Mitt Romney: The Magically Malleable Man of Mystery


Mitt Romney is probably thanking his lucky stars the Politico decided to drop a Sunday night hit piece on Herman Cain alleging Cain sexually harassed at least two women. Had it not happened last night, this morning the political world would be talking about George Will’s stinging take down of Mitt Romney and conservatives who support him coupled with Chris Wallace’s observation that Mitt Romney won’t come on the Sunday shows to be asked tough questions.

I’ll address the Cain issue later today, but I don’t want to ignore the Mitt Romney issue just yet.

Back after the 2008 campaign ended and John McCain was winding down his campaign, a McCain staffer sent me the 200 pages of opposition research the campaign had compiled on Mitt Romney. The staffer told me I might find it useful by 2012. Between computer changes, email changes, etc. I lost it.

Late this spring, another former McCain campaign affiliated person sent me the same document. Ten pages in that document sum up why conservatives should think long and hard before embracing MItt Romney. And once they’ve thought long and hard about it, they should think some more.

These are ten pages that explain completely why so many conservatives do not and cannot trust Mitt Romney.

Let me say that if Mitt Romney were the Republican nominee, every Republican would be wise to support him. Beating Barack Obama is the paramount goal of 2012. But for almost eight years, a number of prominent conservatives and conservative groups became all encompassing cheerleaders for Team Bush, even after Team Bush clearly showed it wasn’t all that conservative. Before hopping in bed with another candidate, conservatives should be sure he is the real deal.

Beating Obama is grand. But doing so without selling out key principles or putting conservatism in the hands of someone else who would kill the free market to save it should not be done if it can be helped.

Very few conservatives dislike Mitt Romney. The problem, as George Will alludes to, is that few actually trust him. The McCain opposition book, written by a guy who’d go on to be Mitt Romney’s head of research, shows why.

“After studying Presidential nominations for 30 years, I’ve never seen somebody who has so completely renounced his past record when he decided to run for President, said Northeaster University Professor William Mayer to the Chicago Tribune’s Jill Zuckman on May 22, 2007. That’s how page 168 in the McCain opposition book began. The heading on that page is “Flip-Flops”. The next ten pages contain every reason why conservatives are suspicious of Romney.

“Romney Was Pro-Choice, Then Not Pro-Choice, Then Pro-Choice Again, Then Pro-Life,” blares the first subheading in this section. There are ample newspaper quotes citing Mitt Romney’s conversions back and forth.

  • “Romney supports a federal health care plan option that includes abortion services, would vote for a law codifying the 1972 Roe v. Wade decision that legalized abortion and backs federal funding for abortions as long as states can decide if they want the money, [a spokesman] said.” (Ed Hayward, “Anti-Abortion Group Endorses Romney Bid,” Boston Herald, 9/8/94)
  • “Romney supports a federal health care plan option that includes abortion services, would vote for a law codifying the 1972 Roe v. Wade decision that legalized abortion and backs federal funding for abortions as long as states can decide if they want the money, [a spokesman] said.” (Ed Hayward, “Anti-Abortion Group Endorses Romney Bid,” Boston Herald, 9/8/94)
  • “[Massachusetts Citizens for Life] considers Romney to be an abortion-rights supporter, as do national antiabortion groups such as the Family Research Council. … [Romney aide Eric] Fehrnstrom said the governor’s position has not changed on either sex education or abortion.” (Scott S. Greenberger, “Roe V. Wade Omitted From Proclamation,” The Boston Globe, 3/25/05)
  • “I am firmly pro-life … I was always for life.” (Jim Davenport, “Romney Affirms Abortion Opposition During Stop In SC,” The Associated Press, 2/8/07)

But it was not just abortion.

In 2006, Mitt Romney said illegal immigrants should have a path to citizen. In a Lowell Sun article on March 30, 2006, Evan Lehmann quoted Mitt Romney saying “I don’t believe in rounding up 11 million people and forcing them at gunpoint from our country … With these 11 million people, let’s have them registered, know who they are. Those who’ve been arrested or convicted of crimes shouldn’t be here; those that are here paying taxes and not taking government benefits should begin a process towards application for citizenship, as they would from their home country.”

Romney went on to support John McCain’s immigration plan, denying it was amnesty. In March of 2007, Mitt Romney spoke “approvingly of efforts by McCain and Bush to solve the nation’s immigration crisis,” according to Scott Helman’s Boston Globe article. By May of that same year, Romney had begun attacking McCain’s plan as amnesty and told CNN’s “The Situation Room” that he opposed a path to citizenship for illegal aliens.

He refused to support George Bush’s tax cuts in 2004, but in 2007 claimed he had always supported them. In 2002, Romney refused to sign the Americans for Tax Reform pledge, but in 2007, Romney signed it.

In 2002, Mitt Romney wanted heaving federal regulations on campaign finances. Back in 1994, Romney even wanted a cap on congressional election spending and wanted to ban political action committees. By 2007, Romney was attacking McCain-Feingold, which did much of what he previously had wanted.

In the 1992 Presidential Primary in Massachusetts, Mitt Romney voted for Paul Tsongas. He contributed to numerous Democrats and, in 1994 while running as a Republican, praised Bill Clinton as doing “a lot of things that make sense.”

More troubling, in 1994 Mitt Romney campaigned against the Contract With America calling it “too partisan.” He also insisted he was an independent during Ronald Reagan’s years in office, balking at Ted Kennedy’s attempts to connect Romney to Ronald Reagan. By 2005, Mitt Romney claimed Ronald Reagan was his political hero.

On the second amendment, Mitt Romney supported the Brady Bill and Assault Weapons ban in 1994, but by 2007, Mitt Romney opposed gun control measures. At one point in 2007, Mitt Romney claimed he owned a gun and then admitted he did not.

The list goes on and on from gays in the military to gay marriage to stem cell research to global warming. Romney has shown himself to be not a principled conservative, but, as Jon Huntsman described him, a well lubricated weather vane.

Conservatives do not dislike Mitt Romney. They just don’t trust him. His record is the very reason why. On every significant issue of the past decade, Mitt Romney has managed to be on every side of each issue except one — he has consistently been in favor of government dictated and government managed healthcare.

Before conservatives decide to go down the aisle with Romney, they better be damned sure no other candidate is worth it.


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and yet..

capitalistpig Monday, October 31st at 5:01AM EDT (link)

this flip-flopping buffoon is the “shoe in” to be the nominee by Fox News and other pundits.
He flips on Ohios bill,then flips on Global Warming.
Never have I seen a politician (yes,Mitt,you are a politician whether you like it or not)switch position so many times.Im starting to think the only reason why hes a Republican is because they dont allow Democrats at his country club.

The definition of a politician is someone who is

davesinsanantonio (Diary) Monday, October 31st at 6:07AM EDT (link)

more concerned about his (her) next election than what is best for the country.

Mitt fits that definition!

i.d say Obama fits that description better than anyone.

sowa1 Monday, October 31st at 6:14AM EDT (link)

If Obama wins re-election he will finish destroying the economy, job, etc. Won’t have to behave himself(Ha) to run for re-election. Won’t have to buy votes from College students etc. Stop tearing apart Republicans and let’s talk about Obama. Anyone but him.

This seems like the time and place

supergirl2911 Monday, October 31st at 8:24AM EDT (link)

To talk about republicans . I appreciate someone exposing folly now. 1. Do you think his numerous changes demonstrate a concern by republicans and conservatives about how effective Romney will be or if he just wants to win without having a core set of beliefs to guide him? Do you think Democrats will not use any and all of this to take him down after primary? Do you not think the media is doing exactly what they did with McCain? They treated him with kid gloves until the general and then…a Newsweek cover looking like the devil and every day all day testing down palin and mentioning how old he was? Haha I don’t remember any mention of his age during the primary. If Abc, CBS, NBC, CNN, Msnbc, and Fox can lay it all on the table with Perry- he was a leader for Gore he supported hillarycare he gives subsidies to illegals he forced girls to have a vaccination he is a powerless governor and the job growth in Texas is just because it’s texas and the legislature he inherited all he good there he caused all the bad…. One or two critical pieces of Romney should be aired at least to cover their bias. Kind of makes you wonder how come I hear about every real or perceived or thrown on weakness of perry stupid bad debater why is no one talking about Romney? Even with him coming in so low in polls they still pile on perry
If you are a conservative this is the time to pick a candidate to represent us.

because they don't have to

uhangtight (Diary) Monday, October 31st at 12:03PM EDT (link)

republicans eat their own. You guys are doing a fine job in the place of the media. Stupid Republicans.

absolutely correct.

bloggb Tuesday, November 1st at 1:56AM EDT (link)
 

Nice post supergirl.... I agree completely...

iidvbii Monday, October 31st at 1:07PM EDT (link)

nt

In the final analysis will our children praise or curse our actions this day?

 
 

Who else but Romney?

kpryan Tuesday, November 1st at 3:29PM EDT (link)

The opp dump on Romney wasn’t anything that could cost him the election against Obama. Yes..he’s not a wild eyed Conservative..but he’ll serve the needs of R-Party and the Country better than Obama ever could.

Our Country can’t afford another term of Obama. Can we all agree on atleast THAT? Romney’s flip flops actually make him more electable to Independents and Moderates who have indicated they won’t vote for Obama if R-Party gives them someone acceptable to those less rigidly ideological.

Last year I reluctantly supported McCain because I thought of all R-candidates he had the best chance of winning…I was cruel to Romney but stuck by my guns till the end. Sarah Palin was the only bright spot in that whole miserable loss. Well, this time I’m forced to be pragmatic and vote for someone who’s not Conservative enough…but over the years, no one ever was..you can’t always get what you want, but if you try so hard…you get what you need.

No other of R-candidates can draw in the necessary votes to beat Obama…let’s focus on the positives about Romney..puhleeeze, let’s not destroy our chances to win the whole enchilada by insisting on the perfect Conservative candidate…he doesn’t exist..Romney’s R-man.

I'd rather have Obama again than Romney

heraklios Tuesday, November 1st at 3:45PM EDT (link)

Not that I like Barry O, far from it. He is against everything I hold dear.

Here’s ther thing. Republicans have been on a roll lately winning the House, state legislative chambers and local races the past 2 election cycles. Why throw away all that progress? If we nominate Romney, massive numbers of conservatives stay home on election day keeping us from taking the Senate, possibly costing us the House and setting back in state and local races.

Moreover, we’re Romney to unexpectedly win (which he won’t, bank on it) his wishy-washy, flippy-floppy, stick my finger in the air to see which side I’m on philosophy will destroy the GOP brand and do untold damage for a generation. Even though Romney is not one iota conservative, the conservative movement will be blamed for his failure, just like we were blamed for G.W. Bush’s failure, G. H. W. Bush’s failure, and Nixon’s Watergate debacle.

At least in Kentucky (where I live) a huge number of people who normally vote GOP for President will stay home next year if Romney is the GOP nominee. The Washington GOP establishment never seems to “get it” and this time is no exception.

People on this site say Michelle Bachmann or Ron Paul would be a disaster as the nominee. Trust me, either one would be infinitely better than Mitt Romney.

I'll Have Whatever You're Having

Repair_Man_Jack (Diary) Tuesday, November 1st at 4:58PM EDT (link)

and then I’ll take a cab home…

Mr. Obama is pretending that an economic “recovery” is underway when he knows damn well that the banking system is just blowing smoke up the shredded *** of what’s left of that economy – James Howard Kunstler

 
 

I'd rather have Obama again than Romney

heraklios Tuesday, November 1st at 3:45PM EDT (link)

Not that I like Barry O, far from it. He is against everything I hold dear.

Here’s ther thing. Republicans have been on a roll lately winning the House, state legislative chambers and local races the past 2 election cycles. Why throw away all that progress? If we nominate Romney, massive numbers of conservatives stay home on election day keeping us from taking the Senate, possibly costing us the House and setting back in state and local races.

Moreover, we’re Romney to unexpectedly win (which he won’t, bank on it) his wishy-washy, flippy-floppy, stick my finger in the air to see which side I’m on philosophy will destroy the GOP brand and do untold damage for a generation. Even though Romney is not one iota conservative, the conservative movement will be blamed for his failure, just like we were blamed for G.W. Bush’s failure, G. H. W. Bush’s failure, and Nixon’s Watergate debacle.

At least in Kentucky (where I live) a huge number of people who normally vote GOP for President will stay home next year if Romney is the GOP nominee. The Washington GOP establishment never seems to “get it” and this time is no exception.

People on this site say Michelle Bachmann or Ron Paul would be a disaster as the nominee. Trust me, either one would be infinitely better than Mitt Romney.

I think you're on the wrong website.

NightTwister (Diary) Tuesday, November 1st at 4:40PM EDT (link)

just sayin’…

“Baseball fits America well because it expresses our longing for the rule of law while licensing our resentment of law givers.” ― Major League Commissioner of Baseball A. Bartlett Giamatti

Indeed. -nt-

Bill S (Diary) Tuesday, November 1st at 4:58PM EDT (link)

.

“It’s such a fine line between stupid, and clever.” – David St. Hubbins

 
 

The House & Senate will keep Romney in R-line

kpryan Tuesday, November 1st at 10:44PM EDT (link)

Hera>>Not that I like Barry O, far from it. He is against everything I hold dear

When O was first elected, I thought, how bad could he be? I was too blase’ then as you are now. Obama is destroying this country’s soul with his addiction to Keynsian economics. The left wing media isn’t picking up on the emerging scandals..Fast & Furious & Solyandra. He’s ignoring the thousands of jobs available right now in the energy sector…TransCanadaPipeline & Williston ND..a boom town.

Another 4 years of Obama’s socialist policies and this Country will be full of Ghost Towns….he’ll “level the playing field” and we’ll wind up a mediocre collective of government dependents.

That said: Evaluate the primary candidates; put your strict ideology aside and pick a winner before it’s too late. You exaggerate the animosity out there toward Romney…Christie (NJ) & McDonnel (VA) endorsed him. Republicans from the NE sense a resurgence of their brand; sooo, they’ve got a horse in this race..Romney has won every debate so far & he’ll kill Obama when he gets a hold of him. Romney is a much better candidate now than last time; he’s got the fire in the belly.

Fortified by R-watch dogs in the House & Senate..this Country will recover from the Obama plague and prosper as always….with a Republican at the helm.

It won't matter, with Romney

heraklios Tuesday, November 1st at 11:22PM EDT (link)

the Democrats will be in control of the House and Senate and Barry O in the White House again so there will be no restrictions on anything.

Don’t try to divert our attention with attacks on Barry O (as Romney-bots love to do). We know the type of sellout Mitt is, we’ve seen his kind before. If he ever got elected, he and the sellouts in Congress would work hand in hand with the Democrats to carve the image of Karl Marx right onto Mt. Rushmore. Probably, Joseph Smith would be right there next to Marx. Please tell Mitt to take his flip-flopping, wishy-washy, deceitful politics back to MA and run again for Gov there.

 
 
 
 
 

Mitt is a fiscal conservative

jabajax44 Monday, October 31st at 7:20PM EDT (link)

Lets face it, Mitt is a fiscal conservative, not a social conservative. If abortion is you only concern, you may want to stay home on election. If any other issues are important to you, like whether we survive as a free society, Mitt is massively better than Obama.
There is no evidence that Mitt wouldn’t try to balance the budget and cut taxes, or reduce regulations. Or that he wouldn’t stand up for American rights around the world. Get with it.
Yes, he played the politician’s game in Mass. of pandering to their voters, who were obviously very liberal. He probably wanted to get half a loaf for fiscal conservatism rather than let someone like Patrick take it all.
I really don’t know why everyone takes Obama’s word that RomneyCare was the basis for ObamaCare. Obama is just trying to rationalize and justify his disaster. The Mass. legislature was six to one or more Democrat. They could have passed an ObamaCare law over Mitt’s veto, but they wanted some bipartisan cover, so they agreed to compromise with Mitt. Mitt has said again and again that he didn’t like everything they put in RomneyCare, but he made the deal with them so it wouldn’t be much worse than it is. He only wanted a catastrophic insurance coverage, but they insisted on comprehensive. However, RomneyCare doesn’t go down the road to a single payer system, it doesn’t tax insurance companies or limit their profits as ObamaCare does, it doesn’t set up death panels, and it relies on private insurance.
His Terrible Swift Sword

I count him as a social conservative as well.

jackdaniels11 Monday, October 31st at 7:31PM EDT (link)

Maybe he’ll prove me wrong as president. But I believe that he will put conservative judges on the court who will put the Constitution ahead of the activist agendas of the leftists on the Court (Ginsberg, Sotomayor, Kagan, Breyer).

Social conservatives’ issues haven’t made it through the Senate since DOMA in 1996. (Wait, there was the Unborn Victims of Violence Act of 2002 as well.) So no president is going to have an impact on any pending legislation. But on judicial selections, that is where the president will have his greatest impact.

I trust Mitt to put conservatives on the court.

Mr. Daniels, have you taken the first look at Mitt's record of judicial appointments?

acat (Diary) Monday, October 31st at 7:58PM EDT (link)

I really want to know what you’re smoking (or, you know, drinking) to justify thinking Mitt would appoint anything useful to the bench.

Mew

——
self-portrait

Caveat Suffragator

 
 

Mitt fiscal conservative, Do you say that with a straight face.

gekster (Diary) Monday, October 31st at 7:37PM EDT (link)

Arn’t you early for a late night comic.

They say Republicans are for the rich, Democrats are for the poor.
If they need more voters,
then they have to make more of who they are for.

We are there in the various Tea Party groups, leaderless, but not rudderless.
We steer always toward the Constitutional principles this nation was founded upon.
Erick Brockway

I’ve gone from
“Hope and Change” to
“Hopeless and Changeless”

because he's a shill, that's how he can say it

streiff (Diary) Monday, October 31st at 7:56PM EDT (link)

The only saving grace is that Romney is stuck at 25% in the polls because 75% of the GOP primary voters won’t vote for him. When Perry plummeted in the polls did Mitt’s numbers change? No. Cain’s did.When the minor GOP candidates start falling out they will coalesce around someone who isn’t a John Kerry with a better resume.

“What keeps me here is the reek of beer, the ladies and the craic”

 
 
 
 

ROMNEY the RINO...

mitch77 Monday, October 31st at 6:48AM EDT (link)

The author says if Romney is the candidate..vote for him anyway!
I’m not sure this is wisdom.
The tea Party/conservative resurgence is precisely the result of BO’s win.
Had we gotten McCain most would have failed to notice all the terrible stuff he would certainly have done,
just like most ignored GWB’s moronic moves.
We would not have swept the midterm elections…we may have lost ground.
The left is getting a good strong taste of the fruit of their policies and having a RINO come in
and get all the blame while doing nothing to fix anything will hurt the conservative cause…in my opinion…

If Romney is the nominee then it really won't matter whether or not we vote for him.

ihateliberals Monday, October 31st at 9:20AM EDT (link)

This will be like changing jackasses mid-stream. First we have to understand that there is no such thing as a conservative from Massachusetts. With that being said the only real difference between Romney and Obama is that Romney appears to like America where Obama visibility does not.

Rhino Romney

texasroots Monday, October 31st at 10:26AM EDT (link)

If Romney is the GOP nominee, Obama will be re-elected for sure. I really believe GOP establishment wants Obama reelected–they voted for him instead of McCain. Why bother with the election, then just let Obama stay.
I knew Romney would play his dirty games and then act like he’s above it all, Romney is using same thuggery tactics Obama uses.

What happened to being a true conservative? Can we have a True Conservative Party with Perry as the head? The Tea Party has been infiltrated by too many liberals.

 

As a Massachusetts Conservative...

harling Monday, October 31st at 11:01AM EDT (link)

I would clarify that there is no such thing as a conservative _politician_ from Massachusetts.

As for the idea that voting for Romney would enervate the Tea Party movement: I agree with the sentiment, but I don’t think our nation can afford (in _so_ many senses) another four years of Obama, just for the sake of further energizing the opposition movement. If we don’t prevail in 2012, there may be nothing left to salvage.

 
 
 

Remember, Romney said the collapse of the EU and its fiscal crisis is 'hypothetical'. What could go wrong?

circlegranch Monday, October 31st at 8:52AM EDT (link)

with a nominee like that?

It was a hypothetical when he said it.

jackdaniels11 Monday, October 31st at 7:34PM EDT (link)

Candidates are crazy to prep for “what if” questions at the expense of not being adequately prepared to answer more pertinent questions.

Arn't you tired of making excuses for Mitt.

gekster (Diary) Monday, October 31st at 7:40PM EDT (link)

Doesn’t it get monotonous.

They say Republicans are for the rich, Democrats are for the poor.
If they need more voters,
then they have to make more of who they are for.

We are there in the various Tea Party groups, leaderless, but not rudderless.
We steer always toward the Constitutional principles this nation was founded upon.
Erick Brockway

I’ve gone from
“Hope and Change” to
“Hopeless and Changeless”

No, it doesn't get monotonous. Monotony implies

davesinsanantonio (Diary) Tuesday, November 1st at 10:10AM EDT (link)

that you are thinking. Or, at least capable of thinking.
It is so much easier to just plug in the appropriate talking point than it is to think. That’s why the status quo, whichever status quo that may be, is so comfortable. Making positive changes requires hard thinking and then action. It is so much easier to go with the flow.

Ok, I see.

gekster (Diary) Tuesday, November 1st at 10:37AM EDT (link)

As far as going with the flow, so do dead fish.

They say Republicans are for the rich, Democrats are for the poor.
If they need more voters,
then they have to make more of who they are for.

We are there in the various Tea Party groups, leaderless, but not rudderless.
We steer always toward the Constitutional principles this nation was founded upon.
Erick Brockway

I’ve gone from
“Hope and Change” to
“Hopeless and Changeless”

 
 
 
 
 
 

Romney = One Oily Reptile

reaganiterepublicanresistance Monday, October 31st at 5:25AM EDT (link)

Coulter made a good case the attacks are coming from Left, but it could easily be the mud slingin’ Romney or Perry camps imho

Shades of Clarence Thomas… but this one’s tough too

Agreed

ohiohistorian (Diary) Monday, October 31st at 5:43AM EDT (link)

I think the biggest beneficiaries of this mud are Romney and Perry, in that order.

““Liberals tend to put the onus of your success on society and conservatives on you and your family.”

Dennis Prager

 

Ann has completely self-immolated...

rsklaroff (Diary) Monday, October 31st at 6:56AM EDT (link)

…for she reflexly came to Cain’s defense [claiming he'll be the next Veep, when pressed].

Robert B. Sklaroff, M.D.
r.sklaroff@verizon.net

[the guy with the "RS-diary" dedicated to differentiating trustworthy conservative-pundits from inside-the-beltway-RINO's]

“…fighting for Truth, Justice, and the American Way!”

Ann Coulter is a pure Rhino

texasroots Monday, October 31st at 10:52AM EDT (link)

Double-minded rhinos like Coulter, Huckabee, Hannity, Dick Morris, Alex Castellanos, all the ones who have the microphone don’t care who is president, as long as they can keep sucking up the money. Fox (Faux) News is all in for Obama, Do you not wonder why Murdoch’s FCC phone hacking hearings went away?

Faux News “fair and balance” is like MSNBC. Faux News has always been deceptive–pretend they are on your side and when they pull you in, bam, they stab you in the back. All these Rhinos should be yesterday’s news, why do we keep putting them up on a pedestal? Thank goodness I do not watch any of the networks anymore.

Actually, she is not a RINO, she is 100% REPUBLICAN!

davesinsanantonio (Diary) Tuesday, November 1st at 10:17AM EDT (link)

What she is not is conservative. She is a party girl in the sense that the PARTY can do no wrong. So, if you are a real conservative who questions the party, or goes against the party establishment’s wishes, she will shred you. To her and other party faithful conservatives are heretics.

I believe to the party establishment conservatives are more hated than the farthest leftists are.

 
 
 

This is how rumers start.

gekster (Diary) Monday, October 31st at 6:56AM EDT (link)

If you don’t have any evidence, then SHUT UP.

They say Republicans are for the rich, Democrats are for the poor.
If they need more voters,
then they have to make more of who they are for.

We are there in the various Tea Party groups, leaderless, but not rudderless.
We steer always toward the Constitutional principles this nation was founded upon.
Erick Brockway

I’ve gone from
“Hope and Change” to
“Hopeless and Changeless”

Not to Mention

edintexas Monday, October 31st at 9:03AM EDT (link)

Let’s not forget these comments are a threadjack.

“Coulter made a good case the attacks are coming from Left, but it could easily be the mud slingin’ Romney or Perry camps imho” caused me to wonder how the Romney camp was attacking Romney,

When the article is about Romney, let’s not talk about Cain in the comments about the article. Early in the morning it confuses old farts like me.

Ed, I, too, despise reading commenters who cannot

gritsandall Monday, October 31st at 9:24AM EDT (link)

stay on point. They have a favorite subject and they introduce it at every opportunity. These people also tend to say “Oh, yeah! well another guy did worse, so there!” I’ve read that Muslim terrorists can do anything; lie, steal, pretend they are not Muslim, anything necessary to obtain the result they seek – destroying infidels. It seems that political candidates can also ignore Holy Writ, thou shalt not bear false witness, if the target is getting elected. I wonder if they have a majic process by which they can get back in touch with integrity once they gain office?

 
 
 
 

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MikeG (Diary) Monday, October 31st at 5:48AM EDT (link)

Seriously, we’re getting spambots on RedState now?

Handled. Thanks.

Jeff Emanuel (Diary) Monday, October 31st at 6:28AM EDT (link)

JE

Thank you.

jackdaniels11 Monday, October 31st at 7:35PM EDT (link)
 

Funny

supergirl2911 Monday, October 31st at 10:45AM EDT (link)

Seriously when I saw the title I thought it was a joke the previous comment was about being off topic

 
 
 

I found George Will's analysis of Romney appropriate

ohiohistorian (Diary) Monday, October 31st at 5:41AM EDT (link)

I found George Will’s analysis of Romney appropriate. He is the Michael Dukakis candidate of the Republican party. Heck, he was even governor of the same state.

For those who don’t remember, Dukakis was 20 or more points up on Bush ’41 in 1988. He lost it primarily because his wonkishness in policy showed him to be totally contradictory and doing stupid things like letting Willie Horton our for a weekend from prison. Just like Romney and all of his RomneyCare, his approach toward welfare as the MA governor, etc. I find the analogy very good. Down to the point that the people, once they understand his policies, will not support them.

““Liberals tend to put the onus of your success on society and conservatives on you and your family.”

Dennis Prager

Maybe if we could get Mitt to

davesinsanantonio (Diary) Monday, October 31st at 6:10AM EDT (link)

ride around in a tank wearing a funny looking hat. . . . .

 

We Can't Let it Happen

jonerik Monday, October 31st at 11:07AM EDT (link)

The power is in our hands, the Republican electorate, to make certain such a spineless technocrat isn’t the standard-bearer of the GOP.

We really need to get busy, from Tea to shining Tea.

 

I found this analysis banal.

jackdaniels11 Monday, October 31st at 11:47AM EDT (link)

Banal and inaccurate. The death warrant on the Dukakis campaign was signed when he cozied up to the far left by publicly opposing capital punishment in all cases. Then when Bernie Shaw tried to help the guy during the debate by lobbing him a softball question about whether or not he would support the death penalty if his own wife were raped and murdered, Dukakis botched the softball question.

Plus, Dukakis had to deal with the Lee Atwater, a political genius that Karl Rove can only aspire to be like. By the time Atwater got finished defining Dukakis for the voters, most voters had a very easy choice: either stick with the Reagan/Bush machine that brought America prosperity and forged a Cold War-ending treaty with the Soviets, or take a chance on some Charles Schulz character (“Snoopy in a tank”) whose wife is addicted to pills and who lets insane black rapists (e.g. Willie Horton) out of prison so that they can rape and torture white people. The choice was so easy that even Connecticut, Vermont, California, Illinois, New Jersey, and Maryland made the right choice.

Now Romney is no Dukakis. Not even close. Dukakis fellated the extreme fringe of his base. Romney has instead chosen to speak to pro-life, family values voters who are more concerned about competence than the embracing of an extremist agenda.

I think that Romney is a lot like George H.W. Bush. Both have New England connections. Both became pro-life as their reasoning matured. Both have opposed the expansion of gay rights. I can see points of divergence, though. George H.W. Bush learned the hard way that raising taxes is a bridge too far. Since his mistake, no Republican president has ever signed a bill that raised taxes.

George Will just likes to write things that people will talk about. He can’t seriously find enough similarities between Romney and Dukakis to make a fair analogy.

Right ON..JD

kpryan Friday, November 4th at 6:16PM EDT (link)

George Will frequently pi$$es me off when he eviscerates a Repuplican that I’ve decided is a winner…often he’s wrong. This time Mr.Damiels you’re right on the money.

R-Party better SNAP OUT OF IT!! and get focused on beating Obama in 2012. We can’t give him another term to finish us off.

For what? Romney’s flip flops? Atleast there’s no hidden surprises..no Lewinsky’s. What you see is what you get. Romney knows more about business than you’re giving him credit for…he’ll loosen regulations, keep taxes low…truth is: Eliminating obama..will be R-recover plan.

Certainty and confidence will return to the market and the economy will take off…Romney will just BE THERE when it happens.

 
 
 

Who would believe McCain and when did he become a Democrat?

sowa1 Monday, October 31st at 6:17AM EDT (link)

Any Conservative that wants to save this Country would stand with his Party and go after Obama. Ron Paul should quit and not think about running as an Independant. He would not win——God forbid, Obama would.

Perhaps you should have some coffee...

Jeff Emanuel (Diary) Monday, October 31st at 6:29AM EDT (link)

….before commenting again, because at the moment you’re just babbling nonsensically.

JE

 

Do you lose sleep over Romney's impending loss in the general election?

potato Monday, October 31st at 6:44AM EDT (link)

Any Conservative that wants to save this Country would stand with his Party and go after Obama. Mitt Romney should quit and not think about running as an Independant. He would not win——God forbid, Obama would.

Ibid

edintexas Monday, October 31st at 9:08AM EDT (link)

What Jeff said. The name change didn’t make it any better.

Thanks.

jackdaniels11 Monday, October 31st at 11:49AM EDT (link)

The trolls have been running amok lately. They all seem to be focused on stopping Romney.

 
 
 

McCain has always been a liberal Republican.

ihateliberals Monday, October 31st at 9:26AM EDT (link)

people have such a hard time understanding that just because a person is a Republican doesn’t mean they have Republican conservative values. Examples George H W bush, Bob Dole, George W Bush and now Perry, Romney and Cain. Well Cain doesn’t really know what he is. One thing to understand about Romney, there never has been a conservative from Massachusetts. If you are from there you are either a Liberal Democrat, liberal Republican or Liberal independent. The North Eastern US from Upstate New York to main are liberals Period.

 
 

Mitt Romney

bilduff45 Monday, October 31st at 6:19AM EDT (link)

Erickson states that if Romney is the candidate we should vote for him to defeat Obama. Why?
Romney is Obama in disguise. Absolutely nothing will change. Only a softer way of double dealing the American public.

What ever happened to floor nominations at the convention?
What about Buddy Roehmer? Why isn’t the RNC allowing him to have a voice?
The whole nominating process stinks. It’s a fix from the word go. The Media in cluding TV chooses the candidates and the public is supposed to accept their selections without question.
Revolution!!

Buddy Roemer? Revolution?

Wes_W Monday, October 31st at 9:39AM EDT (link)

Your tinfoil hat is on a little too tight this morning.

 

This is exactly why Obama is president today.

bloggb Tuesday, November 1st at 2:11AM EDT (link)

And why my business is in the hole.
Revolution my ass… People like you created this. Thanks for sitting at home and voting Not Present in 2008.

Now look what we got. A ham sandwich could beat Obama. But after how much destruction of the American economy?

Even if McCain were a liberalistic rino, I’d rather have him than the mess of a bank account I got right now any day.

 

On Axelrods payroll?

kpryan Friday, November 4th at 6:34PM EDT (link)

Bill:>>Romney is Obama in disguise

Are you one of Obama’s hit men from Chicago? There’s a contract out on Romney…seems Obamakins figured Romney will win R-Primary and they’re sending out operatives to ravage him before Obama gets dirty.

Are you with us or agin us?

 
 

Romney's front status is dependent on splitting conservative voters

michaelbowler Monday, October 31st at 6:26AM EDT (link)

With so many in the field, all but Huntsman far more conservative, Romney enjoys a monopoly on the moderate vote. His support will NOT exceed 30%.

When the field narrows, Romney should be out.

Go Cain!

"Go Cain" is a double-edged plea...

rsklaroff (Diary) Monday, October 31st at 7:04AM EDT (link)

…particularly noting the strong appearances of Politico on the a.m.-shows.

The regular feature @ MSNBC was bumped-up from ~6:25 to the top-of-the-hour, and Jonathan Martin then appeared @ CNN; FNC also highlighted the story, playing clips from Geraldo [and the evasion of the Cain spokesman]. Prominent was the fact that this story had been researched starting THREE WEEKS AGO, that DOZENS of people had been interviewed, and that Cain himself had been approached formally 4x…culminating in yesterday-a.m.’s rejoinder by Cain to the question “have you been accused of sexual harassment?”: “have YOU been accused of sexual harassment?”

The Cain issue will dissipate, even as the Mitt concern will remain current.

Robert B. Sklaroff, M.D.
r.sklaroff@verizon.net

[the guy with the "RS-diary" dedicated to differentiating trustworthy conservative-pundits from inside-the-beltway-RINO's]

“…fighting for Truth, Justice, and the American Way!”

A little suspicious

supergirl2911 Monday, October 31st at 1:22PM EDT (link)

I think it a tad too coincidental that Cain decides to slow down two days before this comes out

 
 

michaelbowler, please give a reason for "Go Cain!"

circlegranch Monday, October 31st at 8:46AM EDT (link)

What can we hang our hat on? He’s a motivational speaker? He’s had ambitions to be in politics, lost one race and is back again? He’s a good talk show host and makes people laugh? What’s the attraction? I’m not being snide or critical. Seriously, I need to understand.

In this, the worst economic crisis of our nation’s history and more on the horizon, in this, a time when millions that want work can’t find it, why are we supposed to line up behind someone that was successful 15 years ago in the pizza business? Mr. Cain is very inept in foreign policy. Whenever he’s asked a pointed question he can’t answer he says he’ll hire experts to advise him. He says he’ll defund Planned Parenthood but another candidate in the race has already been there and done that–no promise necessary–its been done.

I’m completely dumbfounded at the way this race is shaping up. Our #1 and #2 neither one has any applicable, real-time experience or record of jobs creation or solid resume showing hands-on, sleeves rolled up work during this Recession. We don’t seem to think that it would be a good idea to hire someone that has dealt with these issues on a daily basis (and continues to do so)? We have a very stark contrast between Obama and what our country really needs. We have one candidate with a proven record that jobs can be created and budgets can be balanced and cuts can be made in spite of Obama. Yet, we don’t think that’s an important line item on his resume? We’d rather take a chance on someone that had some success 15 years ago?

We’ve roiled over Obama’s lack of experience and reliance on scores of czar’s and Chicago thugs and far Left radicals loyal to Marx, Mao and Communism to run the country while he talks into a teleprompter. Now that we have our chance, we have 30% of Republicans falling on their swords to get Romney in, 70% saying they absolutely don’t trust or like him but that they’re relatively sure he’ll still be the nominee. It doesn’t matter if we think he’s the true conservative. After all, really important people like Ann Coulter say we can’t hold out for a conservative. We’d be better off going back to Bush era spending and politics than prop up a really strong champion for conservative values. Cain has soared because he has no typical campaign organization, and we like that about him? He bounces around selling books, getting paid to deliver speeches on stuff people are willing to pay to hear and doing weird ads, and those activities are so endearing we want to hire him? THIS is what we’ve come to in this election?

Perry put it well yesterday w/ Wallace; Obama’s economy is a Frankenstein experiment. It’s hideous and destructive and it’ll destroy all of us. Our response? Play political games of the Establishment GOP, take risky gambles with someone with no experience, make sure the next in line gets his turn because he’ll be the most eager to please the moderates and lefties in Congress?

If you can lay out a compelling, solid, non-emotional response as to why Herman Cain should be the next president, I’d love to hear it because I’ve researched the man’s positions and followed about everything he’s said and done since August and I am no closer to accepting him as being the best choice as I was when I started that exercise.

Let’s hear something other than he makes us feel good when he talks or he’s got such a wonderful personal story or he seems really sincere and commited to his country. We heard those lines a few years ago. The ‘experts’ say about 80% of Republicans still haven’t really made up their minds on a candidate and of those that have, there’s a good share willing to move to another person if compelled to do so. That means there’s a whole bunch of us that are totally dissatisfied with the argument for Herman Cain. Granted, Cain’s supporters have the love and adoration of the Fox Network on their side carrying his water, but at some point, you will have to put up solid facts and an argument so convincing few can dispute it. You need to know that Fox is doing this bidding for you so he’ll draw the teaparty vote and then ultimately deliver it to Romney. If you truly want Herman Cain to be president, you’ll have to hustle and do your sales pitch on your own. The media is friend to no man at this point.

Agreed...

intensity Tuesday, November 1st at 11:31PM EDT (link)

…Cain, with no military or executive experience, is not someone we want contesting the White House.

I humbly ask all Cain supporters to give Perry’s solid record and plans a good look.

He’s the best conservatives have to be our current politician in training commander in chief.

Perry ’2012

 
 
 

Romney is the weakest

potato Monday, October 31st at 6:47AM EDT (link)

Romney is the weakest challanger to Obama in the general election. Not only the flip flopping, though that’s certainly a part of it, but also that he’s saddled with Romneycare. It’s pretty tough to attack Obamacare when you enacted what amounts to the same thing on the state level.

If Romney gets the nomination, which he very well might, Obama wins…pretty easily, I might add. There’s a good reason why Obama isn’t hammering Romney with attacks right now, despite his lengthy frontrunner status. It’s not because he’s being nice, it’s because he’s not feeling threatened. Romney is a known entity, and known for being more or less the same thing as Obama with a worse record on gun rights. It’s hard to get people to vote for you on a platform of “I’m just like him, only worse!”

 

Never again!

swamphermit (Diary) Monday, October 31st at 7:05AM EDT (link)

Republicans and the Republican Party tricked me into voting for McCain in 2008. Never again! If Republicans cannot find better candidates than McCain and Romney, I’m voting Democrat or 3rd Party from now on.

Giving Obama another 4 years may be just what this country needs in order to move further right…

You should not be posting on Redstate

nepanyrush Monday, October 31st at 7:58AM EDT (link)

The philosophy of Redstate, to my understanding, is to support an electable conservative in the Primary and whoever the Republican nominee is in the General Election. But it certainly is not to support Obama and you state that “giving Obama another 4 years may be just what this country needs” and that if you get Romney you are “voting Democrat or 3rd Party.”

Giving Obama another 4 years and the associated mandate could be end of this nation. Two more Supreme Court justices, Obamacare made such a part of people’s lives that it will be harder to remove, government made so big that it will be harder to scale down, economy so bad and so under the control of government that we will lose Superpower status, more Czars bypassing Congress — is this what you support?

Socialism or Communism?

swamphermit (Diary) Monday, October 31st at 11:58AM EDT (link)

The nation elected a communist in 2008, which proves how far to the left America already is. “Socialism is one step from Communism.”

IMO, McCain and Romney or socialists.

Obamacare? Romney created the path for it, as Governor of Massachusetts…yes, Romney is a former Governor of the very liberal State of Massachusetts!

“Socialism is one step from Communism.”

 
 

You can take that crapola on over to the kos kids...

APA Guy (Diary) Monday, October 31st at 8:23AM EDT (link)

Giving Obama another four years will destroy our country and its economy. We work to elect conservatives here, not tank elections and hope for something better as the country crumbles before our eyes.

And aren’t you the same douche who said we should “leave Qaddafi alone” back in March?

REALLY? Leave a two-bit terrorist who murdered U.S citizens alone?

Get lost until you remove your head from your arse. Sorry to be rude and blunt, but you’re talking nonsense here.

Sharia or Qaddafi?

swamphermit (Diary) Monday, October 31st at 12:07PM EDT (link)

Sounds like you prefer Libya under Sharia Law, huh. Qaddafi had paid several fortunes, and had been cooperating with America and other western nations for at least a decade.

20,000 ground to air missiles are now in the hands of terrorists, not to mention tons of explosives (big ingredient in making IEDs), etc.

And the chemical weapons Libya is reporting today?

APA Guy (Diary) Monday, October 31st at 4:12PM EDT (link)

http://www.usatoday.com/news/world/story/2011-10-30/libya-chemical-weapons-found/51009366/1

I guess Quaddafi was just keeping them as paper weights. Of course, the new government’s Prime Minister Mahmoud Jibril must have been kidding when he told the world that he wants a peaceful and prosperous Libya.

Like I said, take your crapola and scram. Anyone who advocates for keeping that creep in power is reprehensible IMO.

Add chemical weapons now

swamphermit (Diary) Monday, October 31st at 7:56PM EDT (link)

No telling how much of those have slipped out…great, now chemical weapons on the loose!

Should’ve left Qaddafi alone…

Seriously? I think you're being snarky now...

APA Guy (Diary) Monday, October 31st at 9:09PM EDT (link)

If so, joke’s on me.

If not, remove head from arse…then comment.

The new Prime Minister of Libya is announcing to the world that the weapons are there and that they aren’t wanted in the country. That means the weapons will no longer be there and would have been had the terrorist stayed in power.

And BTW, weren’t those weapons all supposed to be gone per Qadaffi’s previous word? I guess he was just being rhetorical.

Guess we SHOULD have left Qadaffi in power…definitely…yeah…that way we’d still have a world terrorist with chemical weapons at his disposal.

Idiot…

Good plan...

swamphermit (Diary) Tuesday, November 1st at 7:38AM EDT (link)

…let’s trust the new Prime Minister of Libya, because he surely wouldn’t lie to us after we helped him establish Sharia Law.

 
 
 
 
 
 

You can take that crapola on over to the kos kids...

APA Guy (Diary) Monday, October 31st at 8:23AM EDT (link)

Giving Obama another four years will destroy our country and its economy. We work to elect conservatives here, not tank elections and hope for something better as the country crumbles before our eyes.

And aren’t you the same douche who said we should “leave Qaddafi alone” back in March?

REALLY? Leave a two-bit terrorist who murdered U.S citizens alone?

Get lost until you remove your head from your arse. Sorry to be rude and blunt, but you’re talking nonsense here.

 

Spoken like a newly recruited Rush/Hannity/Coulterite.

bloggb Tuesday, November 1st at 2:20AM EDT (link)

They didn’t trick you, they told all your friends to stay home. Your friends that stayed home tricked you – you were the only one that voted to defeat the opposition.

See above re the post where ‘Republicans eat their own’. The establishment repubicans did this in 2008. They killed the McCain / Palin ticket on purpose.

Be careful what you wish for – your statement:
“Giving Obama another 4 years may be just what this country needs in order to move further right…”

The establishment said the EXACT SAME THING back then, only then it was: 4 years of Obama may be just what this country needs in order to move further right.

It still ain’t happening.

Welcome to Obamaville, I hope you can enjoy another four years of change.

 

RiNOs like you are part of the problem (nt)

Neil Stevens (Diary) Tuesday, November 1st at 2:26AM EDT (link)

.

RS contributing editor and “a hardy variety of crabgrass.”
Read the RedState Posting Rules

Unlikely Voter: Poll Analysis, Election Projection.

“I rejoice that America has resisted.” – William Pitt, the Elder

 

This nonsense makes me SICK.

Christine (Diary) Tuesday, November 1st at 5:20AM EDT (link)

Saw some other [redacted] post the same ultimatum a few days ago and I held back on responding, but this just does it for me.

Liberals have followed a devious plan for the last 40+ years…slowly, quietly chip away at what we hold dear. They are building their fantasy world one bill at a time, one media story at a time. They controlled the media and the message. Most of us, to be quite honest,didn’t see the whole plan…or didn’t think it was going to be as successful as it was.

Now, seeing it for what it is, we’re fighting. But one segment of our group (and please God, let it be a tiny minority) somehow believes that the solution is to have our next President walk away from the podium on Jan 20, 2013, sit down and pen an Executive Order resetting our country back to the intent of the Founders. That’s a !!(*&()^% pipe dream and you fools KNOW IT…but it makes you elitist enough that you can walk in here and feed us sob stores about how you were SO FOOLED into voting for McCain and the world would be better off if Obama destroyed it.

Do you really think the last 4 years would have been worse with McCain? The ONLY benefit we got with Obama was the Tea Party…and if McCain had tried to push his RiNO agenda while in office, we still may have had a Tea Party.

Those of you who think four more years of Obama is good, because it would destroy the country and we could then rebuild it, you are fools. You said that about THIS 4 years and you were wrong. Obama is a good Marxist, and a good American liberal. He got ObamaCare in, and that was the only major thing the liberals needed. All he has to do from now until he retires to his Hawaiian paradise is continue the chip-away process and appoint a couple more extremist judges…and he will be hailed as a genius by liberals for the rest of eternity.

GROW UP. WAKE UP. We need a Republican Congress made up of good conservatives and a President who will listen to us. Then we need to hold them accountable and demand they start fixing the chips in our freedoms. I pray the repairs will not take 40 years, but if they do, at least my children will live to see their country as it should be.

The primary process is FLAWED. Two states should not decide our candidate.

“I would be a poor Commander in Chief”
– Barack Obama, July 3 2008

Fool Rush In

kpryan Sunday, November 6th at 12:24AM EDT (link)

Christine:>>Those of you who think four more years of Obama is good, because it would destroy the country and we could then rebuild it, you are fools

My sentiments exactly…. there must be a generation gap here and everywhere..I’m from NYC and the hair on the back of my neck gets electrified when I read some of these posts by liberals masquerading as Conservatives.

Anyone who thinks another 4 years of Obama isn’t as bad as a Romney presidency.. is NOT sufficiently repulsed by what Obama has done to this Country so far.

The Government is on my back…no soda or fattening foods..no flattering light bulbs/those squiggly flourescent jobs that show every wrinkle..can’t smoke in bars or restaurants…I’m doubly disgusted because I have the Nanny Bloomberg to contend with…bicycle paths screwing up traffic..the OWS pooping in the park…My god, they’re rich, college kids asking for a bigger allowance…throw them out of the city!! But no…Bloomberg feeds them like they’re homeless hobos. Sheesh..if Giulianni were Mayor they’d be arrested and fined enough to balance the budget.

Eventually people will pay attention to what Romney has to say…it’s all good. We’ll have control of the House and Senate so he can’t go rogue…maybe he’ll pick a VP that’ll soothe the savage beasts..this campaign is going to be ugly, it’s right out of the Chicago streets…R-Party has to capitalize on this opportunity of a lifetime and STOP OBAMA in his tracks..the alternative is GReece. $+:)<<

 
 
 

Obama and co. can't wait until Romney is the nominee

politicalqrm Monday, October 31st at 7:11AM EDT (link)

They know that all of this that we are reviewing now can be used successfully. All they have to do is show the American people we can’t trust Romney because he flip-flops; that you never know what his position on any given issue will be day to day. On the other hand, Dems will say, you know what Obama stands for and his beliefs are concrete.

Don’t laugh, they already have the campaign strategy set.

As for “anyone but Obama”, Romney won’t be much better. He’s Obama-lite

And to be honest: and I’ll probably get a lot of crap for this: I don’t think I can support Romney. It would be like voting for Obama.

But why, tell me why, we are settling for this swarmy mole? Are we that desperate? Here in NH he has a 20 pt lead over Cain.

Do you really think that Romney is going to be able to deal with a Mid-East that is getting ready to explode? A new Russia that is going to be a new threat militarily?

Geez, people, at least lets get someone who is more concerned with the country than keeping his hair in place and his next campaign. (I can’t have illegals working here, I’m running for office!)

 

It has been reported

redpenny Monday, October 31st at 7:17AM EDT (link)

that Newt Gingrich has thought with the “wrong head” in the past;the fact is he is the most informed and most experienced dude of the bunch of wanna a bees viey for the Repub nomination.I really don’t give a damn who he bedded in the past etc.I do care that he is a true conservative and if you look at his proposed policies (ie: taxes,spending,etc.) he has the best ideas.Regardless,anyone will be better than four more years of “OBOZZO”

Don’t bother: the moderators tossed me out on my racist posterior already.

The Newt supported the "Individual Mandate"...

rsklaroff (Diary) Monday, October 31st at 7:26AM EDT (link)

….as he was forced to concede during the last debate.

[He quibbled when claiming he endorsed the intermediary-entity – The Heritage Foundation – and that he was merely counterpointing HillaryCare.

He is an elitist/statist; Rick isn’t.

Robert B. Sklaroff, M.D.
r.sklaroff@verizon.net

[the guy with the "RS-diary" dedicated to differentiating trustworthy conservative-pundits from inside-the-beltway-RINO's]

“…fighting for Truth, Justice, and the American Way!”

Do you have a link to that.

gekster (Diary) Monday, October 31st at 7:31AM EDT (link)

That is one I havn’t heard.

They say Republicans are for the rich, Democrats are for the poor.
If they need more voters,
then they have to make more of who they are for.

We are there in the various Tea Party groups, leaderless, but not rudderless.
We steer always toward the Constitutional principles this nation was founded upon.
Erick Brockway

I’ve gone from
“Hope and Change” to
“Hopeless and Changeless”

yupper! [always glad to be of-service]

rsklaroff (Diary) Monday, October 31st at 8:18AM EDT (link)

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/10/18/us/politics/western-republican-leadership-conference-wrlc-cnn-debate-at-the-venetian-resort-hotel-casino.html?pagewanted=all

MR. ROMNEY: Actually, Newt, we got the idea of an individual mandate from you.

MR. GINGRICH: That’s not true. You got it from the Heritage Foundation.

MR. ROMNEY: Well, it was something — yeah, we got it from you and the — you — got it from the Heritage Foundation and from you.

MR. GINGRICH: No, but — well, you — well, you — (inaudible) —

MR. ROMNEY: But let me — but let me just —

MR. GINGRICH: Wait a second. What you just said is not true.

MR. ROMNEY: Well, I thought —

MR. GINGRICH: You did not get that from me.

MR. ROMNEY: I think you —

MR. GINGRICH: You got it from the Heritage Foundation.

MR. ROMNEY: And — and you’ve never — never supported —

MR. GINGRICH: I was — I agree with them, but I’m just saying what you’ve said to this audience just now plain wasn’t true. That’s not where you got it from.

MR. ROMNEY: OK. Let me ask — have you — have you supported in the past an individual mandate?

MR. GINGRICH: I absolutely did, with the Heritage Foundation, against “Hillarycare.”

MR. ROMNEY: You did support an individual mandate?

MR. GINGRICH: Yes, sir.

MR. ROMNEY: Oh, OK. That’s what I’m saying. We got the idea from you and the Heritage Foundation.

MR. GINGRICH: OK. Little broader. (Laughter.)

MR. ROMNEY: OK.

MR. GINGRICH: Keep on. I —

MR. ROMNEY: All right.

Robert B. Sklaroff, M.D.
r.sklaroff@verizon.net

[the guy with the "RS-diary" dedicated to differentiating trustworthy conservative-pundits from inside-the-beltway-RINO's]

“…fighting for Truth, Justice, and the American Way!”

 
 
 

Newt on the couch with Nancy...

gator_hoo (Diary) Monday, October 31st at 8:07AM EDT (link)

Supporting global warming anyone?

I'm curious, gator_hoo,

avgjo (Diary) Tuesday, November 1st at 4:58AM EDT (link)

do you like Tom Coburn?

Ceterum autem censeo, Obamaecuram esse delendam.

It’s the morality, stupid.

 
 
 

When can we expect to see this 200 pg Romney opposition report released?

circlegranch Monday, October 31st at 7:25AM EDT (link)

Whomever is sitting on it should release it now. Somebody has it and it’ll be dribbled out a few pages at a time but not in time. Romney fans are just like Paul fans; they refuse to believe anything negative, assuming everything is an unfair attack. The Cain-ites will be out in full force today defending him against Politico’s piece on, well, go look it up yourself. EE is right. Why, on the night before the big headlines of this morning were going to be more Romney flip flops, Romney not wanting to do a sitdown interview and get grilled on his flip flops, is this Cain story breaking? Why after Rick Perry had a very positive and successful interview with Wallace is nobody talking about it? Does Romney have more media plants beyond J. Rubin? How come Fox is reporting today that Romney has acquired more Congressional support than anybody else, yet doesn’t quantify that with also reporting that Romney is the only one in the race that has contributed to Congressional campaigns? Why is the fact that he’s paid forward for support from Congress not a headline story?

It sure is starting to look like he’s got his own version of state-controlled media. Does he have that much power already that he, like Obama, can control what is being talked about and has bombshell stories waiting in the pipeline ready to launch as soon as he needs to change the subject?

C’mon, folks. Are we going to sit here and allow all this garbage to taint the election and allow Obama another term? Where’s the tea party? Where’s the angry seniors that went to townhalls and demanded more of our system than this stuff? Mitt Romney is an East Coast Liberal. End of story. Even if we win the Senate, the 3 Amigo’s of Romney, McConnell and Boehner are not going to do the will of, We, the People. Nothing will get done. We won’t get tax reform; we won’t stop spending. Chris Wallace choked when Perry stated that yes, he’d roll back spending to the level of the 1960′s. We’re in deep trouble here! It’s going to take drastic and emergency cuts and freezes to fix this! What’s so startling about that?

The Congress has so much infighting going on right now its insane. The Establishment despises the newbie tea party members. The Left is getting away with destroying guys like Marco Rubio. There has to be a complete push-out of the weak-kneed moderates or nothing will change. Who in Congress do we hear standing in bold defense of Rubio? Nobody. They’ll stand up and defend Romney all day long, though.

The voice of the people is claiming that the likes of Herman Cain, an inexperienced, unproven entity is good enough to carry our banner. And if that doesn’t work, we’ll settle for Romney. God help us.

Agree and Disagree...

rsklaroff (Diary) Monday, October 31st at 7:35AM EDT (link)

…because you properly lament the relative-silence of the TEA Party Movement folk, but you apparently feel resigned to the inevitability of Mitt being nominated.

Elsewhere, I lamented the relative-silence of TPM-”leaders” [except, prominently, Dick Armey] who appear more focused on local-Congressional races than on forestalling the potential DEATH of the ENERGY of the TPM were Mitt nominated.

Events appear to be occurring @ warp-speed, and the potential demise of Cain must be coupled with recognition of Mitt’s overwhelming pattern of weakness, coupled by emergence of an animated/energized Rick.

This is not merely a perception of a political-junkie, for the real prospect now arises that Cain will pull-out [based on the Politico interviews this-a.m.]. Meanwhile, as the others have NO-COMMENT and “no-comment” about their NO-COMMENT statements, Cain will have a difficult time finding people such as Ann Coulter to run-interference on his behalf.

Robert B. Sklaroff, M.D.
r.sklaroff@verizon.net

[the guy with the "RS-diary" dedicated to differentiating trustworthy conservative-pundits from inside-the-beltway-RINO's]

“…fighting for Truth, Justice, and the American Way!”

Dick Armey a 'socialized' republican

uhangtight (Diary) Monday, October 31st at 12:16PM EDT (link)

is that what passes as a Texas Tea Party? Gee whiz.. God Help Us All.
Stupid Republicans, Dick Armey is no more conservative than Romney. You people are laughable.

I am voting for the Non-Obama candidate, because Republicans are just the lesser of the two evils. No matter what ‘conservative’ candidate they push in front of us. No matter what candidate they claim is the true conservative of all of the primary candidates. No this one is more conservative, no this one is and no you are all wrong this Texas Southern Democrat is really really conservative.

No perfect candidate this year Republicans? You all like the Democrat from the South, Tea Party Candidate, Texas Tea Party that is, no?

No. If I have to hold my nose and vote, Non-Obama, like every 4 years, I will. Stupid, Stupid Republicans….

If thats the way you feel,

gekster (Diary) Monday, October 31st at 2:02PM EDT (link)

then why are you on a forum that promotes conservative causes.
There are many more out there that adhear to your beliefs.
the HuffPo for one.

They say Republicans are for the rich, Democrats are for the poor.
If they need more voters,
then they have to make more of who they are for.

We are there in the various Tea Party groups, leaderless, but not rudderless.
We steer always toward the Constitutional principles this nation was founded upon.
Erick Brockway

I’ve gone from
“Hope and Change” to
“Hopeless and Changeless”

kowalski: And if we are stupid, stupid Republicans,

gekster (Diary) Monday, October 31st at 2:08PM EDT (link)

then you just insulted 85% of the people here.

They say Republicans are for the rich, Democrats are for the poor.
If they need more voters,
then they have to make more of who they are for.

We are there in the various Tea Party groups, leaderless, but not rudderless.
We steer always toward the Constitutional principles this nation was founded upon.
Erick Brockway

I’ve gone from
“Hope and Change” to
“Hopeless and Changeless”

 
 
 
 
 

Smell Test Failure!

shotpusher Monday, October 31st at 8:14AM EDT (link)

Seems pretty obvious this is a set up job from the big-money, checked pants Republicans in the RNC. They know the “little people” can not tolerate moral failures in their candidates. So low and behold! We have one right here just in time to cover up Romney’s liberal record. They want the good ole boys club of McConnell and Boehner to continue regardless of the Tea Party. They want our votes but not our candidate. Any one can sue and most business people pay to be done with it no matter how baseless the suit.

 

Insanity!

wolfeman Monday, October 31st at 8:16AM EDT (link)

I can’t believe we’ve been reduced to this. We’re still a year away from the general election, and conservatives are already all but accepting another RINO for thier candidate. We all complained last time around how we held our noses and voted for McCain because he was the lesser of two evils. Now we’re already talking about doing it again! Romney is far more pathetic than McCain was and people are talking about supporting him. If Romney is the candidate, Obama and the media will have an absolute field day with him. What happened to “Conservative Principles”? Instead of waving the white flag a year ahead of time and saying that we’ll support Romney if it comes down to it, let’s concentrate on doing everything humanly possible to make sure Romney has no chance of becoming the candidate. I’m gonna start doing just that. Today I’m going to get out the checkbook and send a donation to Herman Cain because he seems to be the closest thing to a conservative that we have to choose from.

you had better hold-off...

rsklaroff (Diary) Monday, October 31st at 8:22AM EDT (link)

…until you observe Q&A following his AEI presentation:

http://www.aei.org/event/100493

Robert B. Sklaroff, M.D.
r.sklaroff@verizon.net

[the guy with the "RS-diary" dedicated to differentiating trustworthy conservative-pundits from inside-the-beltway-RINO's]

“…fighting for Truth, Justice, and the American Way!”

 

Cain's fate is discussed elsewhere on RS

rsklaroff (Diary) Monday, October 31st at 8:35AM EDT (link)

http://www.redstate.com/erick/2011/10/30/the-oppo-dump-on-herman-cain-begins-in-earnest/#comment-138443

Robert B. Sklaroff, M.D.
r.sklaroff@verizon.net

[the guy with the "RS-diary" dedicated to differentiating trustworthy conservative-pundits from inside-the-beltway-RINO's]

“…fighting for Truth, Justice, and the American Way!”

 
 

That's all fine and well, but...

swami7774 (Diary) Monday, October 31st at 8:21AM EDT (link)

…who’s your alternative? Perry, who makes W look articulate? Cain, whose next foreign policy thought will be his first? Paul, certifiable? Bachmann, purveyor of whacko vaccine rumors?
To paraphrase Rick Pitino: Ronald Reagan isn’t walking through that door, folks. Paul Ryan isn’t walking through that door. Marco Rubio isn’t walking through that door. Not this time.
And to paraphrase a formerly-great former defense secretary: you go into an election with the candidate(s) you have.

Today, there is a name for the political doctrine that rejoices in scarcity of everything except government. The name is environmentalism.

Perry is growing into POTUS-candidate role...

rsklaroff (Diary) Monday, October 31st at 8:24AM EDT (link)

…supplanting prior “inarticulate” assumptions/characterizations.

As noted throughout this site [EE-mediated], Rick is Great AND the Others aren’t up-to-the-task.

Robert B. Sklaroff, M.D.
r.sklaroff@verizon.net

[the guy with the "RS-diary" dedicated to differentiating trustworthy conservative-pundits from inside-the-beltway-RINO's]

“…fighting for Truth, Justice, and the American Way!”

 

So you want the guy who changes positions as much and easily as this?

gekster (Diary) Monday, October 31st at 8:45AM EDT (link)

Romneys new campaign ad.

Romney: “I have always been this firm in my beliefs”.

They say Republicans are for the rich, Democrats are for the poor.
If they need more voters,
then they have to make more of who they are for.

We are there in the various Tea Party groups, leaderless, but not rudderless.
We steer always toward the Constitutional principles this nation was founded upon.
Erick Brockway

I’ve gone from
“Hope and Change” to
“Hopeless and Changeless”

 
 

Who's Supporting Romney? Why?

BigGator5 (Diary) Monday, October 31st at 8:26AM EDT (link)

I have yet to meet any of this 25% who support Romney.

Honestly, who are you people? Why do you support him?

Educated (About The Issues Facing Us Today), Dedicated (To Making A Difference), And Highly Motivated (To Getting Things Done)
@biggator5

"I can't believe Nixon won. I don't know anybody who voted for him."

Wes_W Monday, October 31st at 9:53AM EDT (link)
 

Your source "stinks"

coralchristie Monday, October 31st at 8:42AM EDT (link)

Let me get this right…McCains’ camp supplied you the information on Romney … and I suppose you trust McCain’s people because they, like him, are so very conservative?
You lost credibility with me as soon as you named the source for the information you used in your article.
I don’t think Romney is the best candidate but McCain was never even honest about his malice toward Romney. (Huckabee’s actions indicated that he felt the same way)

Then go somewhere else.

gekster (Diary) Monday, October 31st at 8:49AM EDT (link)

You don’t have to be here.

They say Republicans are for the rich, Democrats are for the poor.
If they need more voters,
then they have to make more of who they are for.

We are there in the various Tea Party groups, leaderless, but not rudderless.
We steer always toward the Constitutional principles this nation was founded upon.
Erick Brockway

I’ve gone from
“Hope and Change” to
“Hopeless and Changeless”

 

Then we should stop interrogating terrorists

tailfins1959 Monday, October 31st at 10:05AM EDT (link)

The intelligence gathered at Gitmo merely provided leads to investigate and were not taken as fact. The same can be said of clues from any adversarial source.

You have the right to quit Toxic People. (They’re contagious.) ~Dr. SunWolf

 

Dont shoot the messenger

Wes_W Monday, October 31st at 10:14AM EDT (link)

Your issue is that you dont like the facts.

 
 

The Republican John Kerry

papatriot Monday, October 31st at 8:46AM EDT (link)

“I was for this before I was against it” could as easily have been said of Romney

I bet Sam and John Adams are rolling in their graves over what has happened to their state

One other thing.
There are no conservatives running for President in the Republican Party.
Just Big Government or Bigger Government Republicans

And Ron Paul is not a viable candidate

 

Ad Wars

adamd Monday, October 31st at 9:30AM EDT (link)

As I have been saying for some time – once the ad wars begin, Romney is in trouble.

Romney was not the frontrunner in 2008 and did not get the all out assault in the ad wars.

In 1989 in NYC. Most people thought that Rudy Giuliani would win that year, then Ron Lauder spent a ton of money in the ad wars attacking him. Rudy did win the primary, but lost the general. He did win in 1993 after 4 awful years under Dinkins.

One of the big attack ads was pointing out all of Rudy’s controversial positions and flip and flops. Once it become know to Republican voters in Iowa and South Carolina and Romney was at one point recently pro-abortion and Romneycare is the blue print for Obamacare it will be all over for him.

 

I'll bite

sethellis Monday, October 31st at 9:39AM EDT (link)

We all know that the lot of you are just waiting for a Romney supporter to bash, so I’ll play the part.

I just don’t see how any of these pieces change anything. It has already been discounted. We all know that he was governor of a liberal state and compromised on conservative principles in order to govern.

I’ve had a close eye on this guy ever since he fixed the olympics here in Utah. I’m not happy about what he did in Massachusetts, but I can understand it. I still support him because I know he would be an effective president. That’s something I just can’t say for the rest of the field. His competence will lead him to the wise decisions, and the wise decisions are almost always conservative.

Conservative Principles

BigGator5 (Diary) Monday, October 31st at 9:50AM EDT (link)

Now what if he gets a liberal congress? Will he again “compromised on conservative principles in order to govern”?

That’s what we are scared of, sethellis. It’s easy to govern to the right when you have a conservative House and Senate. We worry he won’t stand up for those conservative principles if that is not the case.

Educated (About The Issues Facing Us Today), Dedicated (To Making A Difference), And Highly Motivated (To Getting Things Done)
@biggator5

Romey Not Afraid Of Congress

sethellis Monday, October 31st at 10:35AM EDT (link)

Romney’s history in Massachusetts is full of instances where he went head to head with his legislature. He used the veto often even when he knew it would be overruled. Given a liberal congress he would absolutely fight them. Much more so than Bush ever did.

The thing he is afraid of is the American people, and that’s the way it should be.

Ask the second part of the question, Seth Ellis.

acat (Diary) Monday, October 31st at 10:48AM EDT (link)

The question?

When considering an ally, there are two questions. Will he shoot? Will he aim at my enemies?

My gut tells me Romney is not my ally – not because he won’t buck Congress, but because he’s just as likely to buck the Tea Party and other Conservative elements as he is to buck Nancy Pelosi or Dick Durbin.

Mew

——
self-portrait

Caveat Suffragator

 
 
 
 

Lucky stars?

tailfins1959 Monday, October 31st at 10:00AM EDT (link)

I doubt luck has anything to do with it. I’m around socialists (not liberals) on a regular basis and they don’t seem very upset about the prospect of a Romney presidency. What if this was planned by Politico?

You have the right to quit Toxic People. (They’re contagious.) ~Dr. SunWolf

 

I'm a Romney supporter, and I agree

mindthegap76 Monday, October 31st at 10:04AM EDT (link)

I’m not dead set on Romney. I’d be open to supporting someone else if I thought there was another plausible general-election candidate. But all of our best options chose not to run or, at least in Tim Pawlenty’s case, dropped out early.

Rick Perry is probably the next best behind Romney, but it is a distant second place. Redstate has really been pushing him hard, but I’ll tell you as a born-and-raised Texan of nearly 30 years: Perry would get stomped by Obama. He’s a fantastic candidate for a deep red state like Texas that applauds secession comments, but he’s going to turn off the middle-of-the-road voters we lost in 2008. And Perry has his own history of slipping from conservative positions, such as enacting a first-ever franchise tax in Texas that is essentially a personal income tax on LLPs.

I like Herman Cain, but he needs more experience before we put him up for president. The past month of gaffes and backpedaling and clarifications reflect a candidate who is not quite ready for the prime-time spotlight.

Despite what the economy and Obama’s chances look like now, you’re kidding yourself if you think this is going to be anything other than a hard, grueling campaign to win back the White House. Any one we nominate is going to get trashed by Obama and the media, so we need to put up the person who is absolutely best able to handle it. Romney may not be the perfect conservative or even the most conservative in the race, but he is so far the only person who’s demonstrated an ability to stay on message, articulate a conservative agenda, and push forward with a relentless and meticulous campaign. Anything less, and we’re stuck with another four years of Obama.

Sorry, mis-reply

mindthegap76 Monday, October 31st at 10:06AM EDT (link)

This was supposed to be a reply to sethellis above, not a standalone comment. I meant to say I agree with him, not EE’s original post.

 
 

What Con supports Romney?

geoph Monday, October 31st at 10:10AM EDT (link)

When his support hovers at 20-25%, I’m to believe that is Conservative support? I just can not believe “Conservatives” are amongst those numbers (now let’s not begin to split hairs on what makes a Con, So-Con, Fi-Con, and my favorite, the anybodybutObama-Con?).

Perhaps my definition of conservative is too narrow. I guess I’m one of those unyielding, my way or no way, shut the government down until we fix it folk the Dems are trying to make all of the GOP labeled as (btw I’d welcome that – so come on board!). I supported Christine O’Donnell’s run for 2010. I liked much of her platform, but even what I did not like – I was willing to get behind. She gave “us” a true alternative to the socialist the Dems ran and the Liberal the GOP supported. If a Leftist Agenda is to be advanced in this Nation, who I consider “Conservatives” have agreed that we will not be a part of it. We won’t vote barely to the Right of the Dems Left any longer. We will not provide cover for Lefty again. 2008-2010 is the model we prefer. Liberals owned the agenda and everything wrong with it, just as these Executive Orders are theirs and theirs alone. We note that we won the 2010 elections, yet the only “Conservative” action since was in the “Lame Duck” session of the 111th Congress. We hate the Boehner Leadership.
We believe we are at the tipping point; that our finances are in crisis NOW; that our sovereignty is faltering NOW; that our prestige and power is collapsing NOW! We believe that an abrupt and severe change in course is all that can save this Nation; that minor tweaks to our behavior still lead us over the edge. Some of us look at our not to distant future and see the great Nation we knew is gone. That’s why it is easy for us to be unyielding. We see it just that clearly, and Romney is not a drastic change from Obama.

 

Curious.

Marcus_Traianus (Diary) Monday, October 31st at 10:45AM EDT (link)

If Romney becomes the nominee, how do we sell our lack of support now…you know, given the vast articulation of negatives above, which consequently aligns with Democrat talking points unveiled this weekend- with our eventual support for him as our nominee? If that happens, of course.

Oh and where is the brief side-by-side comparison of our nominees jobs plans? Economic plans? Who has the better plan? What can we sell to an otherwise disengaged electorate, many of whom are looking for jobs and suffering economically? Because I am thoroughly confused by all of this. You know, with all this dwelling on the past and such.

Please don’t tell me this is all part of Mr. Romney’s vetting, which makes him better and more bulletproof for the general election. And no, Romney is not my first choice.

Oh and John McCain’s opposition research? Yes. Because we know how well that turned out for John McCain.

“Both of our political parties, at least the honest portion of them, agree conscientiously in the same object—the public good; but they differ essentially in what they deem the means of promoting that good. One side believes it best done by one composition of the governing powers; the other, by a different one. One fears most the ignorance of the people; the other, the selfishness of rulers independent of them. Which is right, time and experience will prove.”.Thomas Jefferson

 

Romney IS A RERUN OF WHAT GOT US HERE

cbond01 Monday, October 31st at 10:54AM EDT (link)

Over200 years of reruns have gotten the American people over $16,500 000 000,000.00 in debt. Do you think they are doing a good enough job to keep the same old two party system alive and well? America needs a party of the people and vote out 95% of congress and 99% of the working parts of Washington that get the two parties agenda done. Both parties and the so called news media put out their propaganda to destroy anyone that tries to change what they have . Obama’s ( socialist ) change IS NOT the peoples will ( the Obama new world order ). If the American people knew their true history and the constitution and do their research for the truth,they would see through all the smoke and propaganda to elect the only one running on his RECORD for president that would do the American peoples will 100%. That person is RON PAUL……Do not judge without sifting through all the propaganda, hear say, opinions and get facts only. Judge not that you be not Judged…….Charles of Waveland, MS.

 

He has been making me very uneasy

WY_Cowboy (Diary) Monday, October 31st at 10:57AM EDT (link)

lately, especially with his flip-flop on the Ohio ballot measures. The crisis I find myself in is finding a candidate who can win the nomination and govern effectively as president being guided by conservative principles. The fight is not just for the nomination, but the White House and all of the responsibilites that go with it.

9-9-9 has absolutley no chance of becoming law, and I would oppose the sales tax as long as there is a national income tax. Tax reform is possible and I would say probable.

Rick Perry on the surface is almost ideal, except the more you watch him, the less impressive he is. The fact that he was so tone deaf about the birth certificate issue convinces me he can’t effectively carry the conservative banner. Conservatives are used to being on the defensive in Washington, but we need one who can lead the fight. I’m not sure Perry has it in him.

It makes me angry that so many conservatives have decided to pass on this election – one in particular is Paul Ryan. But, if they don;t have the fire in the belly, to heck with them.

Bachmann, Gingrich, Santorum??

That leaves Mitt Romney and that is a crying shame. I think many conservatives hope that once he gets into the White House, he’ll understand where is bread is buttered and govern as a conservative. The problem with that is hope is not a real strategy and we are almost guaranteed to be disappoined.

Is it too late for another candidate? I think it probably is. If it isn’t, who could it be?

Wait, cowboy. You don't like Perry, who is engaging the media...

acat (Diary) Monday, October 31st at 11:03AM EDT (link)

taking the hits – and if you read what Perry actually said in the Parade piece there’s no doubt he’s no birfer – and doing the heavy lifting of releasing and defending actual plans…

…but are just now starting to get nervous about Romney, who hasn’t sat down and done an interview to hostile press in years?

Seriously?

Mew

——
self-portrait

Caveat Suffragator

Seriously.

WY_Cowboy (Diary) Monday, October 31st at 11:30AM EDT (link)

The more you learn about Romney, the more nervous you become.

Sure, if you read what Perry said, you can see his is no birther. However, he brought it up when he was rolling out his plan. That’s incompetent. All he had to say was, “Of course Barack Obama was born in the US. This is a non-issue.” That’s all he had to say, and he didn’t.

I disagree, cowboy. I stand by my assessment at the time.

acat (Diary) Monday, October 31st at 11:40AM EDT (link)

A normal campaign messages carefully, releases one thing, waits a while, then releases the next. Reminds me of a kiddygarden teacher. Why should Perry play along with that?

His energy and tax plans will be out there for the world to see, complete with outside reviews (including several here on Red State) should he come up in the polls and people start taking a second look. They aren’t, by themselves, going to get him that second look. Why message them?

His statement on the birth certificate resonated with a group who – for whatever reason – are emotionally invested in that issue and moves them toward a favorable view of him – and gets under Obama’s skin. “Punching up”, hitting at Obama, is a good thing to message on, even if it’s around the “illogic” of the birfers.

If Perry comes up in the polls, this’ll all look just fine in the rear-view. If he doesn’t come up in the polls, then it doesn’t matter anyway.

Mew

——
self-portrait

Caveat Suffragator

You are right about that.

WY_Cowboy (Diary) Monday, October 31st at 12:01PM EDT (link)

If he doesn’t come up in the polls, it doesn’t matter.

With all there is to hit Obama with, the birth certificate issue was the best he could come up with at the time? Really? Punch up, yes! Punch up with the birther issue, it makes him look not serious and I think the evidence is coming in. Since he released his plan, he is still languishing in the middle of the pack.

I have to say, I was excited when Gov. Perry entered the race. I thought he had the right combination of experience and philosophy. He still does, but he apparently doesn’t understand the game in which he is participating. That’s my problem with him now.

Permit me to state the obvious, cowboy.

acat (Diary) Monday, October 31st at 12:14PM EDT (link)

I think Perry has a better handle on this than you. No offense intended.

The general election is a year away. Iowa is over 2 months out. After that point, nobody will be worried about the birther pander.

I have no doubt Perry will be punching up on other issues in the meantime.

Mew

——
self-portrait

Caveat Suffragator

 
 
 
 
 
 

Let me see if I get this right

hbeeinc Monday, October 31st at 11:14AM EDT (link)

Romney is horrible because he’ll say anything to get elected but if he’s the nominee you’ll swallow your principals and vote for a candidate you despise and don’t trust. Is that correct?

Yes. Better to support someone you are not sure of

davesinsanantonio (Diary) Tuesday, November 1st at 11:01AM EDT (link)

than Obummer who has proven himself to be hell bent on the destruction of this country and of every liberty you still enjoy!

What principles will we have left to be able to swallow after four more years of the destroyer-in-chief???

 
 

Hey Chris Wallace,

defendtherepublic Monday, October 31st at 11:57AM EDT (link)

if you get that interview with Romney finally,

ask him if he likes to drive an automatic or if he prefers to shift himself.

 

There is No Daylight Between Romney & Obama

carolynr Monday, October 31st at 1:52PM EDT (link)

This is why Conservatives do not want him in office and if he is elected, he will cave to the liberal ideology and the GOP will fall the same way as the Whigs…in fact, the entire country will fall.

Perry might not be great a debates…flubbed a little when trying to say that Romney was a flip flopper…but I got the message, although I already knew it.

I care about policies. I like Perry’s entire economic plan.. AND IT IS NOT STEVE FORBES ORIGINAL PLAN. I like the cap. I like the energy plan that fills the hiatus before the bucks come back in. The energy plan creates jobs and has a ripple effect few have even thought about….and that does not even touch the flat tax…which anyone can understand…unlike Herman’s that uses apples and oranges as a metaphor…but no specifics.

We want private sector jobs in the USA. Perry has the record…the rest do not.

 

Perry, Gingrich then Cain all make for better

Juggernaut (Diary) Monday, October 31st at 8:31PM EDT (link)

candidates than ORomney.

O he can’t make up his mind

O he can’t stop flip flopping

O he can’t remember what he said years, months or even days ago.

O he reminds me of Obama.

O we’ve got time to bury this guy because he’s a RINO with liberal leanings and everyone on this site knows it. Dems will eat this choad alive and they will own him which will lead to more entitlement spending.

Will Romney raise taxes??? No one could say no for sure.

Romney should be nominated as Secretary of State

RomneyCare is Right Wing Socialism –

Romney “severely conservative”? That’s the opposite of a “compassionate conservative” like George W. Bush? Actually, we know what a severely conservative is. It’s Dick Cheney and Mitt Romney is no Dick Cheney.