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This Actually Makes the Cain Campaign Look Worse

By: Erick Erickson (Diary)  |  November 2nd, 2011 at 05:06 PM  | 

RESIZE: AAA

We have the response from the Cain campaign. It’s all Rick Perry’s fault. Or rather, it is Rick Perry’s consultant Curt Anderson who is to blame.

And Chris Wilson, who says he knows about it because of his time at the National Restaurant Association, works for a Perry Super PAC.

Curt Anderson was Herman Cain’s strategist when he ran for the Senate.

So let’s get this straight.

Herman Cain has at least ten days notice from the Politico. Curt Anderson was only hired by Perry in the last week, i.e. after the Politico had the story.

He also knows his former strategist was a Romney guy in 2008 and now is definitely not on Team Cain for 2012.

He also knows that Anderson knows about this stuff.

And he still can’t come up with a measurable response when the story finally comes out?

Even more damaging, I think, is when people tie it all together. Herman Cain’s consultant from 2004 uncovered it in 2004 and Cain launched a Presidential bid in 2011 without coming up with a damage control plan on a major issue that could destroy his campaign?

(Never mind that Herman Cain says he only told Curt Anderson about one woman)

And now there is a third woman?!?

What. The. Hell.

UPDATE:
In response to Cain calling him the source of the story, Curt Anderson made this statement:

“I’ve known Herman Cain for about 7 years. I was one of several consultants on his Senate race in 2004 and was proud to help him. I’d never heard any of these allegations until I read them in Politico, nor does anything I read in the press change my opinion that Herman is an upstanding man and a gentleman. I have great respect for Herman and his character and I would never speak ill of him, on the record or off the record. That’s true today and it’s not going to change.”

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  • clintonformccain

    hour.

    Thank god we have the best President ever and the country is doing fantastic under his leadership and the Republicans never had a realistic shot of beating him or taking over the Senate in November 2012, huh. I mean, it would really suck if they were actually screwing up a good shot with this bunch of clowns.

  • jackdaniels11

    I never believed that Cain had the organizational skills to manage an Iowa, New Hampshire, Florida, and South Carolina campaign simultaneously, let alone deal with the Obama spin machine.

    This should make for a good SNL skit. The won that I wish existed in 1992 when a certain Arkansas governor had to deal with the allegation that he had had an affair with a mistress named Ginnifer Flowers for 14 years.

  • onemovoter

    Than blaming the message… or others for leaking info on something that happened?

  • izoneguy

    Cain Says Perry Camp Behind Sex Harassment Leak

    Aside from knowing about the alleged sexual harassment accusations, Cain campaign officials point to the timing of Anderson?s hiring by Perry as evidence of his involvement. The campaign announced Anderson?s role on October 24, just a week before Politico broke the story.

    So didn’t the Cain campaign say that Politico told them 10 days about
    the story before it broke? So Perry would have hired Anderson AFTER
    Cain knew the story would drop? What is Cain saying that Anderson went
    to Perry and then Perry leaked the story and THEN hired Anderson?
    It just does not add up. Looking at Cain’s Perry hating history I guess
    he thinks he has nothing to lose by going after the guy with the
    Ni**erhead Rock?
    This is Cain’s “WTF” moment and I don’t mean winning the future.

  • http://www.baseballcrank.com Dan McLaughlin

    …you know, everybody has their turncoats, but that’s some big people from Cain’s very short political past who prefer to support another candidate, isn’t it?

  • bzip

    I have had it with Cain. Cain isn’t qualified. he wants to blame everyone for his gaffes and failures. Cain – oh it was a joke, or I didn’t understand now he wants to blame his failures on Perry.

    Cain can stick a cane where the sun doesn’t shine

  • http://www.nighttwister.com NightTwister

    There’s a reason I have a real problem with amateurs…

  • clintonformccain

    What is Cain saying that Anderson went
    to Perry and then Perry leaked the story and THEN hired Anderson?
    It just does not add up.

    Nothing else Cain has said has ever made a lick of sense: not on abortion, not on China, not on releasing GITMO prisoners, not on any other topic. Why should this be any different?

  • onemovoter

    Says > Initially conservative blogs were quite sympathetic to Cain’s side of the story but that’s not true any longer.

    Links to > http://spectator.org/blog/2011/11/02/cain-in-trouble

  • izoneguy

    Iowa radio host accuses Herman Cain of ‘inappropriate’ remarks

    Deace, who penned an opinion piece critical of Cain earlier this month, told POLITICO in an email that Cain said “awkward” and “inappropriate” things to the staff at his station.
    “Like awkward/inappropriate things he’s said to two females on my staff, that the fact the guy’s wife is never around…that’s almost always a warning flag to me,” Deace wrote. “But I chose to leave that stuff out [of the opinion piece] and make it about his record and not the personal stuff.”

  • clintonformccain

    China has had nukes for over fifty years doesn’t mean he shouldn’t be President!

  • gator_hoo

    So according to all accounts, Politico got the story 10 days before they broke it. They broke it on Sunday, October 30.

    They claim that Perry is responsible, because he hired a former Cain staffer. That hire was made on Monday, October 24.

    So the Cain camp, which was made aware by Politico of the story BEFORE Perry hired a former Cain consultant, has now accused Perry of leaking that info to Politico through the staffer Perry had yet to hire.

    If I were Perry, I would put that time machine to better use.

  • gator_hoo

    If he is going to drag all of the candidates down with him, nuts to him.

  • gator_hoo

    I was writing the same

  • supergirl2911

    on the Five just said that the person who replaced Cain as CEO of the NRA was a donor to the Romney campaign. I would not have thought of the link but read a comment on RS two days ago that said to cross reference campaign donors to NRA folk.
    HE said Romney
    Dana Perino freaked out, in my opinion more than she did over Cain blaming Perry.She said you better be sure before you say that.

  • jonerik

    There is a decided air of desperation about Cain right now. Its like that quiet moment before an explosion, an brief microsecond when everything freezes…and then BOOM!

    As you point out, the timing doesn’t add up. It comes across as a slander by Cain about Perry.

  • proud2btexasmom

    For Mr Cain to accuse Gov Perry of this he best have proof. If not, I pray his campaign goes by the wayside. If he has proof.. he needs to bring it forward now. If he doesn’t…. well, I can just say DON’T MESS WITH TEXAS!

  • Wes_W

    I had to deal first hand with the Dan Maes train wreck. The Cain campaign is starting to develop some similar patterns.

  • bzip

    Let me get this straight – Cain has a serious problem in his past and NOW in his present. He is running for the POTUS and is in the top tier.

    He is being vetted. Cain played the race card and now is playing the blame game – he blames Perry for exposing him (which there is no proof of and not likely to be).

    He seems to blame everyone and anything for his failures.

    GOP pollster makes Herman Cain accusation
    http://www.politico.com/news/stories/1111/67473.html

    Iowa radio host accuses Herman Cain of ‘inappropriate’ remarks
    http://www.politico.com/news/stories/1111/67478.html

    Please STEP DOWN NOW CAIN! You are a embarrassment!

  • Scope

    and he has no evidence of that either.

  • tailfins1959

    Cain is listed as a 5.5% chance of being the nominee, while Newt is at 5.9%. Anyone who thinks liberals are manipulating Intrade can bet the opposite and make a nice profit. It’s strange that Romney is near 70%. If you short it and Romney loses you can triple your money.

    I’m not advertizing here, I’m just saying its numbers have value.

  • izoneguy

    He worked for the Navy as a rocket scientist during
    the Vietnam war and had to calculate how far
    China could launch a nuke….

    That is not the issue right now.
    Cain is finding out the hard way that
    being “smart” will only get you so far.

    You have to be honest & forthcoming as well.

    America has already elected one con man as President,
    we don’t need to repeat that mistake.

  • thirstyboots

    on October 24th and announced the hire on the same day?

    Maybe you believe in that, but normal people won’t. That Fabrizion/Anderson bunch that worked for Rick Scott in FL had been talking to Perry for awhile – he was the only candidate with money and free positions to hire them.

  • Scope

    and speaking about Cain’s apparent sexual harassment problems. Unless he can prove that every single one of them have some ties to Perry, he looks even more the loose lipped racist accuser himself.

  • Scope

    7.5% yesterday, which was still lower than about 12.5% for Perry.

  • omegamale

    Yet that didn’t stop “Rick State” from insinuating it was Romney.

    Perry had the most to gain from any sort of takedown of Herman Cain, if any campaign wanted to try and destroy Cain it would be Rick Perry. Romney would have the most to lose from Cain no longer appearing viable.

    Now Cain is rightfully pointing out that it was Perry’s campaign that brought this whole nasty episode to life.

    Perry’s finished, the grassroots will rightfully make him a pariah for playing such nasty politics and using the liberal media to destroy a black conservative.

  • tjms

    he has already made clear (previously) his feelings about Gov.Perry. so IF he does end up dropping out he would need Romney to “help” him out like Pawlenty.

  • Spartan4Life

    The fact that Cain ever had any support has already been used to make Conservatives and the Tea Party look unserious.

    C’mon, folks, did you really think this guy had Leader of the Free World cred?

    Still think the field is weak but how some people landed on Herman Cain is a head scratcher to me.

  • Scope

    even without the greek styrofoam columns.

  • bzip

    Look goof ball: CAIN NEEDS TO STEP DOWN NOW!

    Cain is an embarrassment

  • gator_hoo

    No idiot would give away all of their opposition research before they were hired by a campaign, and the campaign wouldn’t hire them if they did.

  • tailfins1959

    I don’t like this scandal simply because there is the risk of ALL the GOP candidates being deemed unacceptable by the public. We need as many players on the team as we can where the “MVP” becomes the nominee. I don’t like to see any of the candidates have their nose broken with the ball.

  • bzip

    Cain is a complete embarrassment, an embarrassment to the conservatives and an embarrassment to the African American community (remember they were brainwashed).

    Cain needs to step down, period.

  • gator_hoo

    He developed fire control systems for ships and fighter planes.

  • clintonformccain

    been able to stop the rise of the seas.

  • snowshooze

    And Anderson now works at the Perry Camp?
    Is that correct?
    I think a hit job would best fit Romney.. and Anderson may well have an allegence to the Romney Camp as he is a contributor.
    Plus, if he and Cain had a good relationship, I would wonder why he wasn’t still working there.
    But this is all speculation. Work is where you find it, and your personal beliefs are outside your professional life. Mostly. Usually. Sometimes. Something like that.
    So it is obvious to me exactly where Anderson stands.
    He has to be a Romney man because he is in three camps at once.. too much time around the big flipper.
    I don’t believe that it reflects on anyone at this particular moment more than Cain himself, who needs to deal with it.
    I do not envy the task, even if he is as pure as driven snow, this sort of allegation is difficult to handle eloquently.
    If he is in the clear, he best come out guns blazing and stomp this out.
    If he is dirty, he should’a paid them off real good.

  • uhangtight

    Exactly. Let me see having hired and fired folks, it takes more than 10 days elapsed time to begin the hiring process and then the actual ‘start date’. I know everyone on this site is in it for Perry. But, you guys are laughable.

    Southern Democrat does a flip-flop to run for Governor of Texas. Is touted as the greatest Politician ever and all he did was not screw up the Policies put in place by the prior Governor and Legislatures.

    (By the way a Southern Democrat is a Northeastern Republican.) This guy is more like LBJ every day. And, without any proof the comment folks claim it is Romney. Because a former NRA donated money. Seriously? As I have stated in the comments, this Petty Perry is a LBJ clone. That makes him untrustworthy as he will do anything to win.

    This site has sullied itself and is losing its reputation in my eyes. We will see just who leaked, but I do think that Cain has a better idea of who leaked this than any of you on this site. The Perry person ‘is a witness’ of sorts and is most likely the person behind the article.

    Have a good day as you watch both Cain and Perry campaigns implode.

  • Tbone

    Cain may be more conservative than Obama but personally he is just scum just like Obama.

    He needs to be run out of the race now.

  • red_oakster

    That’s a pretty short view of history.

  • gator_hoo

    If you are going to come here, insult everyone, and follow it up with unsubstantiated allegations against a candidate, you don’t belong here.

  • center77

    get serious and support Perry now. Newt cannot beat Romney. The angry Rick is a loser (sorry don’t like him), Bachmann, well how does red state put that, Bachmann will not be the nominee, Paul, well come one, Paul. Its Perry people, just deal with it, or deal with Romney. Gooosh.

  • gator_hoo

    sorry tailfins, I misplaced my reply

  • earlgrey

    this seems to indicate the Cain is pefectly qualified to replace Obama.

  • acat

    is an authentic African American. Obama’s a poseur.

    You’re judging Cain a tad ahead of the facts here.

    Mew

  • uhangtight

    calling someone an idiot is going a little far. how many times have you hired or fired someone? do you realize that the Perry person is a ‘witness’ to the behavior’? and it is just a coincidence he is now working for perry. do you think the hiring process took 48 hours? or 4 days? or maybe they were talking for a few weeks and meetings, etc.? which is the usual process for hiring a professional. never have I been engaged for an interview and hired in less than 10 days, as a professional. Salary and other negotiations aside just the interview process took at least 2-3 weeks. i know everyone is in the tank for perry, but name calling is just pathetic.

  • supergirl2911

    it will be buried on page 6. He needs to apologize to Perry often and loudly if he is wrong.

  • uhangtight

    Watching both Rick Perry and Cain Campaigns implode….
    no way …

  • beach91

    that you have that says Perry is behind the leaks. Inquiry minds want to know.

    Actually Romney has the most to gain so your assertion is wrong to begin with.. Romneybot..

  • lightspeed

    for women, according to Anita Dunn, quote, ?this place would be in court for a hostile workplace. .?.?. Because it actually fit all of the classic legal requirements for a genuinely hostile workplace to women.? But I guess this is a much more important story that that. Such hypocrisy.

  • gator_hoo

    I said “no idiot would give away all of their opposition research before they were hired.” and they wouldn’t.

    I didn’t call anyone an idiot, I did say that before the money is in the pocket, you don’t give out your information. You also don’t badmouth a former campaign, because you know that guy is going to be hired by other campaigns in the future, and if he is giving bad info about them, he is going to give bad info about you.

    It doesn’t matter if the hiring process started earlier or not, no money in pocket means no candy.

  • beach91

    your evidence that Perry is behind this. Otherwise you are the ‘laughable’ one. Also would like to see your articles or links showing the LBJ clone assertion. Another Romneybot

  • supergirl2911

    is the smoking guy head of Cain campaign. Reads a statement saying Perry’s name three times blaming him. Is about to cry, visibly and audibly shaken. Says it again.
    Then (dumb) says he hopes that this is not the story of the hour.
    No matter who did what, he (and Cain) have just guaranteed that the story will live on.

  • sethellis

    I love how when Cain talks about who he thinks the source is we call it slander, but when bloggers here do the same we call it informed speculation.

    Can we we all agree to just stop speculating on who it was until there is hard evidence? Otherwise we will all look awfully stupid if proven wrong.

  • lightspeed

    We don’t want Romney or Perry. Not that we really want any of the others either. If Cain can’t put this behind him, my vote goes to Newt. Perry is going nowhere. A lot of Cain support will go to Newt, I think. Man, never thought I would be voting for Newt. Talk about holding your nose.

  • tjms

    like without any proof you just accused Gov. Perry.

  • uhangtight

    Could have potentially or leaked the story to Politico…
    http://hotair.com/archives/2011/11/02/ap-third-woman-comes-forward-to-accuse-cain-of-harassment/

    implosion of both camps…in 5, 4, 3, 2..

  • runner12

    NT

  • gator_hoo

    1) What consultant would leak bad information about a candidate who used to work for before he was hired and had money in his pocket?

    2) What campaign would hire that guy, knowing that there is a good chance he will leak your bad info in the future?

    3) What campaign would hire that guy knowing you he already gave you his goods?

  • runner12

    heading a super-pac to elect Perry. That is not the same as working on his campaign. Get your facts straight.

  • jakeofalltrades

    nt

  • jakeofalltrades

    https://www.rickperry.org/donate/

  • izoneguy

    So what if Perry leaked the story?

    Politics ain’t beanbag

    Perry was not the one who was accused of doing something -
    it was Mr. Candy Cain.

    Mr. Candy Cain has no less than three and possibly 2 more women
    saying Cain said stuff to them that – frankly a married man should
    not be saying…..

    Mr. Candy Cain says it was old stuff and it went away – well just the other
    day he was at a radio station talking smack to some young ladies….

    Did Rick Perry make Mr. Candy Cain say and do all these things?
    Next Mr. Candy Cain will be saying that Rick Perry “brainwashed”
    him.

    Mr. Candy Cain is full of himself. All the Candy Cain supporters
    can say it’s racist to pile-on the Candy Man. At this point the Candy Cain
    supporters are not much different than the Obama supporters of 2008.

    It’s 2 months to Iowa – I don’t think the Candy Cain tracks will reach
    that far.

  • gator_hoo

    is to do it on the record and by going to the press. Nicely done!

  • tjms

    I think Bachman would have the most to gain from this. She could take out Cain and then knowing he would blame Gov. Perry have a shot of taking him out as well.

  • runner12

    of Cain. To watch his chief of staff go on Fox and accuse the Perry camp of leaking this story with absolutely no proof is disgusting.

    Cain’s chief of staff could not answer Brett Baier’s questions when he asked him to cite his proof. Baier pointed out Anderson’s statement, denying any imvolvement, and Cain’s chief of staff claimed Mr. Anderson was lying.

    Really? I seriously doubt that Mr. Anderson would lie about that. He is not new to politics and knows that the Politico could tank him if they wanted to for lying.

    Regarding Mr. Wilson, he has refused to tell details out of respect for the victims when approached by the media. I doubt that he had bent those scruples earlier to leak it to Politico. He was only aware of one incident. He is not a member of the Perry campaign, but he is leading a super-pac to raise money to elect him.

    This is bad for Cain and bad for the country. By this stupid stunt, his campaign has turned a very important election into a three ring circus.

  • pttx333

    because it just isn’t his style or who he is. I didn’t learn of this until just now and am absolutely appalled that anyone would suggest such a thing! How can a person go on national TV and blatantly throw out such crapola to see if it sticks? Actually, this smacks of someone else – if you know what I mean.

    This is absolutely dirty, filthy shenanigans that are going to roll some heads – I HOPE! Dammitall!!!!!

  • sunshinek67

    the same inappropriate language/behavior. Caintrain derailment with reported casulaties~

  • bzip

    Good idea, I will donate again.

    Support Perry during these times of Cain smearing Perry.

    Cain is trying to deflect all his failures onto Perry in hopes it will become Perry’s problem.

    Cain needs to drop out now, he in an embarrassment.

  • gator_hoo

    Most of them are just hating on Perry for doing it without any evidence that he did anything, and moreover, the story connecting him with the allegation makes no sense.

  • jakeofalltrades

    This Anderson fella would have had a contract with any campaign he wanted with that kind of oppo.

  • beach91

    HATE politics! So now what is the real truth for Cain?

  • gator_hoo

    Is someone who has less organization and feet on the ground than most of the second-tier candidates.

  • pttx333

    than to accuse Perry of being an LBJ clone! Are you out of your mind? Were you even alive when LBJ was around? PUT IT TO REST!!!!!!!

  • sunshinek67

    Thought RS was against puerile trolls that use “u” & “r” as substitutes for actual English words. Apparently this one didn’t get the memo~

  • jakeofalltrades

    Is your complaint against Perry due to his polling, Gardasil, immigration, or what? I’m not gonna argue – just curious.

  • bzip

    Cain just made it that much worse by trying to smear someone else.

    Cain is a moron.

  • jakeofalltrades

    Because I know you didn’t just flame everyone.

  • explodinghead

    The Iowa conservative radio host who has weighed in today to say that Cain used inappropriate language with his female staff show that Cain has not realized that everything he says or does as a Presidential candidate will be scrutinized with a fne tooth comb. It seems he may have a problem with being overly familiar.
    This problem is entirely of Cain’s own making and his behavior and his response to questioning of that behavior.
    I am not going to blame the Romney, the Perry or the Bachmann campaign for leaking this information. There is no definitve proof that any GOP campaign was involved. The people over at Politico are laughing their rears off as the Conservatives stand in a circular-firing squad and attack each other again, without any evidence.
    Cain needs to apologize to the Perry campaign for blaming them without any proof whatsoever. The ultimate blame lands on Cain, he should have been prepared to deal with this as he knew of it before anyone incuding his campaign manager.

  • sayoung80913

    Cain came out and said he had no knowledge of any sexual harassment complaints, then he said there was no settlement, then back tracked and said yes I in fact do recall one incidence but no settlement, then says there was an “agreement” not a settlement and now says in 2004 he told Anderson about both cases for oppo research? First he tried it was “a long time ago and I don’t remember” and now fast forward to 2004 and he recalls just tonight that he told the guy who happens to be working for Perry(strange that he’s not working for Cain isn’t it?) all about both cases? WHO IS LYING HERE? No one but Cain and who cares who leaked it, although I doubt it was Perry, if he was posing as something he wasn’t in this case-what ELSE was he merely posing as? FOOL!

  • beach91

    but this is pure ‘inexperience’ on the part of Cain and hopefully his poll numbers will slide as a result. Apparently Cain did not get the memo about protecting the Republicans otherwise known as Reagan’s rule? Or something like that.

  • sayoung80913

    in the last few days he went from absolutely not, to maybe, to okay yes but no “settlement” to a small settlement to now, yeah I remember, in 2004 this dude was in m y campaign and I told him all about it because it was the right thing to do-he sounds just like Weiner, and in my experience being a woman who has been harrassed to the point of filing a stalking report,once might be a happenstance, twice a coincidence but thrice is enemy action-get over yourself Cain and quit blaming everyone but yourself!

  • ajdx3

    to Obama. This is more than just intra-party squabbling. It it damaging the message by not focusing on it. Too bad. 4 More Years is looking more and more likely.

  • Scope

    She has been on the attack against Perry from the first debate. He entered the race on the same day as her big Ames straw poll day. She went so overboard with her mental retardation claims with the Gardasil issue, she flew to the bottom of the pack. She has very recently claimed that it was someone from the Perry camp that incited the Tea Party guy to ask her to leave the race. She has claimed that Perry stole her Tax plan. I want to seriously think she doesn’t have the support or resources to get back in the top, but, a false leak here or there doesn’t cost much.

  • bzip

    You can thank Cain, his sex scandal and now he is making it even more alive by accusing the Perry campaign.

    Cain is the one that it centers around and has to answer for his scandals – nobody else.

  • circlegranch

    Maes was supposedly coming out w/ a book about his foray into the political realm and said he was going to ‘name names’. Never heard anymore about it. That was another case where there was dirty laundry in the basket but those bringing it forward were the ‘leakers’ and villians.

    FYI for followers of the defeat of CO’s Prop 103 yesterday, it wasn’t just the majority saying ‘enough’ on education spending, it was the knowledge that the money would simply go in the General Fund and no guarantee at all that it would be spent on public education.

  • bzip

    Cain continues to lie, Cain has been caught how many times lying. Call it gaffes, call it walking back – I call it lying.

    Cain is a liar, he is am embarrassment.

  • tjms

    still has Dick Morris in her back pocket as well as others I am sure. I just have to ad that she also said that Perry stole her energy plan when it came out.

  • Scope

    is so absolutely so damaging to the entire GOP nomination. So Cain creates a circus, he blames Perry for the leak with no evidence at all, and he ultimately helps Romney.

    Germ Cain, please exit the stage before you do any more damage to the Republican brand. I doubt Germ could have orchestrated this better. They had 10 days to respond to the roll out of the news. That’s a whole long time to communicate with the Romney team.

  • jakeofalltrades

    of sexually harassing these women, then I don’t think it’s fair for him to get any blame, either.

  • streiff

    Cain look like a choir boy.

  • bzip

    That is the Cain Train or should I say the Cain Smear Train, what an embarrassment Cain is.

  • newagegop

    Cain, Newt, Perry, Bachman pick a conservative after all the debates and firestorms and let’s beat Obama. If Cain makes it thru then you’ve got a tougher candidate. If he collapses then look to another conservative. It’s not about the name. It’s about the principles. Except for Romney he doesn’t have any.

  • lizcarter

    Cain to female employee…”On a scale of 1-10, you’re a 9-9-9!”

  • Scope

    we have to elevate every not Romney for a thorough vetting, to display every GOP candidates horrible records, before we finally settle on someone. Let’s make sure that every GOP candidate is so completely taken through the mud that the GOP has noting but crap running in this election. Now we will go through the Newt vetting, and it won’t be pretty. When the brilliant Republicans/conservatives are done with the firing squad, there will be no candidate left without bullets, just short of hitting the heart or brain.

  • dave72

    Who is the complainant, Anita Hill?

  • sayoung80913

    WHAT? Did Cain think it would be more “gentlemanly,more good ole boys club” if the other candidates had agreed in advance not to bring this kind of stuff up? Just sexual peccadilloes is all, not a thing to do with his style of governance-which BTW- we haven’t seen any of yet. Think back and ask yourself, in your work history, can you recall a man being charged with NUMEROUS case of harassment and not deserving it? I know I can’t, the one guy I was forced to file a stalking charge against was a well known skeezeball, and yet my company just refused to fire him anyway. I had to quit to get away from him and move to another state. How many conservatives now standing up for Cain and bashing these women and the other candidates for Cain’s OWN ACTIONS, yeah how many of them rushed to judge Clinton and to assume he was guilty? Talk about a damn double standard and hypocrisy to boot! Let’s face it- there is DOCUMENTED EVIDENCE of this happening over ten years ago! No one had ever heard of Herman Cain politically then and he wasn’t running for any office-how ludicrous to claim now that this is all a smear. Who CARES who brought it out into the open? At least it was now instead of when and if Cain had become the nominee and now we know him to be a liar at the least and a possible freak at the worst and yet he wants to shift the blame onto strawmen! It’s your own fault Herman-own up to it!

  • clintonformccain

    Everything he’s ever said or done has just been taken out of context, doncha know!

  • uncmike

    came out on the same day the Cain story broke. But for the Cain story, the talking heads in DC would have been discussing Will’s disdain of Romney. Romney needed something to deflect attention away, and he needed it quick. And Romney knew the Will piece was coming out because bits of it had already been previewed on conservative web sites and elsewhere. I say Romney had more reason than Perry to plant this story with POLITICO, than anyone else.

  • Tbone

    can be colored stupid.

    Cain has REPEATEDLY now played the race card and now is accusing Perry’s camp of leaking a story of which Cain has zero proof and, in fact, can’t even offer a plausible speculation.

    Cain is a walking train wreck of a candidate and a lousy human being to boot. You want Obama 2.0 go right ahead. Were Cain to get in the Republican Congressional leadership wouldn’t even take his calls.

  • center77

    I am sick of slimy slick talking politicians, and after hearing all the things that have come out today, I am beginning to think Cain really did do these things, now hear me out before you guys call me a traitor to the movement.

    The very thing that makes people drawn to Cain is his off the cuff shoot from the hip supposed honesty. Am I really supposed to believe that it is out of the question that Cain used to say off cuff slightly perverted comments to college aged subordinates.

    This almost seems exactly what probably has happened. In fact, I know girls that I’ve said things to joking around at parties, and I’m in college. But, in Cain’s case, it looks like two things are developing, first he had a habit of doing this, and if I am hearing the story right, he had done this fairly recently to some workers at a talk radio studio.

    Now when confronted, Cain first wants to deny knowing anything about it, and we all know the twist and turns from there . Now it just so happen he told somebody that is now working for Perry that he was accused, but yesterday he did not remember this at all.

    Bottom line, whether Cain did this or not, the fact that he is trying to take Perry down is just slimy, and its sick because he knows there are more coming out, he said so. He knows he is damaged, and hy is helping Romney on the way down. This is a sleazy thing to do MR> Cain.

  • miconservative

    Cain says he informed Anderson in 2004 that he had ONE woman accuse him falsely of sexual harrasment and he knew nothing of the second accusal. Then in 2011 Anderson goes to work for Perry and then leaks to Politico that TWO women accused Cain of sexual harrasment when Cain only told Anderson about ONE accusal. This guy can’t keep his story straight. If anyone saw that Block guy on Brett Baier tonight reading talking points on camera you understand the level of sophistication of the Cain campaign. It was a disgrace. They got no one to blame for this problem other than Herman Cain. I agree with Karl Rove…these women must be allowed to talk to get to the bottom of this.

    It is also the height of hypocrisy for Cain to cry foul of being accused by unnamed sources (although we do know for certain he was accused of sexual harrasment) and then to accuse the Perry campaign with absolutely no proof at all. Cain is a joke.

  • macbookben

    …even to a Cain supporter.

  • retire05

    I spend one afternoon away from this place and the whole Cain campaign is falling apart.

    Now, for all those who are quick to blame Perry (although Cain is, once again, going on nothing like solid facts) let me ask you to do this: point out one time where Perry has ever gone after an opponent with this kind of slander? You won’t find it. Hell, the DPS proabably has enough on Kinky Friedman to lock him up, but it was never used against Kinky by the Perry campaign. Huchison? Yeah, there’s a whole lot that’s shaky there (like her financials) but not once did Perry go after KBH personally. That just ain’t his style.

    Cain is shooting off his mouth and has no proof. That ain’t the way to campaign, folks. And in case you less experienced political junkies don’t understand, it is correct that why you apply as an opposition researcher for a campaign, you don’t give your best info to the candidate you want to hire you, at least not before you are hired, and Cain knew about the Politico article on Oct. 20th, (at least) and Anderson was hired 10/24. If Anderson had dumped all his marbles on the sidewalk before he was hired, I guarantee you it would have been “Thank you, Mr. Anderson. Don’t call us, we’ll call you.” He would have been of no use once he divulged everything he knew.

    Cain is now a drowning man grasping at straws. Why not accuse Romney, who is the closest to Cain in the polls? Why Perry, if Perry is so low in the polls. I have said it before, and will say it again, there has been some quid pro quo between Romney and Cain at one time or another. But Cain better wise up. If given a choice between Cain or Christie, Cain’s is yesterday’s flavor.

  • gekster

    We havn’t lost anything yet.

  • texabama

    as to why Cain would brief a member of his campaign on the incident when he was running for the Senate in 2003, but didn’t brief anyone on the incident when he is running for President. Who would be apt to have more oppo research on an opponent—a millions of dollars Presidential campaign or a Senate campaign?

  • center77

    Cain accused Perry of allowing a rock to have a racist name on it after hearing only that WA-PO had UN-Named sources (Cain, does that sound familiar). Cain is the worse candidate in my eyes, I cannot believe the hubris of this guy. It breaks down like this, the Cain campaign is trying to shift attention away from his mess up, and now he think blaming Perry is better than his race card yesterday. This makes me sick, and it tells us a lot about Mr. Cain.

    Somebody please tell Dick Morris to shut his face up, yes I said shut his face up. He is saying this is nothing more than a speed bump, which is a joke right. Fox needs Cain to help Romney, I understand, they sure did not cover for Perry with the stupid rock.

  • goformitt

    The fact that he would go after a woman 2 years out of college is particularly sick. Wielding that authority / intimidation over someone so young, surely trying her best at her first job out of college is cruel.

    An now blaming Perry without proof – like a child. And having his bodyguards strong arming reporters.

    The guy never had any business running for POTUS. I don’t know what it is about our party that seems to think uninformed, inexperienced goof balls should be supported, but if we don’t get over it and support someone who can win then we will get what we deserve.

  • snowshooze

    I’d never think Romney could stoop so low.
    He would have to get an extension ladder to get that high…
    I believe it will surface that Romneycamp is the source.
    If not Mittens himself.

  • acat

    He’s not my first choice, but he’s the better of those two.

    I’ll also take Cain over Romney at this point. Incompetence is less dangerous than coreless gravitas.

    Mew