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  • http://www.freedomslighthouse.net nelsa

    He’s stomping him!

    That didn’t take long…

  • izoneguy

    N/T

  • http://www.freedomslighthouse.net nelsa

    Almost considered Romney’s home turf. If it’s close, Romney should start to have some conern.

  • jaykali

    There’s alot of time for him to rise or fall of course. He tends to throw a lot more punches than the others (see yesterday’s comments) so the left-wing guys will try to parse everything he says and make him a racist probably.

    Mitt will be the weird Mormon, Bachmann the crazy lady, and Perry will be the Bush-clone who is wanting the south to rise again. Very predictable.

    Now the thing is it’s possible none of their attacks will stick, we’ll see. If Bachmann holds Iowa and Rick Perry wins SC, assuming Romney wins NH then you will have quite a race. Obviously if Rick gets SC & Iowa, Bachmann will be out very quickly and it would be a 2 person race.

  • gawken

    Like many here, I’ve said for months that Mitt won’t be the nominee..

    Over the next few months, as more and more realize that, it will be Perry and trhe rest of the pack. If Bachmann fails to show any growth in support, then Palin has to decide if she endorses him, or runs against him…

    If she were to announce TODAY, right now, I suspect that the next poll, n a few days, would be:

    Palin 35%, Perry 25%, Mitt 15%, and the others all in single digits..

  • justfedup

    even plastic is reflective in the sunlight. Take a real goood look at Perry before you jump on his bandwagon.

  • izoneguy


    Rasmussen – GOP Primary: Perry 29%, Romney 18%, Bachmann 13%

    The latest Rasmussen Reports national telephone survey of Likely Republican Primary voters, taken Monday night, finds Perry with 29% support. Romney, the former Massachusetts governor who ran unsuccessfully for the GOP presidential nomination in 2008, earns 18% of the vote, while Bachmann, the Minnesota congresswoman who won the high-profile Ames Straw Poll in Iowa on Saturday, picks up 13%.

    Texas Congressman Ron Paul, who was a close second to Bachmann on Saturday, has the support of nine percent (9%) of Likely Primary Voters, followed by Georgia businessman Herman Cain at six percent (6%) and former House Speaker Newt Gingrich with five percent (5%). Rick Santorum, former U.S. senator from Pennsylvania, and ex-Utah Governor Jon Huntsman each get one percent (1%) support, while Michigan Congressman Thaddeus McCotter comes in statistically at zero.

    Sixteen percent (16%) of primary voters remain undecided.

  • jaykali

    Ed Schultz already did this so we can change the above list to past tense.

  • izoneguy
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  • msctex

    It’s good you are trying, IG, but some people seem to enjoy reveling in false perceptions, and the Dems have done some effective preemptory legwork regarding Perry.

    It’s nothing one good debate won’t cure, though. The Truth has a luster all its own, and anyone who wants to see it recognizes it instinctively.

  • Doc Holliday

    why not snag a few Yanks?

  • forphase1

    Not only do I not think she will get into the race, even if she did I’m not sure she would take the lead over Perry. While Palin has her supporters, I don’t think she would become the favorite. If she were to jump into the race, I’d see Perry @ about 25 percent (Palin takes a few from him), Romney @ 18% (I don’t think many Palin supporters are currently strong Romney supporters), Palin around 15% (mostly ex-Bachmann supporters), Paul 9% (no change) and Bachmann 3-5%.

  • izoneguy

    We know it – they know it or don’t?

    They are scared that the gravy train is coming to an end.
    There won’t be much work once the lefty newspapers and
    web sites go out of business.


    Soros: I Can?t Stop a Republican ?Avalanche?

  • Repair_Man_Jack

    I agree. You make a very cogent point. Here is some data to help us all out.

    http://www.politicalmathblog.com/?p=1590

  • justfedup

    Gov Perry is a good politician & has a good sense of the way the wind is blowing. The operative word is “politician”.

  • Repair_Man_Jack

    I wouldn’t trust those dudes any further than I could’ve crapped them. Excellent advice.

  • Jim Tomasik

    kjhk;

  • http://www.hakubi.us/ Neil Stevens

    It sounds like you’re the ignoramus in the room.

  • msctex

    the disaster that is Socialized Medicine. Simple as that. And doesn’t it tell you something that if the Dems could choose our candidate (again), it would more than likely be Romney?

    Some things just have to crater your Conservative bona fides. It is difficult to imagine anything plausible which could more qualify.

  • http://www.hakubi.us/ Neil Stevens

    People don’t vote by location much anymore. Ask Algore circa 2000.

  • msctex

    Quite possibly. But as I said, they occasionally manage to accomplish minor victories, and among them is a current pervasive sense amongst a minority that Perry might not be what he seems to be. But as long as you and others keep pointing out the facts, the 15 months we have with which to work should be enough to set all to rights.

    And, any debate of course will prove a bloodbath. The thought actually brings out an involuntary sense of pity in me which I would rather suppress.

  • Darin_H

    but a Perry/Rubio ticket? Yeah, I’m excited by that.

  • avgjo

    That’d be Obama’s nightmare.

    It’d kill the whole racist crap.

  • Spartan4Life

    ….he’d snag an endorsement from Kelly Ayotte. She can’t be a big fan of Mitt and looks like a future star.

  • redtillimdead

    Would even be a strong ticket. Southern man, smart, northeastern young mother

  • Finrod

    Then a Perry/Giuliani ticket would do more for that than Perry/Romney. Wouldn’t put NY into play, but it could pull NJ over into uncomfortable territory for Obama, especially if PA is looking close too. No way can Obama lose either PA or NJ and be re-elected.

  • snowshooze

    Just adding fuel to the fire.

  • http://www.redstate.com/thesophist TheSophist

    to lose a single principled conservative Senator, even to be the VP. Not with the Senate the way it is. Rather looking to help send Rubio et. al. reinforcements.

    I’m sort of fond of the idea of Perry/Cain personally, since Cain holds no elected office at the moment. And what better way to symbolically proclaim “We’re open for business” than to nominate a lifelong businessman as your running mate?

    But I suppose that’s unlikely. :)

    -TS

  • izoneguy
  • http://www.usdebateboard.com usdebateboard

    n/t

  • acat

    .. simply because she’s a governor, and wer’e going to *need* Rubio in the Senate to keep Brown (R-Mass.) and Kirk (R-Ill.) and the Maine Twins in line.

    Mew

  • Doc Holliday

    by the JFK/LBJ model. I figure Romney is moving right, he knows about business, and the Veep slot is the safest place for him.

    I would prefer Perry/Rubio, but that loses us a Senate seat. Perry McDonnell could work, but then we lose a governor. If Romney keeps moving right, he would not be a bad veep pick. He has the campaign chops by now.

  • Doc Holliday

    and Romney has blown enough on politics to keep us all in high cotton. I don’t see the problem, he has an infrastructure, donors, and even is tanned. Sure some are better, but Romney might be able to pull some of those independent brain deads.

  • Doc Holliday

    but I don’t trust Florida to get it right again.

  • acat

    Ace of Spades’ contributor Gabriel Malor doesn’t think going after Bernanke is a good idea .. although he’s buried it in the foot of a story on a Palin media fumble….

    Go read Ace for yourself if you’re curious.

    Mew

  • Doc Holliday

    the stumbling block with Rudy is the same with Mitt. Answer the question sir “will you pledge to never add additional federal gun-control laws”

    I still say both have to face this question, and answer it before I green light either. It is a shame that no one from the media will ask them this simple, straightforward question.

  • Doc Holliday

    don’t apologize, that show weakness. Don’t say it again, just move on.

  • http://www.usdebateboard.com usdebateboard

    And Dana Perino is attacking the Iowa Tea Party leader.

    With friends like that…

    Objecting to printing more money is a winning issue, in Peoria or anywhere. If Ron Paul didn’t sound like George McGovern on defense, he wouldn’t be as marginal.

  • spainishirish

    nt

  • izoneguy

    At least she is a good looking RINO.

    But the crap that has come out of her mouth lately has
    left a bad taste in my mouth……

  • BigRedConservative

    Using state funds to pay for trips to his lover whilst in a marriage isn’t the sort of example we want to set. Simply on the basis of that I won’t consider him.

  • Doc Holliday

    as usual we disagree. I guess the sun will still set in the west, BigRed”Conservative”.

  • acat

    invalidate Rudy.

    I’m more concerned about his past firearms stances from a policy front, but his rather messy personal life would be – provably (2008) – a problem for more socially conservative voters, just as Gingrich’s is proving this cycle.

    I’m still liking Rudy for A.G., but .. there’s younger and more three-legged northeastern conservatives available, if Perry decides for a regional-appeal strategery.

    Mew

  • forphase1

    I know many in my neck of the woods that won’t vote for Rudy under any circumstances. Sure, you many pick up a few northeast votes, but you may also lose some southern votes too. We have to pick back up VA, NC, FL, etc. Rudy may do more to hurt than to help the overall ticket.

  • Doc Holliday

    lol, some here would actually say that heh

    but check top link at Hot Air, he is not going to apologize.

    Obama has weakened the presidency to the point it is comparable to a substitute home room teacher. A leader does not apologize, a leader leads.

  • msctex

    It explains “the problem,” which you are for whatever reason clearly choosing to ignore. I don’t give a damn about his “infrastructure,” I care about what he would do given the opportunity. And his record proves ugly.

  • Doc Holliday

    I doubt he cares so much as to try to warp the nation. You might think I admitted a flaw but I didn’t. The VP is a joke, look at Biden; if Romney could help one iota in ending Obama, it would be worth it.

    See, i don’t expect much from my government; I guess you do. I just want them to leave me alone and get out of other people’s way.

  • onemovoter

    It gets you in the news, from there a candidate should keep focus on their primary message. Perry has his 4 points that are simple and to the point that help focus on what people are looking for.

    Acat you could be right, just depends on how long the story goes on. Most likely it will be forgotten in a week.

    Also for the Palin folks, you all know she’s agreed to do a “defending the Republic” event with Glenn Beck on Oct 7. To me this puts off any decision by her on the race till after then. Also a friend of mine said that he wondered, if Palin keeps putting off a decision until late and then decides not to get in, dragging all of her supporters along for so long, what will that do to them? Any thoughts or opinions on that?

  • msctex

    . . .a good place to start is not to elect anyone who could support Socialized Medicine, even to the VP slot. A position you seem not to recognize as being a heartbeat away from the Presidency.

    And yes: there is a huge, glaring flaw in anyone’s argument who could simultaneously propose both Limited Government and Socialized Medicine. It is a pure Contradiction only a Progressive could seriously put forth.

  • acat

    My guess is that the Palin supporters, that is, the ones who like her, hope she’ll run, but are willing to – as Palin put it – support a good conservative if one gets into the race – will slide over to supporting whoever she endorses pretty easily.

    The hardcore “Sarah or nobody” crowd is another story, but .. so are the “Barbour or nobody” crowd.

    In short, I don’t think a delayed decision not to enter hurts our eventual nominee. However, a bruising primary with Palin running and losing would….

    Mew

  • jaykali

    But it seems like a lot of times governors have to get a more experienced VP with foreign policy experience to help ‘balance’ the ticket. So not sure who he would pick. Altho it would seem like Rubio would give more votes than he’d take away so who knows. Anywho first thing is first, we’ve got to settle this here Republican field and we’re along ways away still.

  • rememberthealamo

    Can’t have Sarah as VP candidate twice. I can go with Rubio or Kelly. Hey, what about the Cuban-American Congresswoman from FL. Forgive me, cant think of her name. Some double last name like Ross-Diaz? Is she a possibility?

  • averagevoterdotcom

    I posted the same couple days ago.

  • Finrod

    It was a media smear to try to knock Giuliani out of the Republican primary race in 2008. It was proven false, but it did the damage it was intended to do, which is why we ended up with McCain.

  • http://www.hakubi.us/ Neil Stevens

    I’d say he hasn’t even proven he can ever get re-elected to anything, ever in his life.

  • avgjo

    nt