriating funds must be initiated in the House, Mitch and his junta, and the usual agitators on the other side really cannot do anything unless their version of surrender is sponsored by some weasel or party hack and gets set loose in the House. House freshmen and their supporters should politely and publicly tell the Senate that anything legislation initiated by them will be rejected as unconstitutional, and that anything they try to have introduced as a bill in the House will be sequestered in some dusty pigeon hole.

  • mirac777

    CCB is common sense economics. I find it to be very pathetic when we have the S&P and Moodys telling us we need to borrow trillions of more dollars in debt…. to somehow “protect” our AAA credit rating? Think about that. Just how does a country with 14.5T in debt have an AAA rating to start with, while we currently have a housing market in crisis, a mortgage fraud cyclone that will hurt everyone even more in the coming year, a shrunken manufacturing sector, UE at 9.2% still, and over half the states teetering on the brink of insolvency.

    The very same Moody’s and S&P that said all those mortgage securities were AAA rated, and then when they ended up not worth 3 cents on the dollar. caused the mortgage/banking crisis? Why in the hell should we EVER listen to those government puppets ever again? Wake up people.

    FYI, we needed the CCB vote. We need to have them every session unil Nov 2012, just so we can watch these tyrants squirm when they are forced to choose between big daddy government bankruptcy or fiscal sanity. It is that simple. Now many, many U S Senators that are up for re-election in 2012 will have to show their true colors on CCB. 23 of them are Democrats.Take notes, save the their votes for the summer of 2012. Then make them go home and beg for votes while we get to show their constituencies just how they voted to bankrupt their country. This so-called feel good vote will serve a purpose in the 2012 elections.

  • ag8tor

    WITHOUT much leadership. These 234 are a refreshing change from the spineless so-called conservatives that have been caving to the slightest pressure. Unfortunately the senate is in the same shape as far as Republicans are concerned. I have wirtten to Saxby Chambliss expressing my disappointment in his putting political gain over the will of the people. This will continue to be the case and Dems will get their way until we elect some true conservatives that will stand their ground on principle rather than politics. This may be the sleaziest group to ever call themselves Senators. It is painfully obvious that we have NO representation there. Please tell your friends and acquaintences to remember these non-leaders and friends of “O” during the next election.

  • rj145

    With all this talk about a Republican sweep in 2012, the party “leadership” is overlooking one thing. Their performance thus far offers little incentive for independents and undecided voters to vote them in. Instead of demonstrating strength and resolve, we have seeing vacillation and weakness under the guise of “bipartisanship”. Pathetic!

  • djvu

    Let us all stick together on this!

  • mjdzfun

    Please, hold the line.

  • babykaboomer

    How many times have you seen Republican control of the House represented that way? I’m sick of it! Why do we never read that the democrats only control 1/2 of the Senate? The implication, of course, is that the House of Representatives, the “People’s House” is the lesser of the two, at least when the dems are not in charge. For once, just once, stand firm on principle and force them to compromise on our terms!

  • bcomber38

    It aint over till It’s over.Senate has to sign on.Don’t celebrate till It’s done.I’m not optimistic.I’m waiting for the fail.

  • Marcus_Traianus

    On a hot 23rd of July in 1787, James Madison said this while contemplating our Constitution;

    “It could not be presumed that all or even a majority of the members of an Assembly would either lose their capacity for discharging, or be bribed to betray, their trust. Besides the restraints of their personal integrity & honor, the difficulty of acting in concert for purposes of corruption was a security to the public. And if one or a few members only should be seduced, the soundness of the remaining members, would maintain the integrity and fidelity of the body. In the case of the Executive Magistracy which was to be administered by a single man, loss of capacity or corruption was more within the compass of probable events, and either of them might be fatal to the Republic.”

    He had faith that in dire situations a majority would not betray their sacred trust to the people they serve and yield to the trappings of power. Do you, members of Congress, have the same faith in yourselves?

    Corruption takes many forms. One of them is yielding to “leadership” that has lost its moral compass, developed legislative schemes in private- without the consent and participation of other members, and wields coercion as a means of corrupting otherwise good, well-intentioned men to abandon the trust placed in them by their electors.

  • ningrim

    is Obama’s birthday on August 4.

    If he holds a giant party in the midst of a budget crisis it would be a defining moment of his Presidency.

    And it would take an act of God for him to cancel his birthday, he and Michelle live for the adoration and the glitz and glamor.

    Obama wants to say, “I got a deal done, now let’s go party”. The media will love it. The POTUS celebrating his victory after a tireless effort.

  • BigRedConservative

    He is a human being after all. You can both celebrate one’s birthday and run the country without compromising either.

  • silentcal2012

    All kinds of criticism, but no solutions. The Senate is not going to vote on the House plan, as you admit. If August second comes with no deal, there will be negative ripples throughout the economy that will be blamed on the GOP, giving Obama and his team an “out” on being solely responsible for this terrible economy. What are you holding out for? A lower credit rating, a tanking stock market, global embarrassment, the assault on Republicans for harming the economy?

  • keysconservative

    as usual we’re losing it in the media. I would wager most Americans didn’t even hear about the CCB passage in the house because of the (near) media blackout and full court press pushing the G6 deal. Every time we face a crisis there are the Dems in front of every news camera in the nation slinging their lies and dis-information and the compliant media mouthpieces parroting their DNC talking points. It’s time for the Repubs to fight back and I’m not talking about the House floor where all we hear about from MSM is how despicable Allen West is for insulting Wasserman-Schultz. How about a media blitz of our own? The following ad is extremely effective and targets the insane Govt. spending in Washington. Watch it. Share it.

    http://youtu.be/5k_TLz_f8SU

  • steve53

    Tea paty movement wants to defeat our enemies? We need to remove those who do not fear God from our ranks. The Ron and Rand Paul supporters. Make no mistake about it, those who are against Israel, are against Israel’s God. Republicans need God’s blessing to win.

  • gpclaw

    she signed the CCB pledge on Monday, but voted against the bill on Tuesday.

  • gunslingr45

    Who told you we wanted to? I will admit I am confused. Your name is rightwardmarch, but you seem to me to be walking left to meet in the middle.
    All the “middle fingers” are not so much about feeling good as they are letting the socialist know “we ain’t going your way.”

    Socialism, billions dead, but they keep trying it….

  • westcoastpatriette

    Providing sympathy for the devil.

    I am curious as to why you hang around RedState and continue to side with the turncoat–McConnell. What’s up with that?

  • gunslingr45

    you think he will hold up his own check like the seniors? I won’t hold my breath waiting on that one.

    It sucks to be a liberal when you run out of OPM (other people’s money.)

  • JSobieski

    Bachmann pledged to oppose any increase in the debt limit. She also pledged to support a constitutional amendment. Those two pledges were in conflict with each other in that the amendment was tied to an increase in the debt limit.

  • mkozikowski

    We being Conservatives, Republicans and those brave 5 Democrats.

    Stand strong.

    Stand for the Freedom of the country, financial security of the future, and a Government Of, By and For the People

  • http://lazarusreport.blogtownhall.com/ Tom Lesser

    When the going gets tough, Republicans become RINOs.

  • curtmilr

    Marcus_Trianus,
    EXCELLENT post!
    I’ve said before that in the short term kicking the can with real cuts is the way to go. But the cuts must be real, and now, not in 2013 & beyond. There should be less borrowing authority extended than the near term spending cuts,
    Yes, this will create slight economic headwinds, but they will be rather nebulously connected and that is the price we pay to address the problems. The alternative is more of the same, and national bankruptcy.
    This tactic also blunts the Obama blame game. We avoid a shut down blamed on us, move the ball incrementally down the field.
    Repeat this tactic once or twice more before the 2012 elections, which will only reinforce the lack of leadership and consensus building Obama has consistently provided. Then run against him on that, and the Obamacare cramdown, and sweep him and the Dem Senate majority out like the garbage they are.

  • red_oakster

    Boehner and Cantor are nothing if not extremely responsive to their caucus. Much more likely, the issue is that the caucus itself is either hopelessly split (I doubt it given Tuesday’s vote) or heavily against going into default as the price for calling Obama’s bluff (much more likely given the fact that all the top conservative economic gurus are telling them not to allow a default).

    My guess is that Boehner and Cantor actually reflect the wishes of their caucus pretty darn perfectly.

  • BA Cyclone

    And words cannot express my thanks for your service.

  • BA Cyclone

    It’s not a matter of fact.

    The House has already passed a compromise bill that raises the debt ceiling, and frankly has ridiculously modest near-term fiscal cuts.

    In fact, if the Democrats had passed a bill in similar fashion, we’d all be hearing about it being BIPARTISAN.

    Hold the line. The compromise is on the table already. If the Democrats want to play chicken, let them. The ridiculous cuts happen on August 2nd, if THE DEMOCRATS do nothing.

  • steve53

    Reagan believed the very heart and soul of conservatism is libertarianism? Libertarianism is the absence of conscience. Ron Paul libertarianism will destroy the Republican party from within. Libertarianism is godless, as are both Ron and Rand Paul.

  • carolina

    There is supposed to be a vote today to reduce House spending by 6%. They can lead by example.
    With all of the committees and committee staff, 6% should be easy to find.

  • carolina

    There is supposed to be a vote today to reduce House spending by 6%. They can lead by example.
    With all of the committees and committee staff, 6% should be easy to find.

  • Tbone

    Surely he isn’t being this pusillanimous for free.

  • BA Cyclone

    Frankly I am a Bachmann supporter, but I think she could easily have split those hairs by voting in favor of the bill on Tuesday.

    “No votes for raising the debt limit” is an easy record to sell, and I suppose it is valuable to keep that record 100% to some extent. However I also firmly believe in the CCB agenda. It will be a VERY difficult sell to proffer the cuts required to balance the budget in one year. President Obama and the previous Democrat Congresses put us in the position to authorize a higher limit in the short term, until the budget can feasibly be balanced.

    I think she is going to have to put forward a definitive plan outline that balances the budget NOW, or at least in a far more agressive schedule than Tuesday’s proposal, to make political hay out of this outside a purely populist angle.

  • silentcal2012

    Conservatives are focused on the budget, spending and debt, but their are economic and market factors at play. All the tough talk is little solace for those who will watch their portofolios tank during August, and employers recoil. Now, Obama owns this, after 8/2 the media and the Obama election team will make the GOP a co-conspirator to this mess. They are giving you the rope to hang yourself, and gung-ho conservatives are buying this crap, hook , line and sinker.

  • carolina

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  • Tbone

    After all, evidently it’s not like he or anyone else still living knows when it was.

  • Christian

    Don’t forget Republiicans also have appointed 5 of 9 Supreme Court justices and most of the sitting appeals court judges.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Federal_judicial_appointment_history

    The “1/2 of 1/3″ thing is just plain wrong.

  • http://jhpruitt.blogtownhall.com/ kipling

    The level of defeatism in some of these comments is alarming. Too many accept the Democratic version of reality and attempt to play on their uneven playing field.

    I am tired of hearing about the false “reality” – the Democratic version.

    The truth is that the American people do not want the debt ceiling raised without significant cuts in spending. The American people overwhelmingly oppose raising taxes. The American people disapprove of how the Republican leadership is handling the situation because the Republicans come across as weasel politicians who will cut and run. How do I know? Because the American people also disapprove of how the Democrats are handling the situation.

    Our reality should line up with the truth not Democratic talking points. Reality should be that tax increases and massive spending bills have no chance of passage as long as the Republicans hold the House. Too many complain that the Senate will block Republican efforts in the House. Why do they not see that it can and should work the same way in reverse?

  • Scope

    signed the pledge because DeMint said unless any candidates do so, he and his conservative PAC would not support them. I love DeMint, but I think he was wrong to threaten anyone with a pledge. Most pledges get broken eventually anyway.

  • http://www.hakubi.us/ Neil Stevens

    The Supreme Court is non-partisan.

    And anyone who’s the least bit educated on the history of the court knows that partisan appointment history doesn’t necessarily predict future judicial activism levels.

  • bclare

    All it takes to win this war on spending is 3 easy steps. (3 battles so to speak)
    1. Whenever anyone from any side says their plan will reduce the deficit by XXX trillions of dollars ask this question,” by what date will the deficit be reduced and on this date what will the DEBT be”? Simple. Now go out and holler like hell that all the current rancor is not beginning to solve the problem and that the answer really lays in steps 2 & 3. Please Erick, begin to ask this question.
    2. Make the Balanced Budget Amendment part of any deal moving forward. Even if the Gangrene proposal lives, when it gets back to the House latch the BBA on to anything proposed by the Senate.
    3. Using the vote on Tuesday and the scheduled vote in the Senate on Saturday, identify any politician that votes against the Balanced Budget Amendment as part of the problem and run them out of office in 2012 if they are up for election. That includes one Barrack Hussein Obama

    Simple as 1, 2, 3 !!

  • powertothepeople

    We only have to look at some of the GHWB, Ford, and Reagan appointees to see the truth in your comment.

  • Marcus_Traianus

    Boehner and Cantor have gone it alone a majority of the way. I frankly don’t even believe they are always on the same page.

    Boehner’s modus operandi is to work behind the scenes and create political deals which he sells to the caucus with promises, tradeoffs and coercion. He does not run an open process in a way which gives any significant credence to opposing views.

    On Sunday, Boehner again was secretly meeting at the White House. Was he representing the diverse views of the caucus? Advising the President that CCB was our plan and we were going to push it through? Calling the President’s bluff? I doubt it. It seems coincidental we now have numerous other plans which the President magically is in agreement with.

    Boehner’s last deal was a sellout, manipulative, mendacious piece of political cover. It was his deal, nobody doubts that. He pushed it with the caucus and rammed it through.

    I doubt this will be different. The only wrinkle is Boehner’s better coordination with McConnell. He knows it will be untenable for him to take another political hit. So he’ll hide behind CCB, let McConnell take the hit and throw up his arms and tell us how he gave it the old college try.

    Why do you think the Gang of Village Liberals are now an option? Boehner knows the caucus will hold the line and a deal will hing on people he can manipulate that really don’t care about what a majority of the caucus says.

  • http://908StraightSt.wordpress.com/ mbecker908

    don’t bother to. I’m going to give you an unearned pass on the theory of your comment (which is just plain wrong) and note that “in practice” you couldn’t be more wrong.

    At 5-4 Republican appointees, the Court is at it’s lowest level of R appointees since 1972 when it flipped to 6-3 R-D and since 1976 it’s been either 7-2 or 8-1.

    Now I must point out that your source, Wikipedia, is an absolutely lousy source, but in this instance the numbers happen to be correct. So, given your theory, with a Republican dominated court there should be no decisions that might run afoul of the Republican Party platform.

    Let’s start by analyzing the decisions from 1973. Get back to us on that year.

  • 23rdamerical

    with their liberal agenda, but “voting booth zombies” keep right on electing them. Case in point: Harry Reid. This man is the sorriest excuse for a legislator in Congress today, yet the Unions seem to rally the power to re-elect him time after time. The entire country in poll after poll is displeased with Congress in overwhelming numbers, but still the Durbins, Lugars, Reids, Wrangells, Pelosis, plague our government like an old stagnant smell. We have term limits; they’re called polling booths. Politicians lie to the American people with ridiculous impunity and we just don’t seem to get fed up with it. Our political system is becoming insanity.

  • Christian

    I just feel like the “1/2 of 1/3″ formulation lowballs conservative power and influence. It is self-defeating and I’m puzzled why some in the GOP seem to like it.

  • Aaron Gardner

    Duh.

  • joecollins

    In our freshmen’s hands we place the future of the United States.

    I’m seeing the beginning of Hope and Change.

  • http://www.theprecinctproject.wordpress.com ColdWarrior

    Yesterday afternoon I heard Sen. Jeff Sessions on the Mark Levin radio program criticizing the Republicans who have been meeting in secret with the Dems (such as Sen. Tom Coburn). Earlier in the day I had heard on the radio that Cantor and Boehner decided to accept Opuppet’s invitation to go meet with him behind closed doors at the White House?

    If Boehner, McConnell, et al. had a clue, they’d tell Opuppet and the Dems that they’d happily meet with them — as long as the meetings were broadcast on C-SPAN. This is supposed to be “the most transparent administration in history.” Call them on it.

    These are supposed to be our elected PUBLIC servants. They are dealing with our money and the futures of our children and our children’s children. All of this should be done in the light of day for all to see.

    Why don’t Boehner, McConnell, et al. demand this? Because not enough of US, their bosses, have been demanding it.

    I called Boehner’s office yesterday and passed on the suggestion. 1-202-225-6205. While I was on hold for almost a half hour, I typed up the suggestion and faxed it to Boehner’s office. 1-202-225-0704.

    I’ll be sending a fax to him about this again today, as well as to my two senators and my congressman.

    Thank you.

    ColdWarrior

  • Bill S

    who appointed the justices is utterly irrelevant. David Souter is/was the textbook example of why this is so. He was a GHWB appointee and wound up being one of THE most liberal votes on the court. Sotomayor might actually be a step up from Souter.

    The best indicator of “lean” on the court lies in the rulings. And any one who spends 5 minutes looking at that will come to the conclusion that the conservative wing of the bench has an ever-so-slight advantage, but it completely turns on Anthony Kennedy.

  • jerry39

    Implies that the senate failure to act would be the cause of a default. The only way around that conclusion is willfull ignorance of the meaning of words. The media is great at that, but they can’t keep it up forever – it only becomes the houses fault if they act on this false premise. If they do that then we get the blame for the middle class tax hikes, while also getting the blame for caving on CCB.

    Don’t let the media alter reality, the truth will set u free

  • __t_i_m_o_t_h_y__

    In my calls to my congressmen, I am using the phrase, “Stand Steadfast and Loyal and hold the line”

    Allen West’s ‘Steadfast and Loyal’ really struck a chord with them. Try it with your congressmen and see if it resonates with them as well.

  • http://908StraightSt.wordpress.com/ mbecker908

    Heh.

    You not only don’t read, you don’t even pay attention to the news do you?

    “Republican” =/= “Conservative”

  • http://908StraightSt.wordpress.com/ mbecker908

    nt

  • jerry39

    Is that the SC shouldn’t be counted at all when discussing legislation since

    a. Their impact on most legislation is bill

    b. They are supposed to be nonpartisan, and

    c. As has been pointed out, if u were to assume they were partisan you’d stil be hardpressed to slot them as being for either side regardless of who appointed them

    I guess that gives us 1/3 of the relevant government.

  • rightwingmom52

    “You [Obama] can both celebrate one’s birthday and RUIN the country without compromising either.”

  • citizenjerry

    To borrow words from Ray Stevens, “If you vote to let this pass, you’re going to be out on your …”
    It’s my sincere hope the next time they’re up, these squishy RINOs from the Gang of Six are primaried and get thrown out on their ….

  • kenchely

    It can be called representative democracy because the voters voted for a divided Congress last year. Yes, we picked up the biggest majority we’d had since the 1920′s in the House, but the Senate is still Democratic. Nothing you pass in the House will become law unless it also passes the Senate.

    So right now, all you accomplish by a hard line on this is letting the Democrats demagogue as the defenders of the little guy, painting you as the defenders of corporate jets and “millionaires and billionaires.” There’s a reason they keep using those phrases; they’ve focus-group tested them, and people responded favorably to them when they used them.

    Yes, people are getting more nervous about our spending, and no, people don’t want a tax increase. But people are also intensely–much more intensely than they oppose taxes or desire spending cuts–protective of any benefit THEY expect to receive. Most of the elderly are dependent on Social Security; it doesn’t matter if the Democrat attacks are true or not, people are going to vote ferociously against anything that even begins to look like Social Security benefits might be cut or eliminated.

    Remember, people’s political views are based on what they can see and hear. Every network except Fox News is pounding the Democratic Party line, and there isn’t a majority of the people watching Fox News. That new Republican majority in the House could disappear really fast, and a Republican candidate for president could go down really hard if people think we’re attacking Social Security while protecting special tax treatment for the wealthy.

    Why are we protecting the wealthy, anyhow? They don’t protect us. They pour money into the campaigns of liberal candidates, and into the treasuries of liberal organizations. They are the bankrolls of abortion-rights and gay-rights organizations. Their corporations donate to Gay Pride rallies. Look at the representatives of the wealthy in Congress–Jim Tierney from the North Shore in Massachusetts; Jim Himes from Fairfield County, Connecticut; Tim Bishop from the Hamptons; Carolyn Maloney from the Upper East Side; Nita Lowey from Westchester County; Allyson Schwartz from the Philadelphia Main Line; Henry Waxman from Santa Monica, Beverly Hills and Hollywood; Lois Capps from Malibu. Don’t you get it? We’re throwing ourselves on our swords for our ENEMIES!

    The hell with the rich! Let them get the taxation they voted for and that they contributed to. Raise the top bracket back to what it was when Silly Willy was president; it didn’t seem to hurt business then, largely because a conservative Congress kept spending under control. Tell the Dems they can have their tax increases but the spending base line has to go back to pre-stimulus levels.

  • alreadyexists

    Boehner agreed to a sell out weeks ago and his problem has always been, how do I get to 218 votes with just RINOs and Democrats, and then still keep his job as Speaker? In the old days, he could offer up lots of pork to buy votes or strong-arm weak members with threats to withhold campaign funds. But the political landscape has changed. There is no bribe money to offer and new members fear an angry Tea Party more the RNCC. Given his predicament, Boehner has two honorable options. Either throw away his Washington-insider cape and join the fight, or step aside for the next Winston Churchill.

  • rightwingmom52

    I’ll be typing and faxing my letter today and making phone calls.

    What more can I do you ask? Jjoin your local GOP and get involved. In my case, it’s been a slow process that involved lots of grunt work before I made any actual progress, but I think it will be worth it. Are there other things I’d rather be doing? Yes, however, my thinking is that if we don’t do everything we can today to save our country, and I mean that quite literally, we’ll no longer have the freedom to do many of those other things we enjoy anyway.

  • BigRedConservative

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  • http://www.theprecinctproject.wordpress.com ColdWarrior

    Subject: Quit meeting in secret about OUR money

    This is going to Sens. Session, DeMint, McConnell, Kyl, and McCain and Reps. Schweikert, Boehner and Cantor.
    Quit meeting in secret, behind closed doors with Pres. Obama and the Dems. You are all our PUBLIC servants and you are supposed to conduct the people’s business in public. Tell the Dems you’ll meet with them to discuss the people’s money, and the futures of our children and grandchildren, ONLY if the meetings are broadcast live on C-SPAN, just like the House and Senate proceedings. Call Obama on his lies. He said all of the legislating re Obamacare would be on C-SPAN. Call him out on his lies.

    Demand this. Publicly! The good, decent Americans would all be with you on this! They want to see you people FIGHT for our liberties.

    Do you have ANY strategies???

    Questions? Call me: (xxx) xxx-xxxx.
    Thank you.
    [name]
    Republican Party Precinct Committeeman, LD 17, Tempe, AZ
    [e-mail address]

    Will it do any good? Not unless they get thousands and thousands and thousands of faxes like this. Today.

    Thank you for all your are doing in your local GOP.

    ColdWarrior

  • __t_i_m_o_t_h_y__

    @alreadyexists well said.

    West could be our Churchill.

    A steadfast and loyal African American in toe-to-tow with the Marxist in chief would be a battle to relish.

  • red_oakster

    “We have been dealing with this myth on a popular level since Woodrow Wilson’s open covenants openly arrived at” nonsense. What you’re really saying is that you don’t trust Bohner and Cantor to make a good deal, which is certainly a fair point. I respectfully disagree with that assessment, at least for Cantor. Contra Erick, I think Cantor left the Biden talks because he sees the process for the trap it is and I think Cantor is extremely aware of his caucus’ views. Boehner likes to make deals, but I think Cantor and the caucus are holding him in line.

  • runner12

    People long for our government officials to show the same courage and fortitude that our forefathers did. These men risked all for what they believed was right and good. It is time for our Representatives to muster some of that same kind of courage.

    The time is now, this is their moment to shine and to show America that there are still some Representatives who stand for principle in Washington. They need to ignore their leadership and stand FIRM.

  • red_oakster

    And I agree that Boehner and Cantor sometimes go in opposite directions-meaning that Cantor is more attentive to conservatives in the caucus. Incidentally, Cantor was quick to pocket the Gang’s endorsement of lower tax rates without endorsing the sketchy proposal.

    The Boehner deal on 2011 was a bad deal and I don’t think he has much sway with his caucus now as a result; they know he can be rolled. That’s why Cantor was chosen to lead the Biden negotiations in the first place. But I submit again that both, but especially Cantor, are determined to let as little daylight as possible get between them and their caucus.

  • red_oakster

    Look I get talk radio and the internet are media where the good guys can fight back, but the other side holds some cards too, including dominance in the MSM.

  • cwfoster

    is best stated in Ayn Rands quote

    “In any compromise between food and poison, it is only death that can win. In any compromise between good and evil, it is only evil that can profit.”
    ? Ayn Rand

    at what point have we compromised to the point that recovery is impossible? What if upon winning, we discover we’ve won a burned out desolate wasteland where nothing will grow? Suppose the economy has moved overseas enough already that there’s not enough to ‘get America working again’? Keeping those thoughts in mind, how much MORE ground are you willing to give up? WHEN are you going too dig in and fight? Benjamin Franklin was asked what kind of Government they had decided upon, and his answer was “A Republic, if you can keep it!”

    This begs the question whether or not we freaking DESERVE it!If we are not willing to fight a POLITICAL fight to preserve the country that men have fought, bled and DIED to establish and preserve, then we don’t. Simple as that!

  • powertothepeople

    and let me explain why:

    A) SC does have massive influence on legislation as that is their job. We could get into the whole discussion about whether or not they have taken on too much of a role, but for now we will simply leave it at the SC rules on the constitutionality of things including bills passed by Congress. Should a right to life bill pass the congress and get signed into law by a president, the SC would eventually rules on the legality of the bill. They are quite powerful and have a ton to do with legislation.

    B) Yes, you are correct they are supposed to be non partisan, but they have not been for quite some time if ever. Most presidents have appointed members based on their own sway, other than some of our own republican presidents which is absurd, and while no one really knows how the member will end up voting, they do attempt to sway the court to the side they are on.

    C) Are you kidding? The court leans left and has so for quite some time. We really only have 4 strong members who vote as the law was intended (conservative). There are 5 members who vote liberal. In fact 4 of those 5 are quite liberal and everyone knows which slot they are in and how they will vote. The other one surprises us sometimes, but not that much. It is a very partisan court and it leans way left. That is why appointments are so important and it is why the two appointments GWB did may end up being one of the greatest things he did as president. With one potential appointment coming up in the next few years, it is a huge reason to make sure we have the right people in the congress and more importantly, the right person in as president. It would be the first time the court leaned right in 35 years.

    That is why we factually state we have 1/2 of 1/3 of the government.

  • eddiethegeek

    That the continued Democratic agenda of ever-increasing government can’t pass while the GOP holds the House, if only they’d use the power WE GAVE THEM! There is no need for Boehnercantor to fold every time they sit down to play cards!

    We got a whopping $300 million of spending cuts in the CR fiasco, which represents less than TWO FREAKIN HOURS of federal deficit spending! And this is starting to look like CR – The Sequel.

    If the 87 freshmen hold the line, they just might force crying John Boehner to grow a pair.

  • citizenjerry

    House Majority Leader Alan West. I like the sound of that.

  • eddiethegeek

    Bachmann voted against the bill because it raises the debt limit immediately but does not go far enough or quickly enough to cut spending.

    She is against raising the debt limit. So am I. Force the administration to figure out what’s to be paid out of the $200 billion of tax receipts.

  • 23rdamerical

    the sound of victory!

  • 23rdamerical

    sure makes the slogan, “Lead, Follow, or Get Out of the Way”seem relevant for the times!

  • westcoastpatriette

    Had to look up pusillanimous and it made me laugh!

  • red_oakster

    http://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/sustaining-the-unsustainable/2011/07/21/gIQAI6mtRI_story.html?hpid=z1

  • gpclaw

    If I willingly sign two pledges that are in conflict with one another, that’s on me not the pledge.

    Let’s not make the situation more complicated than it really is. If someone is opposed to raising the debt limit, don’t sign the pledge that offers to raise the debt limit in exchange for a BBA.

  • gpclaw

    But if that was the case, then she should have never signed the pledge supporting an increase to the debt limit, in exchange for a BBA.

  • gpclaw

    I feel this is precisely the reason she signed the CCB pledge.

    I wouldn’t say that DeMint was wrong for stating that he would only support those who signed on to CCB. DeMint has been the point man on CCB, and has a lot of sweat and energy into getting a balanced budget amendment ratified into the Constitution. If he is going to put his stamp on a nominee’s candidacy, along with his resources, he wants to be sure that the nominee embraces the issues that are important to DeMint.

  • Flagstaff

    with some decent food for thought, but he missed the big problem as has everyone else. That is, we had the spectacle of the Senate Republican leader jumping off on his own without conferring with his counterpart in the House or getting any input from the House members who led the “shellacking” of the Dems last November. “StaPuft” McConnell needs to learn how to play nice with his friends instead of sucking up to his enemies.

  • uselogic

    Nice one. As he proved last week.

  • Aaron Gardner

    The Senate Conservative Fund is for those running for the Senate.

  • Scope

    You are absolutely correct. I should have remembered that as I have contributed to DeMint’s PAC in the past. I hitched my giddy up to the wrong argument. Thanks for the correction.

  • Aaron Gardner

    Kinda shows that gpclaw will latch on to any argument that is against DeMint.

  • KC

    “The reality is the significant spending cuts can?t pass while Democrats are in power.”

    Maybe so, but…….

    ….as long a Republicans hold one half of Congress, they can stop the Democrats from spending MORE money we don’t have.

    They can take away Obama’s credit card.

    They can stop tax increases from being imposed.

    The only question is…..WILL they?

  • Spiral

    They (the House GOP) should and (I think) will increase the debt limit because otherwise the United States has welched on its legal-financial obligations.

    The House GOP will not support tax increases as part of a deal on increasing the debt limit.

    However, if too many Republican House members refuse to support raising the debt limit, a debt limit increase bill might end up including a tax increase in order to gain Democrat House votes. Unlikely? Yes. Possible? Yes.

    House Republicans should be very flexible on raising the debt limit. However, they should remain stubbornly opposed to any tax increases. Tax reform? The devil is in the details.

  • gpclaw

    Not sure how you drew that conclusion.

  • http://www.theprecinctproject.wordpress.com ColdWarrior

    should be be conducted by the people’s elected representatives in public, not behind closed doors by “deal makers” and “gangs” and then having the results foisted on the rest of us at the last minute as the only solution to avert a crisis.

    http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0711/59872.html

    This Politico article also has a good, short video interview of Sen. Mike Lee.

    ?It?s terrible, and it?s got to stop,? Sen. Mike Lee, a freshman tea party favorite from Utah, told POLITICO. ?To negotiate a deal under cover of darkness, behind closed doors and then come in at the final hour, just as what happened a few months ago with the continuing resolution [to avert a government shutdown], and say, ?Here?s the deal. It?s prebaked. You take it, or you leave it.??

    Georgia Rep. Austin Scott, president of the GOP?s rambunctious freshman class, said he has more input here than he did in the state Legislature, where he served on high-profile committees but found that the governor ran the show.

    ?It?s better than I?ve seen,? he said. But he also acknowledged that ?If the question is, ?Would I prefer the public know what the proposals are?? ? I think, yeah. ? I understand there?s a lot of fear and anxiety out there in America.?

    Thank you.

    ColdWarrior