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Hyperbloviating Think Progress Gets Its Collective Panties In A Wad Over Rick Perry

By: Erick Erickson (Diary)  |  August 15th, 2011 at 11:10 PM  | 

RESIZE: AAA

Let me remind you that union goons sympathetic to Barack Obama have taken to showing up on the doorsteps of bank executives’ houses in America to threaten and intimidate them.

Let me also remind you that Barack Obama told Wall Street Executives that he was all that stood in the way of pitchforks coming for them.

And Barack Obama also called on his supporters to bring guns to knife fights, not to mention to punish their enemies.

Then there were the August 2009 town halls where virtually every documented act of violence was at the hands of union goons while Think Progress pretended it was the racist tea partiers causing the violence.

There are countless other examples and through it all, Think Progress cheered it all on.

In Iowa, Rick Perry said, “I dunno what y’all would do to him in Iowa but we would treat him pretty ugly down in Texas.” Think Progress has gotten its collective panties in such a tight wad over this the whole staff may have to go commando.

Think Progress’s (I’m not sure what to call him . . . blogger, I guess, because he sure as heck doesn’t even clear welterweight on the scale of intellectuals in Washington) Matt Yglesias decries Perry for wanting to lynch Ben Bernanke — something Perry did not say. That Yglesias would suggest it says more about how he views Texas than it does Rick Perry.

The hysteria is ridiculous. It is also a reminder of how the outrage pimps are going to play 2012.

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  • carolina

    while he talked with folks at the Iowa State Fair…….. just waiting for a ‘juicy’ sound bite. I’m sure the voter had much stronger language about the Federal Reserve.
    A lot of people are wise to the biased lamestream media, but not all of them. No doubt there is much worse to come. ugh

  • carolina

    while he talked with folks at the Iowa State Fair…….. just waiting for a ‘juicy’ sound bite. I’m sure the voter had much stronger language about the Federal Reserve.
    A lot of people are wise to the biased lamestream media, but not all of them. No doubt there is much worse to come. ugh

  • Next93

    We’re dealing with people who are convinced that they have intellects far beyond us mere mortals. They’re so sure of this that they’re actively working towards a world in which they control every aspect of the lives of every person in the world.

    When you’re that arogant, it’s not much of a stretch to convince yourself that you know what someone actually meant, and can completely ignore what they actually said.

  • msctex

    . . .to come to terms with the idea of a fiscally conservative Texas Republican who is more than willing to hit back. They have nothing to lose, and have forgotten what it is like to have an opponent — for that matter, there are quite possibly some on Obama’s staff who have never actually faced opposition in a campaign. We are going to see them descend to depths heretofore uncharted, you watch.

  • itsjoanne

    I didn’t think the meltdown would happen quite this fast. :)

  • izoneguy

    Will be looking for a shrink….
    My advice – it is much cheaper and more fun to be a conservative.

  • Adjoran

    And I liked him anyway, BUT it’s a long campaign which has only just begun. I will reserve judgment and give the candidates the chance to develop their campaigns through New Hampshire, at least. There is no reason I need to commit before then anyway.

  • sbm1

    didn’t he have a recent article where he talked about the president minting trillion dollar coins and depositing it in the treasury?

    He is so clueless, I would like to know how he became relevant?

  • anjinconsulting

    Do they adopt a more “sensitive” attitude and counsel Perry to be mindful of his words, or do they laugh it off and impugn the minion.

  • bigbossogg

    I think they’ll abandon this juvenile “outrage” for wholesale race card playing.
    Time and again it has proven to be the one insurmountable accusatory ploy
    by the other side.

    As long as they can play on white ‘guilt’ they’ll do so, even though the numbers of Americans who would allow themselves to be cornered in that fashion are diminishing.

    I don’t know why people don’t respond to that accusation with a hearty laugh in ridicule of the idea. That’s one of the alinsky tools, ridicule, and the sooner we use it against the left, the sooner we defuse their last ace.

  • bk

    His attitude is along the lines of “They’ll hate me anyway so who cares.”

  • boria

    People criticizing Perry for his statement are the same ones who cannot find anything to say about Obummer calling Republicans “the enemy” and the VP calling Tea PArty folks Terrorists… Pleeeeeeeeeeease….

  • saccrewdog

    The person who came up with that idea is:

    Jack M. Balkin is Knight Professor of Constitutional Law at Yale Law School. His latest book is “Constitutional Redemption: Political Faith in an Unjust World” (Harvard University Press 2011)

    Here’s the link to the article:

    http://www.cnn.com/2011/OPINION/07/28/balkin.obama.options/index.html?hpt=hp_c1

    It took me all of 10 seconds to google this and copy the info above.

    It would seem you cannot be bothered to do even minimal research, before spouting your version of what you think you may have heard somewhere.

    This same characteristic is why those without a coherent argument often give, “Everybody KNOWS!” as a talking point, thinking the statement is a datum.

    Hint: It’s not.

  • mickeydpekinil

    I?m sure Perry is as great as you think he is and he made the grand-ist of entrances into the race
    BUT, we need to remember the GOP golden boy in Delaware (Mike Castle) and how all the GOP?s men and all the GOP?s money could not save him against a girl (O?Donnell) that had nothing but an idea.

  • paco12348

    I’m glad Perry entered the race and I’m happy to see the lift’s panties in a wad. The Left fears anyone taking them to task and actually telling the truth. Perry calls it the way he sees it and he stands head and shoulders above Obama and his excuses.
    I need to know Perry’s stand on some issues like Amnesty and Bilderberg before he gets my vote, but right now he sure passes the smell test.

  • 4dees

    You can rest assured that the Dems will resort to “hosting” one of the ugliest and nastiest campaigns against the Repubs in 2012. They’ve already begun. When the best plan the Dems have to offer the American people is name calling, you know that will be the only substance of their campaign. Obama announced yesterday that he would announce his plan in December when it’s ready. Where’s this plan been for almost three years now? I suspect it won’t materialize in December either.

    What should make the American public really angry is this non-campaign tour Obama is on now is that instead of renting the two buses they’re using, he went out and purchased two brand new ones. A further waste and flaunting of how he spends our $$$. The only way he could do this and charge it off to the taxpayers is to say this isn’t a “campaign tour”. Does he really think we’re that stupid??

  • Francis Cianfrocca

    First, recognize that on the Right, it’s fashionable to beat up on the Fed. The people who care about this flap don’t have a vote in the primaries.

    So the first thing Perry has to do is get nominated. Next, all he has to do is fly to Washington and have a photo-op with Bernanke. (That would look hysterical, by the way.)

    Then they have a sit-down, and Perry says:

    “Professor, I’m sure you’re missing the nice weather (not) and the congenial company back in Princeton. Now explain to me again why, as President, I should nominate you to another term as Fed chairman.”

  • politicallydisgusted

    That’s unfortunately easy to answer. He was elected by mindless drones. Drones who actually thought they saw something good out of this HACK!

  • politicallydisgusted

    I’ve never seen a more condescending HACK in 60 years!

  • Death_of_the_Donkey

    The lack of Fed tightening and easy money policies for almost the entire last decade (but for that brief period right before the recession) are the prime driver of the oil boom in Texas. What Perry should be more worried about (as Governor of Texas) is Bernanke tightening suddenly and absolutely destroying the oil industry when prices would subsequently collapse.

  • http://www.hakubi.us/ Neil Stevens

    Back up your claims with documented fact.

    If you can’t then admit it’s your opinion, and you’re just reaching for anything to whack Perry, the man who can beat your man Obama.

    And don’t even deny that. We all know you’re part of the Obama fan club.

  • streiff

    as a moderator I appreciate your diligence but I think your presentation is a bit over the top.

    Let’s not do that again.

  • http://www.hakubi.us/ Neil Stevens

    You’re being incredibly deceptive with your claim that it’s an “oil boom” in Texas.

    Did Axelrod give you that talking point?

  • vtdelacy

    Ever since Perry announced his candidacy, the vultures and snakes have been popping out of the woodwork desperately attempting to derail the success of our best man for the Presidency. While they are hurling baseless personal attacks, Perry should be able to sail on to victory on his stellar record as three time governor of the state that has produced th most jobs for America throughout the past several years. It is remarkable that a state which comprises just 10% of the national population goes on to create over 40% of the jobs. With a record like that, Rick Perry has solid ground upon which to stand as he goes on to defeat Obama. Perry for President in 2012!

  • streiff

    You need to provide some links to econ journals or the like to back up this tendentious crap.

    This isn’t a request, I fully intend to ban you if you won’t comply.

  • Doc Holliday

    too cool, i guess I forgot that. I have been around so long, I should run the place, but still only hold the rank of “reader” lol.

    Donkey lover is full of donkey excrement. Texas gave up on relying on oil in the early 1980s. Texas now has all types of industries, from technology to retail to entertainment. Texas could only be a beacon to others by giving tax breaks and a safe business environment, but they also have made a point of building a wide ranging industry base.

  • 6eorge Jetson

    for Texas’s economic success over the weekend. I forget which show.

    So let’s just concede that point. The reason Texas was home to 40% of the new net jobs created was because Obama directed most of the stimulus jobs to Texas.

    Yep

  • http://www.hakubi.us/ Neil Stevens

    .

  • travis690

    I think that “treasonous” may have been the wrong word, but “counterfeiting” is still a crime. Bernanke needs to be charged with counterfeiting, tried, and hopefully convicted. Then maybe he can share a prison cell with Bernie Madoff.

  • izoneguy

    Saying that this road construction was paid for by the “American Recovery and Reinvestment Act”….

    Now I have seen them in Louisiana, Arkansas & Mississippi….

    Texas would be that much further ahead if it were not for all the EPA and drilling restrictions.

    Most of the new jobs around DFW are high tech, higher paying jobs.

  • BA Cyclone

    Lefty bloggers kept up the machine gun questions about “Muslims in government” at a conservative conference here in March. He finally relented with an answer, and he has been off-message ever since.

    Herman owns a healthy share of the blame for getting off message, but the media is more than happy to prod him along the downward spiral.

    Rick Perry, however certainly has the political experience to avoid such potholes, or better manage his way out of them. I think there is a lot about “a politician” the public dislikes, but not everything about that skill set is negative.

  • http://www.hakubi.us/ Neil Stevens

    It’s not counterfeiting in any way, though I wouldn’t put it past Obama to play El Presidente and start imprisoning inconvenient scapegoats for his failures.

  • Doc Holliday

    like the guy once said. I have been married for as long as I can remember, which is about 2 years.

  • jimmyg

    http://apps.dot.state.tx.us/apps/project_tracker/stimprojects.htm

    You may not see signs but Texas took stimulus money for roads.

  • streiff

    that’s when I received my hunting license

  • anjinconsulting

    I for one would relish the idea of a stand up republican who can call a spade a spade and throw the BS flag.

  • izoneguy

    It almost made me puke – the amount of money spent.

  • sbm1

    I just don’t like linking to the thinkprogresss website it is on. Ygelsias does not just cite the Balkin argument, he also expands on it as being a necessary move by the president. I didn’t want to actually bring the article per se up, just use the premise as an example of the high school debate club mind that Yglesias seems to have….

  • msjallen

    I am looking forward to seeing more of Rick Perry and his Texas attitude. He is saying what we Texans like to hear. Don’t get your “panties in a wad” but he reminds of President Reagan. We need someone who will tell it like it is and bring American back from the brinks of failure. We need our economy turned around and I believe Perry knows how to do that. Yes, I’ve heard all the negatives about him but I haven’t been convinced yet. I would like to see a Perry/Bachman ticket.

  • cwfoster

    the enterprising ones make up soundbites!

  • carolynr

    The Fed…is bad…bad…bad. The MSM is even worse. this is a long post and it is also linked. Read this and weep…and remember…we hardly heard a peep about this. gingrich mentioned it in the last debate…but nobody really knew what he was saying…So … here it is:

    Subject: FW: Audit of the Federal Reserve Reveals $16 Trillion in Secret Bail Outs

    We have totally lost control of the government. This is so outrageous.

    Audit of the Federal Reserve Reveals $16 Trillion in Secret Bail Outs
    July 21st, 2011

    The first ever GAO(Government Accountability Office) audit of the Federal Reserve was carried out in the past few months due to the Ron Paul, Alan Grayson Amendment to the Dodd-Frank bill, which passed last year. Jim DeMint, a Republican Senator, and Bernie Sanders, an independent Senator, led the charge for a Federal Reserve audit in the Senate, but watered down the original language of the house bill (HR1207), so that a complete audit would not be carried out. Ben Bernanke (pictured to the left), Alan Greenspan, and various other bankers vehemently opposed the audit and lied to Congress about the effects an audit would have on markets. Nevertheless, the results of the first audit in the Federal Reserve?s nearly 100 year history was posted on Senator Sanders webpage earlier this morning.

    What was revealed in the audit was startling: $16,000,000,000,000.00 had been secretly given out to US banks and corporations and foreign banks everywhere from France to Scotland. From the period between December 2007 and June 2010, the Federal Reserve had secretly bailed out many of the world?s banks, corporations, and governments. The Federal Reserve likes to refer to these secret bailouts as an all-inclusive loan program, but virtually none of the money has been returned and it was loaned out at 0% interest. Why the Federal Reserve had never been public about this or even informed the United States Congress about the $16 trillion dollar bailout is obvious? the American public would have been outraged to find out that the Federal Reserve bailed out foreign banks while Americans were struggling to find jobs.

    To place $16 trillion into perspective, remember that GDP of the United States is only $14.12 trillion. The entire national debt of the United States government spanning its 200+ year history is $14.5 trillion. The budget that is being debated so heavily in Congress and the Senate is only $3.5 trillion. Take all of the outrage and debate over the $1.5 trillion deficit into consideration, and swallow this Red pill: There was no debate about whether $16,000,000,000,000 would be given to failing banks and failing corporations around the world.

    In late 2008, the TARP Bailout bill was passed and loans of $800 billion were given to failing banks and companies. That was a blatant lie considering the fact that Goldman Sachs alone received 814 billion dollars. As is turns out, the Federal Reserve donated $2.5 trillion to Citigroup, while Morgan Stanley received $2.04 trillion. The Royal Bank of Scotland and Deutsche Bank, a German bank, split about a trillion and numerous other banks received hefty chunks of the $16 trillion.

    This is a clear case of socialism for the rich and rugged, you?re-on-your-own individualism for everyone else.? Bernie Sanders(I-VT)

    When you have conservative Republican stalwarts like Jim DeMint(R-SC) and Ron Paul(R-TX) as well as self-identified Democratic socialists like Bernie Sanders all fighting against the Federal Reserve, you know that it is no longer an issue of Right versus Left. When you have every single member of the Republican Party in Congress and progressive Congressmen like Dennis Kucinich sponsoring a bill to audit the Federal Reserve, you realize that the Federal Reserve is an entity onto itself, which has no oversight and no accountability.

    Americans should be swelled with anger and outrage at the abysmal state of affairs when an unelected group of bankers can create money out of thin air and give it out to megabanks and super-corporations like Halloween candy. If the Federal Reserve and the bankers who control it believe that they can continue to devalue the savings of Americans and continue to destroy the US economy, they will have to face the realization that their trillion dollar printing presses can be stopped with five dollars-worth of bullets.

    The list of institutions that received the most money from the Federal Reserve can be found on page 131 of the GAO Audit and are as follows..

    Citigroup: $2.5 trillion ($2,500,000,000,000)
    Morgan Stanley: $2.04 trillion ($2,040,000,000,000)
    Merrill Lynch: $1.949 trillion ($1,949,000,000,000)
    Bank of America: $1.344 trillion ($1,344,000,000,000)
    Barclays PLC (United Kingdom): $868 billion ($868,000,000,000)
    Bear Sterns: $853 billion ($853,000,000,000)
    Goldman Sachs: $814 billion ($814,000,000,000)
    Royal Bank of Scotland (UK): $541 billion ($541,000,000,000)
    JP Morgan Chase: $391 billion ($391,000,000,000)
    Deutsche Bank (Germany): $354 billion ($354,000,000,000)
    UBS (Switzerland): $287 billion ($287,000,000,000)
    Credit Suisse (Switzerland): $262 billion ($262,000,000,000)
    Lehman Brothers: $183 billion ($183,000,000,000)
    Bank of Scotland (United Kingdom): $181 billion ($181,000,000,000)
    BNP Paribas (France): $175 billion ($175,000,000,000)
    and many more including banks in Belgium of all places

    View the 266-page GAO audit of the Federal Reserve(July 21st, 2011): http://www.scribd.com/doc/60553686/GAO-Fed-Investigation

    Source: http://www.gao.gov/products/GAO-11-696
    FULL PDF on GAO server: http://www.gao.gov/new.items/d11696.pdf
    Senator Sanders Article: http://sanders.senate.gov/newsroom/news/?id=9e2a4ea8-6e73-4be2-a753-62060dcbb3c3

  • carolynr

    Last night on Hannity…it was suggested that Perry had to concentrate on either the religious right or the business sector but could not win both. I disagree. While Bachmann has stuck to her principles…she does not have the “extensive” executive experience to be President at this very dangerous time in our world. I commend Bachmann…but you don’t hide in a bus while your fellow running mates meet your Iowans.

    As you know from my blogs…Romney is nothing more than another Obama with an “R” behind his name. However, if people to not believe that Perry can take on Romney concerning JOBS and his state’s success….ASK ROMNEY THIS: How many corporations and people are moving to MA and how many to Texas…AND WHY. That should do it.

  • Death_of_the_Donkey

    that easy money has lead to skyrocketing oil prices, which has then made the Texas oil industry boom? Or that monetary tightening would likely cause those same prices to fall (thus causing the Texas oil industry to suffer, just like what happened in the late 80′s when oil prices fell dramatically).

    For you facts. Since the recession ended, Texas has created 50,000 natural resources jobs (this would include oil and mining) (that’s out of a total of 350,000 non government jobs created since the recession ended). Those jobs as most of us here recognize pay very well (which is one reason why we support more drilling). High paying jobs have a large multiplier effect as those wages get dispersed through the economy. Thus, a collapse in oil prices (which could be caused by either fed tightening or another recession) would have a dramatic effect on both the oil industry and the Texas economy. (the numbers come right from the establishment survey and the rest is basic 100 level economics).

  • Death_of_the_Donkey

    I am not trying to bash Perry here (so far he would likely be my choice in a primary), just what he said about the Federal Reserve.

  • bryankdonnelly

    I just LOVE Neal Boortz definition of the word “racist;” A conservative who is WINNING an arguement with a liberal.”

    Have you noticed that, even BEFORE Rick Perry announced his candidacy, the leftist lamestream media were already not only attacking HIM, but Texas? Yep, seems that all kids in the lone star state except children of oil “profiteers” all suffer from rickets. The entire population has pellagra and at least 80% are congenital idiots from a long tradition of marrying their sisters. Did I forget to mention that all Texas Christians handle rattlesnakes in their devotions, that is, when they’re not persecuting women? Not only THAT but there IS no education there, thus all but a few leftists are illiterate.

    Strange though, Texas has created 40% of all new jobs since Obama took office. Go figure!

  • Doc Holliday

    btw, the fed is not cutting lending rates to help Texas, they are doing it to try to stop another recession. Oil prices are up because of world wide demand AND because Europe and the US are broke. Oil goes up because it has a real value, most Western currencies do not, check out gold. I guess according to your analogy, Klondike gold miners should be naming their kids Ben.

  • JSobieski

    Texas would still have an impressive employment delta over most states. Texas is not somehow a special beneficiary of easy money. Car manufacturers in the midwest benefit, stock traders in NYC benefit, IT companies in Silicon valley benefit, etc.

    The Fed could reverse course, and Texas would still look good compared to most states. Your analysis is not totally without merit, but it serves to obfuscate the bigger picture–Texas has better economic policies than the vast majority of states.

    People have been voting with their feet and moving to Texas—a trend that precedes Bernacke.

  • edintexas

    What “guilt”. I never owned slaves, nor did any of my family. The family (both maternal and fraternal) didn’t get to this country until well after the War Between the States. I feel no “guilt” whatsoever.

  • gekster

    from bloomburg:
    WTI CRUDE FUTURE (USD/bbl.) 87.350

    Crude Oil Futures Decline as Investors Speculate Global Economy Is Slowing

    “Oil dropped from the highest in almost two weeks in New York after Germany?s economy all but stagnated in the second quarter, heightening concern that fuel consumption will diminish. ”

    this is just for info.

  • edintexas

    YOu know, does Dear Leader love this country? You’ll have to ask him. The nerve of the man – expecting a reporter to ask Dear Leader if he loves the US when he can ask Rick Perry what he might know about Dear Leader’s personal thoughts and feelings.

  • Doc Holliday

    oil needs demand, and if our economies founder, demand will weaken.

  • msctex

    . . .The Democratic Party could be insane enough to allow things to progress to the point Obama would be forced to debate Perry. I loathe Obama, and it would still be painful to watch, just as an American. Obama is an absolutely awful extemporaneous speaker, and has only abject failure from which to draw. They may well fire all of their guns in the Republican Primary process to avoid that possibility, then hope for a miracle with some variation of a Hail Mary pass to another nominee, after Obama steps aside for health reasons. Or, perhaps for simply realizing the nation is too stupid to recognize his brilliance. It would be a fitting end to the only purely farcical Presidency in American history.

  • Death_of_the_Donkey

    That even ex-natural resource jobs Texas wouldn’t be a national leader in employment (as a matter of fact, I pointed out above that even ex-nat resources Texas has created 300,000 non-government jobs since the recession ended), only that Texas has benefited a lot from those easy money policies through the prices in natural resources (specifically oil) and that (which I didn’t mention above) due to other stupid national policies, it gains its outsized benefit since there are not many other places where an oil company can drill to get at more oil. Also, due to the high paying nature of those oil jobs, they have a much larger multiplier effect and thus spin off far more jobs than most other industries (probably 3rd behind tech and finance).

  • gekster

    check out this web site

    http://teeic.anl.gov/er/oilgas/restech/dist/index.cfm

    You should find things out before you comment, but thats not your habit.

  • RDCook

    Whistling past the graveyard
    I believe the reaction of the left to the minor wins forced on congress through the influence of TEA party activists Is pure unadulterated fear. This fear is being multiplied by the presence of Conservative candidates in the Republican primary. Their bluster, name calling and dire warnings of disaster are evoked by fear of ghosts from the past reincarnated in the Tea party movement. The fear is real, it is part of the liberal cell structure; it has been embedded in their brains for decades.
    It is the fear that the American people will realize that our Founding Fathers really had it right. The modern liberal rhetoric is completely destroyed when stacked against the ideals of those grave yard ghosts in the form of our Founding Father?s spirits. The Liberal fear is that we have finally awakened and have had enough. They are beginning to realize their Waterloo will be the 2012 elections and they are whistling past the graveyard.

  • Death_of_the_Donkey

    there are very few places that a company can drill for more oil right now. Notice I prefaced the part you quoted with “DUE TO OTHER STUPID NATIONAL POLICIES”.

  • irishgirl

    You just know they’ve been vetting him for months now since it was highly speculated he would jump in the race. And the only stuff they can come up with so far is pretty pathetic and almost laughable.

  • gekster

    go ahead and be right.

  • Death_of_the_Donkey

    and you know it. My entire point was that Texas is one of the few places where one can legally drill for oil right now thanks to stupid government policies and you tried to spin that into me saying that we don’t have other oil supplies. Give it up and go take a couple of entry level econ classes.

  • gekster

    ntntntntnt

  • gekster

    Published February 10, 2011

    http://www.foxnews.com/us/2011/02/10/new-drilling-method-opens-vast-oil-fields/

    excerpt:
    Now newer fields are showing promise, including the Niobrara, which stretches under Wyoming, Colorado, Nebraska and Kansas; the Leonard, in New Mexico and Texas; and the Monterey, in California.

  • williamjameson

    to scare people and smear, they are scumbags. Such people are too pathetic to deserve the privilege of voting and they are foolish enough to thinking voting is a right. More reason to only see Red on election day. Screw blue, no one is worthy.

  • ihateliberals

    he isn’t trust worthy to stick to conservative values. I was a pretty strong supporter of his until I found out he supported the Texas Dream Act. I can’t condone this type of hypocrisy. You can’t preach conservatism on one hand and be signing the Dream Act with the other. This is like GWH Bush on the one hand saying he won’t raise taxes and signing the tax bill with the other hand. This makes these guys RINO’s. They can’t be trusted to stay conservative when the going gets tough. Believe me even if a conservative wins the White House there will be some tough decisions ahead and we can’t take a chance on another Boehner or McConnell type that will cave and give into the compromising spirit of the Democrats. Remember the only time a Democrat wants to compromise is when they are losing. We don’t want some one like Boehner being put under the pressure of compromise by the Democrats and caving. RINO’s are no longer welcome and aren’t as trust worthy as liberals. At least with liberals you know that they are but a RINO can go either way at anytime.

  • gekster

    Do you know what the law entails.

  • californiagold

    In a recent interview regarding US/Mexico border issues, Perry said he didn’t support building a wall/fence at the border because, in his view, it wouldn’t work. I find that reasoning a bit odd because parts of the border already have a wall. And in those areas that have it, illegal immigration has been reduced significantly. The problem is that smugglers will follow the path of least resistance, which means they will go wherever there isn’t a wall.

    The above issue, along with the dream act and Nafta superhighway proposal, raise flags regarding Perry’s stance on border issues and immigration. The debates will offer Perry a chance to clarify what he really believes.

  • gekster

    and this.

  • snowshooze

    And my opinion is that if we simply painted a yellow line all the way across the border….
    And shot everyone who tried to cross it..
    In less than a WEEK… they would figure it out.
    Problem solved.

  • californiagold

    The first video you presented shows two caucasian women climbing up the US side of the fence while cameras were filming. What the video doesn’t show is the border agents that might be watching out of camera view. Nor does the video show any Mexicans trying to climb over the fence to enter the US.

    The second video is misleading because that fence is one of the older fences that would be replaced if the decision was made to build along the entire border.Nor does the second video show if border agents are watching off camera.

    The reality is, the most recently built fences along the US/Mexican border do work in spite of the objections of the far left or the US chamber of commerce.

  • californiagold

    The first video you presented shows two caucasian women climbing up the US side of the fence while cameras were filming. What the video doesn’t show is the border agents that might be watching out of camera view. Nor does the video show any Mexicans trying to climb over the fence to enter the US.

    The second video is misleading because that fence is one of the older fences that would be replaced if the decision was made to build along the entire border.Nor does the second video show if border agents are watching off camera.

    The reality is, the most recently built fences along the US/Mexican border do work in spite of the objections of the far left or the US chamber of commerce.

  • californiagold

    There’s really only two options. Either build a wall, or allow open borders with amnesty. All the other stuff is just political theater.

  • gekster

    Enforce the laws we have on the books, as Gov Perry has stated.
    And I agree. we have laws that wiuld deal with illegal immigration if we would just enforce them.

  • snowshooze

    And I promote a fence and a military presence.
    But serious as a heart attack.. in one week… if we started picking them off.. it would end. One week.