Regarding Jamie Radtke


UPDATED: As I note here, Jamie Radtke insists through her lawyer and the press that she was not drinking, so you’ll have to ignore the reviews of those spectators who saw her performance and thought she had been. That, of course, raises other questions about her abilities on the campaign trail to give that performance sober.

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I was fortunate not to witness Jamie Radtke’s speech at the RedState Gathering. Fortunate because . . . well . . . here are reviews of her speech from various witnesses to the train wreck, one of which was a link to this YouTube video:

And then these:

I tried to cut myself with a butter knife, it was so horrendous and never-ending.

and

she gets an invite, gets a nice slot to talk, gets drunk, and gets so embarrassing that I have to duck away rather than embarrass her further with interviewing her

and

I mercifully did not film it.

and

I hadn’t realized that it was going to be her campaign speech, and then I was mesmerized by the trainwreck.

and

She was a drunk rambling idiot that took 30 minutes to introduce a director who himself was confused.

and

It was beyond painful. At first, I was just embarrassed for her and felt a little sorry for her. But by the end of it – which I for while feared would never arrive – I was all ‘OMG, I *hate* you, STFU.’

After this incident, perhaps I was a bit too vocal I’d not actually be supporting her campaign. I assume this act of self destruction in front of 400 attendees of the RedState Gathering is why Jamie Radtke’s campaign decided to orchestrate a hit job on me in the Politico after I both endorsed her campaign and allowed her to speak at the RedState Gathering.

The basic allegation is that I have not aggressively pushed her campaign because my bosses at Eagle Publishing have a relationship with George Allen and asked me not to support her.

Actually, my bosses at Eagle Publishing do in fact have a relationship with George Allen, and a very good one, and asked me — after I endorsed her — to please go slow for once instead of shooting first and asking questions later.

I love my bosses and my employer and the owner and was happy to accommodate their very first request in my five years of employment to go slow on an endorsement.

To be clear: my bosses were not telling me to stay out, but telling me to wait a while. Perhaps Cuccinelli would get in. Perhaps someone else would get in. Perhaps Radtke would implode.

Over the past number of months we have fronted multiple posts to the front page by Jamie Radtke and others touting her candidacy. I’ve made clear repeatedly that I would not be supporting George Allen because, while he will fight the Democrats, I see no indication he’ll ever fight Mitch McConnell.

In any event, the Radtke campaign clearly was not getting traction and they and their proxies began incessantly harassing me to write about her campaign and do what I did for Marco Rubio and Mike Lee.

I didn’t want to be the bad guy or burn a bridge needlessly, so instead of saying I wouldn’t because the campaign sucked and was going nowhere or that I would wait and keep being pestered with “now will you do it”, I told them I could not. It seemed at the time to be the easiest way out.

I was certainly wrong.

For some reason, the Radtke campaign thought it would be a good idea, after I endorsed the campaign and let her speak at the RedState Gathering — to introduce the director of “The Undefeated” no less — to put me in an awkward position and also try to play the victim.

My only guess is that after her performance at the RedState Gathering, I was perhaps more frank than I should have been that I’d definitely not now be helping her. So the campaign preemptively decided to spin a “poor pitiful me” story to the Politico.

Jamie Radtke is not a victim. She’s a candidate. And clearly a bad one at that.

Game over as far as I’m concerned.


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As a Virginia resident, this is not good. nt

RSSS Wednesday, August 24th at 12:06PM EDT (link)

radke is supported by the same looney tunes that support ron paul

mikeymike143 (Diary) Thursday, August 25th at 5:22PM EDT (link)

that right there tells me to support george allen.

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A short subtle note on endorsing too quickly...

justinhart (Diary) Wednesday, August 24th at 12:17PM EDT (link)

*cough* Stenberg *cough* over *cough* Jon Bruning…

Just saying – full disclosure Bruning is one of my clients.

You know I luv ya Erick.

 

I don't know Radtke, but I know Allen is a good man

Doc Holliday (Diary) Wednesday, August 24th at 12:23PM EDT (link)

I support him in all his political endeavors. I think Allen has been more loyal to our party, than they have been to him.

Molon Labe!

 

Politico piece?

Derek V. Baker (Diary) Wednesday, August 24th at 12:24PM EDT (link)

I didn’t see and cannot find the Politico piece Erick refers to. Anyone want to provide a link?

This is very unfortunate, since Allen is obviously not the ideal candidate and a more conservative candidate is certainly preferable.

 

Virginia Conservative

aposematic Wednesday, August 24th at 12:24PM EDT (link)

Agree with your Allen observation…insider all the way! Too bad about Radtke, I had some hope of change…guess not as now seeking someone to challenge Allen but I don’t think Cuccinelli will challenge Allen.

aposematic in VA

 

This clip is underused.

earlgrey (Diary) Wednesday, August 24th at 12:24PM EDT (link)

nothing else to say except I get her last name mixed up with the autoczar wonderkid rathke

 

Thank you EE

Scope (Diary) Wednesday, August 24th at 12:30PM EDT (link)

When you posted your endorsement of Radtke, way back when, I knew who she really was, and posted what I knew at the time. Some others also posted info about her, and her shady past with her relationship to the Tea Party Patriots in Richmond. To date she still has never divulged where the donation monies went.

You had a problem with Huntsman, still working for Obama, and planning on the side a run against him. Radtke also worked for George Allen, albeit in a lowly position, while colluding with a true Allen hater. Her entire campaign has been nothing more than to attack Allen, while saying little, if anything about her own strengths and positions and plans. She obviously has none. It is amazing that she is still able to stay in the race, as she has no financial support at all. She’s out begging her few supporters to donate enough money for her to lease a campaign bus, wrap and all, in order to campaign around the state.

As to her, and her few supporters attacks on you, welcome to the Ron Paul method of demanding support for their candidates. No surprise there.

Thanks though for being an honorable and big person in admitting that you may have jumped the gun a little too early. No worries though, Radtke has less chance of winning the nom than does Beep Beep the Roadrunner. Polling showing Allen with 68% to Radtkes 6% bears that out.

Ditto, Erick.

kinggold Wednesday, August 24th at 12:41PM EDT (link)

I was afraid, when you endorsed Radtke out of the gate, that you might have jumped the gun. It may have been partly because of your higher-ups’ counsel, but I’m glad you took a wait-and-see approach.

It’s very big of someone to admit they have acted hastily, and I applaud you for doing so. I mean that sincerely.

 
 

I can't even put into words...

fedsocdan (Diary) Wednesday, August 24th at 12:34PM EDT (link)

…how freaking awesome it is that video accompanies this post. Erick, you made my day sir.

I do hope Allen pulls a Hatch and swings to the right when he’s back in the Senate. He comes off as conservative; especially so in a recent interview with Levin. But then again, so has Paul Ryan.

I just want to hear one of these guys say they want all gov’t departments closed except for Defense, Treasury and State, and make it clear all other functions should be handled by the states. That really shouldn’t be too much to ask.

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hahahaha ... Radtke's website

hoosierstate Wednesday, August 24th at 12:51PM EDT (link)

I popped over to Jamie’s website (http://radtkeforsenate.com/home/) and the very first image that appears is of $10 bills. Someone at her campaign is either incredibly stupid or is in violation of photo copyrights. The image has a huge deposit photos watermark layered in the center of the photo. The image can be found legally here: http://depositphotos.com/2033640/stock-photo-Heap-of-ten-dollars-isolated-on-white-s.html. For someone who is already having a difficult time running a campaign, I’m surprised they would do something so obvious on their website.

Website updated

hoosierstate Wednesday, August 24th at 2:03PM EDT (link)

It didn’t take but 10 minutes and the Radtke campaign team had pulled down the image in question. This prompted Ben Smith at Politico to tweet this: http://twitter.com/#!/benpolitico/status/106417074242457600. (You’ll have to copy and paste URL)

 
 

I am glad that the truth came out regarding Radtke early

runner12 (Diary) Wednesday, August 24th at 12:55PM EDT (link)

I do not blame you for initially endorsing her, Allen has some issues of his own and Radtke was saying all of the right things.

I think that we need to be on the lookout for people such as Radtke who mimic Tea Party talking points, but are a.) not goood candidates or b.) are more closely linked to Ron Paul, rather than Conservative.

Remember that RP is trying to take credit for the rise of the Tea Party.

I was reminded by another post the other day about the Medina candidacy for Gov. in Texas not too long ago. She sounded great from the outset and enjoyed initial support from some Conservatives. Then came a Glenn Beck radio interview where an innocuous question regarding 9/11 resulted in her all but admitting that she was a 9/11 truther. That was the end of her campaign because she was shown to be way off the reservation.

Now, look.

Loren Heal (Diary) Wednesday, August 24th at 2:02PM EDT (link)

Jamie Radtke, whatever you may think of her, is as authentic a tea partier as there is.

Jumping in to a statewide race for a federal office is a big step, and it appears she has stumbled in making it. There are lessons to be learned running for school board that can be used when running for higher office.

But “mimic Tea Party talking points”? Ridiculous.


Join the Concord Project, and follow @lheal, if you dare.

Actually Loren

Scope (Diary) Wednesday, August 24th at 2:18PM EDT (link)

Shouldn’t that be the other way around. Would it not be much more wise on Radtke’s part to run for a local or state office first, and get her feet wet there, where stumbles aren’t so widely known?

Being an authentic tea partier doesn’t automatically equate to good judgement. With 400 attendees at the RS event last year, when she was there as a guest speaker, I’m sure that at least some of those people saw her actions, and they are probably reflected in some of the quoted comments in the diary. I appreciate EE’s respect for confidentiality in not naming any members, just as we have never seen any pictures of the attendees. No one needs the abuse and harassment that EE apparently gets on a daily basis, with emails, and nasty comments.

It is naive for anyone to not acknowledge that there are Ron Paul type Tea Partiers, and there are also three legged stool type Tea Partiers. Radtke unfortunately belongs to the first group, as has been displayed with her public attacks on EE because he hasn’t promoted her.

That's what I said.

Loren Heal (Diary) Wednesday, August 24th at 2:32PM EDT (link)

You’re conflating policy and tactics.

I don’t understand where the Paul reference comes from, other than you not liking him or Radtke.


Join the Concord Project, and follow @lheal, if you dare.

 
 

I apologize, Loren

runner12 (Diary) Wednesday, August 24th at 6:14PM EDT (link)

You were correct to call me out on that. I should not make a value judgement like that on Ms. Radtke. She may be as sincere as they come.

But appearing to be intoxicated or so unprepared in your speech that you seem so in front of a crowd pre-disposed to like you is more than a stumble. It is a disaster. Now this may be exaggerated, as I have not seen a video of the speech. But when so many people repear the same thing, it is a problem nonetheless.

This was a big moment for Ms. Radtke and no amount of inexperience excuses presenting yourself in an unprofessional manner. After all, when called on in our workplaces to give presentations, we know what is appropriate and what is not.

That is correct.

Loren Heal (Diary) Thursday, August 25th at 10:24AM EDT (link)

It doesn’t appear, from all reports, that she was actually drunk. As near as I can determine, she took the stage to introduce Steve Bannon and pulled a Bill Clinton, taking that moment for herself instead of the film.


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No

mickhensley Wednesday, August 24th at 2:54PM EDT (link)

Medina didn’t sound great from the outset. She sounded like what she was and is, a Ron Paul protege.

It may have been more apparent to those in TX

runner12 (Diary) Wednesday, August 24th at 6:16PM EDT (link)

But to others around the country, she seemed decent until the rumors of being a truther circulated. The end of the line for her was her confirmation of the rumor on Beck.

 
 
 

Okay Eric... where is the video of this so-called embarrassing speech?

pineros Wednesday, August 24th at 1:10PM EDT (link)

The ball is now in Eric Erickson’s court…. where is the video?

Just like the claim that Tea Partiers shouted the N word at Pelosi, etc. and Breitbart demanded the video of it… I do the same to Eric Erickson on this “drunken rambling” that Radtke gave.

In this day and age of video on everything, how about the video clip of Radtke’s “drunken speech” that you promote as your justification for some of your flip flopping re her candidacy?
You promote the idea that she was drunk and gave a ridiculous speech introducing Steve Bannon…
where is the video clip?
I demand the video. Pure and simple. You put out that it was a disaster and embarrassing. Lets see it please.
I am sure that there is video of everything else at the Red State gathering… can we please see the video of her “ramblings” so we can see for ourselves.
I would like to make up my own mind rather than depending on your word which we now know is not very good as it seems to morph when it comes to financial backing and continued employment running this site.

I’m a Canadian who was already banned for trolling, but is so obsessed with RedState I came back again to keep trolling.

why are you here?

Darin_H (Diary) Wednesday, August 24th at 1:16PM EDT (link)

you seem to add nothing while complaining about everything.

How about asking *politely*?

A visionary coward says that anger can be power, as long as there’s a victim on TV – Flat Top, Goo Goo Dolls

We've actually banned him before

Erick Erickson (Diary) Wednesday, August 24th at 1:18PM EDT (link)

But I’ve been trying to be a generous soul.

Who will stand on either hand and keep this bridge with me?

Yeah, I don't think it's working out :)

Darin_H (Diary) Wednesday, August 24th at 1:24PM EDT (link)

Gruff without any of the redeeming qualities of Tbone or ‘Becker (or Art Chance IMO)

A visionary coward says that anger can be power, as long as there’s a victim on TV – Flat Top, Goo Goo Dolls

YO,"pineros", acting like a 6 year old at

funwithknives Wednesday, August 24th at 1:49PM EDT (link)

a grocery check-out line and seeing Hershey’s (with nuts) gets you zilch here.
THE BALL? DEMAND? …simple(?) , in your case, we can mostly all agree on.
Who’s this *WE* you are talking about anyway? how about a trade? You link a video of you acting like a human and then WE’ll See.

 
 
 
 

pineros- You are

Scope (Diary) Wednesday, August 24th at 1:44PM EDT (link)

an obnoxious moron, but, we all know that that is the first class taught in Paulboting 101. You demand (LOL) that Erick release the Radtke video, which by all accounts above, was such a bad reflection on her and her candidacy, that it was cringe inducing. So, I will agree, please do release the video, and let it play across the web, which would undoubtedly do in her non-campaign campaign. When you are dressing yourself in the morning do you take an hour trying to figure out which sock goes on what foot?

I agree with Darin H. When a child throws a tantrum because you refuse to give him that cookie 5 minutes before dinner, it does not help to just shut him up by giving him the cookie.

I hope you don't think

itrytobenice (Diary) Wednesday, August 24th at 2:06PM EDT (link)

I’m an obnoxious moron for saying this (though, as I frequent Ace of Spades, I technically am a moron) but I’d like to see the video as well.

Also, I’m interested to know the sources for all those quotes slamming Radtke. Are they people in the Allen campaign? People from RS? People who are officeholders? Who are they? There is no indication at all.

And to sound just a bit paranoid, I’m getting a little weary of having all our female candidates slaughtered like this. Some of them I like a lot; some of them I like a little; some of them I’m not crazy about; but ALL of them have been run through a virtual beltline in the media and in conservative circles.

If they are not Margaret Thatcher, Madonna (the real one), Mother Teresa, and a female Winston Churchill all rolled into one, they are all of a sudden stupid sots who have no business breathing the same air as our professional politicians. Sarah Palin, Sharron Angle, Michelle Bachman, Christine O’Donnell, and now Jamie Radtke. I’m not accusing anyone of sexism, just pointing out that we don’t have very many perfect people running at any level, but the vitriol directed against our female candidates is so bad that it begins to look like piling on.

Proper grammar saves lives.

Let’s eat Grandma.
Let’s eat, Grandma.


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I was the source for the video in this post.

Aaron Gardner (Diary) Wednesday, August 24th at 2:13PM EDT (link)

I sat at the front left table, directly in front of Radtke while she spoke. It was painful to watch and listen to her ramblings.

This has nothing to do with her being a woman, it has to do with her not being a good candidate.

People were sitting at tables and eating their dinner while waiting to see The Undefeated. I didn’t see anyone recording.

If my personal testament to the atrocity that was Radtke’s speech isn’t enough, I am sorry that I have nothing more to give you.

She should have waited to start drinking after her speech, which was only supposed to be an intro to Bannon, but turned into a 30 minute campaign speech.

conform and celebrate diversity….or else!!!

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I don't guess the video needs a source

itrytobenice (Diary) Wednesday, August 24th at 2:26PM EDT (link)

As it is video.

The quotes would be more reliable if we at least had some idea as to who said it.

And by this comment, I take it that there is no video of Radtke?

Proper grammar saves lives.

Let’s eat Grandma.
Let’s eat, Grandma.


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What would that gain itrytobenice

Scope (Diary) Wednesday, August 24th at 3:21PM EDT (link)

Just so that if someone at the RS gathering said something negative about Radtke, you would know who to call out on these boards? Obviously the quotes came from the RS gathering attendees who were there to witness the speech, and behavior. What do you need to know further than that?

I know this

itrytobenice (Diary) Wednesday, August 24th at 4:14PM EDT (link)

At the time of the RS gathering, I don’t remember a bunch of tweets of OMG, She’s Drunk!!! Granted, I don’t follow twitter 24/7 nor do I follow all the attendees, but still…

I know that I am reading a blog post by a guy who’s employer supports Radtke’s opponent, though we don’t know the extent to which they have directed him to support the opponent or refute his previous choice.

I know that I have anonymous quotes slamming a candidate with *no* indication as to who made the observations. It could have been EE’s friends; it could have been Radtke’s opponent’s supporters; it could have been other politicians; we just don’t know. He doesn’t even give an indication as to who they are, let alone names.

I know that I haven’t seen any video to support the accusation, though there was ample video of the rest of the conference.

I know that I don’t know Rathke from Adam; don’t know the race; don’t know whether or not she’s any good.

I know that I’m getting tired of seeing our candidates slaughtered by guys on our side. We have Huntsman giving the DNC their talking points. We have Rove giving the DNC their talking points. We have “anonymous” slams by staffers against Bachmann for having headaches, ad infinitum.

I know that the left has Maxine Waters, Hank Johnson, Charlie Rangel, Claire McCaskill, Barbara Boxer, et al and NONE of their bloggers are destroying them even though they are full on losers without enough brains cells to function at anything other than a brain stem level. For some reason, our side takes people with whom we agree on 95% of all issues and treats them like $h!t for some real or imagined fault. We destroy our candidates, their reputations and make them look like fools and then wonder why we can’t get good people to run and take on some of these establishment, corrupt, hard-hided politicians.

Proper grammar saves lives.

Let’s eat Grandma.
Let’s eat, Grandma.


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I haven't seen Erick utter

aesthete (Diary) Wednesday, August 24th at 4:49PM EDT (link)

an unkind word about Christine O’Donnell, Michelle Bachmann, Sharon Angle or Sarah Palin. If the statements regarding Jamie’s speech at RS are true (and I have no reason to believe that they are fabrications), then there is nothing unkind about Erick referencing them in a post that is meant to address the sensitive subject of why he is pulling back an endorsement.

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-P.J. O’Rourke

 
 
 

You are in no position to demand anything. nt.

Danielle Davis (ocleverone) (Diary) Wednesday, August 24th at 1:46PM EDT (link)

.

To me, “consensus” seems to be the process of abandoning all beliefs, principles, values and policies. So it is something in which no one believes and to which no one objects … There are still people in my party who believe in “consensus” politics. I regard them as Quislings, as traitors … I mean it. — Margaret Thatcher

Ok, I get that this guy might be a troll... but...

Jewels Wednesday, August 24th at 2:57PM EDT (link)

There are no sources for these quotes, and I can’t find anything from anyone, anywhere online that has a video of her alleged trainwreck of an introduction speech. If it really was so bad it deserves the Billy Madison treatment, why aren’t we seeing clips of it?

I’m speaking here as a Virginian who has no stake in this snit other than I want to vote for the best person for the job. Eric can check my stats to confirm if he likes, of course.

 

Go ahead... ban me for asking a simple question - where is the video?

pineros Wednesday, August 24th at 3:00PM EDT (link)

Considering it was described as a rambling, 30 minute drunken disaster, surely there must be a video clip of this.
With all those people in the room (400 according to Eric), and I would assume most with video ability, you mean no one caught it ?
Come on.
A lot of people who were there would be perceived or wannabee “reporters” or “commentators” and video everything.
On another post on this site, one person says he saw some of these emails re her being a disaster. So, people with video capability took the time to email this but did not video any of it?

This upsets me…. Eric puts up a post quoting many anonymous people claiming she is a dolt drunk rambling on for almost 30 minutes of gibberish or something and not one of them managed to catch any of it on video?

Like I said before, I remember the “they shouted the N word 15 times” episode that did not exist. Just because some people “say it” does not make it true…. as we all have found out many, many times before. This political game is so slimy and sleazy at times I do not trust anyone. Thank God for video to at least cast some light on some of these things.

To believe the story at this point, I think the video would settle it for everyone. Lets see the video.

And I won’t demand it… I will ask politely so as not to offend anyone with short fuses or fragile egos or skin in the game, so to speak….

Please show us the video clip of her “drunken ramblings”. Lets settle this and move on.

I’m a Canadian who was already banned for trolling, but is so obsessed with RedState I came back again to keep trolling.

pineros, has it even crossed your mind to consider

lineholder (Diary) Wednesday, August 24th at 3:06PM EDT (link)

that simply out of an effort to try to protect the dignity still remaining to a conservative who may have acted foolishly in this particular situation, no one is willing to contribute to that person’s complete and total public disgrace by releasing any video accounts of the incident?

Think it through for a second…if the accounts are true, what is the most likely outcome if a video is released?

kowalski to this, what's more

lineholder (Diary) Wednesday, August 24th at 3:19PM EDT (link)

Erick has provided an account of what he knows about the events that took place. So have other people. Each of them has said that no video was made, which in light of the description that has been provided, makes a great deal of sense. No one in their right mind would want to catch that sort of scene on video. If they started to do so, the minute they realized where things stood, they would have stopped taping immediately.

Okay, now the excuses are getting really stupid

pineros Wednesday, August 24th at 4:00PM EDT (link)

Shhhh….. don’t tell anyone that Radtke was drunk and made a fool of herself in front of 400 Conservatives because it might embarass her… and its better for all of us to just keep it quiet and just between ourselves… no point in making it worse.
ooops…
Eric already did that.

“I heard them say the N word at least 15 times”

Enough of this baloney. The simple fact is that Eric flip flopped in his support of Radtke (to preserve his employment) and came up with a number of excuses and explanations and justifications as to why he did that and in doing so, one of them was to publicly trash her as being a drunken idiot at his event.

Hey, is that the political game nowadays? The boss has the final word unless you don’t need the job. The owners of this site have a perspective, Keep that in mind every time you read anything at this site…. their candidates will get the postive press while the ones they don’t like will not get any or will get not so flattering coverage.

Eric messed up, recanted and that should have been it. To go out and publicly trash her to justify it and defend himself… i.e. throwing her under to bus the make himself look better… that is what pees me off.
If she really was drunk and screwed up… okay. She would probably screw up again in the next year or so if that is the case and she would be defeated in the primary. I did not know about this “drunkeness” before this post and would not if Eric had not shouted it from a highly visible “conservative” web site. Why bother? What is the point? To preserve a image? to protect ego?
I call bull crap.
Is this going to happen to more Republicans who aren’t in the Red State camp? who the owners don’t necessarily like?
I don’t give a crap about the video anymore…. I’m peed off that she was trashed very publicly like this when there was no reason for it. Last time I looked, she is a Republican backed by the Tea Party. How about letting the candidates duke it out themselves?
Is it the duty of Red State to trash any Republican candidate that is not “good enough” in the eyes of the “owners”?

How about trashing whoever is the Democrat candidate in that election instead? Or any Democrat?

Enough. This whole thing is something that never should have gotten public play in the first place. Ego… big problem here at this site with ego.

I’m a Canadian who was already banned for trolling, but is so obsessed with RedState I came back again to keep trolling.

It Kind of Is...

Repair_Man_Jack (Diary) Wednesday, August 24th at 4:09PM EDT (link)

Is it the duty of Red State to trash any Republican candidate that is not “good enough” in the eyes of the “owners”?

After four years of Herbert Hoover, the GOP had a really tough go of it at the voting boothes for the better par tof 1 1/2 decades.

Mr. Obama is pretending that an economic “recovery” is underway when he knows damn well that the banking system is just blowing smoke up the shredded *** of what’s left of that economy – James Howard Kunstler

 

believe what you want to, then

lineholder (Diary) Wednesday, August 24th at 4:13PM EDT (link)

My take on this situation is that you are defensive on Radtke’s behalf and upset that Erick isn’t endorsing her candidacy. You’re taking this personally, and rather obviously resent it, but you’re taking your resentment out on both Erick and RS by interjecting your own interpretation of what may or may not have been motivating factors in the incident.

In light of the fact that the events that have been described may in fact be true, I don’t see it as being “excuses” that people who were present may have responded with enough common decency to not want to have tape on hand that could be completely and totally devastating to another conservative.

 

I'm with you and others regarding the video

aesthete (Diary) Wednesday, August 24th at 4:54PM EDT (link)

but as confirmation, not because I think that Erick’s lying. Your assertions that Erick is acting improperly are just conjecture, without any evidence behind them.

“It is a popular delusion that the government wastes vast amounts of money through inefficiency and sloth. Enormous effort and elaborate planning are required to waste this much money.”
-P.J. O’Rourke

 
 
 
 
 
 
 

Have to pick and choose more wisely

Whacker77 Wednesday, August 24th at 1:45PM EDT (link)

Everyone is entitled to support whomever they choose. Erick did that by endorsing Radtke and also by endorsing Stenberg. That’s fine and I understand his motives on the issue. Still, well regarded names in the conservative movement shouldn’t endorse someone just because they are the most conservative. It may sound crazy, but the whole package ought to be considered.

George Allen may not be the greatest guy to ever run for Senate, but when compared to Radtke he is far and away a better choice. Radtke’s implosion proves that. I would argue the same can be said about Stenberg. He may be slightly more conservative than Brunning, but Stenberg’s a four time loser. Brunning has won statewide.

I just don’t want to see the conservative movement make the same mistakes it did in 2010. We went for Angle, O’Donnell, and Buck simply because they were the most conservative choices, yet each was a terribly bad general election candidate. It’s one thing to stand on principle, it’s another to lose for the sake purity.

Please, don’t see this post as arguing for people like Castle over O’Donnell. Instead, I’m just trying to make the point a person’s conservatism isn’t the be all end all. What did giving away seats with Angle and O’Donnell accomplish? Nothing at all. Their purity campaigns only kept the Senate that much more liberal.

Lots of folks would disagree re:Buck -nt-

Christopher Renner (Diary) Thursday, August 25th at 6:16AM EDT (link)
 

Any video of said speech?

benjaminz Wednesday, August 24th at 1:48PM EDT (link)

the voyeristic side of me would love to see the meltdown. If it wasn’t filmed she is incredibly lucky as this would be a great attack campaign footage.

Yes it would provide attack footage

Scope (Diary) Wednesday, August 24th at 3:32PM EDT (link)

from the rest of the field. Allen doesn’t need any ammunition against Radtke. Every time she opens her mouth, Allen’s numbers go up higher.

 
 

"may God have mercy on your soul", heavy,very

johnt Wednesday, August 24th at 1:57PM EDT (link)

and then the trap door was sprung? I would have suggested a coffee and a nap, maybe another line of work.

“a man’s admiration for absolute government is proportinate to the contempt he feels for those around him”. Tocqueville

 

This is ridiculous

karenmhurd (Diary) Wednesday, August 24th at 2:08PM EDT (link)

Sounds like Erickson and his handlers overplayed their hand.
Public drunkeness? From a woman who only has an occasional drink? (and almost never at a political function). No video of the supposedly worst speech on the planet? (plenty of you tube video of Radtke’s other speeches, including the Sammy Awards, and the Virginia Tea Party Convention). Notice how the leftist-style attacks are coming. Apparently it’s not the issues, nor the solutions Radtke proposes, but her mere existence that is sending Allen supporters through the roof.

So, if she wasn’t “electable”, or didn’t have a chance, why bother?
She must be a bigger threat to the GOP establishment than people realize.

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Obviously you weren't at the event.

Aaron Gardner (Diary) Wednesday, August 24th at 2:16PM EDT (link)

I was.

conform and celebrate diversity….or else!!!

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Any candidate that can't get higher than a 5%

Scope (Diary) Wednesday, August 24th at 3:36PM EDT (link)

support in polling, after being in the race since before last Christmas, isn’t exactly over the target.

Ms. Hurd, she isn’t electable, even without this post,.

 

I was there for this, too. Thoughts:

Christopher Renner (Diary) Thursday, August 25th at 7:05AM EDT (link)

1. I met her in the hallway afterwards, and she didn’t seem drunk to me (no slurring, staggering, smell on her breath, etc.).

2. I agree wholeheartedly with what Aaron and others have said about her speech. It was utterly incoherent, rambling, and bizarre. At one point she said something to the effect of “we need to move to the center”. Why on earth would you make that choice of words?

3. There are perfectly innocuous reasons why this speech wasn’t apparently filmed. It was during the very last session of the entire conference, and it wasn’t supposed to be a campaign speech. Radtke was supposed to introduce Stephen K. Bannon, and The Undefeated was being shown. This was all happening during dinner, BTW.

Now there may be a lesson here about the importance of having an empty camcorder with fully charged batteries on your person, even when you’re tired and not expecting anything YouTube worthy. There is not, however, a grand EricksonGestapoEstablishment conspiracy to suppress evidence.

 
 

This is why you don't let people cut in the front of the line

victrola Wednesday, August 24th at 2:17PM EDT (link)

It’s called vetting, and for whatever reason many conservatives get suckered in with bumper sticker slogans and ridiculous purity tests. Whenever I see some dingbat activist that has ZERO elected experience try to run for something like Governor or Senator, I run in the other direction. It speaks poorly of them and us.

I want to see at LEAST one election that you’ve won before you even float your name in that direction. It’s like a kid right out of college applying to be CEO of a billion dollar corporation. It’s arrogant and absurd.

Conservatives have got to get over this ridiculous “establishment vs outsider” nonsense, we lost far too many Senate seats and Governorships in 2010 with these hucksters. A seasoned office holder can also be a solid conservative (like Jim DeMint for example). I’m all for a good primary, but if the competition is some Christine O’Donnell type dingbat, I’ll take the “evil” moderate.

George Allen is about as conservative a Senator as you’re going to find who lost by a whisker in a Democrat wave election. Why on Earth would you want to risk this seat to someone that will likely crash and burn?

This.

Whacker77 Wednesday, August 24th at 2:27PM EDT (link)

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aesthete (Diary) Wednesday, August 24th at 4:56PM EDT (link)

George Allen has made mistakes, but he has a paper trail. Jamie Radtke is, at this point, worse than an empty suit.

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The ongoing Radtke saga

Scope (Diary) Thursday, August 25th at 10:50AM EDT (link)

Here is a direct quote from Sara James of the Richmond Tea Party

“Jamie Radtke is the candidate. She has the final say in what supporters she very actively courts, she has the final say about who manages and plans her campaign. She has the final say in who she shares updated campaign info with in order for them to work the blogs on her behalf. They’re called “surrogates” – and a candidate should choose them wisely.

If she hasn’t, well, that tells you something…… that many of us already know. She is not anywhere near ready to be a US Senator. The fact that she even thinks she is is, is what should scare people most of all.

A victim, she is not. If she is listening to campaign managers and high priced consultants who tell her they can get her elected, that they can make her a “rising star” in the movement, that they will get her gigs with all the big radio stars or talking head shows and through their contacts, all the right people will support her, and the money will come – it is because she thinks highly enough of herself to believe them. That’s not being a victim, that is being narcissistic.”

Even if Radtke wasn’t drunk, or didn’t give such a horrendous speech, as was witnessed by the attendees, Radtke has no experience or qualification at all whatsoever to warrant a US Senator’s seat. I’ve said this all along, the US Senate is not the place to enter the political world with training wheels. Because the fight is between the establishment and the non-establishment, doesn’t automatically qualify someone who has no resume, other than having run a Tea Party, to qualify simply because they have not served in elected office before.

 

We Are All Libertarians Now!

davidlgilmer Thursday, August 25th at 10:59AM EDT (link)

This kind of contemplation of the navel of purity and recounting of “He said … She said …” reminds me of a Libertarian state convention!