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You Perry Fans Really Want to Help Him? Get Him Better Videos

I'm not even talking Megan Fox, Explosions, and Giant Robots, but that'd be awesome too!

Today we’ve got a new video from the Rick Perry campaign folks. It hits Mitt Romney pretty hard for his environmental record. The message is sound. But the delivery… well… just watch it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nUHaMSxLYc8&

I think the Perry campaign was right to snatch up Pawlenty’s video genius for their earlier video. I hope we see more soon from him. Perry’s gubernatorial campaign had good videos too as I recall.

But whoever they’ve got doing these web videos now needs some help. Dude, it’s called Final Cut. It’s not that expensive.

Nowadays the line between TV ads and web video is blurred. Every web video the campaigns put out that has any heft gets TV play on CNN and Fox. Videos get shared all day all over Facebook and Twitter. That means you need a higher level of quality when it comes to production values and editing. This is way too slow and plodding.

There are Congressional campaigns that had better videos than this last year. The message is pretty good, but that definitely gets lost in the cheese factor. If Perry wants to have an impact on this, he’s got to put out better stuff.

I get asked all the time by the supporters of various campaigns what they can do. For Perry? Improve his videos. Geez.

COMMENTS

  • mikej75

    It’s also the timeliness of Perry’s response to attacks by the media and other candidates. It takes Perry days to respond. He should have a spokesman, a press release and a blog post out there within an hour. And other media, such as a tolerable video, should follow within 12 hours.

    Perry has pretty good defenses to the criticisms of him, but he waits too long to respond.

  • Aaron Gardner

    Too bad really because the message was perfect.

  • tailfins1959

    I keep getting this nagging suspicion that Perry is in over his head. I would LOVE to see evidence to the contrary and his fundraising gives hope. With both Perry and Cain time is short. The window to get up to speed is at most 60 days.

  • florajo

    If I needed gloss and pristine process I’d probably go with Mitt. If I wanted perfectly shifting positions and 24-hour response, I’d go with Mitt.

    This is who Rick Perry is. At some point, some slick campaign team will tighten things up a couple notches. I guess that will be better (or not).

  • ribeye

    Al Gore’s former campaign chairman in Texas is calling out Mitt Romney on this?

    And don’t give me that nonsense that Al Gore wasn’t a rabid environmental extremist in the 80′s. Gore was the first Congressman to hold hearing on his global warming nonsense in the early 80′s. Gore’s entire persona was kooky environmental ideas from the beginning of his career.

    Perry must have really believed in Al Gore’s message on the environment to be his campaign chairman.

    Romney being opposed to an old coal power plant is a pretty mainstream view. Isn’t that why we as conservatives are pushing nuclear power?

  • Jim Tomasik

    Geez, cut him some slack.

  • notpropagandized

    It’s tough to let go of the idea of RickPerry being our nominee and president. Real tough. OK, the vid was underwhelming. But he could speak better debating KayBaileyHutchison a little over a year ago. It wasn’t great, but sufficient. There’s plenty good explanation of the pragmatics for kids of illegals getting instate tuition while demonstrating his VERY aggressive border control. But he couldn’t even describe the incredible impracticality of building a fence along the entire stretch of the RioGrandeRiver siding ranches, lakes, water for cattle, etc. That fence that people outside Texas imagine in their minds won’t ever be built. There’s no question that Perry would be the best president, but if he can’t articulate that then what’s to debate? Pardon the pun.

    Same with HermanCain. Huge enthusiasm for this incredibly wonderful, loveable man, but now after a whole year we discover he’s a Romney-ite. UN-BELIEVABLE! Tough to let go.

    So, Newt? You still there? About those wives and affairs ….

  • retire05

    Watched the video on another site (not YouTube) and saw none of the problems.

    If you are looking for a captain for the college debate team, vote Mitt,
    If you are looking for high quality movie shorts, vote Mitt.

    If you want a job, lower taxes, less government intrusion, regulations that doesn’t choke businesses wanting to expand and provide jobs, vote Rick.

  • Aaron Gardner

    But hey, why tell the truth about something when you can just make up salacious lies?

  • anxious4change

    where it was very well received. I personally don’t have a negative opinion about the ad. Well, I do — but it’s about Romney, not Perry.

  • retire05

    Perry, as reported by the left leaning Austin American-Stateman, was NEVER Gore’s Texas campaign manager. Gore did not have a Texas campaign manager but did have two Texas Dems spearheading a support group for Gore as most Texas D’s were supporting Dukakis; Gib Lewis and Bill Hobby.

    Now, go back to the DailyPaul and report that there are those of us who are going to dispel the lies his followers are pushing.

  • retire05

    and not a man who has the ability to implement Texas policies that create jobs and keep taxes within control?

    Perry is doing what Perry does best; taking it directly to the people. And getting $17 million in campaign donations in just 49 days, to boot.

  • retire05

    Kay Bailey Hutchison and Bill White both made the same mistake.

  • cajunchosid770

    Romney has done more flip flops over the year then Shamu @ Sea World. It is really appalling to see him. He reminds me of a used car salesman. Promising and saying all kinds of things but when you drive off the lot with that car you get a lemon. Romney is chosen will be the lemon.

    How does Romney take Perry to task over Perry backing Gore in 1988 when we have Romney on video stating in 1994 that he ws an independent during the Reagan/Bush years and that he does not want to go back to the those years?

    Backing a candidate does not mean you accept them 100%,

    Romney is such a sleaze bag.

  • notpropagandized

    Get real. Everyone thought Gore was conservativ-ish back then and no one was aware YET that socialist had pretty much taken over the Dems. Everyone was clueless and when BerlinWall fell, no one recognized that the US became the socialist leader of the world. Now that people are wising up, they’re looking back at Texas conservative Democrat Perry playing the party line? Give me a break. You’d think that conservatives would line up to praise him for getting the hell out. But that’s a bit too logical, isn’t it?

  • http://www.google.com/profiles/david.dlpe daviddlpe

    Your suspicions are correct, tailfins. What you saw in the debate, and in his attack ads like this one – this is Rick Perry. I’ve been watching him for 10 years, and I’m telling anyone who will listen…
    If Romney and Obama are carbon copies on the environment, then Perry and Obama are carbon copies on cronyism, rhetoric and cheap shots.
    Did you notice how much dirtier the primary became after Perry got in? That is all Perry has to offer. Before Perry got in, the primary was, a few swipes between Bachmann and Pawlenty aside, about who was best suited to beat Obama. Now, it is about which one is most like Obama.
    The problems Texas had when Perry took office are still problems – most especially immigration and property taxes – despite his high rhetoric to fix these things. Three terms, no results. But Perry and his friends and donors are much more wealthy.
    For the record, I am not for Romney, either. I would just rather see a real conservative win in 2012, like Cain, Bachmann or even Newt. Any of those is better than Perry or Romney, but Perry would be the worst.
    Perry is benefitting from the Texas jobs record, which he did very little to create. Perry is like Clinton, in that he is getting credit for an economy he actually inherited. Oh, he did use taxpayer dollars to bribe companies to come here, for which he got generous donations, for which he rewarded donors with big lucrative government contracts.
    I don’t think a Perry presidency would bode well for the Republican party in 2014, 2016 and beyond…

  • http://www.mosov.org MoSov

    …with it. Straight to the point. Simple. Direct. I suspect intentionally not fancy. BTW, I’m not necessarily a Perry supporter…yet at least.

  • ribeye

    This would be a pretty easy thing to clear up, but Perry has never denied his role. He played a prominent part as an elected official in Gore’s campaign operation in Texas and endorsed him for President. That’s undisputed.

    http://www.time.com/time/nation/article/0,8599,2081596,00.html

  • beach91

    for the video, retire05? Would like to view it there.

  • JSobieski

    It was a significant weakness in the W administrations.

  • tailfins1959

    His campaign finances show that Perry know how to handle money. It’s actually a point in his favor.

  • Aaron Gardner
  • snowshooze

    But I would put a Narrator in there to guide thins along a bit…
    It could use polish, but it is not a total loss.

  • notpropagandized

    I and a small majority are aware of Perry’s manifold abilities to deliver exactly what we want and need. But beyond that small majority, everyone else is unaware. That’s why communications are so critical. How is Perry going to take it to the people if he cannot communicate with the people? Maybe it’ll change. Standing on your feet and delivering a strong cogent message in a hostile debate environment is not an easy thing to to for the untrained and unpracticed. It’s tough to do even if you are trained and practiced.

    Perry is the best, but if no one out there can discover that is the case, then what’s it worth? Unfair? Maybe, but leadership has always involved a bundle of skills that strong or weak in combination appeal to us, the throngs.

    Bush was a good leader, but had some communications difficulties as well and the truth is that conservtives don’t like being left twisting in the wind by a leader that won’t articulate and sell his/her vision. And you can bet that the thug Dems will exploit that failing. They destroyed Bush so effectively that zerO was elected and we’re now on an existential precipice.

  • reggie182

    Why Rick Perry?

    What exactly has been transformative about his decade tenure as Governor of Texas? The state has had a pro-business tax and regulatory climate for many years, so I’m trying to decipher how it’s economic successes can be attributed to it’s current Governor. I’m not saying he’s been a bad governor, though he’s tried to implement some appallingly bad ideas like the Trans Texas Corridor (thankfully stopped primarily due in part to the outcry of rural Texans), what I’m asking for is what can you say about him aside from the fact that he merely preserved the status quo?

  • anxious4change

    http://www.therightscoop.com/new-perry-ad-romney-obama-carbon-copies/

  • http://www.google.com/profiles/david.dlpe daviddlpe

    If it is not true that Perry was Gore’s TX campaign chair, then why did Perry claim that it was his service to Gore which caused him to switch parties?
    Of course, this too is a lie. Perry was approached by Karl Rove and David Weeks to run for statewide office – tx ag commissioner – and Texas is a red state. To understand Rick Perry, you must understand that above all else, he is a political creature. He ran as a democrat when the district was democrat, and he became republican because the state is republican. He is nothing close to Ronald Reagan, who had a strong moral core and foundation, and chose the party that best represented him, and worked to make the party great.
    Too many republicans are making the same mistake we made in Texas – buying his rhetoric before looking at what he does.
    The glimpses we have seen of Perry’s moral core are that people who want immigration laws enforced are heartless – that was not a planned statement; that is who he is. We have also seen that he has no moral qualms about playing the political game of capital cronyism.
    Perry is to republicans as Obama is to democrats, with one big exception: Obama speaks his leftist ideals from the heart. Perry is just telling you what you want to hear. If Perry becomes president, look for Michelle Malkin to write a follow-up to Culture of Corruption. Perry is just the other side of the same, sorry coin.

  • aesthete

    Sorry, but the Bush administration did a pretty good job of losing the public’s respect (as well as the respect of many conservatives) all on its own.

  • tailfins1959

    If you order states for the MEDIAN unemployment rate, Texas shows up in the bottom half at 8.5%. You can argue that job creation outstripped the hype-generated in-migration and that may be valid. Anyone who cites “a low unemployment rate” as a reason to vote for Perry immediate loses my attention. I also don’t like how Romney ignored the housing shortage in Massachusetts which is caused by environmentalists. All the candidates have serious flaws, but all are a quantum leap better than Barack Hussein Obama.

  • Jim Tomasik

    Do you know? Now that guy knows how to spend some money!

  • Change Jar Conservative

    Today in his foreign policy, he hits some high notes about this being an “American Century.”

    Why am I putting this in a Perry article?

    Because Romney now has an economic plan and a specific foreign policy plan.

    If Perry wants back in, he needs SPECIFICS.

  • Jim Tomasik

    It looks like Mittens wants to be more like him.

    Does this we will see a three way love fest in the next debate?

  • http://whattoreadtoday.blogspot.com/ Paula

    with my son’s 8th grade National History Day project which was made on an Apple Computer at a cost of $0.00. Sure, the documentary made it to the Nationals, but their group got their butt’s kicked at Nationals by teams who had access to actual studios to record their audio/video. Perry should track down those kids with the winning projects. They’ll be graduating from high school this year and may be looking for work.

    Recall, also, that a previous Perry video had a similar format and quality with pages from Romney’s book and an audio of Romney reading it. I thought at the time it was surely made by some guy in his underwear munching Doritos in his parents’ basement. Knowing how much money this guy reportedly has, this makes NO sense, unless he’s running some kind of extreme austerity ticket. But if that’s the plan, he should let people know.

  • damianvincent

    thats even worse it’s just a coal plant, romney said the coal plant was killing people, we have the worlds largest reserves of coal, we should be using them with clean coal tech. Romney’s a no go. Guy’s never really been much of a Republican, first thing he did in Mass was raise taxes half a billion dollars, his instinct was to raise taxes, not cut spending. Romney’s supported gun control, amnesty, abortion, this is a guy who said he would do more for gay rights than Ted Kennedy, and then advocated for gay scoutmasters in the Boy Scouts. How can anyone be supporting someone who’s flopped on some many Republican tenets.

  • porkandcheese

    Honestly, I haven’t liked Pawlenty’s all that much, either, since they failed in accomplishing the most important task of selling the candidate. In Pawlenty’s “Giant Asteroid About To Hit the Earth” ad, most of the footage of him was from behind, the Manhattan skyline made no sense and he actually yawned at the ad. It was also the wrong approach for a “sane establishment Republican who is not Romney” to try to brand himself as a conservative rock star. It was just bad.

    Perry’s first ad was awesome. But he is no longer introducing himself to voters. Now he is trying to clear up misinformation and keep the rhetoric fact-based in the midst of a bunch of mud-slinging. Romney tries to deflect from his lies in debates by calling Perry a dumb cowboy. It’s easy to do with the relentless attacks on GWB still fresh in the public mind. So, Perry is using text to unite Romney and Obama in the public’s mind. “Words matter” was an effective line of attack from Hillary against Obama.

    Much of this nitpicking with ads seems more like nervousness from the GOP establishment at Romney getting too bloodied in the primaries. When Stewart on The Daily Show did the same thing a few days ago, it went instantly viral. It absolutely holds people’s attention, because it makes them feel clever. I’ve worked in film, and my husband has directs commercials. I showed him the Perry ad this morning, and he liked it. It was linked at The Hill and The New Hampshire Journal and retweeted extensively.

  • ribeye

    Sorry, a random blog I’ve never heard of saying that Rick Perry was not Al Gore’s campaign chairman does not mean the issue is settled. Is Time magazine wrong (along with countless other news outlets on Perry’s role with Gore’s campaign)? If so, why hasn’t the Perry campaign demanded a retraction from Time? Could it be that he knows they are true? Please show me one quote where Perry has said on the record he was not a prominent member of Gore’s Presidential campaign in Texas. Perry has himself admitted to being a major part of his Texas operation.

    At the end of the day, the title of “chairman” is not the issue. Who cares what his title was? He was a prominent member of Gore’s campaign operation in Texas and endorsed him for President. therefore, he must have shared some of Gore’s nutty environmental ideas OR he endorsed and worked for a candidate he knew nothing about. Either choice doesn’t speak highly of Perry, and definitely disqualifies him from throwing stones at Mitt for being against an old coal power plant as fringe.

  • http://www.google.com/profiles/david.dlpe daviddlpe

    They did not make a mistake – they are just more liberal than Perry’s rhetoric. Perry has never had to face a true, well-funded challenge from a real conservative. The closest we ever came was Debra Medina, whose campaign got derailed after a question by Glenn Beck about the 9-11 truthers. Texas conservatives have been seeking an alternative to Rick Perry since his first full term. In 2006, he won the election with only 39% of the vote, running against 3 other liberals. We have been stuck with Perry because nothing better has been offered. Between a crooked republican and a devout liberal, I will hold my nose and vote for the crooked republican. But I have been holding my nose for 10 years. It is time for a true conservative leader we can actually believe in. At this point, that is either Cain or Bachmann, not Romney, and most certainly not Perry.

  • porkandcheese

    Al Gore was not promoting global warming at the time, and Texas was not red. Three strikes and you’re out, Ronulan. Call us when the mothership lands.

  • damianvincent

    so the fact that Romney’s flopped on every issue of importance to Republicans, and is experiencing an election year conversion means nothing to you, just gonna take his word then, not caring what his record shows?

    Not me, records speak louder than words.

    1, 2 changes, understandable, you flop on everything and it’s clear the only talent you posses is raw ambition. No thanks.

  • Aaron Gardner

    Because I can read.

    Also, I’d say Perry is closer to Reagan on immigration that any of the “deport them all” crowd would like to admit, lest they have to admit to their distorting of history and facts

    .

  • notpropagandized

    He listened to others and changed course instead of ramming his ideas down collective throats
    (eg O’care, Stimulus, CapTrade, CardCk, EPA, ApologyTour, ad nauseum)

    He does what very few politicians do and stays the hell out of the way to let the market respond to the people.

    Any other questions?

  • porkandcheese

    But he made it even more so with tort reform, a balanced budget and a $6 billion rainy day fund. Plus, he accommodated a population boom, some of whom were unlawful presences in the US. He has been an excellent governor for a decade.

  • retire05

    Have you ever had a chance to talk to Rick Perry in person? He will stand there and answer your questions until you are competely satisfied.

    You see, the debate thing is the same mistake KBH and Bill White made. They thought if they could shine in a debate, they would win. But Perry campaigns like an old styled politician. He gets in with the people, shakes hands, answers questions, kisses babies and talks military with veterans.

    Tony Sanchez made the same mistake. Sanchez had the press in Texas (which is basically far left) on his side. He spent three times as much as Perry in campaign ads, gave interviews to any reporter that would listen and thought he had it in the bag.

    Perry did none of those things. He took his campaign to all 256 counties in Texas, standing at the front of a Wal-Mart or on the back of a pick-up, if that was all he had. Sanchez outspent Perry 3 to 1, Perry won the election. When Kay Bailey got the support of Karen Hughes, Karl Rove, and George and Barbara Bush, KBH just knew she would be the next governor of Texas. She was wrong.

    Perhaps we should ask why Romney and Cain, both are going after Perry when they should be going after each other. Why attack the #3 guy when the #1 and #2 guys should be going after each other? I suspect a quid pro quo between Cain and Romney or they understand that Perry campaigns as a closer.

    Perry is wise to hold his campaign donations close to the vest. The hard campaigning will come in the next couple of months as Iowa nears.

  • gekster

    Just so that you don’t have to muddle the facts and post half thuths, just copy and paste this and save yourself some time.

    I hate Perry :) I hate Perry :) I hate Perry :) I hate Perry :)
    I hate Perry :) I hate Perry :) I hate Perry :) I hate Perry :)
    I hate Perry :) I hate Perry :) I hate Perry :) I hate Perry :)
    I hate Perry :) I hate Perry :) I hate Perry :) I hate Perry :)
    I hate Perry :) I hate Perry :) I hate Perry :) I hate Perry :)

    Now instead of trying to rip Perry, which you are failing at, post something positive about your favorite candidate.

    Don’t bother responding, gotta go work on my truck.

  • porkandcheese

    Sounds like Huntsman’s speech at the Faith and Freedom Forum. The emphasis on foreign policy and trade sounds like he has noticed his lead is slipping in NH.

    http://www.wnyc.org/articles/its-free-country/2011/jun/21/huntsman-invokes-american-century-presidential-announcement/

    Huntsman Invokes ‘American Century’ at Presidential Announcement
    Tuesday, June 21, 2011 By Stephen Reader

  • Aaron Gardner

    You might want to look into who R.G. Ratcliffe is before you beclown yourself further.

    As for this:

    herefore, he must have shared some of Gore?s nutty environmental ideas OR he endorsed and worked for a candidate he knew nothing about

    This is what is called a non sequitur. At the time Al Gore was considered the conservative alternative to Jesse Jackson.

  • damianvincent

    Texas Debt Levels Low, Credit Rating Upgraded.
    Don?t mess with Texas, but do invest with Texas. Or at least Standard & Poor?s (S&P) recent upgrade would indicate. It has raised Texas? credit ratings to AA+ from AA.

    Texas? appropriation debt also took a step up from AA to AA-, and received the highest possible short-term debt ratings for tax and revenue anticipation notes (TRANs).

    Government debt is extremely low in Texas. In fact, the “bad” kind of government debt?non-self-supporting debt– has decreased by 16% (from $3.4 to $2.85 billion) in Texas over the past ten years.

    Yes, you read that right: “bad” government debt in Texas has decreased substantially over the past decade.

    Gov. Perry is the only governor since World War II to sign budgets that reduce general revenue spending from the previous biennium

    Just a couple things

  • powertothepeople

    who even after being corrected would still be morons with no intent of changing their preconceived notions and would still be against him.

    Plus he just does not give a rats ass about you or the stupidity you dwell in.

    Does that clear everything up for you?

  • ribeye

    Is that how you brush off any criticism of Perry, that it must be a Ron Paul plant? And here I thought Ron Paul’s little cult were the paranoid ones?

    And the title “campaign chairman “is a silly thing to get hung up on, what matters is Perry was an elected Democrat official that was spearheading Gore’s Presidential campaign in Texas. Many if not most campaign structures call such a person a “campaign chairman”, what Al Gore’s people called it is immaterial. Some campaigns use the title Political Director instead of Campaign Manager. What matters is, Perry played a very prominent role that in most campaigns would be labeled as a campaign chairman.

    If Perry feels that characterization is completely false, him and his campaign have yet to correct that assertion.

  • reggie182

    No. Just the first one that you didn’t answer. What has HE DONE.

  • retire05

    In 2004, when the Texas legislature, driven by the Democrats, tried to impose a state income tax, Perry took them on like a pit bull. It failed. When the Texas legislature passed a law that would allow sales taxes charged on purchases from out of state internet sites like Amazon, it did not pass with a super majority, and Perry vetoed it.

    He lowered taxes on homes, and by supporting and getting the legislation, eliminated home (ad valorum) taxes for any veteran with 100% military related disabilities.

    Perry also pushed for the Sonigram bill that requires any woman seeking an abortion in Texas to have a sonigram at least 24 hours prior to the abortion. That legislation is currently being challenged by out of state abortion clinics and is on hold by the court.

    Want more?

  • porkandcheese

    The only reason they quit pushing that lie so hard was because Perry hit back by releasing a letter from Paul to Reagan blaming him for his leaving the GOP to join the LP and run against him.

  • porkandcheese

    NT

  • JSobieski

    I am a Perry supporter. I am very disappointed in Cain. However, there is no reason to twist ourselves into pretzels regarding Perry’s weaknesses.

    The inability to persuade in situations that are not face to face matters when it comes to Presidency of the US.

    He needs to get better.

  • porkandcheese

    He specializes in robots and explosions, and he’s cheaper than Michael Bay.

  • Change Jar Conservative

    At least Romney has a group of specific positions that we can beat him up over after he stops doing them in 2 years. There is a fire to hold his feet to.

    Perry has good instincts, but I’m a bit worried about him getting overwhelmed in DC if he doesn’t go in with a specific agenda.

    I also don’t trust “compassionate conservatives” who don’t have specific plans.

    All I’m asking for here is a plan.

  • retire05

    With the most important area of the world being the Middle East (and the Arab spring is about to turn into the Arab storm) Perry has been light years ahead of Romney.

    Did Romney mention Israel in his first campaign speech? Has Romney ever been honored by Israel for his friendship, and cooperation, with Israel? When the friends of Obama were funding the “flotillas”, did the Israelis appeal to Romney for help, or to Perry?

    How does the Romeny of today’s ecomonic and foreign policy plans match to the Romney of 2003, or 2006, or even 2008? Romney’s plans pretty much say who is he trying to appeal to depending on what day of the week it is.

  • lepelerin

    Still better then “I’m not a witch” ad!

  • JSobieski

    Getting a level or two deeper is necessary to show both competence on Perry’s part, as well as the silliness of the inflexibly doctrinaire, such as Bachmann.

    People are tired of Obama spouting left wing cliches. If our guy just says right wing cliches, we won’t have a roadmap for the future or the public support for getting anything important done.

  • carolynr

    Was it because it was on wide screen? I mean…did you listen to the content…of look at the aesthetics? Do you spend most of your time watching American Idol? The message is good and it is hard hitting. You want Romney…well then we all pay higher electric bills. We can always invest in Solyndra.

    Heads Up…want some news..well…because of this Cap and Trade BS…Europe now wants to charge American airline carriers a “carbon tax” when flying into Europe. They are not interested in getting rid of the supposed “carbon”…they just want a slush fund. WHEN ARE SOME OF YOU GOING TO WAKE UP TO THE FACT THAT YOU ARE BEING SCAMMED. Question for you environmental geeks…how many earthquakes have we had in earth’s history? How much carbon to they emit? How come we’re all still alive?

    Perry gave you two big things to look at with Romney’s lies during the debates…U Tube picked it up but not the MSM. So, now he has a video using Romney’s words and written statements…AND IT’S NOT GOOD ENOUGH! Let’s get Hollywood involved…so we can believe Perry…Screw the Content…let’s look at how well it is presented…after all…facts mean nothing…right????

  • reggie182

    With respect to spending, overall it appears to me to be….well….meh

    http://www.cato-at-liberty.org/rick-perrys-spending-record/

    As for debt, that seems to be in dispute as well:

    http://www.star-telegram.com/2011/07/12/3217429/texas-debt-growing-at-faster-rate.html

  • retire05

    Medina’s campaign imploded when she went on Alex Jones’ show, not once, but twice. I know for a fact that her campaing manager told her not to go on that show again and she thought she knew better. She didn’t. Medina also claimed she had TEA Party support, only for the Austin, Woodlands, and Houston Tea Parties to come out and denounce that claim.

    Median is a flake. She now has monthly meetings at her house pushing Agenda 21, 9-11 trutherism and Alex Jones.

  • ribeye

    And Ron Paul does deserve criticism for when he left the GOP to run as a Libertarian, but that hardly means Perry’s role with Gore was a lie.

    Again, prominent publications have repeatedly reported Perry was Gore’s campaign chairman in Texas. If they are completely false, why hasn’t the Perry campaign called for a retraction? It’s pretty simple to send a letter to the editor or send out a press release from the campaign calling it all a fabrication.

    Don’t you think if Time magazine wrote a story that Herman Cain was Bill Clinton’s campaign chairman in Georgia and it was completely false it would take all of 15 minutes before there was a letter to the editor demanding a retraction and a press release from the campaign saying it was a fabrication? Of course.

  • carolynr

    BTW…I think he does a whole lot better than GWB…and also…take away Barry’s teleprompter…and what do you get.

    I said a while back that America elects according to the Hollywood Production…not the evidence, not the plans…none of that…just how well they look. No wonder we will be a third world country…we took our eyes off the ball and watched the pitcher.

  • joayn

    being pushed here by Romneybots, I suspect. Evidently, this is Romney’s new attack against Perry.

    Challenging Perry to explain his support of Algore 23 years ago is supposed to be relevant according to Mittens I-never-met-a-position-I-didn’t-like Romney.

  • http://www.whyromney.com Ryan Larsen

    The message is far from perfect. Conservatives believe in breathing clean air. It’s the Democrats who like to claim that we don’t. So attacking Romney for a plan which had nothing to do with global warming but was intended to cut air pollution in MA (which is the third most densely populated state in the union) is just another smear in the litany of smears catapulted by Romney’s critics.

  • Kyle-MI

    The only reason TX doesn’t have an even better unemployment rate is because its population is increasing. TX under Perry is creating jobs at a breakneck speed. People are moving to TX because that is where the jobs are and that is what is keeping the TX unemployment rate up.

  • JSobieski

    What evidence are you putting forth?

    Was Perry a more conservative governor than W? You don’t provide any evidence of any results.

    The comparison to President Obama is setting a low standard. Nobody is arguing that Obama is better than Perry. I believe Perry is better than Romney.

    What I am asking for is evidence that Perry will turn out better than W did. You have to admit that on the communications front, the similarities are disturbing.

    Results as a chief executive are often a factor of communication skills. Remember that great W push for SS reform? Well neither do I!

  • porkandcheese

    Though there are none so blind as those who will not see.

    “Perry, as reported by the left leaning Austin American-Stateman, was NEVER Gore?s Texas campaign manager. Gore did not have a Texas campaign manager but did have two Texas Dems spearheading a support group for Gore as most Texas D?s were supporting Dukakis; Gib Lewis and Bill Hobby.”

  • ribeye

    He doesn’t have the time to correct major publications about a significant issue that’s easily verifiable because they’re all “morons”. It couldn’t be because they’re “gulp” actually true?

    I’m amazed people keep arguing about this point. Perry’s response to this have never been “I wasn’t part of Al Gores Presidential campaign” it was “My views on Gore have changed” Not even Perry is trying to argue this point that he wasn’t a prominent part of his campaign because he knows it’s true.

    But keep spinning, it must be painful though to look at the latest polls.

  • reggie182

    He wasn’t perfect. The amnesty he signed was probably the worst mistake of his Presidency.

    The problem thirty years ago was also entirely different than it is today. At that time there were three million illegals.

    Now we are looking at perhaps twenty million illegals.

  • porkandcheese

    +5

  • joayn

    Should I denounce myself?

  • ribeye

    Obviously Gore’s Presidential “campaign manager” would not be an elected official down in Texas that had a full time job. What is being asserted is Perry was the campaign chairman in Tx.

    http://www.time.com/time/nation/article/0,8599,2081596-2,00.html

    If this account is wrong, why has the campaign let it stand?

  • Aaron Gardner

    nt

  • porkandcheese

    They need to work like everyone else. What good did Demon Sheep, Not a Witch and Easy Rider do their candidates? Nada, zilcho, zip.

  • retire05

    Perry’s role in the Gore campaign was no more important than the other 26 Texas D’s, that you can’t name, played. Gib Lewis and Bill Hobby were the spearheads.

  • damianvincent

    Perry’s balanced 6 budgets, while cutting taxes. It’s not always easy, tough calls had to be made to cut spending at times. Perry’s got a good record on spending. What we need is someone who will make the tough calls to cut spending.

    There are multiple types of debt, self sustaining, and non self sustaining. The difference is, say Texas needs a road, but doesn’t want to hike taxes to pay for it, they take out a loan, tie it’s repayment back to the tolls collected from that road. That’s sustaining debt, and not a drag on the economy, non self sustaining debt is debt that funds have to be raised for, bad debt, and that kind of debt has actually fallen under Perry.

  • retire05

    Because it doesn’t matter. Rational thinking people know it’s a lie. Guess that leaves you out.

  • retire05

    Perry was not approached by Rove to run for Ag Commissioner, although Rove seems to want to take credit for that now.

    Perry was approached by Phil Graham, not Karl Rove, to switch parties, as Graham had done, and run for Ag Commissioner. But the whole move to the Republican party was started by John Connelly in 1973, after he had served as JFK’s Secretary of the Navy and quit to run for, and win, the gubernatorial election in Texas.

    The movement to the right really gained momentum when Dukakis secured the nomination. Dukakis represented the “new” left, and Texas D’s, not all that liberal, started shifting.

    You are bashing a man you seem to know little about and I would venture a guess you are relying on Ron Paul’s daily talking points unless you are one of those Alex Jones/Debra Medina freaks.

  • Aaron Gardner

    If you watch Reagan’s announcement speech in 1979 he wanted an open border and free trade. He wanted North America to be a free trade zone that lifted not only America, but also Mexico and Canada.

    Many of our problems are different today than they were 10, 20, or 30 years ago. That doesn’t necessarily mean that the solutions, or the principles on which we craft those solutions are different or need to be different.

  • powertothepeople

    my point with each and every single one of your posts.

    And no one with any real political knowledge cares about polls this far out. But I do not expect you to have the mental ability to understand that.

    You beclown yourself.

  • reggie182

    http://www.texastribune.org/texas-politics/2012-presidential-election/perry-supported-tax-hikes-he-opposed-them/

  • retire05

    I asked “have you ever talked to Perry in person”. I did not ask if you have ever heard Perry speak in person.

    Not one and the same thing.

  • JSobieski

    For years, people publicy wondered where the W they know behind closed doors was when he was involved in a more conventional public speaking setting.

    You can nitpick over words if you like, but the similarities between W and Perry on the issue of communications is concerning . . . and bordering alarming.

  • florajo

    Yes. Rick Perry should add some robots to his ads. Romney doesn’t need to (insert punchline here).

  • bs61

    Amazing!

    I guess the fact that he used to support Al Gore really bugs you for some reason. It doesn’t bother me, since I used to be a Dem and since Obama’s election, more and more of them left the party!

  • tailfins1959

    My attention span is fine. I just don’t want Perry’s opponents to have an easy target. He can cite a “Grapes of Wrath” effect all day long. All I’m saying is that if he takes credit for a “low unemployment rate”, he is essentially begging to be on the Rachel Maddow show over at MS-LSD.

  • retire05

    The Texas Tribune was started by a Democrat operative. If you can find one conservative person on the Trib’s staff, I will eat your hat. They try to represent themselves as “non-biased” but they are about as liberal as they come, and that’s saying a lot with the Austin American-Statesman, the Houston Chronicle and the San Antonio Express giving them a run for their money as the most liberal publication in Texas.

    But hey, if it makes you feel better to take the word of a outlet run by a Democrat operative, have at it.

  • porkandcheese

    AI v. A1 = Romney v. Perry

  • reggie182

    Even if everything you say is true, what facts do you dispute in the article? Provide me with a source for those facts.

  • Scope

    was the best opponent to go against Perry???? The truther????? The Ron Paul loving nutjob?????

  • streiff

    Ha

  • trutexan

    and that style of turning the other cheek left conservatives infuriated and at a loss to understand why he didn’t fight back or respond immediately to unjust criticisms.

    I completely agree with your take on this.

  • Scope

    Prove this statement-

    “Oh, he did use taxpayer dollars to bribe companies to come here, for which he got generous donations, for which he rewarded donors with big lucrative government contracts.”

    You’ve been here slamming Perry with these types of statements all along. Now man up and show proof of what you said. Otherwise you are a serial slammer and nothing more.

    Aren’t you the one who works for a company that sells pre-paid legal insurance that hurt by Perry’s loser pays lawsuit reform?

  • trutexan

    but only 1 in 5 can pass the background check and drug test. Really.

  • http://travismonitor.blogspot.com Freedoms Truth

    I hate to say it but you are kind of making his point. Yes, Medina was a flake, and RonPaulite Republican with no chance of winning, but she still got 15%. So how does Perry beating Medina the flake prove much?

    Perry’s win over KBH was far more impressive because she had such high positives, but they were ankle-deep from a grassroots base that was more conservative than she. Perry was able out out-conservative and out-populist her easily. But I saw it up close – Perry ran a 2010 campaign and KBH hadn’t run a tough campaign since 1994 and it showed. She was WAAY behind the curve in many ways.

    Perry should be able to run a similar campaign at the Presidential level but he has to step it up in so many ways. Let’s add to the production values some more important things:
    - Substance: Perry needs to get as wonky as Romney, Gingrich and Cain when he needs to
    - Positive agenda: That substance needs to be a positive and uplifting agenda. He’s going to need to flesh out things a lot more and get beyond the basic slogans. He also needs to go beyond “Texas is great” routine. It’s an opening line, not a deal-closer.
    - Rebut all negatives: Perry knows how to do this, but has been a bit ‘slow’ to respond, perhaps a sign of his fast rampup.

    Perry has won more tough races than any of the other top candidates, he can be the best campaigner in the field.

    I will add that I agree also on the comment wrt negativity in campaigning. Perry doesnt need that at all right now. His problem is NOT Cain or Romney. This nomination is his to win if he just fixes what HE wants to say and do.

  • mtbrimstone

    There is quite a bit in your post that could be picked a part. But let me ask you this: Do we and should we not fault (at least to some substantial degree) any state governor or the U.S. President (e.g. Obama) for his or her jobs record? If so, then when things get good, should they not also receive credit? Perry has been Governor of Texas for ten years (the longest term of any Texas Governor), and you are claming he should receive no or next to no credit for Texas’ job growth? That means you would not be able to credit any President or Governor by virtue of being in office and leading the nation or a state for job growth that has taken place. Rick Perry has a right to benefit from the Texas jobs record, even if it is simply because he has not stood in the way of job growth.

  • bzip

    I didn’t see anything wrong with it. At least Perry is going after Mitt. You sure can’t count on Cain going after Mitt, I wonder why :-) .

    I realize I am from Calif. so my mind might not be that great but I kind of remember Reagan was a democrat, heck many of us were at some point before we gained some wisdom and years.

    If anyone questions Perry’s conservative record and all the good things he has done – I suggest you take a good look at his record and the bills he has passed over a decade long period.

    At least Perry has a long record to look back at and how he governed – I can’t say the same for some of the other candidates.

  • retire05

    That I, as a Texan, have seen my property taxes decrease? That I, as a Texas, have not seen a raise in my sales tax? That I saw no increase in my business taxes?

    Was there an increase in cigarette taxes? Yes, so cry me a river. If I want to smoke, I pay the price.

    Be specific. I do not intend to give the Trib any more traffic than they already get. But if you like them, everytime Texas executes some subhuman POS, the Trib has a writter that weeps for the guy because, well, you know, he was really a nice guy who just messed up one time and then discovered that Jesus lives in jails.

  • http://travismonitor.blogspot.com Freedoms Truth

    GWBush lacked 2 things:
    1. Failure to adhere to conservative principles in a pinch
    2. Failure to communicate those principles and actions well when it was needed

    Oh, and why did Reagan stay beloved? Because he NAILED it on 1 and 2.

    Whoever wins in 2012 needs to be a real conservative (Sorry Mitt) and needs to be a solid and strong communicator. For that reason, none of the candidates gets a pass on what they say, how they debate, etc. It’s all in the mix of “What makes the best President.”

  • JSobieski

    None of our candidates has really tackled a large problematic government entity and fixed it.

    Perry took a good situation and made it a bit better.
    Romney took a crappy situation and made it a bit less crappy.
    Cain never ran a government organization. Fixing stuff is harder when its in the public sector.

    For people who never understood the fascination with Daniels or Christie, it comes to this simple point: both of those individuals took on bad situation in ways that were both conservative and effective.

    Newt’s time as Speaker is the most impressive from this vantagepoint, but we all know that Newt has a Richard Nixon problem.

  • circlegranch

    Since Romney isn’t attacking Cain that must mean they are working together. Both are in full mode against Perry with Romney apparently going after the Al Gore thing now as his latest attempt to deflect attention away from his own questionable past. When will he explain:
    As a senate candidate in ’94, Romney said he favored strong gun controls and laws and that he didn’t ‘line up with the NRA’. When he started his presidential bid in ’07, he joined the NRA. Also in ’94 he advocated for spending limits on senatorial campaign contributions and wanted PAC’s dissolved. In ’08, he had a change of heart and decided that McCain-Feingold attacked free speech. He likes PAC’s now, too, as evidence by his current PAC contributing the max amount to several Congressional campaigns in ’10. Oddlly enough, a number of those recipients are now endorsing him. In ’02, when he ran for governor, he said he’d always preserve a woman’s right to choose. Again, once he decided to run for president and needed to attract values voters in the GOP, he switched to a pro-life position, and he probably doesn’t want to talk about a number of donations he and his wife made to Planned Parenthood. In ’05 Romney stated that the immigration reform policies proposed by GW Bush and McCain were ‘reasonable’. By the time ’06 rolled around, he attacked McCain on those same positions saying they were amnesty. After taking alot of criticism for having illegal Guatamalen’s working in his yard, he finally fired the contractor. Of course, there’s mixed messages from him on human-caused climate change and a number of other issues that he’s exercised his liberty of changing his mind about. He claims it was never for political expediency, only because of a change of opinion. We’ll see in the next debate if he can offer the same leniency to others on the stage that have changed a position or two in their careers, or if its only Mr. Romney that is allowed that priviledge.

  • aesthete

    was a conservative, in a pinch or otherwise. 2000 was no time of great duress, and his campaign platform was primarily built around how to expand the federal government’s role in domestic policy in “conservative” ways.

  • intensity

    ….really pictue pizza man beating the Prez for the white house??

  • circlegranch

    Keep blogging here and elsewhere. Call into local talk radio shows; put the heat on FOX and commentators such as Hannity to give equal time to all candidates. We also need state campaign organizations; not just in IA and the early primary states. Go to www.rickperry.org and at ‘Contact Us’ send them an email offering to get things rolling in your state. Find fellow supporters, start communicating, go online and buy bumper stickers. A flood of visible support will cause your conservative friends and neighbors to take a look. Don’t let the media drive which campaigns have the most energy. Put together a fact sheet on his accomplishments using the Texas state governor’s webpage and have it handy to give out to the uniformed. Participate in all the online polls. It’s way too early to get discouraged or to give up. Most of it is up to him, but do your part. Pray alot.

  • intensity

    …this is not a bad first campaign add for Perry against Romney.

    I can’t wait for Perry to start the Romneycare=Obamacare and then it will be:

    BYE BYE MITT

  • runner12

    Sorry, but by the description I expected pure tripe. But it was not that bad. His first was better, but I thought this ad was unique.

    Kudos to Team Perry for trying something new.

  • paladin1

    “Did you notice how much dirtier the primary became after Perry got in?”

    As a matter of fact, I did notice how much dirtier it got. Bachmann, Santorum, Romney, and now Cain have pulled a concerted group effort out to slam Perry, his Texas record, and his conservative credentials. This was quickly bolstered and abetted by the Bushite”s front man, Carl Rove and every media outlet including Fox. The Republican establishment fears him because unlike Bachmann, et al, none of the other conservatives were even close to challenging Romney. Perry came in a a real threat and the establishment panicked at the idea that their chsoen candidate Romney, could actually lose.

    To expect Perry to sit back and take it and not fight fire with fire is absurd but tht is exactly what you suggest. The fallacy of your statement is so evident that I am surprised you haven”t been challenged over it before now.

    P.S.–Moderators, I do not have a “post new diary button” on my log-in and can’t put up a diary. Can you help?

  • http://travismonitor.blogspot.com Freedoms Truth

    What we want to know is what will (insert candidate here) do to BEAT Obama and TURN the country around.

    Going after other candidates, like Bachmann and Santorum did vs Perry, is the path to loserville. Not interested in it. we already know why we don’t want Romney so any anti-Romney ad adds nothing.

  • rec0n

    I was looking for that. Actually I was looking for the interview Perry had in which he told that story, but this’ll do.

  • renl57

    You’ve got millions of people in this country like me who suffer from asthma or emphysema, who have to stay cognizant of smog alerts. You think they or their families or friends or parents of young children will vote for Perry who says it was a bad thing for Romney to get coal plants to stop pouring their junk in the air?

    This ad isn’t about global warming, for which evidence is still open to debate. This ad is about *air pollution*, whose detrimental effects on public health have been known by science for 60 years at least.

    This ad actually puts Perry on the side of accepting air pollution if there’s any economic benefit to be had from the polluter. Everything involves trade-offs, of course; but Perry didn’t say that. He just said that Romney was wrong to force a coal plant to stop polluting so much. From my vantage point, Romney had a good point:

    About 20 years ago, a company wanted to open a tire recapping plant just one block from my home. The fumes from there would have blown right into my home and the homes of my neighbors. We homeowners went to court and stopped the plant from being constructed. Would Perry have supported putting a polluting factory right next to a residential neighborhood just because it was going to create jobs?

  • intensity

    …but Romney’s still in front.

    These ads will crystallize Perry as our conservative pick and lead up nicely to a presidential campaign.

  • florajo

    That’s pretty good!

  • explodinghead

    The ad is okay. Granted the quality is not Hollywood slick, but then we got a stylistically elegant, articulate, charismatic figure elected last time and what did the style-over-substance get us…. Obummer.
    Look carefully, Perry is attacking Romney, Cain is not. If Cain really wants to beat Romney he needs to be the one running these ads. Cain is coasting on the multiple attacks on Perry from the RINO establishment, the MSM and Romney. If they didn’t fear Perry, he wouldn’t be attacked on every front.
    Cain said that he would not accept the VP slot if Perry offered it to him. He accepts Romney over Perry. Time for Cain to put up or shut up. Time for Cain to attack Romney himself, and stop letting others take the flack. Or is Cain merely trying to stay in Romneys good graces ,so he can be Romney’s VP? Beware the slick, articulate, talker who says what you want to hear and walks it back as soon as he gets press pushback.
    Perry is definitely morre Conservative than Romney, so why won’t Cain support Perry over Romney? Cain supporters, does this concern you? Is Cain running for second place behind Romney? Is he doing Romney’s attack work for him? I don’t trust Cains’ motives yet. Too much triangulation when the media asks him a question. He has been a radio talk-show host for a long time, he knows exactly what he is saying and what impression he is leaving behind. Cain is too skilled a motivational speaker and too deliberate in his speeches to be allowed “mistakes in speech”. If he truly wants a Conservative elected then he should start attacking Romney now and make sure a Conservative gets the nomination.

  • weyland

    Yeuch. What has been imagined cannot be unimagined.

  • http://travismonitor.blogspot.com Freedoms Truth

    While negative campaigning ‘works’ for campaigns, it is a disservice to us the voters, and enough voters know it to get turned off by attack politics.

    Cain and Gingrich have been rising by being positive in debates, Bachmann and Santorum have flailed after attacking Perry. Cain deserves to be criticized for his negative comments on Perry. They were wrong, but the solution isn’t ‘hey attack the other guy”.

    I don’t need ANY candidate to remind me of why Romney isn’t conservative enough, I need each candidate to tell me why THEY ARE conservative enough.

    For Perry that means a solid, thorough, conservative agenda – his own ‘contract with America’, his own Tax Plan, his own Economic white paper, his principle on entitlement reform. If Perry thinks attacking Romney will win him the nomination, he’s getting bad advice, and worse, it will end up disserving the voters by distracting from getting them to put forth what they are FOR.

    A strong conservative agenda is the clear contrast you need…. “If he truly wants a Conservative elected then …” the best he (Cain) can do is keep expounding on those conservative principles.

  • uncmike

    I was a big supporter of Bush, monetarily and otherwise. when he was first elected. But by the time his second term rolled around, I was livid with his policies, mostly contrived by Karl Rove I suppose. You are absolutely spot on when you say Bush did a great job of losing the public’s respect–he certainly lost mine–and I will never support another Bush family member. OTOH, Perry is no Bush.

  • explodinghead

    Ooh, I may have to go wash my brain out with soap.

  • explodinghead

    Every election we hear the pundits tell us that no-one likes negative ads, but every year negative ads work. Be realistic, if someone is lying about your record and they tell the lies long enough, loud enough and in enough markets, your message gets drowned out. Someone needs to attack Romney, and tell the truth about his flip-flops. Romney has the entire MSM covering for him, as did Obama in 2008. We don’t need the MSM to pick our candidate again.
    Also, Cain is not holier than thou. He just has had no need to attack Perry directly, as the MSM has done it for him, and don’t forget he chimed in with the rock comment.
    Newt has stayed above the fray, and he has a detailed plan out there, and he is not going to get the nomination.

  • http://pocketchangeproductions.net/ anotherindyfilmguy

    Otherwise I’d consider that an interesting niche to fill…

  • http://travismonitor.blogspot.com Freedoms Truth

    Negative ads “work” for candidates. But they don’t “work” for campaigns or for we the primary voters. We are just chewing up and spitting out our own candidates, wasting oxygen that SHOULD be used to get candidates to answer the serious questions, like:
    - How will you create 10 million jobs by the end of your first term? How will you close the trillion dollar deficit? What %age of gdp will your federal budget take in? What kind of judges will you appoint? Will you promise to repeal Obamacare, frank-dodd, repeal all obama tax hikes, cut the spending? what’s your plan on immigration? on federal involvement vs local control on education? on energy? etc.

    I am a Reagan 11th Commandment kind of guy. I don’t want, like or care at all to see our primary candidates going after eachother. Campaigns will do it anyway because it ‘works’, but I don’t give a rat’s behind what they think of the other candidate. When I am hiring a guy at work, I don’t run the interview by asking “What do you think of the guy we interviewed last week?” So why do I need it here?

    “Someone needs to attack Romney, and tell the truth about his flip-flops. ”
    IF Romney or any candidate is being dishonest, someone does … it doesnt have to be another candidate. We’ve got enough bloggers and 3rd party participants to do that vetting.

    “Cain is not holier than thou.”
    Agree on that. Romney on Perry’s ‘ponzi’, Perry on flipflopping, Bachmann, Santorum, they’ve all done it.
    Gingrich at least in debates has stayed positive. Cain too stayed positive until his recent comments wrt Perry’s rock etc. That negative stuff tarnished Cain. So going negative is good?
    Not in my book.

  • snowshooze

    He is hands down the best at debate.
    This modern world is NOT based on substance, but rather sound bites and clever packaging.
    Cain is likely to say many more dumb things, and even where we might be able to ferret out his true meaning, most will not.
    I think Perry is still the one most likely to succeed, but, I consider Newt the official #3 in ascension.
    It doesn’t take much at this point to move in rankings.

  • lineholder

    The political playbook that has been traditionally relied upon may not be as effective this year as it has been in the past because these aren’t exactly “normal” circumstances. This is rather a dire situation our nation is facing.

    IMO, I do think trying to stay focused on presenting conservatism as being the best hope our nation has is probably the wisest choice to make. It does present a far more positive message, and given the circumstances our nation is facing right now, this type of message will be received better than negative ad after negative ad will be received.

  • avagreen

    and his nuttiness was not apparent to any voter in Texas at the time including me!

    We all thought he’d lost his marbles after the election when he started courting the left.
    Those too young to remember wouldn?t recognize the Al Gore of 1988. He opposed the federal funding of abortion, supported a moment of silence in schools for prayer, approved funding of the Nicaraguan contras and was against the ban on interstate handgun sales. Gore?s platform was one that a conservative West Texas Democrat like state representative Perry could support when he signed up to chair the Senator?s Texas campaign.

    After that election and the continuing leftist bent in the Democrat Party in Texas, Perry left the Democrat party and went Republican. I was also in a quandry about what to do.

    In those days EVERYONE and his dog were Democrats in Texas because the Democrats in Texas back then were more conservative than the Republicans were. Perry was raised in a Democrat family where his father was a long-serving Democrat county commissioner. It was natural for him to start his political career as a Democrat. He won his first election in 1984 when he was elected to the Texas house and soon became a rising star in Texas democrat politics. An opportunity to advance himself presented itself and he became Gore?s Texas campaign manager in 1988.
    After Gore lost his mind, Perry left him and Gore’s party. As did I about the same time.

    Does that answer your question?

  • avagreen

    and his nuttiness was not apparent to any voter in Texas at the time including me!

    We all thought he?d lost his marbles after the election when he started courting the left.
    Those too young to remember wouldn?t recognize the Al Gore of 1988. He opposed the federal funding of abortion, supported a moment of silence in schools for prayer, approved funding of the Nicaraguan contras and was against the ban on interstate handgun sales. Gore?s platform was one that a conservative West Texas Democrat like state representative Perry could support when he signed up to chair the Senator?s Texas campaign.

    After that election and the continuing leftist bent in the Democrat Party in Texas, Perry left the Democrat party and went Republican. I was also in a quandry about what to do.

    In those days EVERYONE and his dog were Democrats in Texas because the Democrats in Texas back then were more conservative than the Republicans were. Perry was raised in a Democrat family where his father was a long-serving Democrat county commissioner. It was natural for him to start his political career as a Democrat. He won his first election in 1984 when he was elected to the Texas house and soon became a rising star in Texas democrat politics. An opportunity to advance himself presented itself and he became Gore?s Texas campaign manager in 1988.
    After Gore lost his mind, Perry left him and Gore?s party. As did I about the same time.

    Does that answer your question?

    **somehow I thought I was posting my comment in reply to ribeyes’ post, but it got put somewhere else………..so, I’m posting it again. Hopefully in the correct spot this time. Logging in seems to mess up the placement.

  • avagreen

    the race.
    I’m confident that he will do better in the next one.
    No one in the MSM and even his supporters, don’t mention this.
    He was in pain as can be told by looking at this picture after the debate.
    http://blog.chron.com/rickperry/2011/09/pe…othest-debater/

    (I hope this is in the right spot. This is getting old!)

  • avagreen

    Agree with retire05, the Texas Tribune is a liberal newspaper. Libs in this state hate Perry.

    To answer your question, reggie, Perry has managed to keep taxes low during his 10-year tenure as governor. Countless opportunities to raise taxes presented themselves during Perry?s ten years as governor, yet he resisted the temptation. Texas was ranked 49th among the states in per-capita taxes, at $1,434 a year in 2005, according to a 2009 Census Bureau report and a Texas Public Policy Foundation analysis (Feb., 2011) shows Texas with a 7.9% combined state/local tax burden, ranking it 45th among the states ? for comparison, New York?s burden is 12.1%.

    After 10 years in office, with ample opportunities to raise taxes, Perry has maintained an enviable record as a low-tax governor.

    Currently, Texas imposes no tax on personal income or capital gains. Perry remains opposed to a Texas state income tax and recently vetoed a proposed Internet state sales tax. Perry supports a balanced U.S. budget and a balanced budget amendment to the U.S. Constitution.

    In his first veto of the year, governor Perry vetoed the Internet sales tax bill (HB 2403). That?s just one more reason for Texas? low cost of living. At least for now, Texans can continue to buy goods over the Internet without paying sales tax on all purchases. Many other states have already enacted new laws to require all Internet sellers to collect a state?s sales tax (regardless of nexus) and others are feverishly getting on the bandwagon ? drawn like a moth to a flame ? to grab and spend this new source of previously out-of-reach revenue.

  • circlegranch

    and he almost didn’t show up because of the intensely difficult situation going on in his home state. With that said, his following 2 performances showed him to be a novice on the nat’l stage. He must get it right in the coming debates. Kinda like when my boys played Little League and would swing and miss and their coach would say, “Now you’ve seen it, now it hit it.” Perry knows that Romney, aided and abetted by his pals Bachmann and Cain, are coming loaded for bear again. His best defense will be offense. Just deflect their stupid remarks with the truth and turn it all back on Obama. Engaging them in their petty ankle-biting diminishes him. All he needs to say is simply, “(Mitt), (Michelle), (Herman), you aren’t my enemy and I won’t use up the little time I have here tonight to get my message out to trade barbs with you. My record is out there, so is yours. I’m running to defeat Barack Hussein Obama.”

  • circlegranch

    whether its in the form of illegals or just those escaping the failed economies and crushing taxation of other states like CA and IL. Also, hundreds of thousands that Perry rescued from Hurricane Katrina (and those that just went to TX on their own to find help) ended up staying. The unemployment rate is high there but they keep having more people come into the state. The 40% of all jobs in the country that were created since ’09 occurred in TX and at least 85% of them were above minimum wage level.

  • circlegranch

    and Newt’s debate skills, one-liner expertise and incredible knowledge would be a true asset to Perry. I’d love to hear Newt come out during the next debate and declare, “Mr Perry, I’d be honored to serve as your vice president.” The crowd would go wild and Mr. Cain would be trying to wipe the egg off his face.

  • Common_Cents

    Newt has probably been the most vetted candidate so far. If I had a nickel for every time ‘baggage’ was used. At least its known baggage.

    I’d look for Gingrich to move from top 4 to top 3 soon. He has been ascending slow but sure. The money is the issue for him to have enough staying power.

    Other ‘clean slate’ candidates aren’t so dandy when they get some scrutiny. Cain’s upfront outsider nature will cause him to be a ‘gaffe’ machine. Maybe America is ready for straight talk or maybe not.

  • avagreen

    I was thinking along the same lines myself just last night.

    Maybe a good sign. :)

  • porkandcheese

    In debates, sure, because his polling only allotted him a little time to get out his folksy soundbytes. But to raise his profile, he obliged the media in using the race card, so he could go on all the talk shows and dent Perry’s support.

    Bachmann got cocky after her debate victory over Pawlenty, and she had just lost Ed Rollins as her campaign manager. The Palinistas were glad of the latter, but Rollins is experienced in the ways of campaigns and brought the Huckabee supporters over to Bachmann. When her attacks became too histrionic, Cain became the new flavor of the month. He likewise has too watch getting too smug with his support, but I predict he will blow it. That’s the reason you hear reports of his book tour and white wine in the morning. A national campaign is a novelty for him; he speaks of himself in third person and commits gaffes. Voters are being warned Cain doesn’t have it together.

    Of course, we expect the candidates to spar on their records. We don’t expect to hear them called child molesters and traitors and racists. That’s what the 11th commandment was about. Don’t get personal with someone who is still on your side. Point out why you’re the better candidate. Perry’s problem is he waited too long to attack Mitt, since he cruised to the top as soon as he got in the race. He underestimated Romney’s determination to win at all costs, and Romney will say things in the primary that he will later recant in the general.

    That is his vulnerability as a candidate and why he has not been successful in politics. Same with Cain I suspect. And Santorum. Gingrich has been out of the action so long, who knows? But Perry is a machine. $17 million goes a long way, and none of these other candidates can take on Romney or Obama in terms of funding and campaign discipline. Perry may still pull this off.

  • porkandcheese

    Perry doesn’t need him. He is good in debates, but so are a lot of people. I would love to see Susana Martinez as Perry’s VP. She is the daughter of a sheriff from El Paso who won three Golden Gloves titles in the 50s. Her grandparents were illegals. She became a prosecutor before she became the governor of NM after Bill Richardson. She has reformist credentials and is feisty. She brings a swing state with 5 electoral college votes into play. The Perry ticket no longer seems so Southern but more Western. A woman on the ticket makes him look tough on national security but not mean to children. Perry / Martinez would be a winner.

  • deVere

    He’s very talented and he might be in need of work.

  • avagreen

    ;)

  • Jim Tomasik

    (Thx 2 bzip)

  • porkandcheese

    I look forward to Erick’s next review :)

  • Common_Cents

    a Hollywood action movie trailer?

    uninformative, nobody who already didn’t know about the issue would know what the message is.

    the editor forgot to take his ADD meds.

  • explodinghead

    I think the Romneys Remedy ad is great. People were complaining about the production quality of the last ad, this one is really good. It highlights my main problem with Romney, RomneyCare. Do you just hate Perry? The message is clear, Romney wants to give America what he gave Massachusetts….Obamneycare.
    I think it’s a vast improvement on the last ad and at least the Perry people are trying to point out Romneys weaknesses. If someone doesn’t we should just go ahead now and hand him the nomination.

  • http://www.google.com/profiles/david.dlpe daviddlpe

    You can always count on Scope to comply with the RS admonishment to BE RESPECTFUL…

    Based on her proposed policy, Medina was clearly a more conservative choice. It was not known during the campaign her views on 9-11. Also, your characterization of her support for Ron Paul stretches into the territory of hyperbole. Even so, the point is that her conservative proposals made her a formidable challenge to Perry, and he wilted under the pressure, even though it never got truly close due to the campaign mistakes made by Medina.

    My point stands… Perry has yet to win against a true conservative with resources anywhere close to his own. This primary is the first time he has faced such a challenge, and it is the reason he has fallen flat on his face. He has more of a record to run away from than he has to run on. Show me the policies which were of his initiative that have contributed to or created the conditions in Texas Perry tries to claim as his successes? Once you get past his rhetoric, Perry is nothing more than our worst stereotypes of what is a politician.

  • http://www.google.com/profiles/david.dlpe daviddlpe

    Given your own lacking argument, you might be wise to avoid insulting the attention span of others…

    The population growth in Texas is easy to explain. It is about perception. Texas has been receiving national attention for the fact that we arent suffering as badly as the rest of the country. That is due to some basic factors which were in place long before Rick Perry assumed office, such as no state income tax and an environment that is business-friendly (right to work state).

    Just because the Texas boat has stayed afloat because we did not punch holes in it doesnt mean that our captain is a good pilot… Perry did not build the boat, nor did he do anything to improve it. So you want to make him president on the mere basis that he didnt screw the pooch?

    Democrats have lowered the bar enough – lets not assist them in that process.

  • izoneguy

    Based on their good looks & debating skills?

    What Perry has done in Texas is exactly why he should be President.

    Romney touts RomneyCare has something great and he DID
    think it would be good for the rest of the country.

    Romney will continue in the Grand Fubar tradition of Obama
    in trying to fix everything with big government solutions.

    It is best to get government off of our backs and out of our business.
    Rick Perry is the man that understands this.

  • http://www.google.com/profiles/david.dlpe daviddlpe

    …would help answer your question.
    Trans texas corridor, texas enterprise fund, emerging technology fund – all garnered huge donations for perry, and many of the larger donors received the reward of multil- million dollar government contracts.
    Your understanding of what pre-paid legal is only serves to provide further insight as to your heightened levels of ignorance. If you want to attack me instead of my arguments, i am happy to oblige.
    Pre paid legal is a company which provides a form of legal insurance and protection against identity theft. It is not a service of litigation, but defense. As such, it is not harmed in any way by tort reform, or any other legislation designed to reduce frivolous lawsuits. Most of its benefit is to provide basic legal tools and services such as wills, living wills and legal contract review when buying a house, car, etc.

    Your basic accusation is that my opposition to perry is based on self-interest, and you make this accusation with zero evidence, except your faulty perception of what i do for a living. You are a prime example of what is wrong with our political discourse, as given by the example set by your political idol, whom you emulate with your petty attacks.

    My opposition to Perry is firmly based in what i have seen first hand as a resident of texas. I make substantive arguments based on that evidence. If you cannot defeat my arguments on their merit without attacking my character, then perhaps you need to excuse yourself from the exchange.

  • http://www.google.com/profiles/david.dlpe daviddlpe

    Reagan made a deal with democrats. they went back on their word as democrats do. our problem with illegals at that time was nowhere near the scope that it is today. put those 2 factors together and there is no way that reagan’s stance today would look anything like rick perry. please tell me how it makes sense to put more border patrol on the border while at the same time offering education benefits to illegal residents? clearly rick perry has more compassion for the illegal aliens who violate our laws then he does for the border patrol agents (and their families) whose lives he endangers. reagan would never have such an idiotic policy.

  • http://www.google.com/profiles/david.dlpe daviddlpe

    getting government of off our backs? sure he does …
    that’s why he tried to force sixth grade girls to take a vaccine for an std without even offering parental consent or opt out in the original bill.
    Perry became governor of texas on the promises of doing something about illegal immigration and property tax reform.

    10 years later and I’m trying to let you know that all we have gotten in texas is hot air. he even tried to claim that he it successfully lowered property taxes which is a blatant lie.

    in 1 year property tax rates were lowered, which perry tried to claim as a victory. the only problem is that even though the rate went down the appraisals went up to the extent that more than made up for the rate decrease. the net result was that in the year perry tried to claim as a victory, texas homeowners saw an average increase in the amount of taxes paid by around 10 percent.

    and on the subject of illegal immigration perry has been an abject failure.

    I can assure you that as a texas conservative if perry were anywhere near as good as his rhetoric I would be the first to stand in line and vote for him. as it is I see him for what he is – a liar, a con man and the absolute epitome of everything we despise in a politician.

  • izoneguy

    Mitt Romney’s Lying Problem


    Tell me again how much Texas State Income tax you pay?
    That’s right we don’t have one.
    Property taxes are more expensive in Texas.
    Difference is you can choose the size of house
    you live in. I pay about $6000 per year in property taxes.
    Our schools are very nice. I choose the neighborhood
    where I live and knew how much the taxes would be.
    They have stayed steady for me since 2003.
    Sure I could move to another state and probably pay $1500-$2000
    in property taxes for the same house (which would also cost
    more BTW in another state) but the corresponding state income taxes
    would penalize success and thus make your rant look kinda silly.

    Imagine a Kay Bailey Hutchinson or Bill White as Governor?
    Look at California as the benchmark of failure and tell me again
    where Rick Perry has failed?

  • izoneguy

    David L Pipkin

    David is a Vocalist/Entertainer who has performed in bars, restaurants, retirement facilities and country clubs in and around Houston, TX since the early 1990′s.

  • http://www.google.com/profiles/david.dlpe daviddlpe

    But you are comparing apples and oranges. You are describing conditions in Texas Perry did nothing to create.
    As to some of your description, you think it is a good thing that you have to choose a school by the house you can afford, and where you live? Is that the best we can do? Not allowing school choice sure keeps us poor folks out of your rich schools with better teachers and programs, doesn’t it?

    Again, i am not a Romney fan. But I look at the man and the state he governed. It is much more difficult to be a conservative in a blue state, and it is weak thinking to only look at conditions of a state and who presided over the state… In that way of thinking, we would have to credit Clinton for the great economy of the 90s, even though there was no Clinton campaign initiative which created it. Much of Clinton’s economy was residual from the Reagan era. The rest was the republican revolution of 1994.

    Perry is no different. In fact, Perry has failed to keep virtually every promise he made. What has changed with our system of property tax? Has illegal immigration improved or worsened on his watch?

    You know the answer to this!

    And the worst thing is that he has no integrity or character. He has used taxpayer dollars to create governmental slush funds which he uses to bribe businesses. Businesses make generous campaign donations to him to get these funds, and on top of that, he rewards the largest donors with multi-million dollar contracts.

    Both he and Romney stray from conservative ideology, but I cannot say I’ve seen evidence that Romney is a crook or crony.

    Let me be clear, my current front runner is Cain. But if I have to choose between Perry or Romney, I hold my nose and pick Romney.

  • http://www.google.com/profiles/david.dlpe daviddlpe

    Are required for you to consider an informed opinion?

    Do we not all have the right to vote? Shouldn’t that vote be based on sound reason, which can be shared with others to make the best decision possible?

    And just what qualifies you to be the judge of whose opinions are valid?

    I enjoy what I do for a living, and I love my country. Can you say the same?

    If so, welcome to the discussion. If not, I have two words for you…

  • http://www.google.com/profiles/david.dlpe daviddlpe

    It was Rove and David Weeks who approached Perry about switching parties and running for statewide office. Perry has even said so. He had tried for years unsuccessfully to advance in the house leadership in the democrat party. he was about to retire and become a lobbyist when he was approached by Rove or Weeks to run as a republican for ag commissioner. He may not have held an official title of texas campaign manager 4 al gore, but everyone certainly knew that’s what he was doing.
    that’s why he never denied the allegation, and he has even tried to claim that it was his work for gore that caused him to switch parties.
    the fact is that when it was a democrat district Perry ran as a democrat. when he got the opportunity to run for statewide office he ran as a republican – in a red state of course.