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  • izoneguy

    That Erick Erickson can get a sit down interview with a Republican candidate for President and FOX gets the smoking man?

    What’s Up With That????

    Good job!!

  • davidpw

    Cain is looking so ridiculous for pointing the finger at Perry with no evidence.

  • byebyebama

    This site really has become “Rickstate”. The man says that we shouldn’t be pointing fingers and should focus on important issues. Yet he was quick to point fingers at Romney. Why is it that blame without proof was perfectly acceptable on this site until the blame went to Perry? Now everyone is piling on Herman for blaming Perry. Erick said on the radio the other day that the race was actually between Perry and Cain to see who can consolidate the tea party. Doesn’t it make sense that Herman would blame Perry? He doesn’t need to take down Romney, he needs to take down Perry. Either way, they are both done. Que Newt Gingrich please.

  • clowngirl

    straightforward, direct answers. Not indulging in any nastiness or taking any shots. It’s a stark contrast.

  • adamd

    He did not even show any bitterness to the fact that this is the 2nd time Cain has falsely accused him of something.

  • adamd

    What would make him look even more ridiculous is if it ends up it was the Romney campaign who fed this to the press.

  • redmymind

    Perry made his point as clear as a whistle. No defensiveness; no “how dare you even ask” rhetorical indignation revealing of an inner insecurity; and no hesitation as far as I could tell. I’m no mind-reader, but I find Perry’s statement quite straightforward, manly, and honorable. I’m not left with that, “What did he mean by that?” suspicion afterwards that would lead me to replay the interview. Once was enough for me.

  • earlgrey

    :)

  • branderz

    For my first post on RS, I’m going to make a super conspiracy theory and probably promptly be banned.

    I’ve been following this election closer than I’ve ever followed any election before, and I’ve noticed an interesting trend. Each time an anti-Romney makes a splash in the polls, that person is almost immediately torn down by some scandal: Pawlenty, Bachmann, Perry, and now Cain have all seen the ugly side of going up against Romney.

    If there is blame, who really is at fault? I’m starting to see Romney and an attempt to take out both Perry and Cain with this latest scandal. I saw in some RS posts from today and yesterday that Curt Anderson has worked for Cain, Romney and now Perry. Does anyone else find that at all odd? I get that he’s a consultant, but ties to all 3 is very peculiar.

    I propose this theory: if it comes out that Anderson did in fact leak this story, then Anderson could have been a Romney plant in the Perry campaign to take out both of Romney’s biggest competitors at once.

    I don’t necessarily believe this, but I thought to point it out so hopefully this will inspire some journalist to follow the money trail and discover the truth. Perry seems genuine in his statements above, and while he might not have had anything to do with this, his staff could have been involved without his knowledge.

    In any case, I’m tired of all the bickering and ready to throw my support beyond the Newt. Even with his muddied past, he’s been the only consistent candidate to date. Not to mention I’ve been dreaming about Newt mopping the floor with Obama during a head-to-head debate. A girl can dream.

  • kdubs

    Not that it matters… but I met Gov Perry yesterday afternoon in Northern California. Did I miss a possible Erickson sighting too?

    I found the Governor to be particularly compelling and am supporting him financially as well as with my time. But a warning, in talking to my Dad last night (who was a Perry supporter) he indicated that he was “turned off that Perry had spread rumors about Cain.” Sadly, I think Cain’s attacks are working and I’m not sure how Perry counters it. I’ve seen comments on The Corner to this video saying that they don’t believe Perry. Even more sadly, the solution might be the scandal becoming more sordid to the point that it will not be seen as a smear but as the necessary illumination of a disastrous candidate for the general election.

  • streiff

    nt

  • minister_of_war

    I’m glad that Erick shows this clip of Rick Perry being a complete hypocrite for all to see.

    Perry actually says in this clip that: ?I?m disappointed that there?s finger-pointing going on.? But in response to unsubstantiated & irresponsible accusations against Perry & his campaign by the Chief of Staff of the Cain campaign, Perry’s campaign made unsubstantiated & irresponsible accusations against the Romney campaign. So if Perry is so “disappointed that there’s finger-pointing going on”, why is his campaign pointing it’s fingers at Romney? Or shouldn’t Perry be disappointed in his own campaign or in himself personally?

    RedState is getting way too chummy with Rick Perry. Perry announces his campaign for President at the RedState Conference, and Erick gets to do sit-down interviews with Perry whenever Erick wants. This whole time, I had thought that Rick Perry had an official “Perry for President” campaign apparatus, I didn’t realize it’s name was RedState. ?Or as you so appropriately called it “RickState”.

  • retire05

    You know, America is a wonderful place. You are not limited as to what blogs you can read. So, if you have a problem here, I suggest your toddle on over to some blog that mets with your approval.

  • gekster

    I do a search and all I find is Cain acusing Perry.
    What do you have.

  • irishgirl

    why it has always appeared that Herman Cain seems to like or favor Mitt Romney but has always appeared to have such disdain for Rick Perry? Disclaimer: I like Herman Cain. Before he announced he was running, I had listened to him in the past on radio. But I support Perry.

  • minister_of_war

    I tried putting the link in my last post. For some reason it didn’t work. Here it is again: Perry’s campaign denies Cain campaign charges & points its fingers at Romney instead.

    Hopefully, it works this time.

  • gekster

    You do know that if you post something negative about Perry,
    you can soon be expected to be boiled in oil.
    At least that’s what some posters say.
    Expect to be getting warm very soon. LOL
    (got this filed)

  • minister_of_war

    Talking about putting oil all over me could be grounds for a sexual harassment complaint. ;)

  • streiff

    the animosity that I’m privy to but can’t divulge. Suffice it to say that the chances of a reconciliation between the two men are slim.

  • irishgirl

    It’s pretty strange to think that anyone who professes to be a conservative would prefer Romney over Perry, but, hey, politics is strange.

  • streiff

    did you see how Cain has dealt with reporters this week

    “Have YOU ever been accused of sexual harassment”
    “What part of NO don’t you understand.”

    The man is prickly and vindictive. This is not to debate the merits of the man… I don’t find all that many, myself… but just to point out that his way of dealing with people isn’t the best.

  • branderz

    Nice point, streiff, although I must point out that these recent statements are a direct result of Michael Savage. Savage was on-air all this week saying that Cain should take this approach. I wish I had links to the Savage audio, but I’m not paying to access his archives.

    I’m very surprised to see so many people still supporting Cain. We all gasped and were appalled by Anthony Weiner, and I think as conservatives we should expect more integrity from our candidates, instead of blindly supporting them. Cain is finished.

  • byebyebama

    I originally enjoyed this website as a place to vet candidates and discuss relevant conservative issues. I am disappointed that it has become a “you better support Rick Perry or we are going to pile on you” website. What is the point of this website if we can’t vet ALL of the candidates? If it has become a Rick Perry fan club then you are right, I should leave.

  • tngal

    What part of no is so difficult. The docs4patientcare group specifically told the reporters there would only be questions about healthcare. The doctors, in lab coats mind you, so the reporters knew who they were, were having to help cain’s bodyguards fight off the mob. The doctors wanted to get out info on a serious issue. They are as unhappy about Ocare as anyone else. But the media hounds didn’t want that. The docs told them no. Cain told them no. Its only two letters. How difficult can it be?

    “After several reporters, photographers and hotel staff got into an argument when people were being shoved during the scrum, several doctors, wearing white lab coats, expressed distaste for the press and their questions. ?Well your job is not telling me how to do mine,? one photographer shouted back to one doctor. ?I don?t tell you how to do surgery.?

    Story should have been labeled “journalist hacks get testy.” The media started it. They were told no and then they got uppity. They deliberately got pushy so docs and hotel staff and to push them away.

    http://dailycaller.com/2011/11/02/cain-gets-testy-with-reporters-asking-about-sexual-harassment-allegations/#ixzz1cfrwRzTJ

  • runner12

    I was wondering the same thing. Streiff’s answer makes me even more curious now that it seems the animousity is personal rather than political. I was always puzzled by Cain’s support of Romney because idealogically Cain seems closer to Perry than Romney. Now I know that it is obviously personal.

    As for Perry, he came across as honest and straightforward in his tone and body language. The man was clearly telling the truth. Cain owes him an apology.

  • center77

    what he would do if he was at the G-8 meeting as president, he went on to say that he would tell them to watch what we do, and Obama cannot do that because Obama has modeled his agenda after whats going on in Greece. Rick Perry has been looking really good lately, and I was already a supporter.

  • barryp

    Why not just have Red State redirect to the Perry campaign website?!!? So either Cain is a liar or Anderson is. Cant have it both ways. Political operatives as a class are not usually the most honest group…

  • center77

    his spokesperson did, and Cain really did. So once you grow up, please learn to deal with facts.

  • center77

    This site has been very fair to every one, and has even told Perry to get its act together a time or two, but even the national journal has said Cain should not have made the claim Perry’s camp did it. Cain has lied so many times through out this whole process, now he wants us to argue over who leaked, who cares who leaked, what matters is what happen, and Cain is in no hurry to allow everyone to know.

    I understand, you hate a site that does not attack Perry when its not warranted, but that’s ok, Perry has the record who ever you are supporting doesn’t. I can say that because nobody on the stage has the record Perry has, and substance matters, principles matter, and sexual harassment of at least three women matters. So if Cain did it, then he should not be president, even if he did not do it, he is as dumb as people say Perry is, but I watch Perry do interviews, and he has not had to change what he said 50 times.

    The one comment Perry should not have said he said in the middle of being attacked by everyone on stage, no one has taken the hear Perry has for as long as Perry has. Cain is establishment, thats why he tried to take Perry down on his way down.

  • center77

    were levied against him before he was forced out, plus he is the only speaker to have been pretty much kicked out because of ethic violations. His whole campaign is a vanity episode. I like Newt, and I know he is smart, but there is no way we can run him. against Obama.

  • center77

    and now he wants to cover up the cover up by blaming Perry. I will tell you this, not one woman in my Republican family will support him, and they did up until this point. I told them he was full of hubris, but they can tell he is trying to lie his way out of this.

    If Cain wins the nomination, Conservatism takes a huge hit, right when we are on the cusp of gaining big.

    Romney is a sleep agent for liberals, at least according to Wa Po, but they had an interesting hit piece on him, and weirdly it made sense for once, not any no name sources in it.

  • phelbin

    I’m with you on this. The Perry supporters are way too happy about this scandal, and it makes me like him even less.

    If the Cain train derails, I’ll jump on the Gingrich train.

  • Matthew Morris

    I have heard more than one woman call into radio shows saying they made donations upon hearing the Politico hit-piece allegations. One woman even said she doubled what she was going to give.

    Whatever the issue or problem with Cain ends up being (if it ever comes out fully), we have a 10x bigger problem with the media and our collective culture at large. And with the current president. Scratch that- 100x bigger.

  • branderz

    Well, we’ve systematically dismantled every viable candidate, so we’re left with Santorum and Romney….

    I weep for the future

  • branderz

    I love Savage and listen to him everyday. I was simply pointing out that there were those out there suggesting how Cain should handle himself.

    Regardless of this particular incident with the health care forum, Cain has continually handled himself in less than a respectful manner. This should have been addressed head-on. “No response” is only going to push the media to drive harder for answers. Cain is just as much at fault for not responding as the media is for getting “testy.”

    How can you defend Cain when he clearly did this? Paying out settlements isn’t a show of innocence. If he was innocent, it would’ve been dismissed in a court of law. 1 “victim” is suspcious, 2 “victims” could possibly be a set-up, but now a third has come forward and this can no longer be ignored. Not to mention there were settlements! Cain has a problem and not qualified to be POTUS. The media should be ashamed of themselves for their conduct, but you can’t continue to support someone of this nature.

    Compounded by his continued gaffes on everything from immigration to foreign policy, and you have someone who isn’t even qualified to run for Congress. Cain is clearly a successful business man, strong for beating cancer, persistent, and a myriad of other things, but he is not Presidential material.

    And, for the record, I’m only anti-Romney. I don’t 100% support anyone for the nomination. I’m leaning to toward Gingrich at this point because he looks to be the only one left standing after the GOP self destructs. Perry seems alright, too, but the jury is still out on whether or not he can rebound. o_O

  • avagreen

    Makes perfect sense to me.

    You’ll be in a quandary if Newt and Perry are on the same ticket.

  • avagreen
  • branderz

    and now wondering why we’re not all screaming it from the rooftops, and by this i mean perry/gingrich, gingrich/perry. i don’t care who is the headliner as long as it’s those two on the ticket. they’re both leaps and bounds above all other candidates on real world, governmental experience.

    i guess that means i’ve decided where my support is >.>

  • Scope

    They can head on over to Free Republic as they outright banned any Romney supporters, and they are now doing the same with the Perry supporters. You can head on over to their and cheer as everyone who supports Perry just disappears with a banning, even those that have been their for a very long time, and contributed to the site.

  • Scope

    and did you join in with the glee over Perry being accused of being a racist with the WaPo hit piece on him, with Cain coming out and adding his opinion that the rock made Perry a racist also?

  • Scope

    Perry said that when Obama went to the G-20, he had no leverage. Obama has been pushing the US into the same nanny state, federal government providing cradle to death monies on it’s citizens, in order to entrap them into voting for the party that keeps them in a dependent state. Isn’t that why Greece, and many other European countries have tetered on bankruptcy. We have already seen the outcome within our own states, with the blue states broke because of government handouts, particularly with the unions.

  • Scope

    Pitting Curt Anderson against the Cain “baseless” allegations against him make it a who is more credible commentor. Cain has already proven himslef to be a liar. Anderson was very credible when he refused to bash Cain, but said he never had that conversation with Cain. Now Cain is claiming that everyone is lying, except him.