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The Horserace for December 1, 2011

We are a month away from the actual horserace, but it has been going on a while. I have said repeatedly that the race is Mitt Romney’s to lose. It looks like he just might lose it.

The race is Romney’s to lose because the race has settled against his favor. The race has settled in “Not Romney’s” favor. The problem, though, is “Not Romney” is not on the ballot. Because the 75% of Republican voters who do not want Mitt Romney cannot settle on an alternative, Mitt holding steady at second place benefits him. The 75% will divide up around him while his 25% holds steady.

But few of us, including me, could see Newt’s resurgence. Brought on in an unusually debate heavy campaign season, the money has started pouring in and Newt has risen to replace Romney. Not only that, but Newt’s rise has seen Romney’s numbers start to fall. There is panic in the Romney camp.

Herman Cain’s implosion has prompted more consolidation away from Romney toward Gingrich.

The question now is can Gingrich overcome his Sisyphean legacy? Gingrich historically has reached the top of the political pile only to spectacularly roll back down it. Conservatives in the 90′s came to loath him as an obstruction to conservative dominance. During the George W. Bush years, Gingrich charted a third way that is now starting to come back on him.

If Gingrich can weather the storm for the next three weeks, it becomes Newt Gingrich’s race to lose. History is against him. The voters, so far, are for him. Waiting off stage for his second close up should the voters break out the hook for Gingrich is a governor from Texas — the man who inherited Gingrich’s original campaign team.

We’ll get into it all in today’s Horserace.

Because it has been a few weeks due to travel and holidays, let me re-state up front that while we all have our biases in the race for and against particular candidates (my bias is largely in the “not Romney” camp as opposed to for a particular candidate), this is my effort to try to be as objective as possible. It’s not an endorsement of a candidate or a particular view, but how I see things shaping up whether I like it or not. That’s why I always take the candidates in alphabetical order.

Feel free to disagree or hope I’m wrong. I frequently hope I’m wrong. But this is where I see it headed.

Michele Bachmann

Michele Bachmann had a great Heritage/AEI debate performance, but it hasn’t really gained her anything. She has no new message and her old message really isn’t getting out. Her campaign is out of money and she is getting very little attention.

When candidates fall in the polls, they stop getting the media attention of the front runners. Sometimes the candidates can retool, tinker, and get back out there for a second take. That time has come and passed for MIchele Bachmann. Her campaign is all in for Iowa, but despite portraying herself as the hometown girl, she is not getting traction on the ground.

Herman Cain

Herman Cain’s campaign is over. The moment a campaign let’s slip it is reconsidering whether or not it should be in the race is the moment people start writing off the candidate.

Let’s be real honest here. Herman’s problems are largely staff related (pun alert). His staff has been rather inept these past few weeks dealing with the scandals or non-scandals. They’ve been inept dealing with his foreign policy missteps. They’ve been inept in responding to criticisms of his national sales tax portion of 9-9-9.

Ultimately though, the buck stops with the candidate. And if the staff is perpetually incompetent, at some point blame must ultimately lie with the candidate. A Herman Cain supporter called my radio show the other night angry. I’m used to Cain supporters being angry with me lately. They think I’m not grateful enough to Herman and that I should be the ultimate Cain cheerleader.

This guy was not angry at me. He was angry at Herman. He said he didn’t believe the harassment charges. He wasn’t sure about the affair, but the woman sounded legit. He didn’t care though. There could be something in Herman’s life that we don’t know that affected him or it could be that it didn’t happen. It did not matter. We are all sinners and fall short of the glory of God.

What bothered him and made him so angry was that he has put his reputation at stake, telling his friends that this businessman with no political experience could fix the country. His friends had dismissed him and he kept on. And people started thinking maybe Herman could fix the country.

But finally it became apparent that Herman can’t even fix his campaign. And if he can’t fix his campaign, regardless of the veracity of the actual allegations, there is no way he could fix the country. This guy felt betrayed that the man he thought was so competent without political experience could not even run a campaign without the campaign tripping over itself.

That’s why Herman Cain’s campaign is over. So should he get out? No. There’s always another chance. He’s got the money. But most importantly, if Herman Cain drops out now, voters will see it as an admission against interest that he had an affair. If he holds his head up through Iowa, it will all be forgotten. But the damage is done.

Newt Gingrich

Herman Cain’s implosion has benefitted Newt Gingrich more than any other person. What is so fascinating is that you can see in the polls the horde of people who fled Perry to Cain have now fled Cain to Gingrich. The question for Gingrich is if he can hang on through December. The advantage is few people pay attention in December. But those who do pay attention become the information sources for those who do not.

Gingrich’s problem is that there are a lot of very influential conservatives who feel very betrayed by Gingrich’s positions over the years. They are now out to settle scores with him. Voters may like him now, but will they in three weeks? Already, Ron Paul has out one of the most effective attack pieces I’ve seen on the trail this year. Stuff like that is going to keep trickling out.

If Gingrich can hang on, I think the race locks quickly for him among the 75% who do not want Mitt Romney. But I am convinced if Gingrich collapses as he is historically prone to do because of his ego that both Jon Huntsman and Rick Perry will get another look. One other point about Gingrich — does he have the state level organizational support to make it through the other states? To a large degree that would come if he wins Iowa. But as we saw with Perry and with Cain, when a candidate suddenly and largely unexpectedly starts surging with not a lot of money in the back, the staff can start tripping over itself leading to chaos.

Here’s the Ron Paul ad:

Jon Huntsman

Jon Huntsman is rising in New Hampshire. If Huntsman comes back in New Hampshire, he is in the game. Here’s the funny thing about Jon Huntsman. His record as a Governor is more conservative than Newt Gingrich and Mitt Romney combined. He is more pro-life than either of them. He is more economically wedded to the free market than either of them. He has better foreign policy experience than either of them. Huntsman should be a conservative hero in this race.

But he is not because of his own campaign’s doing. The campaign made a conscious choice to give the middle finger to conservatives early on. Huntsman decided to cast himself as the moderate in the race — go to the left of Romney. I think his campaign thought Romney would run right. Instead they both tried to run up the center and Huntsman got to the left. He also, maybe he can’t help himself, comes off as too condescending to a lot of primary voters. His attitude rubs people wrong in South Carolina and Iowa.

What’s so tragic about the Huntsman race is that he has the boldest free market economic recovery plan. He has the most pro-life record of anyone in the race other than Rick Perry. He has the best jobs creation record of anyone in the race with the possible exception of Rick Perry. And he has run away from all of that to be the guy who doesn’t offend the women of The View.

If Jon Huntsman made that decision, he might want to commit seppuku. If his campaign team did it, he should fire them. I have come to the conclusion that Jon Huntsman is more conservative than Mitt Romney and would be a more conservative President than Mitt Romney. I have also come to conclude that if the Huntsman campaign has anything to do with it, you will never ever know how conservative his record and economic vision actually are and he will lose as a result.

Ron Paul

Ron Paul continues to impress me with his video work, his commercials, and his appeal to a broad base of people on economic issues. Ron Paul actually has captured the zeitgeist on economic issues right now. Unfortunately he has a lot of baggage and it mostly comes from foreign policy views and prior statements.

I think Newt Gingrich is right. Ron Paul’s voters are Ron Paul voters. They are not Republican voters. They will not go to someone else, but few others will go to Ron Paul. He is incapable of building a winning coalition for the primary. His views on our relationship with Israel are repugnant to many. His views on the war on terror scare the crap out of people. And ultimately, while he has captured the zeitgeist on economic issues, I don’t think it would last through the general election.

Ron Paul will not be the nominee. But he just might take out Newt Gingrich.

Rick Perry

The problem for Rick Perry is that his campaign is now based on luck. If Newt Gingrich implodes, Rick Perry may get another look.

That’s not a winning strategy. That’s wishing on a star. But it still may happen.

Ultimately — and I am friends with a number of these guys but I won’t mince any words here — I believe Rick Perry will get a second look by primary voters and I believe the Perry campaign will not be ready for that second look.

Here’s the problem for Team Perry — they are not hungry. If Rick Perry loses tomorrow, all of his top people go back to the Governor’s Mansion in Texas and govern Texas. They all view that as equally awesome to the White House, so they are not hungry for a win. They have nothing to lose so they don’t mind losing. And I think that goes for the candidate too.

Reporters routinely tell me that Perry has perhaps the nicest of campaign staffs, but they also tell me that the Perry campaign is full of hubris and really does convey the attitude that it doesn’t matter because they’ll still have jobs the day after Perry drops out.

It is a psychological problem for Team Perry and I don’t know that they get it. They are about to get a second look from a lot of voters in Iowa and elsewhere who are about to be scared to death over Newt Gingrich’s social conservative record or lack thereof. And if the Perry campaign is yet again found wanting, and I sadly think it will be, we may just see the rise of Jon Huntsman.

Again though, right now, the second look depends on luck and it should not. The Perry camp is resting on a belief Newt will implode. They should be making their own luck as best they can. There are rumors of a staff shake up and a concentration in Iowa. They better do something. They’ve got a good staff in Iowa and a good ground game. They have the money, but they are running out of time.

Governor Perry, get ready for your second close up. You are just about to lose so make it count. One thing that could help you is if evangelicals in Iowa decide to unite behind you. That’s a real possibility right now.

Mitt Romney

This remains Mitt Romney’s race because while three-quarters of the GOP does not want Mitt Romney, the three-quarters of the GOP cannot make up its mind who it does want.

But weaknesses are starting to show up with Team Romney. Romney’s rather petulant behavior with Bret Baier is just part of it. Whining about an interview on Fox News suggests a rather solid weakness for Romney and also suggests he cannot hold up to tough questions about his record.

Romney’s got to take out Newt Gingrich. He’s so far using the same tactic he tried with Rick Perry — the career politician track. I don’t think that works for Romney. It just serves to remind everyone how utterly unsuccessful he is as a politician.

Still, the stars are still mostly aligned for a Romney nomination because no one else can get their act together. If Gingrich holds on through the digital rectal exam he’s about to get, Mitt Romney stays a bridesmaid. If Gingrich collapses and neither Perry nor Huntsman are ready, Mitt Romney does what his father could not — secures the Republican nomination.

Rick Santorum

I’m starting to feel sorry for Rick Santorum. Evangelicals in Iowa have been privately meeting to see if they could unite behind a candidate. Santorum could arguably be that guy given his record. But Santorum can’t get people convinced he can win and no one wants to back a guy who looks like a loser. I see no way Santorum becomes the nominee, even if he were to surprise everyone and win Iowa. He has no money and no organization. I have never understood the rationale for a Santorum run and I’m starting to think he doesn’t understand it either.

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  • constitutional

    What exactly should we do to *get* them hungry?

  • sunshinek67

    He always does

  • Common_Cents

    I’d think LA would be strong for Perry especially w/ a Jindal endorsement.

    “The telephone poll of 300 registered likely voters statewide was conducted Nov. 20-22 by Dr. Ron Faucheux of the Washington, D.C.-based Clarus Research Group. The respondents, contacted by landline and cell phone, were self-identified as Republicans.

    Faucheux said the survey represents a dramatic turnaround from his last poll of Louisiana Republicans in early October.

    ?The big news, really, is the Gingrich surge,? Faucheux said. ?He went from 4 percent to 31 percent, which is a big, big jump.?

    Gingrich, who ran fourth in the WWL-TV poll six weeks ago, has gained 27 points to take over first place.

    Romney has gained six points to move from third to second place. Cain has lost nine points to fall from second to third and Perry, who has the support of Gov. Bobby Jindal, has lost 12 points to fall from first to fourth.

    ?If Rick Perry can?t do better than fourth place in a neighboring state that has a popular Republican governor supporting him, then where can he do well? So this isn?t a good sign for Rick Perry at all,? Faucheux said.”

    http://www.wwltv.com/news/politics/Gingrich-soars-to-top-of-new-WWL-TV-poll-on-GOP-presidential-race-in-La-134715068.html

    Good insight on the Perry campaign on not being hungry. Is Perry similar to this cycle’s Fred Thompson? Running for President and being President is hard, you really gotta want it.

  • bzip

    What is really comes down to is:
    Romney
    Newt (if Newt fails then)
    Perry (Is Perry ready for that second look, I sure hope so)

    I think it is highly likely Newt will go down.
    I also think Perry is already starting to get a second look and it will continue.

    I agree with most of Erick’s assessment at this point.
    I don’t foresee Huntsman going beyond NH.
    I don’t foresee Bachmann or Santurom going anywhere (more so after Iowa) – but if Perry fails on his second look then Bachmann and/or Santurom fall in line.

    I also don’t foresee Romney really going anywhere, he is stuck and isn’t gaining a larger support base.

  • bzip

    That is a good question. Does anyone have any suggestions?

  • streiff

    Huntsman’s real problem is that none of us knew anything about the man before his run for the presidency and therefore what we know about him we don’t like.

    There is no way he can overcome his disastrous first impression.

  • carolynr

    I have followed politics for a long time. I also know how to read people?I think this is a gift?perhaps from looking inside and reading what makes a person tick. I am not as articulate as either one of you?however, I do bring to the table, a folksy type of average American thinking. So, please allow me based on Romney?s interviews and Gingrich?s debate performance plus his appearance on Hannity last night to put forth my insight.

    Romney is an over-achiever?on paper. He is forever chasing his imagined proverbial title that justifies Mitt to Mitt and Mitt to the public. IMHO?Romney is a person that enjoys the limelight but cares little about the concepts that allowed him to get there. His self-imposed discipline does not allow for any open-mindedness or humility. Whether he is still trying to live up to his father?s expectations or not, Mitt does not handle criticism well at all. Put in plain language?the man is an empty suit. Full of ideas, full of justifications but lacks the initiative to put them into place because he doesn?t believe his own drivel. It is a means to an ends. While in pursuit of his self-determined objective, he never considers the consequences of his actions?just the trophy of the objective. The ?consequences? of his actions are ?we the people?.

    Gingrich reminds me very much of a spider. He weaves such a good web that people either accept his concepts because they are lost in the admiration of his ?spinning? technique or there is enough silk out there, that people are looking at the design. Come into the parlor said the spider to the fly. Gingrich is a good debater, very knowledgeable concerning a myriad of topics?but inconsistent?but, we the flies never notice the inconsistencies because we are in awe of the silk of the web. Plain language?Gingrich could pull the wool over our eyes of the public and we would not even know we?ve been had. He knows the system in DC so well, that policies would be voted upon wherein comprehension of same is not understood by those voting much less Congress.

    This is the dilemma the American people face. Both people are extremely egotistical. Gingrich is easier to accept because he appears calm?and we feel that calmness. As I have said before, Romney makes me feel like I overdosed on coffee when I listen to him. He?s upsetting.

    Gingrich has one big achilles heal?he lacks organization and this might be his downfall. Failing to register on time in Missouri and not obtaining the proper amount of delegates in NH?shows that while he has many ideas?he lacks what Romney has?self-discipline.

    So?that is my take on both of these candidates. If it comes down to both of them?Gingrich will close the sale.

    So folks?unless something really changes fast?pray for the Hail Mary pass from Perry?because that is what we need. Perry, has, by far, the better positions on ALL POLICIES. His inability to articulate them needs INSTANT improvement.

    This is why Perry is not up in LA…they are looking at the silk.

  • WY_Cowboy

    The thing about Romney is, and what he didn’t understand when he went with the play-it-safe strategy, that he made himself the secondary receiver. In other words, the base feels like the conditions are right for a 40 yard touchdown pass and are looking for an open receiver downfield. Mitt decided to run a 12 yard hitch. If Newt can’t break open downfield on his go pattern, then we may go with the 12 yard hitch. A respectable play that gets us a firstdown and keeps the offense on the field with a lot more work to do. But, given the condition of Obama’s defense, the base feels like Obama can’t defend the go pattern and has left the end zone open for a big play. What matters now is how well Newt runs the pattern, and if he beats the corner back (media), the base will throw him the ball. If not, they’ll probably go with the 12 hitch. In the final analysis, Romney’s strategy has made him the secondary receiver and not the go to guy. Dumb plan.

  • bzip

    This a good ad by Perry and hits Obama really well.

    Perry compares Obama to Carter in new ad
    http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2011/12/01/perry-compares-obama-to-carter-in-new-ad/

  • http://www.nighttwister.com NightTwister

    So far he’s been able to stay on message and not trip up. Most everyone supporting Newt already knows about the baggage, so bringing that up won’t help much.

  • http://www.changeforrickperry.org louisianapatriette

    Article from Conservative Daily News:

    http://conservativedailynews.com/2011/12/why-arent-we-backing-rick-perry/

    First sentence: “Ladies and gentlemen: We?re in trouble.”

    Last paragraph: “Folks, this election is just too important to put it in the hands of either Gingrich or Romney. We on the right need to be putting attention onto Rick Perry, and putting our weight behind him. He?s the best we?ve got.”

    I encourage everyone to read the article and think on it this afternoon. We need to remember that the Tea Party has been praying for a true conservative in 2009. Unfortunately we may have gotten caught up in praying for a Second Coming of Reagan–or we put Sarah Palin on a pedestal too high. We may have thought that our Dream Candidate would be just that: a dream. A picture of perfection that will never materialize.

    Rick Perry may not be the slickest debater. He may mix up primaries with caucuses (I confess, I called Iowa’s caucus a primary the other day and I repent in sackcloth and ashes ;) ). He may have made some mistakes in his 11 years as Governor (i.e., Trans-Texas Corridor, Gardasil). But he’s the best we’ve got. He has the experience and the everyday-American-persona we need to go against Ivy Leaguer smartest-guy-in-the-room Marxist-in-training Obama.

  • renl57

    “But, given the condition of Obama?s defense, the base feels like Obama can?t defend the go pattern and has left the end zone open for a big play.”

    That is ALWAYS a bad assumption when you’re dealing with an incumbent President.

    Because just being the incumbent President has huge advantages. Anything that goes wrong anywhere–a terrorist attack, a natural disaster like an earthquake–and that gives the President a chance to act “Presidential.” (Remember when the Oklahoma City bombing gave President Clinton a boost in the polls? Remember when the start of the Iranian hostage crisis gave President Carter a boost in the polls?)

    Right now on Intrade.com, the betting is a 50.2% chance that Obama will win re-election. That doesn’t sound like he’s “left the end zone open.” It sounds more like he’s failed to move the ball, but he still retains a good defense.

    Suppose by June 2012, Obama has not “left the end zone open for a big play.”

    What do we do then?

  • mtnexile

    I think we may be making a mistake assuming that Gingrich’s rise is an exact parallel of earlier rises.

    Michele Bachmann, Rick Perry, and Herman Cain were all seen as conservative answers to Mitt Romney. Each failed when put to the test.

    Bachmann slipped when Perry entered the race, and her behavior at that point disqualified her for a second look when Perry slipped. Perry himself slipped because of his debate flubs. Cain benefited from Perry’s fall, but couldn’t hold on because he continually demonstrated himself to be unready. (Don’t forget that a lot of people were having second thoughts before the sex issues came up.)

    Gingrich’s appeal is different. Some see him as a conservative, others don’t; but where he stands out is in his reputation as “the adult in the room,” or “the smart one.” Many people apparently are coming to the conclusion, after watching the debates, that Gingrich is a far better debater than any of the other candidates, is acceptably conservative, and offers the best chance to defeat Obama. In other words, they’re basically buying into Gingrich’s description of himself.

    That being the case, the task facing the other candidates is no longer to prove themselves more conservative…but more intelligent. To defeat Gingrich on ground of his own choosing. I’m not sure any of them can do that. If Gingrich continues to have outstanding debate performances, the qualities that brought him to the top will solidify his hold on the top.

  • adamd

    The race is no longer Romney’s to lose. Clearly the primary voters want someone else to be the nominee. Newt might implode, I do not think that will happen, but if it does they will not go to Romney.

    With polls now showing Newt Gingrich leading Obama, Newt is clearly the front runner.

  • WY_Cowboy

    is that Newt is no stranger to the searing light of national politics. It has done damage to him before and has the potential to do it to him again. However, it didn’t kill him. As a matter of fact, there were several moments of brilliance Newt delivered during the harshest times. He sold the Contract With America in the face of one of the best lines in modern political times: the “Contract On America.” During that time, Newt understood the election was about Clinton and his agenda and not about him. There are striking similarities between how Newt is running now and how he led in 1994. There is probably not another candidate in the race as well prepared, in terms of experience, for what is coming at Newt. The fact that he has survived the meat grinder of national politics before does speak to his strength. I think that is a point the EE makes.

    It is too easy for other campaigns to assume Newt will do himself in again, and, in that regard, they are underestimating him. They do so at their own peril. If Romney is going to win, he will have to take out Newt in a most brutal fashion. If that causes GOPers to take a second look at Perry, then Perry is the luckiest man in the race. But, like EE said, it’s luck upon which he has to rely.

    One question I like to think about is who would you rather have as Speaker of the House today; Newt or Boehner? If the answer is Newt, why not Newt for POTUS?

  • kliff

    may not be the choice of very many to be President (myself included) , but, wouldn’t she be a fine Speaker of the House?

  • mariagomez

    Guys, I’m begging you all to take a second look at Huntsman.

    Yes, I agree with you, he looks down on us and thinks he is smarter than us. But I’ve gotten over his smugness.

    Yes, unfortunately he believes in global warming, BUT he says that he would never do anything to harm the economy, so I don’t think we have to worry about it.

    Guys, he is smart, almost as fiscally conservative as Ron Paul, totally pro-life, strong on gun rights, no skeletons in his closet. Come on, no one is perfect, what more do you want?

  • lizzie

    shorthand today:
    1) a genuine WOW! speech on 11/30 to the NH Legislature – but barely an echo so far. Perry needs that video (if it exists) to go viral. Transcript was posted last night, but only Saenz at ABC and the Eagle-Tribune in Derry, NH gave it an echo. The U-L and WaPo dissed Perry to focus on Huntsman’s speech that followed.
    2) Brian Burrough’s Vanity Fair Jan 2012 on Perry went online last night. Hard to find anyone who does not like Perry. except for Jen Rubin, who was not quoted :)
    3) Iowa social conservatives are constrained by a) failure to coalesce so far, and b) Huckabee’s grudge that Perry endorsed Giuliani in 2008. Perry will be at Huck’s forum on Saturday night.
    4) NY’s Peter King trashed Perry yesterday, which made me want NY’s Peter King to debate Iowa’s Steve King about why Perry’s Giuliani endorsement is a problem.
    5) Dec 7 is the RJC forum in DC. Perry gets a chance to knock them out of their Romney socks.
    6) have this theory that Perry and Gingrich had to take Romney down, so far working. No one can take Ron Paul down. Follow what Perry, Gingrich, and Huntsman wives are doing, and notice that the husbands try to not tackle each other so far.
    7) Bachmann may get the Evangelical vote in Iowa, but Iowa is not as relevant as where the media, from right to left, focus.
    8) Perry’s campaign listened to Deace’s Iowa focus group from Tuesday – so did I – and it showed on Wednesday.

    Huntsman has already been deleted from the next two debates in Iowa. Ouch. Dec 10 is ABC primetime.

  • Common_Cents

    .

  • WY_Cowboy

    John Boehner as Speaker of the House and Newt as POTUS. Newt almost ended Boehner’s career and there is no love lost between the two of them. I think Boehner is choking on vomit at the prospect of having to take a back seat to and acknowledge Newt as the leader of the party again.

    Hell, I’d almost support Newt for that alone.

  • WY_Cowboy

    in that role. She doesn’t command a lot of respect from them.

  • http://www.examiner.com/x-1597-Charlotte-Law--Politics-Examiner Mike gamecock DeVine

    a comeback? I don’t see him changing his bad first impressions absent dramatic events that contrast his conservative reliability with Newt and Mitt’s unreliability.

  • branderz

    This is the best analogy I’ve heard in a long time, and considering renl57′s question, I think it’ll come down to a quarterback sneak. Who is the quarterback? That remains to be seen, but it could be Perry :)

    Here’s hoping that Obama’s good offense catches a reflection in the eyes blinding them permanently, or trips on the field….

  • mariagomez

    Unfortunately many Americans take appearance into consideration when deciding who to vote for. I hate to say this, but Newt is not an attractive man. Whereas Huntsman looks straight out of central casting for president.

  • http://www.examiner.com/x-1597-Charlotte-Law--Politics-Examiner Mike gamecock DeVine

    James K. Polk

  • texabama

    is because everyone is being told he is leading everywhere else. I hate to say it, but most people are sheep. Since they don’t listen to what is going on they rely on others to tell them what is happening. It’s the old, “I’m not political, but if those that are think Newt’s the best (and that’s what the media seems to be saying as well) then I’ll vote for him.”

  • kcdude

    he could have used more debates at this point and now the debates wind down for the holidays. A decent finish in Iowa will likely give him that second look that EE writes about because he could benefit from any momentum in SC onward.

    Huntsman does not come off as condescending. In the early debates he WAS condescending. I think someone clued him in and he realized that folks would not fawn at his utterances and he has backed off on it a bit. I think EE has a point about it being in his nature. He will also have to distance himself from his AGW position.

    I am still waiting for Wood to explain his statement which was made contemporaneous to the Cain appearance on Blizter / CNN. I moved away from Cain due to this type of thing.

    I really cannot speak for or against Gingrich. His ego may do him in or he may have come to realize through his conversion that his life is a mist like the rest of us (James Ch 4). My wife and son both like the way Girgrich handles himself in debates – she is a bit anti- Perry because of his stumbles. The quote some attribute to Will Rogers “You never get that second chance to make a first impression” might come into play this election cycle.

    Romney is Romney – whoever that is today- I voted for him in the 2008 primary but I never saw him asked a tough question and I never saw him get flustered and stumble in the fashion he does when he is asked anything that he thinks is confrontational.

  • http://www.examiner.com/x-1597-Charlotte-Law--Politics-Examiner Mike gamecock DeVine

    with the unreliability of Mitt and Newt.

  • WY_Cowboy

    He’d beat Romney too.

  • http://www.examiner.com/x-1597-Charlotte-Law--Politics-Examiner Mike gamecock DeVine

    smile

  • texabama

    and his strong message of state’s rights. He must convincingly show voters that he is not a Washington insider—an experienced politician, yes!, who has real governing experience, but not part of the Washington crowd. He must also reinforce his energy policies and how they get us to jobs the quickest.

  • http://www.examiner.com/x-1597-Charlotte-Law--Politics-Examiner Mike gamecock DeVine

    Newt is unliked by a lot of Republicans, including tea partiers because they don’t trust him.

  • bzip

    Thanks louisianapatriette. It is a very nice article. I sure wish more people would read but more importantly ask themselves why they aren’t supporting the true, consistent experienced person i n the race – Rick Perry.

  • Tbone

    He ain’t going to get the chance. Deal with it.

  • Common_Cents

    What is interesting is Gingrich is never compared to his peers, other Speakers.

    How would Gingrich’s accomplishments stack up against:

    Hastert
    Pelosi
    Boehner

  • DaveWT4

    Call it the Cortez strategy, burn the boats so the staff and the GOP all know that the only way is forward to the White House.

  • barleycorn

    A casual look back over the past 6 months will show first Bachmann, then Perry, then Cain, and now Gingrich arising as the anti-Romney. Thus far no one has gotten a second look once they stumbled.

    Bachmann was shown to be shallow, Perry, not terribly bright and horribly inarticulate, Cain politically inept and ignorant on basic issues. The only reason Perry is still even mildly a factor is the war chest he amassed before he tried to speak on national television.

    Gingrich has always been a fall-back choice if all else failed. We know he’s smart. We know he’s articulate. We know he’s more conservative than Romney.

    I agree with Erick that Huntsman is still a (faint) possibility. If Gingrich implodes Huntsman would be the last viable anti-Romney.

    While at times it has seemed to be a chaotic process, I think it is now standing revealed as a very orderly and logical one.

  • WY_Cowboy

    I don’t think so. Actually, it is a large portion of the Tea Party crowd that is gravitating toward Newt right now. I think that is a point that EE was making.

    Besides, a GOP feud between Newt and Boehner is a losing proposition for Boehner if Newt is POTUS and they both know it. That’s what makes it a particularly bitter situation for Boehner.

    The president is the undisputed leader of the nation and the party. A lesson, ironically, Newt learned first hand.

  • irishgirl

    Really good.

  • irishgirl

    is really very sound. Makes perfect sense.

  • jgge

    He has the best governing record by far of all the candidates and I am a person who votes based on record. My second favorite is Gingrich so I will be very happy if he ends up the nominee. I have no third favorite and in fact I have already made up my mind that I will vote for President only if either Perry or Gingrich is the nominee. I would not vote for President if any of the other candidates is the nominee.

  • irishgirl

    “believes in global warming”……………..

  • lizzie

    http://www.vanityfair.com/politics/2012/01/rick-perry-201201

    written before the Gingrich surge, but I disagree with Erick’s “Here?s the problem for Team Perry ? they are not hungry.”

    Never under-estimate the power of Rick Perry’s resiliency, and grace under fire. His biggest dilemma all along has been how to overcome the “dumber than W + white southern racist” stereotype.

    The Atlantic did a ‘GOP candidate as Oscar contender’ post on Jan. 29.
    Perry got matched up with Clint Eastwood’s J. Edgar film by the writer.

    I think Rick Perry’s movie is “Real Steel”, which starts in Texas, and is the best feel-good come-from-behind-underdog movie EVER.

    Now that Bachmann has decided to close the US embassy in Teheran, (ok, she remembered it was closed in 1980 the day after), gaffes are no longer Perry’s biggest problem.

    Conservative media is Perry’s biggest problem.

  • remnov

    He will be the Americans Elect (w/ $22 million in largely anonymous donations) candidate. He has no interest in running as a conservative because he will be used to split the vote in swing states that will find his moderate positioning attractive & help Obama win his second term.

    So if he actually were to win the GOP primary by default, maybe it’s a good thing?

  • conservativemusician

    Which is not at all. The brilliant Paul ad above (never thought I’d be saying Paul and brilliant in the same sentence :-) ) graphically demonstrates how flawed Gingrich really. All of his massive debating skills would not prevent him from getting clobbered in the general election. If you think this ad is damning, I can only imagine what the Dems are going to do him. It won’t be pretty.

    Of course, Gingrich has my vote in the general if he is the last man standing, but I still think Perry is by far the most conservative and most qualified candidate on our side. It is a real shame how things have gone for him the last few months and I agree with Erick that he needs to get his act together before the electorate starts giving him a second look.

  • texabama

    I had posted above that he needed to go on his Washington outsider status and his energy status and then I continue down and see this ad. I do think this is the winning strategy.

  • texabama

    but I guarantee you John Q. Public does not and won’t take the time to research it.

  • http://www.ArchitecturalShots.com mdyou

    I’m sorry, but those petulant moments on the least threatening venue he will ever see – that was 100 times worse for him than Perry’s brain freeze. Can you imagine how he will handle the next Congress’ increased number of Tea Party members?

    Talk about destroying the brand…

  • texabama

    because of his intelligence and debate performances. What they need to be reminded of is this is why we were told Obama would be a good President as well. Remember how he was going to be cool and calm and rise above it all. People need to be reminded that it is really experience that counts—experience along the same lines of what it is you are trying to accomplish. As an executive that experience needs to in an executive position—not legislating, teaching or fund-raising.

  • snowshooze

    The Mitt Meltdown is in full swing. Self inflicted defeat.
    If Newt were Nominated, he would spend 85% of his time in defense and fire control, and it won’t be a pretty sight. Another self inflicted defeat, but he will go down fighting like a pitt bull.
    Newt is currently the front-runner. I wouldn’t have too much trouble pulling the lever for him, but I don’t think it would do much good.
    He isn’t my idea of a Conservative. We can do a lot better.

    Santorum and Huntsman.. are they running?
    Cain and Bachmann keep shooting themselves in the feet.

    Perry is all that is left.. and I have pretty much decided he is my preference. Like Erick and I have observed though… he really doesn’t need the work. I hate to vote a situation where I have to decide if my selection really has a chance, and should I go with the safe vote rather than the correct one.

  • Common_Cents

    really?

  • texabama

    That says the most about all of the Speakers as it continues to decline. I’m not particularly concerned with the degree of awful when it’s all awful.

  • snowshooze

    I always laugh when I see that. Sorry, I forgot to mention him.
    His ad is enough to sink a rather large battleship.
    Don’t mess around with them old dogs… they know all the tricks.
    Great ad. And he didn’t even have to make a single thing up, Newt has generated all the material anyone would ever need.

  • Common_Cents

    Romney hasn’t been challeneged much save for a couple times. The two times he’s been challenged he got very ruffled. The other time w/ Perry on stage.

    Gingrich will gladly put romney out of his misery if he goes there.

  • http://www.changeforrickperry.org louisianapatriette

    Hungry for America to get back on her feet.

  • federalfarmer1

    They are all in it for the power or the status, or at worst, to line their pockets. That’s why we need to hold all of their feet to the fire. When the get too comfortable, they start stealing from the register.

  • missourirancher

    and I have been a Rick Perry supporter even before he announced his candidacy at the Annual Red State Gather’n in South Carolina. I have stayed true to my choice because: “he in my opinion has the Best Resume for the USA”. It’s going to take all of us work’n together to get him elected. If I can help in any way, just tell me what to do because I’m broke to work.
    From a Conservative Missourian

  • http://www.nighttwister.com NightTwister

    He’s running to the left of Romney. He’s polling in low single digits among Republicans. Many Obama voters would love an alternative, and Huntsman would fill the bill for many of them.

  • eldstenorge

    I am not a big Mitt Romney fan, as I do not know if he is really a conservative or not. He changes too often, however, I will vote for him if he is nominated and I do not feel it behooves any of us to be so negative about someone who may be our nominee. We should, though the GOP refuses to do so, follow Ronald Reagan’s 11th Commandment. We praise him, etc., but refuse to follow what he advised. If Erick would ever say anything good about Mitt Romney, it would be time for the rapture. All the forces of nature would descend on us. It is hard to see anywhere, except maybe with those who are for Ron Paul, anyone who is more negative. Much of what is said about Mitt Romney, not all, but much, borders on the breaking of one of the Ten Commandments: Thou shalt not bear false witness. There is enough negative in what he has done without having to embellish. Honesty is the most important trait in choosing a candidate. We need to get back to our principles and remember the words of John Adams: “Our Constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate to the government of any other.” We are not working or having the Lord’s blessings because we are neither moral nor religious.

  • writescribe

    that Bachmann does not have the respect of the Republican leadership. Didn’t she run for one of the top slots in the leadership when the Republicans took over the House in the 2010 elections? I remember that she did, and the leadership basically threw egg on her face by not even considering her.

    I happen to agree that she is not deserving of a leadership post, but it really was quite embarrassing for her (or at least should have been).

  • lizzie

    http://www.youtube.com/user/RPerry2012#p/u/0/K0l6XBPgrtI
    Must see and hear – wow!

    Team Perry also has three new 30 second ads today, although bzip’s Energy ad is the only one posted so far.
    Politico has the one where Perry tackles, with his very best genuine charm, his ’53 second oops’ to run as the intro to Perry’s appearance on Leno tonight, at least on Iowa tv stations.

    And, the LA Times reports there is third 30-second ‘Perry on faith’ ad for the Iowa market.

    In it to win it!

  • barleycorn

    Its pretty mush standard fare anti-Newt material. The same type ad could be done with just about any politician in place of Gingrich.

    I don’t know what you mean by “trust”. I don’t “trust” any politician like I “trust” Jesus Christ. All politicians are human, make mistakes, and make policy choices I disagree with. I don’t vote for someone so they can hold my soul in trust. I do trust Gingrich to be a far better president than Obama and unlike his Oneness Gingrich understands America and what makes us great.

    Newt Gingrich is a conservative. Period. Look at his overall record, don’t just cherry pick a few votes you don’t agree with.

  • davesinsanantonio

    perfect, or they are nitpicking something that to them is a “pip under the dentures”.

    It’s curious how voters who themselves are imperfect demand perfection in their candidates. And, when the best candidate turns out not to actually be perfect they choose the worst alternative out of spite. The problem is that it is their own noses they are cutting off, and they will end up blaming the candidate for their disfiguration.

    How much damage could a spineless weasel in the White House do compared to someone who stands for conservative principles even though he may goof up now and again?

    Why, when the best candidate turns out to be slightly flawed, do we then pick the weakest one?

  • proud2btexasmom

    Just saw this… too cute

    http://bcove.me/3z2ioef1

  • gekster

  • davesinsanantonio

    based on record. Because Obummer’s record is that he is doing everything he can to destroy America. Your refusal to vote against him guarantee’s his “record” will be extended by four years, And, in those four years he will complete his goal, and we will never recover from it~

    So, pull your head out of your pride and get out and vote for whoever is running against the destroyer!

  • gracie

    I received email frm Anita Perry (an others have too)asking me to go to Iowa and volunteer on the ground. They are going in January aned some are going as early as 12-27.

    I would be there if family circumstances were different. I am sure they would love your help!

    If you cannot go spread these great articles at RS to all you know. Blog on other blogs facts you have gathered here and elsewhere. You are right; it is going to take all of us!

  • wbf

    Great speech!!

  • clowngirl

    And can’t give a straight answer.

    Governor Perry is the only candidate with type of experience typical of successful Presidents, but I don’t think the Speaker of the House would be second in line to the Presidency if the job wasn’t an adequate qualification.

  • celador2

    But primary voters do not care what a trecherous man he has been in his political and personal life. He has such bad karma he will lose if the nominee.

    I like Paul very much including his views US should not be an imperial power but a republic. I am enlightened by his views of constitutional authority on war and civil liberties and fiscal policy.

    . I am impressed with Bachmann much. I add Cain to this group but think him ill prepared at this time to be president due to himself not his staff.

    Then there is Gov Perry, a man whose policy views catch my eye more and more as solutions. And he has character and faith that have guided him in life as a man and public servant. He is well positioned to be the nominee.

    Romney has some free marker solutions and is a man of character who has changed over time. He strikes me as more a leader and more trustworthy than Newt, who has lied to the people.

    I always thought in his short time in debates Huntsman gave conservative free market answers, from cheap insurance to jobs in Utah. He never seemed that moderate to me,.He has character and a background I admire.

    Bachmann, Cain, Paul and Perry are the conservatives who will take on funnymoney, debts and other bold needs. I can sleep at night with Huntsman, Santorum or Romney as nominee after the four.

    But this year the TV media debates define the winners as do polls that form opinion as much as they measure it. I fear Newt willl sweep Iowa, Nh, SC and FL. By February will it matter if a few voters notice Perry or anyone but Newt and Romney?
    cel

  • cbartlett

    Hence, also the reason the sheeple will not see past the crappy 30-second sound byte image the MSM is giving Perry and find the true conservative principles behind his record. Agree with carolynr – “His ability to articulate them needs INSTANT improvement”!!

  • lucasblack

    According to Al Gore, it was James K Knox.

  • http://www.BillBowenAuthor.com RightinSanFrancisco

    The common thread between the Tea Party and Occupy Wall Street is the general recognition that nothing has been done to prevent another financial meltdown or to punish those responsible for the last one. If somebody wants a breakout issue, it is “Real Financial Reform”. They would lose Wall Street’s donations, but they would break out of the pack among the voters.

    www.RightinSanFrancisco.com

  • diehardcon

    BUT, on the most significant development since your last horserace review, you’ve fallen down vis-a-vis Herman Cain. You recount the painful process we’ve witnessed re Cain’s campaign staff, and then state, unequivocally, “Herman Cain’s campaign is over”. Exactly correct. However, you then recommend, incredibly, that he continue to run! And the reason? So he can inoculate himself, and so the affair will be forgotten. Not because the party or the country will be better for it. Nor for abstract altruistic reasons. And you then claim there’s always another chance! Frankly, this is absurd. Which is it?? With all really really desired due respect, this is a beclowning passage in the analysis. Today’s Rasmussen poll has Gingrich in an unprecedented 38% lead, substantially due to Cain’s new drop to 8%. There is no good reason for him to continue in the race; his presence further delays the convergence/consolidation process for conservatives. This is true regardless of our preferred remaining choice. Maybe you have sincere feelings for Cain personally, but you must be dispassionate throughout if you’re going to present a consistently strong analysis.

  • unclefred

    If that were going to happen he’d have pulled at least some support when Cain started taking on water. Those voters went to Gingrich.

    Perry has a lot of cash so he can hang around, but his problem has never been money.

    I’m amused by the continual red herring that Perry tanked because of his poor debating skills. Perry tanked because of his position on instate tuition.

    Over Thanksgiving I had a chance to spend several days with some folks from Arizona. We talked a fair amount of politics. We talked a lot about immigration and the border. From that experience I’ve learned that people who live in border states have a very different view about illegals already in the nation than those of us who live further North. I have come to accept that Perry’s positions on instate tuition and related matters seem sensible and appropriate to folks living in border states.

    Perry’s problem is that he is not running for president of the border states and his position in this matter does not sit well with the rest of the nation. Matters of immigration are not state’s rights issues. They are issues of national security.

    I realize that his supporters see Perry’s unwavering commitment to his position on instate tuition as a measure of his reliability. The rest of the nation sees this as an unwillingness to accept, or even consider the possibility, that as president his position is unacceptable.

    I suspect that for several months we on the right have been talking past each other on this issue. Both sides see our position as self evident and have failed to understand why we differ. If Perry is going to be ready for a 2nd look, or to create one, he needs to bridge this difference in a meaningful way.

  • unclefred

    If these charges are false then the media and who ever has orchestrated these charges can do this to anyone. The only way to prevent this from happening to any other Republican, is for Cain to pursue it and demonstrate what has happened and get the voters to hold the parties responsible. As long as he is running he has a platform to address the voters. This is not a legal issue it is a political issue and must be addressed in that forum. If Cain drops out he loses the ability to fight these charges and force coverage about what occurred.

  • annplato

    Not all of us knew about Texas and governor Perry’s success in OVERSEEING good job growth. When he announced we gave him the benefit of doubt based on his stellar Texas record, but then we wanted to see something dynamic that could put a damper on the MSM’s fascination of the Obama “intelligent” and rhetorical speech abilities, Perry performed way too shabbily to create even a supportive excitement. Well, I said, maybe next time; next time came, no improvement and then came the “brain freeze oops”! How in hellorheaven can any of you Perry idolizers expect the “masses” to give Perry more chances? WE WANT OBAMA OUT!!! And sadly, Perry does not appear to be able to accomplish that number one goal!

  • septembergurl

    A new Rasmussen poll of LVs (national) shows Newt is indeed the new frontrunner:
    Newt – 38
    Mittens – 17
    (can’t get behind Ras paywall for the rest – nobody else in double digits)

    So it is now Newt and the not-Newts.

    Bachmann: Riddle me this — How can she be so brilliant in the foreign policy debate and then declare in a speech that there will not be an American embassy in Iran when she is President? She knows we have no relations with Iran. I think she simply gets swept away with the rhetorical point she wants to make. But she constantly undercuts her strengths this way. Hard to see how she can improve her position.

    Cain: As usual on the Cain Train, mixed messages abound. I read it this way: Herb’s crack campaign staff have told him he needs to think hard about whether there are any other shoes likely to drop. Very likely there are. Herb will make the calculation: has the fundraising fallen off enough to make continued erosion of his personal life and reputation no longer worth it? The decision will be based on What’s Good For Herb.

    Gingrich: A second Florida poll today shows Newt with a huge lead (ARG):
    Newt – 50%
    Mitt- 19
    Herb- 10
    Hunts – 3
    Paul – 2
    Perry -2
    Bachmann -1
    Santorum- 1
    Buddy Roemer! – 1

    Gingrich has shown the ability both to grow his numbers and to cut deeply into Mitt’s. No previous not-Romney has accomplished that. So it’s clear he has more staying power too. He is also building a regional base of support in the South, which is crucial for someone who has spent 30 years inside the Beltway. This is the base that Cain was working with, and that I thought would go to Perry. South Carolina is to Gingrich what NH is to Romney — his backyard. Even if he doesn’t take Iowa and/or NH, he should win SC, which will set him up for Florida.

    The big question on Newt — will he flameout? Yes, he will. The question is not if but when. He could get through next month and be ideally positioned for the early contests. Or not.

    Huntsman. Hey, wait a minute! Check out the Florida poll above. It shows Huntsman (who doesn’t even campaign in Florida any more since he moved his campaign to NH) coming in fourth, ahead of Perry, Bachmann, Paul and Santorum. He also runs fourth in NH. So what we are seeing is a slow, almost imperceptible rise for Huntsman after months of no movement.
    No chance of Huntsman peaking too soon! This is happening because as the primaries approach, Huntsman is becoming more acceptable as an alternative to Romney, or Gingrich, or Perry.

    This is happening now because, while few people are excited about Huntsman, some of the opposition to him has faded as his record as a governor becomes better known. There have been a number of posts and articles pointing out his conservatism, which is lifelong since he began in the Reagan Administration. His debate performances have improved. He has issued more substantive policies than any other candidate — this week one on banking and financial services reform that would eliminate “too big to fail.” He is a good retail politician. He writes his own speeches and delivers them largely from memory — not exactly Mr Excitement, but he makes no gaffes and always delivers substance.

    In short, well positioned to occupy the establishment center-right slot currently held by Romney.

    Paul – Look for a fight between Paul and Gingrich in Iowa. My money is on the little old guy with the eyebrows. Like last time Paul is effective in the early contests but I think he will fade as the field thins and support consolidates.

    Perry- Can I tell you? Perry is not going to restart his campaign in the upcoming last 2 debates. The best he can hope for are adequate performances. That’s just how it is. But he’s an excellent, charismatic speaker and a skilled retail politician. I have trouble seeing how he can rebuild his campaign, though. His poll numbers are really weak, basically Bachmann territory. His chances depend on other candidates flaming out, as Erick says.

    Romney – It was always a question of whether Mitt could run out the clock, go into the primaries with his narrow lead, and simply outlast any challengers. The answer is, probably not. These next two debates will be key for him, and unfortunately his rival is not tongue-tied or substance-challenged,but the best debater of our time.

    Santorum- If he doesn’t catch on in Iowa he won’t catch on anywhere. I would say his talents (and he does have them) are simply not suited to the current political reality.

    Conclusion: I’ve come to think that Newt, who is a brilliant polemicist, a bold strategist and an experienced infighter, would be the best possible Vice President, along the lines of Nixon (who Newt resembles in more ways than one as a politician). Now, do we have a reliable Dad type,not too exciting but one who knows the game the game deeply and can deliver solid conservatinve governing? Someone along the lines of Ike to Gingrich’s Nixon?

    Yes, I’m touting the Huntsman-Gingrich ticket!

  • texabama

    Right now most people aren’t focusing on Newt’s experience, but on his ability to articulate and debate points. Lots of those same people wouldn’t be all that happy with the points if they fully comprehended what it was he was saying.

    As far as experience though, I’m not that sold on Newt’s experience to be President. He was a Congressman who became Speaker, a university professor and writer and provided information or influence to various groups. I don’t see any practical experience of running a city or state. He has tons more experience than Obama, but Obama can say he was in Congress, taught university classes and wrote books and provided information or influence to groups (ACORN, other community groups). Some might see the similarities.

  • westcoastpatriette

    and Arpaio said it is nonsense that Perry will be weak on illegals and he believes that Perry will have that border under control in no time if elected as President.

    Too many people read too much into the Texas Dream Act, IMO, and the issue is just too complicated and tedious to try to overcome peoples’ sense that Perry is a total squish on the issue.

    I agree with you, unclefred, that those of us in border states have different views in general from the rest of the nation on this issue as it is an ongoing problem and has been getting worse for years. Most people in border states are more than sick of the problem and I think it was a huge mistake for Perry’s campaign to underestimate the blowback he would get over this issue.

    It remains to be seen if Perry will be able to convince people he will not betray their concerns if elected President, but I hope he is able to do just that.

  • dalehogue

    There is something terribly wrong with people who claim to be Republicans typing posts on this page with critical opinions of Republican candidates with whom they disagree. They must
    believe that what they have to write is important enough that it
    fogs their brain cells in such a way that they don’t fully realize
    what they are doing to the Republican Party. Type up positive
    remarks about your choice as the Party’s nominee, don’t give
    Democrats ammunition that can be used against our Party’s nominee. This election is too important to American voters
    for Republicans to be critical of a Republican candidate just
    because you don’t agree with everything he or she has done
    in the past. Mr. Paul has a right to his opinion, but he should
    not help Democrats destroy one of our candidates so that he
    can benefit by this candidate being destroyed.

  • texabama

    I keep hearing Perry demonized for this one policy decision (which frankly was foisted upon him by the state legislature) while other candidates scurry around the edges of outright amnesty. Perry has flatly stated that he would not support instate tuition or any form of the Dream Act for the nation. He’s worked hard to try to seal the border using state money and assets to do the federal government’s job. Texas has passed voter ID requirements and banned sanctuary cities. I’m confused as to what Northerners expect. The reality is that Texas has had a large Hispanic population before there was a state of Texas and it is growing. You cannot theorize that the majority of it is illegal. I went to high school in El Paso in the 70′s and was a minority then—long before any talk of illegal immigration.

  • gekster

    A question posed on rightscoop.

    If Herman Cain drops out, who would get your vote?
    Newt Gingrich 35.32% (438 votes)
    Rick Perry 26.94% (334 votes)
    Mitt Romney 19.92% (247 votes)
    Michele Bachmann 10.16% (126 votes)
    Rick Santorum 6.13% (76 votes)
    Jon Huntsman 1.53% (19 votes)

    Total Votes: 1,240

    I know it is not scientific, as most online polls arn’t, but it appears that Perry would pick up some of the votes.

  • pj2012

    beware… The Force has a “Dark side”, which feeds off emotions such as anger, jealousy, fear, and hate… seriously though… Newt? Why would anyone trust this guy? Let’s try someone new without the insider baggage … hint (Perry), not the consummate insiders insider… because that’s what Newt is. He said he didn’t lobby… yeah sure… whatever you call it Newt… it was still influence peddling for MONEY. If that’s not lobbying… then what is it?

    Breaking news…. Newts ego is about to implode… He stated today “I’m going to be the nominee.” not very humble… here comes the old Newt… I feel a Newt implosion coming on…

    Did you see this oppo…

    Is Newt Gingrich a Conservative? You decide
    http://www.westernjournalism.com/is-newt-gingrich-a-conservative-you-decide/

  • lineholder

    I genuinely appreciate the objectivity you’ve displayed in this analysis, far more than I can put into words at this moment.

    You might be correct in your analysis of Perry’s campaign. I’ve often wondered what it was that presented an obstacle where Perry was concerned, because he just wasn’t making a connection with the general public…or at least there was no evidence to substantiate that he was. Your explanation makes a lot of sense.

    I’ve no wish to be snarky or anything of that sort, but at one time, you expressed a lot of concern pertaining to Huntsman on the issue of loyalty. Has this since changed? If so, were there specific events contributing to that change? Would you consider sharing those events with us sometime, just for the purpose of political insight into the situation?

    Re: Herman Cain…well, the part of the black community that essentially is Conservative at heart definitely got a realistic look at what they are up against. Not excusing the actions of the candidate or the campaign, mind you.

    I also agree with your previous article about Mitt Romney being somewhat “whiny”. He needs to be fully vetted this time, and if people choose him anyway, it will be with their eyes wide open rather than having the truth hidden behind the typical illusions of inevitability, electability, and all that other clap-trap stuff.

  • pj2012

    I’ve been looking for this video. ; )

  • Lesstressrx

    So lets get a slick Obama that never makes mistakes and can read a teleprompter most of the time. God forbid that Perry is human.
    Mitt and Newt does well with smooth talking.

  • Lesstressrx

    Yes indeed she would

  • jomo2009

    that a large number of GOP delegates are determined by proportional representation in this primary season, what are the odds that we could have a brokered convention? And which heretofore undeclared candidate (Palin, Christie, Ryan) decides to grab for the nomination in that event?

  • texashistorian

    . . . Governor of Tennessee after he served as Speaker.

  • Lesstressrx

    The media doesn’t want Rick Perry. One good reason to support him. If he gets another chance he will do fine. The media will do everything in its power to stop that. That also includes Fox News.
    Go figure.

  • http://www.examiner.com/x-1597-Charlotte-Law--Politics-Examiner Mike gamecock DeVine

    partier…

  • trelane

    But I can’t support RINO Mitt, so Newt is my pick.

  • Lesstressrx

    Couldn’t agree more. Conservative media is one of his biggest problems. I might add all media and Washington Elites.

  • Common_Cents

    All fun aside. Don’t ya think Perry needs to quit drafting and start passing some candidates?

    Are you saying ALL the polls, state, national are completely wrong by a wide margin?

    Please provide some backup to that. I’d like to see it.

  • retire05

    Perry himself, is hungry. He runs every race like his very life depends on it. And I have not seen that change. And EE is also wrong on another fact: Perry did NOT inherit Gringrich’s early campaign people. They were always Rick’s peeps but had gone to work for Newt but when Rick got into the race they went back to him. Knowing that those campaign staffers were Perry’s to begin with makes a lot of difference and Erick should have explained that.

    Texans also know what is at stake; loose Perry, and we are stuck with Dewhurst as governor, who is as big a RINO as they come. If Dewhurst defeats Ted Cruz (God forbid) then we have Joe Strauss as governor, another RINO that needs to be run out of the state on a rail. Dewhurst and Strauss know that their careers are going to be up for grabs because of their blocking the anti-sanctuary city bill and the Stop the TSA groping bill. I suspect Dan Patrick will run for governor in 2014, and probaby win, but until then, God help Texas.

    Rick Perry is brilliant at retail politics. Even Karl Rove gives him credit for that. And Perry is well funded. His PAC has $55 million and growing, more than Mittens’ compined funds. Perry has been running national ads on Fox, something no other candidate is doing. He is also on the ground, and giving interviews to anyone who asks for them.

    As to Cain; he’s history. In a Hannity interview, Newt outlined exactly why Cain is finished, (except for the Palinistas that he drew that will remain loyal to him if they learn he axe murdered his own mother) because when you go into South Carolina, you speak of issues that affect South Carolinians, nor Missorians, or Floridians. Cain went to Miami and was clueless about “wet foot, dry foot.” That lost him the nomination. Cain’s beginning to appear arrogant, thinking he doesn’t have to address local/state issues, he can just throw out that tired, old 9-9-9 crud once again and that will take care of that state. He can’t, but he is letting his own self-importance get in the way. Cain, like Bachmann, shot his own campaign in the foot. He he really be serious, he would have dumped Mark Block weeks ago.

  • sunshinek67

    if he does succeed to nomination rank. Rush talked a little bit about it today on his program. I know Streiff, Neil & others are vigorously defending Newt Gingrich’s professional career today on RS with the mighty power of the keystroke. We are only deluding ourselves in the process by skirting around the other side to Gingrich. MSM and the salacious reality tv obsessed society we live in profits from scandal, whether last week’s news or 20 years ago. Remember Bush’s DUI just days before the Election 2000? They are going after Gingrich, to be sure.

    The party of ‘family values’ no more under a Gingrich nomination. Of course, the economy and the dire situation we face as a nation trumps all, Gingrich’s internal think tank is impressive, literally a walking encyclopedia able to spout off data without glitch on cue. Problem is, character still matters to a lot of folks, especially in the Republican party.

    Gingrich has merits in certain areas of Government that require expertise and implementation thereof. It’s the other side of Gingrich, the inability to use common sense and make rational decisions for himself, scandal just sticks to him. Not the GOP’s best. I’ll vote for him, just won’t be able to defend him.

  • pj2012

    Perry won’t let us down… have some faith man/woman whatever it takes… I’m for Perry to the end!!

  • carolina

    Newt certainly knows how the political process works. That might be a good thing. If it turns out badly (if he is elected) – that would be bad for the GOP for many years. Risky business …..

  • carolina

    Newt certainly knows how the political process works. That might be a good thing. If it turns out badly (if he is elected) – that would be bad for the GOP for many years. Risky business …..

  • sunshinek67

    I would be concerned as Gingrich supporter that is currently having all of his dirty aired on t.v. and the blogosphere so close to the primaries. Rasmussen poll is ridiculously inflated. These are media push polls that are produced without scientific measure or accuracy. It makes for exciting headlines, though, and allows those pinhead pundit pollsters to get some air time. The only ones that matter are the ones on election day.

    This is a marathon, not a sprint. If it were a sprint, I would be concerned about your guy Gingrich, 70 & woefully out of shape.

  • pj2012

    because he IS the last great hope for AMERICA…

    Who want’s slick? Not me… do you? Give me a REAL human being, and honest, and humble conservative, I say lets say NO to the Posers and YES to Rick Perry!!

  • clowngirl

    Besides that he’s accumulated a lot of executive experience running his various companies.

    Then there’s his leadership in 94 and the fact he’s made a study of public policy for (hasn’t it been?) his entire time out of office – and traveling to get first hand knowledge. I got on his “American Solutions” mailing list back in 2008 and I remember him writing one article about a trip to China he’d just taken and thinking “Newt’s almost certainly going to run for President.” (which was really probably obvious to everyone ) The first time I found myself strongly thinking he *should* run for President was before the TARP vote. Every Republican not in office was speaking out against it, but Newt also sent out a 6 point plan for an alternative solution that was conservative and didn’t involve any bailouts.

    Seeing that sent out so quickly ( I think on the very first day) I remember being impressed with his ready knowledge and thinking he had both the deep knowledge and the creative thinking to quickly apply it that was needed to effectively respond in a crisis. ( I wonder, in retrospect, if McCain choosing to support Newt’s plan rather than TARP might’ve meant we’d now be planning for his reelection campaign)

    Anyway, my point is a couple of things 1) Newt’s experience doesn’t remotely compare to Obama’s in 2008. He not only has a history of very significant actual achievements, rose to a higher office, executive experience, etc. but an extraordinary breadth and depth of knowledge and problem solving skills that Obama can’t touch #2. I agree with you that a lot of people most likely got re-interested in Newt from watching him speak, but while Obama traded on a bunch of meaningless say nothing platitudes and on milking the dissatisfaction with Bush, Gingrich has made an impression because people are attracted to his ideas, persuasiveness and substance. In other words, it’s not a shallow rock-star, he puts a chill up my leg type thing- he’s showing that he really does have deep understanding, good ideas and the ability to articulate them.

  • Lesstressrx

    I’m going for a Perry/ Newt ticket!

  • Tbone

    Those to egos would create a black hole of condescension.

  • Scope

    in this Sat. debate. From the Cuccinelli Compass-

    Presidential Debate

    If you haven?t heard by now, Ken is one of three State Attorneys General who will be questioning several of the presidential candidates in a televised forum on the Fox News Channel this coming Saturday evening, December 3rd at 8pm-9:30pm EST. Mike Huckabee is joining them as well to host the event.

    Ken, along with Oklahoma Attorney General Scott Pruitt and Florida Attorney General Pam Bondi, will question each candidate individually on a range of issues from federalism to regulatory and constitutional issues.

    And unlike the typical debate format, candidates will actually have enough time to answer the questions fully (what a concept!) and without interruption (really!). It?s going to be an exciting event so I hope you?ll be able to tune in!

    Questions about federalism, regulatory, and constitutional issues, yeah. Perry should do very well with those questions. The candidates will get the time they need to answer the questions, and without interruptions, what a concept.

    BTW, Cuccinelli (Cooch) has thrown his hat in the ring to primary Bill Bolling, the current VA Lt. Gov., for the 2013 Governors race. Very very early prediction, Cooch walks with it in a landslide.

  • http://www.changeforrickperry.org louisianapatriette

    I liked him! Talk about a straight shooter! I love his line about Japanese robots. I also watched some of The Five (little sisters love the arguments–quite entertaining) and Dana Perino predicted a Perry comeback. So yeah, I’m having a good day ;)

  • Common_Cents

    He has an obama birther posse.

    Perry needs to distance himself from birther stuff quickly.

  • Common_Cents

    Rasmussen poll released today. 1000 likely polled.

    38 Gingrich +21
    17 Romney
    8 Cain
    8 Paul
    4 Perry
    4 Bachmann
    4
    3

    Gingrich +21

  • federalfarmer1

    When it comes to nondivine beings we should be wise as snakes.

  • gator_hoo

    I think you hit the nail on the head with Perry. I think Perry’s highest political aspiration was governor of Texas. Frankly, if he was planning on running for president, it didn’t make a lot of sense to run for a third term as governor.

    I think that Perry entered for a reason that a lot of people are talking about, there weren’t strong non-Romney candidates. So, he entered, thinking the same thing a lot of people think – we had 2010 for THIS? I think he entered to have a strong conservative with a record of winning in the race. He came in to take out Romney. What he didn’t anticipate was getting hammered on the right by the candidates whose views are purportedly conservatives.

    (as an aside, the only ticket I would have serious doubts about voting for would be a Romney/ Bachman ticket. She has sold conservatism down the river in hopes for her 30 pieces of silver— a shot at VP. She may be more dangerous to conservatives than Romney.).

    I like Perry a lot. You are right that he will be plenty happy to return to Texas, and Texas will be happy to keep him. But frankly, America needs him a lot more than Texas does right now.

  • esquip17

    You know, I really like Perry and think he is awesome as governor of Texas.

    The two strongest candidates for the Presidency are Romney, Huntsman, and Gingrich and Paul as dark horses.

    I know that Red State is the Perry campaign headquarters, and is less concerned about winning the White house, but thats how it is.

    Here’s your list of heinous offenses for Romney

    a) ambiguous global warming comments.
    b) evolutionary conscious on states rights/choice
    c) Market mechanism s in Mass. Health care.

    Wow!! How Liberal!

    Cut the crap Red Staters!!

  • bzip

    It was a great speech. Perry is right on the money as usual. We have to have faith and hope people stick with principles, values and consistent conservatism.

    Thanks for the embedding of the speech.

    Perry 2012

  • bzip

    I had read the politico item on Perry’s ad but didn’t see the LA times. I think this is great, a true humble guy who knows how to take the knocks and keep fighting away. This is a leader.

  • federalfarmer1

    Texas barbecue style!

  • esquip17

    I second that sentiment!

  • Tennessean

    Well done Sir.

  • omegamale

    I understand the “Not Romney” sentiment, but can that wing of the Party at least concede a few points:

    A) Gingrich has taken the same positions as Romney that the base despises (individual mandate, global warming etc.)

    B) That’s it’s impossible for a Republican to make social conservative arguments when his personal life is a train wreck (ie hard to argue for traditional mariage and family when you’re Newt)

    C) That Team Obama is SALIVATING at the prospect of running against Gingrich

    Everyone keeps mentioning the debates, but Bush lost nearly every debate badly and still was a two term President. However much Gingrich shines in the debates will be overshadowed by his very shady past.

    At the end of the day, I’m voting Republican no matter who we pick against Obama, but Republicans would be suicidal to nominate someone like Gingrich with so much baggage. Can we at least unite behind someone who has a prayer at beating Obama?

  • gekster

    No one hears you.

    Or better yet, turn it into beating a dead horse.
    I know you can bring it to life and ride it off into the sunset.

  • 1bunny

    he’s humble, funny and sticks to his beliefs. How awesome to have him for our president especially after the one we now have. I got an email earlier to sign up for the Perry canvas. It looks like he will have articles, ads etc for everyone to email, tweet, facebook and post a link on your website. A recent article I read said he has the advantage in the use of social media. So go to his site rickperry.org and sign up to be part of spreading the word.

  • 1bunny

    The Posse is for Iowa or a new email I just recieved says to sign up to be part of the Perry Canvas. It posts different articles, ads etc with a way to email, facebook, tweet and post a link on your website (if you have one). This is a great way to spread the positive messages about Perry and bypass the MSM.

  • carolynr

    That’s not the position he is staking out at all. What I find most amusing is that ALL of the candidates are experts on a situation that they know little about, i.e., Bachmann/Gingrich/Romney with the ENTIRE FENCE bs. Perry is merely stating that he, rather than the others can secure the border…BECAUSE HE IS DOING SO OUT OF THE STATE’S POCKET.

    He knows what the Constitution says…protect and defend our borders. Obama is not doing that. He has said that he will shut down the border within 12 months…and because he has the largest border with Mexico…somehow….I think he knows what he is talking about…rather than “below the radar” Mitty or Gingrich…who would have neighborhood voting on legality of Illegals…wherein…within a few months…neighborhoods would be at odds with who stays and goes…and whalla..carnage in our towns.

  • citizenkh

    As in Mary Landrieu’s former campaign manager?

    As in the pollster who always shows Dem candidates closer in the polls here in Louisiana than they really are?

    Oh, puhleeeeeeze show someone who is credible.

  • http://www.changeforrickperry.org louisianapatriette

    Texabama said it best. As a Louisianian, i think I can say with a fair degree of credibility that some folks down here are, to put it nicely, intellectually lazy. It’s sad but it’s the truth, and I’ve seen it for myself in various settings. Smartest thing this state did was elect Bobby Jindal. Gingrich is also something of a “good ole boy,” I think, to some people, never mind his bill at Tifanny’s. I reckon most of the folks I know don’t even know about that. On the other hand, I know folks who really like Perry, so I don’t think we’ve given up on him as a state.

  • unclefred

    Only early primaries/caucuses the majority will be winner take all. Florida did itself no favors moving up since that will cost it 1/2 its delegates.

    Odds strongly favor the outcome that by the time we get to the winner take all primaries we’ll be down to three viable candidates for the nomination.

  • unclefred

    when polled by regular pollsters ( I have a hard time calling most of then scientific) the results are that Perry got virtually none of the Cain voters.

  • Scope

    and it is no surprise at all that CC would be the one to do it. There is a huge gigantic difference between Perry and Fred. I backed Fred in 08, and was well aware that he really didn’t want the nomination. Fred didn’t want to get on the campaign trail, and spend days and weeks away from home. Perry has been on the campaign trail, has been away from home most of the time, has had townhall after townhall. Perry has been camped out in Iowa, with some trips to NH, and other places in the meantime, and then he’s back in Iowa.

    Your comparison of Perry to Fred is totally off base, and untrue. Perry is working hard to try to win the nomination. Perry also has the money and organization that Fred never bothered to set up. I was constantly putting gas in Fred’s red truck to get him the next set of ads, or to the next state.

  • avagreen

    http://voices.yahoo.com/polls-hillary-clinton-leading-democratic-presidential-655844.html

    http://tpmelectioncentral.talkingpointsmemo.com/2008/02/hillary_leading_obama_in_one_c.php

    http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20070711042945AA1bA0w

    http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20080116211023AAb5WZT
    It’s not that close. According to a average of Real Clear Politics polls Hilliary has 45%, Obama 18% and Edwards at 9%. Hilliary will win Nevada and then Obama will win SC and we’ll be back at square one.

  • retire05

    You say “WE WANT OBAMA OUT!!!”. Then you go on to say that Perry does not appear to be able to accomplish that number one goal.

    Perhaps you can tell us where you purchase your crystal balls that give you the ability to know what is in the future? Because to be real honest with you, we don’t know that any of the GOP candidates can beat Obama. It is amazing to me that Obama’s approval rating is still in the 40′s, but it is.

    But you also seem to put lots of stock into someone’s ability to perform well on a stage. I suggest you vote for Tom Selleck or Clint Eastwood. They are both Republicans and both are great performers, since that seems to be what you are looking for.

    As for me; I researched the candidates histories and frankly, I don’t care of they have a stuttering problem, the only candidate that actually has a history of governing as a conservative and can give us proof of the pudding is the very candidate you discount because he is not Oscar material.

  • lizzie

    Rio Grande.

    I keep waiting for Rick Perry to give America a lesson in how to read a map.

    I posted that somewhere else -as a question how one builds a double-walled electrified fence in the middle of a 1,200 mile BIG River, and someone actually suggested “piranha or crocodiles”

    The GOP needs to remember 1) jobs, 2) repeal Obamacare, and 3) the deficit.

    every other issue is distractive :)

    btw, the liberal media is being nicer to Perry than the conservatives. Except for WaPo – I think Romney must own WaPo.

    I just got The New Yorker, and the satire feature “Shouts and Murmurs” is titled ” “Oops”: The Debates Quiz ” but the actual questions skewer the others far more than Perry. Alas, you need to be a subscriber to take the quiz online.
    http://www.newyorker.com/online/blogs/newsdesk/2011/11/gop-quiz-paul-slansky.html

    Brian Burrough’s Vanity Fair profile of Perry already spurred The Atlantic
    to do a very thorough correlation between when Perry wears cowboy boots and when he wears comfort shoes with his debates and other venues.
    http://www.theatlanticwire.com/politics/2011/12/what-rick-perrys-footwear-tells-us/44595/

    Jon Stewart stopped that n-word rock story cold. Oct. 3 “The Amazing Racism: Geographical Bigotry”

    Well, enough from the Blue Dog who wanders into Red State.

  • avagreen

    Absolutely correct.

    No comparison. Might as well as compare a tortoise to a hare because they are both on the same road.

  • bzip

    Sometimes I wonder if Newt is rigging the polls like he tried to do with his tweeter account, or the alleged tweaking of his tweeter account :-) .

    Oh heck, there are way too many undecided at this point and the poop is just hitting the fan for Newt’s baggage. I wouldn’t say anything till after Iowa and then it still is unclear.

  • determinedconservative

    Everyone’s been told Perry is over, and as I keep watching the polls and hoping for a resurgence, it’s just not there (I think in the latest national poll he is down to four percent). It’s really depressing, because although I am not a hardcore Perry partisan like a lot of people here (there are several other candidates I’d support ahead of him if they were running), he looks to me like the only real conservative in the race who’s a plausible nomineee.

    But it sure looks like Newt caught fire at the right time. When I watch that video though, it makes me want to cry in my beer. A year ago I was so hopeful that this party was finally getting shook up. Why can’t we nominate a real conservative who is not a Washington insider? Sigh.

  • lizzie

    that’s all.

    well, with all due respect ava, I knew how lousy a senator she was, and I did not want another Clinton losing Congress, but, by May, 2008, I understood why Hillary would have been better than Obama, especially on the economy and keeping Pelosi in check, and would never have let health insurance reform take center stage over jobs.

    try to remember that Hillary was a Goldwater Girl in 1964, when she was in college.

    She really was a terrible Senator. Only interested in raising money so she could spend it on lavishness. I was so angry once that I sent an email that was almost a suicide note. Then I got worried that someone might actually read it and send the NYPD. Then I remembered that no one ever read her constituent mail unless a check was enclosed.

  • determinedconservative

    I would love that, but what’s the evidence? He’s down to four percent in the polls. Anecdotally I personally have friends who got out the Exacto knife and removed Perry bumper stickers from their cars. No joke.

  • lizzie

    My first protest voting!

    just to clarify why I was so angry with her do-nothingness. I had watched her in a Senate Armed Services hearing whern there was a serious backlog on re-fitting Humvees for Iraq. The Bronx is the best place on earth to get any kind of vehicle fixed. So, I wrote to suggest she try to establish a new repair depot in The Bronx to help with this backlog that was causing deaths of our soldiers, and maybe help the poorest urban county in America.

    And all I got were monthly requests for campaign funds.

    and here I am…I WANT to vote for Rick Perry.
    Anyone else will be a protest vote.
    Except Romney – no way.

  • determinedconservative

    n/t

  • pj2012

    Faith is for Jesus?

    I reserve my god given free will to have faith in whomever and whatever I choose, including the goodness or thinking process of humans if I choose.

  • ghostship

    I understand the notion of voting for whoever wins the GOP nomination but electing a moderate Republican for President can actually be worse. At least with the Democrats in control of the WH the GOP feels that it must offer some token opposition.

    If you put a moderate Republican in the WH then not only does that token opposition disappear but the GOP will decide it must also support the moderate’s big government agenda just because he has an R beside his name.

    Besides most people are not political junkies. If you want to get them enthused and go out to the polls and vote you need to give them something to vote for instead of something to vote against. The GOP needs a better message than our guy doesn’t stink as much as the other guy.

  • http://www.changeforrickperry.org louisianapatriette

    “Get Ready For A Perry Comeback”
    http://www.afa.net/Blogs/BlogPost.aspx?id=2147514172

    “New Hampshire voters think Perry can rise above mistakes”
    http://www.eagletribune.com/latestnews/x1331361440/NH-voters-think-Perry-can-rise-above-mistakes

    15,000 Iowans call in to Sheriff Joe and Rick Perry’s conference call, discussing immigration
    http://iowacaucus.com/2011/11/29/in-call-with-iowans-sheriff-joe-endorses-perry-for-border-security-opposition-to-illegal-immigration/

    My wonderful governor Bobby Jindal predicts a Perry comeback
    http://politics.blogs.foxnews.com/2011/12/01/jindal-plenty-time-perry-comeback

    600+ Texans heading to Iowa for the Strike Force
    http://www.dallasnews.com/news/politics/perry-watch/headlines/20111130-exclusive-perry-posse-of-hundreds-of-texans-heading-north-for-push-to-win-iowa.ece

    People still believe in Perry. Very much so. I was watching “The Five” this afternoon and even Dana Perino predicted a Perry comeback. When Newt’s ego (or his past, and I’m not just talking about his dalliances) get him some flack, folks will be looking for another alternative. Perry will be there for them, and he will be much better-prepared this time.

    If we believe Perry is the best candidate, friends, then we MUST put our weight behind him. Otherwise we’re just sitting on the sidelines forcing him to do ALL the work. Granted, he must persuade people to vote for him. But those of us who know his record, who love him as a Tea Party conservative–we must stand by him through thick and thin and do OUR part in seeing him get the nomination. Otherwise we’re just settling for warmed-over-big-government-conservatives a la George Bush (take your pick, daddy or son).

    If you love the idea of Perry getting a second look, then please consider throwing your full-fledged support behind him again. Our family’s motto for the year is this: “Do the work so we can win the war and reap the rewards.” We need to do the work; we need to battle intellectual laziness, the Establishment, and Obama, so God willing our children can live in a free country. Even if we can’t go to Iowa, we can and should be working on Perry’s behalf in our own little circles, from our laptops, etc.

    Bobby Jindal said today that he still believes Rick Perry will be the nominee. If Bobby Jindal isn’t worried, then I’m not, and I am more determined than ever to do my little bit. Go forth and conquer!

  • nathanalbright

    I’ve been looking for this video since yesterday :B.

  • cheetah2

    is on a mission to save his country. He and his team want to win alright.

    If they just didn’t care they could have quietly faded away after Perry committed the worst debate gaffe in the history of the world. Instead Perry and his team went into instant and complete damage control.

    Imagine how difficult that was to be out there right after the debate and then early the next morning facing reporters. He didn’t have to do that and he would not have done it if he didn’t care greatly.

    I only hope I will get the chance to caucus for him in my state in March. I will be a happy camper if so!

  • jmcmd

    We are deluding ourselves if we think the MSM is going to treat any Republican fairly. We need to stop firing on our own and start making this election a refendum on BHO and his brand of socialism. If we pick our candidate on the basis of how the MSM will treat them then we have already lost. Last night on Hannity, Newt made it clear that he would go after Obama’s baggage. I think Newt has been around the block enough to be able to take a punch and throw a few himself. I’m not sure any other candidate can beat Obama in a debate and play hardball.

  • cheetah2

    :)

  • http://www.changeforrickperry.org louisianapatriette

    I just don’t see where EE is getting the impression that the Perry campaign isn’t fighting for this. Seems to me they’re fighting like mad. The drumbeat is getting louder: “Perry will make a comeback, Perry will make a comeback.” I think he’ll be much more prepared for the attention and the scrutiny this time. He’s been through a lot these past few weeks, but he’s had the opportunity to stay under the radar for a few weeks and build himself back up. He’ll be a much stronger and more capable candidate because of it.

    I sympathize with you, as my state’s primary isn’t until late March as well. Ugh! Oh well…this will still be one happy Perry supporter casting a vote in his favor. This will be the first time I’ve EVER voted for president; thank goodness I have someone I can support wholeheartedly. Four years ago I would have been bored out of my mind with that flock of candidates.

  • barleycorn

    The problem is he flails about like a wounded mallard when he is forced to address issues while on his feet.

  • sunshinek67

    No, we do not allow the msm to choose our candidates, which is why I am ignoring these current media push polls, and the media narrative that Rick Perry’s campaign is over. Problem for Gingrich, and Republicans, is that the msm is relentless and well coordinated to go after any candidate we come up with, need one with less baggage. The daily 24/7 onslaught is not going to be pretty on Newt Gingrich. He provides an arsenal for the enemy combatants.

    Gingrich may have an R next to his name but his record is all over the place. I would put Rick Perry’s record, professional AND personal, against Newt Gingrich’s any day. Primaries are a vicious lengthy survivor episode. I have watched my candidate of choice stumble, fumble and plummet in these media push polls, granted he gave some ammo to the enemy to be sure. Still has the best conservative record.

    His brain freeze, voter age flub, whatever the case may be for the days news cycle, does absolutely nothing to dilute my support for him. I will never invalidate his near perfect record of success. He can “lose” the next 10 debates, misspeak on the stump every day, and I will still support him. He simply has the best record on that stage, and his personal life is intact. As we have seen firsthand, the best debater does not always transcend to the best leadership. And I fear that a Newt Gingrich Presidency will be wrecked by scandal and secrecy. Want to know how a man will lead, look at his past.

    At the end of the day, character matters. Period~

  • lizzie

    over her bill to stop insider trading by Congress, and then her spox condescended back (the Pelosi method), but then the Senate voted 100% to sanction Iran’s Central Bank & National Public Radio was forced to mention that Perry made that point at the Nov. 12 debate,

    and somehow Perry was fundraising in California today.

    Romney picked up $300,000 in Mississippi.

    You can’t make this stuff up.

    Meanwhile, the Islamists won Egypt’s parliament.

    Kind of nice to see Iranians burning the UK flag before they burned Israel’s flag…US flag came in third.

  • omegamale

    I think Perry is a weaker general election nominee than Romney, but at least he

    A) Doesn’t have a family of skeletons in his closet
    B) Has a pretty consistent conservative record (except for illegal immigration)
    C) Has executive experience as Governor of such a large state

    I can understand conservatives uniting behind Perry instead of Romney over policy issues, but I can’t make heads or tails about the “Not Romney” voters who are suddenly behind Gingrich.

    Newt has the worst of everything, he would be the equivalent of the Democrats nominating Nancy Pelosi for President, but with the added bonus of numerous sex scandals. (shudder)

    Just as Herman Cain is finding out, you can’t be President with multiple sex scandals, and we’ve only scratched the surface with Newt. I wouldn’t be surprised in the least to see multiple, additional women coming forward.

  • avagreen

    Thanks for the headsup.

  • windwaker24

    that Newt is done in the cheating department. 1) He’s 68 years old. 2) Calista looks like she would scratch his eyes out if he looked at another woman.

  • http://www.hakubi.us/ Neil Stevens

    Some of us though that about Ms. Rodham.

  • windwaker24

    I tend to see her as a manipulator like her husband. They are the perfect pair.

  • gracie

    Lookin for a way to do more.

  • omegamale

    I know we are way to sophisticated to care about a First Lady, but how do you think most female voters are going to regard a home-wrecking bimbo intern nearly 30 years younger than Newt and his then current wife?

    GOP voters really need to think this through, because we already have a gender gap problem anyway. You add this to the mix, and you’re looking at a landslide at the top of the ticket, which means we also lose the House.

  • nathanalbright

    …to minimize the role of his wife in his campaign, but at the same time that sort of question opens up Newt’s personal life to unfriendly scrutiny.

  • texasref

    I’m not ruling anyone out solely on poll numbers. She’s smart, solid on our issues, and Rush likes her a lot. So does Glenn Beck. I think the Gardasil shrillness is forgiveable.

  • tomatin

    Perry who she lied about deserves a 2nd look way before Bachmann.

  • texasref

    Provide your evidence / cite so I can be enlightened more adequately, please. Specifics.

  • avagreen

    Perry got thunderous applause, whistles when he made his points on every item…….this from the “liberal LA” audience. When he made his jokes, they laughed and applauded.

    Don’t tell me about the fixed polls…..they stink!!!

    This response is what people ARE REALLY feeling about Perry!! Even in LA!

  • JSobieski

    She comes across as a rigid ideologue who doesn’t try to solve problems. Classic example:

    She pounds her chest as being so tough on the deficit that she refuses to raise the debt ceiling by a penny. That is fine as it goes, but does she propose a plan that would alleviate the need to raise the debt ceiling? No. Does she propose specific cuts? No. When Gretta tries to pin her down on entitlement reform, Bachmann backtracks on her support of the Ryan plan (which is relatively tepid and would require increasing the debt ceiling), and then hedges her support with “an asterisk” if it puts seniors at risk.

    She is the epitme of Republicans who talk tough on spending, while personally collecting farm subsidies.

    So Bachmann is great at talking the biggest game possible, but makes no attempt to achieve real directional movement. She is in many ways like Ron Paul, she talks a lot and accomplishes little.

    That is fine for Congress. We need a good “no way in hell” caucus. However, a President doesnt have the luxery. I think Bachmann is not well suited for the job, and I would take her only above Ron Paul.

  • onemovoter

    And his time as Speaker of the House. It didn’t take long for him to get such a big head and start doing things he shouldn’t have been doing, that the GOP in the house THREW him out of the speakership.

    That is Newt’s consistency is to get a big ego, want to do all sorts of things and get into trouble. That is not a person who you want as President. He’d be as bad as Obama is.

    I’ve been following twitter feeds and it’s really getting ugly for Newt. I predict within 2 weeks that Newt will say something that will make him implode. He’s already made a few comments today that are highly dubious and showing his ego. Seriously it’s that bad.

  • dsea

    I see Perry putting his feet to work and I hope that pays off for him. When the others get caught up in media traps, justifying themselves and what-not he is usually out somewhere taking care of business. I find the work he encompasses behind the scenes to be steadfast. He is not parading in a pony show. Kudos to him. The address he recently gave to the House of Representatives in New Hampshire is worth watching. I think it was a bold move and not one of just accepting an invitation from anyone who will invite him. It was a good move. It might be too far removed from most of our minds that the House of Representatives on state levels is our last (legal) line of defense. He’s busy working on our behalf. Don’t expect any media coverage for this or things like it. I think the other candidates, focusing on their campaigns, raise there hands waiting for media attention. Frankly, I would be disappointed if Perry behaved in that fashion. I truly believe he is focused and is concerned about the country more than he is his campaign. I hope he can rally an awakening and stir people up all across the country. He should however, remain a person of integrity.

  • avagreen

    the big ego, not willing to listen to others, the arrogance, then that remark to his wife (he was divorcing) to listen to what he said and not what he did, and then his seeming to join with the Obama team after O first got elected.

    I could understand when he was drummed out of office why he was.

  • californiagold

    Newt Gingrich as the republican nominee would all but guarantee the reelection of Barack Obama. In fact, I’d go so far as to say Mitt Romney might be a less objectionable alternative than Newt. If republican primary voters can’t choose a better nominee than either of these two guys, we deserve to lose.

    Having said that, there are a few candidates worth consideration. Rick Perry and Jon Huntsman. The Perry problems are well documented, and Huntsman has yet to gain traction – but either one of these candidates would be far better choices than Gingrich or Romney.

    What conservatives need to do in future presidential election cycles is reform the primary nominating process state by state. Until major reform is done, conservatives will continue to be forced to vote for establishment big government republicans.

  • onemovoter

    What Gingrich Romney and Obama have in common

    It goes over much of Newt’s overall record.

  • annie54

    except for Rick Perry. I think he is further along than is realized. He has made a lot of profound statements which have been criticized, but now they’re being used by others; i.e. Bernacke, ponzi scheme, China, insider trading, immigration, Zero $ to other countries and many, many more. They’re not giving Perry credit for them but anyone who has watched the debates know where they came from.

    I think Rick had some learnin’ and humblin’ that had to be taken care of. He had to realize that “Toto, we’re not in Texas anymore!” I’ll say this – he is sure the best looking man in the bunch and he looks gorgeous in clothes!

    He will peak again. Having been married to a basketball coach for 30 years, I’ll always remember what he said about peaking too soon at tournament time. Gingrich is peaking too soon. I believe Rick’s coming out party will be the Dec 10 debate, followed by the Dec 15 debate, then Christmas, then the Iowa Caucus. If he doesn’t win Iowa, it’s okay.

    Could it be that voters will be so weary of hearing the fake verbatim that they will be ready for the Governor’s plain talk?

  • tomatin

    and telling her the HPV vaccine caused her daughters retardation for one.

    She even walked back the remarks after she said it.

  • tomatin

    You can say nominating Newt wiill “all but guarantee Obama’s reelection” but you can’t get away without saying why.

  • davesinsanantonio

    a moderate Republican in the White House you won’t have all the destructive executive orders, and you will probably have moderate federal judges and SC justices appointed instead of the radicals that Obummer will continue to appoint. So, even a spineless RINO in the White House is better than the guy who is now trying to destroy this country. What part of “we’re going to radically transform America” do you not understand?????

  • Change Jar Conservative

    First off, let’s be clear about Newt’s appeal:

    1) He is a solutions guy when the country is desperate for one. I wrote back in late 2007 that 2008 might be the time for a “solutions” president like Newt or Guiliani. Katrina was a fresh disaster, the wars were dragging on, and it seemed like a time when people would go for someone with plans. I was one presidential cycle early.

    2) We want someone who seems up to the job. Newt seems like that guy. Perry, despite his experience and his ideas, seems overwhelmed by the Presidential run. It is in part, the debates, but it also is his inability to stay on script.

    3) Everyone wants to go back to the 1990s. Give credit to who you wish. The Dems wish they had Bill Clinton (or at least Hillary Clinton again) and somewhere in the GOP psyche is the remembrances of Good Newt.

    But let’s be clear on Perry as well:

    1) I think that Eric hits it on the head about Perry when he talks about his people not being hungry. There seems a deliberate attempt to corral him at times.

    2) Perry needs to do two kinds of speeches. #1) He needs to do three to five minute speeches every time he touches down and he should touch down a lot. Those speeches need to include one noteworthy issue that will cause the media to pick up the issue. #2) He needs to do thirty minute speeches on one to two topics that interest specific audiences in Iowa and New Hampshire and South Carolina. Iowa because he needs a win and conservatives want to get behind him, New Hampshire because he needs to be seen as unafraid to go into the Northeast, and South Carolina because he has an opportunity there to get back into the top two or three in at least one state poll.

    3) I don’t know if the rumors are true about the back surgery and the pain meds, but if it is, they need to do something. Maybe build in a two day a week break where they can increase the meds/treatment and then five days off where he is on ibuprofen. Something is leading to inconsistency and they need to address it.

    4) We need to see Perry in the rock star settings like when he did the event with Hannity in Texas a couple of years ago. He was amazing.

    My list remains:
    Daniels (brokered convention or late re-entrance)
    Perry
    Gingrich
    Romney

    BTW, I find it ironic that Daniels was pretty much pushed out of the race because of his “social truce” comments and his wife’s weird leave-and-come-back issues(this being Daniels family’s decision) despite Daniels himself having governed as a pro-lifer and been man enough to forgive his wife and take her back, but we’re close to electing Newt who has had three wives and was often hostile to social conservatives.

  • bzip

    This was a great interview by Rick Perry. It is really worth watching.

    Full Interview: Rick Perry on Jay Leno
    http://www.therightscoop.com/full-interview-rick-perry-on-jay-leno/
    http://www.mrctv.org/videos/rick-perry-jay-leno

  • circlegranch

    I don’t know how to perform tech savvy feats and my old eyes were not open at show time. Thanks again!

  • btpull

    The top three issues are the economy, the economy, and the economy. Where’s the Republican James Carville with “it is the economy stupid” message?

    Instead of looking for a candidate that follows Clinton’s 1992 campaign strategy EE and the RS Perry supports are looking for another George H. W. Bush type of candidate. Family values, pro-life, and character issues did not defeat Clinton in ’92 and they won’t win the White House in 2012.

    If Europe does not implode dragging the world into a recession, if the US economy starts growing at a 4% to 5% pace adding 200,000 to 300,000 jobs per month then Obama is in for a second term.

    If the economy is stuck at a 2% or 2.5% growth rate, if unemployment rate is still hovering at 9+%, then the Republicans need a candidate that can clearly articulate a plan the will lead us out of our economic mess.

  • circlegranch

    he has a geniune way of having a conversation. He was very relaxed and Leno, lib or not, is a good guy to go on with, too. Have rec’d a number of emails from Perry fence-sitters that have watched this at my prompting and all are very favorable. One person wrote, “the guy DOES speak the average American’s language. He can create jobs and he feels as we do that Washington isn’t just broke, its a JOKE. He didn’t come across as trying to be smarter than everybody else–that’s getting old in this race. He can poke fun at himself and show a sense of humor; nobody else in the race really has that. Cain used to come across as humorous but once the joke’s on him, he gets defensive and testy–he refuses to take any responsibility, its never his fault. Too Obama-like. I like Perry. Maybe Leno should monitor some debates so America could see the real Rick Perry!” Another wrote, “OK–I’m on board, now what should I do to help?” My response was, send him some money, get on his email list because he has an excellent team running his website; you’ll get emails everyday that provide articles to share around and keep you informed and feeling positive. Write letters to the editors of Iowa, NH and SC newspapers. Google search for tea party and liberty groups in those states and send them emails. Start a letter (or email) writing campaign to the top management at Focus on the Family in Colorado Springs because an endorsement from them would be hugely influential amongst Christian conservatives and faith-based organizations around the country. Those organizations rely on donations to survive; let them hear from the people they serve and rely upon. Stay on RS as many times a day as you can where you’ll find encouragement, breaking news, links that you can send to your contacts. Email Hannity and other talkers as well as hosts on Fox and demand media fairness and equal coverage of candidates. They, too, can’t survive unless their audiences approve and continue to listen and watch. The guys on our side have gotten a little too comfy of late and assume we won’t notice when they are biased and anything but fair.

    Another idea we’re spreading around is to host a holiday house party either before Christmas or as a New Year’s party and invite people that need to hear the Perry story. Include seniors in the mix that need clarification of the “Ponzi scheme” thing so they understand they are protected and have no need to worry under President Perry. Print out and make copies of articles they should read and have them on the buffet table as take-homes. Create a hand-out with his platform and policies. Print up a bio on Gov. Perry. Go to his website, his Texas govt. website, and www.makeamericagreatagain.com to get specifics. Share his life story and background. Set up a laptop in a corner where people can watch ads, this Leno interview, speeches, etc. Go to your local GOP Hdqtrs and see if you can get bumper stickers, leave them some money as a donation or order through the Perry website if you think they’ll arrive in time. Hand them out, too.

    We proved in ’10 that elections are won and lost based on the turnout and effort and commitment of the grassroots movement. It takes a ground attack by small armies to do big thins. Small donations matter. Neighbor talking to neighbor helps. Most states, even those that are not caucus states have Perry organizations of some level. Find out who those people are, make contact and get an effort rolling. Make some noise and show some muscle in your county; in your state.

    It’s not over.

  • lizzie

    Perry clarified he has not been on pain meds since July in an interview in the LA Times yesterday. I believe that – think his early debate struggles in the second hour were because he was IN pain, and not used to standing still for two hours. Perry is Force of Nature.

    I also think Mitch Daniels might pop out of a brokered convention, but, since I was watching him closely and especially admired not just his record in Indiana, but his courage in sounding the fiscal alarm with that “social truce” caveat. However, I think his wife Cherie’s “leaving” is a story that probably has too much distractive content. Two other hurdles: 1) being Bush43′s Budget Director is tough to reconcile with being a true fiscal conservative.
    and 2) every time I see/hear Daniels on tv, he is smart, but not ready for the 60 second debate hurdles.

    I think Daniels could be someone’s VP – until last night thought Perry’s VP.
    When Perry so quickly said, on Leno, that he was close friends with Huntsman (which I knew about from their RGA days), began to think maybe that could happen.
    Because Gingrich may not survive the 3-wives + maybe a lobbyist last ten years+is he a messy admin.

    Funny you mention Giuliani. I am probably the most liberal on social issues in RedState world, though I have put fiscal issues #1 since 2000.
    I have mostly voted in NYC since 1978, though left for the suburbs in 1991 when the crime was still causing de-population. Giuliani did a great job. BUT, I was outraged when he brought his mistress (now wife) into Gracie Mansion while his wife Donna, and children were IN RESIDENCE. Get a motel in Jersey!

    I moved back in 2001. Rudy tried to cancel the elections in 2001 to stay on in a ‘state of emergency capacity’. 9/11 was the primary election day. Huge blowback on ‘Rudy the dictator’. Also, while NYC had become astonishingly safer, Rudy had had too many serious tribal explosions that he encouraged instead of trying to calm down.

  • nathanalbright

    …or the need to cut unnecessary regulations for a million new jobs…and so on…

  • sunshinek67

    And Perry doesn’t give as much msm ammo as Gingrich, or even Romney to a lesser degree~

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  • avagreen

    Either way, not a reliable person to believe when she’s quoting “facts”.

    Here’s a site to read:
    http://crooksandliars.com/karoli/michele-bachmann-once-again-lies-about-debt

    Consider this:
    http://www.addictinginfo.org/2011/03/23/michele-bachmanns-lies-about-her-history%E2%80%93-is-she-hiding-in-plain-sight/

    and this:
    http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/article/2010/sep/21/bachmann-and-truth-o-meter-collected-works/

    http://www.usnews.com/opinion/blogs/leslie-marshall/2011/06/29/bachmanns-gaffes-and-lies-mean-shes-unfit-for-white-house

  • bzip

    I really enjoyed the Leno appearance by Perry. Perry really is a humble genuine person that everyday folks can relate to. He shares the values and principles as I which even makes it that much easier to connect with him.

    I think this Leno show did Perry a lot of good. I am hearing lots of good things from others who watch Perry last night.

    We have to keep the faith and keep hoping that people take that second look at Perry and discover he is truly the best person for the job.

  • unitedwestood

    I have a problem with Dick Morris these day’s. He’s much like Anne C. Let’s vote for Romney, and not even speak of Perry. Perhaps I’m hyper because he’s my choice, but I feel that the media is again, trying to pick our candidate. I’ve been frustrated with Hannity for some time now on this same issue. He’s in the tank for Romney, and he was last voting season as well. I’m shocked by the amount of conservative talk shows that seem to have already picked Romeny, who is clearly not conservative! Bachman….. I’d have to hold my nose to vote for that.

  • http://www.changeforrickperry.org louisianapatriette

    Every time I read your posts I’m inspired. I can certainly write letters and have done it several times. I hadn’t thought about writing Focus on the Family…guess I know what I’m doing today!

    I’m so glad to hear people were affected in a positive way by this interview. I’ve been praying that hearts and minds would be opened; perhaps that is beginning to happen at last. Praise God!

  • supergirl2911

    And I am, I am of the mind that it is not our job to get him hungry. If EE’s analysis is correct, which it may be, then I am disheartened. Although there is an air of realism in noting the job aspect, I think it may just be their style. I do not know first hand, but I would hope there is not hubris in the campaign. If that is the case and perry does not win the nomination I will brace myself for four moe years. I do not think the election is a shoe in for any republican but I sincerely believed that Perry was the most qualified for the job and the most likely to win against Obama. I do not think any of the others can. And I may be mistaken.

  • rickperryreport

    Gator, I agree with much of your post, that Perry had no immediate intention of running from president this year. I believe Perry’s story on that is truthful. Who would write a book like Fed Up!, and lay down so many controversial positions if they were about to embark on a national campaign?

    Therefore, what you see (and read) from Perry is what you get with Perry. There is no hidden agenda.

    Erick is missing an important piece in his analysis of Perry’s team’s ambition to win. I am just a volunteer, and I volunteered to go up to Iowa for Perry for a week prior to the caucus. It’s an expensive trip!

    I have never really lifted a finger for any other presidential candidate, not even Ronald Reagan. (Well, I wore a Bush/Cheney T-shirt when I worked out throughout 2004…)

    Unlike any other candidate in my lifetime, I have the strongest identity with Rick Perry. We’re both Aggies, Corps of Cadets alums, and military pilots. I’m from west Texas too. I have “oops” moments, and like to shoot guns as well. I feel like Perry embodies people like me, and his not doing well in this election, for me anyway, is personal.

    The country needs more Rick Perrys like me and a lot less of the androgynous girlie-man city types who are in leadership positions in this country. I think the girlie-men sneaked into government under Clinton.

    So hell no we’re not going to lose! It’s way too personal now.

    Joe @ Rick Perry Report

  • Spartan4Life

    Back when he had no chance we got humble thoughtful Newt who didn’t attack and belittle his opponents. We all got sucked in by that Newt and thought, “Hey, I like this guy more than I thought I did!”.

    Now that Newt has become the flavor of the week we are getting the “I am going to be the nominee” full fledged egotistical Newt. Let’s see how he handles his front runner status before we all go hearting him.

    My logic tells me Newt has no chance of winning the presidency. Why would the GOP, in an election that screams for a Washington outsider to run and win, nominate the consummate Washington insider? It just doesn’t compute.

  • bzip

    I initially agreed with EE on this but after reflection I now disagree. I think Rick Perry is hungry to win it. I think EE is right about Perry’s staff knowing they have a job if this fails but I don’t think that is stopping Perry or his staff from the hungry need to win.

    Stop and think about all the long hours and hard work he has put in, all the policies he has put together. What is more interesting is the amount of hard work and time he put into correcting his Opps moment. If Rick Perry wasn’t in it to win it – I seriously doubt he would be working as hard as he is. I see a genuine effort on the part of Rick Perry to win this and that he realizes he mess up and is doing everything he can to correct it and make a come back.

    He has his problems but are extremely minor compared to the other candidates and their baggage and problems. Perry clearly is not only the more consistent conservative but also the most personable candidate.

    Watching the Leno show appearance by Perry – I am even more convinced the Rick Perry is the most personable, humble person in the race and most experienced.

  • circlegranch

    is being reported by Rick Moran at www.americanthinker.com as a blog post (blogs can be found to the right on the main page at American Thinker).

    Moran reports that in contrast, Perry, Paul, Romney, Cain and Huntsman all did make the deadline and filed the required full slate of 40 delegates.

    Moran views this as a relevation of Gingrich’s poor organization and his failure to get a ground game together. Ed Rollins just commented on Fox that Gingrich is poorly organized and that “it’s just him, his wife and a few friends” running his campaign in the early states.

  • Scope

    and it was pointed out that this is yet another example of Gingrich only having the big picture in mind, and that he is not interested in the small but important details, like getting his delegates lined up.

    I’ve also heard that Gingrich has only started setting up any kind of organization in Iowa this week. I don’t know if he has any organization set up in any of the other states. He has only about 30 days until the Iowa cauci, and it would appear to be near to impossible to get any kind of organization set up in that short time period. According to CNN this morning, even if he was depending on new media, facebook, twitter, the internet, he hasn’t even gotten any of that set up either.

  • Scope

    tomorrow night. I guess today is D day for him. He will be getting together with his wife for the first time today since the 13 year affair news broke. Holly Cow, I wouldn’t want to be any where near the Cain household today. I think someone here said something about rolling pins. I would add cast iron frying pans to that scene.

  • supergirl2911

    Team Perry get the word out. Visit www.perry.org and sign up for DAILY email updates. Send to friends… Or foes. Post to fb or twitter (easy links on the canvas page).
    I went to get my hair cut ( in North Georgia close to ATLANTA) and my hairdresser (frequently part of the pulse of a small southern town) did NOT know who perry was and had never heard of him . One reasoning am excited about Perry is before he began to run for President he hosted and promoted a day of prayer and fasting for the nation. I can get behind that. Many evangelicals can so i told her about it.
    Get the word out.

  • circlegranch

    I’m convinced that Romney wants to win because of Mitt Romney. He doesn’t have a fire in the belly desire to save America first. Its about HIM. It’s his turn, his dad didn’t make it so it falls to him to win for the both of them. He talks about “I” all the time, kinda like the current guy in the WH. There’s an ego problem with Romney which is why he made the cover of Time with a caption asking why doesn’t anybody like him.

    Perry is slammed about talking about Texas but listen as he does. He is very clear that it’s been “we” that has accomplished what they have. It’s very true that if he were all about having a long term agenda to be president, he wouldn’t have written Fed Up! Too controversial to appeal to the ever-important elites of the party. Also, he might well have quit his job and not ran for re-election. He could have quit and spent his time fundraising, buying support on Capitol Hill, practicing in front of mirrors, sitting on couches with liberals, and spending 8 hours a day being coached by debate experts. Instead, he stayed in the fight during one of America’s worst crises we’ve known thus far. He stayed in and when he saw that some things they were doing worked, he prayed and talked to people close to him and decided to give it a go. Nobody else was doing it better, were they? He could have quit like Palin did or he could have opted to not run again like Romney chose to do, but he stayed in the trenches and worked through the hard times.

    He made tough decisions. He took on Planned Parenthood and trial lawyers and beat them all. He stood up for veterans and school kids and he stood up to Obama and Napolitano and wasn’t afraid to call them out for failing their duty to secure the border of Texas. He welcomed businesses to Texas, expanded the healthcare industry and numbers of doctors and medical professionals enormously. He had the guts to stand up for Constitutional Carry and earned the endorsement of the NRA and patriots like Ted Nugent. When Hurricane Katrina hit, Gov. Perry was the first to call up Jindahl and say Texas stood at the ready to help, and help they did. Over 200,000 Katrina refugees were bused into Texas cities and given housing, food, necessities and healthcare. Most stayed.

    Rick Perry is a humble servant of God, his family and his country. Values voters that are looking for a candidate, you need look no further than the good and just man that is Rick Perry.

    There is nothing in Perry’s past that indicates he’s been setting his sites on the WH. Instead, he feels compelled at this point in time based on the urgings of his wife, especially, and his family and close friends.

    There are two types of hunger in this race. The hunger to achieve a life long dream, settle a score of one’s father that never realized his life long dream. There’s the hunger that stems from an entitlement mentality. There’s also a hunger that most Americans are experiencing. It’s the hunger for our America to come back to us. The hunger of knowing we must have our Valley Forge moment and do the hard work that seems impossible. We feel the hunger in our bellies that if we don’t do this, we lose America. Plain and simple. We aren’t doing it because ‘its our turn’ or because its only fair that we win, or because all the smart people in our party sit in boardrooms and give us media advantages and lots of money. Our hunger is the one of the true American patriot; the hunger of the working man and woman that fears with every fiber of their soul that ours will be the first generation to fail and give our posterity either a weakened and pathetic America, or worse, hand them a 3rd World country instead.

    Hunger? Yes, there’s hunger in this race but there’s a stark difference between personal gluttony and true hunger that occurs after hard work and expending energy for a cause that must prevail.

    Rick Perry for President 2012.

  • supergirl2911

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  • Scope

    Block knows where all the dead bodies are hidden, so to speak. I’m still wondering what is going on with the SEC investigation of Block’s organization funding Cain’s campaign in the beginning, illegally. I believe Block is also the one that brought the Koch Bros. to Cain.

    Had you read the article where one of Romney’s aides said they wanted Cain to stay right where he was, and they didn’t want any oppo research coming out, because he helped to keep Perry down? Many of us here have wondered for a long time if Romney wasn’t secretly involved with Cain in some way for that exact reason.

    I also disagree with EE in saying that Perry may get a second look, and that he won’t be ready for it. Perry has been working his butt of with his campaign. I’ve seen Perry ads on Fox, and on CNN. He’s been camped out in Iowa for weeks, and has been running ads there for a few weeks. I’ve also read that he has a fantastic organization set up in Iowa, unlike Gingrich who is just getting started there.

  • circlegranch

    and that is, in his defense of his relationship with this latest woman, he appears to be a guy that freely throws around money to people perhaps not worthy. Both this person and the one that did the presser with Gloria Allred both are supposedly chronic scammers with personal lawsuits and such. How did these people always find their way to Herman Cain? Where was his judgment to make sure when he took money away from his own family to help these people that he was not just supporting a scam but rather, actually doing good for a hurting soul. It’s been pretty easy to find out the backgrounds of these women now, did he do any investigation and background checks before handing over money to them? Also, why would a man give money to a woman without telling his wife?

    He claims he did does this all the time. That bothers me. Will he be scammed by every bleeding heart once he’s in the Oval Office? If he throws around money with wild abandon to anybody that shows up with a hard luck story, he sure ain’t gonna balance our budget in my book. He’s got a long way to go to prove that he’s not a soft touch for every stranger that finds him and gets his ear long enough to tell them how bad off they are. He’s been quick to discredit this woman now that he’s caught, but where was his discernment back when she was calling and asking for money and apparently he was sending it? I think his innocence or lack thereof is none of my business, but his judgment in giving away money without apparently doing some serious investigation is. If he’ll spend his money that freely, what’s to say he won’t be even more generous with ours?

  • Scope

    that Cain has admitted that he knew this woman for 13 years, and said yes that he gave her money, but he never told his wife is awful. Hannity asked him if there were going to be more women coming forward, he said he didn’t know and that he has helped many people, both men and women. I don’t know how much money he was giving her, but he said something about helping to pay her rent, and was helping her to find a job. That old job excuse again. How many wives would not be PO’d at their husband for not telling them they were giving the families money away to others for any reason? How many husbands would be PO’d if their wives were giving money away to a member of the opposite sex for years, and never told them about it? It’s the fact that he has publically admitted that his wife didn’t know anything about this 13 year “friendship” that has been most damaging.

    I seriously doubt he is collecting many donations now with his signaling that he is reassessing his campaign. I heard him say last night that they had to figure out what they would do with the donations. If that doesn’t mean he is quitting, I don’t know what does. I honestly believe that he has been hinting to his supporters for the last few days that he is getting out, without just getting on TV and saying that’s it folks, that’s all she wrote.

  • Scope

    that ol Herm had a secret checking account that his wife didn’t know about, but now she does. Ooooopppps.

  • kliff

    She needs some new colleagues ….maybe 80 more like 2010. I’m 100% sure that she would have held the conservative line much better than that crying bag of crap who currently holds the position.

  • supergirl2911

    In increasing time and commitment. I did not know newts baggage. I knew ( from being inGA) about infidelity to a wife. I am (over 30) not knowledgable about ethic complaints, did not remember him leaving house early (although it did sound familiar) and did not know where he stood on anything except sounding interesting on Hannity. Part of his appeal in that role was he was not running for office. I write this to support he notion that people have short memories and do not know about newt except to stay calm and sound good in debates and take it to the media. I hope it takes more than that to win but this may be our responsibility.

  • 1bunny

    up a huge bill for chartered planes back home each night when he first started campaigning, maybe Callista doesn’t trust him not to stray. And I don’t think age matter’s to the male p***is.

  • supergirl2911

    The bible says trust in the Lord. Love men but no where does it say to trust them. The point being we are all flawed and make mistakes ( worse than a brain freeze) but at the end of it all to trust God.

  • carolynr

    Hope that is allowed. About my spider comment concerning Newt…,now…go look at this. Again…we are electing the same old crap. Watch Newt try to change to perception of global warming…right after he said that the global warming issue has not been proven ON HIS HOUR LONG SPECIAL WITH HANNITY.
    People…TPM…Look at who you want…you just want the same garbage recycled. We need energy in this country…AND KNOW WHAT…no more subsidies for Iowa…there’s a food shortage…grow your corn for food and stop ruining our engines. This is not one of my better posts…..I am so mad. I knew he was for global warming with that sit down with Pelosi…but this guy lied. PEOPLE…ARE WE SICK OF LIARS…Time for a GOOD LOOK AT PERRY. Get this info out there.

    http://www.politico.com/news/stories/1211/69570.html

  • http://www.changeforrickperry.org louisianapatriette

    When we say “Keep the faith” or “Have faith in [insert candidate's name here]” we’d probably be better to say, “Trust the Lord but don’t give up on [insert candidate's name here].” Oliver Cromwell put it best: “Keep your faith in God, but keep your powder dry.”

  • avgjo

    Thus says the LORD; Cursed be the man that trusts in man, and makes flesh his arm, and whose heart departs from the LORD.

  • supergirl2911

    I was under impression he disappeared ran awa and his for about ten years. He changed church moved got married and came back when many who worked with him were gone. When did he leave the house? Why? What did he do? Who paid him for what since 2000? I do not know the answers to ANY of these question and I have no doubt that there are more to be asked.

  • irishgirl

    I’m in Texas. Can’t get to Iowa when and where they’re wanting and needing people for the ir Strike Force. But am on list to go to Austin for Jan 3 to work phone bank. Also taking 22-year old daughter! Go Perry!

  • supergirl2911

    Than Romney or Newt. They both really turns me off.

  • circlegranch

    I’ve maintained for weeks that he was a spoiler for Romney. His job was to attract the tea party vote and once they were in his back pocket, he’d deliver them to Mitt. The surge of Newt creates a condundrum to that theory. Is there a Third Party candidate warming up in the bull pen that Cain might like to support? The other boys on the stage haven’t really done much to back him up in his troubles. And, during the Thanksgiving FAmily Forum, several of us heard Cain mutter, “Mitt who?” when Luntz suggested having Romney’s opinion would be helpful. Who knows. He’s backed in a corner now and other than the radio talkers continuing to provide cover, he’s kinda out there on his own. It should be interesting. I think there’s a chance he’ll try to hang in through Iowa, drop all the money there to try and stay relevant and then if that doesn’t work, the money is spent and he can fade away. OR……there’s always the chance he’ll just use the money for people that have fallen on hard times and give it all away in that manner. He’s been known to do such things.

  • 1bunny

    according to an article about Cain’s interview with the UL posted on Hot Air. Said they didn’t have enough money left to make rebuttal ads against the Ginger White story. My question where did 9 Mill go? Isn’t that what he said he took in after the first harassment allegations? Wasn’t that about a month ago?

  • audax

    nt

  • avagreen

    Bachmann: U.S. Embassy In Iran (Which Doesn’t Exist) Would Be Closed Under My Watch

  • avagreen

    http://www.haaretz.com/news/international/republican-candidate-bachmann-if-i-were-president-there-d-be-no-embassy-in-iran-1.399010

  • Scope

    as they pile up.

  • audax

    Watch the video, sure you can find it, she was OBVIOUSLY talking about the 1.) British closing their Embassy in Tehran this week, and 2.) that we haven’t had an Embassy in Iran since Reagan (under Carter we had an Embassy in Tehran but it was “occupied” by the Irani “students”) and she was making the point that until there is regime change in Iran that had a more favorable outlook on their relationship with the US, then there would be NO US Embassy in Iran either. remeber it was the LSM that put forward the mis-information, Bachmann tried to correct them on the spot when they kept misconstuing her position and they still put out the false impression that the LSM wanted to present about Bachmann and now you are sucked in too.

    PS. I am NOT a Bachmann supporter for the GOP nomination.
    PSS. I do not listen to the LSM
    PSSS. If you listen to Mark Levin, you will get the whole story about what happened. I live in Europe and know the whole story, so what is your excuse?

  • Lesstressrx

    Thanks for encouraging people to write to Hannity and all talk show hosts esp. on Fox. They are totally ignoring Perry. I wrote Hannity about that last night. No fair and balanced there.
    Frank Luntz is a joke and he has tried every way he can to discourage people to support Rick.

  • rickperryreport

    … when you are buying ads on Rush Limbaugh, Hannity, et. al. and have a pretty hefty interactive advertising budget too. In fact, I’ll guess that it could have cost him $10 million to raise $9 million. It is extremely difficult to turn a profit running ads requesting donations, especially one-time donations. I work in advertising and ran fundraising campaigns for US congressional candidates. We were lucky to break even on the first round of advertising. The money is made in subsequent follow-ups with the “list” you create.

  • Xasteius

    Newt, although my second candidate choice, is somewhat like Romney in that he holds convictions very loosely and dabbles in the latest conviction of the month. Perry actually stands for something. He also has this air of academic arrogance while Perry has actually done some hand-on executive management and has more humility.

    This would obviously be last resort, but Perry is getting close to the point of no return with his Texas donors leaving the fold.

  • Scope

    would be as kind and as cordial to Perry as he was with Cain. I doubt Perry would be asking Newt to go first so he could simply agree with his answer.

  • 1bunny

    was in Oct and the news on the SH scandal didn’t come out until Nov. So did he buy on credit? I thought he only had a few mil before the scandal broke so how did he purchase 9 mil in ads? Did someone else buy the ads?

  • pj2012

    But… I wasn’t speaking in religious terms of the use of faith. My faith is that gods goodness in all things can bring about right things. Please don’t quote the bible at me for speaking my mind. Faith is a personal thing for most people. I know people are flawed. But we should strive to be more… if not, then what are we doing here?

  • avagreen

    After talking about Britain’s decision to pull its nationals out of its embassy after students stormed the building in protest earlier that week, this is what Bachmann said:
    “That’s exactly what I would do [if I were President]. We wouldn’t have an embassy in Iran. I wouldn’t allow that to be there.”
    Silly me. It was a busy day and I was just passing by the TV, I agreed with what she was saying and was proud of her to make such a strong stand to close the embassy in Iran if she were President.

    Of course, the next day or so the hoopla started because we’ve not had one there since 1980. Which I had forgotten in the rush of the day while listening to her.

    To backtrack her team put out the next day or so:
    ?She was agreeing with the actions taken by the British to secure their embassy personnel and was speaking in the hypothetical, that if she was President of the United States and if we had an embassy in Iran, she would have taken the same actions as the British.?

    It may have been her garbled way of trying to communicate her support, but it obvious that it’s way too easy to think she didn’t know what she was talking about. I took it when I heard it just like it was reported by the MSM. I just put it up along side her other gaffes she’s made

  • avagreen

    Some hair-splitting going on here. I knew what you meant, and have said the same thing myself.

  • pj2012

    ; )

  • http://www.changeforrickperry.org louisianapatriette

    :)

  • Scope

    Cain himself admitted to knowing Ginger White for 13 years, and admitted to having given her money to pay her bills and rent etc. He also admitted that his wife knew nothing about this “friend.” Ms. White has phone call records with something like 70 calls exchanged, some at 3 and 4 in the morning. She said she also has emails they exchanged. Even if there was no sex in the relationship, would you do that and not tell your wife about it?

    Then Cain’s attorney went on CNN and argued that Cain’s relationships with anyone was no one’s business, even though he is a presidential candidate. Cain’s lawyer also released a statement the day Cain brought out the news and said that what Cain does is no one’s business, and what he does ends at the bedroom door. That’s very damaging.

    Cain doesn’t have to stay in the race in order to hire some investigators to search for how or why these women came forward. I doubt he would agree to looking for airline tickets, restaurant receipts etc. because that would be admitting guilt and against his best interests. If those tickets/receipts do exist, Cain would be trying to hide them. I doubt Cain’s lawyer can make the women prove there cases with receipts, especially the last one with a much more current relationship with him.

    Is’s sad that Rush decided to take up Cain’s cause, just blame the media, today he’s blaming the WH for these bimbo eruptions, before he knew what the real truth was. He should have done his own vetting before he boarded the Cain train. Now if Cain backs out, he looks like a clown, which I never thought Rush would do.

  • Xasteius

    What was that someone said about diplomacy is a way to tell someone to jump up a cliff in such a way as to make the jumpee look forward to the sudden stop at the end?

  • clowngirl

    n/t

  • mikeevergreen

    I absolutely love Ron Paul, and I want him in the race as long as possible. I just don’t think he’s going to win.

    I think Erick is right about Huntsman – and the guy is consistent! He’s not a flip-flopper who changes his position based on political expediency. That’s a big part of the reason I like Ron Paul so much.

    I think Huntsman would make a great candidate and a better president than Obama, or Romney, or anyone else running for president this year. I think he could work with both Republicans and Democrats in Congress. I think Huntsman’s appeal is the reason the Obama people tried to remove him from the picture by making him ambassador to China.

    He pissed off conservatives at the beginning of his campaign, and got a reputation as a moderate. I just think he’s the most innovative-thinking candidate in the race – someone who would have a great affinity with Paul Ryan. They are alike.

    Hopefully, Huntsman will be ready for his second look.

  • rickperryreport

    .. to begin your campaign. The amount of ads you are running DOES generate cash flow, maybe even positive cash flow for a while. It becomes a virtual beast, raking in money and dishing it out at the same time.

    The answer (or proof?) of what I am saying will be highlighted in the FEC report for 4th quarter due out Jan 15 or so.

  • conservativemusician

    And when I say I don’t trust him, I mean that I don’t think his instincts are all that conservative. He talks a big game and he’s smooth like Romney in debates, but in the end, Newt will disappoint and it will be a struggle to keep him on the conservative reservation for very long.

    Here is a link that shows just how “conservative” Newt really has been over the years. Hope you will find it interesting reading and listening.

    http://www.westernjournalism.com/is-newt-gingrich-a-conservative-you-decide/

    P.S. As I said in my post up thread, I will of course vote for Gingrich if he is the nominee, but we can do better than Newt or Romney for that matter. We have time to get this right and I hope for the sake of the country that we do, so Perry has my vote in the primaries.

  • audax

    The details start at 7:20 in the video

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=vgqVo7Jq_4o#!

    Who do you believe, NBC or Michele Bachmann and Mark Levin?

  • truthsquad

    This is PRIMARY season. As we’ve seen over and over here, if you run for the GOP nomination, you are fair game. It’s good to see faux conservatives exposed — we NEED to know about that, BEFORE we make the mistake of nominating them!

  • truthsquad

    said plenty of negative things about fellow Republicans. Don’t forget that.

  • esquip17

    Except when we are contributing to the same themes put out by the MSM. Why was the picture of Mitt Romney with his friends put on this website? I agree that a degree of culling the best candidate is good, but I think they take it too far when they support the narrative of the media. Any talk of third party activity is inappropriate.

  • floydius

    This comment would make perfect sense if we assume that the Republican party takes precedence over conservative principles. For decades, conservatism has been repeatedly betrayed in the interest of advancing the Republican party.

    If Obama were to switch parties suddenly, without changing his principles, would you advocate that we forget about his record? Of course, that’s not likely to happen — you won’t have to deal with that reality.

    The reality we do have to deal with, however, is that several candidates are vying for the Republican nomination who do not actually hold to conservative values.

    It is easily demonstrated that neither Mitt nor Newt are conservatives in principle. Few even try to argue the point. Their main pull is that they are “less liberal” than Obama, and that they wear the Republican jersey.

    The truth is this: being less liberal does not make one more conservative.
    Just because someone is “not Obama,” that doesn’t make them a principled conservative. I refuse to vote for the lesser of two evils. Not-Obama is not enough for me. It shouldn’t be for you, either.

  • floydius

    This comment would make perfect sense if we assume that the Republican party takes precedence over conservative principles. For decades, conservatism has been repeatedly betrayed in the interest of advancing the Republican party.

    If Obama were to switch parties suddenly, without changing his principles, would you advocate that we forget about his record? Of course, that’s not likely to happen — you won’t have to deal with that reality.

    The reality we do have to deal with, however, is that several candidates are vying for the Republican nomination who do not actually hold to conservative values.

    It is easily demonstrated that neither Mitt nor Newt are conservatives in principle. Few even try to argue the point. Their main pull is that they are “less liberal” than Obama, and that they wear the Republican jersey.

    The truth is this: being less liberal does not make one more conservative.
    Just because someone is “not Obama,” that doesn’t make them a principled conservative. I refuse to vote for the lesser of two evils. Not-Obama is not enough for me. It shouldn’t be for you, either.