The Ron Paul Newsletter and His Jeremiah Wright Moment

By: Erick Erickson (Diary) | December 22nd, 2011 at 04:45 AM |

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If you’ve been under a rock somewhere recently you may not know that Ron Paul published a bunch of crazy, racist newsletters in the late 80′s and early 90′s.

Ron Paul, ten years ago, took responsibility for the content, even admitted at one point that he had written some of them.

Today, Ron Paul claims he knew nothing about them even though they generated around a million dollars in income for him.

The newsletters were the “Ron Paul” newsletters and each was written in the first person as if from Ron Paul, without an author’s byline, conveying that the views expressed were Ron Paul’s.

No one doubts that someone other than Ron Paul wrote them, but they were written as if they were from Paul and he profited handsomely and at one point took responsibility for writing some of them himself.

One of the newsletters claimed that gays were going to donate blood en masse in hopes of infecting the American blood supply with AIDS.

Let’s presume Ron Paul did not write that.

But I know many Ron Paul supporters, including some in my church, who cast aspersions on Barack Obama for attending Reverend Jeremiah Wright’s church for 20 years. They don’t believe Barack Obama didn’t know Rev. Wright believed the CIA invented AIDS to kill black men. They will give Ron Paul a pass, but they will not give Barack Obama a pass.

Why?

I fail to see how Ron Paul’s eponymous newsletter written in the first person as if from Ron Paul claiming gays intended to infect other Americans with AIDS through compromising our blood supply is any different from Reverend Wright claiming the CIA invented AIDS to kill black men.

If you know all these things about Ron Paul, and know he was perfectly fine with Neo-Nazis raising money for his campaign in 2008, and know he was perfectly fine going on Iranian national television to claim Israel keeps concentration camps wherein it routinely kills Palestinians, and you still intend to vote for him, I don’t really see that the Republican tent needs to be big enough to accommodate you.

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http://edgeinducedcohesion.wordpress.com nathanalbright

…by the same judgment we judge others we will be judged ourselves. If we can paint Obama as guilty by association for his association with Jeremiah Wright, Ron Paul is guilty by the same standard as Obama. We cannot afford to have partisan standards of political morality.
davesinsanantonio

morals, or real conservative political principles, who just wants to amass tainted money and keep getting re-elected to keep it rolling in. That is why he is one of the biggest earmarkers in Congress, because he isn’t even a real fiscal conservative, just another politician who is totally willing to sell this country down the river as long as he gets to line his own pocket while doing it.
http://www.doctor-bob.biz rsklaroff

…noting his past/present anti-Semitism, racism, birtherism, etc.
daniel22

The responses from Paul supporters should flow like am avalanche. I never did care much for him but that is just me. What does bother me is that he will probably run independent and split the vote allowing O to waltz in on a “mandate”. Oh joy!!! (sarcasm real). So in advance to all Paul supporters thank-you.
romansdaughter

walking out of his CNN interview cause they kept asking him about those newsletters. So he admits to some of them back a few years and now he says he didn’t write any of them?? Wow, another Willard. How come the other candidates are not attacking him? They should as he is a loon.
georgehill

If Ron Paul wins the Republican nomination, then I will vote for him.

I consider him to be better than the Kenyan, socialist, Manchurian president we have today.
Scope

Paul would be every bit as bad and as dangerous as Barack Obama.
papabear

for saying that Luap Nor is a bat excrement crazy, racist, anti-Semite.

I tried to say it in a respectful way.
papabear

However, I am not so sure after studying Luap Nor’s positions. However, it doesn’t matter. If we nominated Luap Nor, the skeletons would erupt from the closet.

Obama would chew up Luap Nor like a rottweiler in a butcher shop.
http://www.hakubi.us/ Neil Stevens

I can’t find a single fault.
elayman

He admitted writing them, when it came up initially, defended them, and a staffer even said he was continuing to write them. So he is either a liar or the most incompetent candidate ever to condemn the activity and still be unable or unwilling to shut it down.

http://www.chron.com/CDA/archives/archive.mpl/1996_1343749/campaign-96-u-s-house-newsletter-excerpts-offer-am.html
http://www.doctor-bob.biz rsklaroff

?which emerged a decade ago?

?Ron Paul, ten years ago, took responsibility for the content, even admitted at one point that he had written some of them..?
Princeliberty

The racist items were only a few items out of all the newsletters.

Paul only denines reading those items that were racist. He did not read every newsletter. He did write some articles but not any of those racism items.

He was guilty of not properly overseeing the publication. Your making out like ever newsletter was a bunch hate filed propaganda. Most of the stuff was focused on gold and financial items.

He did not make a million dollars off the newsletter that a phony figure somebody posted up.

As for Wright – that was a Church Obama attended up until 2008 not 20 years before and Wright whole message was filed with racism and hate not just few words here and there that could easily be missed. The Church is based on marxism and racism.
Princeliberty

The racist items were only a few items out of all the newsletters.

Paul only denines reading those items that were racist. He did not read every newsletter. He did write some articles but not any of those racism items.

He was guilty of not properly overseeing the publication. Your making out like ever newsletter was a bunch hate filed propaganda. Most of the stuff was focused on gold and financial items.

He did not make a million dollars off the newsletter that a phony figure somebody posted up.

As for Wright – that was a Church Obama attended up until 2008 not 20 years before and Wright whole message was filed with racism and hate not just few words here and there that could easily be missed. The Church is based on marxism and racism.
kinghenry

the Newsletters. Has commented recently on the detail of how the Newsletters were made.

The Solcitation Letters they sent out were worse than the actual newslettrers too
dagnaytaggard

Red State is becoming RED in more ways than one. Another socialist site supporting anti-constitutional candidates. They repeat the talking points of the establishment. Now they are after Ron Paul. He is the most honest, ethical and knowledgeable candidate running. I would rather see ten Ron Paul in Washington than anyone of the other candidates runing. I?ll take my chances with a true constitutionalist than with these closet socialist Republicans. Both parties are the same and they are destroying out country. A vote for any one else is a vote against the U. S. Constitution. So for those that buy all of this crap, remember that their stragegy is to divide and conquer. These establishment hacks want only one of the NWO candidates to win and the hell with the country. RON PAUL 2012 BECAUSE YOU EITHER ACCEPT THE CONSTITUTION IN ITS ENTIRETY OR YOU ARE HELPING THE TRAITORS TO SHRED IT. You only have one choice to make, either Ron Paul or another socialist! You decide.
http://edgeinducedcohesion.wordpress.com nathanalbright

We’ve got a Paulturd spamming like crazy in here.
Bill S

You guys are slow learners.
http://908StraightSt.wordpress.com/ mbecker908

Thank you.
rogerfgay

How to Become a Paulbot
http://www.libertarian-examiner.com/2011/12/how-to-become-paulbot.html
http://908StraightSt.wordpress.com/ mbecker908

Prince, you’re no prince. You’re bigot-apologist idiot and an ignorant fool.
Scope

were all about “personal responsibility? Is Paul personally responsible to monitor what goes out under his name whether it’s a sentence of the entire piece?
Scope

The only thing you have to do to become a Paulbot is to have a lobotomy.
Money

And not hear it in Paul’s voice. I’m no expert, but the sentence structure and vocabulary are consistent with his.
izoneguy

He would be gone.
He should “resign” from the race and retire early.
No loss if he is gone from the house.
izoneguy

For having a brain in the first place. These folks are zombies.
http://www.ArticlesOfFreedom.us murtex

For all of the accusations made here about events from some 20 to 30 years ago, I would like some links to support these opinions made. This is the second opinion I have read in the past 24 hours relating to Ron Paul’s views on race but I have yet to read any documents that substantiate these claims.

Could this be a lame attempt to insult the American voter, again? Do these writers think that Americans can’t understand anything outside of infidelity, child molestation, or racism? I would hope that the bloggers would rise above the MSM and utilize real intellectual content, not just more-of-the-same. How about voting records, deals with foreign governments, arms deals under the table in exchange for drugs or drug money, etc.

Thank you.
its2011

Outlandish statements made by others (Obama) versus outlandish statements published in your name, with your consent-you let whomever use your name (Paul).
Leon H. Wolf

It’s been linked about a dozen times on the front page prior to this post. Ron Paul himself does not dispute that they were repugnant and racist. We know how Paultards work and we’re not going to try to outspam you in the comments section of every single blog. Toodles.
Common_Cents

Gee, I recall a few people loving Paul’s attack ads on other candidates, linking his ads here, giving him some cheers. Gotta love the political expediency

Paul should be discredited on every level, not just the level that suits someone’s agenda.
Leon H. Wolf

Paul’s is much worse. But that makes the point of the post even stronger.
Leon H. Wolf

They’ll set your teeth on edge
gekster

I read it three times, and still can’t grasp what you’re saying.
Care to elaborate.
gekster

Alot to be said for that third cup of coffee.
lineholder

Most of us have no illusions about the kind of mindset that Paul’s supporters have, yet no one considered that praise for him coming from Conservative websites might lend credibility to his campaign?

He’s not what this nation needs. Period. And it just isn’t wise to flame the fires of his support. At all. For any reason.
BigRedConservative

Ron Paul will not win in Iowa. He won’t win in New Hampshire, or South Carolina, or anywhere with a modicum of intelligence or integrity. He is and has been exposed to be a stone-cold racist and crackpot who will be more detrimental to America than even President Obama. So why are we bothering devoting so much column space to Paul? Considering that one column inch of screen space on Redstate is worth a mile of ranting on another website, there are better ways to use it.
http://www.RightFace.us dkolonia

Now that Ron Paul has jumped to the front in Iowa it is his turn to be attacked. So welcome to the club Ron! He can’t complain one bit based on the way he has attacked Newt lately. What goes around comes around.
ayrnieu

Because we don’t say “oh, that’s beyond the pale. Oh, and that is too. So they’re the same!” — after letting liberal sensitivities tell us where ‘the pale’ is. We also don’t say, “well, that offends me — oh, but this offends the professionally and cynically offended. So I guess we all have our faults.”, putting our judgments on the same level of those of people we despise.

Finally, we don’t say, “Crap, the guy we like least is doing well, so let’s attack him in the lamest possible way, because it resonates with people who despise us.”

*Phew*. I hope that was a thorough answer to your question.

Wright hated America in the clearest terms; Ron Paul, um, um, hinted that blacks can run fast, or, um, made a (true) disparaging remark about saint-of-the-left MLK, or, uh, this one time he called a civil rights activist a “half-educated victimologist”!

Here, say this: “he’s almost as racist as Ann Coulter.” To which the professionally offended will nod and smile and tell each other that they’ve finally pulled the wool over your eyes; to which, anyone who’s read her books will scratch their heads and ask, wait, why are you praising Paul now, aren’t you finally trying to defeat him?

“Almost as racist as Ann Coulter.” I like that. It’s actually true — when you define ‘racist’ as no more than “whatever an African Studies professor wouldn’t say”. Or whatever a half-educated victimologist wouldn’t say.

Meanwhile, by conceding immediately that the content of his newsletters is awful and racist and bigoted, etc.,Paul sabotages _all other Republicans_ in the same manner as you are when you agree with our enemies about their content. I guess his excuse will be “I was poorly advised; it was a campaign strategy.” What’s your excuse? Do you plan to win every battle (whilst never trying to win the war) with the left on whether each new ‘insensitivity’ is an example of racism?

Just say, Paul’s lame defense shows that even charges this lame will do him in at the end – so save your vote for another candidate.

(Maybe if you’d ever spent time on speaking to primary voters who’d consider Paul, instead of slandering them at every opportunity, you’d by now have any good ideas about how to tell them to vote for someone else.)

*Phew*, I hope the rest of that reply didn’t meander too much.
gekster

What position do you take on his position of letting Iran getting nukes.
You know, that country that wants the destruction of Isreal and the ‘Great Satan’ the US.
http://908StraightSt.wordpress.com/ mbecker908

Heh. How do you “slander” a raving lunatic who lacks the basic cognitave ability to think.

We don’t bother telling them to vote for somebody else because the deluded idiots by-and-large don’t vote. Hell, they couldn’t even coordinate a decent sit-in.

Ron Paul – and this has been noted repeatedly at Redstate since 2008 – is a racist bigot, a completely failed Congressman, and a danger in the area of foreign policy. Oh, and he’s not a Republican either. And, I suspect the Libertarians would be happy to disown him as well.

Go whine elsewhere.
geah

Wins I will stay home, O will win with out me
Glaucon

Wish I had saved the links. This Dondero guy was supposedly part of a group of people that wrote the content of the newsletters (maybe seven different people), and that Lew Rockwell and Murray Rothbard were the main brains behind the content. Ron Paul wrote some of the content too (probably about sound money, lol). They have also hinted (maybe Rockwell did), that the writer of some of the extreme articles was now dead. It seems that multiple people from that time have died, but the most relevant is Murray Rothbard. He’s like a messiah to this sub-culture, and Rockwell would probably never spill the beans on Rothbard. The tone of the racially offensive parts does seem like it would be written by Rothbard. If you are unlucky enough to attempt to listen through one of his lectures on YouTube, you will notice his attempts at sarcastic humor, if you don’t fall asleep first.

Found some links:

Dondero: “Neither Rockwell or Rothbard are/were “libertarians.” In his later yers Rothbard called himself a “Paleo” aligning with the conservative southern successionists.

Rockwell, today calls himself an Anarchist, and has distanced himself greatly from any part of the libertarian movement.”

http://www.libertarianrepublican.net/2011/02/1970s80s-libertarian-party-stalwart.html

“The newsletters’ obsession with blacks and gays was of a piece with a conscious political strategy adopted at that same time by Lew Rockwell and Murray Rothbard. After breaking with the Libertarian Party following the 1988 presidential election, Rockwell and Rothbard formed a schismatic “paleolibertarian” movement, which rejected what they saw as the social libertinism and leftist tendencies of mainstream libertarians. In 1990, they launched the Rothbard-Rockwell Report, where they crafted a plan they hoped would midwife a broad new “paleo” coalition.”

http://reason.com/archives/2008/01/16/who-wrote-ron-pauls-newsletter
ayrnieu

As it concerns Israel, it amounts to: treat Israel the same as Iran and Zimbabwe and Sudan and every other country that he thinks the US shouldn’t care about — which is all but one of them.

My position on this particular spot of his foreign policy went from apathy (people aren’t _born_ caring about Israel, you understand? They have to actually be argumentatively brought to this position?) to dislike. No, I don’t support it. A Republican candidate should at least allow that he prefers Derbyshire’s “zone of civilization” to the “zone of barbarism”. And I wouldn’t've be here complaining if these attacks on Paul had been on the order of “Let me tell you about how Democrats lost China to Communism. Hint: this is going to be about Israel.”
Glaucon

“I?m no expert, but the sentence structure and vocabulary are consistent with his.”

It also sounds like Murray Rothbard. If you were to try to listen to one of his lectures on YouTube (not recommended), you would notice his constant attempts at sarcastic humor. They will never say that it was Rothbard, as that segment of libertarian subculture worships Rothbard.
ayrnieu

See, I’m just a braindead deluded raving idiotic lunatic who won’t vote but will Occupy Wall Street. And Paul’s just a racist bigoted failure who (was there something potentially substantive here? Sorry, I tuned out for a bit) isn’t a Republican.

As none of that’s true, you press your own mute button when it comes to addressing people who wouldn’t be worth your time or ire if they fit your description (because they wouldn’t vote in that case. Get it?) I think it’s a simple enough point, so I won’t harp on about it.
gekster

Typical of an RP supporter.
Try to obfuscate the answer by appearring to answer, all the while not really answering.

I’ll try again.
What position do you take on his position of letting Iran getting nukes.
ihateliberals

Let’s say he didn’t write the news letters they stil had his name on them and he put the money in his pockets. This to me means he didn’t object to the content. I’m not sure Paul has any idea how to get to work everyday let alone run a country. I’m surprised that little green men haven’t visited him.
Common_Cents

Integrity is through than through, not part time, or when it serves your purpose at the time.

Either Ron Paul is a dangerous kook or he isnt. That goes for all of his tripe. Yet, it seems we have selective memories.

Now many here are blasting Paul but oh how they loved to pimp out Ron Paul’s attack ads against Gingrich.

Even Erick had a front page piece saying he hopes Ron Paul wins IA. Erick even featured Ron Paul’s negative ad against Gingrich. Several members here reposted the negative ads, only fueling RP’s exposure, campaign, and credibility.

Is Redstate now a pundit site? Or is it a grass roots conservatism site? There is a difference. I read the “About Redstate” link. It doesn’t seem appropriate to pimp out Ron Paul attack ads based on the mission of Red State.
ayrnieu

I’ll cut it down for you: “My position on (Paul’s stance on Israel) (is) dislike. No, I don?t support it.”

I said some other stuff there that should suggest A) why anyone else wouldn’t dislike it, and B) how you’d bring them around.

Shorter sentences: Do I want (any hostile power) to have nukes? ‘No’ to that. ‘Yes’ to bombing and cloak-and-dagger preventatives.
hobarticus

for him over Obama if he wins the nomination.

I would also vote for Godzilla in an election over Mothra.

These scenarios have a roughly equal chance of coming to pass.
Glaucon

The more you learn, the more complex it gets. So while looking around on Reason, it turns out that this Dondero guy was a disgruntled and fired ex-employee of Ron Paul. That adds a big grain of salt to Dondero’s testimony.

http://reason.com/blog/2007/05/22/ron-paul-on-9-11-and-eric-dond

“Reason: Your former staffer Eric Dondero is challenging you for your House seat in 2008.

Paul: He’s a disgruntled former employee who was fired.”
gekster

why do you support RP.

His foriegn policy would be detrimental to America, so why the support.
ayrnieu

What Democrats do is start a war and then say — wait, just to be safe, we had better fight this war _really badly_. See Vietnam, Korean, even the war in the Balkans, for prime examples. I don’t expect that from Paul – either parts of it. I also don’t expect him to directly aid our enemies while directly thwarting our friends – there’s my China example again. So of the two worst things a President could do wrt. FP, I think he’s OK.

Of Israel, any penny they stop getting from the government, they’ll get from Americans. Meanwhile, we’ll stop getting in their way at every opportunity.

Of the whole world, of our needing Okinawa to stage actions in the far east, Germany to stage actions in the Middle East, and all these other bases, I think… that a lot of it could be cut with perfect safety. We’ll still have the Navy to project power to out-of-the-way places, and it’s not like we can’t re-extend in the case of some specific threat. But while that’s being fiercely debated and given _bipartisan_ opposition, Paul and a Republican Congress can take a chainsaw to all these domestic concerns.

But really, FP arguments against Paul do sting a bit, and my support has broadened to ‘the Republican’. Although not just because of this issue: one particular falsehood that Paul supporters are very likely to hold – and that I don’t hold anymore – is that Republicans and Democrats basically are the same, that Bush = Obama. To defeat that, try gift-wrapping Ann Coulter.
retire05

have you ever even met him? Have you ever served as a pricinct leader for one of his state campaigns, or served on one of his boards, like the one for veterans, or really had an opportunity to discuss issues with him at length, and not just for a brief moment?

Do you remember all the things he promised when he first ran, like supporting term limits and saying that he would never seek pork because it was absurd for the federal government to take money away from taxpayers, only to give them less of it back by deciding how that money should be spent?

BECAUSE I HAVE.

Dr. Paul was my Congressman for years, until Texas went through redistricting. But by that time, almost everyone I knew who had once supported him, understood that the man was going off the deep end. He is a man who touts his military service (yes, he had to go through basic training) yet seems to think that our military is nothing more than a political pawn to be used by him to count coup against other opponents.

Yes, Paul is not only a blatant racist, but a liar. His peeps are putting out the spin that Eric Dondero, former aid to Paul who claims he was fully aware of what was in those letters and the letters were written by Lew Rockwell with Paul’s approval, is only saying this because Dondero is going to run against Paul in the next Congressional race. Now, since Paul has already announced that he is not going to seek re-election as a Congressman, it shows you how much the Paulbots are willing to lie to protect the foibles of their chosen one.

How many people realize that as far back as 1988, Timothy Leary, of the “drop acid and drop out” crowd, supported Ron Paul? Paul has been garnering the anti-drug law crowd for a long time. Now, while I admit that I think the war-on-drugs has been an abstract failure, I don’t agree with Paul’s philosphy of just letting drugs flow freely in the U.S. as a Constitutional right.

So……………………………………

I really want to know what association you have had with Paul over the past years that would cause you to support a man who can not only act certifiable at times, but can also be one of the most rude people you would ever have the displeasure to meet.
http://908StraightSt.wordpress.com/ mbecker908

any convienent yellow liquid. Not worth the effort.

Your support of Paul automatically brands you as you describe. Whether you vote is frankly, of no concern to me. And you’re right, my time is significantly more valuable than wasting it on a deluded racist bigot.
gavinvolaire

The author claims to know people at his church who say Rev. Wright is bad but Ron Paul isn’t. Many of them in fact. Therefore his question is why does every Ron Paul supporter on earth think like this?

Ha! Great point! Way to go, Dallas! Paul is a nutjob!

Uh wait, I don’t think these two positions correlate.

You Paulbot troll!!!!!!!!!!!! Nutbag!!!!!!!!!!!! Get a lobotomy!!!!!!!!!!!

LMAO. I’ve said it before, I’ll say it again: the crowd who hates Paul supporters are as bad as the crowd who hates Tebow supporters — so entertaining to watch them squirm.
http://908StraightSt.wordpress.com/ mbecker908

Dondero was posting at RS for a while in 08.
gavinvolaire

Anyone else see the irony in the fact that Ron Paul enjoys the highest minority support among all Republicans while the people most outraged by these newsletters (when do they become oldletters?) are those who support Paul’s GOP competition?

It’s quite clear this crowd isn’t offended by the newsletters — they’re offended by his conservatism.
gekster

First, we pull all of our troops from oversees and bring them home.

We vacate Asia and SE Asia.
We bring all the troops home from Europe.
We pull our troops out of Central America.

Now we have all our troops home, and not involved in the world at large.

First, China invades Tiawan, since there is no US deterent to them.
It’s theirs anyways, so who cares.
North Korea sees there is no backup to the Souths military and invades, sending hordes across the border after nukeing Seol.
China stands with NK because they are Chinas proxy.
Japan sits and wonders when they will be next, gives into any demands made by NK, as they don’t want another nuked city.

Chinas newly built up navy now controls the Pacific from Australia to Hawaii,
and demands raw materials from all of SE asia.
There is no one to stop them.
China now sets it’s sites on the US.

In Europe, Russia now has military control over Eastern Europe again, and is making demands on Germany.
After a brief war, Germany surrenders, and is now a proxy of Russia.
There was no one with enough resorces to help them fend off Russia.
Soon the communists control all of Europe, and start a war with England, who is now defensless, as there is no one to come to thier aid.
Russia now controls the whole of Europe and sets it’s sites on the US.

In the ME, Isreal is destroyed by the Iranians, after being nuked by them.
Iran now controls the ME from the Gibraltar Straights to India, and now gets into a war with China over resource rights to India.
Iran starts killing anyone who is not Muslim and will not convert.
They now set thier sites on the US.

In South America, Hugo Chaves starts gaining support from the other SA countries,
as they realise that RP will do nothing to Venezuala, as it is thier own internal matter, and none of our business.
After taking over two thirds of SA, Chaves starts a war with Panama, using Hitlers ‘this is our only territorial demand, until he has taken over half of Mexico.
The influx of refugees into the US to escape the new Hitler strains the resources of the US, who are now broker than ever, due to restricted world trade.

China now threatens war with the US.
Russia now threatens war with the US.
Iran has threatened war with the US even before RP was elected president.

Now tell me, what would RP do now, since he got his way, and the US doesn’t have any influene or control in the world.
retire05

You are simply repeating what Paul claims, to have garnered the highest support among minorities than any other GOP candidate.

But, alas, proof lies in facts, not baseless claims by someone whose public policy philosophy has degerated over the years.

This “crowd” (of one) would not support Ron Paul for dog catcher in my small town although I did support him in his early years as my Congressman. I have seen him turn into a 1938 isolationist who needs to be tied into a chair in Allen West’s office and given a history on Islamic aggression from Col. West.

The best news this Texan has gotten in years is that Ron Paul is going to retire when his Congressional term is up. Then he can go back to Lake Jackson, riding his bike and running red lights forcing drivers to dodge him.
ayrnieu

I won’t keep defending Paul’s foreign policy – and since I won’t, I also won’t leave with specific parting shots at your scenario. I’d be happy enough if the front page evidenced your criticisms rather than those of someone in the employ of the New York Times.
gekster

Which brings me back to ask, if you don’t like his foriegn policy, why do you support him.
I can only think you like his drug policy.
That would lend oneself to overlook alot of his misgivings.
gavinvolaire

Do you honestly believe I am “just repeating what Paul claims” about his minority support? Are you honestly unaware of the CNN poll that shows this to be true?

This is a fact. Your opinion that Paul’s public policy philosophy has degenerated over the years, however, is not.

But I get it — you hate Ron Paul and believe it is OK to smear him with opinions you call facts, false statements and insults.

Tebow and Ron Paul: the more they win, the more the haters hate.
gavinvolaire

I love this “danger in the area of foreign policy” line. Bill O’Reilly dismisses Paul for the same reason but then when he has another candidate on, he says if you get tough with Iran, it’ll start WW3 — nobody wants that!

Do you not realize we are on the brink of economic disaster? We cannot afford to save the world — we never could and that bill has come due. Our only chance to keep America safe is to stop the insanity of the Federal Reserve and only one candidate understands it.

Israel will keep while we get our own act together and guess what? The world didn’t explode when Obama took over and it won’t when Paul does.
http://www.hakubi.us/ Neil Stevens

Ron Paul is no more winning the GOP nomination than Barack Obama is.
gekster

Read my comment just above and then answer the question.
honeybadger

Are you sure you aren’t telling about what happened in the last game of Risk you played? Please tell me that this isn’t what you think would happen if RP was elected president. We all have disagreements with Paul on his foreign policy but to say something absurd like this would happen is a little over the line. I’m disappointed, this is the kind of insanity I would expect from Alex Jones.
gekster

If we do as RP says and pull all of our troops home, the scenario is very real.

Tell me, what do you think would happen if we bring ALL of our troops home from around the world.

Enlighten me.
acat

Without the U.S. to counterweight Russia/China, Pakistan and India will exchange nukes.

India will likely, by force of numbers, win the exchange, but won’t be in much of a position to argue with China.

I don’t see the Persian/Arab thing playing out quite the way you do – the Saudis may lose our troops (umm, aren’t we already based in Iraq?) but they’ve still got quite a bit of hardware… Israel’s still gone, though.

Other than that, and that the rump of NATO/Eurozone may finally gel when presented with a common enemy, I don’t disagree overmuch.

We’d be right back to the last time we tried a pure-Jacksonian international posture, i.e. right after WW I.

Mew
gekster

figure in the large amount of Muslims in India.
What side will they fall on.

Agreed on the WWI thing.
We went and helped defeat the Germans, and left lock stock and barral, only to go back full force 20 some odd years later.
I think that’s one of the reasons we have bases in Europe now.
France and Germany just can’t play nice together.
http://realpolitik-kaiser.blogspot.com/ Patrick

is not the newsletters, not his foreign policy, not the anti-semitic connections, and not his and his followers’ singular insistence that his conservatism, so defined, is the only true conservatism (while anyone who disagrees is a dirty, big government neocon with special connections to the military-industrial complex/Israel/anti-muslim sentiment/The Fed).

What most irks me is his claim to special fiscal conservative purity by voting against every bill ever put to vote — then repeatedly EARMARKING THOSE VERY SAME BILLS for his own district. Oh, I guess it’s “conservative” to pretend to take a brave stand for fiscal responsibility, then pillage America’s tax dollars furiously for your own district, Paul! So long as you’re not politically endangered and come out looking like a saint!

That’s not conservative, that’s not responsible, and that’s not brave.

That’s greed plus self-righteousness, and that’s something I despise in Dr. Paul.
mikeymike143

Ron Paul, a career politican with a well deserved reputation for anti semitism, is currently drawing fire for making loads of money from racist newsletters that bear his name. On top of the recent revelations that the newsletters contained some really nasty comments about blacks, come brand new revelations that this piece of garbage also attacked Jews and gays in print.

Let?s start at the top. We all know the Democrats are going to play the ?race card? against whoever the Republicans nominate. Count on it. Now imagine this scenario, heading our ticket is a candidate whose newsletter said this about Ronald Reagan(for giving Martin Luther a holiday), ?We can thank him for our annual Hate Whitey day?. Or how about this little nugget of wisdom, ?Opinion polls consistently show that only about 5 percent of blacks have sensible political opinions.? You might as well hand Nancy Pelosi her gavel back, because the stench from being identified with this lowlife is going to cause the Republicans to get decimated in every congressional race, as well as get Obama reelected.

And it only goes downhill from there for ?Racist Ron?. Everyone knows Paul published racist newsletters under his name for profit. But did anyone ever wonder about the direct mailer ads that went out for these newsletters, and to see who they were marketed to. Well guess what REUTERS managed to get ahold of? The ads(which were signed by Paul) talk about the ?federal homosexual cover up of AIDS?. Of course that fits right in with Paul?s newsletter?s disgusting comment that people with AIDS ?enjoy the attention and pity that comes with being sick.? And of course at the bottom of the ad was a solicitation for $99.00 to subscribe to this newsletter, which would also give you Paul?s ?unlisted phone number? so you can recieve fast breaking news. I wonder how many suckers sent him 99 bucks. LOL

And no column on this sleazebag would be complete without a discussion of Ron?s anti-semitic, neo-nazi pals. Did you know that this newsletter was listed as recommended reading in the directory of the Heritage Front, a neo-nazi hate group based in Canada? Or that his columns are repeatedly featured in the American Free Press, which is published by Hilter admirer and Holocaust denier Willis Carto. Ron Paul certainly knows his base, which is why he recently criticized conservative tea partier Michele Bachmann for hating muslims?. but yet has never condemned the anti semitic behavor of his dirtbag paulbot followers.

Paul is also known for his friendship with white supremist Don Black. In fact, the former KKK leader and founder of white hate group Stormfront donated 500 dollars to Paul?s campaign in 2008. And Paul refused to return the money despite the pleas of Jewish conservatives. Is it any wonder that conservative David Horowitz of the Freedom Center wrote an article in February titled ?Ron Paul Is A Vicious Anti-Semite and Anti-American and Conservatives Need To Wash Their Hands of Him?. Or that the Republican Jewish Coailition banned Paul from their recent debate because of his anti Israel agenda. In fact, they said inviting Paul to speak would be like ?inviting Obama to speak?. Ouch. Maybe Paul?s wacky opinion that condemning the Hamas rocket attacks on Israeli women and children would cause violence didn?t sit too well with them.

And the ?guilt by association? will be even worse for the tea party. I recently blogged an article here at REDSTATE showing that 93% of tea party members do NOT want Ron Paul as president. And also showing that Tea Party Fort Lauderdale, America?s longest running tea party, overwhelmingly voted nutjob Paul as the Republican candidate they LEAST wanted to see win the presidency.

http://www.redstate.com/mikeymike143/2011/12/12/new-gallup-poll-nutjob-ron-paul-only-gets-7-of-the-tea-party-vote/

But despite Paul?s rejection by the tea party, the press is undoubtedly going to try to tie this loon into the tea party in order to discredit it. The liberal press has wrongly and unfairly been trying to paint the tea party as racist. To no avail. Until now. And then they hit the ?mother lode?. A genuine racist with a documented paper trail of inappropriate comments and a busload of looney racist and anti semitic supporters. Hopefully tea party leaders will quickly denounce and ostracise this nutcase because real tea partiers are completely colorblind and would NEVER EVER condone these type of beliefs and comments. And this issue is NOT going away.

And of course his followers are the dirtbags of society. Conspiracy loons, racists, anti war leftists, and anti semites. That is why most sites, including this one, have policies banning paulbots. I say they are a cancer to the both the tea party and the Republican party, and that we should treat them like lepers and shun them.

http://www.redstate.com/mikeymike143/2011/12/23/there-is-no-way-the-republicans-can-nominate-racist-ron-paul-to-run-against-this-countries-first-black-president-not-with-those-newsletters-out-there/
http://edgeinducedcohesion.wordpress.com nathanalbright

…you’d better get into “denounce Ron Paul mode,” certainly. Some people won’t care about the truth because they will be looking to slander the Tea Party, but for those that genuinely want to know the truth, there need to be people willing to speak up, with plenty of facts and evidence, as you have here.
mikeymike143

and can you please post those same words of wisdom on my diary? i am a conservative republican tea partier and i will be shouting your advice from the rooftops
http://edgeinducedcohesion.wordpress.com nathanalbright

n/t
Dave_A

It’s not ‘insanity’ to adopt the monetary policy that 99% of Americans have voted for with their wallets….

Ron’s policy,OTOH, would actually cause such a catastrophe….

His ‘sound money’ isn’t ‘sound’ for the American economy, or any developed nation… Sure, it may sound good in theory, but when you take a look at how Americans live financially (completely leaving the government out of it) you see that it would RUIN EVERYONE.

Ron’s monetary policy would wipe out the wealth that most Americans store in their possessions & investments, to reward a select few who hoard cash.

Far from saving us, it would destroy us.
http://edgeinducedcohesion.wordpress.com nathanalbright

That’s a great way to put it hobarticus.
clowngirl

Ron Paul is saying he didn’t write the newsletter (which came out under his name with no byline which would imply that he wrote it) didn’t edit it or an any way approve its content before it went out, and only occasionally even read it.

I don’t believe him but, just for the sake of argument, let’s assume he’s telling the truth.

Ron Paul — who bills himself as something of a purist — lent his name to a newsletter without ever checking the content? If that were actually true it would be profoundly irresponsible, dishonest and show Dr. Paul to be a man who is little concerned with principle or promoting sound political philosophy if he sees a chance to make a quick buck ( or millions of them)

Secondly, if Ron Paul couldn’t manage to monitor the content of a newsletter at times when he wasn’t even holding elected office — how could he possibly manage to be President?

Not to imply that it wasn’t already abundantly clear that Ron Paul isn’t up to being President — that is obvious.
clowngirl

I wonder if Boehner doesn’t have a responsibility to boot him from the caucus.
clowngirl

n/t
Leon H. Wolf

that we are not a hive mind here. My name is not, in fact, Erick. So I’m not really sure what you were trying to accomplish with this comment.
deVere

http://rightwingnews.com/election-2012/statement-from-fmr-ron-paul-staffer-on-newsletters-anti-semitism/

Etreme isolationist and strongly anti-Israel, but not a racist bigot: Ron Paul should definitely not become President, but perhaps there’s some useful domestic-policy role for him to play.

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