I wrote just last week that it was too soon to declare Rick Perry the new front runner in the race for the Republican nomination, but a week later things are starting to shape up well for him.
Gallup polling dispels the idea that Perry cannot beat Barack Obama. They are tied among registered voters, which would more than likely put Perry ahead in likely voters. Mitt Romney still polls better against Obaam and has more money, but Romney also has higher name identification. Interestingly, as Perry’s name ID goes up, his favorable ratings go up too.
Right now, though, the polls that matter are state by state polls.
In Iowa, Democrat leaning PPP reports that Rick Perry is now in first place with 22% with Romney at 19%. More surprisingly, PPP polled on Sarah Palin’s effects in the race. Surprisingly, for both Romney and Perry a Palin candidacy was statistically meaningless — both only dropping a single point. Palin herself came in below Ron Paul. This suggests, more than anything, that it is time for Palin to fish or cut bait.
PPP also reports that it will release a poll today showing Perry with a double digit lead nationally and, if it were a two man race, he’d be trouncing Mitt Romney with more than 50% of the vote. Lastly, PPP has a poll showing Barack Obama beating Perry, but by only six points. That’s actually not good for an incumbent President right now. Carter’s lead over Ronald Reagan’s at this point was double digits.
All this suggests that Perry is rapidly becoming the front running and consolidating the lead. In this is also a problem. The attacks on Perry will no doubt escalate and come from all sides. There are six months to go so Perry will have to take a lot and risks the Democrats and media defining him early.
Frankly, the media is going all out to prove it has a liberal bias disconnected from most Americans. From calling him a “human tornado” to working overtime to claim Perry had absolutely nothing at all to do with Texas’s economic boom — just like they’d have you believe Barack Obama has done nothing to keep the economy broken.
Perry may be ascendent, but it is a long time still before we have a Republican nominee.
Moe Lane
Dan McLaughlin
Dan Spencer
PG DeFreese
I think at this point
popster Wednesday, August 24th at 6:40AM EDT (link)Perry’s poll standings are premature, a lot is still unknown about him. The one sure thing you can say is he has stirred up the pot and given the race a whole new life.
He is and will remain the front-runner...
rsklaroff (Diary) Wednesday, August 24th at 7:10AM EDT (link)…for reasons explored/documented extensively two days ago.
http://www.redstate.com/erick/2011/08/20/on-the-nature-of-the-perry-attacks/
Furthermore, Sarah will endorse him on 9/3/2011, removing most of the remaining “oxygen from the room” that keeps Michele speaking and keeps Mitt motoring.
All those trial-balloons tethered to pro-choice Giuliani/Pataki will suffer the fate of those floated for Daniels/Ryan, and efforts to keep RINO-Huntsman afloat will inevitably fail, as well.
His “Fed Up!” encyclical is superb, and it contradicts any claim by Texas-Bushites [most recently articulated by Jeb] that “you can’t only be against BHO.”
Robert B. Sklaroff, M.D.
r.sklaroff@verizon.net
[the guy with the "RS-diary" dedicated to differentiating trustworthy conservative-pundits from inside-the-beltway-RINO's]
“…fighting for Truth, Justice, and the American Way!”
Sarah Palin endorses Rick Perry 3 September
bobguzzardi Wednesday, August 24th at 7:22AM EDT (link)dr. bob is my colleague from Abington, Penna., a western suburb adjoining Philadelphia. I live in Lower Merion, across the Schuylkill River, in very liberal Lower Merion, also, a western suburb adjoining Philadelphia.
It is our prediction that Sarah Palin will endorse Rick Perry on 3 September. The Governor and ex-Governor of the two largest states, both energy producing states, both experienced executives, both challenged power Republican Establishment Insiders and won, both from very inauspicious beginnings, is too logical to be ignored.
In our opinion, Rick Perry can win Pennsylvania with his unusual combination of common sense talk and sophisticated executive experience.
Sarah Palin, meanwhile, is the nation’s most brilliant communicator with a empathy for Americans who want want something better and are willing to work for it, for productive Americans who work, save and invest.
The biggest problem with Rick Perry
edniceville Wednesday, August 24th at 10:04AM EDT (link)Is that for a Governor of a border state, he gets a D- on his stance on Immigration issues! Check out the grid of Presidential hopefuls on NumbersUSA.com and see how they fare. You would think that someone as serious about being President would take a position 180 degrees from what is currently going on. Instead, Perry is very lax on immigration and says that securing the border will take care of it. Nothing is further from the truth. We have over 22 million Americans out of work, we continue to import over a million foreign workers a year NOT COUNTING the H2A agricultural and hospitality temporary visas! In addition, nearly every municipality, County and State are in violation of Federal Law Title 8 U.S.C. Sec. 1621, and have been since it was passed in 1996 as part of the Welfare Reform Act of 1996! Where are the stories on the outrage of that? Why isn’t someone standing on the soapbox screaming about how complying with this law will greatly help schools, towns, counties and states get a handle on their budgets?
“Everyone is entitled to his own opinion, but not his own facts.” – Daniel Patrick Moynihan
rsklaroff, I agree with you.
pttx333 (Diary) Wednesday, August 24th at 7:27AM EDT (link)I’ve been wondering lately if Sarah wasn’t going to endorse Perry on Sept. 3rd. I have read she is going to make a speech that day, and since she hasn’t assembled a formal campaign team (at least to my knowledge), it would appear that is what she is poised to do. That would really be something to feed to the media.
I am absolutely in Perry’s corner, but, naturally, will vote for the GOP candidate regardless. No way can we allow b.o. back into OUR White House. The others aren’t doing so well from the polls I’ve seen this morning; Michele seems to be losing steam, Romney is really tanking and, in my view, the others seem to be insignificant at this point, particularly Huntsman. I do like a few of them, but Perry is and will remain my candidate of choice. Of course, we are a long way from the actual horse race, but we will get there.
reading tea-leaves
rsklaroff (Diary) Wednesday, August 24th at 7:34AM EDT (link)Sarah said, a month ago, that she wasn’t satisfied that the field had been completely filled…and that she was not willing to commit to anyone therein.
Sarah has not yet repeated that observation, and the only new entry is Perry.
Most of the fence-sitters [such as John Bolton, just now, on FNC] are saying they will decide by Labor Day…and are reticent in the process.
Sarah can truly have but one “major” message to deliver on 9/3/2011…and one could imagine Perry could adjust his schedule to be alongside when she utters it.
Sarah created a reputation in 2010 for endorsing early, and she demonstrated the capacity to predict correctly [rather than simply to play-it-safe]; just like when she plucked Nikki Haley from the crowd [and they withstood the last-minute rumor-mongering], she will comfortably adhere to the tried-and-tested campaigner from Texas…and the MSM will become unhappy that much controversy–which generates readers/viewers–will have been removed from the race..
Robert B. Sklaroff, M.D.
r.sklaroff@verizon.net
[the guy with the "RS-diary" dedicated to differentiating trustworthy conservative-pundits from inside-the-beltway-RINO's]
“…fighting for Truth, Justice, and the American Way!”
Dr Sklaroff- I love your enthusiasm
Scope (Diary) Wednesday, August 24th at 8:29AM EDT (link)and the well researched and thought out way of arriving at your support for Gov. Perry. Sounds as though you and your colleague bobguzzardi have had some lively discussions about Perry. I’m somewhat familiar with the area where you both are located, and yes, it is as liberal as it gets in that area. The closer you get to Philly, the bluer it is. If you guys think there is a chance for Perry in that area, that is heartening news for the Gov., and really going some.
As to Palin’s announcement on Sept. 3, I also agree there is a great possibility that she will endorse Perry. Sure he could change his plans and be there with her as a surprise, however, he has already committed to Jim DeMInt’s event in SC, and that is a very important state, and DeMint is a very respected conservative for Perry to appear with. Palin’s endorsement is important, but a DeMint endorsement would be just as important and weighty. I believe Palin is supposed to be in Iowa for the week, and he can join her after the DeMint event. SC is a must win for Perry.
demint doesn't start until 9/5
rsklaroff (Diary) Wednesday, August 24th at 8:44AM EDT (link)http://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2011/08/22/four_candidates_accept_invites_to_demint_forum_111054.html
DeMint’s conference, however, isn’t until Monday, Sept. 5.
Robert B. Sklaroff, M.D.
r.sklaroff@verizon.net
[the guy with the "RS-diary" dedicated to differentiating trustworthy conservative-pundits from inside-the-beltway-RINO's]
“…fighting for Truth, Justice, and the American Way!”
Ooops
Scope (Diary) Wednesday, August 24th at 9:32AM EDT (link)I thought both events were on the same day. Then yes, Perry can be there for the big endorsement. To appear, as a surprise, would be awesome, and a news worthy event, and headline grabber.
Doc, Sarah's message?
bgintn Wednesday, August 24th at 8:54AM EDT (link)Could it be the other way around? Perry announcing her as VP?
And then off to SC and DeMint.
Way too soon
buddha1556 Wednesday, August 24th at 9:13AM EDT (link)The VP choice is too strategically important to announce before the summer. The VP is typically an attempt to sway some undecided voters. In my opinion, Palin will not be the VP because she appeals to too many of the same people, unlike 2008.
Too much can happen between now and them for a candidate to go forward with a named VP.
Yes,
bgintn Wednesday, August 24th at 10:11AM EDT (link)I can see your point, and could agree with you.
But I do not see this election as being like any others in the past. too much at stake.
Information moves quicker and farther.
I can see a commitment of a early Perry / Palin ticket as a bonus.
Governor, governor experience ticket.
Both have weathered the attack media.
Both have taken on the Good Ol’boy’s and won.
I can see them working well together.
As a commitment to upcoming reforms if you will.
She'd make a good lightning rod, too.
azaeroprof (Diary) Wednesday, August 24th at 12:36PM EDT (link)The media/Dems would not be able to help themselves. They would go after her mercilessly. This would deflect negative attention away from Perry, and frankly the public (even my lib friends) is sick of the attacks on her. The email thing (gosh, remember that?) was the straw that broke the camel’s back.
And I’d be willing to bet that there is a finite percentage (5-10?? doesn’t need to be big) of women who aren’t happy with Obama, but don’t like Palin and wouldn’t vote for her for POTUS, but who would welcome the history of a woman in one of the big offices and might vote for Perry with Palin as VPOTUS.
Most lightning rods don't come pre-loaded with so much static...
acat (Diary) Wednesday, August 24th at 12:47PM EDT (link)While the media would be going after her, there would be significant splash (guilt by association) on Perry.
I think that’d be good, especially if they win. The media need to be taken down a few pegs.
However.
What does Palin bring to the ticket by being in the Veep slot *other* than a group of loyal supporters, most of whom would rally to Perry if she gives the word, many of whom will rally to him regardless if he wins the nomination?
I’m not seeing it. Set me up some knowledge?
Mew
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Caveat Suffragator
A couple things.
azaeroprof (Diary) Wednesday, August 24th at 12:57PM EDT (link)(Don’t get me wrong, I wasn’t trying to make an argument that Palin is necessarily the best choice for Perry’s VP.)
You’re right, most of the loyal (and fervent) supporters will back Perry anyway. But I would guess they would be more involved and enthusiastic if she is still in the picture.
The big thing from a strategic perspective is that it would allow Perry to tack to the center. She would provide cover with the conservative and Tea Party coalition while allowing Perry to go directly towards the moderates.
Currently, the public and media see Perry as a right-wing competitor to Romney. He will likely have to run right to win the nomination. The conventional wisdom is probably that he would need to pick a more moderate running mate to help in the general. However, with Palin’s endorsement (and perhaps even teaming up as a pair early), he may have cover to invade some of Romney’s turf and set himself up as more of a centrist for the general (at least voter perception-wise, which is what matters).
I see your points. I even agree with some of them.
acat (Diary) Wednesday, August 24th at 3:40PM EDT (link)I agree, for instance, that picking someone who the Tea Parties like (Rubio being the gold standard, but others being possible) for veep would let Perry take the fight to Mitt.
I don’t think Perry has much cause for concern in doing so, certainly it will be a factor in the calculus of the decision, but .. I don’t think a large one. Perry has his own dollop of Tea Party cred, and should be able to bludgeon Mitt with his own record. “My State created more jobs on my watch than your State had people” or “I overrode my legislature, what did you do?”…
I do think Palin has become, in part because she has not done enough to change her image – too polarizing to be effective in the role you perceive. She would, in the general, be what the media want to focus on… making it harder, not easier, for candidate Perry to get his anti-Obama hits in, and making it easier for the Dem – especially if Obama retires – to run against Palin.
Mew
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Caveat Suffragator
How did that work out for McCain?
aesthete (Diary) Wednesday, August 24th at 5:42PM EDT (link)As far as I can tell, after the two-week honeymoon it just accentuated McCain’s flaws among the hardcore small government folks (that would be us) and scared independents off. Perry has enough populist conservatism in his rhetorical toolkit to last him 20 years; IMO a Palin VP would be redundant.
“The United States symbolises the worst ideologies in the world: growth and freedom.”
-Pentti Linkola, writer and environmentalist
You guys may be right.
azaeroprof (Diary) Wednesday, August 24th at 7:31PM EDT (link)Another issue is the fear that some have expressed here that the Palinistas will sit out or vote 3rd party if she is not the nominee. Personally, I don’t think that will be a problem, but if it starts to look like a possibility, then who knows?
The best thing about the VP pick if Perry is the nominee is that there is no way he can pick luaP noR (being both from TX)!
I think Phoenix will freeze over in August before
mbecker908 (Diary) Wednesday, August 24th at 7:44PM EDT (link)Palin took the VP slot with anybody. (And it’s 116 today) I also don’t think any of her supporters who will vote would stay home, any who would stay home or vote for a third party (or write in Sarah) would not likely be voting anyway.
Plus, if she chooses not to run I’m confident she’ll come across with a strong endorsement of the Republican candidate – probably at the convention.
Sarah for VP?
johninohio Wednesday, August 24th at 11:46AM EDT (link)I think the VP position is what Palin has been angling for from the day she quit the governorship. She has done everything she could to remain in the public’s political eye without announcing for or against a presidential candidacy, and without criticizing any of the actual candidates. She knows that she probably would never be elected president if for no other reason–the Media has been very successful in poisoning the minds of independents against her. But as VP, she will strengthen the ticket for conservatives and not repell too many independents. This would also give her a chance to make a name for herself as VP and enhance her chances for a presidential run at some point in the future. She’s still young.
Remember last time?
BigRedConservative (Diary) Wednesday, August 24th at 12:01PM EDT (link)I see no point at all for Palin to attempt to go near Washington. She is a demi-incompetent, gaffe-prone, one-term governor. There are many reasons why we lost in 2008, but the largest one was her. She would be detrimental to the party if she was on the presidential ticket in any respect.
And two and two always makes a five
It’s the devil’s way now
There is no way out
You can scream and you can shout
It is too late now
Radiohead
Disagee that Palin was responsible for the 08 loss
Scope (Diary) Wednesday, August 24th at 12:12PM EDT (link)Palin helped the limping along McCain campaign, or he would have lost in a huge landslide. I, and so many others, were able to wear gas masks to vote for the ticket, whereas if McCain would have run his choice such as Liberman, I would have needed a full suit of body armour to pull the lever. I do agree though that Palin is much more needed in doing just what she did in 2010, of course without some of the mistakes like Fiorina.
Agree,
bgintn Wednesday, August 24th at 2:02PM EDT (link)she lifted a failing McCain.
His campaign was so weak they did not capitalize on what she could do.
Not so with Perry. As for gaffe prone, compared to Biden?
She has had a few more years of sparing with the Media and the Democrats, a plus.
The reaction of the Karl Rove Machine would be priceless.
As a lighting rod she has proved that she dose not melt.
Everybody wants house cleaning, well?
Sarah was not the reason for the lost that RINO John (I was POW) McCain.
ihateliberals Wednesday, August 24th at 5:47PM EDT (link)McCain has been in the Senate for years and he still doesn’t know which side of the isle to sit on when he comes to work. IF not for Palin he wouldn’t have gotten as many votes as he did. Sarah is the only reason I voted otherwise I would have just let the invariable happen.
McCain wouldn't have had a snowballs chance in...
snowshooze (Diary) Wednesday, August 24th at 9:00PM EDT (link)Sahara… if not for Palin.
Now, I like Palin, but I ain’t exactly wild about her.
McCain showed himself to be such a softball, he couldn’t say dirt if he had a mouth full of the stuff.
I think Palin is all done with being #2, she will go for the gold, or she will not go at all.
Well-said
RichmondG30 Wednesday, August 24th at 1:16PM EDT (link)A Perry candidacy with firm support from the DeMints and Palins of the world will be enough to rally the base. Although I adore Sarah Palin, she is gaffe-prone and (as VP) would only serve to alienate the independents who have the potential to give us a landslide win over Obama.
A Rubio or Ryan VP would add to the ticket without all of Sarah’s baggage.
Rubio,
bgintn Wednesday, August 24th at 2:31PM EDT (link)“I have no interest in serving as vice president for anyone who could possibly live all eight years of the presidency,” Rubio, a U.S. Senator from Florida, said to laughter Tuesday night.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5BypW8Ev3lM
Does that mean Paul/Rubio is on the horizon?
Flagstaff (Diary) Wednesday, August 24th at 8:43PM EDT (link)nt
Words you don’t want to hear at a White House barbecue: “Barry, have you seen Bo?”
Ryan,
bgintn Wednesday, August 24th at 3:09PM EDT (link)To be considered,
http://www.nationalreview.com/articles/275262/five-reasons-ryan-bowed-out-robert-costa
I think you've been
Flagstaff (Diary) Wednesday, August 24th at 8:41PM EDT (link)sneakin’ bottles of Palin-ade out of the pantry and drinkin’ it straight.
She would never in a million years accept the VP position again. If you think she’s smart enough to be a good President (as I do), you should realize she’s smart enough to turn down a second chance at second place.
But she’d make a great Secretary of Energy as it’s dismantled by her.
Words you don’t want to hear at a White House barbecue: “Barry, have you seen Bo?”
The GOP needs to...
msjallen Wednesday, August 24th at 12:14PM EDT (link)get it all together. They need to stop bad mouthing each other to make themselves look better.
They need to challenge the “lies” that the Democrates are so clever to spew on line and on all the ABC news broadcast.
They need to stand up stronger for what we base our Republican ideals on and help more people to understand. I meet people who have conservative values but vote Democrate because that is what they were told to do. These are the people we need to reach.
So far, my vote is for Perry. I believe he can beat O.
LOL
smitch61 Wednesday, August 24th at 8:02AM EDT (link)seriously, LOL
We need to keep the big picture in mind.
jimmyneutron Wednesday, August 24th at 7:28AM EDT (link)The front runner is irrelevant, at least IMHO. There is a lot of time before we have to worry about who’s on first in this race.
What I would like to see is a continued disucssion and debate on ‘large’ principles, philosophies, ideas, etc – I would like to hear the candidates continue to express what they feel are the problems afflicting our country and how they would deal with them. I am not interested in nitty, gritty details and the nuts and bolts of their solutions. I want to hear enough to know where they have conservative ideas and where they tend to be statists who would merely try to run the entire mess better than the other folks.
One of the criticisms from the ‘smart’ people about the great Ronald Reagan was that he wasn’t smart enough and that he didn’t have enough details on how he would fix this, that or the other thing. He didn’t involve himself to the Nth degree in the specifics of policy reform, etc. However, I have agreed with those who feel that this was a strength rather than a weakness – perhaps his greatest strength. I would rather see a president who understood and really lived the important ideas (has a correct philosophy) and then has the strength of character to fight (really fight, no matter what) to see that philosophy implemented. You can always hire people to implement your policies, but no one else is going to do the fighting to ensure that the policies implemented are correct. That is THE key point.
I would like to see a complete end to personal attacks between the candidates. They should feel free to emphsize their strengths, as they see them, as contrasted to someone elses weakness, but no more personal attacks. Keep the race on a professional level and keep it about ideas.
Another benefit of doing this would be that we can begin to educate the general public on conservative thinking and ideas. Let the candidates quote Hayek, Sowell, Friedman, etc and bring their ideas to life for the general public. It may not help in this age of television, video games and internet pornography, but maybe it will help.
There is no one, political savior. This race has to be about ideas rather than personalities. Granted personality is required to be elected in this day and age (among those less interested and well informed than those who follow politics as we do), but it can not be the ruling issue. Thus, I would encourage all true conservatives to make this race a race of ideas. Force the candidates to engage in many debates and force the debates to be things of substance, not garbage. We need to hear the candidates explain their conservative ideas repeatedly. If we do so we can determine who is really a conservative in the sense that conservatism is who they are, not something they put on when required and we can also push this conversation further to the right where we may finally have a candidate who will fight for what is right and have the courage of their convictions to turn this ship of state around.
Finally, I agree whole heartedly with the premise of Mark Steyn’s latest book. We are in an existential crisis in the US and in the west in general. We probably don’t have much time to turn this around and thus I hope we take this opportunity to ensure that the republican candidate who we need instead of falling in love with a person or personality right off the bat such that there is no more discussion or debate of what needs to be done and, more importantly, what needs to be undone in DC.
Is life so dear, or peace so sweet, as to be purchased at the price of chains and slavery? Forbid it, Almighty God! I know not what course others may take; but as for me, give me liberty or give me death!
You are correct...
rsklaroff (Diary) Wednesday, August 24th at 7:42AM EDT (link)…and a speech last night illustrated why.
Guzzardi and I listened to a suburban-Philly Republican-Rep explain why he supported Mitt after Ryan dropped-out; he claimed Mitt would predictably snag more Indies/D’s than anyone else [meaning "Rick"]. He has won re-election during the past decade while adhering to this personal philosophy.
We disagreed with him [myself directly to his ears, Guzzardi later to my ears] because he was not referring to the need to discuss ideas-of-governance. This is where Rick is matured and experienced, having battle-tested his principles. One could easily envision a debate with BHO during which the ways he enhanced jobs/jobs/jobs in Texas would compare/contrast with BHO’s ineptitude…demonstrating to viewers/listeners the preferable guide to the 2013-economy.
Note that Rick has not attacked others [RR's 11th Commandment] except to suggest to a reporter that “apples and apples” should be compared when the Texas/Massachusetts data are invoked. One can envision ongoing candor-with-content gradually engulfing Americans yearning for answers. It is particularly telling that the PPP data show that people like him the more they get to know him..
This phenomenon will stump the competition, for everyone loves a “winner”!
Robert B. Sklaroff, M.D.
r.sklaroff@verizon.net
[the guy with the "RS-diary" dedicated to differentiating trustworthy conservative-pundits from inside-the-beltway-RINO's]
“…fighting for Truth, Justice, and the American Way!”
Why Not Quote the Greats
gregorysstewart (Diary) Wednesday, August 24th at 9:01AM EDT (link)I second the idea that the candidates need to quote “Hayek, Sowell, Friedman, etc.” Most Americans have never heard of them, and have no idea what they contribute to our success. Let’s have the MSM carefully try to explain what these giants are saying.
Why not let Friedman speak
renl57 Wednesday, August 24th at 9:24AM EDT (link)Friedman’s classic 10-episode TV series “Free to Choose” is available on YouTube. It’s still the best explanation of capitalism for the TV generation that I’ve seen.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D3N2sNnGwa4
All the GOP candidates–and the GOP itself–should have webpages that give Friedman’s bio and link to this series.
Why reinvent the wheel when the wheel is already here.
Here's the vid of Friedman, P 1.
gekster (Diary) Wednesday, August 24th at 9:29AM EDT (link)They say Republicans are for the rich, Democrats are for the poor.
If they need more voters,
then they have to make more of who they are for.
We are there in the various Tea Party groups, leaderless, but not rudderless.
We steer always toward the Constitutional principles this nation was founded upon.
Erick Brockway
I’ve gone from
“Hope and Change” to
“Hopeless and Changeless”
the same US Rep said...
bobguzzardi Wednesday, August 24th at 7:51AM EDT (link)that “getting our fiscal house in order” was the primary concern of voters in Montgomery County where we live. Debt and Deficit are key concerns.
Jobs is a secondary issue. Unions are not popular in Montgomery County and Pennsylvania’s Prevailing Wage Law adds 10 to 30 % to cost of municipal construction. Right to Work legislation will be introduced soon.
If PA can pass Right to Work legislation
Scope (Diary) Wednesday, August 24th at 8:54AM EDT (link)than it can be passed most anywhere. I was born and grew up in Northeastern PA (Hazleton), and all those years ago, you were considered to have made it if you were a member of a union. The best reflection of the attitude would be in the movie Dirty Dancing, when Swazy (sp) sarcastically tells his new found love that he will be going back to his old job once his resort stint ends, and wow, my uncle told me that he got me into So and So Union, Local Number so and so, big darn deal. That is/was the old timers idea of success, being a part of a union. If that attitude is changing, then there is great hope for PA. That must again be a result of having a Republican Gov., after all the years of statist Democrats, Rendell being one of the worst.
Put down the shovel, EE
buddha1556 Wednesday, August 24th at 7:54AM EDT (link)This is obviously just another veiled attempt by those that run RedState to marginalize Sarah Palin and cheerlead for Rick Perry. Don’t think for one second that empirical evidence will dissuade us “true conservatives.” Please continue to demonstrate your extraordinary bias and to cement your legacy as an establishment hack. /sarc
Do you think much.
gekster (Diary) Wednesday, August 24th at 8:02AM EDT (link)If you had been aroung for awhile,
you would see Erick does have support for Palin.
He is pointing at nutjobs like you and laughing.
Do a search on “Sarah Palin Red State”, to see for yourself.
They say Republicans are for the rich, Democrats are for the poor.
If they need more voters,
then they have to make more of who they are for.
We are there in the various Tea Party groups, leaderless, but not rudderless.
We steer always toward the Constitutional principles this nation was founded upon.
Erick Brockway
I’ve gone from
“Hope and Change” to
“Hopeless and Changeless”
No thanks
buddha1556 Wednesday, August 24th at 8:55AM EDT (link)I have no interest in letting the facts get in my way.
I'm pretty sure there's sarcasm involved somewhere
BigRedConservative (Diary) Wednesday, August 24th at 9:02AM EDT (link)The sad truth, however, is that quite a lot of Palinistas do sound like that.
And two and two always makes a five
It’s the devil’s way now
There is no way out
You can scream and you can shout
It is too late now
Radiohead
Palinistas
gunslingr45 Wednesday, August 24th at 9:26AM EDT (link)so what is the name for Perry followers?
Perrystroika Movement
Locked and Loaded (Diary) Wednesday, August 24th at 9:34AM EDT (link)nt
No GM, GE, or any GSE for me.
Don’t I have the right to do what I want with my own money? Or are you envious because I am generous?
Matthew 20:15 NIV
Sorry, missed the sarc.
gekster (Diary) Wednesday, August 24th at 9:04AM EDT (link)My bad.
I apologise and retract my remark.
Need more coffee and reading comprehension.
They say Republicans are for the rich, Democrats are for the poor.
If they need more voters,
then they have to make more of who they are for.
We are there in the various Tea Party groups, leaderless, but not rudderless.
We steer always toward the Constitutional principles this nation was founded upon.
Erick Brockway
I’ve gone from
“Hope and Change” to
“Hopeless and Changeless”
No worries
buddha1556 Wednesday, August 24th at 9:32AM EDT (link)I actually wasn’t sure if you were playing along, so I just went with it.
This is too funny
Scope (Diary) Wednesday, August 24th at 9:10AM EDT (link)You can go anywhere across the wide web and find many articles, written by many different conservatives, and find supportive articles about Perry. I’ve seen titles like Gov. Perry surging in Iowa, Perry gains important SC endorsements, or Perry doing very well in NH. Yet because EE writes a positive Perry article, he is nothing more than an establishment hack.
I would say that if you want to find only Palin cheerleading articles, they are out there also, and perhaps you would be happier reading those sites.
This absolute rabbidness for Palin is mostly the result of her keeping everyone guessing, playing all of her supporters like a violin, and stringing everyone along. It’s more than time for her to get in, if that is what she is going to do. I’m seeing more and more posts and comments from some who supported her, that they are not playing her game any longer, and are moving on to other candidates.
Palin reminds me of a radio commercial I heard recently. A woman runs into an old love who proposed marriage to her 15 years before, and she says to him that she has decided to marry him. He politely tells her that she will have to discuss that with his wife of 7 years, he didn’t think it would go over very well.
Hillary was the front runner
smitch61 Wednesday, August 24th at 8:03AM EDT (link)For a very long time… It means nothing.
If Rick Perry is the nominee then we might as well swear in Obama right now.
ihateliberals Wednesday, August 24th at 8:52AM EDT (link)Perry is hardly the Conservative’s conservative. he is a big fat RINO. We need a liberal republican like a hole in the head. What has happened to the Republican Party. I can’t believe GW Bush, Karl Rove, Micheal Steele, McCain, Boehner and other RINO’s cold do so much damage to the Party. If we are going with Romney or Perry then the Party conservatives might as well spin off a third Party now because it won’t affect the 2012 election anyway. I guess we are doomed to stay in this Liberal tail spin. The differences in the two Party’s is becoming a very gray area with the elimination of the conservatives. I thought the Tea Party was going to breath new life into a failing organization but with all the promising moves in 2009 with Obamacare they have become just a whisper in the night.
what makes Perry a rino? nt
gekster (Diary) Wednesday, August 24th at 8:55AM EDT (link).
They say Republicans are for the rich, Democrats are for the poor.
If they need more voters,
then they have to make more of who they are for.
We are there in the various Tea Party groups, leaderless, but not rudderless.
We steer always toward the Constitutional principles this nation was founded upon.
Erick Brockway
I’ve gone from
“Hope and Change” to
“Hopeless and Changeless”
Simple -- He suported the Texas Dream Act.
ihateliberals Wednesday, August 24th at 5:55PM EDT (link)A RINO is a Republican you can’t trust to stay on the right side of the isles. Perry, Romney, McCain, Boehner, Cantor and the list goes on. RINO’s have destroyed the Republican party. It use to be that the Republicans stood for something and come Hell or HIgh water they would not differ from that position. Now as soon as the Democrats start yelling comprise, which means they are losing, the Republicans just cave in and give them what they want. A liberal never wants to compromise unless they are in a losing position.
What specific part of the Texas Dream Act did you object to, ihateliberals?
acat (Diary) Wednesday, August 24th at 6:12PM EDT (link)That the student has to have graduated from a Texas high school?
That the student has to have lived in Texas for 3 years?
That these requirements meet or exceed the requirement for in-state tuition for students from other States who want to go be Longhorns?
That the student has to apply for citizenship?
The Texas Dream Act is not perfect, but .. it effectively reduces the number of “undocumenteds” by that last point alone – and since Texas has no income tax, anyone who has lived there for 3 years has already paid into the system via sales and property tax – the latter collected from rent paid to the landlord.
Mew
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gregorysstewart (Diary) Wednesday, August 24th at 9:18AM EDT (link)And at the same time, I’ll try to answer Gekster.
Perry is no RINO. That’s it. It’s a fact. A RINO is someone who acts like a Democrat, but run in the Republican party.
For Perry to be a RINO, I would have to see support for growing the size of government. Let’s see… Nope! None of that in his record. How about reductions in personal freedoms? I’m looking…, looking… Nope! Nothing there either!
RINOs are in the pay of tort lawyers and want regulations to expand… but Perry is inspiring tort lawyers throughout the land to raise money to stop him. The healthcare industry is flocking to Texas because of his tort reform laws. Sorry, but that is not very RINO like.
I know, I know. I should have guessed. Perry was looking into a way to solve his illegal immigrant problem and was unwilling to sign onto an Arizona style law. Well, its possible that he is the executive of the state of Texas and that he needs to be sensitive to a large component of his constituency. You see, that is part of being the governor of the second largest state in the US. As a kicker, he did try to kill sanctuary cities in the state. I know of no RINOs that would do that.
We need to be careful. All of us want to get to the same place. Some of us have a different perspective on how to get there. No matter who wins the nomination that person will need to beat Obama, and once that is done, he or she will have to govern the entire nation, and serve the entire constituency. In fairness, that is exactly what Perry has been doing in Texas for the last dozen years.
All those RINO's you mentioned
Scope (Diary) Wednesday, August 24th at 9:18AM EDT (link)who did in fact destroy the conservative wing of the party, are actually fighting against a Perry nomination, precisely because he is too conservative for their liking.
I think your problem is that those that you consider to be “the” conservatives are not viewed by the polled population as the best conservatives in the race. So, if my guy/gal is not leading the pack, everyone else in the race is just a big fat RINO.
You still don't get it. A RINO has become
ihateliberals Wednesday, August 24th at 6:07PM EDT (link)any Republican that you can’t trust to stay on the right side of the isle. It doesn’t matter how many conservative things they do when they compromise drastically with the left you no longer can trust them to stay devoted to conservative causes. They bend withe he wind. Maybe we just differ on the definition. But over my many years I have learned one thing and that is you decide what you stand for and you Stand for it no matter what. If you can absolutely be proven you are not right then you might consider bending but these guys all of them bend when the pressure gets too great. Like Boehner with the 2011 budget deal and then the Debt ceiling and then Obamacare and then and then and then.. Sorry if I offended anyone but I am just so Freaking sick of these wimpy Republicans like McCain and Steele and Rove and Bush although Bush even being a RINO is a better President than Obama could ever dream of being.
Then quit hiding behind labels and state what positions you object to.
acat (Diary) Wednesday, August 24th at 6:15PM EDT (link)It’s obvious that you don’t like something Perry has said or done.
Until you decide to indicate what that is, it’s just noise.
Mew
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lastresort Wednesday, August 24th at 9:21AM EDT (link)Perry will appeal to independents as well as disaffected GOP,s. and if you think the Tea Party is failing because it hasn’t turned into another arm of the GOP, then you haven’t been paying attention, we’re done with business as usual and the bloated, disfuntional government we have now needs to be cut down to size by We the People of all parties.
I don't disagree but where is all of the outrage.
ihateliberals Wednesday, August 24th at 6:20PM EDT (link)I just don’t see or hear it. Where are the marching on the Captiol and demanding action by these allege Republicans. Every time a “We the people” person speaks up now they are labeled a terrorist by the media and the administration and then nothing else is heard. I was very excited in 2009 and ’10 when they were marching on DC to stop Obamacare. I marched in my wheelchair with them. I am a Vietnam Vet and also a Reagan Republican and I don’t like to put up with BullStuff. BullStuff is mostly what I see in the current crop of candidates with few exceptions. Those exceptions again are being labeled as terrorist and extremist by the Left and the middle. The middle being the RINO’s. The right which is the conservative’s are continually demonized. and pushed aside. You called the Tea party another rmof the GOP. I’m sorry but until Micheal Steele let the RINO’s become the GOP the Conservatives Tea party or not were the Republican party. When you consider that we haven’t had a true conservative int eh White house since Reagan you can see how far to the left the party has drifted. Micheal Steele told the conservatives they weren’t welcome anymore before there was a Tea Party movement.
Marching is for lefties. Conservatives get to work.
acat (Diary) Wednesday, August 24th at 6:22PM EDT (link)Marches are great for stirring things up, but work is required to create actual change… and there’s been a lot of hard work going on since 2008.
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ihateliberals, the Teaparty is not
lastresort Wednesday, August 24th at 7:11PM EDT (link)just GOP if it ever was in the first place. There are many independents that are sick of the RINO’s and feel the Tea’s give them some kind of voice. It’s at the point now when they will refuse to wear the lables put on them by anyboby, what thinking person in their right mind would believe a group that is using their voice to make leaders accountable to follow the constitution of this country are terrorists? The Tea Party will rally when they need to and they’re not going away, I’m not a member, but I’ll be standing with them. Thanks for your service Vet, and hope you keep your eye on Perry, he’s a Vet too.
Tea Party is alive and well...
bs61 Wednesday, August 24th at 10:05AM EDT (link)just not out rallying!
now is the time for Romney
florida772 Wednesday, August 24th at 5:06PM EDT (link)Perry is divisive, and will turn off moderates we new to pick a candidate that can win
Are you kidding me? I am a Moron and i wouldn't vote
ihateliberals Wednesday, August 24th at 6:25PM EDT (link)for Romney if he was the last person on Earth. His values and Blue blood not Red is sickening. All he wants to do is replace Obamacare with Romneycare. What we need is “We the People care” and get rid of these slugs. I would rather lose the elections and be right than to win them and be wrong. wrong is the direction the Party is headed right now unless something drastic happens. WE have to stop the demonization of conservatives by the Republicans and the Democrats. we need to be marching and yelling at the top of our Lungs “We the people” want our government back!
the gop
florida772 Thursday, August 25th at 5:13PM EDT (link)cannot continue to appeal to just the far right, we are a big tent party that encompassing many different groups if we go the path you are suggesting then will will become a regional party.
Most conservatives upon hearing this....
Darin_H (Diary) Wednesday, August 24th at 9:01AM EDT (link)A visionary coward says that anger can be power, as long as there’s a victim on TV – Flat Top, Goo Goo Dolls
I predict Sarah will endorse...
lastresort Wednesday, August 24th at 9:07AM EDT (link)Rick Perry because she has her hand on the pulse of Americans who want Obama out. I’m a registered republican but have moved to be more independant like many others I know, Perry with Sarah’s help will pull us together, that’s why the libs are in full attack mode, their days are numbered.
I am in the same 'boat' with you.
carolina Wednesday, August 24th at 9:37AM EDT (link)The GOP has let us down in the past. We need to keep them honest (and conservative). Sarah (and DeMint) have helped a great deal in that regard.
Power corrupts……. including the establishment GOP.
I love that Perry is not in the pocket of the establishment. (they’ve been too busy grooming Romney; HA HA)
Mormon or moron?
yragnostaw Wednesday, August 24th at 9:12AM EDT (link)I will not vote for Huntsman, Romney nor Obama. You may call me biased or whatever, but I consider the Mormon Church a cult. Huntsman doesn’t have a snowball’s chance in the hot place of becoming the conservative nominee. So if Perry or one of the others does not get the nomination, that means the race will be between a Mormon (Romney) and a moron (Obama). If that is the case, I will leave the choice for President blank on my ballot–as I have on two other occasions (Carter/Ford and Clinton/Dole–neither deserved my vote!) I am telling you that there are many of us conservatives out here who feel the same way. So, if the Republicans want four more years of Obama, then choose Romney as the candidate. We will no longer go into the booth and hold our collective noses while we have to pull the lever for the lesser of two evils. You better listen!
I
gunslingr45 Wednesday, August 24th at 9:37AM EDT (link)have been saying that every since they told us to hold our nose and vote for McCain. I probably would have not done it then except for Palin. Now I will not hold my nose if they have a Reagan as VP.
I will go with Michele, Perry, Cain even West. But NO MITT, Obumber will win and I am not proxy voting for him like I did with McCain. In this race I am voting (or writing) Conservative!
And I consider you a member of the Cult of the
Tbone (Diary) Wednesday, August 24th at 9:40AM EDT (link)Stupid. How about this? You just don’t vote period because you obviously don’t understand the process. I bet you voted for Perot.
Of course, you can always write in “Paul” but don’t forget to take a cheat sheet with you.
Envisioning when all that is Left is the Right.
You just don’t vote period?
gunslingr45 Wednesday, August 24th at 10:02AM EDT (link)What are you a black panther?
Sorry been doing it longer than most of you young pups. And I think anyone who would vote for Mitt a member of the Liberal lite cult. I see no real difference between him and “The one”
Don’t like it, too bad.
Listen to the rantings of a religious bigot?
Justin Spagnolo (Diary) Wednesday, August 24th at 9:41AM EDT (link)nt.
“Knowledge will forever govern ignorance; and a people who mean to be their own governors must arm themselves with the power which knowledge gives. “ -James Madison
I guess this is an example of what Herman Cain was talking about.
Samsara (Diary) Wednesday, August 24th at 9:56AM EDT (link)I guess this is an example of what Herman Cain was talking about.
Cain Said:
“I know the South, and you have to win the South. Mitt Romney did not win it when he ran against John McCain” in the 2008 primaries, said Mr. Cain. “The reason he will have a difficult time winning the South this time is because when he ran the first time, he did not do a good job of communicating his religion. It doesn’t bother me, but I know it is an issue with a lot of Southerners.”
http://hotair.com/archives/2011/07/19/cain-romney-cant-get-elected-because-of-his-religion/
No that's not what Cain was talking about.
Justin Spagnolo (Diary) Wednesday, August 24th at 11:57AM EDT (link)There is a huge difference between what Cain is saying, and what this idiot is saying.
It’s one thing to disagree with another religion on a doctrinal basis.
It’s one thing to discount Romney for his non-conservative record.
It’s one thing to suggest that Romney needs to convince Christians that his decisions as president would not be coming from edicts out of Salt Lake City…
It’s quite another thing though to suggest that members of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints belong to a cult, and should be summarily discarded as credible candidates based solely on their religion.
It’s even yet another thing… when someone provides an ultimatum for their vote, when there have been no primaries at all.
Its clear he’s a religious bigot, and he deals with high levels of anxiety over things that have not yet come to pass, and could be prevented without ultimatums or tantrums, or bigotry whatever the case may be.
As a practicing “Mormon” I find no fault with Cain’s words, but I don’t think its fair to suggest that Cain represents this idiot’s view.
“Knowledge will forever govern ignorance; and a people who mean to be their own governors must arm themselves with the power which knowledge gives. “ -James Madison
Justin - well said. 5x5.
acat (Diary) Wednesday, August 24th at 6:29PM EDT (link)(Nothing to add, really. I’ll just be going. Bye.)
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We are not a cult. just more of what's wrong with
ihateliberals Wednesday, August 24th at 6:28PM EDT (link)everyone today judging people on their religion. I judge Romney on his politics the same as i judge them all. being demonized as a cult goes back to the 19th century when churches were losing too many members to the Moron’s. Just like the KKK talks about llacey’s etc.
Fruedian slip?
Justin Spagnolo (Diary) Thursday, August 25th at 11:38AM EDT (link)It’s good to know that calling us a “cult” is SOOOOO 19th century! But calling us “Moron’s” that’s the insult of the 21st century…
Anti-Mormonism has evolved so much!
“Knowledge will forever govern ignorance; and a people who mean to be their own governors must arm themselves with the power which knowledge gives. “ -James Madison
I agree EE
Scope (Diary) Wednesday, August 24th at 9:25AM EDT (link)that right now the state by state polls are very important. Seems that the state polls that have been released are breaking very favorable for Perry. In most all of them it is Perry and Romney sharing the number 1 and 2 positions, and Perry has only been in the race for a week and a half, as compared to Romney’s months long campaign.
Many were predicting that if/when Perry got into the race, it would be a fight between those two. Though it wasn’t a risky prediction to make, it is proving to be an accurate one.
I like Perry, but I think it's a huge mistake to underestimate Bachmann in Iowa
red_oakster (Diary) Wednesday, August 24th at 9:44AM EDT (link)Bachmann clearly has a formidable organization in Iowa. Leading in the pols does not translate into a caucus victory. If Perry is deemed the frontrunner and then loses to Bachmann, that will hurt him going into New Hampshire and South Carolina. On the other hand, if Perry can defeat Bachmann in Iowa, she is gone and he has the tea party all to himself. For Perry the challenge is to make inroads among social conservatives in Iowa.
It’s an interesting dynamic; Bachmann is trying to succeed using Huckabee’s 2008 Iowa strategy, while Perry is trying to repeat Bush 43′s successful Iowa strategy of 2000.
red oakster- I think it may be a problem
Scope (Diary) Wednesday, August 24th at 11:43AM EDT (link)for Bachmann in Iowa, not matter her terrific organization there. Paul has a terrific organization there also, but, that isn’t saying much. The latest Iowa polling has Perry in front, with I think Bachmann coming in third, after Romney. Looking at the state polling that has been released, it appears that Bachmann is fading in most polling. As acat said at one time, she appeared to be a placeholder among those declared at the time. It would appear she was holding the place until Perry got in.
It really isn’t an interesting dynamic that Bachmann is using the Huckabee strategy in Iowa, as her campaign manger Rollins was Huckabee’s campaign manager in 08. I would not be surprised at all if the day before the caucus, he doesn’t have Bachmann pull another Huckabee stunt with saying he wasn’t going to reveal the oppo research they did on Romney, but then inviting the press in to see all the oppo research, which was released to all of the national media.
I'm hopeful that the quick rise doesn't fall just as quick...
Justin Spagnolo (Diary) Wednesday, August 24th at 10:29AM EDT (link)At this point, if Rick Perry doesn’t implode, and there are no scandals surrounding him or his campaign, then I think its his to lose. His positives are where they need to be, his negatives are much lower than Romney’s.
I think you’re both right… but its good to be cautious and this is a state to state primary-delegate count and expectations managed thing.
If its a two man race, conservatives will have rid themselves of the Romney nuisance. Romney himself says “the water is fine”… he knows that more conservative candidates, splits conservative and tea party votes… and he skates on pluralities.
“Knowledge will forever govern ignorance; and a people who mean to be their own governors must arm themselves with the power which knowledge gives. “ -James Madison
Agreed, Justin. The risk for Perry is stepping on his tongue.
acat (Diary) Wednesday, August 24th at 10:49AM EDT (link)A “Dean Scream” event that causes his supporters to say “umm, pass!”.
That’s one of the advantages to nominating someone who has been repeatedly re-elected in a big, socially conservative State. If there was dirt, someone would have it. (and, unlike Obama, someone would come forward with it)
Mew
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Justin S- I feel confident that
Scope (Diary) Wednesday, August 24th at 12:05PM EDT (link)if there were any major destructive scandals that are factual, in Perry’s closet, they would have been revealed during his race against KBH. Rove and the Bushies went all in to support KBH over Perry, and they are not exactly pictures of civility and clean campaigning.
Agreed that if it is a race between Perry and Romney, we can finally boot Romney from the national stage. The secret is going to be for some of the candidates to man up and realize they have little to no chance, and to exit the race, sooner rather than later. I’d keep Huntsman in order to take votes away from the other moderate liberal in the race Romney. There will be another debate here shortly that will either help or further hurt some of those candidates, and the new polling after that debate will be telling.
There are without question other conservatives in the race, but, it is getting down to electability at this point. That is starting to be reflected more heavily in the polling. I’d hate to see a long slug fest between them which will only result in another McCain type candidate, Romney. If that happens the conservatives will have no one to blame but themselves for that disaster.
I keep remembering the 2010 GOP primary for the VA 5th Rep. seat. There were seven candidates, many of which were conservatives. No one was willing to bow out no matter how badly they were doing. The winner was the least conservative among them because the conservatives split the vote to hand him the nom. Same phenomenun as the McCain debacle.
I share your confidence...
Justin Spagnolo (Diary) Wednesday, August 24th at 1:40PM EDT (link)About the past, I’m talking about potential scandals going forward (whether real or perceived – mind you the MSM will throw feces hoping something will stick — dead girl, live boy — right?)…
Although, its tough to get anyone to bow out. I jokingly say to non-political friends that some degree of narcissism is an inherent requirement for any psyche of an individual that wants to run for President of the United States. I think people like Haley Barbour, Mike Pence, even Tim Pawlenty that seemed to me not to be in it for the title, but in it for the opportunity to do his best. I wonder what we’d be saying in Mitch Daniels had got in… would there be no hope of coalition in the three-legged stool?
I think a lot of the polling that we’re seeing with Perry skyrocketing, is the long awaited “electable”, and “non-CINO, to the point where I want to puke” candidate to enter the race. But I do believe that many feel or think that Perry can build the three legged stool coalition. That’s why he’s exciting, that’s why Romney will be propped up, that’s why Huntsman’s in this to be an attack dog on Perry and anti-squishy candidates.
There’s nothing wrong with Bachman, Cain, Santorum, Pawlenty, (even Gingrich and Paul have some redeeming qualities that would warrant an invite to the BBQ)… but their fan base is just that… its not a majority primary electorate(maybe good for some book sales, or cabinet position, or build up to a localized state race)… it is what it is, a desire to find someone that’s “Not Romney”.
In the case of Sarah Palin, it may be too late, had she gotten in earlier, she may have been able to build that coalition, although there may be some time still, if she does get in, its an uphill battle for her, primarily because Perry has the momentum, and is “acceptable” across the board. It’s possible Palin attempts to nab a headline of “kingmaker” and then focuses on her non-elected office career, or goes after AZ’s open senate seat.
I hope these polls convince others to go the way of Pawlenty, and clear the way for Perry, and if Palin is really going to jump in… I hope this doesn’t become a 3 way fight.
“Knowledge will forever govern ignorance; and a people who mean to be their own governors must arm themselves with the power which knowledge gives. “ -James Madison
You know Justin, that's an interesting thought
Scope (Diary) Wednesday, August 24th at 2:03PM EDT (link)From what we are hearing is that Palin’s Sept. 3 speech will make her plans known, while she won’t be announcing for the presidential race that day. Wouldn’t it be an interesting twist if she made her plans known that she intends to run for the AZ Senate seat? Not impossible right?
From the Daily Caller poll I linked here, that has been tracking where all real and potential candidates have placed for the past several months, it seems that Palin’s number’s were the highest around June. She has been going down ever since, as more people announced. If she is planning to run for the presidency, I’m not sure her window of opportunity hasn’t already closed. If she continues to play coy come Sept. 3, her support will erode still further.
Does anyone know if Palin will be paid for her Sept. 3 speech? I remember she wanted $100,000 for a speaking engagement in front of the Tea Party Nation rally last year.
Romney is done.
Tbone (Diary) Wednesday, August 24th at 9:45AM EDT (link)He has spent years and years and a fortune and he still has no real traction as Perry leapfrogging him proves.
Envisioning when all that is Left is the Right.
Great
gunslingr45 Wednesday, August 24th at 10:20AM EDT (link)we agree on one thing. Or hope rather.
Yup
kchand Wednesday, August 24th at 12:31PM EDT (link)Just like McLame was a ‘dead man walking’ at this point in 2007.
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The ‘N’ word is November! Nov 6, 2012 will be the next cleansing.
McLain didn't have a Pery to contend with.
Tbone (Diary) Wednesday, August 24th at 8:00PM EDT (link)Heck, if some one could have inspired Fred Thompson, he would have been elected President.
Envisioning when all that is Left is the Right.
More vetting needed
tailfins1959 Wednesday, August 24th at 9:49AM EDT (link)I want to make sure Rick Perry isn’t at risk for a “macaca moment” (a la ex-Senator Allen) before and if he becomes the nominee. Thanks to Red State, we can see it is Romney, not Perry that would be a GW Bush third term given the number of Bush retreads supporting Romney.
You have the right to quit Toxic People. (They’re contagious.) ~Dr. SunWolf
You Are Right On
carolynr Wednesday, August 24th at 11:29AM EDT (link)While the MSM continues to try to kill off Perry, it is becoming more and more obvious that Romney will fill his cabinet with ex-Bush appointees. Even though the MSM thinks we are too stupid and blind to see this…it comes in loud and clear every time I hear, Rove, Kristol, any of the Bushies and…even some of the Fox News commentators who seem to believe that Romney would be good for the stock market based solely on his Bain Capital experience. I don’t think so….Americans…are not buying what you are selling Fox News.
MSM is becoming more irrellavent..
lastresort Wednesday, August 24th at 1:55PM EDT (link)by the day. This time around we the people will listen to each other instead of allowing the biased media to think for us. I’m new to redstate and I like to talk to people who I can relate to on political ideas, this is where the vetting is taking place and I can see a groundswell of momentum building for Perry, I’m all in.
Still early
jim91010 (Diary) Wednesday, August 24th at 10:09AM EDT (link)At this point it is still a bit early to get excited about any candidate as the front runner. Based upon my limited knowledge of Perry, I like what I know about him. He does have executive experience in government which means he will not take 18 months to learn how to work in DC.
I know that we are beginning to hear that Perry is a RINO, I need to read and understand why that is being said.
If we don’t protect our rights today, we will not have any to protect tomorrow.
Lesser of Evils
takeitback Wednesday, August 24th at 10:14AM EDT (link)Any Republican candidate except Huntsman (RINO) is better than Obama and his Harvard trained hidden socialist agenda to destroy the Free Market System. However, that being said, the difference I see between Romney and Perry is that Romney has the proven skills to fix a broken economy while working with an 86% Democratic legislature. Perry on the other hand is in a Conservative state already has the skills to tell you how a Texan would make it better and he will remind America of that for 4 years, or maybe 8 years Y’all. Perry is lucky he has a Conservative legislature cause if it didn’t, all the young girls in Texas would be forced to take Gardacil to prevent papilomavirus. A major Perry Bonehead socialist wrong idea! I thought he was a conservative?
Are you ready for Perry to open the Dream Act flood gate at the national level? I thought he was conservative? Democrats love Perry for it! They call illegals in Texas undocumented workers. Oh? you mean they give’em a job too! The police never ask if they are illegal down in Texas, they are told to look the other way by the Perry Administration who does not like Arizona’s Law. I thought he was a conservative? Give em a low paying job and pay the children of these undocumented workers to go to college while real Americans wait. I thought he was a conservative?
Oh I just can’t wait for a Perry Presidency where they do things so much better in Texas.
OK
gunslingr45 Wednesday, August 24th at 10:23AM EDT (link)you need to read this because as I understand it, the shots had more to do with insurance not wanting to pay for them rather than him being a nanny.
http://peskytruth.wordpress.com/2011/07/19/rick-perrys-negatives/
Perry Information - excellent!
cbartlett Wednesday, August 24th at 4:51PM EDT (link)to gunslingr45: Thanks for posting that link to information on Perry. IT IS EXCELLENT! I hope every conservative voter in this country reads it and becomes educated about the things that the MSM and other liberals are going to fling out there about him in the next few months. I am a life-long Texas conservative – been voting Republican for over 35 years. Like many conservatives around here, I have a love-hate relationship with a Perry candidacy. He has been involved in a few controversial issues in this state that I worry will give a very liberal-biased MSM and Democrats lots and lots of ammunition to demonize him in the public’s eye. I agree with another posting on this site that said basically, most conservative Texans HAD to vote for Perry in the past because the alternatives were so awful, even though many times we might have preferred another more conservative, less “political” choice. I will say that compared to the current field, he IS a conservative and one trait that he has that I see very rarely in politicians is that he will admit when he is wrong. He has served in state politics for a lot of years – Agriculture Commissioner, Lt. Governor and became governor when Bush was elected to the White House. There is no way that someone who has run for statewide elected office and been in the public eye for this many years doesn’t have some dirt to dig up. I have friends that are very active Democrats that have been rubbing their hands together in anticipation for the opportunity to “expose” all of the crap they’ve been saving up. Please – PLEASE read this information and educate yourself so you can help dispel the liberal myths and lies they are going to put out there. Perry may not be the absolute best possible candidate, but right now, he may be the most electable. We CANNOT survive another 4 years of Obama!
“America will never be destroyed from the outside. If we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves.” Abraham Lincoln
Texas Economy
travis690 (Diary) Wednesday, August 24th at 10:58AM EDT (link)If the press wil not identify Rick Perry with Texas’ economic success over the past decade, that leaves them three options, all equally unthinkable for them to admit:
1. It was George W. Bush’s success, or “fault,” depending upon your perspective of Bush. But imagine these same lemmings now saying Bush was a success.
2. It was Barack Obama’s success. But this would leave two questions:
a. Why did it work only in Texas instead of nationwide?
b. Did all this success happen in just two years?
3. It’s the private-sector economy. But who with a statist-liberal viewpoint would be willing to say this? Those people believe everything is through the benevolence of our rulers.
I’m waiting for the media elite to choose their meme on this.
They've chosen to deny the existence of the Texas economy entirely.
acat (Diary) Wednesday, August 24th at 4:55PM EDT (link)That won’t work indefinitely, but ignoring it is probably, as you say, their best option.
Mew
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Here is yet another new poll
Scope (Diary) Wednesday, August 24th at 11:23AM EDT (link)Daily Caller/Conservative Home national presidential tracking poll.
Perry is leading in every category tracked in the poll. Yet another testament to Perry’s front runner status.
I remember so many of us here saying a while ago that the way to surely send Obama packing would be for conservatives to get behind someone early, and to gain a unity against Obama. It seems as though that may be happening across the nation, even if we have some protesters here. Perry still has at least 6 months to go, and he may screw up somehow, but I have my doubts about that happening, he is a well seasoned campaigner.
Short of someone coming out and revealing that one time he stunk up the bathroom, I doubt there are any big bad deep dark secrets to destroy him that are yet to be revealed. Oh I’m sure some will try, using a lie, and unfortunately that is now not only a liberal tactic.
Ace (of Spades, not in Texas) has a review of Gallup up also, Scope.
acat (Diary) Wednesday, August 24th at 4:57PM EDT (link)(http://ace.mu.nu/archives/320519.php)
Again, this is Ace of Spades, so .. not always safe for work, not usually politically correct, and with an abundance – in the comments – of salty language, but .. I think Ace makes some very good points here.
Mew
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So acat
Scope (Diary) Wednesday, August 24th at 5:44PM EDT (link)Someone who is an ideological voter isn’t going to necessarily support a non-ideological candidate, because they are only ideological voters. But for the non-ideological voters also won’t necessarily support an ideological candidate, unless he has a proven track record of being more than just an ideological candidate. You can’t pursuade someone to vote for you based on ideological ideas only, especially if the only thing you supported was the correct ideas, but it was a net neutral success. Obama had more ideological voters than non-ideological voters, and he has proven he is a failure to the non-ideological voters. He may keep the small portion of the ideological voters, because he might have a neutral win in Libya, which the non-ideological voters don’t care about. You have to have a winning two minute message in order to attract the ideological vters, or granny, as well as the non-ideological voters, who may or may not support someone who has success with both ideological positions, and proven non-ideological success, that are proven, and not just net neutrals. In all you have to be an ideological plus candidate, which includes support from the non-ideological voters. I think Perry is all that, and Romney isn’t really a RINO.
Did I get that right acat? LOL
Ideology only gets a candidate so far, Scope.
acat (Diary) Wednesday, August 24th at 6:05PM EDT (link)We use words like “executive experience” and “electability” and “charisma” to describe the non-ideological component. Ace lumps them together as “neutral goods”. To a lot of voters, that’s what they base their decisions on.
Had Obama faced a candidate with a solid ideology and some “neutral goods” in 2008, he would have lost .
McCain didn’t really have either – what could he point to and say “I did this”, and his ideology kept provably changing… which led to his loss. (How good was your Gov. Gilmore? Better than McCain?)
Obama is sunk, because even after four years, he has only ideology to run on. Polling shows this, and I predict he will retire rather than run. Even a “neutral good” like a win in Libya won’t help with his ideologically anti-war supporters, and won’t help *enough* with non-ideological voters.
Perry has both ideology – not rock solid, but it’s evolved to something sufficiently good – and “neutral goods” – a decades-long record of executive experience, fiscal responsibility, and success in managing a big State through good times and bad.
That’s my take-away from it. I *think* you said something similar, but .. I’m not going to diagram your sentences to prove it.
Mew
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acat- You do know that I was
Scope (Diary) Wednesday, August 24th at 8:00PM EDT (link)trying to inject a little humor, while not trying to wander far away from reality. I wasn’t trying to knock your suggestion to read the article, nor Ace’s take on things. I just had to keep control of my mind, with ideological vs non-ideological with his post. Yes, in the end I mostly agree with what he said, though not with his sentiment that Romney is really not a RINO. Trying to portray a message, and not a bad one at that, I think many were left with, now wait a minute, was that about the ideological voter, or the non-ideological candidate, or vice versa. It was a little confusing, especially when he suggests that the candidate has to have a winning two minute speech, if they are going to succeed. Maybe that’s Ace’s style of posting. I don’t know because I don’t read there, unless someone links to his articles. In all it was a good post, albeit a confusing one for the average reader and/or voter.
Perry
carolynr Wednesday, August 24th at 11:24AM EDT (link)Good Morning everyone…did you know that the Washington Monument has a crack in it? Is there a message there? Perhaps with all the lies Obama has told…the monument finally cracked.
Onto Perry. I am a blogger on the major sites. Oh my…has this guy been put through the wringer. Most of it seems to come from untruths and opinions. For instance…the HPV vaccine has an “opt-out” in it…and unlike our POTUS…he had the humility to state that he had gotten too far ahead in the parade. Refreshing. That says that he is willing to listen to people.
Perry is easy to understand and he personifies the American Dream because he has lived it. That makes it possible. It’s one thing to spout off about “Hope and Change” it is another to have demonstrated it.
Last night on Cavuto, I noticed that even though Jeb Bush would not endorse a candidate…his first positive remarks were about Romney. This does two things for Perry. It shows the electorate that Bush and Perry are not linked at the hip and also that Perry is not an “old guard Republican”. People, whether they are a member of the TPM or not have grown very, very tired of BOTH parties and their lies, i.e. their approval rating.
The more I hear of Perry, the more I investigate…the more I find that we have ourselves another Reagan who holds the same philosophy as Reagan…and that should pull over the Dems…the Indies and even the Republican Base.
Romney…as I have said before…OBAMA WITH AN R BEHIND HIS NAME…Big government, big spender..look at his record in MA.
Jeb Bush - What a joke
izoneguy (Diary) Wednesday, August 24th at 11:37AM EDT (link)Jeb Bush warns 2012ers on hitting Obama
Those who had once simpered: “I don’t want to destroy the rich, I only want to seize a little of their surplus to help the poor, just a little, they’ll never miss it!” – then, later, had snapped: “The tycoons can stand being squeezed; they’ve amassed enough to last them for three generations” – then, later, had yelled: “Why should the people suffer while businessmen have reserves to last a year?” – now were screaming: “Why should we starve while some people have reserves to last a week?” – Atlas Shrugged
You sure that that wasn't just Jeb Bush's body
Scope (Diary) Wednesday, August 24th at 5:53PM EDT (link)with McCain’s voice speaking? Maybe he still thinks that the liberals will play by the rules, nicely, and with fairness. Not saying he is W at all, but sounds like the same advice Bush got and then refused to defend himself against BDS, when it clearly would have helped him. Taking the high road isn’t always the correct path to travel. Jeb seems to be saying that he never learned that lesson. Not tring to be mean but, those born with a silver spoon don’t usually think their hot air is just that.
"W" Reincarnate?
priker Wednesday, August 24th at 11:35AM EDT (link)Remember back when another Texas gov. was thrust upon us from nowhere? Cast as a “compassionate conservative”, he sucked us in. And look how he turned out: Conservative in name only! Ask the border watchers, the neo-con warmongers, the fiscal conservatives. Be careful of wolves in sheep’s clothing. We know nothing of this(Perry) former Democrat, but that fact alone scares the hell out of this TP member.
You should have a few part articles before you put you foot on your mouth.
gekster (Diary) Wednesday, August 24th at 11:48AM EDT (link)Unless a gay bimbo from Australia comes out and says she had an affair with Perry, everything has been covered.
You should inform yourself before you spout off.
They say Republicans are for the rich, Democrats are for the poor.
If they need more voters,
then they have to make more of who they are for.
We are there in the various Tea Party groups, leaderless, but not rudderless.
We steer always toward the Constitutional principles this nation was founded upon.
Erick Brockway
I’ve gone from
“Hope and Change” to
“Hopeless and Changeless”
oops: "past" articles.
gekster (Diary) Wednesday, August 24th at 11:49AM EDT (link)dang fat fingers.
They say Republicans are for the rich, Democrats are for the poor.
If they need more voters,
then they have to make more of who they are for.
We are there in the various Tea Party groups, leaderless, but not rudderless.
We steer always toward the Constitutional principles this nation was founded upon.
Erick Brockway
I’ve gone from
“Hope and Change” to
“Hopeless and Changeless”
The Tea Party should embrace Perry
lastresort Wednesday, August 24th at 2:07PM EDT (link)what else are they looking for ?, any candidate that can stir the pot like Perry has can’t be all bad. I think Perry is as fed up as the rest of us and just looking at the field of enimies on the left and right should tell you Perry is his own man with a good record ( if not taken out of context) to boot. I also read that he is not too cozy with the Bush boys, in other words, give the man a chance.
Classic Ronulan!
Scope (Diary) Wednesday, August 24th at 5:55PM EDT (link)You know them by their neoncon warmonger charges.
snooze fest
lepelerin Wednesday, August 24th at 11:44AM EDT (link)I’m afraid this is going to be a snooze fest for me. I was hoping someone llike Chris Christie who is a good campaigner like Obama. Well, Perry might be in the same league as Romney. I predict there will be no excitment from the electorate with a Perry nomination. Obama could cruise to victory if the independants stay home.
Perry is causing a stir already
lastresort Wednesday, August 24th at 2:13PM EDT (link)with him in for less than 2 weeks you can see the jackles already pouncing. This is going to be a campaign of personal destruction that I believe Perry will handle just fine.
I you snooze you lose, there is plenty of excitement already and independents will feel it soon enought.
The same people who don't want Palin to run
usdebateboard Wednesday, August 24th at 1:09PM EDT (link)won’t want her on the stump for another candidate or the nominee, and will run away and hide from her endorsement. The Sunday morning talkies will demand GOP candidates refudiate Palin, and they will squirm and or oblige them.
Come on? Who’s kidding whom? “Kingmager” is cop-out.
So, do you still feel like he's not the true front-runner?
bloggb Friday, September 9th at 3:03AM EDT (link)He didn’t screw anything up, no gaffs, no ridiculous statements – the only thing he missed imo – was an explanation for a solution to SS, which HC offered – (brilliant) – the Chilean solution. Privitization with personal retirement accounts. I’m sure that Rick will have his equivalent answer in the next debate. (Unless of course, someone finds a dead body somewhere on his estate before then).