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In Conclusion

I have made known my thoughts and objections to the various candidates in the field. I have come to accept that the ones I think would be best are the ones running the most perplexing campaigns. I think we will wind up with Willard Mitt Romney as the nominee.

I see a path to victory for Rick Perry. I don’t see him taking it.

I see a path to victory for Newt Gingrich. I see him taking it so zealously that it winds up hurting him.

I see a path to victory for Jon Huntsman if he makes it out of New Hampshire with a respectable showing and I’d rather him than Romney or Santorum.

Ironically, I do not see a path to victory for Rick Santorum. He made the Illinois ballot, but without a full slate of delegates, and I think he doesn’t have the ability to build out as it took so long for him to rise.

I see the clearest path for Mitt Romney and barring him underperforming in New Hampshire, I suspect he could sweep the races.

I am as excited as a fly flying through a frog filled swamp.

But ultimately there is this — Barack Obama is worse than even Jimmy Carter in that Obama, in addition to being an economic menace, peddles a brand of liberal social politics that even Jimmy Carter dared not peddle. Should he win re-election, Barack Obama might have the opportunity to fill more seats on the Supreme Court including, potentially, Antonin Scalia’s and Anthony Kennedy’s seats.

We cannot let that happen.

The regulatory regime an Obama second term would unleash, no longer restrained by the fear of electoral defeat, would be economically destructive to the free market and the middle class.

Any and all of the Republican candidates would be better than Barack Obama. We have an obligation to support the nominee whoever it may be.

I just hope the voters choose wisely.

As for me, in focusing on Campaign 2012 for President, I have neglected the fight against SOPA, the fight to election conservatives to the House and Senate, and the on going battles at the state level. It’s time to refocus a bit on those and let this primary season where good friends are at each others throats over the nominees sort the season out. I will have to necessarily chime in on Presidential politics, but don’t want it to be as all consuming as it has been.

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  • davesinsanantonio

    we must win the down-ballot contests. All the way down the ballot.

    Then, we must hold the feet of all office holders to the fire. We cannot ever again become complacent, because this enemy never sleeps.

    This is a fight for the survival of our country and our way of life. And, whoever does not believe that is aiding and abetting the enemy.

  • macbookben

    …Romney is the next CinC, make sure he has a conservative (not just Republican) majority in Congress. A RINO coalition with Romney in charge absolutely will not get us out of Obama’s mess.

  • 6t9boss

    So in other words we have a President worse than Carter and an apparent nominee no better than Carter. So how does anything really change? Romney won’t stop ObamaCare and can’t defend against it. I think the GOP has revealed itself to be nothing less than Democrate-lite and that the smoke screen of fearmongering boils down to voting for the letter “R” instead of “D”.
    As to Judges, the current crop of SCJ’s have proved their willingness to take private property rights away, look at overseas laws for guidance and basically have 5 people making decisions. Not much inspriation there now.
    Even with the possible changes in the SCJ there is no will power in Congress to stop this maddness.
    Tell me…..How voting for a Liberal Republican THAT VOTES WITH DEMOCRATES changes anything.
    I am not voting for the letter “R” anymore.

  • renl57

    …go read some of the things that William O. Douglas and Thurgood Marshall said and wrote. Because I’m convinced they exemplify the kind of Supreme Court that Obama would like to see.

    The hamstringing of law enforcement caused by them and their ilk, caused a crime wave and turned America’s greatest cities into “pestholes comparable to Calcutta,” as reporter Theodore H. White said back then.

    And their sympathies for the welfare state at all costs are exactly the opposite of what is needed today.

  • hwgood

    The odds are appallingly high that the next person to take the oath of office for the Oval Office will not be conservative. That being the case, it is vital that the conservative voters express their voice for the rest of the slate.
    If that happens enough times we might finally get rid of the RINO National Committee and get a conservative nominated for President again.

  • renl57

    Mitt Romney is not just like Carter, as you claim. I suppose if you’re far enough to the right, then just about any center-right Republican is “just like Carter.” But if you’re more objective about it, you will notice some real differences:

    1. Romney rejects American decline, Carter thought America’s decline was inevitable.

    2. Romney will defend America’s vital interests in the world; Carter believed in unilateral American concessions.

    3. Romney’s preference is for market-oriented solutions to problems. Even his much-hated RomneyCare relied primarily on private insurance for everyone except those who were uninsurable due to extreme poverty or pre-existing medical conditions. Romney wouldn’t use the power of government to micromanage America’s energy needs the way Carter did.

    In response to the Obama Administration’s incessant attempts to drag America to the left, we conservatives reminded him that America was and still is a center-right country.

    But it’s NOT a right-wing country. America is not Singapore or Chile under Pinochet.

    Frankly, Romney is closer to the political center of gravity of this nation than Erick Erickson is.

  • elayman

    I see a path to victory for Jon Huntsman if he makes it out of New Hampshire with a respectable showing and I?d rather him than Romney or Santorum..

    So lessons learned. Examine the governing record before trashing to high heaven our candidate best positioned to challenge Obama AND most committed to the conservative cause, which would be Jon Huntsman. What a concept !

  • circlegranch

    what he faces after his ‘inevitable’ inauguration. There’s alot of flies in this frog swamp and for 5 years, he never broke above 25%. As his numbers rise now, it won’t because people are learning to love him, its because they are settling. America has been told over and over to settle, so dutiful sheep we are, we’re settling.

    The vetting has begun. It will intesify to historic proportions before November. It’s not going to get easier and to the naive Romney supporters that are saying, “Stop bringing up Bain and his religion and his mega wealth–you’re only giving ammo to the Left!” Get real. The Left has had an attack portfolio laying in wait on Mitt Romney long before he made his formal announcement to run this time. As he becomes under more pressure, we’ve seen him get rattled. He’ll start saying bloopers such as yesterday’s, “I like to fire people”. The thing about politics, especially the presidential race is, anything and everything you say can and will be used against you in the court of public opinion. Romney, thus far, hasn’t had a brain freeze or created a silly campaign byline such as “Nobody gets off the Cain Train”. Gov. Romney has had an absolute walk in the park thus far on his way to his ruling class-blessed coronation. The ride is about to get bumpy and his fans are about to take their turn in the barrel over their candidate as have so many going before them.

    If Obama is re-elected, it will be a sad commentary on the Republican Party and their ineptitude and refusal to listen to the will of the people they so desperately seek fundiing from. In this election season, the opportunity was there for the taking to FINALLY recruit and stand behind a true conservative. Not a wanna-be such as Santorum or Romney, both of which are spending their time and treasure running away from their voting pasts. This was to be the year for conservatism to rise and defeat and beat back progressives for another 50 years. The 2010 elections were the clarion call and conservatives responded. We defeated not just Democrats in record numbers, we beat ruling class Republicans, too. It has been the Republicans that have turned their swords on the conservatives in retaliation. We had the momentum but we allowed the elite to squander it again.

    Rush talked yesterday about the reported rise of the Independents in this country. On its face, we assume that’s Democrats disgruntled with their party going too far Left so they are coming to the middle, asking the Right to come meet them. I disagree. If the number of independents is on the rise, I suggest the movement is from the Republican Party and they are not moving to the middle. They are leaving the GOP and standing alone, waiting for their numbers to be great enough to recreate the Revolution of 2010.

  • tngal

    I’m not sure there’s a lot of enthusiasm for this downballot. It won’t be another 2010, where we really pushed hard and supported what we thought were conservatives.

  • mbrat42

    6t9boss, I get how you feel. I am new to this site and new to the primary process. I have never voted in a primary and planned on making this year my first time. I have now realized that since I don’t live in Iowa or New Hampshire, my vote means nothing in a primary. Iowa and New Hampshire, along with the “establishment” and media, will choose who I get to vote for. This to me is heartbreaking.

    I truly feel that Romney is the wrong person. I am also afraid that he will lose. Obama made the country angry with Obamacare, Romney can’t fight him on that with a straight face. Obama has been working hard to stir up class warfare. Romney is exactly the type of guy that will cause Obama’s base to become fired up big time.

    People say that Perry performs poorly in debates, but in my opinion, Romney does not do well at all when challenged. He gets agitated and starts the I’m talking, it’s my turn, I’m still talking, all while looking at the moderator to step in. It reminds me of a kid saying Mommy Mommy make him stop. Wait until Obama gets under his skin.

    If Romney ends up with the nomination I will probably vote for him. Not because I think he’s right for the job, but because he would at least slow down the pace of decline. He will not solve our problems, he will take things back to before Obama and that still wasn’t good.

    Perry is my guy and I will continue to support and cheer him on. He has accomplished in TX what we want for the nation. Too many people gave up on him at the start because he’s not a pretty talker, well we’ve got one of those. Now, because Perry was written off so quickly, we have Romney. If and when he is no longer in the race, I will switch to Gingrich. Personally, I hope they both stay in through Super Tuesday. And, frankly, the whole process has made me sick to my stomach.

  • burke

    Only one state has voted. It’s a little early to give up the ghost, isn’t it? NH, basically a home state for Romney, will be a clear Romney victory. But Santorum or Gingrich could win South Carolina. Gingrich could win Florida. Either win could fatally compromise the Romney’s inevitability cloak, his strongest line of defense, and allow for another candidate to gain support after Florida. Even if Romney wins both states, unless he wins both by 10+ points, that’s no reason to stop the discussion.

    Honestly, it’s media talk like this post that will fuel an early victory for Romney, not voter sentiment. If the news tells the average voter (who is engaged but not a compulsive follower of political news) that the race is over, she will believe it. But Romney’s not doing well enough at the polls to justify his mantle as effectively the nominee. No, I don’t think a win is a win, that any lead in the poll is a lead when it leads to this level of deference. It’s disappointing when voters are encouraged to fall in line rather than vote with their conscience. There will be plenty of time to focus on Obama, so that’s no reason to end the race here. The media narrative about disaffected Hillary voters failing to come out or supporting McCain turned out to be of no moment. Also, making folks feel like a candidate was forced on them is no way to energize the base. Make no mistake: this election is a base turnout election.

  • tntech

    Once Newt finishes his kamikaze run on the Romney campaign the field should narrow and Romney’s lead may dwindle. There is still time to thwart the evil plans on the RNC establishment. Perry or Huntsman are fine and not “hold your nose” candidates. What we really should be doing now is putting the pressure on Jim DeMint to endorse a non Romney candidate to counter the endorsement by my now least favorite governor in SC. No matter what it’s all about November and I would rather whine about Romney for the next four years than risk the loss of democracy.

  • gmscan

    … we will need to keep on top of him. We can’t be like we were during Bush — giving him a pass because he’s our guy. That means a much stronger conservative presence in Congress, and especially the Senate. No more Bill Frists.

  • circlegranch

    and one wonders why he continues to hold his fire. Conservative Republican politicians have beat the drum since Obama took office about how we have to stand up for conservatism! America, we must fight or we lose the country as we know it! Today, when the choice is very clear, when there is a path and a candidate to keep the Revolution of 2010 on course, the leaders of the conservative movement are quiet. Crickets.

    What are they waiting for? What about the emergency of our nation in decline and there being no time to waste? Of the weak-kneed in the GOP, DeMint was always to be counted upon to stand up and speak the truth. We know Lindsey Graham will endorse Romney once NH is over, but who is DeMint waiting on?

  • 6t9boss

    mbrat42, I know what you mean about Romeny being the wrong guy.
    How do you “claim” to be conservative when you voted in socialized healthcare in your own state, then send your advsiors up the whitehouse to write Nationalized Socialist Healthcare, make statements about believeing in Globalwarming ( translation: I will do nothing to stop the EPA) and comes from one of the most Liberal states in the nation. Just don’t see it and I am tired of watching the “leftists” in the GOP tear down Consevatives and then have the gall to ask us to vote for Milktoast Romney.

  • http://www.planettron.com NickDeringer

    Erick is having the “you better sit down, kids” speech with us. It’s come to this: Mitt Romney and 2 Fox News contributors. There’s not a Reagan in sight. It’s time to call your grief councilors or stock up on hard liquor or just crack open the Bible and read Psalm 91. Whatever it is you do to cope, now is the time.

    Romney will be the nominee unless Newt slips something in his coffee. We have to rally around him and find unity in knowing that we must remove One-bama from office. America will not survive 8 years of Barack of a Thousand Faces.

  • Samsara

    nt

  • sigmasix

    What I take from all of this is that the Republican establishment appears for the entire world to be as deeply distrustful of the average voter/citizen as any Liberal DemocRAT. That is in fact one of the Republicans favorite accusations against the DemocRATs, that they are contemptuous and distrustful of the average citizen, and it is a true one. And yet here we have the Republican Party machinery ? Not to mention their mouthpieces in the media ? Going all-out to rig the nomination process so the candidate preferred by the party machine ? The supposed ?electable? candidate ? wins no matter what the voters might want by virtue of what a candidate might actually have to say. Sad.

    As to what the people themselves might want, you can get a pretty good inference of what that is by looking carefully at the rise of Gingrich during the debate process. He rose in the polls by virtue of WHAT HE ACTUALLY SAID and not just some carefully packaged, poll tested blather designed to appeal to a Lib-inculcated population as well as conservatives. Effectively speaking out both sides of one?s mouth takes more than effort, it takes committee planning and lots of poll testing. That?s a job for the Republican machine. A political party that wasn?t fearful of LISTENING to the voters would allow THEM to decide who they want without all of the chicanery, machinations and push-polling by the RINOmedia.

    I like Mitt as a person; In fact I pretty much like all of the Republican candidates running. I do not, however, trust him to have THE NATIONS best interests at heart or to do what he says he will once elected. I expect wimpy, half-hearted attempts at implementing conservative policies but he will, at the end of the day, sign off on the newest Liberal component that takes away more of our freedom and more of my money.

    Mr. Romney, this doesn?t really help matters:

    ?Republican presidential contender Mitt Romney says that he will be able work with Democrats as president –” This comes two days, maybe three days after McCain endorses Romney. Romney goes out and says in the Sunday debate, pointing to his time as governor of Massachusetts as proof that he will be able to compromise with people in the other party. Were the 2010 midterm elections about compromising with the other party? Where does this come from? How do you compromise with western European socialism?

  • spolson

    I wish I shared you optimism. I think Romney will be far to weak to pull off a recovery. It can’t be done fast enough without a true conservative to right this nation. Obama’s hell must be reversed and a new path of clear pro capitalism laid out for the wheels of this nation to roll again. A compromising, try to please everyone, politician will merely slow down the lefts race to poverty and leave us open to a defeat in 2016 and Hilary or some other idiot leftist. This is not like other elections.

    Our lives depend on this country turning around. Obama has systematically dismantled this countries assets and left us open for
    invasion by aliens and subversives. People who are here not to be Americans but to change the USA into their own form of life. The one they felt they needed to flee. The left is not going to lay down after the election and admit they were wrong. They are going to do everything possible to continue their path of Unionized thuggery, regulation stifling and “Occupy” Chaos. Every compromise is a victory for them.

    Obama has no clue about how to run this country or anything else for that matter but he does know how to speak and sound important and live like he is important and spend like he is important and he doesn’t let things like the constitution or rule of law or outraged public sway him. Romney does the opposite. He changes his position to fit the electability he wants. We won’t move one step in the right direction even with both houses of government behind him. We have been there before.

  • mine

    Saw him on Hannity last night. The look on his face reminded me of the snarl on Bilbo Baggins face when he tried to take the ring from Froddo in LOTR. I was amazed to listen to him. He is one nasty puppy. Everything he said about Romney should have been thrown back at him. I’ve been on his mailing list for about a dozen years and can never get through the pompous boring ramblings. I’m at the stage I can’t stand him. And who is this casino jock funding him? Just can’t see casino money being friendly to conservatives. So why is the newt so friendly to casino money. Hmmm. Pack it in Bilbo Baggins.

  • jimmyg

    http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-503544_162-57355532-503544/poll-58-of-republicans-want-more-presidential-choices/

    snip

    The survey finds that 58 percent of Republican primary voters want more presidential choices, while just 37 percent say they are satisfied with the current field. The percentage of Republican primary voters that wants more choices has increased 12 percentage points since October.

    snip

    Herein lies the problem. The field of candidates are flawed and a majority of Republican primary voters do not like the choices presented to them.

    We are still looking for Superman.

  • aj_0000

    He would still lose in November. That is the reality that’s sinking in. He is an exceptionally weak candidate. If the Republican Party was sane, it would not have all but destroyed Newt Gingrich, the one man in the field who has actually brought massive electoral success to the party. Nominating Romney is an act of cowardice, which will blow up in the faces of those who propped him up and pushed him through.

  • aj_0000

    Is simply not in contention. The non-Romney vote is now split evenly between Gingrich and Santorum, with Perry lagging far behind. Santorum does not have the campaign infrastructure or cash to make it through. The only remote chance of stopping Romney is if Gingrich manages to pull out a win in SC, and then Perry and Santorum drop out before FL.

  • texasroots

    his negativism against Perry because Perry did not follow Erick’s orders to fire his staff. There he goes, again and again, like the rest of the media, telling us who the nominee will be. Thanks to you, too, the president will be re-elected.

  • annie54

    and will continue to be so. Last night on FOX Business, discussion was that Perry is the only one who can defeat Romney. Not FOX with the blondes, Morris, Rove, O’Reilly, Hannity, Greta, etc etc. FOX Business! The Judge, Steve Moore, etc.

    I believe it.

    Tebow pulled it out. Perry can, also.

  • jgge

    Obama damage would be very limited. The man could not even stop the Bush tax cut extension even when he had majority in Congress. Obama is a socialist but fortunately he is an incompetent one and is not able to achieve most of what he wants. FDR and LBJ were far more damaging than Obama in term of applying the socialist agenda. We as a nation has survived much worse than Obama, a civil war, a great depression, two world wars, etc… and not only we survived but we have become the most prosperous and most powerful nation in history and we will continue to do so for a very long time and Obama is not going to change that.
    Stop the doom and gloom, we are Americans.

  • http://minorcan-maven.blogspot.com/ minorcanmaven

    X 2!!

  • thosjefferson

    Do you really want to watch Newt and Obama compete for the title of the greatest anti-capitalist in the history of American Presidential campaigns?

    Newt wants to debate Obama, but what?s he going to say? Newt has become the face of anti-capitalism in a way Obama never could.

    It’s time for EE to stand up for capitalism and freedom and reject Newt. Time to recognize that the sooner Republicans unite behind Romney, the stronger we’ll be against Obama and Democrats in Congress and at th e state level.

  • nancysabet

    CHECK OUT THIS VIDEO WE NEED ONE ML. HITS FOR GOV. PERRY
    His boots were made for walkin’ – all the way to the White House by way of Boot Leather Express
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f1ikgAzjhd8&feature=youtu.be

  • red_oakster

    Every one of these candidates with the exception of Paul could beat Obama in a general election.

    Also, Huntsman would be a watery, moderate while continuing the Obama foreign policy and very bad on Israel. No thanks.

    Finally, I think Erick is underestimating Santorum. Santorum and Newt are the only two at this point who can become the single alternative to Romney. It may well be Newt, but it equally could be Santorum, especially if the social conservative leaders choose him.

  • nancysabet

    CHECK OUT THIS VIDEO WE NEED ONE ML. HITS FOR GOV. PERRY
    His boots were made for walkin? ? all the way to the White House by way of Boot Leather Express

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f1ikgAzjhd8&feature=youtu.be

  • jgge

    and CEO of Bain Capital a company whose business to sell and buy other companies and in the process many have lost their jobs is not going to defeat Obama in this environment where a majority of voters hate Wall Street. It is a fact of life despite our strong believe in free market economy, bankers and financial folks are not ******* popular in America and they are not going to be elected for President.

  • jaykali

    Notice how he isn’t throwing up his hands and saying ‘well I guess I’ll just stay home and complain’.

    Look the field was weak this time around, it just was. This is a multiple choice test, unfortunately you don’t get your Chris Christies, Marco Rubios, Paul Ryans, etc. to choose from. So you have to choose the best that’s out there that can win.

    Perry is the perfect example of someone who should have been a really good candidate but wasn’t. He just wasn’t able to hold it together. He came on the scene so strong, I wonder if he would have done better if he got in early and made some mistakes early on.

  • jbonham76

    support Romney, at least more than any other candidate in the field:

    http://www.gallup.com/poll/151961/Majority-Conservatives-Romney-Acceptable.aspx

  • annie54

    there will be nothing left in 2016. It’s now or never.

  • jimmyg

    I was a critic of Perry’s staff in September. It was obvious that the Texas staff was not prepared for a national campaign, and approached the primaries as though it was a run for Governor of Texas.

    By the time reinforcements were brought in, the die had been cast. The internal polling must have been so bad that an anonymous staffer talked to Politico hoping to save his career and not be tarred with results of the failed Perry campaign.

    Perry’s campaign continues to implode. Erick mentioned that Santorum was not able to put a full slate of candidates on the ballot in Illinois. Santorum placed 41 delegates on the ballot out of 54. Perry was only able to put 1 delegate on the Illinois Ballot out of 54.
    http://articles.chicagotribune.com/2012-01-07/news/ct-met-illinois-presidential-filing-20120107_1_primary-ballot-delegate-candidate-santorum-campaign

    Perry had the record and the money. He stumbled in the debates which did not help, but that is only part of the story. His staff failed him badly.

  • annie54

    n/t

  • tercel

    I?m as capitalist as most people. I would love to make 25% return on my investments. But it strikes me that it is morally reprehensible to raid a company for the profit of a few. Try to turn it around and if that works and you make a nice profit?great! But to be the buzzard or the treasure hunter from the shipwreck, while it is ?good for society as a whole? it is not what I want held up as the ideal. Its is why society never invites the mortician over for dinner. Morticians hang out with other morticians.

    I just do not believe that the average American is going to understand nor appreciate creative destruction. Remember, most people are on the destruction end of the equation and have never had the opportunity to reap the profits.

    I completely understand the concept and how it works but I just can?t cheerlead for a bunch of people who make so much money (25% plus return on capital) while causing so much personal misery for others.

  • http://www.doctor-bob.biz rsklaroff

    …BUT, “pass the ammunition!”

    If Mitt doesn’t meet “expectations,” the perception that this is a wide-open race can become dominant…yielding time for Perry to arise again.

  • bucksnort

    My support has been with Perry since day one. He is the only one that has the guts to tell it like it is. People like to keep their heads in the sand and believe the balony spewing from the lips of the other candidates. Wake up conservatives. Rick Perry can get this economy going again. He just got a grade of “A” on his plan. His debating skills are very good since his oops moment. Poor guy is human. Look at his record. Look at his background. Look at his plan for America!

  • babykaboomer

    We’re on Santa’s lap and he’s asking “And who do you want for President, little boy?” Our minds go blank as Santa prompts: “How about a nice Mitt Romney?” We nod our heads in numb agreement as Santa says “Alright, get them out of here”, and his helper puts us on the downward slide to our oblivion. Now, like Ralphie, I think we can still catch ourselves at the precipice, crawl back up and demand what we really want. Maybe a poorer than expected showing in NH will be the exploitable chink that will set a different table this time around in SC and FL. Whatever the outcome, I will still believe in my heart of hearts that America has always chosen for president the right person, the necessary person for the times.

  • azaeroprof

    Erick, you are right. Willard Mitt Romney will likely be the nominee. I believe this will portend a disaster for the GOP in November.

    As long as nothing changes, Gingrich, Santorum, and to a lesser extent Perry and Huntsman will continue to split the non-Romney vote until they start to drop out, one-by-one, which will happen too late. By then, Romney will have it sewn up.

    I see one and only one hope. Gingrich, Santorum, Perry and Huntsman need to lock themselves in a room, IMMEDIATELY after New Hampshire, and decide which one of the four all could support. They should then have a joint press conference, announce they are dropping out, and urge their supporters to back the concensus candidate. As much as I would like that to be Newt, and as much as many here would like it to be Perry, I must admit that the most viable candidate, especially in the general election, is Jon Huntsman. As much as I have disliked him and his campaign during the process so far, I am willing, and enthusiastic, to back him in order to prevent Romney from getting the nomination.

    Do I think there is any chance this will happen? Ha. Given the egos involved, I would say it is about as likely as Obama admitting that he is a closet Goldwater Conservative who is trying to get reelected so he can implement a libertarian conservative agenda.

    So sad.

  • kindredsoul

    The plain fact is that the talking heads on Fox, CNN, MSNBC, etc., are key players in driving the narrative. Erick’s point is not that he wants to dictate to the Perry campaign. His point is that you have to show some strategic understanding of the perception about you and that you are going to take some publicly visible, concrete steps to shake things up. Firing his staff was exactly what Perry needed to do. It would have changed the narrative to “he’s serious about winning and he’s shaking it up” to be followed by a news cycle or two about the new team — i.e., positive attention/press spin. By doing nothing of that sort, he’s left conservative pundits with nothing to sa on his behalf. That wouldn’t necessarily have carred Perry over the top, but it would have helped. I suppose it’s possible that Perry is waiting until after tonight to make a major announcement about staff — after the attention turns away from NH which will be dominating for the next 48 hours — but I’m not hopeful. I’m not only depressed about all this. I’m actually scared for my family and the future of this nation. Romney does nothing to ease my concerns. I’ll vote for him if he’s the nominee but am not hopeful.

  • annie54

    is in sharp contrast to the name “Evangelical”. An Evangelical is one who lives by the entire Bible. All of a sudden, the fact that Romney denies the deity of God and Christ is insignificant!

    That’s why this Conservative Christian – ME! – doesn’t attend Church Services any longer. I don’t like what is coming from the pulpit. It makes the Spirit within me cry out in distress.

    I have a personal relationship with my God and Jesus Christ – not a Pastor of a church. Sorry folks. The Bible said this was going to happen and it has. Evangelical is only a word now with no meaning.

  • tercel

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8EL5Atp_vF0&feature=relmfu

  • thosjefferson

    Gingrich would lose to Obama in a landslide. He’s the antithesis of everything voters want. What other Presidential candidate in history has left office under an ethics cloud, paid a $300,000 fine, lied about his lobbying activities, taken $1.6 million from FreddieMac, taken strong positions on multiple sides of every issue, cheated on two wives, and claimed all that was a mistake and he’s wiser now because he’s a grandpa?

    BTW, h ere’s a comment from NRO:

    Huntsman?s private-sector experience consists of having served as an executive at the firm owned by his billionaire father. Gingrich and Perry have between them about eleven minutes? worth of relevant private-sector experience ? Perry being subsidized by the federal government to farm cotton, Gingrich subsidizing himself by farming his political connections ? and therefore may not know (or care) what a private-equity firm such as Bain does. (Gingrich might consider asking his friends at leveraged-buyout firm Forstmann Little, where he was on the board.)

  • votemout2012

    If the republican party is so concerned with please everyone but it base of conservatives they don’t deserve my support.

  • thosjefferson

    If the four of them have enough sense to overcome their bruised egos, they’ll also invite Herman Cain and Michelle Bachmann. Then they’ll come out of the meeting unanimously supporting Romney and put all the backbiting behind them.

  • nylac100

    The repal of Obamacare will never happen.

    The tea party will have been defeated.

    There are too many people in the Republican party that are okay with those conclusions.

    The tea party needs to bolt. There’s no point as identifying as Republican. Let the liberal wing of our party go their own way.

  • votemout2012

    That’s what the media keeps telling us. So I guess we should skip the primary and just keep drinking the kool-aid

  • votemout2012

    Now that the kind of talk Erick should be talking.

  • nylac100

    The big issue is Romney didn’t oppose Obama care until much too late in this process.

    I don’t think he’s a champion of this opposition.

    We will be screwing at least the next two generations if we don’t get this crap off the books.

  • nylac100

    If Romney wins the Tea Party loses, and the Republican elite are okay with that.

    It’s time to abandon the big-R, let them go their own way.

  • circlegranch

    good read

  • http://www.planettron.com NickDeringer

    Perry made a dumb attack on Romney and Bain. He is sounding more like the Left and One-bama. Perry is farm team player try to pass himself off as a major league. Sad.

  • nylac100

    He never would’ve attacked Paul Ryan. I think that is an understated reason he has not dominated the Not-Romney vote which had a lot of Tea party voters.

    That attack made people look into Newt’s lobbying efforts and his pro-bailout, pro-Freddie and Fannie beliefs.

    Gingrich brought this on himself, I’m not shedding a tear for him, he abandoned everything good he did in 1994.

  • westcoastpatriette

    it’s just so splintered it has lost its cohesion since — like the rest of the nation — it has been unable to enthusiastically coalesce around any one candidate. Let’s hope that this is only happening on the federal level and that we will continue to see them make progress on the state and local level.

    I want to remain optimistic although it is difficult to do at this point. There are too many bizarre influences at play to come to any solid conclusions (for me, anyway) and I do not yet see any inevitable scenarios such as those described by Erick. But, what do I know?

  • tngal

    If Perry loses the suit in virginia, you’re looking at just a couple candidates to pick from . Romney or Paul. Then there’s illinois. Its a delegate issue there. Again, Romney and Paul got the full slate of delegates, but so did Newt. Not sure how it works but its not a deal that equates to one person one vote. Apparently, voters can and do vote in illinois, even the dead ones. But it just doesn’t amount to much since its all about the delegates.

    Also, remember their are 5 states that moved their primary dates up that are going to lose delegates. Heaven knows how that’s going to gum up the works.

    After tonight NH is over and Romney has a dbl digit lead going in so— not saying the polls are necessarily right on the money, but they can’t all be that far off.

    The brokered ocnvention is looking better and better.

  • thirstyboots

    Both parties are losing voters to independents but democrats at a much higher pace than Republicans. There’s only one state where the GP lost voters faster than Dems, Nevada.

    Also look at Gallup self ID numbers:

    2008: 36%D 28%R
    2011: 31%D 27%R

    And Romney never said “I like to fire people”. He said he enjoy having the possibility of firing health-insurance corporations that aren’t providing a good job. Don’t you?

  • http://www.dirkworld.com dirkbelig

    …in Morning Jolt this morning: “We’re hearing objections to private-sector layoffs from the party that wants to shrink government. How do we think all those employees of the federal bureaucracy will get off the payroll — mass alien abductions?”

    Harry Reid has already played the “we need more stimulus borrowing in order to protect government jobs.” Newt and the other desperate non-Romneys have cynically adopted the OWS lingo in order to tear down Romney, utterly unconcerned as to the violence it does to the reputation of free market capitalism.

    Newt Gingrinch is such a petty little man that he has decided to bundle up sitting on a couch with Pelosi, backing Dede Scuzzyfavabean (sp?), and all his other liberal apostasies into one final kamikaze run, just as John McLame only ran in 2008 to avenge not being the nominee in 2000 and promptly laid down for Obama.

    Bob Beckel was bleating on The Five yesterday the talking point about how Bain had a 30% failure rate and that made Romney EVIL. What is Obama’s win-loss record? 0-500? 3-97? If he was as “bad” as Romney in business, he wouldn’t be facing unemployment himself. How is Warren Buffett’s record of laying people off and “looting” businesses. I can’t seem to readily find anything on that front. Is it because the media is protecting their Oracle for higher taxes? (Hint: Duh.)

    People like tercel are going to be the death of freedom with comments like, “I completely understand the concept and how it works but I just can?t cheerlead for a bunch of people who make so much money (25% plus return on capital) while causing so much personal misery for others.”

    This is the talk of class envy and first world guilt. This is the language of Occupy Wall Street and Marxism. These are the thoughts of people who will see the nation dead on the altar of “fairness.”

    It’s rapidly become clear that many conservatives are racing to catch up to the liberals for vacant non-thinking and envious mob behavior. Thanks for nothing.

  • jgge

    Romney and his supporters are the most delusional ****s on the planet if they think that his resume as founder and CEO of Bain capital is a plus for him in this elections rather than the most destructive for his chances to be elected. It is really sad and pathetic to watch.

  • jgge

    any circumstances. Period.

  • tngal

    So I wouldn’t want him anyway. Taking on the unions is a good thing. Even some dems are doing that though. Christie’s social stand is left of center.

  • spainishirish

    It does boil down to the United States Supreme Court. If Obama is re-elected, the United States will survive his incompetence and deliberate economic destruction. American culture will not survive the justices a re-elected Obama places on the USSC, who will expand the liberal project of the last half century and place the final nails in the coffin of basic decency and constitutional principles.

    Romney is a technocratic moderate. He is someone who embraces big government. He is not someone who values limited government. If he has a discernible ideology it isn’t apparent.

    Social issues such as abortion and gay marriage have been off the table the entirety of the primary season. No party is likely to touch them again in our lifetimes and they are irrelevant now as far as national politics. These issues now will be sorted in the courts while the political classes keep clean hands. The economic reforms the Tea Party demanded also are history now.

    What Romney will not do is dismantle the Republic and mold it into something that suits his worldview. In this sense he is the polar opposite of his soon-to-be predecessor, a dim-witted ideologue who puts more stock in left-wing cliches than traditional American political analysis. I look forward to Romney’s election, and trust those who have bemoaned it so much here will not revert to the complacency that let our last
    “compassionate” Republican govern in a way that ran counter to our core principles.

    One way to keep Romney in check is to primary Republican squishes in deeply red states and support more moderate GOP candidates in blue states. So let’s work to elect our presidential nominee and to expand congressional majorities that can keep him in check. I don’t care for how this played out, and the need to take this approach, but it is the hand we have been dealt.

  • thirstyboots

    I had no idea Romney was ever a banker. Bain Capital wasn’t and isn’t some weird hedge fund specialized in exotic derivatives.

    It’s a venture capital firm. Thanks to companies like Bain, much more workers have kept their jobs or gained new ones. Ask the guys at Staples, Sports Authority, Steel Dynamics or Taleo.

    What causes the loss of jobs is miscalculation of capital. Money being wasted in malinvestments. The role of companies like Bain Capital is exactly to correct that and save all those jons.

  • jgge

    of Republicans to vote for Romney. I suggested that he flip flops more, make more plastic smiles, and speak 1000 words in 30 second rather than 500 words he does now, this should help… LOL…

  • thosjefferson

    Ron Paul disciples would never vote for anyone but Ron Paul. Fortunately there will be over 100 million thoughtful Americans voting so the Paul disciples won’t matter.

  • http://908StraightSt.wordpress.com/ mbecker908

    nt

  • Russ Martin

    I will not throw in the towel if he’s not the nominee. There is simply too much at stake in this election and the next. If Romney is the nominee, then I will fully support him and work to get him elected. I firmly believe he can beat Obama. Remember – this election will come down to 12-14 battleground states. And Romney can win in those states.

    Some critical things to think about before giving up on this election:

    1. Who do you want to appoint the next 2-4 Supreme Court Justices – Romney or Obama? Remember, these are LIFETIME appointments that will shape the judicial landscape for the next 50+ years.
    2. The down ballot elections in the house, senate, and state governors/legislatures are too important. We cannot lose our momentum from 2010.
    3. We MUST ensure that we take back the senate and increase our conservative numbers in the house.

    Rolling back 40, 50 – even 80 years of progressivism and statism is a marathon. It will not be accomplished in one or two election cycles. We won’t be fortunate enough to have perfect candidates every time we step into the ballot box. We all want it to happen quickly, but we must be prepared to take the small steps, knowing they will eventually get us where we need to be.

    Romney is by no means, my perfect candidate. I’d much prefer Perry, Gingrich, Huntsman, or Santorum, but if Romney is the nominee, he CAN and MUST beat Obama. This isn’t 1976. Its 2012 and our debt is $16T. We simply can’t afford another 4 years of Obama’s policies.

    Remember – most of the electorate aren’t political junkies. They’re sick and tired of Obama’s broken promises and failed policies. They can’t stand to see America in decline. And I don’t think that they will be as susceptible to Obama’s rhetoric as they were 4 years ago.

    Romney’s a smart guy. He’s well-funded and seems to have a pretty good staff. I believe that he can make a strong case to the independents and casual voters that he is a better choice than Obama.

    If Romney’s the nominee, then so be it. I’m all in.

  • http://travismonitor.blogspot.com Freedoms Truth

    Sorry to see it come to this.

    They should be saying – Romneycare, romneycare, romneycare.

  • thirstyboots

    You have no freaking idea of what capitalism is and how it works.

    What the heck “raiding a company for the profit of a few” even means? That’s nothing but Hollywood lingo.

    If most Americans don’t understand or appreciate creative destruction, then most Americans don’t understand or appreciate capitalism because capitalism is creative destruction. I mean, how many corporations live for more than a century? Barely none. And most people are on the destruction end of the equation? Care to explain that? I mean, is the unemployment rate now 90% or something?

    No, you don’t understand the concept or how it works.

    Let me ask you something: when you put your money in the bank – or when you apply it on other investments -, do you look for the highest interest/return rate possible? And when you buy stuff, do you look at the price?

  • carolina

    will help contain a big govt president (of either party). I’m ready to focus on the Senate!

  • carolina

    will help contain a big govt president (of either party). I’m ready to focus on the Senate!

  • thirstyboots

    Because he doesn’t pray in public and doesn’t talk about God all the time? Because he isn’t from the South?

  • nepanyrush

    This is Redstate, not a site for the Obama reelection. You can probably find a good Obama site since you would be supporting him in 2012.

    By the way, Romney was the conservative choice just 4 years ago. Rush, among others, was championing him as the conservative alternative to McCain. Even now, many conservatives are supporting him, including, it would seem, National Review (which endorsed him 4 years ago) and Ann Coulter. Gallup just released a poll that said Romney is the most acceptable to conservatives, more acceptable than Gingrich or Santorum. (http://www.gallup.com/poll/151961/Majority-Conservatives-Romney-Acceptable.aspx)

    Perhaps you are getting caught in the spirit of some of the posters here, who have been bashing everyone but Perry.

    Cain, Bachmann, Santorum and Gingrich have come under withering fire, but Romney has been under continuous assault. My preferred candidate, Santorum, who I have campaigned for for years and who has attended my events in PA, has been inexplicably attacked.

    Romney is still much, much more conservative than Obama. He has not changed in these past 4 years. I am curious why you are supporting Obama over Romney, when you must certainly know how extreme Obama is.

  • http://travismonitor.blogspot.com Freedoms Truth

    “We have the choice between disaster and destruction,
    I hope the voters choose wisely.”

    The fact that Perry ran 5th in Iowa and will be last in NH should be a clue that whatever “path” Erickson or others see is a mirage.
    Likewise for Huntsman. Whatever he does in NH wont be enough to put him above Romney in any future contest.

    Only if/when we get to a single alternative to Romney can we hope to stop Romney. Since that is not happening soon enough and we dont have a consensus candidate, its Romney.

  • krapes1

    Nick, If you do not like Perry, then that is okay but you are the one that is posting a dumb attack on Perry by calling him a farm team player. In case you do not know this, Gov Perry leads a state that has 25,000,000 people and is the thirteenth largest economy in the whole world. He has helped create over half of the jobs in this country since Obuma has been in Office. You my friend would not know a major leaguer if one hit you in the face.

  • http://www.ajharaldson.com lakeworthcane

    . . . his opponents will have only themselves to blame. He’s a weak and ineffective president whose only power comes from his opponents’ failures.

    Yes, he has a army of zealous supporters who’ve organized, mainly via the Internet. But his leadership skills are demonstrably lousy, his main message is a proven falsehood and, most of all, his time in public office has revealed his flawed character. The only things he has going for him are his incumpency, a vicious and well-connected campaign manager in David Axelrod (who’s on record saying he’s proud of himself, not for getting a good president elected, but for getting a dark-skinned man elected as president), and, most of all, his opponents’ failures.

    Nobody knows for sure what Obama really wants. The media–including FOX or other so-called “conservative” media–aren’t even going to ask him, let alone drill down on his answers when they’re contradicted by his actions. His actions suggest he wants power and wealth, but he runs on the political leftist ticket.

    The political leftist ticket is shaky at best, populated primarily by people who merely want given to them that for with other people have worked. They favor regulation, but only if it allows them to get what other people have.

    In other words, they don’t really want everybody to be poor. They want the wealth in the country transferred from those who have it to those who don’t, and they think Obama will do this for them.

    I don’t think Obama has any intention of doing this, and I don’t think he ever did, but nobody has ever seriously challenged him on the obvious schism between what his supporters expect and what he intends to deliver.

    Case in point: some labor unions, which at one time favored Obama, are now standing against him because his administration’s regulatory behavior is blocking the creation of union jobs. I’m talking about the Keystone Pipeline issue. The EPA and various environmental groups are blocking it, and Obama has refused to make a decision about it, and all of a sudden all these “regulations” don’t seem so attractive to at least some former Obama supporters.

    If those who support Obama could get what they want without him, most of them–except those who support him becasue of his skin color–would abandon him.

    The bottom line is this (and this is some “outside-the-box” thinking, so please be seated): “Capitalism,” as a social order, isn’t about self-interest or greed. Self-interest and greed are moral flaws. “Capitalism” is primarly about a free market: a country’s goods and services production remaining in the hands of private ownership. This freedom (as in “free” market) bears with it no small amount of responsibility; those who privately own and control the country’s goods and services production–and, subsequently, those who control the country’s wealth–have a responsibility to ensure that the country’s wealth is put to good use; namely, that too much of it doesn’t become accumulated in the hands of just a few people; that it benefits everybody.

    That’s not happening in the United States. I could write a book about this. In plain language, those who have access to the wealth are accumulating it while their employees get screwed. Those with access to the wealth aren’t taking care of business in the country that gave them access to the wealth.

    For example, the owners of the country’s largest retailer are collectively worth nearly (as of last year, according to Forbes) $85 billion, but they work their two million employees like farm animals, in most cases don’t even provide health insurance, and import most of their goods from foreign countries, thereby destroying American jobs. Meanwhile, they have more money–mostly in the form of stocks–than they can even count, let alone spend.

    What a waste of the country’s resources. No wonder so many people want to vote for Obama.

    For another example, the nation runs largely on fossil fuel. Gasoline and diesel prices have more than quadrupled since Clinton was in office. Those who privately own the retail gasoline and diesel companies have done nothing but profit from this, completely shirking their free-market responsibility to ensure that Americans get the gasoline and diesel fuel they need at affordable prices.

    On more local and personal levels, everybody I know–and that is not hyperbole–complains that his or her employer has cut wages and increased workloads under the “difficult-economic-times” guise; meanwhile, we see our employers’ top executives granting themselves raises, bonuses, and “golf” and “cruise” seminars.

    Don’t even get me started about the banks. They’re screwing people while their top exectives take home more money than they can count; certainly more than they need.

    Then we have so-called “conservative” media voices defending this, as if “Capitalism” is a defense for moral failure, which greed and self-interest certainly are . . . and I’ll gladly take anybody to task who argues with that.

    Greed and self-interest are failure, not success. “Capitalism” is about a “free market” that puts the majority of the nation’s wealth in private, rather than public sector hands, thus conferrng upon the private sector a responsibility to ensure that the “free market” is good for all people.

    It has to be good for all the people. That’s common sense. It can’t be good for just the few. If a “free market” winds up being nothing more than a system by which very wealthy people can abuse the “freedom,” then it’s a failure.

    Now, the “free market,” i.e. “capitalism,” has been enormously good for Americans and for just about everybody who’s come here. But over the past 20 years or so, it’s been failing. Its leaders–Ayn Rand’s “managers and industrialists”–have reinterpreted it to be all about their greed and self-interest, instead of the system by which a nation operates.

    My boss is screwing me. My brothers’ and sisters’ and friends’ bosses are screwing them, while treating themselves like spoiled royalty. This isn’t “capitalism.” This is moral grotesque moral failure on a broad, comprehensive level; this is the failure of the “free market” system, i.e. “capitalism.”

    Enter Obama–a tried and true despot–and the political left.

    I can’t stand the man. He disgusts me. But so long as the “free market,” i,e, “capitalism,” continues to fail in its responsibilty to ensure that America gets what it needs, and Americans are well-taken care of, the alternative choice–putting the allocation of wealth and the nation’s goods and service production–in the hands of the public sector, seems like a good idea to most people.

    The sad part is that, at least from his actions, Obama has no intention of re-allocating the wealth fairly. He just wants to tear America apart and accumulate vast wealth and power for himself, and he’ll be allowed to do so unfettered because for some reason the media–even the conservative media–don’t go after him and get him to some how reveal his true intentions.

    Listen: our proper concern isn’t who the next president is. The president doesn’t run our economy. We have a “free market” economy: a “capitalist” economy, controlled by privately-owned companies.

    These companies, and their CEOs, are our proper concern. They’re dropping the ball and opening the door to the political left: to public-sector ownership of our country’s wealth and goods and services production.

    Right now we have a “free-market” or “capitalist” economy, and it’s worked very well, and it’s ours to lose. But if we don’t get our acts together and make sure our economy does what it’s supposed to do–ie meet America’s and Americans’ needs–it will be taken from us.

    That’s what happened in Russia, China, Cuba, and Germany, and that’s surely what will happen here. We don’t need greedy, self-interested “managers and industrialists” who use “capitalism” to defend their moral flaws. We need wise, mature chief executives who ensure that the system that made them wealthy serves everybody well. Right now, we just don’t have that and, as a result, we’re in danger of giving our freedom away to despotic psychos like Obama and the irrational political system he touts.

    I’m philosophically conservative and believe in a “capitalist” or “free market” economy, and I’m a heck of a lot more concerned about who’s running the companies that control my country’s wealth–because they’re the ones in control–than I am about who’s elected president.

  • kipling

    Obama and his administration are operating outside of the law and are thus an outlaw regime in the traditional sense of the word.

    His most recent appointments without Senate approval are not simply “a power grab.” They are completely outside of the law and in direct defiance to the U.S. Constitution. These appointments are not legal and the new consumer agency and the NLRB are now not legitimate organizations. Conservatives who minimize these appointments as simply “a power grab” or inside Washington baseball, do not respect the U.S. Constitution or the rule of law. It is also clear that most liberals respect neither.

    I am not a fan of MItt Romney, nor would I vote for him in the primary. However, despite his many (many, many) faults, I would not expect him to operate outside the law during his presidency. That alone is sufficient reason to vote for Romney in the general.

  • pdawk

    That is the exact look that Newt had last night. I literally gagged on my coffee when I read this!

  • paladin1

    He is a northeastern Republican who has taken on the unions with the tacit permission and acquiescence of the Democrats who run the state since they realize that the state is a sinking ship but cannot buck their constituency. That way he gets all the blame and they get their necessary “dirty” work done for them witha built-in scapegoat. Yelling at a few union memebers and calling them names on national TVhas gotten him much publicity and given the illusion he is conservative but that is not the case.

    Christie refused to join in the states’ lawsuit ogainst Obamacare because N.J. stood to gain a very large influx of funds to contiinue to support the monstrous welfare system there. He has not made a significant effort to stem the state employee unions (Tenth Amendment issue) like Walker in Wisconsin and Kasich in Ohio. He does not support the Second Amendment nor does he support right to life.

    Most telling of all that he is not a conservative is his endorsement of Mitt Romney for president.

    Coming from a state with a real conservative governor, I can plainly see that Christie is a faux conservative from the northeast establishment Republicans. Don’t be fooled by his hype.

  • paladin1

    He is a northeastern Republican who has taken on the unions with the tacit permission and acquiescence of the Democrats who run the state since they realize that the state is a sinking ship but cannot buck their constituency. That way he gets all the blame and they get their necessary “dirty” work done for them witha built-in scapegoat. Yelling at a few union memebers and calling them names on national TVhas gotten him much publicity and given the illusion he is conservative but that is not the case.

    Christie refused to join in the states’ lawsuit ogainst Obamacare because N.J. stood to gain a very large influx of funds to contiinue to support the monstrous welfare system there. He has not made a significant effort to stem the state employee unions (Tenth Amendment issue) like Walker in Wisconsin and Kasich in Ohio. He does not support the Second Amendment nor does he support right to life.

    Most telling of all that he is not a conservative is his endorsement of Mitt Romney for president.

    Coming from a state with a real conservative governor, I can plainly see that Christie is a faux conservative from the northeast establishment Republicans. Don’t be fooled by his hype.

  • gipper823

    And then when Romney loses in the general election because of abject apathy, how do we look ourselves in the mirror when we know we could have kept fighting for someone who would really turn out the vote?

    Beyond depressing post.

  • paladin1

    Except for the Christie post because I guess even the computer gremlins see what a phony conservative he is.

  • paladin1

    Except for the Christie post because I guess even the computer gremlins see what a phony conservative he is.

  • sigmasix

    “One way to keep Romney in check is to primary Republican squishes in deeply red states and support more moderate GOP candidates in blue states. So let?s work to elect our presidential nominee and to expand congressional majorities that can keep him in check. I don?t care for how this played out, and the need to take this approach, but it is the hand we have been dealt.”

    Remember 2006, the immigration debate, remember how some on our side keep say, “you can’t step out against our President, the President sets the agenda!”

    This is a cowardly statement.

    What you should say:

    Support Romney because you need to take your lumps, you need to embrace a bigger government. You need to support:

    - A VA-TAX
    -Obama care
    -Cap & Trade

    Be happy that Romney is here to provide A REPUBLICAN VERSION

  • thirstyboots

    All those posts about how the “political consultancy class” hated Perry because he had his own team from Texas and those guys were so great and how the “political consultancy class” was scared of death with Perry and his elite team and whatnot. It’s kind of fun it ends like this. Karma, I suppose.

    With all dues respect, Perry doesn’t have a staff problem. He has a Perry problem. It was never a good idea for a guy like him to try to make it in the national stage.

  • gabs

    Considering what the candidates should be focused on, there should be a moratorium on anything other than the economy. No more on their families, religions, hobbies, etc. Enough pandering. Someone needs to set a serious tone and refuse to do this American Idol style.

  • acat

    Instructions for how to do so vary, but I understand it’s one of the things that fixes the duplicate issue.

    Mew

    p.s. Christie and Santorum are both single-leg conservatives .. Christie’s leg is fiscal, Santorum’s leg is social … neither is what we need at 1600 Pennsylvania Ave.

  • tngal

    Type in Christie in your browser along with immigration. See what comes up. Christie and gun control. Christie and global warming/climate change. the short answers will be soft, favors it and believes in it. Also, last word I got was that he had not joined in with other states that are working to challenge Obamacare. (course that might have changed from last month)

    Yes he is fiscally capable as a leader. But so are some dems. The only thing separating us from them are our stands on social issue and the fact we have opposable thumbs.

  • thirstyboots

    I was basically right: Christie isn’t a conservative and he isn’t from the South (not the use of the term “northeastern”).

    Anyway, to start off, you say Christie “does not support right to life”. You’re obviously lying or you’re misinformed and very irresponsible. Christie is the first pro-life NJ governor since Roe and he has actually cut funds to Planet Parenthood.

    Here’s from the National Right to Life:

    Pro-Life Governor Christie Again Defunds Planned Parenthood in New Jersey
    You?d think Planned Parenthood and their supporters in the New Jersey state legislature would have figured it out by now. The state?s governor, Chris Christie, is not going send the money of New Jersey taxpayers to groups like theirs.

    Once again, this past June, the Democrat-controlled state legislature passed a budget containing $7.5 million in state funds for ?family planning? clinics in the state, such as Planned Parenthood. Once again, as he did last year, Christie vetoed that item along with several other non-family planning outlays in the $30+ billion budget, cutting $1.3 billion altogether, citing the need for what he called ?adult supervision? in times of ?fiscal trouble? (Times, of Trenton, 6/30/11, NY Times, 6/30/11)

    But there’s more:

    Gov. Christie brings social conservatism to historically blue state, experts say

    http://www.nj.com/news/index.ssf/2010/10/gov_christie_brings_social_con.html

    or

    Gov. Chris Christie backs anti-abortion activists, says ‘every life is precious and a gift from God’

    http://www.nj.com/news/index.ssf/2011/01/anti-abortion_rally_marks_roe.html

    So, will you humbly admit you were wrong and apologize for slandering Governor Christie, paladin1? Or you lack the spine and the morals to do that?

  • thirstyboots

    Misinformation and deceiving.

    Christie is much more of a social conservative than Santorum is a fiscal conservative and isn’t even close. Can you comment on the links I provided above, acat? Of course not, you’ll just punt.

    Let’s face it: Christie’s problem is that he’s from New Jersey and for some folks if you aren’t a Christian Conservative from the South or Mid American, then you aren’t a conservative.

  • conservnca

    should rise up. I thought we the people were supposed to decide an election, not clever campaigns. It’s our responsibility to vet the candidates. Have we come to the point that we expect others to tell us who can win and who can’t. Talk about whiners. If we don’t like who is being forced on us then do something about it. In all due respect to EE and his experience this time it is not politics as usual. Our country is on fire. If our house was burning down would we just wait until the fire dept. came and told us how to put it out or would we start to fight it to save our home until help arrived. Simplistic I know but this is not that complicated.WE THE PEOPLE,WE THE PEOPLE, WE THE PEOPLE! What has happened to us? Are we that brainwashed that we believe we have no power left? If that’s the case then why do our soldiers still go to war to protect our first amendment right? Why do THEY still think it is worth fighting and dying for? Why should they leave their families and risk dismemberment if we won’t do our part and fight the enemy here. If America is still worth fighting for then quit talking and start rallying behind the candidates with the principles this country was founded on.It seems pretty clear to me who that is but last time I looked this is still a free country and we have the right to choose for ourselves.So choose. Not who someone(political party, pundit, poll, politicians who owe Romney because he helped them win in 2010, or FEAR)thinks we have to settle for. Compromise of our values NEVER turns out well. Again, EE with all due respect instead of using your pulpit so to speak to dispirit those of us who still believe this country is worth laying our lives down for, why don’t you use this website to encourage us and rally us. It’s not up to one candidate to defeat Obama with his machine that has an insatiable appetite for power, it’s up to all of us. If all of us just do a little to elect who we think is best to fight back for us, you would be amazed at what can be accomplished. BUT the first thing that has to happen is each one of us has to search our hearts to find out if we believe we can win. The main reason we even have the right to vote and have a say is because our Founding Fathers believed that right among many others was worth their lives, personal fortunes, getting back up when knocked down and all seemed lost.Give me freedom or give me death. Too dramatic? Take a look around you. If Perry’s campaign is such a disaster then those of us who believe in him will become his campaign. Word of mouth, money, volunteering, speaking out, knowing his record etc. with the attitude that failure is not an option.2010 was the prelude to 2012. Not even 2 years later, have we already forgotten. We all were so insulted when in an interview Obama said Americans have gotten a little soft. So lets prove him wrong. Let’s show the world thru this election that freedom still works, and no, it’s not free but sooo worth the fight!

  • thirstyboots

    Name me one dem who’s even on the same planet of Christie when it comes to fiscal conservatism? You only believe in that because you don’t really care about fiscal issues -.so to you it’s all good. That’s why you believe that what separates conservatives and democrats are the stand on social issues. There are plenty of dems who think just like you on social issues -. you’d be okay with most Blue Dogs from the South.

    Christie on global warming? He was the only governor to pull his state off the Green Gas Regional Initiative. Christie walks the walk and governs conservatively, he doesn’t merely pay lip service to some evangelicals and talk-radio listeners.

    And what exactly is un-conservative about his position on immigration? That he isn’t in favor of mass deportation?

    You’re probably one of those who hates Daniels because he talked about the truce and hates Christie because he nominated a muslim judge and doesn’t pander to big government socons.

  • paladin1

    I note that you fail to address anything else but the right to life issue. I am quite aware of those articles/links you post however, in my opinion, Christie’s tacit support for Obamacare and the abortion funding hidden in it, make him either duplicitous or uninformed about the program foisting government paid abortion on all states, not just N. J.

    I don’t post name-calling of those who disagree with me, nor do I expect apologies for those who I believe are intentionally obfuscating the facts. I am doing neither so…don’t hold your breath.

  • http://travismonitor.blogspot.com Freedoms Truth

    Santorum, Gingrich, Perry, etc. all hit with the unelectable meme.

  • spainishirish

    The stages of grief are playing out now and reason isn’t an option yet.

  • http://www.hakubi.us/ Neil Stevens

    I won’t tolerate your bigotry.

  • acat

    I had not heard before that Christie had actually gotten the de-funding of Planned Parenthood through the Jersey legislature.

    The typical model of northeast republicans is – like Romney – to claim a personal objection but not take action on issues including abortion, bearing of arms, etc.

    I am pleased to see Christie bucking this trend, and thank you for the links.

    One point to you – I’m neither southern nor christian, so don’t view either as a determinative factor. I support Perry at this time not because he’s a Texan Christian, but because he’s a three-legged conservative.

    Mew

  • cbartlett

    I, too, am concerned about Romney’s lukewarm opposition to it and lack of enthusiasm for the repeal process. BUT there is no way he’d have the guts to actually veto repeal legislation – his ego is too big to allow him to go down in the history books for that! Our primary goal, therefore, needs to be supporting conservative candidates that can win and getting a sufficient number of conservatives in the House and Senate to actually get the repeal legislation written and passed. (I’m still praying for Perry….)

  • paladin1

    My reply to thirstyboots came out as a single.

  • gipper823

    A dirty image comes to mind when I think of a three legged man.

  • gipper823

    Made me laugh.

  • acat

    I see your reply above. I am underinformed on Christie, not living any closer to New Jersey than absolutely necessary, so am attempting to learn by osmosis.

    Alas, thirstyboots is now a ghost, so we won’t hear her reply.

    Mew

  • peta

    Mitt, Ron, Newt, Rick, and Rick(what’s with the Rick turnout) all would make better presidents then the current office holder. Huntsman is Obama lite.
    But even if any of them get in, we need to control all the contests all the way down to dog catcher!! (no offence to dog catchers)
    We need to have a full court press, as my brother would say. Still, Mitt is more RINO then I’d like.

  • tnguy

    The tea party orchestrated its own demise. They can’t blame the party or the media or anyone else.

    Some of them support Ron Paul. As disgusting of an individual as he is, there are those who would term themselves tea partiers who agree with Paul’s constitutionalist views and probably 80% of his positions. So do I for the most part. Unfortunately, much of the other 20% is noxious.

    Some of them support Santorum. They know he’s a social conservative, but never dig any deeper than that. They know little or nothing of his statism. That’s no one’s fault but their own.

    Some of them support Gingrich. Only someone with their head in the sand can be uninformed about Gingrich, yet in spite of his support for socialized medicine, in spite of his support for global warming measures, they still stand with him.

    Some support Romney. Because they figure he’s the most electable. And hey, National Review is endorsing him.

    Not enough of them support Rick Perry. Perry has some warts, but he’s the closest thing to what conservatives should be looking for, and by a wide margin. Yet Iowa and now NH have rejected him.

    Which brings to mind another point, why do we, as conseratives allow 2 non-conservative states have such a giant say in who our nominee is? We really need to change that.

  • conservnca

    I know this point has been made many times but it bears repeating. Since when do 2 states get to choose for 50? I don’t understand this reasoning. Perry did badly because the fix was already in over the candidates who support Ethanol subsidies. Check Perry’s record on Ethanol. Iowa’s economy depends on those subsidies. And come on, NH for a conservative with a record like Perry’s. That one is not hard to figure out. Mitt talks their language. Let’s see what the other 48 has to say

  • acat

    Ronald Reagan, a.k.a. The Gipper, described conservatism as a stool with three legs.

    Strong families.
    Strong economy.
    Strong defense.

    Santorum has demonstrated only strong families (specifically religious-right) traits, IMO, so I describe him as a golf-tee conservative.

    I’m clearly going to need to learn more about Christie, sounds like he’s got more of a social-conservative leg than I’d thought.

    Mew

  • cdthat

    annie54, where do you get this stuff? The first Article of Faith of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints which Mitt Romney has belonged to his entire life states “We believe in God the Eternal Father, and in His Son Jesus Christ and in the Holy Ghost”

    How does that equate to denying the deity of God and Christ?

    Let’s base our attacks on facts, not stuff you read in the National Enquirer or Anti-Mormon rubbish.

  • ludah

    I agree 100%, the incompetent is NOT stupid. He has some very powerful and smart people behind him. They aren’t interested in what is best for the country, but only power, money and influence. If odumbo is re-elected I think our country is finished.l

  • Finrod

    Just because you don’t like what Romney did at Bain does not make you an anti-capitalist. The fact that you like Ron Paul more than Newt Gingrich is evidence of how brain-dead you are. Your accusations of Newt’s corruption means you swallowed the bait that House Democrats put out in the 90s hook, line, and sinker– they kept throwing corruption accusations at Newt until one managed to stick slightly because they had nothing else and he was eating their lunch.

    Newt Gingrich led Republicans to take over Congress for the first time in 40 years. No one you support can claim anything close to that.

  • http://www.RightFace.us dkolonia

    The fact that your predication have not been good at all give me hope that you are wrong again! :)
    Erick, what exactly would you have Perry do differently? You say he has a path but is not taking it. What path is that? I would love to hear more details of how Perry could win. I would love to see him win so wondering minds want to know what he could do different than what he is doing now.

  • acat

    please find one that doesn’t involve religion.

    Mew

  • http://www.RightFace.us dkolonia

    The fact that your predications have not been good at all lately give me hope that you are wrong again! :)
    Erick, what exactly would you have Perry do differently? You say he has a path but is not taking it. What path is that? I would love to hear more details of how Perry could win. I would love to see him win so wondering minds want to know what he could do different than what he is doing now.

  • tercel

    I do understand the principle. I am a CPA. I said it was good for a society as a whole. So is bacteria and survival of the fittest.

    You just can not SELL it to the American public. The average American voter is not going to vote for the guy who fired them or their friends and put the nail in the coffin of the only big industry in their small town. Not to mention the fact that he made himself and his investors immensely rich in the process.

    What do you think OWS is all about? While most people don’t go out there and join those kooks, they have a sympathy for their cause. Us vs The Man.

    I’m in full agreement with you that Capitalism raises all boats and is the only system that produces a middle class and is morally superior.

    I’m just telling you that the “the mortician” is not going to get elected president. No matter how necessary he is.

  • westcoastpatriette

    refers to these three aspects of the political spectrum: 1. social 2. fiscal 3. defense.

    Most conservatives agree that all three areas need to be strongly defended and supported for America to remain healthy and free.

  • jakeofalltrades

    1. Mormons deny that Christ was always God, disagreeing with all Christians on that matter.
    2. 20% of Republicans will not vote for a Mormon
    3. Those 20% are stupid.
    4. Trying to claim Mormonism is just another branch of Christianity will get a portion of the non-stupid 80% to campaign against Mormonism at a time when Romney is trying to win the nomination and become president.

  • jaykali

    I was listing out some of the favorites by conservatives and Chris Christie absolutely belongs on that list. I know some will call him a RINO but he’s no where near Romney territory as far as far-right hatred. I think ppl rightly conclude that he is a leader, a fighter and a rock-star republican right now.

    Now if he actually had to run a national campaign maybe his more moderate views on certain things would make ppl turn on him but he would certainly have my support.

  • tnguy

    What do you think Romney will do? Exactly.

    Romney isn’t a conservative. I can’t vote for him. He’ll sign leftist legislation and appoint leftist judges, to the extent congress allows him. GWB did severe damage to the long-term sustainability of our country, and Romney is left of him.

    On the judges…..That he won’t be quite as bad as Obama is hardly something that will win my vote. Look what Bush tried to do with Miers. Even Reagan screwed it up with Kennedy.

    What we need are more conservatives in congress. Men and women who aren’t afraid to stand up and say “NO!”, regardless of what the media, Obama, Boehner or McConnell say and do.

    We are at a tipping point in this country. We are swimming in debt. The debt and unfunded pension liabilities is over half a million per household. How many of you can pay that? Exactly. You needn’t think that the super wealthy can just pony up, it a demonstrable fact that they can’t (and won’t), not to the extent of our disastrous situation. We need dramatic immediate change in this country to deal with these problems. Yet, almost no one is willing to accept that. I guess we’ll just float along with the status quo until everything begins to collapse underneath us.

  • cbartlett

    How is it that those two wimpy states with very few electoral college votes are determining the future of the rest of the country?!? There are more people in several of the largest Texas cities than there are in all of the first 4 or 5 primary states. It is so disappointing that everyone is giving up and throwing in the towel this soon. This is one really SCREWED up system!!

  • jaykali

    I hear this all the time, I mean look ppl. These people are trying to get elected in a blue state. So they are probably not going to hold super conservative positions on every single issue, especially on social issues.

    So we can just rule out any governor or senator from a blue state from now to eternity or we can look at the candidate case by case and see if they are conservative on the most important things. I would love a Chris Christie candidacy, he would tear Obama to shreds.

  • kipling

    In the United States a person is still allowed to vote or not vote for someone based on whatever criteria they choose. A personal religious test to determine who to vote for is fine and acceptable.

    You may want to remove religion from the public sphere but it is not going to happen.

    If the original comment is wrong then refute it, but do not try to silence the commentator by pushing your own speech codes.

  • jaykali

    Because that is a logical strategy.

  • acat

    Mew

  • kipling

    Wem

  • texashistorian

    in the sense I feel what you are saying. In my case it’s Perry. I like Huntsman as my second choice, and both of them need something special to turn this around (though obviously it would have to be one or the other).

    There are paths for both men, and I hope and pray one of them will see it, grab it, and go. I feel a bit ill considering Mitt as the nominee, though admittedly a bit less so than I felt over John McCain.

  • jakeofalltrades

  • yahoo

    Republicans have to stop running candidates with low wattage minds (perry), blowhards (gingrich), autocrat robots (Romney), and retreads with no currency (santorum).

    Why on earth the party doesn’t back Huntsman is beyond me. I like that he doesn’t throw out red meat. I like that he trusts science. And he’s a great family man with a terrific record. Just shoot yourself in the foot, folks

  • jakeofalltrades

    Congress drives the spending. We need a president who will veto Congress to keep them in check. You don’t get that with Romney.

    A vote for Romney is a vote for status quo.

  • acat

    is that Red State is not a site devoted to the debating of the merits of one religious belief over another. (rule 8 applies)

    As there are better reasons to dislike Romney, and as you and I have found them, I take as a clear indication that others can likewise find them, instead of resorting to attacking on the grounds of religion.

    I see no reason for a broad-brush attack, and many reasons – including each and every Mormon who have opposed Romney – to avoid using such a broad brush.

    Mew

  • cheetah2

    Romney is way better than Obama.

  • spainishirish

    That will be decided tonight, as you point out. Stranger things have happened.

    Otherwise it is Romney.

    While I certainly prefer Huntsman, it will be relatively easy for me and the vast majority of Republicans to vigorously support Romney over Obama. I think that is what is about to unfold, and EE is right on that point.

  • texashistorian

    He, like Giuliani, another Northeastern Republican (not a conservative) favors gun control. There. There is at least one issue that makes him non-conservative.

  • kipling

    Rule 8 states: “Generalized attacks on mainstream, peaceful religious beliefs and practices are forbidden. RedState.com is firstly a political website, and is not an appropriate venue for debates on comparative Christianity and Judaism.”

    The issue of Mitt Romney being a Mormon is not a generalized attack. It is completely legitimate to question how those beliefs will play out with the conservative base, the larger Republican party, and the general election. Just like it was fair to discuss Perry’s social conservatism and social liberalism of GOProud.

    The question of Mormonism has already entered the political arena. To interpret the rule as you would means that Mr. Erickson and several other contributors have already violated their own rules.

    Pretty sure that an unwritten rule is not to attempt to moderate from the sidelines.

  • audax

    nt

  • acat

    There’s a good bit of light between questioning whether evangelicals will show up for a non-evangelical (a list that includes Gingrich, Huntsman, Romney, or Santorum) and a broad-brush attack on a peaceful religion containing a number of conservatives.

    Further, if you think I’m trying to moderate from the sidelines, please take it to the contacts page.

    Mew

  • texashistorian

    . . . and this is the big objection that I have always had to Huntsman, even though I like him overall. If you believe a scientist who says that AGW is unproven, and in fact, there is little evidence to support it, then you are “Anti-science.” If you believe in Intelligent Design, as do a number of scientists, then you are “anti-science.” Stop it already. “Anti-Science” is a label thrown around by the left to scare voters into thinking conservatives are backwards rubes that can’t run a country in the 21st century. Huntsman F**ed up his chances by dancing to that song in an effort to separate himself from the field. It did, but in the wrong direction.

    It is a bigger issue than a comment on a blog site, but basically the left presses that direction because it justifies the soft tyranny they hope to impose. We must regulate this, or ban that, tax this other, or punish that behavior because “science” says we must, and who can argue with science? Huntsman should have kept his trap shut on that score, and he might have been looking at some real success because his record, as you point out, is good, and he has no skeletons or scandals in the closet.

  • tngal

    I don’t loathe him as much as I do Pelosi. But really, from the minute the guy came in and made some dubious appointments on his committees-(right after we put in a bunch of conservatives to show him the way forward mind you)- to all this capitulating back and forth on the bills. I’m just not happy with the man. Whichever person stumbles into the white house from this primary will be helped or hurt by the speaker and their influence. Can we not get a decent speaker?

  • kipling

    Pretty sure that annie54 was questioning whether Romney would receive the support of evangelicals. She then questioned whether evangelical still means what it once did. Since evangelicals are a voting block, these are legitimate questions.

    Where is the broad-brush attack on a peaceful religion?

    You are trying to moderate from the sidelines by attempting to define what people can or cannot say. The moderators can do their own jobs. If you think annie54 has violated the rules, then you take it to the contacts page.

  • dpmapper

    Is there any evidence of Huntsman using “science” for non-scientific ends like liberals do? i.e., other than on evolution and existence of global warming?

  • treeofliberty

    A great, great man btw. A dedicated Republican and true businessman who grew up in poverty to a poor immigrant family selling newspaper to one of the wealthiest men in America. Started his first business when he was 12. Inspirational guy, I’ll only stay at his hotels in Vegas. Even though I disagree with the man he’s supporting.

  • edintexas

    It’s all about his commentary on Obamacare and the “I like to fire people” snippet. We all believe he was talking about the ability to choose those who provide medical services to him. What isn’t being talked about is that part of the quote where he says that is “…one thing I would change…”. Now I only heard as much of the comment as Mark Davis played in making his point about how bad it was to jump on Mittens for saying he liked to fire people. So it is possible that there is even more missing, but I suspect the point I took from the quote isn’t changed.

    The point I took from the quote is that Mittens is still in love with universal government mandated, or provided, health insurance. He still thinks Romneycare was a great idea. And he is telling us he will not, as President, work for the repeal of Obamacare. He is willing to call for changes, snipping around the edges without changing the basic program. This is unacceptable to me, and should be to all Conservatives.

  • acat

    Regarding the broad brush attack …

    Evangelicals suppport Romney which …is in sharp contrast to the name ?Evangelical?. An Evangelical is one who lives by the entire Bible. All of a sudden, the fact that Romney denies the deity of God and Christ is insignificant!

    The basis for the conclusion that Romney is somehow denying the deity of God and Christ is that Romney isn’t an evangelical.

    I saw no reason to take this to the moderators, so I pointed out the problem with the argument and that there are far better reasons to dislike Romney.

    Again, if you do think I’m moderating from the sidelines, then take it to the contacts page. Otherwise, drop it.

    Mew

  • texashistorian

    in and of itself. I don’t know if Huntsman has gone beyond that or not, but that is not the point. Even if he WOULDN’T institute a cap-and-trade, or a carbon tax, or maintain negative pressure on coal companies, or stifle oil and gas production to the extent its possible, by taking that line he aligned himself with those who would. That killed his chances in the GOP primary because thinking conservatives (who greatly outnumber thinking liberals) recognize that what Huntsman has stood for here in principle is wrong.

    The real danger of Huntsman using the ‘anti-science’ narrative is that we cannot afford to legitimize it in the GOP, or else it becomes settled and that much harder to take on. As long as the major nominees of one of the two parties continue to battle against the false arguments of the left, they can be kept at bay. Once the GOP caves and accepts the liberal AGW “science” as truth, the battle is over.

  • uselogic

    in a CSPAN televised NH townhall he came across as kindly Uncle Newt, your favorite college professor. He was patient with questions, gave well thought out & 90% conservative answers and showed a sense of humor. His talk was
    more interesting than the BCS game.

    Jeez, I’m beginning to think he’s truly schizophrenic.

  • texashistorian

    nt

  • aesthete

    nt

  • aesthete

    I have to admit, with the lousy field on display, I’d much rather have Palin than either Santorum or Romney.

  • conservativemusician

    But I do agree with you that Erick needs to provide specifics if he really thinks the Perry has a shot to get back into this.

    For Erick to say that “…I see a path to victory for Rick Perry. I don?t see him taking it” is incomplete analysis. He has called repeatedly for Perry to shake up his campaign in recent days, but I don’t think this action alone is the long-term answer to Perry’s problems.

    The main challenge I see for Perry now is that public opinion has hardened considerably against him to the point where many are not taking him seriously as a viable candidate. He is viewed as a bumbling lightweight and no amount of debates at this point are likely to help rehabilitate his image in this hostile media environment where so many of so-called Tea Party voters have their heads up their collective butts and are not looking at the true Perry conservative record of governance.

    I still think Perry is the best and most consistently conservative and electable candidate we have, but many in the conservative base are apparently not willing to forgive him for his early missteps and debate flubs. How unfortunate it is that so many conservatives either cannot or will not look at the totality of the Perry record, which is truly outstanding.

    I think the only way Perry has a chance is if he can somehow stay afloat through Florida and then hope that public opinion will swing back in his favor once Romney and Santorum are both fully vetted and Paul is an afterthought. I keep reading on other blogs that others are hoping Perry can stick around long enough for them to cast their vote for him in the later primaries. This is very positive, but even so, it is possible that people will simply look past Romney’s faults and still view him as the most electable. I think Romney’s numbers are going up a bit post IA because people have lost hope that the non-Romney candidates can match up with Obama and are slowly starting to settle for Romney. It really is a sad state of affairs, but if Romney is the nominee, we have to support him – warts and all.

    Even if Romney ends up being the nominee, the good news is that Obama is so unpopular that any of our candidates still have a great shot at winning, even if they are not the most conservative candidate we can field.

    Here is link today that notes by a 2-1 margin that the greatest fear we have as a nation is the reelection of Obama (h/t Hot Gas):

    http://hotair.com/archives/2012/01/10/poll-americans-2-1-fear-obamas-reelection/

    Still pulling for Perry and praying things can change in public opinion toward him, but I am looking at this realistically as well. Anything can happen…and Perry may yet pull a “Tebow”.

    Perry 2012

  • lineholder

    Regardless of who our next President turns out to be, having an increase in the number of Conservatives within Congress is likely to play a significant role in defining how much is spent and what it is spent on.

    If a big-government type is elected President, than we have to hope that a more Conservative Congress will maintain the degree of balance that is needed economically.

    If a limited government type is elected President…so much the better because it strengthens our case.

  • aesthete

    The median salary in the US is ~$20/hr. There are many countries in which this is not the median salary for even a *month*. American workers earn many times the amount of money that those living in third-world countries earn. Which do you think would be more useful: forcible confiscation of American salaries to help out those third-worlders, or looking to see what the proximate causes of this difference in earning power is? I would argue that the latter is the more useful course of action.

    Likewise, it is more productive to see *why* the wealthy make so much, than to redistribute their property. It is possible that there are aspects of our system which we need to address, and I don’t mind a bit of moral hectoring now and again. However, the redistribution that follows talk of arbitrarily-defined (and ever-changing) “fairness” is not an acceptable solution to such a structural problem.

  • Melody Warbington (rwm52)

    get the government we deserve. I’d say sometimes the same is true for church. Allow me to explain.

    If you don’t like where the GOP is headed, what are you doing to change it? As Cold Warrior and others have said time and time again, we have to get involved at the local level in order to effecuate real, fundamental, lasting change. One or two election cycles of new conservative blood in Congress isn’t going to cut it. And I realize that not everyone has the opportunity/time/skills or what have you to become a precinct chairman, but you can go to meetings and support those who have the same values as you.

    As for church services, and I say this in all kindness and sincerity, the primary purpose is to worship and praise God, not what we can get out of it. And I admit that I find myself sometimes commenting that I didn’t get much out of that sermon. That’s when I try to stop and think about my attitude. Was my worship pleasing to God?

    What’s troubling about Romney is not his faith (with which I disagree). It’s his record. But I’d vote for him any day of the week over the self-proclaimed born-again Christians like Jimmy Carter or Bill Clinton or Jesse Jackson or Obama or Rev. Wright or fill in the blank who use Christianity for political expediency.

  • kestrel

    I laughed out loud at the opening shot of Perry firing that pistol and him and that young guy yowling and laughing. He will be a different kind of president, but actually will be blessedly out of our faces (unlike O, whose mouth never closes) and responsibly doing his job. I like the Tea party sign at the end of the video: Record, not rhetoric.

  • avagreen

    Go vote and view. ;)

  • cacharlie

    If the Tea Party pushes hard enough, I see either Perry breaking the mysterious roadblock to his nomination or the convention getting thrown open for new business! (and what then God only knows!)

    Feel free to blast my argument and give me some other more useful direction! Meanwhile, what I see is, sadly, Newt has confirmed my fear that he has not matured enough to be a competent President, nor has Santorum. Paul is a useful spoiler as long as he doesn’t go Independent. I don’t know Huntsman well enough to be sure he’d be any better than Romney, and there are way too many out here who don’t want to be McCained again!

    Governor Perry rings so true to me that I am truly puzzled why Coulter blew him off – unless she’s been bought by the Rove/Morris “establishment crowd” that keeps ruling Perry out. How can there be any further doubt that we are not only fighting an immature Marxist in the White House but a beltway boycott against anyone upsetting a lucrative applecart?

    Why aren’t we hearing from DeMint about all this? I expected sometime back Palin would come out for Perry and wonder why not. Is it possible if we all send money to Perry, bombard DeMint, Ryan, West and other demonstrated conservatives to endorse him and get back out on the corners with our flags and Perry banners we can save this nation?

  • jakeofalltrades

    choose minarchist Congressmen? It doesn’t make sense.

    It’s time to accept the fact that America fundamentally likes big government. The only people who don’t can be found at RedState and Mises.

  • kipling

    You did not point out the problem with the argument. In fact, you did nothing to refute the argument.

    Your entire response consisted of: “Spagnolo rule. Given all the good reasons to dislike Romney… please find one that doesn’t involve religion. Mew.”

    You did not point out the problem in her argument. You attempted to control what someone posts by citing a non-existent rule.

  • kipling

    It will be interesting to see how Romney and his Mormon faith will play with the larger evangelical voting block. Hugh Hewitt began laying the groundwork for a bridge between Mormons and evangelicals with his book “A Mormon in the White House,” which was published in 2007 by Regnery Publishing. The question has already arisen in the campaign with the pastor from Dallas. Glen Beck has taken the tack that Mormonism is simply a branch of traditional Christianity, although the two differ greatly and even Joseph Smith disagree with that assertion.

    The question is one that must be addressed. We cannot pretend that the issue does not exist. If, as jakeofalltrades asserts, 20% of Republicans will not vote for a Mormon – rightly or wrongly – then we have a serious problem with our presumptive nominee.

  • runner12

    more local and thus more representative of the people. If we are going to really take back this country, we must fire Harry Reid and elect small government Congressmen and women. DeMint made this very point today on talk radio.

    I would argue that the Senate and House are where the real house cleaning needs to begin. They are the ones who write the big government, business crushing laws. The President just signs them. If we have a small government legislature who puts forth a small government agenda, do you really think Mittens would have the guts to not go along? Heck no. He would be roasted on a spit by the base. Conversely, if we have a small government President (Perry) and Reid still has control of the Senate, how effective do you think Perry will be?

    In a perfect world, Perry would be President with DeMint as Senate Majority Leader and Bachman or Ryan as Speaker of the House. But I would be willing to take at least 2 out of 3, would’nt you?

  • http://www.timothy-bladel.com/ center77

    I am not sure if I think voters are ready, I do agree that they are getting tired of this, and I have my feelings that anything short of the tea party getting behind Perry is going to stop Romney. They get behind Newt; he will fall because of the negatives ads which are mostly true. Santorum will just not have the contacts to raise enough resources, and his past is already starting to haunt him, Now I think it is important that for strategic reasons that the Tea Party small government conservatives get behind Perry, he has the record that blows Romney’s out the water, he has the ability to raise funds that may only be rivaled by Mitt Romney, and if it is just him and Perry we will see a lot of donors come out to try and stop Romney. We are about to see what plays out, but I know where I stand.

  • http://impudent.edublogs.org/ kyle8

    though unfair might be enough to reelect Obama.

  • jakeofalltrades

    Gingrich’s dip worked to Romney’s benefit. Given the (illusory) opposition between the two, that indicates settling behavior.

    The remaining Perry supporters are the hardest of the hardcore, so we aren’t going to settle. The others can, though! I’d like to see a one two-man race between Romney and Perry.

  • Scope

    As I just posted elsewhere, John King, and the other three on the panel laughed at EE saying that the voters are tired of this already, and just want it over. John King said that the primary season has just started. I believe that the panel was totally perplexed by EE’s comments. Hey, that’s just the facts.

    I also have my head swimming again with EE posting this morning that Perry has a path, but he won’t take it. A few hours later, now Perry has finally listened to “us” and has readjusted his SC campaign. WOW if that isn’t hubris on display, I don’t know what is. I’m quite certain that Perry, his campaign and staff, are not depending on what RS has to say about their campaign. The opposing posts from one hour to the next is getting laughable.

  • carolynr

    Every time that someone pounds hard on Romney…he calls in Christie. Know what…I don’t want this party to be Independents…I don’t. Talk about the three legs of the Republican Party…not with these guys you don’t have it. Sorry. Christie is great against the teacher’s unions…that are bankrupting his state…but otherwise..nope.

    If Romney should win this nomination and NOT DO what he campaigned on…it will be the end of the Republican Party. Secondly…I am not sure that Romney is going to win. Why…because (1) the phony unemployment numbers that are at 8.5%. 2) I don’t see the majority of Paul’s people even voting Republican and 3) Obama set into place this OWS way before Romney came into being. This was a set up. They knew it was probable with WILLARD’S money that he would be able to run a stealth campaign for four years. They (Obama) also started this class warfare wherein the rich were bad. Rich isn’t bad…except if it blatantly costs people their jobs or their taxes…say like the Wall Street bailout. That’s when it is bad. We saved the rich at the expense of the middle class. Oh..that for another day. So…when Willard gets up there…here he will sit and Obama will blame WILLARD for being a fat cat and taking people’s money and jobs…blah…blah. Only problem is…lots of people are hurting and it is because of Obama AND COMPASSIONATE CONSERVATISM (Santorum). Why do you think all those Dems registered as Indies in Iowa…they want Romney…bad. He is their poster child…he is the example of why they can justify redistribution. He’s never felt their pain…blah…blah…blah. And then…Hannity will come unglued because the people will side with Obama…because he has been “conditioning” them for four year now.

    Meanwhile…the guy with the record…the guy that the Club For Growth gave the best grades to…well…DC doesn’t want him because HE WILL DRAIN THE SWAMP…and the pundits don’t want him…because…I’ve decided they are all left leaning…INCLUDING FOX.

  • cacharlie

    is that Ann Coulter wasn’t trying to shove Romney down my.throat – not to mention other frantic recommendations from people I have counted upon for wise and principled references for problems and solutions in our nation’s best interests.
    I know I am not the only one out here who is well informed and experienced in successfully hiring worthy employees. In that regard, Governor Perry’s resume, presentation of himself and proposals for limiting government indicate he would be a fine nominee. It’s not that I know better than others – it’s just that we should be working together rather than acting like the autocrats who are destroying our nation. The Tea Party rose from patriotic, common sense people and continues in the spirit of civil discipline that will pcan rises above parRising

  • cacharlie

    is that Ann Coulter wasn’t trying to shove Romney down my.throat – not to mention other frantic recommendations from people I have counted upon for wise and principled references for problems and solutions in our nation’s best interests.
    I know I am not the only one out here who is well informed and experienced in successfully hiring worthy employees. In that regard, Governor Perry’s resume, presentation of himself and proposals for limiting government indicate he would be a fine nominee. It’s not that I know better than others – it’s just that we should be working together rather than acting like the autocrats who are destroying our nation. The Tea Party rose from patriotic, common sense people and continues in the spirit of civil discipline that will pcan rises above parRising

  • cacharlie

    like I was saying when I was so rudely interrupted by my own crazy key stroke . . . The Tea Party . . . will prove itself useful to preserving our nation eventually, and we will all be better off if it is sooner rather than later.