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"I did not have sexual relations with that woman" arrives at "I did not read those newsletters with my name on them."

By: Erick Erickson (Diary)  |  December 22nd, 2011 at 01:53 PM  | 

RESIZE: AAA

Let me get this straight.

Twenty years ago someone put some crazy, racist stuff in newsletters bearing Ron Paul’s name and written in the first person as if they were from Ron Paul.

Ron Paul never read them.

Ten years ago, when confronted with some of the crazy stuff (I’m trying really hard not to use “crazy s**t” here), Ron Paul says he wrote them, but they must be taken in their whole context to understand them.

Fast forward to the present and Ron Paul never wrote them, does not know who wrote them, cannot recall the names of anyone who worked for him who might have written them, is shocked to learn he made big money off them, and people think this guy has the qualifications to be President of the United States?

Letting someone write bat crap crazy stuff under your name, not knowing who they are or what they are doing, profiting from them, then taking responsibility before denying responsibility is credible?!

If we’re to take Ron Paul at his word, maybe we need to get him an Alzheimer’s test. He is old. Hell, if pigs did fly and he did get elected President, he’d be 81 at the end of his first term.

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  • http://www.thehayride.com MacAoidh

    …is for him to win in Iowa.

    Because if he does the media will give him the same gang initiation treatment they’ve given to all the other Non-Romneys. And Paul is a lot less able to stand up to that scrutiny than any of the others.

    He’ll be done in no time with that glare in his eyes.

  • Bill S

    that says a President can’t deliver the SOTU while using a walker.

    So, RON PAUL!! CONSTITUTION, BABY!!!

  • http://www.changeforrickperry.org louisianapatriette

    “I didn’t know that woman.”

    “I didn’t pay her $35,000…”

    “Yes, we did give her some money…”

    “I recognize that woman but not that one.”

    “Yes, I knew that woman and gave her money, but I was only trying to help her out…”

    “I’m announcing a suspension of my campaign.”

    Like a clock, but instead of “tick-tock, tick-tock…” it’s “flip-flop, flip-flop…”

  • Death_of_the_Donkey

    So these things had to go to a printer and get laid out and mailed and what not. The idea that he never at least read them is a bit far fetched (and I don’t doubt that the good Dr. wrote some/all of them either).

    But remember, GOLD! GOLD! GOLD!

  • http://www.liberty-freedom.org victor_cocchia

    Reality and Ron Paul have never gone hand in hand. This is a man who has made a living building his cult following based on conspiracy theories, anti-American rhetoric and hate speech. There is a reason why he only appeals to those who would normally never vote Conservative.

    What is a shame is that we are letting him pervert the Iowa caucuses. His campaign and minions are purposely targeting Dems and anti-troop independents in order to get them to vote in our caucus for the sole purpose of painting the party as loons. They know that a Ron Paul victory damages the Republican brand nationally. While Obama is by far the worst President of the last 150 years, he looks sane and Presidential compared the conspiracy theorist, anti-semite Paul. It is a perfect way to deliver a knockout punch to the GOP. They will paint all conservatives as maniacal based on their choice of a racist, isolationist, anti-troop, anarchist like Paul.

    It’s disturbing, but what is even more disturbing is we are allowing it to happen. Because the caucus will let anyone register the day of the caucus they will be able to get their anti-America crowd in there to vote, and deliver Paul a victory. It is, and will be, a sad day for America. This man knows nothing of Liberty and perverts the Constitution to fit, and justify, his own anti-Americans policies.

  • acat

    Article 4 of our 25th amendment …

    Mew

  • dp79

    as a republican!! He’s not a republican, yet the clown gets all the benefit of the tv time of debates. He left the party to run for president and came limping back for the name recognition of the party. He’s an absolute fraud. If you debate the paulbots those points on their sites they will ban you immediately because this destroys most of their primary arguments. How about this also, Ron Paul is running for president on taxpayer money, the man he’s accusing of not being honest Newt Gingrich isn’t employed by the government yet, neither is Santorum or Romney. Just a thought. I’d vote Perry first but I always thought that was a great point that the man as pure as the driven snow is running for office on taxpayer money. Ron Paul is a fraud and a liberal. Love the column Erick about time people are holding this joker to the fire.

  • clowngirl

    I’ll send them money.

    This and an ad about Ron Paul endorsing Cynthia McKinney would do nicely.

  • http://www.thehayride.com MacAoidh

    …as to say he shouldn’t be in the debates.

    A lot of what Paul has done has actually been positive, in terms of economic and monetary policy. There are elements of his message that the party at large should incorporate.

    All of which does NOT make Ron Paul a suitable messenger. He is not. I think his son may well be over time, and I wish Peter Schiff wasn’t in Connecticut where a guy like him has no shot at winning office (Schiff’s application of Austrian economics to the current situation is something which needs a hearing on Capitol Hill). But the old man? Hell no.

  • tomatin

    I could care less if he knew about the news letters besides the fact that it reinforce my view that Paul is NOT conservative. He’s a radical in every way and it has nothing to do with his policy positions.

    My biggest disagreement with Paul is on foreign policy. His muslim loving policies would be an utter disaster. I mean he would not have even taken out Bin Laden. I wonder how the GOP even lets him be a party member with views like that.

  • jimmuy8

    You can’t blame Nor Luap if he can’t ferret out which of those on the massive, sprawling staff of 7 was the closet racist sending out racist missives to smear his 2012 Presidential campaign.

    I mean, he only made something like a million a year off the newsletter and only bragged about how great it was–there is no way he could have known what was going on . . . .

  • ohiohistorian

    or an idiot? Which applies to his newsletters? Where are your responses to Eric’s allegations? Only fools vote for someone who votes against bills with earmarks, but then turns around and claims that ALL spending should be earmarks? Or that HIS earmarks are still in the bills he knocks and refuses to vote for? He demagogues an issue, but still benefits.

    Ron is a fraud and a anti-Semite of the Jeremiah Wright type. Good luck on Ron standing up to the media. I want to watch this old fraud taken down to size.

  • sarasotasandy

    Another example of a politician, the last being Herman Cain, who is an enemy of the lobbyists. The inconvenient truth for all of these anti-Washingtonians is that when the time is right, they will be taken out. After reading a synopsis of Jon Hunstman and our tax code, he had better have been a saint in his previous life; if he gains any traction, he will be next. We can all commiserate about the liberals; however, they are merely a tool in the hands of the lobbyists who control our national government with their money and promises of more, more, more to our elected offcials. Speaking engagements. Contracts after they leave office, etc. aka Newt Gingrich.
    We need term limits and a simplified tax code to rescue all of us from the swamp that is on the Potomoc.

  • Dave_A

    With his absurd views…..

    It has nothing to do with being ‘an enemy of the establishment’….

    It has to do with advocating an economic system that would bankrupt ‘Main Street’ by rendering all personal & commercial debt unable to be repaid (Due to deflation)….

    It has to do with advocating a foreign policy that has the US ‘Elephant’ running scared of any 3rd-world ‘mouse’ that says ‘BOO!’ about our foreign or economic policies…

    It has to do with open association with various fringe anti-constitution organizations/individuals – neo-confederates, neo-nazis, Alex Jones, and so on… And with printing and selling newsletters to these groups, which indicate that Ron shares their views…. These letters not only contain racist drivel, but in true leftist fashion accuse our Gulf War veterans of being war criminals – simply because they used bulldozers to bury occupied enemy fortifications rather than risk lives sending dismounted troops to engage with hand grenades….

    There’s no ‘kabal’ of conspirators framing Ron up with these positions… Ron actually believes & advocates these things…

    And thus he deserves all the scorn he gets here and elsewhere…

  • trickamsterdam

    and claim that the conservative in the race should not be able to debate?

    Around 10% of Republicans are libertarians. That means he doesn’t have enough support to win, but does have enough to justify being heard.

    Also, putting the racism/anit-semitism aside (which is not nothing) and just looking at positions, someone like Rick Santorum says things that are just as crazy (e.g. why is including the unborn as people under the equal protection clause less crazy than decriminalizing heroin?).

  • Bill S

    There’s NOTHING IN THERE about walkers. HE WILL WIN!!!!11!!1!

    (Sorry, my vacation starts today, and I’m in full-metal weird mode)

  • http://www.timothy-bladel.com/ center77

    The issue that all of us need to remember is that beating President Obama is the goal next year, and winning against an incumbent is never easy to do, that is why I feel we must have a guy who governed a state that created 40% of all net new jobs in the United States for the last 11 years. What we cannot do is run a guy who has his name written all over chauvinistic newsletter up against the nation?s first black president. We would be coming from such a weakened position that I do not think we could ever come back.
    Conservatives need to stop running towards these guys with intense personal baggage like Gingrich and Paul, and come back to Rick Perry for all the reason we loved him in the first place. The plan Perry is championing not only works wonders for Texas, it also cleans up the Washington’s corrupt culture that should be the goal for any president, and I do not see anybody else even talking about it.

  • acat

    (as for “weird”, a challenge for you – if your clan leave a TV on, change it to a non-English-language channel and see how long it takes anyone to notice…)

  • bpitas

    It’s laughable to say that Ron Paul “can’t stand up to scrutiny”. You’re talking about Dr. No, the guy who has been single handedly taking on the establishment for 30 years. Look at how easily he schooled the bat-crazy war-hawks Bachmann and Santorum? (And Rudy back in 2008!) He ate them alive!
    How do you think Obama is going to be able to stand up to a debate with Ron Paul with no teleprompter? The thing that makes Ron Paul great is that when he speaks, he’s actually saying what he feels as opposed to parroting what some handler said his audience wanted to hear like Romney. The best part about always telling the truth is that you don’t have to remember which lie you told. If you want to see someone who can’t stand up to scrutiny, just look at Romney. When Fox started finally asking something other than softball questions pre-approved by his GOP handlers, he got all grumpy and crossed his legs back and forth a half dozen times. God help Romney if he gets into a debate with Obama, he’ll get eaten alive!

  • Bill S

    Guess you haven’t noticed that Ron Paul fans need not apply here.

  • Bill S

    Back at ‘ya!

    (But not sure the language thing will work. I have 2 kids at home, and between them, they’ve taken 4 foreign languages at college. But maybe the Japan channel will work… )

  • http://pocketchangeproductions.net/ anotherindyfilmguy

    Not because he would win the nomination but rather because of wake up call to the rest of the primary process.

    Also – you’re spot on about the media giving him the treatment that destroys – the only problem might be they’d puff him up first to get the nomination then do him in during the general election.

  • http://www.changeforrickperry.org louisianapatriette

    This is the best articulation of Ron Paul’s connections that maniac Lew Rockwell, as well as of Ron Paul’s foreign policy, I have ever read.

    Some excerpts:

    “My challenge is this: Go spend ten minutes on Lew?s website every day for one month, and then decide if you have the stomach to support Ron Paul. In that month you are likely to hear that Winston Churchill was a worse war criminal than Joseph Stalin or Adolf Hitler. You will hear celebration that Tony Snow died of cancer (because he did, after all, support the Iraq war). You will find out that Lew believes the Constitution is a statist document. You will read that the men and women serving our military are despicable little immoral creatures, trained to kill innocent parties….

    “I spent several hours speaking with Ron Paul shortly after 9/11. He informed me that the Islamicist threat was a made up one, just as the Communist threat of the 1950?s and 1960?s was. He told me, to my face, in his own words, that Lew Rockwell and his people were the only ones calling a spade a spade: America did deserve what the Islamicists were trying to do to us, and if we simply learned to leave them alone, they would in turn leave us alone. It was among the most despicable and disappointing conversations I have ever had with another adult….”

    “One can not spend thirty years connected to holocaust-deniers, anti-semites, and explicit anarchists without red flags going up…”

    “In 2008 this man stood on the stage at a Republican candidate debate and said that ?the 9/11 hijackers were just a few thugs with box-cutters?. His foreign policy worldview is not merely one of opposing U.S. intervention in Iraq and Afghanistan; he believes that America is the provocateur in global activity. His worldview would never allow America to properly defend herself. Now, reasonable people can disagree about this subject (and many know I was once dangerously influenced by the perspective of the isolationists as well). My concern is not Ron Paul?s errors on this subject. My concern is that he has used the freedom movement to generate name recognition and fame, and then through sleight of hand converted the popularity over his limited government rhetoric to promote an agenda of anti-Americanism and military isolationism.”

    http://www.davidbahnsen.com/index.php/2011/05/21/the-undiscerning-and-dangerous-appreciation-of-ron-paul/

  • sunshinek67

    Ron Paul made dollars from his racist propaganda newsletters. David Duke revisited. I’m starting to wonder about those crazy Internet rumors that he might actually have a *gasp* white gown hanging in his closet. Nutty old man has absolutely NO business on that GOP stage, let alone on a primary ballot!!

  • Scope

    written by someone who had many personal discussions with Paul himself. This was one of my favorite passages in the article-

    ?I spent several hours speaking with Ron Paul shortly after 9/11. He informed me that the Islamicist threat was a made up one, just as the Communist threat of the 1950?s and 1960?s was. He told me, to my face, in his own words, that Lew Rockwell and his people were the only ones calling a spade a spade: America did deserve what the Islamicists were trying to do to us, and if we simply learned to leave them alone, they would in turn leave us alone. It was among the most despicable and disappointing conversations I have ever had with another adult?.?

    The Islamicist threat, as well as the Communist threat is all just made up? You would think that with Communists now out of the closet in America, and some serving in the Obama administration, that he would have to rethink his positions, nope.

    I had linked this same article a few times here, as did someone else. Not many seemed to think it important because Paul was just a kook who would never get near the keys to the WH. Just ignore him. That has been at our own peril because now he has grown the organization C4L tenfold since the 08 elections, and is unfortunately polling in the number 2 or 3 slot in many states polling. Now can we take the dangers of Paul seriously? This could have been avoided much sooner if he would just have gotten a thorough vetting long before now when he can have a disastrous effect on this years elections.

  • throwback59

    but if he just said those offensive articles were written by his “mentor” who just happened to be “a guy in the neighborhood” the press might have left him alone.

  • Scope

    were having hissy fits because Obama was accepting 2008 campaign donations from Mickey Mouse, The Dallas Cheerleaders, and a group of palestinians? Ron Paul was asked at one time about donations to his campaign from the KKK, Stromfront etc., and he said that no he didn’t think it necessary to return those donations, and that he has no control over who supports him.

    It seems that I read somewhere in the past that RR was supported, or had gotten donations from some shady group, and he immediately and publically denounced their support. Maybe someone here can shed some light on that.

  • clintonformccain

    a good man like Haley Barbour is driven from the race as as “racist” for the crimes of having a southern drawl and not being actively engages in the civil rights movement as a 14 year old boy.

    Yet a despicable racist crack pot like Ron Paul gets a free pass.

    Can you imagine if Haley Barbour or Rick Perry had sent out those newsletters?

    Why haven’t Republican leaders been speaking out against this guy for years?

  • http://www.changeforrickperry.org louisianapatriette

    I read THE WHOLE THING out loud to my mom while she baked Christmas goodies. We were floored.

    You see, we’ve always felt SOME respect for Ron Paul. We always appreciated his economic philosophies/writings, especially where the Fed is concerned (Rick Perry thinks the same way :D ). His foreign policy we didn’t like, but we always figured, well, if Perry were to die or something, Paul would have to be our (distant) second choice.

    The last debate, however, made me look at Ron Paul in a whole new way. He was nasty to Michele Bachmann, he hollered like a crazy man, and the things he was saying about Iran scared the heck out of me. I left that debate feeling very disgusted and disappointed with Ron Paul. Ever since then I’ve felt a very real wariness of him; all the things coming out about his newsletter have made me even more repulsed. This article was the last straw. I have despised Lew Rockwell ever since he called the Christians at the Houston Response “Muslim-hating troop-worshipers,” but this article opened my eyes to see just how close and Ron Paul really are.

    A Twitter friend of mine told me yesterday that we needed to launch an “Ardennes offensive” on Paul. I’ve agreed and pulled out the long knives, but I still do so with some degree of sadness and reluctance because my best friend, a dear sweet girl who I love dearly, is a (benign) Paul supporter. She and I have had wonderful discussions about Paul and Perry and really respect each others decision. I still respect her decision (I can’t change her mind and she can’t change mine, and we acknowledge/respect that), but I no longer think Paul is even a remotely good choice.

    Perry had better stay really healthy, because if anything were to happen to him I don’t know who I’d support in the primaries.

  • http://edgeinducedcohesion.wordpress.com nathanalbright

    …it’s not crazy to think that the unborn deserve protection under the equal protection clause, given that many of us who are Conservative Republicans (and I am such a one) consider fetuses to be worthy of full protection as humans based on biblical precedents (which have been discussed elsewhere). That’s not a good comparison–that dog won’t hunt.

  • http://edgeinducedcohesion.wordpress.com nathanalbright

    …why is it that so many supporters of candidates like Ron Paul and Newt are using the “Cain Defense.” It’s disgraceful.

  • http://edgeinducedcohesion.wordpress.com nathanalbright

    Life’s not fair. This is just another example of selling out one’s principles for political expediency, like the vain hope that Paultards will become loyal Republicans.

  • http://www.savejersey.com mattdeluca

    Absolutely spot on. Ron Paul’s message of libertarian ideas is good but he is the absolute wrong person to be the messenger for them – Gary Johnson was slightly better but got absolutely no bounce.

  • jenza

    I am just getting into this, and I have heard from a bunch of Ron Paul people. I have to say. I like what I hear so far, but you guys seem to say the opposite. Check this out and tell me if this is true:

    http://www.clubforgrowth.org/whitepapers/?subsec=137&id=921

    And I cant find anywhere where he did anything shady with earmarks. He says its the motive and graft that has given earmarks a bad name, not earmarks themselves. He says he wants everything earmarked and is very unapologetic. I dont know what to think. Tell me what I’m missing here.

    http://www.ronpaul.com/2009-03-11/ron-paul-on-earmarks/

  • lineholder

    has anyone other than me noticed Romney’s behavior lately? He was actually animated during the last debate. And he participated in a Tea Party forum this week. Tea Party? Romney?

    I hope people see through it.

  • ripusa32110

    You’ll get your Romney/Obama race and business as usual will prevail and the money interests of the FED and Wall Street Bankers will win again. They always win. Oh, and you’ll get that war in Iran many on RS seem to want so badly. One question, how will you pay for your next war?
    I’ve seen this act before, Pat Buchanan 1996, and it is the same story. Buchanan/Paul are called anti-semetic and voila,Buchanan/Paul are sent packing as they so richly deserve and the powers that be get their man as the republican nominee. Of course,the nominee, Dole/Romney, lose in the general election.

  • gekster

    I must have missed that.
    Got any quotes, or just assumptions.

  • Bill S

    When you predicted your demise as a Ronulan. Oh well…sometimes we miss the hints.

  • poligu

    I have been a RedState reader for a while. I have to say, that this new trend for the future of RedState is disturbing and I dope it doesn’t represent the future of the site.

    What does it mean to be a conservative? Conservatism is not a party, it is not a group, and it is not truly a political ideology.

    Conservatism is a result. It is the result of a mentality that drives a person to make decisions through rational thought instead of emotion or personal desire.

    This article is not conservatism. What RedState is attempting to do in this election is not conservatism.

    I get it, you like Governor Perry. Fine. Let’s have this discussion in the arena of ideas and not bring in what the left calls Carl Rove like tactics of anything goes as long as the man you believe is best for the job wins.

    No one with a rational mind that looks at Ron Paul’s history, statements, or platform would possibly believe that he is a racist. He has legitimate flaws, just as Perry, Romney, and Gingrich do. RedState should address those issues and come back into the arena of ideas and leave this mud slinging to the Democrat primaries.

  • http://edgeinducedcohesion.wordpress.com nathanalbright

    …his own letters are full of racist and anti-Semitist rants. Just because you don’t want to see it doesn’t make Red State liberal for pointing this out as part of its ongoing vetting process. Just as Cain didn’t get a pass because he was black for his “monkey business” on the Cain Train, Ron Paul doesn’t get to pass off his bigotry either. No one with a rational mind looking at what Ron Paul has said and written could support him for the town dog catcher, much less POTUS.

  • davesinsanantonio

    lefty media would embrace him and give him all the air time he wants.

    Of course, they will butterfly him and roast him in the general, but until then they will try their hardest to get him the Republican nomination because they know that would eventually discredit the party for decades, maybe forever. The media is not our friend, nor really the friend of American, so they will help him all they can until he secures the nomination at the convention. Then they will destroy him and us right along with the country.

  • celador2

    If Ron Pual stood for , ‘Nuke ‘em now! we would not see this hit job on him.

    Carney at The Examiner warned last week that Ron Paul would be attacked not for his views on money, limited government, taxes etc Fed reserve or even foreign policy directly but racism. I have not read the words that seem to shake RS to its core. But Paul has disavowed them.

    Paul is for less war and occupation much as US was before Iraq. I want a president who will put out some fires not start more. This bombing Iran is on the table with many and is the only game plan.

    I heard Paul say the drums of war are beating and nations with weapons need be treated as they were in Cold war with more caution and respect. That makes sense to me. Incredibly, not with a branch of Republicans since 2001 apparently or with those who dominate media and talk radio. Intervening in wars and starting wars is the first option not the last in both parties.

    Hence this preoccupation by Republicans and DNC types with old stuff that is not related to issues today. Change the subject to discredit a man who is no isolationist but is cautious on intervention.

    I hesitate t speak of peace on earth for fear of being attacked and insulted.

    I argued with a Liberal once who now backs war as I recall a statement from Bill Buckley, an early conservtive voicea man whom RS would probaly kick too were he alive to kick. He was at odds with necons over war with Iran. and said,

    “Think of the look of terror in an Iranian child’s eyes if US bombed Iran.”

    I never forget that image and my appreciation for Bill Buckley is stronger than ever. (But Buckley would be out of step with the hip shock jocky CPAC and its members of late.) War is not first option but then maybe it is.

    So we see— and its in part from the heart— the effort by Fox, corporate media ,cable and others to discredit Ron Paul on 20 year old comments in a newsletter which he has disavowed.

    I can not comment on the remarks in question. They are not listed. Are they so offensive we can not take them? Anyone who can forgive Newt Gingrich and see evolutionary progress and grovel and slobber all over him ought to cut some slck for Ron Paul imo.

  • http://edgeinducedcohesion.wordpress.com nathanalbright

    It is Ron Paul’s racist hypocrisy and his association with unacceptable neo-Nazi figures that is a question here, not his nutty foreign policy or your apparent lack of reading comprehension skills. Might I suggest you lay off the drugs and take some remedial reading courses before beclowning yourself here?

  • celador2

    Ron Paul is in my top four choices for president.

    I am curious what Ron Paul said that has directed so attention from many of his core policy positions today from his excellent grasp of constituion to foreign policy as a nation of peace who promotes freemarket solutions more than any candidate. I promise I am strong enough to handle the rolling waves of shock I might feel if you post the 20 year old remarks that appeared in a small newsletter. He has disavowed them and they are not his current views.

    I can not comment without seeing them. Reading charges he is a bigot makes your position clear but I am in the dark how you came to your conclusions to drive the man out of GOP race for president; Ah, but many rivals never cared for Paul for others reasons mostly terms for wars and occupation, I suspect.

    As I posted to another, is it possible to cut Ron Paul some slack, he has disavowed them.

    Or is he too far gone?

  • http://edgeinducedcohesion.wordpress.com nathanalbright

    …and the moderators have a shoot-on-sight policy towards avowed Paul supporters. Might I recommend a lower profile, given the lengthy evidence that has been posted from reason.com about Paul’s long flirtation with openly neo-Nazi and KKK-level racism and his contradictory statements about them, at first openly admitting they were his own work and that liberal media were simply too dumb to understand him and then, starting about 2001 or so, disavowing any involvement in or knowledge of them, even as the racist newsletter had netted him about $1 million or so?

  • http://www.hakubi.us/ Neil Stevens

    Way, way, way too far gone.

    Every chance he has to back down and sane up, he does the opposite, as he did in every debate.

  • celador2

    Is that clear?

    You charged I do drugs and can not read. I am also not the topic but felt a need to defend myself against a fase accusation.

  • http://edgeinducedcohesion.wordpress.com nathanalbright

    …and note that the criticism of Ron Paul here has nothing to do with his kooky and unacceptably isolationist foreign policy views but rather his blatant hypocrisy of profiting off of vile bigotry and then, when the heat in the kitchen is too much to take, trying to disavow them even as he continues to wink and nod to the fellow tinfoil hat types that he really still does believe in these things, as well as his troofer nonsense and conspiracy theories about JFK.

  • poligu

    I run a site that shows info on candidates ranging from political positions to controversies and all sorts of things (PoliGu.com). I have covered Paul, Perry, Gingrich, and Romney and have never come across anything even remotely racist by Paul.

    I have searched for the original newsletters and haven’t found anything. If anyone knows where they are, please drop a link in here.

    On a general note, I hope that anyone that comes to this site sees these articles and comments as what they are – political theater meant to distract from the topics.

  • http://edgeinducedcohesion.wordpress.com nathanalbright

    …but here’s as close to primary documents as I can get:

    http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2011/12/the-story-behind-ron-pauls-racist-newsletters/250338/#.TvKnInuXFVY

    And truth be told, the article linked here denies that Ron Paul wrote them himself but has legitimate concerns about its importance in Ron Paul’s general “libertarian freak flag” operation as to how this disqualifies him as a legitimate candidate for President.

  • renl57

    “He informed me that the Islamicist threat was a made up one, just as the Communist threat of the 1950?s and 1960?s was. ”

    During the Cold War, while libertarians denounced the Communist system as evil, they stoutly maintained that it was no threat to capitalist countries. They opposed U.S. defense spending and just about every attempt–military and otherwise–the U.S. made to stop Communism from taking over foreign countries.

    That’s a big reason why conservatives back then were denouncing libertarians rather than welcoming them.

  • http://edgeinducedcohesion.wordpress.com nathanalbright

    …myself included, aren’t very friendly towards libertarians either.

  • nancysabet

    Paul should’ve not given Republican platform to run his campaign. He is not Rep. and he is a fraud. MSM is using him to redicule and destroy the other credable candidates like Perry, and Newt.

  • nancysabet

    if he even gets there.

  • josephine

    I’m in agreement with you. I think it’s disgraceful that the people of this country have to be subjected to his rants and his racism.
    He is a fool or worse, he is ill.he has no business being in this race. His family should have reined him in a long time ago.
    Obama is our enemy, it would be good if we could all concentrate on that problem.
    Merry Christmas to all. May Holder be arrested, may Obama lose, may we replace the Senate Republicans who support Reid be voted out,may our country live through the travesty we are going through.
    May the Obama’s disappear from our lives. In order to get these things done, we have to get down to business. May Mitt be exposed for the sleaze he is. Sometimes the sleazes come in disguise.All dressed up as a goody goody.

  • celador2

    My defense was to Paul’s policies specifically restraint on war in a context of war drums. This was first time I ever commented specifically on Ron Paul .The articles were posted for comment.

    I get the point! But if every issue is like that,

    Before you know it all you have are rubber stamps and a group think in lock step and circular. .Its hopeless. I will risk being banned but maybe RS should not post an article if it wants only’ I agree’.

    My original plans were to post maybe, today on the federal judiciary historically and on some remarks Newt made on calling a judge before Congress. And secondly Newt has taken hits on backing Teddy Roosevelt , unfair hits.

    I had hoped to post also on his Ny- 23 backing 2009 special and Pure Food and drug Act 1907 being necessary. Perhap the Sherman suit against JP Morgan too. TR did good work but Newt got hit unfairly for admiring him in early 20c by media pundits.

    I have critiicized Newt 100% of my posts to date, but because of the issues above around TR I now put forward the side supporting Newt’s views on Pure Food and Drug act 07 and backing the local party’s choice in NY 23 because it was a local choice.He has recanted that sadly giving in to mob action. These are policy stands that go beyond a personality.

    But Newt and his admiring TR was not a topic today. Newt is dumb as they come much of the time and tone deaf but he knows history and has perspective some of the time.

  • http://edgeinducedcohesion.wordpress.com nathanalbright

    Your points largely seem irrelevant. I’m pretty patient as far as threadjacking goes, being someone who prefers to follow the near context of a thread rather than making sure it is entirely in line with the given thread, but when you take an author if a diary to task for something which he isn’t mentioning at all, and then you seem to continually make dubious claims, one wonders whether you got the unleaded brownies at your aunt’s holiday party or not. The last time I checked, this thread had nothing to do with either Ron Paul’s foreign views or Newt’s progressive lapses. It would seem that if you’re supporting Ron Paul you should be, if you were intellectually consistent, especially hostile to Newt for channeling TR, the original RINO (well, almost–I would probably say that Horace Greely was the original RINO by running against Grant in 1872, but I digress). It seems you lack focus or an ability to see and respond to the point at hand.

  • ihateliberals

    I’m surprised this guy can even find his way to the debate sites with a memory lke that. I guess that is why he has a full time driver.

  • drsandykramer

    Substitute the year 1925 for 1993. Substitute 1943 for 2011. Subsitute a diary named “Mein Kampf” for a series of letters “The Daily Paul”, et.al. And substitute “Adolph Hitler” for “Ron Paul.” And I would find myself only SLIGHTLY more offended.

  • bgintn

    U.S. Rep. Ron Paul (R-Texas) was one of only four House Republicans to break rank from the party and request earmarks despite a Republican Conference earmark moratorium. Paul sent 41 earmark requests totaling $157,093,544 for the 2011 Fiscal Year. His largest single request was $19,500,000 for a naval training ship at the Texas Maritime Academy in Galveston, followed by a $18,126,000 to provide maintenance on the Matagorda Ship Channel.

    For Fiscal Year 2010, Paul requested 54 total earmarks, adding up to $398,460,640 in pork that the former presidential candidate sought to bring home to his district. These requests were made prior to the House Republican Conference?s voluntary ban on filing earmarks.

    Has been there long enough to know to put his earmarks in bills he knows well pass even with his no vote. Therefore the record shows no vote. His underhand having his cake and eating it too.

  • supergirl2911

    To Gingrich he had a makeover. Inside and out. Did anyone see santorum on fox or CNN last week? Spray tan horror!