Rick Perry is getting all sorts of fire for his ad mentioning gays in the military and kids not being able to pray in school. The left and the libertarian leaning poseurs are all out in force attacking Perry and that ad with a “prove it.”
Well . . .
We all know about the report of the Obama Administration saying it will check to see what countries are doing on the gay rights front to make sure gays are not being persecuted. But at the same time the Obama Administration has decided to not reauthorize the bipartisan U.S. Commission on International Religious Freedom.
The Commission investigates religious liberty issues around the world and informs the State Department about nations persecuting people because of religion, including Christians.
In other words, we’re going to start checking up on how countries treat gays and lesbians, but Obama wants to shut down the Commission that investigates how countries treat citizens who believe in God.
The President has until December 16, 2011, to reauthorize the Commission and thus far the Commission members say the President has no plans to reauthorize it.
I guess Rick Perry gets another commercial out of this issue.
Moe Lane
Dan McLaughlin
Dan Spencer
Jeff Emanuel
Neil Stevens
Thats Rick Perry for you.
cheetah2 (Diary) Thursday, December 8th at 4:53PM EDT (link)He always turns out to be right.
I’m a Christian, a conservative, and a Republican, in that order, just like Mike Pence.
@cheetah222
So once again, Perry is
irishgirl Thursday, December 8th at 5:04PM EDT (link)putting it out there, showing the world the person he is. Which is a good thing. I like how he’s not afraid to show his beliefs. Go Perry.
Perry went to Congress and told the few members that like him
center77 (Diary) Thursday, December 8th at 5:06PM EDT (link)that he wants to cut their pay in half. All the conservatives who claim to be tea party your champion has been here all along. And to you social conservatives, Perry has been fighting our battle for awhile. He fought to allow I.D. to be taught along side evolution and to let the children decide. He went to the rally when people said it would doom him in the mind of the media elite.
Is there any more proof you need that Perry is our champion. It’s time to wake up, because I’m sorry but Newt is a Washington insider, money maker of of power hungry, sometimes socialistic, hubris filled, God complexing former speaker who is transforming into what you want him to be. In the end he will tell you what conservatism is. I promise you this, there will be one huge collective cheer by Democrats if we nominate the ultimate scandal generating former speaker. This is bet money on.
My name is Timothy Bladel. I’m from Davenport, Iowa. I am a Undergraduate, Double Majoring in Journalism & Mass communication, with my other major being political science. I am conservative in nature, sometimes a tad bit libertarian; the Tenth Amendment is vital to changing this country for the better.
Mitt Romney 2012, but not without the truth of who he is.
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“We the people” tell the government what to do, it doesn’t tell us. We the people are the driver, the government is the car. And we decide where it should go, and by what route, and how fast.” Ronald Reagan’s farewell address (January 11, 1989)
Teaparty has generally been unmasked...
tnguy Thursday, December 8th at 6:08PM EDT (link)…as an overblown phenomenon, not much different than the OWS people, just on an opposite side of the political and philosphical spectrum.
Largely, they’re no more informed and cognizant of our nation’s problems than the filthy hippies and lazy socialists that polluted various downtown and business districts this fall. Not to say that many TPers weren’t good people,and that they were all as I’m describing them,but the reality is,if they were what they were purported to be, Newt Gingrich and Mitt Romney couldn’t even sniff the republican nomination, much less make it to the final 2.
“Guard with jealous attention the public liberty. Suspect everyone who approaches that jewel. Unfortunately, nothing will preserve it but downright force. Whenever you give up that force, you are ruined.”
Actually, tnguy, you've just been unmasked.
Neil Stevens (Diary) Thursday, December 8th at 6:14PM EDT (link)Interesting how many untruths can be packed into one comment.
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Garbage, Neil
tnguy Thursday, December 8th at 7:40PM EDT (link)I’ve never been anything but upfront about my beliefs. My point stands and there’s nothing party hacks can say to dispute it.
Go sit on a parkbench with Newt, his public mandate, and Nancy Pelosi.
Enjoy Newt’s upcoming book on global warming.
http://www.latimes.com/news/politics/la-pn-gingrich-climate-book-20111208,0,7420605.story?track=rss&utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+latimes%2Fnews%2Fpolitics+%28L.A.+Times+-+Politics%29&utm_content=Google+Feedfetcher
“Guard with jealous attention the public liberty. Suspect everyone who approaches that jewel. Unfortunately, nothing will preserve it but downright force. Whenever you give up that force, you are ruined.”
Oh don't have a hissy fit, tnguy
Neil Stevens (Diary) Thursday, December 8th at 8:38PM EDT (link)But false anti-TEA party talking points are lies no matter who tells them.
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“I rejoice that America has resisted.” – William Pitt, the Elder
the tea party is the republican base
federalfarmer1 (Diary) Thursday, December 8th at 6:18PM EDT (link)And they have different priorities, but generally agree on cutting the budget eliminating regulations as the path to prosperity.
Newt has a solid record of budget cutting and ended the worst entitlement program in the country. Why wouldn’t he appeal to the tea party?
Newt lobbied for
Scope (Diary) Thursday, December 8th at 8:14PM EDT (link)the latest entitlement legislation that unfortunately came out of a Republican administration, Medicare Part D. Newt voted for the creation of the Dept. of Education in the Carter years, but apologized for that vote with Blitzer. He then recently went on an Obama “Race to the Top” tour with Al Sharpton. The Sharpton tour was very recent, even if you want to excuse his past mistakes. How many mistakes does someone have to have, and to require apology after apology, when you say this guys got some real problems.
And how genuine are the apologies
texabama Thursday, December 8th at 9:21PM EDT (link)if they aren’t rendered until he’s criticized. If you are sincere in the belief that you are wrong, then you apologize right away. He apologized to Blitzer a couple of weeks ago when he voted for the Dept of Ed almost 30 years ago. He’s suddenly sorry now that he’s running for President.
Sure Newt's sorry...
pj2012 Friday, December 9th at 4:33AM EDT (link)baloney… he’s a man full of self convenience. I’m not impressed.
Intelligence without humility… that’s Newt. The most intelligent person is one who humbly accepts the ideas of others. Without humility intelligence becomes arrogance, warped ambition and avarice.
Perry has a way
WA_Cowboy (Diary) Thursday, December 8th at 5:07PM EDT (link)of saying what a lot of people think.
Agree with his ad. People are people, regardless of their religion, race, creed and all deserve to be treated the same.
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I'm praying daily,wacowboy.
avagreen Friday, December 9th at 4:42AM EDT (link)Daily.
Rick Perry STILL! doesn’t have or need blood. He is filled with magma.
Rick Perry uses his bare hands to hunt.
Countdown Until Obama Leaves Office.
Persecution of Christians at SUNY - Buffalo
kipling (Diary) Thursday, December 8th at 5:10PM EDT (link)World Magazine has posted a story that InterVarsity Christian Fellowship has been suspended from campus for their belief that homosexuality is immoral.
Officially the group is suspended because they require their leadership to support the beliefs of the group and are therefore exclusionary.
Not sure if the Muslim groups is required to have Christians in their leadership.
This is where we are heading with gay rights.
cheetah2 (Diary) Thursday, December 8th at 6:24PM EDT (link)They won’t be satisfied until they had not only the rights but the validation, which they can’t get from Christians without trampling over our freedom of religion. They will never be happy as long as people are allowed to believe that what they are doing is morally wrong.
BTW, Perry is standing up for freedom of religion, which includes our right and freedom to bring our religious beliefs with us when we enter the public arena. There is a movement afoot to restrict us to freedom of worship, which means religious expression only within the walls of church buildings.
Obama and members of his administration have shifted from using the phrase “religious freedom” to “freedom of worship.” So Perry is correct in talking of Obama’s war on religion. It is a serious and real threat.
I’m a Christian, a conservative, and a Republican, in that order, just like Mike Pence.
@cheetah222
gay marriage is about validation not rights
federalfarmer1 (Diary) Thursday, December 8th at 6:55PM EDT (link)Otherwise we would have civil union laws in a lot more states.
There is no chance that this country will limit religious expression in our lifetime. I bet you could not find a single federal judge who would say that could be constitutional.
The game is to make it very expensive to be religious by eliminating every exception for religious groups and organizations,whether it be gender discrimination, homosexuality discrimination, exceptions for abortion or contraceptives, etc.
It is happening already.
cheetah2 (Diary) Thursday, December 8th at 7:42PM EDT (link)“In August, 2008, in a 7-0 decision, the California Supreme Court asserted that a Christian physician does not have a constitutional right to refuse to perform an elective medical procedure on religious grounds.”
Two Christian physicians were found guilty of discriminating against a lesbian woman because of her sexual orientation when they refused to artificially inseminate her. (Their policy is to refuse this elective procedure to any unmarried woman because of their religious beliefs.)
They offered to refer her to another clinic for the procedure.
Just bringing a law suit like this is punishing a person for their religious beliefs, because even if they won the case, just fighting the lawsuit is extremely burdensome and expensive.
http://www.faith-freedom.com/pledgeofhope/workplace
Many businesses are vulnerable to this kind of attack. If gay marriage is legal, then any wedding related business will be forced to cater to gay couples even if the owners have a religious objection to it.
In 2008, E-Harmony the dating service lost a lengthy and expensive court battle because of their religious objection to serving gay clients. Not only were they forced to offer services, they were punished by having to provide a 2 million dollar settlement fund for the benefit of gays who were “harmed” by their former policy.
http://articles.sfgate.com/2010-01-27/bay-area/17836024_1_eharmony-lesbian-sexual-orientation
So there is already no freedom of religious expression for business owners when it comes to restricting their clientele based on their religious beliefs.
I’m a Christian, a conservative, and a Republican, in that order, just like Mike Pence.
@cheetah222
I agree ..
nativetexan41 Thursday, December 8th at 9:02PM EDT (link)it’s already happening, everyone needs to wake up to this fact. We need Gov.Perry to stand up for our right to worship and to express our Christian views.
The evangelical Christians in Iowa should support him our future depends on it.
I like what he said about some kind of values will be guiding this country, what do we want that to be.(not his exact words but close). I want a man with Christain values guiding this country.
I am whole hearted for Perry.
A precedent for all
rhampton (Diary) Thursday, December 8th at 9:25PM EDT (link)Are you willing to extend a Muslim doctor, hypothetically, to legally refuse treatment to a Jew for religious reasons? If so, then I can respect your principled argument. However, I’m too trouble by the long history of discrimination to accept religious exemptions in practice.
If it's elective, absolutely.
Menlo (Diary) Friday, December 9th at 1:25AM EDT (link)It is a case of bad publicity, and it is up to the public to correct through their purchases and choice of business.
When you are dealing with a public service or legitimate medical treatment, discrimination should absolutely be prohibited.
However, in the cases referenced, I have to wonder. If both of them chose to put their businesses above their objections by complying with the judicial order, the sincerity of their faith would be in question, no?
“The ultimate touchstone of constitutionality is the Constitution itself and not what we have said about it.” -Felix Frankfurter
We'd Be Well Served
pcscipio Thursday, December 8th at 9:34PM EDT (link)If we could only get religion waaaay out of politics.
My parents taught me it was inappropriate to discuss politics and religion, particularly together. My parents were smart, how about yours?
Wrong, Scipio
tnguy Thursday, December 8th at 9:41PM EDT (link)A Christian is not supposed to talk about the defining principles of his/her life? They’re supposed to pretend that they’re not who they are? Christianity is not just an aspect of a Christian’s life, it is supposed to be their life.
“Guard with jealous attention the public liberty. Suspect everyone who approaches that jewel. Unfortunately, nothing will preserve it but downright force. Whenever you give up that force, you are ruined.”
The Christian physician case in California is a pretty clear case of discrimination
bonnman Thursday, December 8th at 9:47PM EDT (link)Mainly because of California’s Unruh Civil Rights Act passed in 1959 which outlaws discrimination based on sexual orientation. My point is that this is nothing new and the physicians, operating their businesses in California, should be well aware of this law and know their practice is discriminatory.
so the physicians have to violate their sincerely held beliefs.
cheetah2 (Diary) Thursday, December 8th at 10:28PM EDT (link)or get out of business…something wrong there.
I’m a Christian, a conservative, and a Republican, in that order, just like Mike Pence.
@cheetah222
Yes. That is their ultimatum
bonnman Friday, December 9th at 12:13AM EDT (link)The State has a right to regulate commerce that takes place within its borders and has decided that discriminatory business practices are not welcomed. How is this different than a restaurant refusing to serve food to a lesbian couple? or an interracial couple?
Don't think anyone dies if food isn't served.
avagreen Friday, December 9th at 4:39AM EDT (link)Apples and oranges.
Rick Perry STILL! doesn’t have or need blood. He is filled with magma.
Rick Perry uses his bare hands to hunt.
Countdown Until Obama Leaves Office.
No. Discrimination is still discrimination whether it occurs in food service or medical procedures
bonnman Friday, December 9th at 9:14AM EDT (link)I’m actually not sure what you’re getting at as the discussion is about a physician refusing to artificially inseminate a lesbian woman because of her sexual orientation.
bonnman: actually that is incorrect.
cheetah2 (Diary) Saturday, December 10th at 1:15AM EDT (link)They refused to perform the elective procedure because she was a single woman not because she was a lesbian.
She was not harmed by their refusal, because it was an elective procedure and because she could go somewhere else to get what she wanted.
Of course it would be different if she had truly been harmed by their refusal, for example if they were oncologists and they refused her cancer treatment that she couldn’t survive without.
I’m a Christian, a conservative, and a Republican, in that order, just like Mike Pence.
@cheetah222
So say the defendants, however
bonnman Saturday, December 10th at 3:09AM EDT (link)The plaintiff in the case, Benitez, claims discrimination based on sexual orientation and the Supreme Court decided in her favor. Without an impartial witness to the actual events its difficult to truly know who said what. But regardless, either for sexual orientation or marital status, this is a case of discrimination.
The procedure while an elective, still causes harm if refused. Artificial insemination requires donor sperm which has a shelf life and appropriate timing based on ovulation. A refusal costs the plaintiff time and money (Benitez had been going to their fertility clinic for some time( and paying them before they refused her this one particular procedure). But consider an interracial couple being refused at a restaurant, actually a more accurate example would be that they are seated, the waiter takes their order but then the chef refuses to cook for them. They won’t starve to death and can just get up and go to another restaurant so why shouldn’t we allow that? Well, even aside from the moral and ethical reasons there are lots others, again the time and money wasted, the public embarrassment of being escorted out of the restaurant and then the future uncertainty of this happening again in other restaurants because you’ll never know the religious practices of the chef.
Another spot on message
beee Thursday, December 8th at 5:15PM EDT (link)Perry is again showing he is the TRUE conservative in the race! His message aligns with that of the tea party..BUT he was tossed aside way too premature..Please take another look..his passion is real….so what if he had a rocky first couple of debates…Now the media is magnifying any lilttle gaffe..but because of this..WE ARE NOT GETTING HIS MESSAGE OF CONSERVATISM…
Yes, I am a Perry supporter all the way!
Perry 2012
Shame on Congress
mrmises Thursday, December 8th at 5:18PM EDT (link)According to the Washington Post, Sen. Majority Whip Richard Durbin put a hold on the authorizing legislation. They report that Sen. Durbin is holding out for the feds to buy a prison in his state. This is pork at its worst.
Politics over protection of freedoms. The Democratic Senate fails us again.
Funny thing is
aesthete (Diary) Thursday, December 8th at 5:22PM EDT (link)that gays in the military has jack-all to do with libertarianism, and kids being allowed to pray in schools is pretty much as ironclad a libertarian issue as it gets, as it broaches on freedom of speech, expression and worship issues. Both issues are good for identifying “left libertarians” who are either ignorant on what both issues entail, or not nearly as libertarian as they’d like for you to think.
To any left-libertarians reading this and objecting: yes, that means that you have to agree with those icky Bible-bleevers on something. Get over it.
“It is a popular delusion that the government wastes vast amounts of money through inefficiency and sloth. Enormous effort and elaborate planning are required to waste this much money.”
-P.J. O’Rourke
Kids being allowed to pray in schools
hal2715 Thursday, December 8th at 7:07PM EDT (link)Kids being allowed to pray in schools is as ironclad a constitutional issue as it gets. Thomas Jefferson and the Supreme Court established the principle of separation of church and state for a reason.
Separation of Church and State
kipling (Diary) Thursday, December 8th at 8:28PM EDT (link)Thomas Jefferson established nothing. The phrase was contained in a letter. It has no inherent legal standing but expresses an opinion.
The Supreme Court used to interpret the phrase as placing a restriction on government. In the 1940s the Supreme Court switch and began to place the restrictions upon religion.
If we have a wall of separation then how come the government is the only one that can reach over that wall.
99% of the country will tell you that phrase is in the constitution
Common_Cents (Diary) Thursday, December 8th at 8:35PM EDT (link)It’s a good way to win money, hehe. That is a good example of how our education system has failed. (actually it has succeeded for liberals).
“Fathom the hypocrisy of a Government
that requires every citizen to prove
they are insured…. but not everyone
must prove they are a citizen.” -Ben Stein
“In individuals, insanity is rare; but in groups, parties, nations and epochs, it is the rule.”[especially in DC] – Friedrich Nietzsche
Good way to make money!
kipling (Diary) Thursday, December 8th at 8:57PM EDT (link)I will have to try that the next time I get a chance.
In the classes I teach, I actually have them read the Declaration of Independence and the U.S. Constitution. Some of them have made it through college without having read the actual documents.
They are often surprised by what is in there and what is not in there.
Liberals tend to be surprised
aesthete (Diary) Thursday, December 8th at 9:53PM EDT (link)by the strength of protections for gun and property rights, and the limited nature of the federal government.
Conservatives tend to be shocked by the concern for the rights of the accused.
And everyone forgets the 3rd Amendment
At least, that has been my finding.
“It is a popular delusion that the government wastes vast amounts of money through inefficiency and sloth. Enormous effort and elaborate planning are required to waste this much money.”
-P.J. O’Rourke
What church was forcing the children
aesthete (Diary) Thursday, December 8th at 8:53PM EDT (link)of Santa Fe Independent to initiate non-sectarian prayers for their football teams (Santa Fe Independent v Doe)? What grand inquisition required that a rabbi pray at a school prior to a graduation ceremony (Lee v Weismann)? What dark cabal of church ministers compelled school officials to, of their own accord, read the Bible out loud when they thought it appropriate (Abington School v Schnepp)?
I think that separation of church and state is a wonderful idea. I don’t see how a child wanting to pray, or even a member of faculty wanting to do the same, has any bearing on the issue. I *do* see how preventing same would be a gross violation of that person’s Constitutional rights to speech, expression, and worship — the issue in these cases was not competence of the teacher (or student), or relevance to general concepts of education. Rather, it was an attempt at censorship of private parties in order to further some ostensible state interest — something that libertarians have always stood against.
“It is a popular delusion that the government wastes vast amounts of money through inefficiency and sloth. Enormous effort and elaborate planning are required to waste this much money.”
-P.J. O’Rourke
It's about fairness
texasref (Diary) Thursday, December 8th at 5:41PM EDT (link)If Obama rightly wants to work toward human rights for LGBT folks, he should also rightly want to continue to work toward human rights for folks to follow the religion of their conviction.
No one deserves to be imprisoned or worse because they worship the “wrong” deity or because they happen to be gay.
“The medical director who performed the autopsy on Trayvon Martin found only two injuries on his body: the gunshot wound and broken skin on his knuckles. Welcome to the Duke lacrosse case all over again.”–Rush Limbaugh, 5-16-12
Next Step: Docket Sounding on 8-8-12
Final Step: Verdict of Not Guilty
gays deserve human rights regardless of how christians are treated.
federalfarmer1 (Diary) Thursday, December 8th at 5:58PM EDT (link)And vice versa. Does anybody here think gays should only get human rights if Christians do? That is not a Christian position. We don’t love sinners only if they love us first.
Perry has been treading into bachmann like territory with the red meat demagoging. Open school prayer is expressly permitted by the supreme court. See you at the pole is pretty open and public, no? And what the heck does gays in the military have to do with our religious heritagei? That ad was just embarrassing pandering. Obama does have a war against religion going, but he or his handlers don’t have enough nuance to make it. Talk about Obama passing intrusive regulations with no religious exceptions, or taking the position before the supreme court that churches should be entirely subject to discrimination laws.
kowalaki
federalfarmer1 (Diary) Thursday, December 8th at 6:13PM EDT (link)Meant to say Perry or his handlers don’t have enough nuance to explain obamas war on religion and resorted to tired cliched arguments that aren’t on point. Gays in the military is not a religious issue. It’s a military preparedness issue. The military is not a church, and the bible does not say, thou must exclude gays from your military.
It makes it hard for churches to reach out to gays and preach the gospel when politicians use the church and faith as red meat on controversial issues that have nothing to do with the church .
I saw the ad in a different light
texabama Thursday, December 8th at 7:39PM EDT (link)My take on the gays in the military and the war against religion was more along the lines that it is incongruent to have gays serve openly in the military, but then balk at displaying a cross at the military chapel.
The story of a complete un-truth, Perry is defending Faith, dont get me started
center77 (Diary) Thursday, December 8th at 7:37PM EDT (link)and the whole think is cataloged here
http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2011/12/08/rick-perry-president-obama-and-war-on-christianity/
Perry’s correct in saying Obama is attacking faith, and yes no one is saying gays get rights only if Christians get rights – that is not the message, it’s that how can Obama say one gets the help and protecting but the other has to stay out of the public sphere but in case you do not want to read it.
The evidence of his White House attacking the Christian faith, however, is plentiful.
It was President Obama who declared in an e-mail to CBN News that “whatever we once were, we’re no longer just a Christian nation.”
This is the same administration that invited Lady Gaga into the White House for an anti-bullying conference but banned Franklin Graham from the Pentagon’s National Day of Prayer observances.
It was during the Obama administration that Christian school children were ordered to stop praying outside the Supreme Court building because they were violating the law. Instead, those American boys and girls were forced to pray for the elected officials while standing in a gutter.
It was President Obama who dropped the words “by their Creator” when reciting a key excerpt from the Declaration of Independence to the Congressional Hispanic Caucus – not once, but twice.
It was the Obama administration that opposed the commemoration of a prayer by Franklin Roosevelt at the site of the World War II Memorial on the Washington Mall, arguing that it would “dilute” the memorial’s central message.
And it was the Obama White House that asked Georgetown University to cover up all religious signs and symbols prior to a presidential address.
The Obama administration has used our military as a social engineering petri dish – pulling gay and lesbian soldiers out of the closet while pushing Christians back inside.
In recent days, we’ve learned that the Navy adopted and later rescinded a policy that would have banned parents from giving their wounded soldier-children Bibles at Walter Reed National Military Medical Center.
A Christian cross was removed from outside an Army chapel because it violated regulations. The Air Force Academy was forced to apologize for promoting Operation Christmas Child because it had ties to a Christian organization.
Critics, including many lawmakers, believe the Obama administration is trying scrub Christianity from the military.
I’m glad that Gov. Perry raised the issue of religion. It’s a topic worthy of exploring merely for the fact that a leader’s conduct and decision-making will always be influenced by what he or she believes at the core. A nation deserves to know what they can expect.
“Bringing America back starts with faith,” Gov. Perry declared during a speech Wednesday to the Republican Jewish Coalition. “Faith in the Almighty, who created. Faith in our friends and allies, in a time of trouble, faith in each other to not give up hope.”
The governor is absolutely correct.
This is one of the very first reasons I look towards Perry because I am sick of the attack on my faith. Look Christians are not the ones asking for only our ways to be taught in schools, we just feel we should have a voice to give our version along with evolution. We think there is no reason we cannot pray in school or at the court house. The MTV way is forced on us and the children every day, but they want to take faith out of everything because it offends a few people, well I am offended by most of rap music, are you banning that from schools and football games.
My name is Timothy Bladel. I’m from Davenport, Iowa. I am a Undergraduate, Double Majoring in Journalism & Mass communication, with my other major being political science. I am conservative in nature, sometimes a tad bit libertarian; the Tenth Amendment is vital to changing this country for the better.
Mitt Romney 2012, but not without the truth of who he is.
www.timothy-bladel.com
“We the people” tell the government what to do, it doesn’t tell us. We the people are the driver, the government is the car. And we decide where it should go, and by what route, and how fast.” Ronald Reagan’s farewell address (January 11, 1989)
I, too, am offended by much of popular culture
texabama Thursday, December 8th at 7:44PM EDT (link)I think we are at the tipping point. The majority is getting mighty tired of having to kowtow to any and every minority viewpoint at the expense of theirs.
FWIW, the Libertarian Messiah
Paula (Diary) Thursday, December 8th at 5:50PM EDT (link)co-sponsored a school prayer Constitutional amendment and has been on both sides of DADT.
Just off the top of my head, since Obama has been in office:
1. The Justice Dept. put Christians/abortion opponents on the terrorist watch list.
2. Proposed a tax on Christmas trees.
3. Spouted off the whole clinging to their guns and religion crap.
4. Is trying force Catholic medical providers to perform abortions.
5. Is forcing us all to pay for abortions through Obamacare
6. Is refusing to enforce DOMA
I’m sure there are others.
Paula
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Paula - Libertarian and Liberal do not mean the same things.
acat (Diary) Thursday, December 8th at 6:22PM EDT (link)I have to conclude you meant to type Liberal.
Mew
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Cat- It should be obvious
Scope (Diary) Thursday, December 8th at 7:13PM EDT (link)that Paula clearly meant Libertarian. You, as a libertarian, and a few others don’t consider Paul a libertarian, by your definition of libertarianism. We’ve talked about this before. Paul considers himsself a libertarian, and many many many many view Paul as a libertarian. I am unaware of anyone from the libertarian party to try to diffuse Paul’s claim as a libertarian. If the party won’t difuse Paul, and come out with a statement that he has hijacked, or changed the definition of the libertarian party, he is considered a libertarian. You may have other ideas of what a libertarian is, but, your definitions are no different than what the conservatives want to define as a true conservative. All of the parties definitions have been so diluted to the point that there are no longer any accurate definitions. It has become a free-for-all with trying to describe what each of the ideologies really represent. That absolutely has been a part of strategic planning to make no party definition to stick or hold. Why ever would the progressive liberals ever allow a clear party line or divide.
Yeah, Paul's a libertarian
aesthete (Diary) Thursday, December 8th at 8:36PM EDT (link)a boorish and naive one, but a libertarian nonetheless. Boorish and silly people find a presence in all political parties and camps. Perhaps this is fitting: after all, most of what goes on in politics is boorish and silly, heh.
“It is a popular delusion that the government wastes vast amounts of money through inefficiency and sloth. Enormous effort and elaborate planning are required to waste this much money.”
-P.J. O’Rourke
Okay, Scope. Tell me which things on Paula's list match Ron Paul.
acat (Diary) Friday, December 9th at 1:21AM EDT (link)Any of ‘em?
I’ll wait.
Oh, and one more thing. The Libertarian (note the capital L) party does not claim Ron Paul as he left them after his failed presidential run. I cannot understand why the GOP keeps him, but .. c’est la vie.
Mew
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Scope? Still waiting.
acat (Diary) Friday, December 9th at 2:00PM EDT (link)Last time I checked, though, Ron Paul opposed both Obamacare and abortion. He’s a doctor, y’know. Even a crazed old politician finds a truffle from time to time.
Mew
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wow...
bri283 Thursday, December 8th at 7:47PM EDT (link)… that is a good dose of misinformation. And “Libertarian”???
Thanks for helping make the right look ignorant. It helps us win in 2012. Oh wait…..
Bri
What's the 1st adjective that comes to mind with Paul?
Paula (Diary) Thursday, December 8th at 8:41PM EDT (link)“Libertarian” -like it or not, that’s his image and he’s not exactly going around disavowing the label. If he did, his base would dry up and he’d just be some old guy telling everyone to stay off his lawn.
Plus, that whole 1988 Libertarian Party presidential run.
Paula
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ans: nutty. nt
sunshinek67 (Diary) Thursday, December 8th at 8:46PM EDT (link)no–text
Ron Paul? Bat-{guano} crazy.
acat (Diary) Friday, December 9th at 12:06PM EDT (link)Tell me, Paula – is Lyndon LaRouche a Democcrat? Is David Duke a Republican?
Do you think that, just maybe, you should not trust what someone who has proven himself to be a fabulist tells you he is?
Think about it.
Mew
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Caveat Suffragator
Who's "us," paleface?
Leon H. Wolf (Diary) Thursday, December 8th at 8:46PM EDT (link)Blam.
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We can’t stop here. This is bat country.
bri283...misinformation?
Paula (Diary) Thursday, December 8th at 11:34PM EDT (link)Care to expound on your drive-by comment?
Paula
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Ugh
hal2715 Thursday, December 8th at 6:46PM EDT (link)Mentioning gays in the military was unneeded and uncalled for. Perry’s better than that. Can’t we get beyond the “war on religion” thing? This was an ill-advised attempt to pander to social conservatives, but as a supporter of LGBT rights, really left me with a bd taste in my mouth.
you are missing the point
center77 (Diary) Thursday, December 8th at 7:08PM EDT (link)the point is not so much to make gays out to be bad but to highlight that Obama has attacked the Christian faith saying it is not fair to have people see other Christians worship, but then it is ok to make sure everyone knows someone is gay in the military. The whole idea is to highlight the fact that Christmas is being attacked by liberal secularist.
My name is Timothy Bladel. I’m from Davenport, Iowa. I am a Undergraduate, Double Majoring in Journalism & Mass communication, with my other major being political science. I am conservative in nature, sometimes a tad bit libertarian; the Tenth Amendment is vital to changing this country for the better.
Mitt Romney 2012, but not without the truth of who he is.
www.timothy-bladel.com
“We the people” tell the government what to do, it doesn’t tell us. We the people are the driver, the government is the car. And we decide where it should go, and by what route, and how fast.” Ronald Reagan’s farewell address (January 11, 1989)
No
hal2715 Thursday, December 8th at 7:18PM EDT (link)I am a proud conservative. I am not a christian. I am tired of hearing about a war on religion. The ad was a cheap scare tactic. Perry’s better than that.
5, hal2715
texasref (Diary) Thursday, December 8th at 7:47PM EDT (link)to both of your comments.
It’s looking more and more like Gingrich is going to be our president, like him or not.
“The medical director who performed the autopsy on Trayvon Martin found only two injuries on his body: the gunshot wound and broken skin on his knuckles. Welcome to the Duke lacrosse case all over again.”–Rush Limbaugh, 5-16-12
Next Step: Docket Sounding on 8-8-12
Final Step: Verdict of Not Guilty
Apparently he's not
znjs (Diary) Thursday, December 8th at 8:29PM EDT (link)This move reeks of desperation. Clearly Perry has realized that if he doesn’t do well in Iowa he’s done. Problem is this going after gays in the military is a good way to make sure that even if he somehow wins the nomination he’s got no shot in the general election.
znjs...did he actually "go after" gays in the military?
Paula (Diary) Thursday, December 8th at 11:37PM EDT (link)Can you share the quote in the ad where he is “going after” them?
Paula
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Sure
znjs (Diary) Thursday, December 8th at 11:48PM EDT (link)“something’s wrong when gays can serve openly in the military”.
Not that hard. And no, claiming that that quote is out of context isn’t right. Imagine any other group there
“something’s wrong when blacks can serve openly in the military”.
Would saying that not be considered going after African Americans? He’s saying it’s wrong for gays to be allowed to serve unless he also gets what he wants, prayer in school for instance. But that’s not true. Gays shouldn’t have to wait behind for Rick Perry to get his way before they’re allowed to serve openly. You can argue that both should be allowed (and I would), but you can’t argue that Perry must get what he wants before gays should be allowed to openly serve, not without saying gay right have to come after Christian rights. Both should be equal, not giving preference to one or the other as Perry seems to believe should be the case. By claiming that Perry is going after gays in the military – their rights mean less then his.
Exactly right...
ffc99 Friday, December 9th at 12:10AM EDT (link)znjs. Perry should be ashamed of this ad. I just saw it for the first time a few minutes ago and it caused my jaw to hit the floor. This post (and the subsequent comments) did not prepare me for how offensive it actually was.
znjs, just like a lib, you take a part of a sentance,
gekster (Diary) Friday, December 9th at 12:20AM EDT (link)and take it out of context, to make an asinighn point.
The full text of his add.
I’m not ashamed to admit I’m a Christian, but you don’t need to be in the pew every Sunday to know that there’s something wrong in this country when gays can serve openly on the military, but our kids can’t openly celebrate Christmass or pray in school.As President, I’ll end Obamas’ war on religeon, and I’ll fight against liberal atacks on our religeous heritage.
Faith made America strong,
If you add the rest, which you conveniently left out so you can distort the true meaning of his words,
“there’s something wrong in this country when gays can serve openly on the military, but our kids can’t openly celebrate Christmass or pray in school.”.
When put into context, he is saying if gays can openly serve, then why can’t kids in school celebrate religeous holidays or pray in school.
He is not saying, or implying, nothing against gays.
You are seeing things not there, just like most liberal jerks.
You are the definition of a donkeys rear..
And a liberal one at that.
They say Republicans are for the rich, Democrats are for the poor.
If they need more voters,
then they have to make more of who they are for.
We are there in the various Tea Party groups, leaderless, but not rudderless.
We steer always toward the Constitutional principles this nation was founded upon.
Erick Brockway
I’ve gone from
“Hope and Change” to
“Hopeless and Changeless”
Right on, gekster! You said it best - that is exactly
pttx333 (Diary) Friday, December 9th at 12:24AM EDT (link)what Perry was saying. Don’t know why folks pick out a few words and twist them around!
Mom
Yeah right
znjs (Diary) Friday, December 9th at 12:36AM EDT (link)I explained the context – he’s putting one groups rights before another.
But let’s try this, let’s switch it around. Let’s put the show on the other foot. If during the debate about DADT Obama said
“There’s something wrong when people can pray publicly but gays can’t openly serve in the military”
would that also be ok? Seriously,can you honestly listen to that statement, imagine Obama saying it, and say you would be ok with it? Would that also be saying that if people can pray publicly then why can’t gays talk honestly about their sexual orientation while serve in the military? Or would that be an attack on religion then?
Pardon me, znjs, but why is it so important for gays
pttx333 (Diary) Friday, December 9th at 12:43AM EDT (link)to “talk honestly about their sexual orientation” while in the military or anywhere else? I’ve never seen or heard heteros go around talking about their persuasion. What is the big deal, and why make a big deal out of it at all? I don’t get it and never will. Just like I believe with the gender or racial stuff – true non-discrimination is where it isn’t even mentioned at all. I would never vote for or against a black or white or otherwise simply based on skin; never vote for a man or woman simply because of gender; and the same goes for anything else that is currently PC – which I don’t practice. Sheez …
It an issue of the freedom of speech
znjs (Diary) Friday, December 9th at 12:55AM EDT (link)Just like it would be wrong to tell Christians in the military they can’t talk about their faith because it might make some uncomfortable, and it is wrong that people in the military can’t talk to people in the country they’re fighting in about God, it’s not right to tell people they can’t talk about themselves to their fellow solder. Freedom of speech is a very big issue to me, and I don’t apologize for feeling that way.
Just saw this...so this a freedom of speech issue for you?
lineholder (Diary) Friday, December 9th at 12:58AM EDT (link)Understood. Do you have any members of your family or close friends in the military?
Some friends
znjs (Diary) Friday, December 9th at 1:09AM EDT (link)No family right now.
But yes, this is a big freedom of speech issue. Imagine Obama coming down and saying people in the military can’t talk about their faith with their team member. No prayers, no mention – all has to be hidden. No Bibles along, and if you bring a Bible you have to hide it so that no one can see that you have it. It might make some people uncomfortable. I have a very big problem with this scenario. So I have a very big problem with the idea that gays have to hide their loved ones back home because otherwise it might make someone uncomfortable. That’s the person who is uncomfortable’s problem. We don’t demand that people who serve our country be perfectly bland to avoid making someone uncomfortable.
Twisting words znjs.
gekster (Diary) Friday, December 9th at 12:45AM EDT (link)He said it exactly the way he ment it.
But you have to twist it around so you can slam Perry.
And it is so true, we must allow and promote a lifestyle that is repugnant to most, but the Smallest mention of God is forbidden.
You can take your liberal thinking to the DK where you would be appreciated
for the brainles maroon you are.
They say Republicans are for the rich, Democrats are for the poor.
If they need more voters,
then they have to make more of who they are for.
We are there in the various Tea Party groups, leaderless, but not rudderless.
We steer always toward the Constitutional principles this nation was founded upon.
Erick Brockway
I’ve gone from
“Hope and Change” to
“Hopeless and Changeless”
Amen and right on, gekster! n/t
pttx333 (Diary) Friday, December 9th at 12:47AM EDT (link)x
Still waiting for an answer to my question
znjs (Diary) Friday, December 9th at 12:56AM EDT (link)“There’s something wrong when people can pray publicly but ”
That statement wouldn’t bother you coming out of Obama’s mouth?
To answer you znjs,
gekster (Diary) Friday, December 9th at 1:25AM EDT (link)if Obama said the exact same thing as Perry, I would be perfectly ok with it.
But that is not the jist of your comment.
You are taking part of a sentence, out of context, to portray Perry as being against homosexuals.
And you can ask questions and twist words all you want,
it was your intent on falsley smearing Perry.
For that you are a maroon.
They say Republicans are for the rich, Democrats are for the poor.
If they need more voters,
then they have to make more of who they are for.
We are there in the various Tea Party groups, leaderless, but not rudderless.
We steer always toward the Constitutional principles this nation was founded upon.
Erick Brockway
I’ve gone from
“Hope and Change” to
“Hopeless and Changeless”
Getting down to brass tacks here, znjs...are you gay?
lineholder (Diary) Friday, December 9th at 12:46AM EDT (link)If you are, then I’d say that perhaps you’re a bit on the defensive about Perry’s ad, maybe more than need be. At the same time, as a Christian, you better believe that I have my moments when I can be defensive about things as well, such as having the freedom to pray to a God that I believe in without having everyone and their brother tell me that I have to consider someone else’s rights first.
So there’s two sides of this, obviously, and if you’re gay, we’re coming at it from totally different perspectives that we’ll have to find a way to respect whether we want to or not.
No I'm not
znjs (Diary) Friday, December 9th at 12:51AM EDT (link)I don’t have to be a member of a group to be able to empathize with them.
So your comments stem from...what?
lineholder (Diary) Friday, December 9th at 12:55AM EDT (link)Help us understand where you’re coming from in the comments you’ve made. Then we might be able to actually communicate.
As I posted under pttx333 post
znjs (Diary) Friday, December 9th at 12:57AM EDT (link)It’s a freedom of speech issue. The second one groups rights are discriminated against, the sooner you know they’ll come after your group.
omg, were do these people come from
center77 (Diary) Friday, December 9th at 12:40AM EDT (link)you know better than to take one line from a whole paragraph and say that that person is attacking gays, I really care little about what you are sick off, because I’m sick of being told that I can’t pray at schools, or outside a court house. You secular folks want god out of everything but say its not ok to ask someone to keep their sexuality to themselves. What is Christmas without the Christ. If you guys don’t want Christians having rights, then so be it, but don’t get all hurt over it when we fight back. Because it only shame you when you clearly take a ad out of context.
My name is Timothy Bladel. I’m from Davenport, Iowa. I am a Undergraduate, Double Majoring in Journalism & Mass communication, with my other major being political science. I am conservative in nature, sometimes a tad bit libertarian; the Tenth Amendment is vital to changing this country for the better.
Mitt Romney 2012, but not without the truth of who he is.
www.timothy-bladel.com
“We the people” tell the government what to do, it doesn’t tell us. We the people are the driver, the government is the car. And we decide where it should go, and by what route, and how fast.” Ronald Reagan’s farewell address (January 11, 1989)
We cross-posted, center77 - agree with you 100%! nt
pttx333 (Diary) Friday, December 9th at 12:45AM EDT (link)c
Please
znjs (Diary) Friday, December 9th at 12:49AM EDT (link)I’m a Christian too, so you can get off your high horse. You don’t need the full context to understand he didn’t just list a random right off the top of his head – he purposely choose to talk about gays serving in the military. There’s a reason behind what he choose to use. He didn’t say
“when women have the right to vote” or
“when blacks are allowed to own property” or
“when people of different races are allowed to marry”
or anything of the like. He didn’t pick a random right to compare prayer in schools to. He picked openly serving the country while have the audacity to be gay. That was on purpose. Pretending that it wasn’t is just silly. I’ll go back to my earlier reply – if Obama had said
“There’s something wrong when people can pray publicly but gays can’t openly serve in the military”
then would you still ignore what is obviously being conveyed? Or once your group is the one in the first part of the sentence does it become a problem?
No one has said you weren't a Christian, znjs. No one
pttx333 (Diary) Friday, December 9th at 12:54AM EDT (link)is telling you to not be gay, if indeed you are. That is your business. But I am saying that I don’t go around beating others over the head telling them to be Christians or not, to pray or not, to be gay or straight, or any other such thing. Neither has Perry said that. No one on RS has said such, and I believe that most here would back me up on this matter. Let sleeping dogs lie where they may – just don’t keep banging drums and beating up others. Okay?
My sister is gay
center77 (Diary) Friday, December 9th at 1:06AM EDT (link)and I love her a lot, she also understands the point Perry is making. Perry once said he was no expert on nature vrs nuture debate, but that he believed that gays have a right to be who they are, but they have to respect that we are who we are. Thats the Perry Ive watched for 5 years. Perry is the one who said what new york does is their right, and that what Texas does is their. ZNJS has no clue what Perry believes, or he/she would not be taking one sentence and saying someone is telling gays they cannot serve
My name is Timothy Bladel. I’m from Davenport, Iowa. I am a Undergraduate, Double Majoring in Journalism & Mass communication, with my other major being political science. I am conservative in nature, sometimes a tad bit libertarian; the Tenth Amendment is vital to changing this country for the better.
Mitt Romney 2012, but not without the truth of who he is.
www.timothy-bladel.com
“We the people” tell the government what to do, it doesn’t tell us. We the people are the driver, the government is the car. And we decide where it should go, and by what route, and how fast.” Ronald Reagan’s farewell address (January 11, 1989)
You are right, center77. I know a few gays, but none
pttx333 (Diary) Friday, December 9th at 1:17AM EDT (link)of them discuss their orientation – we just speak about all sorts of things. The vast majority of folks do not go around discussing their sex lives, period, and, actually, no one really gives a big rip either way.
I have to concur regarding Perry … I’ve voted for him and watched him lo these many, many years and know that he would never slam someone for being gay or anything else. That just isn’t in him, just as it isn’t in me or anyone else that I know. I have no need to know or even care what other folks do with their lives – it is their life to live, just as my life is mine.
Yep, I think znjs just doesn’t like Perry. That’s fine … he has other candidates to choose from.
I agree, and I do not even begrudge someone for who they do not like
center77 (Diary) Friday, December 9th at 1:28AM EDT (link)but I think it is important to point out something when someone is being false. I am one of those people who would leave the issue up to each state to decide. To be honest, if the whole cuntry allowed gay marriage I would not worry about it, its their right to make that choice. I think that Perry is a states right guy also, he once said he would allow new york to do what they want , but the other rick slammed him and tried to make him look weak on faith issues. Perry has a strong record, and a strong plan. He has the character to make things get done, and we should be supporting him over Newt, they are two differnt people, but I think the left would not hav emuch to hit Perry on except he cannot debate, but his record and story, and plan will trump all that,
My name is Timothy Bladel. I’m from Davenport, Iowa. I am a Undergraduate, Double Majoring in Journalism & Mass communication, with my other major being political science. I am conservative in nature, sometimes a tad bit libertarian; the Tenth Amendment is vital to changing this country for the better.
Mitt Romney 2012, but not without the truth of who he is.
www.timothy-bladel.com
“We the people” tell the government what to do, it doesn’t tell us. We the people are the driver, the government is the car. And we decide where it should go, and by what route, and how fast.” Ronald Reagan’s farewell address (January 11, 1989)
Correctamundo, center! Nor do I begrudge anyone
pttx333 (Diary) Friday, December 9th at 1:31AM EDT (link)voting their preference – I’d certainly be upset (very) if someone told me that I had to vote a certain way.
He then backed down on that
znjs (Diary) Friday, December 9th at 1:33AM EDT (link)And started vocalizing his support for a constitutional amendment that would take that right away from NY and other states.
Look, it’s late and I’m going to bed. But the final thing I’ll say is that if Perry didn’t mean it the way I took it – and the way just about every single non-conservative (which should tell you something) took it based on the reaction the ad has gotten – then he should be clear and come out and say he wasn’t trying to say that gays shouldn’t serve openly in the military in this ad. Even his top polling guy said this would be a huge mistake, so he clearly should’ve been aware that people would take it as an attack on gays in the military. If he didn’t think it would be taken that way, well then maybe his debate performances weren’t just brain freezes and were a fair representation of him. But I don’t believe that; I believe he’s smarter then that. I believe he knew it would be taken the way it has been and he was ok with that. That means he was ok with people thinking that’s what he was saying. How is that different then endorsing the exact message that I got out of that commercial?
You knew exactly what you said when you were saying it.
gekster (Diary) Friday, December 9th at 1:44AM EDT (link)You took one part of a sentance and tried to portray Perry as anti gay.
“something’s wrong when gays can serve openly in the military”.
When anyone with a brain, or not a maroon, could clearly see what he meant when he said,
“I’m not ashamed to admit I’m a Christian, but you don’t need to be in the pew every Sunday to know that there’s something wrong in this country when gays can serve openly on the military, but our kids can’t openly celebrate Christmass or pray in school.”
You were very clearly trying to smear Perry.
I have nothing against gays.
I have alot against posters who twist words to wrongly smear candidates.
They say Republicans are for the rich, Democrats are for the poor.
If they need more voters,
then they have to make more of who they are for.
We are there in the various Tea Party groups, leaderless, but not rudderless.
We steer always toward the Constitutional principles this nation was founded upon.
Erick Brockway
I’ve gone from
“Hope and Change” to
“Hopeless and Changeless”
gek, so very true and perfectly stated! nt
pttx333 (Diary) Friday, December 9th at 1:51AM EDT (link)e
Thanks Mom.
gekster (Diary) Friday, December 9th at 2:03AM EDT (link)I am sooooo happy you are feeling up to your old self again.
They say Republicans are for the rich, Democrats are for the poor.
If they need more voters,
then they have to make more of who they are for.
We are there in the various Tea Party groups, leaderless, but not rudderless.
We steer always toward the Constitutional principles this nation was founded upon.
Erick Brockway
I’ve gone from
“Hope and Change” to
“Hopeless and Changeless”
Getting there, gek! The past 3 weeks have NOT
pttx333 (Diary) Friday, December 9th at 2:15AM EDT (link)been my finest!
Then I ended up with friend Carol’s bronchitis, so it hasn’t been fun.
What WAS fun was that silly dog Rover! He got so attached to the 3 of us (Carol, her daughter Christie, and me) that he would cry and whine when one of us even left the room. Poor Christie – wonder what she has been going through since Carol and I left.
We were delayed coming home for a couple of days due to Carol being sick, then delayed two more with the freak snowstorm from St. Louis to West Memphis – the only way to get back to Houston from Chicago without adding an extra 200-300 miles to the trip or driving through the winding, slippery roads in the Ozarks – not a good option this time of year!
So, I’m back and beginning to think I’m going to live after all.
Hope you and yours are great and planning a big Christmas!
Well piffle - I meant to sign off this way: "Mom" nt
pttx333 (Diary) Friday, December 9th at 2:17AM EDT (link)t
Reation, what liberal reaction
center77 (Diary) Friday, December 9th at 2:02AM EDT (link)because that is the only thing I seen that did not like it, but who cares.
My name is Timothy Bladel. I’m from Davenport, Iowa. I am a Undergraduate, Double Majoring in Journalism & Mass communication, with my other major being political science. I am conservative in nature, sometimes a tad bit libertarian; the Tenth Amendment is vital to changing this country for the better.
Mitt Romney 2012, but not without the truth of who he is.
www.timothy-bladel.com
“We the people” tell the government what to do, it doesn’t tell us. We the people are the driver, the government is the car. And we decide where it should go, and by what route, and how fast.” Ronald Reagan’s farewell address (January 11, 1989)
you
trevorb (Diary) Friday, December 9th at 12:56AM EDT (link)can see whatever you want to in it. If you like Perry, you’ll think he’s talking about religion. If they don’t, they think he’s attacking homosexuals. I honestly think this is also a jab at Gingrich and his personal life.
Perry did jab Newtss past
center77 (Diary) Friday, December 9th at 1:11AM EDT (link)which is important in the sense character says a lot about who a person is. If they do not act like they say they are going to in their personal life, why should anybody think they will while governing. Newt would be one gift to the Democrats. The thing that cracks me up, I do not even think Newt thinks he has the best chance, the man is just hubris enough to do it anyways. If he is as smart as everyone says he is, then he would know that the independents are going to have a trust facter with him, and they like Obama a lot. They will leave Obama if the other person has a plan to go after the insider crap in Washington, has a record of getting good things done, and has shown character to be who they says they are. Newt falls short here.
My name is Timothy Bladel. I’m from Davenport, Iowa. I am a Undergraduate, Double Majoring in Journalism & Mass communication, with my other major being political science. I am conservative in nature, sometimes a tad bit libertarian; the Tenth Amendment is vital to changing this country for the better.
Mitt Romney 2012, but not without the truth of who he is.
www.timothy-bladel.com
“We the people” tell the government what to do, it doesn’t tell us. We the people are the driver, the government is the car. And we decide where it should go, and by what route, and how fast.” Ronald Reagan’s farewell address (January 11, 1989)
Newt is a whole other category, center. His is a trust
pttx333 (Diary) Friday, December 9th at 1:22AM EDT (link)factor for me, leading straight to his lack of character regarding his personal life. When a person is in the public spotlight, sorry, but their lives are out there for all to see. And Newt has fallen waaaay short on many, many issues – not just personal. There are many things he has been involved with down through the years, politically speaking, that I just can’t swallow.
yes there is a reason
center77 (Diary) Friday, December 9th at 1:01AM EDT (link)because recently the Obama administration had allowed gays to openly serve in the military, but to profess faith seems to be a sin to the left, and Obama. You hate Perry, I get it, but Im betting when Newt talks about this same issue, you have no problem, I do not know for sure.
My name is Timothy Bladel. I’m from Davenport, Iowa. I am a Undergraduate, Double Majoring in Journalism & Mass communication, with my other major being political science. I am conservative in nature, sometimes a tad bit libertarian; the Tenth Amendment is vital to changing this country for the better.
Mitt Romney 2012, but not without the truth of who he is.
www.timothy-bladel.com
“We the people” tell the government what to do, it doesn’t tell us. We the people are the driver, the government is the car. And we decide where it should go, and by what route, and how fast.” Ronald Reagan’s farewell address (January 11, 1989)
Come on
znjs (Diary) Friday, December 9th at 1:13AM EDT (link)Obama has professed his faith numerous times. He’s not trying to stop people from doing so, the whole prayer in school thing was decided a long time before he even had a plan to run for the presidency.
I am curious how you got that I was a Newt fan? And I promise you, I will have a problem with it no matter who says it.
professing faith is not the same as walking faith
center77 (Diary) Friday, December 9th at 1:18AM EDT (link)and it is a matter of not being two sided on the issue. Obama has taken faith out of certain things , here is a list I found on Fox News of all places
President Obama declared early in his campaign for the White House that he is a Christian. We were led to believe that he was a supporter of the Purpose Driven teachings of California pastor Rick Warren. But it didn’t take long to discover that the only Sunday morning activity President Obama did on purpose was drive golf balls.
The evidence of his White House attacking the Christian faith, however, is plentiful.
It was President Obama who declared in an e-mail to CBN News that “whatever we once were, we’re no longer just a Christian nation.”
This is the same administration that invited Lady Gaga into the White House for an anti-bullying conference but banned Franklin Graham from the Pentagon’s National Day of Prayer observances.
It was during the Obama administration that Christian school children were ordered to stop praying outside the Supreme Court building because they were violating the law. Instead, those American boys and girls were forced to pray for the elected officials while standing in a gutter.
It was President Obama who dropped the words “by their Creator” when reciting a key excerpt from the Declaration of Independence to the Congressional Hispanic Caucus – not once, but twice.
It was the Obama administration that opposed the commemoration of a prayer by Franklin Roosevelt at the site of the World War II Memorial on the Washington Mall, arguing that it would “dilute” the memorial’s central message.
And it was the Obama White House that asked Georgetown University to cover up all religious signs and symbols prior to a presidential address.
The Obama administration has used our military as a social engineering petri dish – pulling gay and lesbian soldiers out of the closet while pushing Christians back inside.
In recent days, we’ve learned that the Navy adopted and later rescinded a policy that would have banned parents from giving their wounded soldier-children Bibles at Walter Reed National Military Medical Center.
A Christian cross was removed from outside an Army chapel because it violated regulations. The Air Force Academy was forced to apologize for promoting Operation Christmas Child because it had ties to a Christian organization.
Critics, including many lawmakers, believe the Obama administration is trying scrub Christianity from the military.
Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2011/12/08/rick-perry-president-obama-and-war-on-christianity/#ixzz1g128HsQv
My name is Timothy Bladel. I’m from Davenport, Iowa. I am a Undergraduate, Double Majoring in Journalism & Mass communication, with my other major being political science. I am conservative in nature, sometimes a tad bit libertarian; the Tenth Amendment is vital to changing this country for the better.
Mitt Romney 2012, but not without the truth of who he is.
www.timothy-bladel.com
“We the people” tell the government what to do, it doesn’t tell us. We the people are the driver, the government is the car. And we decide where it should go, and by what route, and how fast.” Ronald Reagan’s farewell address (January 11, 1989)
There's one more center.
gekster (Diary) Friday, December 9th at 1:31AM EDT (link)Obama had sheets hung over the crucifixes at Notre Dame University when he gave a speech there.
They say Republicans are for the rich, Democrats are for the poor.
If they need more voters,
then they have to make more of who they are for.
We are there in the various Tea Party groups, leaderless, but not rudderless.
We steer always toward the Constitutional principles this nation was founded upon.
Erick Brockway
I’ve gone from
“Hope and Change” to
“Hopeless and Changeless”
speaking
trevorb (Diary) Friday, December 9th at 1:15AM EDT (link)for myself, I didn’t think it was one of his better ads, but I’m not willing to accuse him of hating homosexuals. Admittedly, I’m not what you’d call religious, but when you can’t say “Merry Christmas” to someone, we’ve got a few problems.
RIght, and that is the very problem
center77 (Diary) Friday, December 9th at 1:21AM EDT (link)the secular forces do not want equality, they want faith scrubed from all things public, but that is an attack on faith, in a country of faith that seems like it is not right. I think what Perry did was brave, and it is what makes me such a strong supporter.
My name is Timothy Bladel. I’m from Davenport, Iowa. I am a Undergraduate, Double Majoring in Journalism & Mass communication, with my other major being political science. I am conservative in nature, sometimes a tad bit libertarian; the Tenth Amendment is vital to changing this country for the better.
Mitt Romney 2012, but not without the truth of who he is.
www.timothy-bladel.com
“We the people” tell the government what to do, it doesn’t tell us. We the people are the driver, the government is the car. And we decide where it should go, and by what route, and how fast.” Ronald Reagan’s farewell address (January 11, 1989)
yeah
trevorb (Diary) Friday, December 9th at 1:50AM EDT (link)I admit it makes me a little weird.
I haven’t thrown my support behind Perry, although I’m keeping my eye on him, but that being said, I don’t intend to label him as homophobic and intolerant. That’s a serious accusation and not one to use mildly.
Hope this comes through, center & trevor -
pttx333 (Diary) Friday, December 9th at 1:55AM EDT (link)This what sends chills up and down my spine!!
well
trevorb (Diary) Friday, December 9th at 2:25AM EDT (link)what really worried me about Obama is the fact that the media almost never say a thing against him. They’ve been biased for over 40 years, but they used to have some integrity; all of that is gone. They’re not even pretending anymore.
He has to lose. I would prefer Gingrich or Perry, but I will vote for anyone rather than him, even a candidate I don’t like, because he honestly scares me and that’s not something I expected to say about any president.
b.o. is the only one who has kept me trembling, trevor!
pttx333 (Diary) Friday, December 9th at 2:27AM EDT (link)And I’ve been around a long, long time. There have been some presidents that I just couldn’t stand, but this one takes the cake! Bar None!
for me
trevorb (Diary) Friday, December 9th at 3:09AM EDT (link)Bush annoyed me, as did Gore, while Clinton and Kerry disgusted me, but Obama… he scares me and the sad thing is that he could very well win a second term, in spite of everything.
He told us he would transform America. We should have asked: “Into What?
Yes trevor ... b.o. said something like "This is
pttx333 (Diary) Friday, December 9th at 3:14AM EDT (link)greatest nation in the world and we are here to fundamentally change it.” That spoke volumes to me and was all I needed to know what he was and is all about. I never liked him from the moment I heard him speak – all I could think was “he’s a snake oil salesman from the carnival.” And that is all he is – only he is one dangerous snake oil guy. He is being controlled by someone(puppetmeister Soros?) and is carrying out his marching orders. May they all rot in hell! And that is the nicest thing I can say.
Pitiful spot we are in … all because folks wouldn’t listen to what b.o. really said.
throughout
trevorb (Diary) Friday, December 9th at 3:40AM EDT (link)the election, I couldn’t understand it. I’m ashamed to say I nearly voted for him, but my issue was with his inexperience. However, I heard his speech about bitter people clinging to guns and religion and turned against him.
However, cynical as I happen to be, he surpassed my expectations. I never expected an America where our banks and car companies would essentially be nationalized, that he intends to do the same thing with health care, that he would shove a carbon tax down our throats. As big of a spender as Bush proved to be, Obama expanded government 30 percent in one year.
and let’s not forget AttackWatch; that’s where the fear comes in. in spite of everything, the media is behind him.
All of what you say is absolutely true, trevor. Isn't it
pttx333 (Diary) Friday, December 9th at 3:49AM EDT (link)just awful? Never in my wildest dreams would I have envisioned an America that we live in today. Having been born in 1940, I was privvy to so many wonderful things in this beloved nation of ours … the innocence, safety, civility, dignity … and I grieve for those who never got the wonderful experience of living in those times.
I would imagine that my having lived so long and pretty much seen it all is what raised a huge flag in my head when I first heard b.o. He was and is so full of it and is actually a very stupid man. I see nothing brilliant about him. He is a good reader, and that is about it. When you take away his teleprompters, he can’t string together two sentences without stuttering and stammering like a fool. There is no “there” there – he is truly an empty suit – one which we know absolutely nothing about, or not in any provable way.
But keep the faith! We will prevail, because we must. I am in the tank for Perry all the way, but I’ve “known” him and voted for him many years now and am very satisfied with who and what he is. Good luck with your choice, whoever that may eventually be, trevor.
actually
trevorb (Diary) Friday, December 9th at 3:57AM EDT (link)I’m actually only 22 years old but I know how dangerous this can be. He’s made one gaffe after another and his vice president is the biggest idiot I’ve ever known.
Perry’s got a good record and I’m sure he’s a good governor, but I’m still unsure about him and frankly, I have a hard time seeing him win after everything. Course, I could be wrong; we’ll see. If he can convince me and he’s beginning to, I’ll give him my support.
There are three words I want to hear more than anything, though: Former President Obama.
You could be my grandson, trevor! In fact, my
pttx333 (Diary) Friday, December 9th at 4:05AM EDT (link)twin grandsons are 21. Isn’t that something? I know a lot of things are confusing to you yet, but you will get up to speed – it just takes time. You are at a wonderful place – RedState – to do just that. There is a wealth of information here and great people to help you through.
The general rule of thumb regarding voting is to vote your conservative choice of candidate in the primary, then vote for the nominee in the general election. That is what I do, always. Of course, this last go-round, I held my nose very tightly and voted for McCain – couldn’t stand the man, but he was the nominee and better than b.o. I just pray that I don’t have to hold my nose again.
But you are smart and will figure out what you need to do. There are tons of research gathered in this one spot right here on Red State. Do your homework and you’ll be fine.
Yep, me, too – nothing prettier than “The former president, b.o.” Sorry I cannot bring myself to capitalize either “president” or “b.o.” And I refer to him as b.o. because he stinks!
well
trevorb (Diary) Friday, December 9th at 4:11AM EDT (link)The two candidates I’m leaning towards are Gingrich and Perry. There are things about both I don’t like, but they have strong records and are far better than our current president.
From the sounds of it, I assume you live in Texas. I have the misfortune to live in California, where I’m seeing all of this and we’re not going to like it.
What I do know, though, is that obama can still win; too many write him off. He has a billion dollars or will and he intends to run the ugliest, most brutal, vicious you or I have ever seen. I’ve read even some Democrats are wishing they picked someone else and are complaining he’s too vicious and partisan. (says a lot)
I believe it’ll come down to two states: Florida and Ohio. He will win mine virtually no matter what.
Rule number one for me, trevor, is to keep the faith
pttx333 (Diary) Friday, December 9th at 4:23AM EDT (link)and to keep on keeping on, always. You just mush on with what you know is the right thing to do, then pray for the best outcome. Optimism is a wonderful thing while pessimism is a true downer in more ways than one. Sometimes we get down, but permit yourself to be down for maybe 5 minutes, then dust yourself off and keep on trucking. Or that is what works for me.
Yep, I’m from Texas, born in OK, but have lived here 67 years. I’ve had the luxury/good fortune of watching Perry and voting for him down through the years, so I know him to be a doer and an honest, decent man who has accomplished many great things. I will share with you a diary written a couple of weeks ago by onemovoter regarding Perry. Just for your information and for you to study at your leisure. Be sure to go to all of the links and read some of the comments. I was out of town at the time, but onemovoter shared it with me when I returned. Of course, I’m just an old woman, but it makes me cry whenever I read it.
http://www.redstate.com/onemovoter/2011/11/21/the-private-life-of-governor-rick-perry/
It will give you a little insight to the man, if you care to pursue it.
Take heart, trevor, and think for yourself. I’m sure that at your age and living where you do that you will hear many negative things about all of our candidates – and probably some of it will be completely untrue. You can do it, so chin up and keep on keeping on!
If you ever want to “talk” – just give me a shout, I’ll be around most every day.
I’m going to be shortly, so I won’t be here long tonight. Really good meeting you and talking with you.
Darn trevor ... meant to say I'm going to "bed" soon. nt
pttx333 (Diary) Friday, December 9th at 4:24AM EDT (link)s
Perry's my man......to the end of whatever comes.
avagreen Friday, December 9th at 4:29AM EDT (link)He’s the best choice of all candidates.
Rick Perry STILL! doesn’t have or need blood. He is filled with magma.
Rick Perry uses his bare hands to hunt.
Countdown Until Obama Leaves Office.
Couldn't have said it better, ava! Ditto and amen! nt
pttx333 (Diary) Friday, December 9th at 4:34AM EDT (link)b
sigh
trevorb (Diary) Friday, December 9th at 4:35AM EDT (link)I’m familiar with the tactics that the media uses. whoever they go after most viciously is the one they’re afraid of. There’s a certain smell of desperation around them. I remember the rock controversy; that charge was so bull of BS that even Texas democrats were defending Perry.
well, it was nice talking to good; good night, pttx.
I'm
trevorb (Diary) Friday, December 9th at 4:37AM EDT (link)keeping an open mind about him. He’s said his share of dumb things, but he’s done well in interviews and he’s got plenty of ideas I like.
I like Perry because of his economic record in Texas
serpounce Thursday, December 8th at 7:15PM EDT (link)But I don’t care for this culture warrior stuff at all. Claiming that Obama is waging a “war on religion” is just so unhelpful
I was disappointed that Perry fell in the polls, but now that he’s pulling out this nonsense to get back up I could care less about him..
After we balance the budget and get government under control we can start arguing about gays and god again, but until then it’s a sign of non-seriousness in my book.
Thats just not the way its going to work
center77 (Diary) Thursday, December 8th at 7:40PM EDT (link)we defend the faith when its attacked, not when we can feel its political expedient.
My name is Timothy Bladel. I’m from Davenport, Iowa. I am a Undergraduate, Double Majoring in Journalism & Mass communication, with my other major being political science. I am conservative in nature, sometimes a tad bit libertarian; the Tenth Amendment is vital to changing this country for the better.
Mitt Romney 2012, but not without the truth of who he is.
www.timothy-bladel.com
“We the people” tell the government what to do, it doesn’t tell us. We the people are the driver, the government is the car. And we decide where it should go, and by what route, and how fast.” Ronald Reagan’s farewell address (January 11, 1989)
christian faith is the gospel, not keepinh gays out of the military
federalfarmer1 (Diary) Thursday, December 8th at 8:08PM EDT (link)Or broadcasting prayers at football games. I’ll defend both, but faith is only the former
I Second Federalfarmer
serpounce Thursday, December 8th at 11:22PM EDT (link)If “faith” was really under attack sure, but this prayer in school stuff has been an ongoing gray-area issue for decades, it’s not some scary new move against Christianity.
The level of attacks are new
center77 (Diary) Friday, December 9th at 12:42AM EDT (link)and so what if we have been losing ground for years, its time we stand up and say enough.
My name is Timothy Bladel. I’m from Davenport, Iowa. I am a Undergraduate, Double Majoring in Journalism & Mass communication, with my other major being political science. I am conservative in nature, sometimes a tad bit libertarian; the Tenth Amendment is vital to changing this country for the better.
Mitt Romney 2012, but not without the truth of who he is.
www.timothy-bladel.com
“We the people” tell the government what to do, it doesn’t tell us. We the people are the driver, the government is the car. And we decide where it should go, and by what route, and how fast.” Ronald Reagan’s farewell address (January 11, 1989)
Perry would be much better off focusing on jobs and energy plan
Common_Cents (Diary) Thursday, December 8th at 7:25PM EDT (link)That is what is on peoples minds.
Why doesn’t he do an ad on North Dakota oil production? Under 3% unemployment, not enough housing for everyone(building oppty). This is right in Perry’s energy plan wheel house.
Please, if not Perry, somebody pick up on this.
America needs success stories.
“Fathom the hypocrisy of a Government
that requires every citizen to prove
they are insured…. but not everyone
must prove they are a citizen.” -Ben Stein
“In individuals, insanity is rare; but in groups, parties, nations and epochs, it is the rule.”[especially in DC] – Friedrich Nietzsche
Inspiration factor again, eh, Common Cents?
lineholder (Diary) Thursday, December 8th at 10:31PM EDT (link)I agree. I wholeheartedly agree.
I read a comment earlier today posted by someone who stated that one of the things Reagan managed to succeed in doing was to display an understanding of the American spirit. We need a bit of that right now…the American spirit, the American way, how it is and always has been different from the mindset and approach seen in any other country on the face of this earth, how it has succeeded in propelling growth and development of this nation over the years, why it matters, why it needs to be preserved….all of it.
We the people need some of that kind of inspiration. “Shining city on the hill” as Erick calls it.
like this optimism
Common_Cents (Diary) Friday, December 9th at 12:45AM EDT (link)“Fathom the hypocrisy of a Government
that requires every citizen to prove
they are insured…. but not everyone
must prove they are a citizen.” -Ben Stein
“In individuals, insanity is rare; but in groups, parties, nations and epochs, it is the rule.”[especially in DC] – Friedrich Nietzsche
Good ad by Perry, proud of Perry for it.
bzip Thursday, December 8th at 7:32PM EDT (link)Personally I loved the ad and it spoke volumes as to what is happening to America. I am sick of it. My mother is also sick of it, the way religion is being sweep under the rug by the liberals.
It was a good ad, for a specific reason and audience and I am happy Perry did it.
Agreed, defending the faith is on top of the list
center77 (Diary) Thursday, December 8th at 7:42PM EDT (link)and it is not the issue we can wait, its like the debt, ever inch that we give up is going to take years to get back. Its part of the reason this country is in decline. Character matters as well.
My name is Timothy Bladel. I’m from Davenport, Iowa. I am a Undergraduate, Double Majoring in Journalism & Mass communication, with my other major being political science. I am conservative in nature, sometimes a tad bit libertarian; the Tenth Amendment is vital to changing this country for the better.
Mitt Romney 2012, but not without the truth of who he is.
www.timothy-bladel.com
“We the people” tell the government what to do, it doesn’t tell us. We the people are the driver, the government is the car. And we decide where it should go, and by what route, and how fast.” Ronald Reagan’s farewell address (January 11, 1989)
I liked the ad...
nativetexan41 Thursday, December 8th at 9:23PM EDT (link)Perry is not ashamed of his faith. I think this ad speaks to the Christian and non
Christian alike. We all should see things are not right in this country. I am a 70 year old woman and it grieves me to see the decay of morals in this great country.
I pray that the Iowans will come out in support of him.
I am voting for him!!
This Perry ad had more than 500,000 Youtube hits
lizzie Thursday, December 8th at 9:27PM EDT (link)last time I checked.
I agree with bzip “It was a good ad, for a specific reason and audience”, plus it got Perry back into the 24/7 news cycle, which is obsessing over Gingrich v Romney.
I hope Iowa responds.
I also agree with those, like center77, who understand Perry was using a contrast, not attacking end of DADT, althoughhe does that in different venues, hence the conflation by the media.
This ad Really brought out the adolescent snark from what I consider the rational liberals at The Atlantic and The New Republic. (as opposed to the lunatics at HuffPo and to the left). Both magazines survive on their legacy of journalistic integrity that is now making Vanity Fair look serious.
I post comments at both under other names. Lizzie is an avatar. really need to change it here if I can figure out how.
Erick’s point is excellent – there IS a real disconnect when America’s foreign policy totally ignores the persecution of Christians in Islamic nations, but suddenly makes foreign aid conditional on the rights of LGBT. Both are human rights issues. Not sure whether either should be the basis for any American foreign aid. I am kind of on the side of major disaster relief and basic development assistance where it is not stolen.
Obama is losing so much support that he only has the LGBT and lawfare-enviros base. and abortion.
As always, Rick Perry leads, even when it seems controversial at first.
Perry's ad makes it big time
bzip Thursday, December 8th at 9:34PM EDT (link)Just amazing. The man of faith ad has hit 747,000 hits and it was recently released. It must have really peeved the lib’s off big time
.
What is also amazing, I hadn’t realized it but the President Zero ad that Perry did a long time ago now has over 2,000,000 hits
Strong
President Zero:
Rick Perry – Proven Leadership
Cats Walking Across Keyboards
pcscipio Thursday, December 8th at 10:08PM EDT (link)Get more hits. Don’t be i-net illiterate.
confession
trevorb (Diary) Friday, December 9th at 12:50AM EDT (link)I must admit, out of the ads I’ve seen, I couldn’t help but enjoy “President Zero”. Has a nice ring to it.
Most people
Lucas Black Friday, December 9th at 2:51AM EDT (link)Most people seem to have clicked on that ad to ‘dislike’ it. More than 50% of the people who have viewed it have disliked it. That’s a staggering percentage.
It’s a narrowly focused ad. Perry has given up on broad appeal and is trying to get a few more points in Iowa to grab the bronze medal. I don’t blame him for trying, but it shows the limited cards he has left in his hand.
Perry's Ad is taking the liberals on big time
bzip Friday, December 9th at 6:14AM EDT (link)Wow, the religion ad by Perry that everyone is talking about was at 747,000 hist yesterday and is now at: 2,255,000 hits this morning.
The ad is really peeving the lib’s off big time. It goes to the heart of them. The few lib’s I know just hate how Perry has hit them on religion.
bzip, Perry's faith ad has sparked alot of buzz
circlegranch Friday, December 9th at 7:29AM EDT (link)and what’s so incredibly brilliant about this ad is, when Rick mentions gays in the military, he doesn’t directly attack THEM. What he does attack is the sanctimony and hypocrisy of the Left when it comes to social issues. The progressives, aided and abetted by DOD officials and many Republicans, were able to overturn Don’t Ask, Don’t Tell but then in contrast, those same folks that claim people have a right to personal expression of their chosen lifestyle in a public setting won’t tolerate a public expression of Christianity, i.e., Nativity Scenes on court house lawns, prayer in school or at a graduation or football game. The Left fought hard to make sure that the personal inclinations of someone’s sexuality has a legitimate, high profile place in govt—in our military. Yet, when Christians want to quietly and privately pray in school—another govt entity—we are told ‘NO’ because its too divisive and brings a facet of our lives into the public square that might offend someone. Sexual choices aren’t offensive to some?
Perry did not specifically attack gays in this ad, he simply and adeptly draws the ridiculous comparison of what is allowed and tolerated by this president and his ilk and what is demoralized and forbidden.
Whomever is producing his ads and whomever is running his website are all people doing stellar jobs of promoting the next President of the United States.
Looks like Perry was right.
runner12 (Diary) Thursday, December 8th at 8:55PM EDT (link)Listen, to say there is not a war being raged by Leftists against religion is pure blindness. This is especially true if you are Christian or Jewish. Look at all of the anti-semetic rhetoric at the OWS rallies. Also, why is is it every Christmas one group sues because a cross is displayed or a Christmas tree is put up. My goodness, people are offended if you say Merry Christmas!
This is not tolerance, it is bigotry and forced group think. I am not offended if someone displays a symbol of their faith at all because I believe in their freedom to do so. The Left does not.
Hey, Hey, Hey
pcscipio Thursday, December 8th at 9:06PM EDT (link)Erickson’s dead wrong! The Obama Administration isn’t blocking funding for USCIRF. A bill to reauthorize the USCIRF for an additional 2 years passed the House 3 months ago, but Senate Majority Whip Richard Durbin (D-Ill) put a “hold” on the bill because he wants the federal government to buy an unused maximum-security prison in Illinois and turn it into a federal facility.
Get your Democratic scum right!
BZip...
tnguy Thursday, December 8th at 9:37PM EDT (link)If Perry and his campaign were working half as hard as you have on his behalf, the nomination would already be his.
“Guard with jealous attention the public liberty. Suspect everyone who approaches that jewel. Unfortunately, nothing will preserve it but downright force. Whenever you give up that force, you are ruined.”
tnguy - thanks.
bzip Thursday, December 8th at 9:46PM EDT (link)Now its time to say hello to the pillow for me.
Barack Obama's pandering is just that -- pandering
aesthete (Diary) Thursday, December 8th at 9:59PM EDT (link)I’d bet any sum of money that regardless of what Obama signs into law or mandates as an EO during his administration regarding gay rights *or* religious rights, we’re going to keep funneling money and support into Iraq and Afghanistan — both countries that have horrible track records on either issue, even in their current “democratic” iterations.
Obama’s just reshufling chairs, that’s all.
“It is a popular delusion that the government wastes vast amounts of money through inefficiency and sloth. Enormous effort and elaborate planning are required to waste this much money.”
-P.J. O’Rourke
Hey, Read Above
pcscipio Thursday, December 8th at 10:04PM EDT (link)Obama’s not doing this!!!!!!!
Attn: tomatin, cleanup in isle 5!
snowshooze (Diary) Thursday, December 8th at 10:16PM EDT (link)Man, ya got work.
Perry Prefaced His Campaign with a Prayer Meeting
kipling (Diary) Thursday, December 8th at 11:02PM EDT (link)The video appears to be standard fare for social conservatives. It is not a desperation play but simply the continuation of how Perry presented himself at the beginning of the campaign.
If gays in the military is so popular an issue, then why did the Democrats push it through in the midst of a lame duck session. Why did they ignore or misrepresent readiness studies? Why did they not make it a campaign issue?
Christianity is Offensive
kipling (Diary) Friday, December 9th at 10:22AM EDT (link)True Biblical Christianity – not the weak-kneed, watered down liberal variety – is highly offensive to many and for good reason.
Christianity teaches the inability of man to save himself. One has to accept salvation as a gift based on the death of Christ on the cross. This offends our pride and need to “do it ourselves” and “our way.”
Christianity teaches that the government is not the answer to all of our problems.
Christianity teaches that utopia will only come when Christ returns. The socialists, the liberals, the communists, and other will not usher in the kingdom.
Christianity teaches that there is a higher standard and a higher authority than the government.
Christianity teaches that there is a higher standard and a higher authority than ourselves.
Christianity teaches that when a society rejects God and his standards that that society (and its government) is no better than a beast that will devour its own people.
Christianity teaches that President Obama is simply another ruler that God holds in the palm of His hand. Obama’s days are numbered – just like those of all men. He can do nothing outside the parameters God has set for him. The evil he does will serve a higher purpose for good.
Christianity teaches that the Christian is to oppose evil – not compromise with it and not tolerate it.
If I was a leftist who had rejected any authority above my own sinful will, then I would be highly offended by Christianity. Heck, I am a Christian and sometimes Christianity offends me. The difference is that I realize the problem is with me and not Christianity.