The Perry Campaign Has Reset and Refocused in South Carolina

languedoctor

There’s still time for Perry to take his recent anti-capitalist rhetoric to the other side and primary Obama.

Kidding! Well, sort of.

sunshinek67

My vote goes to Governor Perry.

irishgirl

way too early to count Perry out.

Lucas Black

The best way to reset the Perry campaign would be to swap out the candidate.

jakeofalltrades

2008 was a model for how a primary fight can be taken to all fifty states. All Perry needs to do is be the last NotRomney standing after Super Tuesday.

I am glad Perry is retooling for SC.

rams40

Looks like Perry supporters won’t rest until Romney is, indeed, inevitable.
As a conservative, I was excited when Perry entered the race. I was an instant supporter.
That said, I am disappointed by those who would rather cling to his corpse than unite around any other conservative candidate.
Reading this website lately is a lot like watching Weekend at Bernie’s

jakeofalltrades

I guess “corpse” doesn’t quite mean “dead”, now does it.

Don’t you hate it when extremely-recent history debunks your comment?

carolina

per a Sabato tweet – Perry and Newt MIGHT be added to the ballot on Friday, by order of the judge.

tonotisto

Erick, you’re killin’ me here.

Actually I get your prodding….

If I drank much, I’d be drinkin more. Maybe I’ll start.
Naw, back to prayer and fasting.

IMHO Perry/West 2012

mrsmwp

I am an avid Perry supporter however, they have the lousiest communication! Their is no communication through the website. Many have emailed to volunteer and never heard back. This has been going on since they put the site up back in August.

That being said, Thank God for Redstate. It is sometimes tough going to be a Perry supporter over at HotAir. I come here for a dose of optimism!

GO PERRY!!!!

jakeofalltrades

Judges don’t generally grant restraining orders to parties who aren’t going to win their lawsuit.

http://www.thehayride.com MacAoidh

I’m all ears.

texastaxpayer

HAPPINESS IS TAKING YOU WITH US BABY… RESISTANCE IS FUTILE JOIN US OR ROMNEY YOUR CHOICE!!!!!!

dpmapper

Santorum had the easier path to a surge, since GOP voters hadn’t already rejected him. Perry will have a harder time, since he needs to win BACK voters. Not saying it’s impossible, just being realistic.

http://www.baseballcrank.com Dan McLaughlin

Local market buys and local newsmakers? That was Perry’s strategy in Texas for 25 years. Amazing his longtime Texas consultants couldn’t think of that one.

nepanyrush

As Rush Limbaugh stated today on his radio show to a Perry supporter: “I’m not trying to disappoint you, but Perry is running an identical campaign against Romney as Gingrich is.” Rush then detailed this sick attack on free enterprise being principled spearheaded by Gingrich, but now also being used by Perry.

http://www.rushlimbaugh.com/daily/2012/01/10/perry_joins_the_mitt_bash

Between Gringrich and Perry, they will take down the Republican Party if they cannot win. I don’t think it is at all apart Gingrich winning, just destroying Romney. And I think Perry (and Redstate lead articles to some extent) is similarly “destroy Romney if I cannot win.” He has zero chance. He is at 1% in NH, 4 to 6% in SC, and 4% in Florida. But he is using his money to attack Bain capital and poison the General Election, just like Gingrich.

Fortunately, Rush Limbaugh, who until now has been bashing Romney and supporting Gingrich and Perry, has had enough with this blatant attacks on free enterprise. Read Rush’s front page article linked on Drudge:

http://www.rushlimbaugh.com/daily/2012/01/10/gingrich_goes_perot_on_romney

NeoKong

I guess the point of this chart is to show that mathematically nobody needs Iowa or New Hampshire to win technically.
The majority of the delegates are rewarded after the first primary contests and the Governor could still win the nomination if he stays in and wins a boat load of the other races.

However the chart Leon has presented earlier has shown that no nominee has ever been nominated without winning at least one or both in Iowa and New Hampshire.

Hmmmmm…….

I guess that Perry could lose the first few races and then go one to win the nomination but it would be the first time in many years.
I guess the question that needs to be answered is if he is that good.

I wish nothing but good luck for the Governor of the Great State of Texas.
Don’t mess with Texas.

rams40

Using the Perry logic, I guess we should all unite around the lowest-finishing conservative who doesn’t drop out after NH.

To be clear, Perry would be my first choice for nominee.

My last choice is Perry taking 5-15 percent away from the conservative closest to Romney and handing him South Carolina. That is much more likely than Perry winning. Am I wrong?

kharve3

If a national media buyer was pushed out, it is because one of the consultants weren’t getting a cut, but felt he earned it.

Whether a media buying firm (not a production firm) is local or national has nothing to do with the efficacy of the message. In my experience (over 10 years), the best media buying firms–fastest to buy time, best at getting time, and best at targeting–are all national firms.

A media consultant (the guy who writes, directs, edits) TV ads may have to be local sometimes….but the media buyer doesn’t. Trust me. Or not. Don’t care.

ceili_dancer

ALL YOUR BASE ARE BELONG TO US

http://www.thehayride.com MacAoidh

Because I’m not sure we have the same definition?

http://www.thehayride.com MacAoidh

Because I’m not sure we have the same definition.

texastaxpayer

????????????

tonotisto

There are some things we can learn from the Paulbots.

jonerik

In the case of Leon’s chart presented earlier, all of those races were under the old winner takes all primary system. This is the first cycle they are proportional so there’s no telling how much effect the new allocation plan will have on the race overall.

Republicans changed their system precisely so the nominee isn’t selected by the time only three relatively small states have voted.

veto

If neither Gingrich, Perry, or Santorum can capture the #3 spot in NH two better drop out before SC or it’s all over, a Romney sweep in the makings.

And don’t forget they’re a ton of people who will just vote for the winning candidate because they think they will be throwing their vote away. They will divide the vote in SC like they did Iowa and its over Romney takes Florida, 5 states in a roll.

Hooah_Mac

There are a lot of contests, and even after Super Tuesday it is mathematically impossible for anyone to have enough delegates to secure the nomination even discounting the proportional system this year. If Perry gets going again and wins TX, coupled with picking up some delegates in all the other contests, he could theoretically be pretty close to Romney, even if Romney does do as well as expected.

The reason that the nomination is always settled so early in modern times on the Republican side is that competitors generally drop out long before they have lost.

joeptak

PRESIDENT OBAMA WANTS TO WAGE CLASS WARFARE, AGAINST CONSERVATIVES AND THE GOP, THEN I HAPPEN TO READ WHERE MITT ROMNEY IS OUR BEST CHOICE, SO I ASK:

MITT ROMNEY could not beat John McCain last election and they call him our best choice?

MITT ROMNEY left office with a disapproval rating of 66% and they call him our best choice?

MITT ROMNEY has run as a LIBERAL, MODERATE, now he is trying to pass off as a CONSERVATIVE, and they call him our best choice?

MITT ROMNEY has Goldman Sachs as his biggest contributor, and they call him our best choice?

MITT ROMNEY was a draft dodger, and they call him our best choice?

MITT ROMNEY has flip-flopped on every major social issue, and they call him our best choice?

MITT ROMNEY passed Romneycare, supported Obamacare, and they call him our best choice?

MITT ROMNEY is worth $250 million and says he feels our pain, and they call him our best choice?

MITT ROMNEY keeps his money offshore to avoid taxes, and they call him our best choice?

MITT ROMNEY…TELL ME WHY HE IS OUR BEST CHOICE?

davidsongirl

The anti-Bain comments made me cringe.

Secondly, we brought a friend to hear him because he’s our top choice; she drove 3 hours to get there. The facility where he spoke at 10:45, Sun City, told us we were not allowed in. I called a campaign field staff person whom I knew, and they said it was open to the public but that we would be on the list as volunteers. The Sun City seniors were having none of that. A campaign security officer told them that yes, we were on the list of volunteers. We expressed concern about the number of other people who had seen the event in the paper or on news sites being turned away. No one on staff seemed to know what to do about that. The senior gentleman in charge of the event said they needed some people to “guard” the door so no one could come in. The Perry staff didn’t do much of anything but said it was a public event. Regardless, no one else cam e in who was not part of the facility, except for a young man in his twenties. The woman at the door desk said, “I’m going to take care of that, and ordered him out.” I’m so embarrassed for Gov. Perry, because I’m sure if he had known what was going on he would have corrected it, but this was a terrible public relations fiasco. It happened last summer in Rock Hill, too, with hundreds of people waiting and crowded into a space being told the Governor would speak to all of them, but only getting a wave. He’s a great candidate, but the staff on the ground there is killing him. Someone needs to be alerted.

BrendanW

His campaign is terrible. There is no reason he couldn’t have taken Iowa with a good campaign. His money advantage on Santorum and has lots of the same appeal.

One of the problems with the Rudy strategy (wait till later) is it demonstrates a lack of ability to play in small early states – raises legitimate concerns about candidates ability to execute a 50 state campaign in the general.

Our politics would be so much better if the election of president worked like it did when Washington thought it beneath him to campaign.

Vegas_Rick

candidate worth rallying around. Gingrich? Nope. Santorum? A big goivernment NO. Romney? He’ll only pretend to be conservative until Obama sends him packing. Huntsman? Second best conservative record to Perry’s and just about as popular, but I could support him if he gathers any steam.

Which “conservative” have you rallied to rams?

sunshinek67

Also, I usually agree with Rush on stuff (upthread), but my issue with Romney/Bain is that they took Government taxpayer funded bail out money and propped their pensions, while the folks they left high lost their retirement accounts.

I am not an economics minded professional, my field is sociology, isn’t this just bad optics in a year of high unemployment #’s & OWS?

Good for Governor Perry to reset. If he is in fact excluded from debates, I sure hope he has a massive townhall with exhaustive question and answer. He has been absolutely fantastic in these last debates, interjecting serious ideas and policy to the discussion in a relatively short amount of time. He can take it to Obama. Looks like his back recovery & national stage transition is over. He can do this~

texasdad

Why is it that the silliness that was Cain and Bachman, as well as Santorum and Gingrich knew how to use free media but Perry has yet to do so effectively? Since he entered around August, i’ve been waiting to see him in interviews to discuss in depth the issues affecting us and his vision on how to solve them. All candidates are on CNN, Fox, and MSNBC AT LEAST once a week, it seems like Perry is on once a month.. even his social media presence is horrible! He barely uses Twitter, Facebook, and this site RedState is better than his own campaign webpage in pushing his message, how crazy is that!! I’m a perry supporter but i am at my wits end.
I am a Finance Director in a city in South Texas and need the economy to improve, the border to be secure, A LOT LESS REGULATION, and the independence from foreign oil, yet the media is crafting Perry’s image instead of Perry doing it himself… Although I do love the fact that he is posting diaries. He just needs to post more of them in several conservative sites, to say the least: he has a lot of media errors to fix with very little time to do so. I made a campaign contribution today, my third one, and probably my last one if Perry doesn?t fix what should be a simple strategic error, his media communication/presence! Also, nothing major has happened for several months now.. no endorsements to get his name in the news, no major changes or positive momentum since his Iowa loss (although I was a believe that Iowa would change for the better), nothing?Did he really enter the presidential race this unprepared? Really? i just dont get it, how can he be doing this bad…

sunshinek67

nt

BrendanW

all the terrible populist messaging that I hate, but Obama will use it, so Romney better be ready to overcome it.

Some of those I don’t consider big issues:

1. Losing to McCain – Regan lost to Ford.
2. Leaving MA with a disprove record, I lived there at the time – if liberals didn’t like him he must have been doing something right.

Vegas_Rick

nt

joeptak

The RINO establishment GOP, or in other words the “GOOD OL’ BOYS,” are sticking a knife in the back of the CONSERVATIVES, the TEA PARTY MOVEMENT, and then double-crossing them…after they helped throw out the DEM’s in Congress last year!

The “GOOD OL’ BOYS” establishment, are intent on pushing draft dodger RINO ROMNEY. GOV. RICK PERRY enlisted during the Vietnam War. RICK PERRY will cover your back…we need to cover his. PERRY is definitely entitled to a second look…he has at least earned that much…from his service to our country.

The majority of the big WALL STREET FIRMS have invested their money in ROMNEY. That is all Americans will need to know about whose back ROMNEY will be covering. ROMNEY is a coward and blatant liar who pander’s to everyone…just so he can get their vote.

Lesstressrx

Let’s see how many people we can get to tweet Perry (https://twitter.com/#!/GovernorPerry) send him this http://www.rushlimbaugh.com/daily/2012/01/10/perry_joins_the_mitt_bash
& ask him to read the article from Rush Limbaugh then ask him to stop this madness.
That?s all you would have to say. Get enough tweeting him and maybe he will get back on the message of the economy and taking out Obama.
We must remember we have the power & we must use it. Let our voices be heard. We are his engines.

Samsara

From the transcript linked above:

RUSH: Folks, I realize this is serious out there, and at some point I may have to issue a fatwa to stop this. If I sense it’s really getting out of hand, of course I’ll take action.

I’m glad Mr. Limbaugh has things well in hand.

jakeofalltrades

that Reconstruction never finished, and the GOP needs to re-invade South Carolina.

For the children.

Scope

by the national media. Try watching Fox and you will see that they refuse to even mention his name. If the MSM, which includes Fox, refuse to acknowledge his existence, how is he supposed to get media attention? They’ve been more acceptable to Ron Paul on the media, as they know he has no chance at the nom. The media, both right and left, have already anointed Mitt Romney as the candidate.

thosjefferson

Perry’s anti-Romney attack in South Carolina is the final nail in his coffin, Erick. I can’t believe you’d want that message to prevail.

To use Gingrich’s rhetoric, the “fundamental” fallacy of this debate over 100,000 jobs, or net jobs, is that Bain generated hundreds of millions of dollars of wealth for its investors. What do you think happened to that money? They burned it?

The investors in turn spent and invested all that money. If you apply standard multiplier analysis to the impact of that new wealth, it created far more than 100,000 jobs.

Romney actually sells himself short by focusing solely on the jobs created or lost in the specific companies he invested in.

It’s like saying Steve Jobs only created 46,000 jobs because that’s how many people work at Apple. This ignores not only all the jobs at Apple’s suppliers, all the jobs at retailers who sell Apple products, etc., but all the jobs created from the billions of dollars Apple has invested in the markets, all the jobs created from the billions of dollars Apple has paid to its investors, and all the wealth created for shareholders through appreciation of its stock, etc.

It’s time for conservatives to start explaining the free enterprise system and basic economics to the voters, not to allow demagogues like Gingrich and Perry to further confuse the electorate as if they’re Obama’s advance men.

Please, Erick, wise up on this!

WA_Cowboy

we need a Perry bump in South Carolina.

Sorry, I don’t see any of the other candidates as being able to turn this ship around.

Promotes limited Federal Government and States’ rights – CHECK
Promotes traditional family values – CHECK
Promotes a secure border – CHECK
Has a record of fiscal restraint

Oh, yeah and his state has a net gain of 450,000 jobs since 2006, all under his watch.

No other candidate offers this.

Who would you rather have? a candidate who puts forth sound policy but occasionally misspeaks, or a candidate who rarely misspeaks but has a record of bad policy. The choice is yours GOP voters

trutexan

It was moved due to Dems whining about redistricting….again.

Lesstressrx

We can’t let the media & establishment choose our candidate. We must keep fighting. We the people that understand what’s going on must get our message out. We all have friends and family. Send positive messages to anyone about Perry. Send messages to him and his campaign to help keep him focused. This is called grassroots efforts.
Personally I don’t want “the Mitten” & I will fight till the end to save my country. Rick is our last chance.

texasdad

I can understand that, but what about Twitter or Facebook to shape his message? I do really enjoy him doing RedState diaries, he just needs to do more… I am not a political expert so I’m dumbfounded by his campaign… Aside from his bad media presence, where are all the friends political and non but whose names and influences would help him? Jindal is awsome and so is sheriff Joe, but, is that it after 10 years as a major state governor? As well as him carrying his faith on his sleeve, where are his major endorsements for that? I just don’t get how unprepared he seems… Maybe I am stressing that another GWBush will be elected and further destroyed the national debt burdening my children as well as the trickle down effect it will have on every local city’s budget/tax rates…

jakeofalltrades

He is running against Mitt’s job record, which, since Mitt was 47th/50 in job creation as governor, relies on his record in the private sector.

So, what was your role in private-sector job creation? Killing companies. So, not much role then.

buddyp

In today’s news:

Coming soon to cell phones near you: Mitt Romney?s ?I like being able to fire people? line thanks to the Rick Perry campaign who created a 12-second ringtone.
http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/politics/2012/01/perry-campaign-makes-romney-fire-people-ringtone/

This is Major League lame on at least 2 levels:

1. It’s grossly misleading, a case of truly taking something out of context to misrepresent what was conveyed by the speaker.

2. It’s left-wing, anti-capitalist garbage.

Now, I know Perry’s supporters will use the excuse that it’s justifiable — even good and important — to expose a supposed lack of electability of Romney (in the general election). That’s a cop-out. Not in every case, but in this case. Because this goes too far re: #1 and #2 above. It’s disingenuous, unethical, ideologically repugnant. (I’m not adding that it’s also harmful to a candidate who has a very good chance of being our nominee, because I assume the Dems would eventually do this anyway so that’s not as big a deal.)

So does anyone really think this move is defensible? Will any Perry supporter agree that it is quite lame?

Scope

It’s for the children. That one argument is non-partisan, as they both use the cause of our “most vulnerable.” The Democrats want to feed them only celery sticks and fruit cup, and that every single little being is equal. The R’s want them to not have to pay the debt the libs are forcing them to sign on the dotted line for, without reading the small print.

renl57

…then he can’t be anything but a spoiler after that. He won’t win, but he can siphon votes away from Santorum and Gingrich.

If Santorum or Gingrich have any hope of stopping Romney, they’ll need every vote they can get. In fact, they will need RedState’s endorsement too, and one of them should get it.

You want Perry to keep fighting? What’s your exit strategy? When do you call it quits?

Or do you want to set up a bruising fight at the convention, reminiscent of 1964–and give Obama a landslide re-election victory?

jakeofalltrades

Politics ain’t beanbag. Romney is a CINO and needs to be taken out immediately using whatever means are necessary.

jakeofalltrades

nt

texasdad

I am new at this so maybe I am wrong… But regardless of what we think, the media does shape the message.. the issue is how to use the media… Especially the free media… I check Twitter to see what new positive event for gleefully has taken place..and all I get from Perry is very general non motivating tweets once every 2-3 weeks… Not even mentioning the bad Facebook usage as well as his own campaign webpage… I just see the campaign as frustratingly amateur and I wish it would change… am I alone in thinking he is way off on this issue?

sunshinek67

flgal208

Because whomever is running the show here is MIA. Literally. I’m told his name is Jose Romano, but he’s in SC helping them. HELLOOOOOO, FL is three time bigger with a HUGE diversity that can’t be won or mobilized in a few short weeks. Our primary is in 3 weeks!!!

I understand SC is their Alamo, but one look at Huckabee/Santorum will tell you that surging in one state doesn’t mean much if there’s no mojo in the next…

Besides, Tampa, I can’t find ONE office anywhere else in the state. Yard signs need to be going up NOW. Volunteers need to be signed up NOW. Hanging door hangers need to be done NOW. Local ads need to be going out NOW. The FL for Perry FB page needs to be current and relevant NOW. Offices across the state need to be set up NOW.

Maybe he has GOV Scott ready to endorse him. And Col West. And Connie Mack. If so, then I would feel a whole lot better about FL, because those people are the movers AND Connie is going for Sen Bill Nelson’s (UGH) seat, so they could do a quid pro quo thing. Rubio…is a political opportunist, so UNLESS Perry WINS SC AND FNC/RNC/GOP ease up on the pro-Willard-is-our-only-choice-BS, I see him backing Willard. Why? Because Rubio was all for the AZ (& TX) illegal immigration push-back, UNTIL he ran for the senate, then he flip-flopped (afraid he would lose the Hispanic vote). That makes him suspect. But if Perry gets the other three (Lt GOV Jennifer Carroll is a good one, too), then Rubio won’t matter if he jumps the shark.

I sure hope I’m wrong about FL and there’s a flurry of stuff going on that can’t be seen and magically it all springs to life in the next few days…but if that life doesn’t sprout until after SC, we had all better start praying and HARD…(and if anyone knows anyone in Fl to get the scoop, please let us know!!!)

I WANT PERRY and will not give up!!!

flgal208

can’t get a response

boonerdan

“In the mean time, the Perry campaign took all of our concerns under advisement . . . ”

At least you are finally being open about your preference. A little late, but thank you.

thosjefferson

Talk about nuance… The Mass unemployment rate under Romney was far lower than under Perry. The rate while Romney was governor of Mass declined, while under Perry it rose substantially. You can’t create as many jobs when you’re closer to full employment.

Even Ron Paul knows how stupid Perry’s attacks are:

http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/politics/2012/01/abc-exclusive-ron-paul-defends-romney-lashes-out-at-his-critics/

Saying Romney’s job was “killing companies” is pure anti-capitalism. You can write it, but apparently you can’t understand it.

The amount of economic illiteracy among RedStaters is truly frightening.

jakeofalltrades

Perry won’t win Florida or South Carolina, but if he can pick up momentum, he can force out the other contenders and regain lost ground on Super Tuesday, aiming for a late win before the convention. That is Perry’s path to the nomination.

porkandcheese

“And the unqualified defense of the virtues of Bain Capital by some on the right is also silly. Criticism of any behavior by a private firm? Outrage! An Assault on Capitalism! Haven’t they read Schumpeter? Don’t they know the glories of Creative Destruction? And, of course, all such destruction must be assumed to be creative!”

You can — maybe — defend Bain, but you’ll have a hard time selling it in the general when Obama unloads on Romney. It will make the Senate campaign against Kennedy look like a stroll in the park. Run Romney as the nominee, and the second coming of Reagan will be named Barack Hussein Obama II.

Scope

I’m shocked, I’m appalled, and I’m just downright disgusted that Gov. Perry would do such a varmint level thing to Romney, the vulture. A ringtone, holy crap, how can anyone be so disgusting. But it was OK for Romney to capet-bomb Perry with sending postcards telling the Floridans that Perry wanted to take their SS away from them. It was OK for Romney to paint Perry as an amnesty supporter, when Romney in fact is an amnesty supporter, and as Gov. pumped money into keeping sanctuary cites alive and well.

Geez, get a grip Romneybot.

thosjefferson

Rush noted that Gingrich has gone Perot, but Perry’s doing the same thing.

http://www.rushlimbaugh.com/daily/2012/01/10/gingrich_goes_perot_on_romney

cheetah2

However if one of the other “not Perry” candidates is that good, they can beat Romney even if Perry does not drop out. Santorum came close in Iowa.

I just don’t get this obsession with prying away Perry’s supporters from him.

texasdad

I believe it is fair game… Mitt said he knows how to create jobs, ok, explain the vulture like activities.. just like in a court of law, some things are off limits unless you yourself bring them up… Also, where was this “outrage” when Perry was being hit on social security remarks (which is a ponzi scheme) and the illegal alien talk? States have to educate them and provide for them due to supreme court rulings… Where was your outrage then? Also, isn’t capital venture Gorden Geko vulture-like? Kind of people with money being the bully to those that don’t have as much…

jakeofalltrades

RichmondG30

about how jobs are actually created.

First, I am NOT a Romney fan. I have bounced from Bachmann, to Perry, to Cain, and now am even considering Huntsman! Romney is a serial flip-flopper and I just do not like the guy. I am pulling for Perry to fire his staff and take another serious run at the nomination.

HOWEVER, his diatribe on Megyn Kelly’s show this morning had me ready to throw my coffee cup at the TV. Going on and on about the number of jobs mitt Romney killed in Gaffney, South Carolina was infuriating.

Does the “Jobs Governor” not understand that in a healthy, capitalistic society inefficient companies fail and jobs are destroyed. The resources from that failed enterprise are redirected and reinvested in more efficient companies through the process of creative destruction. Overall, however, society as a whole is better off.

Someone please give Governor Perry a basic economics lesson so he doesn’t sound so much like an Obama surrogate. Sheesh.

WA_Cowboy

that the perry camp ditched the ringtone. read it this morning. yahoo news.

renl57

…is even worse.

Perry said:

“Rather than trying to restructure and to keep the jobs in South Carolina, they [Bain] were more interested in making their quick buck. That’s the Wall Street mentality, ethics kind of get thrown out the door.
“They’re just vultures. They’re vultures that sitting out there on the tree limb waiting for the company to get sick and then they swoop in, they eat the carcass. They leave with that and they leave the skeleton….
“We can have our disagreements, but the fact is that Americans are sick and tired of Wall Street taking main street to the cleaners.”

Read more: http://politics.blogs.foxnews.com/2012/01/10/perry-romney-acted-vulture-while-bain-capital

So Romney was a corporate “vulture” that fed off corpses? Romney took Main Street to the cleaners?

Who’s writing Perry’s material these days, the Occupy protesters? Keith Olbermann?

Paul Krugman wrote a column about Romney last week, and even he didn’t say anything that harsh.

Congratulations, Governor Perry, keep it up and the Occupy protesters will cheer you all the way to the GOP convention.

buddyp

You seem to be making contradictory arguments.

On the one hand, you are claiming it’s appropriate (“fair game”), although you don’t offer any reasoning (other than perhaps the implication that anything in politics is fair game — so there is supposedly no such thing as anything unethical in a political campaign or unacceptably contrary to conservative principles).

But you then assert, at least implicitly, that appropriateness is not a concern, since any means justifies the end of defeating Romney.

In any case, I’m guessing there is no reasoning with you on this, given your latter assertion.

texasdad

Good one Scope! I find it interesting that Mitt’s people are reacting like this is hoooooorrriiibblllee…. This is big boy politics, right????

sunshinek67

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Scope

Perry can siphon enough votes away from Santorum and Gingrich to win the conservative alternative to Romney spot. Glad you finally recognized that fact.

Yes, yes, a large majority have in fact endorsed Perry. There were a few that opposed, or didn’t sign on, but they are in the minority.

When do you call it quits? When Perry takes the nomination.

sunshinek67

until he runs into a Texas wall in April

WA_Cowboy

correction read it here at redstate:
http://www.redstate.com/dan_mclaughlin/2012/01/10/on-romney-bain-and-keeping-your-integrity/

circlegranch

and thanks to talk radio and cable news rants all day, one seems to be confused with the other.

Wall Street is full of capitalists that are as far from being conservatives as any Democrat you know. Overwhelmingly, they all voted for Obama in droves. John Corzine is a capitalist. Is he a conservative too?

The definition of capitalism, as we’ve been schooled today, means if you agree with free markets then by association you must be a rock-rib conservative. According to lots of talking heads today, capitalistic companies that wheel and deal and hire and fire, do so only in the name of conservatism.

A relative of mine was a manager in a small bank for many years. Thanks to Dodd-Frank, that bank could not survive regulatory requirements and was forced to close. The bank was quickly purchased by a large national bank conglomerate. The small bank closed one day, the new owners were on site the next morning. 3/4 of the work force was fired on the spot and told to leave. No job performance evaluations, no consideration for years of service, nothing but an escort out the door by armed security. Was it their fault they were fired? At the close of the business day, 34 people were unemployed, 16 more were kept on to ‘help with the transition’. As the ensuing 5 weeks unfolded, each Friday, another couple of people were told not to come back on Monday. Little by little everyone was deleted. As positions were deleted, the openings for same were posted. Exisiting employees and those recently fired filled out applications because they believed they were the most qualified. After all, they knew the customer base, the businesses served. Some were granted short phone interviews from ‘corporate’ but only the small handful that applied for the bank manager position actually got sit-down interviews. Not one person from the original team was hired by the new owners.

Today, Limbaugh supported Romney’s “I like to fire people” by saying it applied to people not doing a good job. Nobody would argue with that. He went on to imply, however, that when a small business or organization is bought by a large company, incompetent people are fired and that’s o.k. Yes, it is o.k. But in the case of these 2 companies in question that Romney’s firm fired many people from, one would have to assume that in the mix, there were innocent, hardworking, valuable people let go simply because the new owners already had workers lined up. Is it the way of the corporate, free market world? Yes. Is it o.k. to buy a company and then be able to fire everyone regardless of performance or loyal years of service to that company? Your call.

WA_Cowboy

the hypocrisy of Romney

cheetah2

WE Perry patriots must remain unrepentant! that Romney, what a vulture.

rams40

They’re going to speak again tonight. Perry is done.

The only question is whether the support he does take away from another conservative will allow Romney to win. Probably not tonight, but could be a real possibility in SC.

dansvan

My opinion is that having Santorum or Gingrich “stop” Romney is not going to get us where we need to be, which is having a true Tea-Party conservative governor with the record to back it up as the nominee.

Governor Perry is the ONLY candidate who has all the qualifications necessary to be a great President. I’m not ready to give up on him, and I’m frustrated that people are willing to settle for Santorum, Gingrich, Huntsman, Paul, OR Romney.

The only reason Perry isn’t still leading is that the MSM has told you he can’t win. If people will stop listening to lies, and get the facts on Perry, he is a shoo-in. I just can’t believe how gullible people can be. It’s like they are sheep!

WA_Cowboy

you’d rather have a candidate with a quick tongue and bad policy?

texashistorian

even a week out from Iowa showed he was rejected, and had been from the moment he got in the race. The only difference was he never enjoyed time as a so-called “frontrunner.” Santorum got a second look here, because it isn’t like most people didn’t know he was in the race unlike, say, Buddy Roemer or Gary Johnson. He was at all the debates, and just didn’t fire anyone up until a week out from the Iowa caucuses.

Scope

but they don’t need a private equity firm to help them fail after they have stripped the carcas after they take their profits from the company first. If a company fails all on it’s own, and goes through a normal bankruptcy proceeding, their assets are taken by the bankruptcy court in order to pay the creditors and/or other legal obligations. The Bain type of companies strip the assets first, and then let the carcas file for bankruptcy where the bankruptcy court has nothing to seize to pay any obligations. Those with pension plans leave that obligation up to the federal government, taxpayer money, to pony up that pension money.

jakeofalltrades

The only thing that should drop out is your detestation of Perry and voter choice.

cheetah2

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texasdad

Perry is not really a republican, I don’t think… I believe he is a fiscal conservative, more of the tea party mold…. I don’t think he is trying. to be 100% on the republican talking points… It’s an issue of fairness.. should the big guy really be a bully? At what pount is it unfair for those that have to take from those that have not? In essence, the “vultures” are the bullies… No?

txteach

- this is not what you want to use for a Perry resurgence. While it is a great part of Texas history because of the bravery & valor of the men who defended the Alamo, it was a loss of huge proportions. What we want for Perry is San Jacinto – where the Texans surprised and routed the Mexican Army.

jakeofalltrades

Moving on…

rams40

It was confusing to read this website after Iowa, until I remembered that Perry announced his campaign at a RedState gathering.

I appreciate their loyalty, but it may kill any chance for any other conservative to defeat Romney.

buddyp

“Romneybot”?

Yeah, anyone who expresses an opinion that a candidate was unfairly attacked must be a disingenuous or hopelessly biased shill for that candidate. Probably you’re just projecting.

Although Romney and Huntsman are my top two, I’ve said extremely harsh things about Romney here on RS, being quite open about Romney being a shameless, insincere, opportunistic flip-flopping panderer http://www.redstate.com/kowalski/2011/12/20/im-endorsing-three-candidates/#comment-1061 and I’ve also offered up what I think would be a strong overall message for Perry to deliver and emphasize even though I don’t favor Perry

So no, I’m perhaps a rare bird on political blogs. I call ‘em as I see ‘em, with a real effort to be objective.

Obviously (or so one would think) the point isn’t that an attack via ringtone is disgusting. The point is that it was wrong for reasons I gave quite clearly. If you want to address those arguments, feel free.

Instead, all you say is essentially “It’s just a ringtone” and “Romney did misleading stuff”, as if that’s a defense of Perry doing so — and attacking from the left, as opposed to Romney attacking from the right in your examples.

jakeofalltrades

circlegranch

Get the connection?

Perry’s finish in IA wasn’t lack of ground game, advertising or pressing the flesh. It was because he went up against the powerful ethanol industry. www.iowansfueledwithpride.com

Santorum, Gingrich and Romney are big supporters of the ethanol industries, subsidies and the groups that lobby for them. Do the math.

aesthete

If, in your opinion, Bain Capital’s contribution can be characterized as “help[ing] them fail after they have stripped the carcas [sic] after they take their profits from the company first”, then how is it that they’re still in business? Don’t you think that the board of directors is smart enough that they wouldn’t sell the corporation for less than what its salable assets are worth? That is far from a reasonable description of Bain Capital’s function.

buddyp

…this link (URL) to the my aforementioned suggested message for Perry
http://www.redstate.com/buddyp/2012/01/04/perry-needs-a-total-package-message/

texashistorian

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/All_your_base_are_belong_to_us

It appeals to a certain demographic (one which I am, sadly).

trevorb

it may have been a brave last stand, but it was a last stand. I’m hoping for something like the Battle of Midway, so to speak.

sunshinek67

the SC debate criteria for participation. Perry’s 5th place Iowa results are going to keep him out, if I’m reading it right. There is other criteria, average of polling. I think poll results are skewed to a degree. Media doesn’t want Perry in this race, to be sure.

Scope

he is so disgusting how could anyone support him. Yet you freakin’ support and pump up Gingrich who has had much more to say about the vulturism of Romney. It’s OK if your guy says it, and takes it to every extreme, but, that bad Perry guy is a total loser.

renl- You have proven to be such a candidate hack job it’s sickening. You have lost, long ago, any credibility in what you say, simply because it’s OK for your candidate to say things, even to the extreme, but Perry is a total idiot.

You are going to have to start to get a little more consistent with your opinions/posts that reflect reality rather than your desires to retain any ounce of credibility here, if that’s possible. Get your heels undug from that mud patch.

buddyp

…perhaps on both levels I asserted.

RichmondG30

No company is forced at gunpoint to take Bain’s money. Companies often wind up at Bain’s doorstep because banks and the bond market have decided that their chances of success are too low to justify investment (i.e. they are doomed to fail). Private equity companies accept a much higher level of risk, and as a result demand a much higher level of return.

What nobody is talking about is the hundreds of businesses who take private equity money and fail and the private equity firm gets nothing in return.

My point is that we have Barack and Michelle Obama to demonize the free market. We don’t need Newt Gingrich and Rick Perry too.

haners

The guy is a contrarian shill

jakeofalltrades

Quite simply, Bain is on the wrong side of the job-creation cycle.

Scope

He said that the voters are already tired of this primary season, and just want to move on with a candidate. John King said, incredously that the season has just started. The panel of 4 laughed at that EE position. So EE wants the season over now, as he says the voters are sick of this year long already campaign season and just want the candidate now. WOW WOW WOW

buddyp

ceili_dancer

with your eyes closed and the condescending/smug tone of voice. Better luck next time and try again.

LoneStarSon

However, if the Supreme Court issues a ruling very quickly, it could be switched back to March 6, 2012…according to Texas AG Greg Abbott in an interview on WBAP 820.

aesthete

Given all that he’s said about the war in Iraq, the Arab Spring, and Bush’s presidency in general, I don’t see how he still has credibility on much of anything.

jakeofalltrades

Scope

in a Weekly Standard article I just read today. Romney has been using his time at Bain as proof of him being a “job creator.” He can’t use his position as a job creator as Gov. of Mass, as he was 47th in that category as Gov. Because this is an economy, and jobs election, Romney has to depend on his Bain days as a job creator. As a result, he has brought the media attention onto Bain by taking that position. He himself has caused the scrutiny of his time at Bain. Not to mention the articles saying that he is still collecting checks from Bain, even after he has left the organization.

texashistorian

we’ll get a San Jacinto like you said, or a Goliad!

pennsylvaniafarmer

I thought a retool was going to require the removal of top staff. Has that happened?

I can understand wishful thinking if you’re a Perry supporter, but this is way over the top.

Perry has thrown everything but the kitchen sink at the base so far, and little has stuck. In doing so, he’s made himself an unelectable general election candidate. It didn’t have to be this way, but his early fumbles led to desperation and from there to extremism.

He went from being a pragmatic, results oriented governor, with arguably the best record in the nation, to a guy taking aim at everything from Social Security to federal funding for free and reduced school lunches. It’s sad. It’s also very similar to what we’ve gotten from Mitt, realize it or not.

The difference is that Romney at least has a shot in November.

Here’s hoping that Huntsman breaks 20% tonight. Then we might have someone who can actually make the conservative case *and* beat Obama.

repvoter

For e-mail alerts and to volunteer in Florida. Still no response.

buddyp

In general, although there are legal constraints and I believe ethical constraints as well, I firmly believe that (to borrow from a movie villain) “Greed, for lack of a better word, is good. Greed works.”

Businesses are not make-work programs. If a business has inefficiencies (e.g., excess personnel) that can be reduced to achieve greater ROI, and even if a business can be dismantled and its resources put to more productive use (“creative destruction”), in the end that dynamism of capitalism is what has and will continue to generate higher standards of living for the vast majority of Americans and others in the world.

So should a business maintain, say, 10% more personnel than would be ideal from an investment standpoint? No. Lay off those people. Redeploy the capital that would have gone to them (to invest in the business, or distribute as dividends to investors who will then find better uses for it, etc.), and those who are laid off will eventually find jobs in which their labor economically justifies their compensation. Sounds cold, but that’s how capitalism works.

jakeofalltrades

lol

porkandcheese

Got anything bad to say about them? Seems we’re having a purity purge. Pretty soon you’ll be left with 23% of the base pulling for Romney in the general. No wonder the Democrats want to run against him so bad.

1bunny

look me up on twitter there is a whole #perryposse on there. All kinds of people who work for Perry plus his son Griff tweet all day and us supporters help too We tweet about Perry and pass along video and stills of him at his campaign events. A study came out reecently that said Perry has a more active social media more than the other candidates (well Newt did buy his twitter followers). 1bunny4T

Lesstressrx

Touche

jakeofalltrades

The public, though, hasn’t even committed to their candidates yet.

Because the public hasn’t involved itself yet.

This is why PERRY NEEDS TO GO TO 50 STATES.

Most people don’t even know who he is yet, and they don’t get informed until right before they vote.

buddyp

I’ve seen it several times since joining RS. I know it’s the handle of a commenter, but what is a “kowalski”?

aesthete

Pointing out that he’s an idiot who’s been wrong on most every major issue of significance is no more a purge of the base than criticizing Ron Paul for being an inconsequential fool with troublesome associations is a purge of libertarians.

Oh, yeah, I’m not a Romney supporter, either.

jakeofalltrades

Basically, a kowalski is when you reply to yourself.

But it is so much more than that. It is art.

The Art of kowalski has several ascending forms.

The first form is when you reply to yourself.

In the second form, you reply to your reply.

In the third and highest form, that second reply is a self-deprecating or witty joke.

aesthete

In the Schumpeterian creative destruction cycle, Bain is definitely more on the destruction part of that equation than the “creative” part.

maybenexttime

Nothing else really needs to be said about that.

Scope

your thumb is usually on the pulse of thoughts/opinions.

buddyp

Seems like it requires many years of rigorous training. I suppose there is some form of blissful enlightenment that accompanies mastery at the highest level.

Or maybe one receives something in return through some metaphysical but inescapable force…”kowalskarma”?

Thanks for the explanation.

carolina

Will they pass along the info?

citizenkh

I knew in August that Iowa would be tough for Perry. The problem is not even “Big Ethanol” but all the farmers. Remember that each ethanol plant is actually majority owned by local farmers in order to get the state subsidy. It matters little who built it, and runs it, as to actual ownership of the physical plant.

Also remember that preachers have something called a collection basket. Do you think for one second that they are going to upset their congregations?

jakeofalltrades

But such an electorate would not need a government.

Scope

to how many people it takes to screw in a lightbulb, or how many comments it takes to get your point across. Sorry, no offense to those that are offended by polish jokes. The blond jokes are even better.

jakeofalltrades

I spend all day declaring things to be, in the shortest possible syntax. That’s probably leaking through.

I also have a law degree and know how to go on for 50 pages with 300 citations, if you prefer, but no one does. I’m saving that mode for my diaries, once I start them.

As for having my pulse on people – you can tell people aren’t getting educated until right before they vote because Santorum had a meteoric rise in two weeks. The word psychology uses to describe a change in behavior is “learning”. They became more informed right before they voted.

tyman

I think it’s way more complicated than that.

At some point, the other candidates will run out of money and Perry will become THE anti-Romney.

I think that the more steam Romney appears to gather, the more conservatives will see that Romney has to be beaten.

So far, Perry is the only one to have really rattled Romney in a debate and I don’t think Romney wants to run against Perry’s record as governor.

mccoypauley

Early state wins lead to fundraising bumps. By all accounts, everyone’s campaign is starting to run dry except Romney’s.

Romney might be able to win this due to having enough capital to compete through 50 states and the convention. All he has to do is outlast everyone else, and then donate to the right party officials.

Voila, nomination.

quiensabe

Mitt Romney has thrown out plenty of trash, to both Newt and Rick Perry. I have personally been on the receiving end of losing a job because a company, like Bain, came in and closed it down for profit. Real people lost jobs, income, houses, cars and suffered financial loss. The best severance anyone got was a “thank you”. I am not against capitalism and profit but I am against companies, like Bain, being so callous to the people who have worked for these companies. Real people, real hardship not just a employee number.

jakeofalltrades

As long as Perry hangs on.

mccoypauley

that “innocent people” lost their jobs?

Look, when a firm is going down, you have to reorganize it or lose it completely, and that usually means re-allocating labor resources because that is typically a large overhead, and something that can be done quickly.

It is harder to sell specialized equipment, land or IP than it is to lay off 10,000 people.

I don’t think Perry is an anti-capitalist, I just think he is economically ignorant. If he understood economics, he would have told his advisors this was crappy messaging.

Mitt’s weakness is his lack of trust. Beating him up for being a successful businessman and capital allocator is really poor. How does Perry expect to cut government if he isn’t going to fire a lot of “innocent” people?

Perry’s problem is that his campaign has no “there, there”. It looks like 90% of his support is RedState and EE. There is no message, no vision. Really poor communication.

When things like this come up, he needs to hit a homerun and defend Romney not pile on with Progressive Newt.

mccoypauley

a left winger with that rhetoric.

Greed is good. Without it, no one could act in their rational self interest.

Mitt may or may not have created jobs, but by reorganizing those businesses, he SAVED JOBS.

Watch and learn
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MfL7STmWZ1c

http://www.examiner.com/x-1597-Charlotte-Law--Politics-Examiner Mike gamecock DeVine

because the owners chose to sell it off.

maybenexttime

The Anti-Romney wing will become nearly irrelevant if Mitt takes South Carolina. Ironically, the Anti-Romney movement’s lack of consolidation seems to be making that task easier for the guy right now.

The Republican establishment wants to put this thing to bed early, and SC is precisely the place that will do that. Just look at McCain in 2000. The GOP machinery wanted GWB as the nominee, and McCain found out just how willing SC voters were to accomodate that goal.

Perry can spend all the money he wants. The establishment has already begun Romney’s coronation and nobody else in the field has the wherewithall to stop it.

Scope

It would be much more sociology that would describe the movement of the masses. And we have had a very large degree of propagandizing in this election season, most likely bought and paid for. Never fails to amaze me, the sheeple continue to look for the blood of their own demise, just like a vampire who sucks the blood of a leper.

mccoypauley

Until everyone lost their job and nobody made money.

Yes, it sucks losing your job. That’s why you need to strive for financial independence. If you rely on other people for a job, don’t be surprised when they make decisions that don’t involve promoting your well being at the expense of theirs.

maybenexttime

Perry is vastly out-gunned, pure and simple. If there’s a San Jacinto waiting for him somewhere, it won’t happen until 2016.

jakeofalltrades

I like it.

onemovoter

to have it’s primary April 3rd because then it would be winner take all. Texas itself would put the winner, if they were behind, right up with the rest of those who have been leading up to that point.

155 del. would be huge really at that point. Just don’t know if having it later would be better or not after super Tuesday. It’s a double edge sword.

aesthete

People on here are acting like firing people, or companies going bankrupt, either doesn’t happen, or only happens to bad people. Cutting government will entail firing people. Curbing government union power is being done partly because firing employees or re-negotiating their contracts is impossible at this juncture, and is causing some real problems. Conservatives rightly criticized Obama for subsidizing GM through a problem of its own making, and for TARP: do bankers and automakers not have families, and real lives? The choices for a failing corp are bankruptcy, restructuring, or propping it up. Which do you choose, knowing that the last option produces no value and is typically done long-term on the taxpayer’s dime?

flgal208

because I’m not giving up until Perry is inaugurated in Jan 2013 as the POTUS.

Right now, Fox is the enemy. I used to have them on 24/7, but they are worse than the MSM for Obama, which makes them the biggest hypocrites of all time!!! I only like Eric Bolling and Neil Cavuto, those two (the money guys) are NOT on the Willard BAD wagon (no music there)…

Scope

face it and get over it buddyup. There are plenty that have major problems with Romney, and, the capitalist thingy is the smallest part of those problems. If you, and he, can’t take the criticism, get out of the frying pan. I promise, Obama will be much more harsh with him, and his crony capitalism will be the smallest part of it. Romney can’t take the fire from his own side, how in the heck will he take full on frontal blows from the incumbent? He can’t.

http://www.changeforrickperry.org louisianapatriette

I watched Saturday’s debate yesterday on my grandmother’s DVR and it was so depressing…although Perry did great with the time they gave him, he just stood there most of the time listening. Campaigning in South Carolina will be time much better spent than standing on a stage listening to Ron Paul gushing over Iran’s right to have nukes or watching Mitt and Newt have a cat fight…and not getting a word in edgewise unless he actually interrupts.

Let them have the most boring debates in the history of the Union. Rick Perry can spend that time doing what he does best: retail politics.

flgal208

because being the last man standing by virtue of money and not the WILL of the people, guarantees a BO win. It’s that simple. The Pub nominee MUST fire up the base, it’s who’s going to campaign for him, hold signs along roads, make phone calls, knock on doors…you need to have BELIEF and DESIRE in you to do that…after 10 years of campaigning for POTUS, Willad still can’t get above 30 and that says it all…now, Perry could catch fire and be the one that stirs people or Newt, those are the only two with some passion inside them…The only problem with Newt besides his baggage is his looks—it’s what hurt McCain with the dumb youth…

jakeofalltrades

I hope his campaign has them.

http://www.changeforrickperry.org louisianapatriette

Good thing I wore my Texas T-shirt today with “Come and Take It” on the back

greyeagle

is NOT anti-capitalist. Corporate raiders are hardly a true capitalist. They lay people off like Romney and his Bain Capital. A true capitalist creates jobs and puts people to work.

scott88

Nt

trevorb

though, I believe the nominee is ultimately going to be Mitt Romney. Perry can last at least until South Carolina and probably Florida, but even though I support him, I find it unlikely that he’s going to win.

jakeofalltrades

Which explains why Ronulans get confused and wander in here.

http://www.changeforrickperry.org louisianapatriette

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greyeagle

I agree with you. The Perry campaign needs to get another office running here. (One is in Tallahassee) Need one in the center of the state so signs can get up and staffing. He was my Governor before moving to Fl. He is really a good person and does a wonderful job in Texas.

http://www.hakubi.us/ Neil Stevens

Erick gets accused of that all the time.

greyeagle

Go look on the rickperryreport.com There are positive articles and videos of Rick Perry on the campaign trail. It is very enlightening.

conservativemusician

As much as the Ronulans wish it could be.

greyeagle

How many jobs were lost? Apparently there have been a lot.

flagg

After cutting off television coverage of the NH primary for the night, I decided to check in here, jokingly expecting to see a post about how Perry now had Romney right where he wanted him.

And there it was, from the big guy himself!

It’s mind-numbing to me how people can just brush off Perry’s gaffes, poll numbers, and obviously disastrous general election moments, like advocating for sending troops back to Iraq. You can’t get any momentum when the candidate is giving that kind of headwind to his own campaign.

Perry’s toast. So is everyone else not named “Mitt Romney”. But Perry is really, really toast, and the Perry brand would best be served by a gentleman’s withdrawal, not the slash-and-burn campaign Newt is going to run (because this is Newt’s last hurrah) nor the long slog of defeats his “supporters” here seemingly want to see him suffer.

jakeofalltrades

greyeagle

Perry is plain spoken and grew up in west texas, which is flat, some desert and prairie. He is going to use some terms and symbolism of that type of setting to paint a picture. Using vulture, skeletons etc. to convey someone or something who preys on others. I thought it was effective.

http://908StraightSt.wordpress.com/ mbecker908

it’s now Stupidstate.com

jfree

which also links to Perry Report http://www.facebook.com/PerryAlmanac

Here are the network embeds following Gov. Perry:
ArletteSaenz Arlette Saenz
RT @byjayroot Perry embeds, @byjayroot @CarrieNBCNews @ArletteSaenz @pelirojito @Rebecca_CBSNJ,

jfree

which also links to Perry Report http://www.facebook.com/PerryAlmanac

Here are the network embeds tweeting Gov. Perry:
ArletteSaenz Arlette Saenz
RT @byjayroot Perry embeds, @byjayroot @CarrieNBCNews @ArletteSaenz @pelirojito @Rebecca_CBSNJ,

keepithonest

The people are always short changed in this country by having some of the smallest and more liberal states decide who is going to win the nomination
Letting the MSM and others clamour for candidates to get out really annoys me (especially Fox). A little bit of push back is required here from all of the candidates.

It is about time all of the states get to choose amomg all of the candidates if possible.

I say to all of the candidates, state your case and don’t necessarily jump on the bandwagon when someone decides to take things out of context. Especially Gov. Perry. Let others do that. It is important that you keep that great sense of humor on display.

Compare and contrast – Let’s not make it personal. The other side of will do plenty of that.

Keep it honest and God Speed.

conservativemusician

n/t

sunshinek67

I hope Perry holds a huge South Carolina townhall with an exhaustive question & answer. It would have some media attention on it’s own. Did you see my tweet? On the heels of two smashing win/wins for Romney, now would be a great time for Amy Kremer & her Tea Party express to derail, “Governor Perry…..”

racetraitor

On the prayer and fasting, that is. I really believe that if enough people will pray and fast, that Perry will win this thing.

vangoghssister

Is it possible to tweet something about the problems with the rickperry.org web site? There is a lot of frustration out there and it truly does need a major overhaul.

p.s. aren’t you an Okie? Me too!

jakeofalltrades

I don’t use twitter though. Haven’t caught on to it yet.

daveoconnor

Re: the ring tone. Never forget Gov Perry was a Democrat and they DO know how to fight dirty. I’ve written positively about Perry, but the one time I wrote a negative piece (after the infamous mind cramp) I was accused of this and that, none of which had to do with my point that Perry had badly hurt himself. There are Perry supporters here who take any attack on him as personal. I think Rick Perry is probably an ace guy. His record is good. Before he announced I thought he would be terrific. Well, he hasn’t been. That could change, but it’s up to him. I like Jon Huntsman, but wouldn’t think of blaming Perry supporters, Redstaters or the man in the moon for his mediocre start. Huntsman, like Perry, is a big boy.

http://www.hakubi.us/ Neil Stevens

It’s not a one off thing either.

texasdad

I will look at Twitter, cause I’m hoping that’s better than the web.. its so simple and FREE to use the web, I’m frustrated at his lack of maximing that tool…should we get mad at griffen cause he is younger and should b a pro at this social media stuff?? What’s the difference between @PerryPosse and #PerryPosse? I’m new to this…

chieftain

kepithonest,
Well said. I believe that this stacking the deck in favor of Iowa & NH is fall out from campaign finance laws. The fund raising aspects of national political campaigns make it hard to survive past Iowa & NH unless there is a good showing in these two states. This is a big country and the current system disenfranchises most Americans. In the old days a few backers could bankroll a candidate to continue past the early states and make the later primaries meaningful. All the more reason why campaign spending limits on free speech should be repealed. i look forward to aday when my primary vote will again count.

http://www.writeinryan.com ragnarthepirate

Write in Paul Ryan for President

trickamsterdam

Keep Romney from getting 50% of the delegates. W/ the new rules this year, it may be possible.

Then you get a brokered convention.

Paul Ryan is the most logical selection to come out of that…he’s a legitimate bridge between the Tea Party and the Establishment.

But worst case, I don’t think it really hurts Romney too bad…in fact, it may keep Democratic Ads off his back, until after the convention (if he ends up having enough power to be the nominee anyway).

So…why not? That’s my question.

conservnca

Is it being a capitalist to pay for people’s campaigns in 2010 so you would have their endorsement in 2012. Mitt made sure in FL.,S.C. and probably Iowa(not sure) that he stacked the deck. So much for running on your record. So much for endorsements because you believe in the candidate. I guess that is Mitt being a capitalist also. Yeah, a crony capitalist. Pay to Play. It’s scary to think of how much he invested in Marco Rubio’s campaign. I remember when he was running and how Mitt was praised for supporting Rubio. Should we ask Pam Bondi if it’s worth it. I just pray he didn’t get to Rick Scott or Allen West. Character matters.Nikki Haley was elected because of the tea party. She has now turned her back on them and supported Romney who stands for everything she ran against. He invested money to her campaign also. I don’t think Romney is worried if he is playing fair. I guess it is not an exaggeration when it’s said he really has been campaigning for 6 years.

ctredstater

As I have watched this whole thing unfold, it is like watching a slow motion car accident and being unable to do anything to prevent it.

It has been a perfect storm. Perry got in late, without the heavy policy stuff ready to go. Pain from back surgery. Some early flubs.

it is not that the media has blacked him out. they LOVE to cover him when there is something negative.

the worst is that the Big Three (Rush, Sean, Mark) have been nowhere to be found – defending Herman Cain as if they were hired defense attorneys – but when it came to even presenting the other side of the Perry story – crickets chirping.

for me – bottom line is that 98%+ of the delegates have yet to be chosen. I remember well the Kennedy/Carter 1980, Reagan/Ford in 1976 – battles in which it was well into the season before there was a comeback.

I pray that Governor Perry can get even a modest breakthrough in SC – and that the financial carnage will have it down to Romney, Perry and Gingrich (with Paul ankle-biting off in the corner) for Super Tuesday.

It would be a shame if the vast majority of Republicans were shut out of this process. This is too important to let the media pick the one candidate they know is easiest for them and Obama to chew up.

Go Perry Go!

ctredstater

nt

pj2012

talking about “Vulture Capitalism” etc..

As of tonight Perry has 4 delegates according to CNN, Romney 23, Paul, 10, Santorum 8, Gingrich 3, Huntsman 2

Not bad for Perry… all things considered.

cbartlett

Fox is getting worse about the “in the tank for Romney”. Nauseating. SO tired of it.

mccoypauley

is a democratic myth told to school children.

Politics is money and power. Your vote isn’t worth as much as Chris Christie’s vote, or Sarah Palin’s vote. It isn’t as valuable as Nancy Pelosi’s vote or Newt Gingrich’s vote.

That’s an unfortunate fact.

“The only problem with Newt besides his baggage is his looks”

I laughed out loud. You forgot about his political positions.

1bunny

from your computer too. I am fairly new at it but I started tweeting to support Perry. So much info is available and it so quickly gets passed around on twitter. I find stuff on twitter that I post on other sites it has been very helpful in my support of Perry. @ is a person or group or business etc (like myself-@1bunny4T) the # is so you can look up that word and find others who use it. So if you use #perryposse you find others who support Perry.

?People use the hashtag symbol # before relevant keywords in their Tweet to categorize those Tweets to show more easily in Twitter Search
?Clicking on a hashtagged word in any message shows you all other Tweets in that category
?Hashtags can occur anywhere in the Tweet
?Hashtagged words that become very popular are often Trending Topics

You can open a twitter account and just lurk around to see what is going on, then get you confidence and go for it.

1bunny

follow Perry and tweet him and if you do a search for his name you can find others who follow him some of which are campign staff. I have a good bit of his staff that I follow. I am finding it helpful to keep a list of who they are so I can tweet the ones I want to directly contact. It’s hard to keep track of who’s who when you follow 400+ people : ) so the notebook comes in handy, wish I had thought of it from the beginning. Having to go back through everyone and write it all down is a pain.

I am an Okie now, moved here 3 yrs ago from TX but formerly from LA. We move a LOT. I’ve lived all over the south and even as far as Alaska. But the south is my home and I will never leave it again, unless…it is for some tropical island, could definitely get into island living : )

kamiller42

ABC News has a banner with the NH results. A small photo accompanies each candidate’s names. All of the candidates are smiling in their photo except 1, Rick Perry.

Please send them a smiling Rick.

cbartlett

And stand on his own? If he’d just express his positions on the major isuues, the contrast to the others would be evident. Military background, job-creator, repeal ObamaCare, conservative judge appointment, etc. Leave this controversial crap about other candidates alone. Voters will have a lot more respect.

Carol Tarasewicz

I am so sad to see Rick Perry, when people begged him to announce, to soar to the top of the polls, steal Bachmann’s Ames Straw Poll win thunder and now wonder what he did wrong?
Is it the feud? Rove started right away,
I was so happy that Rick Perry entered the race and right now, for the first time, I am disgusted with the GOP establishment.

cbartlett

The MSM (including Fox) is aiding and abetting the process.

zooboy

We should all urge both Santorum and Perry to re-assess after the SC primary. After the FLorida primary may be too late. We must encourage them to make a gentleman’s agreement that whoever has accumulated the most delegates at that point gets to carry the conservative anti-Mitt mantle. The one with the lower number of delegates should bow out and endorse the other candidate (Perry or Santorum), so that they will stop splitting the conservative vote before it’s too late to stop Romney. The key is for conservatives to coalesce behind ONE candidate before it’s TOO LATE1

cbartlett

I sure hope Perry hangs in there for all 50 states because it’s going to be an uphill battle – against the Bushes, Rove, most of Fox News, almost all MSM, AND all of the uneducated, uninformed sheeple voters. Hang in there RedStaters! So good to know at least some of you have some contacts inside the Perry campaign. Keep hounding them!

Jeff

the establishment if Gov. Perry crashes and burns – which he will likely do getting 10-15% of vote in SC. if he’s lucky
The illegal immigration remark – the Iraq remark – and the Bain thing will boomerang on him big time.

Similar for different reasons with former Speaker Gingrich -
Right or wrong people judge him on the marriages/divorces and his record also opened up a lot of holes… but he’s viewed by most self identified conservatives as a little goofy.

Same for former Sen. Santorum – whose Iowa rise was just due to being the last non-Paul option against former Gov. Romney. Iowa was his apex 10 to 15 in SC – tops. Gone after Florida — bank on it. Every time this guy opens his mouth I think his #s go down.

Former Gov. Huntsman 5 to 10% in SC – 17% in NH is not a win and after SC he’s probably gone.

Congressman Paul will get 15 -20% even though he’s polling lower at the moment – like it or not -he has traction and a growing base that is eclectic (and young).

Romney 30% in SC and will do better in Florida.

If “Conservatives” want an anti-Romney than two of the three “acceptable Conservatives” need to leave the stage. However, for Gingrich Conservatives – no one is acceptable but GIngrich …
For Santorum Conservatives …well you can figure the rest out.

However, after Florida there will only be three left
Romney
Paul
Whoever is anointed as the “True Conservative”

And Romney’s #’s would actually go up. The GOP is center – right – not hard right.

Jeff

at the exit polls the people who voted for Perry were not that well educated as compared to those who voted for some of the other candidates – unless you don’t count going to a college/university (an accredited one) and having a degree conferred upon you as education

(Possesses a doctorate)

Jeff

makes sense – so it will never happen with the egos of the people involved in the process.

The scary thing for those who feel that only Gingrich, Santorum, and Perry are acceptable is that if you combine their numbers nationwide into one candidate they place 3rd – and…
Santorum will never hit 25% again except “maybe” PA and WV – certainly not in states like TN

Perry will never do well in anything North of the Mason-Dixon line – and would probably not do too well in the Mid-South or border states…

Gingrich has too much baggage to ever get more than 25%

Maybe Fred Thompson can be re-enlisted to disappoint Conservatives again

(BTW – I won’t state my preferred candidate – as it is much more fun to analyze than proselytize)

http://www.hakubi.us/ Neil Stevens

You seem to assume everyone thinks Rick Santorum and Rick Perry are both better than Mitt Romney, which most definitely is not the case.

theophilusconservative

Even after the great post the other day supporting Santorum’s conservative creds (see RedState Post – Yes, He is a True Conservative) Erick cannot mention a single fault of Rick Perry.

Here is some help:

1 – Extremely Poor Debater. In the general election we need the focus to be on debating the issues and not on whether our candidate will be able to debate at all.

2 – Foolish foreign policy pronouncements (i.e. sending the troops quickly back to Iraq – is he for real?). Santorum is the strongest on foreign policy of those running.

3 – Jumping on the Populist anti-rich bandwagon (notice that Santorum avoided that line of attack based on principle and prudence).

4 – Using a defense of his immigration stance that sounded like McCain and Bush in one shot – questioning the heart of anyone who disagrees with him.

Perry is a nice guy and a good governor. But let’s not pretend that he does not have some sizable issues. This is why the people in Iowa, NH and even SC are not supporting him in any significant numbers.

Adjoran

Who has said, “Bain did this and that with ABC company when they could have done this or that and it would have worked”?

Nobody. Because not one of the “critics” has a clue what they are talking about.

What they ARE doing is throwing mud, parroting OWS socialist slogans.

That isn’t “constructive criticism” in any respect. It’s just desperation.

Adjoran

Bain isn’t a “raider” firm that is what is called “vulture capitalists” as Perry is mistakenly claiming now. Those use hostile takeovers by buying up stock or debt and then taking over.

Bain is a “white knight” style and a startup venture capital outfit. They either lend you money for a new company and help you get started for a stake, or they offer to help failing companies restructure for a stake.

Do people get laid off either way? You bet. Is it better that ALL the jobs be lost, the business close, the community lose the activity and taxes?

To leftists, it is better that everyone lose than someone get rich. Why do so many who claim to be conservative sound just like leftists on this?

Adjoran

and he has dashed them one by one.

The last straw is this “vulture capitalist” BS. If he knows the truth, he is lying. If he doesn’t know the facts, he should educate himself.

If he’s that desperate for the job as to sound like an OWS hippy, he’s lost me for good.

Probably for the next cycle too. Maybe I’ll give him another look in 2020.

Adjoran

in every single primary since they started holding them.

1spark

You wrote, “I?m being told reliably the campaign has gotten the message and has reset its South Carolina operation. Gone are the flashy national ads with the national ad buyer and the national staging. It is very South Carolina focused, hoping to build upward momentum.”

This could work… if he were one of two candidates in the primary.

I fail to see the “resetting” being done effectively in his campaign and doing it quickly enough to turn into physical votes in South Carolina.

It’s going to be a tough task for the Texan…

One thing’s for sure, I’ll be watching.

mccoypauley

Are different this time though.

Plus the field isn’t very clear. While Romney is ahead, a solid 70% of voters prefer someone else.

Having people coalesce around another McCain-type lesser of two evils candidate isn’t a strong foundation to engage Obama from.

snappy101

Hey, that’s how I feel, too. I’ve been watching Cavuto and Bolling (I like them) and have cut my other Fox News viewing by almost 2/3. I’ve never been so totally disgusted with them since they have been on the air. It’s like Bernie Goldberg’s Obama book, “A Slobbering Love Affair,” only it’s Romney instead of Obama with Fox News. I don’t remember them being shills for McCain in 2008 during the primary season and I didn’t like him, either.

When Romney was already declared and the Republican Machine was wooing other new candidates, Fox News kept saying Romney can’t get past 20 something percent, that he was just treading water. Then once all of the potential candidates that were being courted said, “No,” and the Republican Machine (and that includes Kristol and Frank Luntz among others) decided to settle for Romney, all of a sudden he was the greatest thing since sliced bread. Still with the same 20 something percent, now all of a sudden every 5 minutes Fox News was hammering home that Romney was the most electable. Pretty soon, the GOP voters started to parrot what they were hearing from Fox News 24/7 when they were polled. Once that happened, every chance they got some Fox News personality or Fox News analyst/panelist was pointing to the polls and saying something like. “See, the polls show Romney is the Most Electable.” Only no one ever said why he was the Most Electable. It couldn’t be because he won a lot of elections. It couldn’t be because there is such contrast between Romney and Obama. The funniest thing I ever heard about Romney being most electable from a “conservative” is that the Democrats are most afraid of Romney because of his “versatility of conviction.” That was George Will who wrote that. That is, Romney is such a flip flopper on a variety of issues that no Democrat can pin him down on anything. Yes, now all of a sudden Republican voters are being told flip flopping is a virtue. Have you noticed no one on Fox News talks about Romney’s constant flip flopping anymore? Now, the Fox News mantra is poor Romney is being criticized for being a capitalist and so unfairly by his GOP opponents. It makes me just want to reach for the hanky.

There’s one, though, that strayed from the reservation and came out for Santorum and that’s Huckabee. Santorum’s rise can be directly traced to the point in time when Huckabee decided to bless him but no one on Fox News or any other media outlet acknowledges Huckabee’s part in Santorum’s rise from nowhere. It is my opinion that Huckabee picked the non-Romney to rise out of Iowa. Once he did that, Huckabee started to appear as a guest on the other Fox News shows way more times than he ever did in the past. Maybe they were getting some flack about being over the top for Romney and besides, (at the time) No Money Santorum was no threat to Most Electable Romney. (Huckabee would have never blessed Perry because Perry endorsed Giuliani in 2008 instead of him.)

Fox News was so in the tank for Romney during Iowa caucus night, that I switched to CNN early on and stayed with them all night. They don’t like any GOP candidate and it’s easier for me to deal with that. I watched zero NH primary night coverage.

baracksolyndraobama

He’s going into SC with Hugo Chavez’ ideology. Good grief!

davesinsanantonio

the loan shark, or take some of their assets to the pawn shop. Nobody is forcing them to do it, or to go to Bain Capital. But, the end result is still the same.

So, why don’t we nominate the loan shark or the pawn broker???

Just because something is legal does not make it moral. Just because something is legal does not mean the voters will accept in in a candidate. Defending some behavior is easier than selling it. We can defend Mittens at Bain, But it will be very hard to sell it to the voters in the general.

swamphermit

The ‘Texas Pretty Boy’ is more concerned with how his looks compare with Romney’s. If he had spent less time thinking (and bringing up Romney’s ‘good looks’ in a debate!) about looks, then perhaps he could’ve been better prepared for the debates. Then again, ‘Texas Pretty Boys’ are not known for their brains.

There is no ‘Reset’ from such total failure…

baracksolyndraobama

I hope Sen. DeMint is outraged at Gingrich and Perry morphing into Huey Long and Hugo Chavez just as they’re targeting his state.

Would love to see him endorse Romney ahead of the vote. He’s the one leader who can short circuit the lefty attacks and begin uniting the party.

tercel

Kristol is exactly right. You can get on your high horse and defend away but we will LOSE the election if Romney is the nominee. This will never sell in Peoria. Period.

texastaxpayer

nt

supergirl2911

Hate that too. I want my vote and my state to matter and the fact that the system is almost rigged to support fringe or liberal candidates( caucus, open primary, blue states) is frustrating. I think sc is asleep and big money wins. The media and a few states pick the candidates. I think the system as it is says something about our leadership and I can understand huntsman for saying something about our party, although poorly times and worded. Hannity is in it for the establishment and if the media types would get outbid their NYC honking bubble( no offense to a city I love) they would see that they have INaCCURATE perspective about what conservative is. If you don’t know you don’t know. Please SHUT UP O’Reilly about not having hope for a true conservative. You hang around anti-Obama people and that does not make you a conservative.

Juggernaut

fearmongering to convince you its wrong to bash him while working at Bain and you guys fell for it. Its only about Romney, not capitalism. Liberals called banking reform racist in 2002 and 2005 rather than debate the merits of reform…….Romney has suckered and put you people into a frenzy over something besides his career. His career is was and shall continue to be in question because we don’t won’t to lose to a populist fearmongering Obama.

supergirl2911

They are a waste of time or inflammatory.

http://www.doctor-bob.biz rsklaroff

…may be accessed elsewhere.

http://www.redstate.com/leon_h_wolf/2012/01/10/new-hampshire-results-coveritlive/#comment-14140

Essentially, after having read the above-comments and compared/contrasted them with what I wrote elsewhere, I do not find much to refute that already hasn’t been written.

The bottom-line is that Perry-supporters can hope that the disappointments experienced by Santorum and The Newt…in NH…will prompt people to ponder the impact of joining Perry’s Posse.

texastaxpayer

Your “white knight” comparison is a joke. It is one thing to invest money the company fail and people get laid off. It is quite another thing to “invest” in companies with the sole intention of siphoning off its resources and pension funds and then pitching the carcass and the work force in the garbage while you and your fat cat buddies move on the next companies your going to “save”. You can try and spin this anyway you like but Romney isn’t going to win hearts and minds with his “private sector experience” and you know it. Couple his term as a “corporate raider” with his disastrous single term leading a state and Romney is done. As a supporter you must ask yourself is it better he loose now or in the general? He is Loosing one of them though if its the general we get the added bonus of four more years of Obama. While you contemplate that figure this into your decision.
http://www.whenmittromneycametotown.com/
Believe me the independents will be looking at this. It’s time to move past Romney he is damaged goods.

texastaxpayer

But I get your point…

nancysabet

It is fantastic..please we need more hits…this is the new version

HIS BOOTS ARE MADE FOR WALKING – Rebecca Winterowd http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qC39JNJGgwA&fmt=18

we need more hits

nancysabet

NH Report , today?s primary
I drove to Manchester NH today from MA to help out Gov. Perry?s campaign. As I was driving through the city I saw a few designated areas where candidates had yard signs on the ground, basically near a HYW exit or entrance. Many of them from Romney camp. I stopped in these spots and put as many Perry signs as I could. In one spot, as I was walking and putting signs on the frozen ground, a camera man from a French TV followed me through and made series of shots and later their woman reporter interviewed me. I know French a little and I tried it to answer some of the questions. The one question that she pressed me on was what I think about the power of media and a single state play in influencing the result of the election. I spoke about how media have been unfair to Perry; I talked about his record and why I am supporting him. They seemed to be agreeing with me. From there I went straight to the HQ. I got a few more signs and headed towards a very busy polling place (precinct 1). There were probably over 100 media people, cameramen, news reporters (including CNN, MSNBC, FOX) standing around the polling place and less than 70/80 supporters of Ron Paul, Romney. I was the only one there from Perry camp. I was really mad that the HQ has not sent any one there; later they told me that they had a couple people there early on. But anyway, I stayed there for 3 hours and I got several interviews and many photos were taken from my Perry sign. I was interviewed by one of the reporters of MSNBC. The most interesting interview was by a TV crew from TX. They were so happy to see me and they said they were looking for someone from the camp and they could not find one. We had a very interesting talk and they loved my passionate support of the governor and the fact I am speaking the truth about their governor. They told me that they loved the way I talked about Perry. Later I saw Bret Baier, Fox Special Report, I went to him and said hello, he was very approachable. I said I have a complain, he looked at my sign and said well, I see. He knew what I am complaining about right away, he said yes I understand, but Perry is getting a lot of exposure in S.C. and he will be in their Monday debate, and he said he will give him a reasonable amount of time, unlike NBC and ABC debate. Then he thanked me for watching. I am telling you people. looks like your complains and criticism of FOX not giving exposure to Perry is working and they don?t want to lose you as their audience, make sure to continue to demand more TV time exposure for Perry, they are listening.

languedoctor

And that is precisely why the Bain attacks reek of desperation. The critics have no idea what they’re talking about. They’re just imagining a scenario in which it might make sense to criticize Bain, hoping they’re right.

kindredsoul

Erick: if the Perry people are listening to the various suggestions here for turning things around (and there are some very good ones), are you confident that we’re going to see something very soon to signal as much? Whatever they choose to do, it would be nice to see a sign of life. My hope yesterday was that after the post-NH punditry dies down (by tomorrow) that Perry would open up a can of relatively impressive whupass (on his staff, or Obama, or Democrats, or the jobs situation, or Obamacare or something). He needs to be part of the discussion . . .and not an also ran discussion. Do you have any inkling of what’s coming or when?

jakeofalltrades

I also have a doctorate.

Marcus_Traianus

Please, and Perry’s comments on “vulture capitalism” just put the final nail in his political coffin.

unitedwestood

Ihope he has something…. he’s beeing running for President for 6 years!!!!!!

mizzoumark

I like Perry. I really do. I love his platform, although I don’t think he has the charisma, tv skills, and speaking skills to win a national campaign against Obama. Further, Romney is NOT my first choice by any means,,,,,,,but I think it’s high time folks around here get real and accept reality: Rick Perry’s campaign is DONE.

But, but…..the delegates are PROPORTIONAL so far! Perry ain’t out of it as far as the “delegate math” is concerned!!

Y’all know as well as I do that momentum and money matters – and momentum matters most. You don’t win (or tie) Iowa, then win convincingly in New Hampshire and then lose the nomination unless you are facing a VERY strong opponent with significant support. Perry finished 4th in Iowa, and received less than 1% of the vote in New Hampshire.

Who cares!! South Carolina is PERRY TERRITORY! We’re gonna take the fight to Mitt in a closed primary and win among conservatives!

FYI, Mitt won conservatives and evangelicals handily in New Hampshire, and have you checked the polling in South Carolina? Mitt has a rather sizable lead, and Perry is holding steady……….at 4% to 5% (that’s good for 5th out of 6 candidates FYI). Only Baghdad Bob could think Perry has a shot in this race.

Again, Mitt ain’t my choice……but it’s time to come to terms with reality. He WILL be the nominee. I also don’t believe the BS that is promulgated here and elsewhere that Romney is “unelectable”. From the beginning I thought this would be a tough race, but Romney is definitely NOT unelectable. That’s a joke, quite frankly. Could he lose? Sure, absolutely……but he has as good a chance of winning the general than any other candidate, except perhaps Jon Huntsman.

aj_0000

That’s pretty funny, in a sad but true kind of way. Unfortunately, this site has obviously become the last home base of what remains of Perry’s support. As you can see from the article, that includes the people who run the site. It’s not over! Yeah, it is…but oh well. I’ll be sitting home in November while Romney loses.

Tbone

The guy who ran the pissant state of Utah and then became Obama’s lackey in China?

hls87

and Bain is simply indefensible. Romney’s career in the “private sector” has nothing to do with the operation of a free economy. On the contrary, it’s a beautiful illustration of the destructive result of the government’s micromanagement of the financial system.

Bain made money buying a stake in failing companies and riding them into bankruptcy. How is that possible? You can profit by failing if the government makes money available to banks on easy enough terms that they can afford to absorb lots of bad loans. A failing company borrows a lot of money it has no reasonable prospect of repaying. It forks over a generours share of that money to Bain as “management fees.” The company goes bankrupt after Bain recoups its investment plus some profit. The banks eat whatever losses remain after liquidation. The federal government makes sure the banks can deal with the blow. Employess and taxpayers lose.

In about 10 per cent of its deals, Bain actually invested in troubled companies that recovered and made a lot of money. There is no more perfect example of socializing losses and privatizing gains. This isn’t capitalism. It isn’t illegal and it shouldn’t be. It should just be impossible because the government shouldn’t be distorting markets as it does.

The attacks on Romney and Bain are dead on target. He’s part of the problem and he can’t be part of the solution. If he’s the nominee Obama will beat him about the ears with Bain and it will be effective because Obama will be right.

red_oakster

Perry’s vulture language takes the message away from Romneycare and Mitt’s lack of conservatism. I don’t see how it helps Perry’s attempt at reviving his candidacy.

I hope the SC primary breaks decisively towards one of Gingrich, Perry, and Santorum. Without it, Romney is going to leverage support in the 30s into the nomination. And that’s leverage that would make any Bain partner blush!

http://www.changeforrickperry.org louisianapatriette

when “you’re lying in your beds many years from now, would you be willing to trade all the days, from this day to that, for one chance, just one chance, to come back here and tell our enemies that they may take our lives, but they’ll never take our freedom?”

OK, so they’re not taking our lives, but they’re certainly trying to make us bow the knee to the Mighty Mittens. Won’t it be good to know that we fought our hardest for the heart and soul of this country and devoted our time to supporting the best man on stage? My conscience, at least, will not condemn me.

And besides, there’s still a path to victory. Continue to support Perry with enthusiasm until we run out of road. The folks in South Carolina are providing us with a wonderful example of courage and perseverance. If Romney kills our passion for a Perry presidency, then he’s won half the battle. Don’t settle; no fear, no retreat.

Oh, and by the way, Perry also needs to say this to Romney: “There’s a difference between us. You think the people of this country exist to provide you with position. I think your position exists to provide those people with freedom. And I go to make sure that they have it.”

As you can see, I’m in a “Braveheart” mood this morning

conservativeparrothead

Perry 3.0 Perry’s Last Stand…blah blah blah

What is he going to do? He is going to have a slight bump and pull about 12%. Rick Santorum and Newt will be around 15-18% each, maybe one gets to 20 and one is around 14-15. Great…real special.

Now you have all three of them combining for around 45 to maybe 50% of the vote, all three in double digits but none able to rise to significantly over 20%. But I would suggest, if you polled supporters of these three: Perry, Gingrich and Santorum would likely be a large majority of these voters top 3 remaining.

But Mitt will arrive probably with around 35% of the vote similar to John McCain in 2008 and win the Primary.

Here is the way I see it:
1. Perry cant win, even if the other two got out, I believe many conservatives would probably think that the Governor, as great as his plan is, just wouldnt be up to the task. I think even in a one on one with Romney, he might struggle to win that. The reality is that right now his credentials are better than Santorum or Newt on paper to be President of the United States in 2012 (maybe Newt is close, but Governor is a popular pre-req for the Presidency and he has been a very effective one). This is fact, I believe that many conservatives, not hard core but enough who simply want someone to take on Obama might go Romney, I know this is going to upset many of the Perry supporters but I think that many Conservatives after actually hearing him and seeing him on the campaign think he is not up to the task. I think a lot of people liked his story on paper coming in, which is why he came into the race like gangbusters, but the person didnt match the paper credentials. He is simply helping Romney the longer he stays in.

2. Santorum and Gingrich – Im not sure Santorum can beat Romney one on one, not sure he has the name recognition, not sure he has the campaign at this point, he basically was running an Iowa campaign in a truck and pulled a rabbit out of his arse…everything fell perfectly into place for him to do what he did. However, with Iowa’s performance he isnt going anywhere. Unless…
and I think this is the only chance to beat Romney at this point. These two have to combo up. Right now, Newt Gingrich, who has more credentials and better campaign should be the anti-Romney but he should just declare that Rick Santorum is his running mate, much like Reagan declared his running mate in 1976 to try and pull the moderate vote in an effort to beat Ford, these two should just combine now.

Any shot?

The hanging around is just going to result in Romney-Christie 2012

conservativeparrothead

Perry 3.0 Perry’s Last Stand…blah blah blah

What is he going to do? He is going to have a slight bump and pull about 12%. Rick Santorum and Newt will be around 15-18% each, maybe one gets to 20 and one is around 14-15. Great…real special.

Now you have all three of them combining for around 45 to maybe 50% of the vote, all three in double digits but none able to rise to significantly over 20%. But I would suggest, if you polled supporters of these three: Perry, Gingrich and Santorum would likely be a large majority of these voters top 3 remaining.

But Mitt will arrive probably with around 35% of the vote similar to John McCain in 2008 and win the Primary.

Here is the way I see it:
1. Perry cant win, even if the other two got out, I believe many conservatives would probably think that the Governor, as great as his plan is, just wouldnt be up to the task. I think even in a one on one with Romney, he might struggle to win that. The reality is that right now his credentials are better than Santorum or Newt on paper to be President of the United States in 2012 (maybe Newt is close, but Governor is a popular pre-req for the Presidency and he has been a very effective one). This is fact, I believe that many conservatives, not hard core but enough who simply want someone to take on Obama might go Romney, I know this is going to upset many of the Perry supporters but I think that many Conservatives after actually hearing him and seeing him on the campaign think he is not up to the task. I think a lot of people liked his story on paper coming in, which is why he came into the race like gangbusters, but the person didnt match the paper credentials. He is simply helping Romney the longer he stays in.

2. Santorum and Gingrich – Im not sure Santorum can beat Romney one on one, not sure he has the name recognition, not sure he has the campaign at this point, he basically was running an Iowa campaign in a truck and pulled a rabbit out of his arse…everything fell perfectly into place for him to do what he did. However, with Iowa’s performance he isnt going anywhere. Unless…
and I think this is the only chance to beat Romney at this point. These two have to combo up. Right now, Newt Gingrich, who has more credentials and better campaign should be the anti-Romney but he should just declare that Rick Santorum is his running mate, much like Reagan declared his running mate in 1976 to try and pull the moderate vote in an effort to beat Ford, these two should just combine now.

Any shot?

The hanging around is just going to result in Romney-Christie 2012

4suramcan

I, for one, appreciate your efforts. I think its gonna take a lot of footwork to help Mr. Perry. The masses haven’t a clue of whats going on, but they can vote.

red4liberty

Whether you like/respect Kristol or not, look at the substance of what he said. There should not be an automatic defense of Bain as if capitalism itself is being attacked. Not sure why so many are afraid of a little scrutiny on his Bain years. Inquiring minds would like to know. The media is protecting Mitt now, but once he’s the nominee they will go scorched earch. We will definitely see another 4 years of Obama if Romney is his opponent. He’s Obama-lite.

red4liberty

Supporters don’t seem to know what they are talking about either. The comments I see from supporters of Romney/Bain are generically defending capitalism, which is not what’s being attacked. It’s a specific person (Romney) and specific business practices conducted by Bain. OWS is all over the place with their general opposition to Wall Street. There’s a pretty big difference. I’m not attacking or defending Romney/Bain, but I would like to know more about it before he’s the nominee. You seem content with blindly accepting Romney, I am not.

znjs

Reuters has him polling 7% nationally. Now (assuming cnn allows the early poll from gallup to stand even though gallup have more recent polls that don’t have him hitting 7%) he only needs one more national poll.

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2012/president/us/republican_presidential_nomination-1452.html

I don’t think it matters, I believe he’s toast anyhow, but I’ve been bringing him probably not making the debate plenty of times, so it’s only fair that I mention he’s pretty close now.

jakeofalltrades

Fair mindedness is a very good thing.

radicalrighty

Lord knows I spent lots of time and effort talking him up and I elieve he would beat the (golf) socks off of Obama, and look good doing it.

I believe he would instigate changes that would make ALL Americans’ lives easier to live.

But if I were Rick Perry, I would give the GOP a double-handed, one-finger salute, and resume the stellar, awe inspiring job of Texas Governor that he has done for 11 years.

I’d say, “to hell with the GOP, and it’s fraudulent method of choosing candidates.”

One question. What if, say, Georgia, Alabama, and Texas were the first three primaries? Followed by Louisiana, Oklahoma, New Mexico. Who would have an insurmountable lead?

circlegranch

and no matter what any other candidate brought to the table, said or did, this has been written in the stars since ’08. Maybe Perry or Santorum or Bachmann will gain enough favor between now and ’16 to become the ‘next in line’ but why would they even try?

After Iowa, all we heard was that the not-Mitt candidates had to gear up and go after him or he’d just waltz to the nomination. Find his glass jaw and take a swing, they were told. Somebody better do something fast! This past Sat. night after the ABC debate, all we heard was that the other candidates were timid around Romney. Nobody had the courage to take him on or attack him or reveal a weak side to him. As a result, its over going into NH and SC, unless somebody of the not-Mitt gang shows guts and takes the gloves off. Today, Gingirch and Perry are painted by the media as anti-capitalist, anti-conservatives that should fold up and go home. Sure looks suspicious that the not-Mitt’s got goaded once again by ‘the experts’ into being bold and calling attention to Mitt’s background all for the purpose so it could be hung around their necks a day later. Two days ago, they were supposed to get really gutsy and do something–anything! Today, they are maligned beyond the pale.

What a horrible system. Rigged by powerful party politics and media voices that think they are smarter than everybody else, why would any sane, decent person want to run for president anymore?

radicalrighty

And, I’m done with it. I’ll vote, as always, but until change in our selecting methods change, I’m no longer getting involved.

I’m done for 2012.

http://www.doctor-bob.biz rsklaroff

Amy Kremer just interviewed on PMSNBC [between interruptions] said SC electorate is coalescing around The Newt and Perry [not mentioning Santorum]. She also said there is strong anger against Haley, citing Rubio and Rick Scott events in Florida.

red4liberty

the media is already in the tank for Romney and like it or not, it does help mold public opinion. I’m not giving up, but there are more less informed people out there than informed and those people will vote for Romney. What happened to the tea party?? Why are so many who were elected with tea party support in 2010 endorsing Romney (Nikki Haley, Jason Chafetz, etc.) It’s time to start concentrating on House and Senate races because Obama will win against Romney.

texasdad

What a true statement!! The republican party has messed up this country as bad or worse than the democrats… We need a 3rd party! The Perry party, or I guess TEA Party would do!

Tbone

were within 5 points in the last POTUS election should be allowed primaries.

That would reward the states with common sense and relegate the idiots to the idiot pile.

Tbone

until the Republican states start voting.

jakeofalltrades

Not my rules.

jakeofalltrades

Plus, the last NotRomney standing should inherit a majority position.

red4liberty

I had to shut it off. Fox & Friends has turned into the Mitt Romney show. I know he’s the frontrunner, but this thing ain’t over and they are already in the tank for Romney. The interview with Perry this morning was disgraceful. The 3 of them sat there attacking him on his attacks on Romney/Bain instead of asking more substantive questions about his record and vision. They interrupted his answers and were disinterested and dismissive. Does Perry deserve this kind of treatment? No. They interviewed Mitt just before and were so captivated by his every word and praised him for the glorious win in liberal NH. If I was a Romney fan I would love the slobberfest, but I’m not so where do I go??? The internet where diversity lives. Fox does not seem so Fair and Balanced anymore. What a shame.

texasdad

But not all republicans are conservative… So, I guess if no 3rd party, we need to convert the repnublicans into conservatives…no

jakeofalltrades

and help the GOP get elected.

tyman

if folks feel like their vote will matter down the road as opposed to just staying home for the present election.

tyman

And I hope that it’s Perry.

JSobieski

Santorum is clearly willing to just out hussle people by campaigning door to door. Buying extra shoes is cheap. What would induce Rick to quit?

Newt can rely on debate performances and interviews (i.e. general media attention) without any campaign moneys to speak of. Plus, he wants to take shots at Romney. What would induce Newt to leave?

Perry seems the most money dependent of the three and has the lowest current numbers.

The problem with your attrition approach is that Perry is the person most likely to exit first. Perry will quit if he doesn’t finish a strong second in South Carolina. Newt in contrast will not quit before Super Tuesday.

lizzie

and also best way I can think of to buzzsaw through South Carolina!
local news coverage video of 2:17 has Gov. Perry’s “A packed house at Shealy’s Barbecue in Batesburg-Leesville Healey’s Bar-be-Que”.

http://www.wltx.com/news/article/167610/2/Rick-Perry-Begins-Primary-Push-At-Shealys

Am sure someone said “He** yeah!” which means Rebecca’s “Perry Girls” Youtube is circulating.

as to the CNN SC debate on January 19? Only way Perry can make the cut is if he polls better in SC – he needs 7% in three polls in next seven days week – here is the criteria:

http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2012/01/03/criteria-announced-for-southern-gop-presidential-debate/

but good for Perry that he got an invite from the next Huckabee Forum.

jakeofalltrades

n////t

pttx333

paralegal from one of the huge law firms in Houston. I laughed about your ability to go on “for 50 pages with 300 citations” and remember all of those briefs that I proofed. One of my attorneys used to write two-page sentences, and we would argue about the verb being incorrect in those extremely loooong sentences. Oh, those were the days – loved my job and miss it every day, though.

BTW, retirement “ain’t” what it is cracked up to be – remember that.

jakeofalltrades

My parents retired in their forties, and I have to agree with you. They don’t ever do anything.

http://www.doctor-bob.biz rsklaroff

…by Tea Party Express [and does well, again, during the FNC Debate on Monday], a secondary-surge could be triggered; hope springs eternal.

pttx333

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conservativemusician

And if you keep talking like this, you won’t be around here for very long…
especially with all the continuing talk about Paul possibly going third party.

http://www.humanevents.com/article.php?id=48726

(h/t Human Events)

Again, we don’t need a third party and Perry is already in the right party. The only long-term solution is for conservatives to get on the right page together and take our party back from the RINO squishes in the GOP leadership.

I also remain unconvinced that a pseudo-conservative moderate squish state that went for Obama in 2008 (IA) and a Northeastern liberal state (NH) are going to determine who our nominee should be. Perry had no chance in IA because he is against ethanol subsidies and he had no chance in NH because his conservative message doesn’t resonate with Northeastern Republicans who are more akin ideologically to liberals.

Tbone is right downthread. It is still too early for Perry to call it quits. Let’s see how it goes when the more conservative states start voting in the later primaries. If Perry bombs out at that point, so be it, but at least more people will have had their chance to weigh in on their choice before he would finally bow out. In spite of Romney’s early success, conservatives still do not like or trust him, so I think we’re in for an interesting ride from here on out.

Perry 2012

tjms

is so set in recycling the same ol washington politicians. But that is evident. Last election same thing. I want no part of it. Why keep saying they will be different this time we will hold their feet to the fire, or they had to vote that way, etc. etc. Then they wonder why people are leaving the party and going independent. I will continue to support Gov. Perry until i have no option. the way it is going it will be a primary of Romney vs. Paul. they figure Romney will take that, which I would not count on, and then on to Nov. where Obama will be reelected. At that point they are off the hook and can say the voters have spoken then they can just keep going along with all the ruining of our country.

Common_Cents

Even before SC if possible. I agree that Gingrich is the best positioned to take on Romney and then Obama.

But something has to give soon to consolidate support of the non romney’s, whatever that might be. Maybe its a high profile endorsement (Sarah, not Todd), DeMint, or tea party to get the ball rollin towards one candidate.

I cringe every time I hear Perry speak, white knuckle cringing, hoping the guy doesn’t gaffe, his pauses increase anxiety. I am not alone. II’m sure nearly everyone else feels the same, whether they admit it or not. A couple RS’ers on the ground in IA have reported that Bush Fatigue is very real. Like it or not, that is reality. Perry does have a great background on paper and does great things in TX, but America isn’t ready for him, without him selling it effectively. Yes, now there will be people yelling “BUT….record, record, record!”. Well, tell that to America who elected a blank slate zombie on hope and change.

Having a great mousetrap will not have the world beat a path to your door, you gotta go out and sell it effectively.

Perry sealed his fate w/ the recent sending troops back to Iraq comment as well. A lame stream media debate is not the place to throw out a one liner like that. That will come back up big time if he were ever to make a move back up in polls, and would kill any chance of winning against obama. Right or wrong, America has huge Iraq fatigue.

He also insulted voters of NH with a comment today. Geez, you need to make an attempt to win there in the general, how the heck is insulting them going to help?

Perry is probably better off working with a coalition of conservative governors against federal power at this point and attack the problems through states banding together against the DC establishment.

If I could appoint a President, it would be Perry. But he has to get elected. He’s got the first part of Buckley’s rule, conservative, but not the second, able to get elected. I’m sorry, but you can’t help America if you can’t get elected. Oh if we could fuse a Gingrich and a Perry together. But that is fantasy.

Perry’s lack of traction represents how far America has slid from real conservatism and is just too big a jump for America to take in one fell swoop. Today’s candidates have to be successful in sound bytes, headlines, simple repetitive messages, media savvy.

Santorum just won’t be able to get it done.

Huntsman staying in for SC and maybe FL might even help our cause, taking a little support from Romney.

But, If all 3 stay in much longer, they’ll all fade away and its nominee Romney. We need some catalyst real soon for anyone to get a little momentum to make any attempt.

lizzie

good news Dr. S.

Just concerned that they all have to report 4Q2011 fundraising on January 15, and Perry better have a good-enough story to tell so he gets above 7% in enough SC polls between today and January 18.

I had a real hard time seeing the exit polls for New Hampshire. How on earth could TEA Party in NH go for Romney?????????????????????????

Good for Amy Kremer!

I actually think Santorum is the one who should drop out before SC.
And Huntsman.

Even tho I wish Romney and Paul would vanish.

Romney – poof – sudden urge to take up golf, in Mongolia (not that I want Mongolia to have to endure another problem – just that they have a really interesting rocky-desert golf course and Romney would finally get a lesson in getting dusty

Paul – poof – aliens take him back

“Moneyball” and “The King’s Speech” – add to Perry’s dvd list!

supergirl2911

Who I would pull the lever for. He has no executive leadership experience he’s whiny he is not a leader. Nevermind pork. Social values matter but they won’t win this electiOn.

supergirl2911

Nt

Spartan4Life

No more, no less.

It isn’t just the debates thing now. It is the inability to come up with any kind of message that 1. Differentiates and 2. Resonates.

The whole part time Congress thing was cute but anybody with a brain knew that wasn’t going to happen. His flat tax was neither first or very innovative and when he said you could stay on current system it just came across as wishy-washy. The best thing he put out there was his energy jobs plan and he didn’t spend near enough time talking about it. It would have dove-tailed nicely with the whole Keystone pipeline thing but it had long since been discarded. He was ill-prepared for attacks on his record and, therefore, let his opponents define him.

Whether he got bad advice or not doesn’t matter. At the end of the day he owns the result.

usedtobelib

the idiot prognosticator of the Neocons.

I guess I must be, according to the governor of Texas, Mr. Perry, a “vulture” capitalist.

After all, although middle class, I owned until four years ago, about $40, 000 in financials– you know, big, bad banks and such– in a 401K. An advisor had put me in with a very small amount many years before. I left it there and watched it grow, bounce down, bounce up, go through steady periods, then…well, you get the picture. I looked at those funds one day, remembered he said that they had volatility, and now that I was much, much older, and more concerned about my savings, did a rollover to what were considered less volatile instruments. I AM A VULTURE>

Those of you with life insurance policies? Don’t you realize you are helping VULTURES make money off the very basic human fear of dying and leaving loved ones penniless?

Those of you with even a few shares in an insurance company, a Prudential, a MetLife, whatever…don’t you know you are a VULTURE? (Gee, I wonder if Gov. Perry has a life insurance policy or if he has some stocks in companies that are VULTURES?)

Oil, anyone? Do you know any pols who are quite cozy with big oil, those VULTURES??????

Erik, you’ve gone over the hypocritical deep end with your support of guys who’ll say this kind of stuff.

In short, you’re just like the Dems.

pttx333

far too early. Don’t know how on earth your folks did it in their 40′s. I miss the hustle/bustle of preparing for trial – especially the discovery phase, my forte. Love it, love it, love it. I do still work for one of my old bosses once in a while, but it is from home – just not the same. Yep, the hours were very long, but it was so interesting that I didn’t notice the time anyway.

Yep, this old gal is now 71 and still hangin’ in there with a very active mind. God has truly blessed me.

supergirl2911

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Spartan4Life

Sorry, former avid Perry supporter here. He never had to sell me. What is disappointing is that he never found a message that anyone else got excited about and still hasn’t.

Sorry, but the facts.

Tbone

It is why we have Obama and it is why we are going to get him again.

sunshinek67

Texas worth 155 in April. Hang in there Perry!

Said it last nite, all Amy Kremer & TeaParty need to do right now is derail the weak “frontrunner” with two words “Governor Perry”, or even “Newt Gingrich”.

Anybody But Romney!

red_oakster

But Perry, despite what Erick claims, is cooked. He has very little money left. The real question is whether either Gingrich or Santorum can pull away from the other and become the clear alternative to Romney.

If one of them does, we’ve got a race.

http://www.doctor-bob.biz rsklaroff

Paul/Huntsman voters [per Rasmussen quoted by Rush] are Indies/Libs.

Also….

TPM designation may be self-ID’ed rather than related to endorsement by any entities; this will compare with events over weekend in Myrtle Beach.

Spartan4Life

Tbone- I agree with most of your posts but I cringe whenever I hear someone blame the voters for “not getting it”. It is the candidates job for them to get it, not the other way around.

Perry doesn’t strike me as a whiner but that sounds like whining.

red_oakster

He’s low on money and has no hope in South Carolina. The only person he helps by staying in is Mitt.

languedoctor

I have nothing against scrutiny of Bain. My point is that all of the very public critiques that I’ve heard (like Perry’s) have been heavy on anti-capitalist rhetoric and short on facts related to what, specifically, was so terrible about what Romney did.

The burden of proof is on the accuser.

I’m sympathetic to Romney because I grew up in one of the countless fading mill towns in New England. My dad was a productivity consultant, and as a kid I was on the wrong end of a fair amount of hostility.

At the end of the day, a lot of people lost their jobs. But they didn’t lose their jobs because of my dad, or Bain, or Romney. They lost their jobs because of David Ricardo. The buyer’s market for $300 leather shoes is Cole Haan and . . . that’s about it. The firms that adapted (like New Balance) survived. The ones that didn’t no longer exist. It stinks for the employees and their families, and the towns, but the world was moving irreversibly in a different direction. It may have been bad news for everyone, but it was even worse news for the ones with their head in the sand, crying foul.

languedoctor

Again – long on rhetoric, shoer on evidence.

How many firms did Bain invest in? How many went bankrupt?

Then . . .

What percentage of firms in similar sectors went bankrupt over the same period of time that you’re looking at re: Bain?

then . . .

What is the difference (the negative effect of Bain?)

then . . .

What were the returns to investors, including group investors like retirement account managers?

then . . .

Which now-successful firms survived in large part because of private (Bain) capital?

Finally . . .

Is there evidence of Corzine-style corporate malfeasance by Romney?

If you can answer those questions, you’ll have a legitimate discussion on your hands. Otherwise, it’s all hot air.

$.02

http://www.doctor-bob.biz rsklaroff

[and walks the talk]

damianvincent

This is sad. Look to be a capitalist doesn’t mean you have to celebrate the creative destruction of your economy by vultures like Romney and Bain. Capitalism is about increasing opportunity, and thereby competition, that is the driving force that provides good to society, social mobility etc. etc. What we have today isn’t capitalism, and defending it doesn’t make you a good capitalist. These guys, Bain, are short term investors who swoop down, in desperate times, sell off a companies assets, ship its workforce overseas, of course those actions reap short term profit, all bain cares about as they will be out the door in two years anyway. 8% of these bain made nothing back, 23% failed within a short time of Romney leaving, that’s over 30%, or 1 in 3 failures. That’s not even counting the damage to our country itself, as romney was the governments leg man in shipping our jobs overseas by agreeing to have American’s compete on a level playing field with Chinese child labor, and artificially low currency. We’re whistling past the graveyard unable to fix the flaws in our own system, in our blind adherence to it. We need to be able to look at things objectively and say maybe this isn’t right, maybe we’re getting hosed in our deals with China, allowing people like Romney and company to get rich, shipping our jobs and production overseas. If someone is cheating or manipulating the system that is not free trade or capitalism, that’s called a mugging.

cbartlett

I know some pretty stupid people that have 2 or 3 degrees – in something. I should have been more clear – when I say “uneducated” in this realm, I am referring to people who go to all of the effort to vote without educating themselves on the candidates and the issues first. There is a significant number of people who vote based on 30-second TV sound bytes, seeing a name on a bunch of yard signs or who their neighbor or co-worker said they were voting for. (It’s highly likely that the neighbor or co-worker haven’t educated themselves either – see that merry-go-round??) And we wonder how we ended up with Obama….

texastaxpayer

Perry hasn’t suggested passing laws against looting struggling companies. He has pointed out that a man claiming to be a job creator has made millions enriching himself destorying them. I dont think this is so much about free market principles as hypocrisy. The Faux team have sprung into protect Mittens mode and are distorting what Perry has actually said.

conservativeparrothead

But I just dont see it unless its something dramatic because all three have reasons to hang on:

Perry – loyal support where he looks (RED STATE) and money.

Gingrich – Huge poll numbers less than a month ago, money and perhaps inside track to survive and be anti-Romney candidate.

Santorum – “won” Iowa and seems on the upward trend, you arent getting out if your are on the upward trend.

We have seen this story before: John McCain 2008, Bob Dole 1996 – why? Because there were no great candidates that people coalesced around and a multitude stayed in and split the “anti- X” vote.

In 2008- Mike Huckabee is Rick Santorum, he put faith in Iowa, won Iowa with strong social conservative message you also had Fred Thompson hanging around pulling 15% in South Carolina.

1996- Forbes, Buchanan and Lamar Alexander all hung around.

I see Perry getting out if he doesnt rise after South Carolina, but right now he is only pulling about 10%, its really about Santorum and Gingrich. They need to make a deal or one needs to get out.

damianvincent

What on Earth are you talking about? Vague generalizations with various other companies and stocks does what to prove your point? You’re missing the mark by a mile and getting all indigent about it. ???

http://www.doctor-bob.biz rsklaroff

…by quoting romney as having equated his work @ Bain with BHO’s auto-bailouts!

adair

in the unemployment rate comparison if one guy was Governor in good times, and the other in not-so-good times?

texasdad

I live in Texas so I feel the results of Perry’s leadership… however, he needs to promote that and how it will translate to the country… i’ve heard him talk about it very very briefly, staying away from Texas talk, but thats one of his positives! Romney once stated Perry had 4 aces and it didn’t make him a good leader, but doesnt the USA have those same 4 aces? That wpuld have been a great comeback as well as HIS MESSAGE! I guess he knows what he is doing…

gabs

If it is, then no calling foul if someone profits this way. I’m not voting Romney, but this whole line of attack doesn’t hold up.

http://www.doctor-bob.biz rsklaroff

adair

I hate to interrupt, but we know about Romney. We’d like to know about what you intend to do as President. How are you going to make our country well again?

Can you please take time to give details on your agenda? How will your presidency make things better in South Carolina, or in Massachusetts?

Can anything be done about Illinois?

romansdaughter

Spartan4Life

They haven’t helped.

I think he has relied way too mauch on ads. The voters really don’t pay much attention to them.

http://www.doctor-bob.biz rsklaroff

http://thehill.com/video/campaign/203497-romney-likens-work-at-bain-to-obamas-auto-industry-bailout#dsq-content

flgal208

even though I can’t stand basketball and once the Australian Open starts, I will have the Tennis Channel on and whatever other stations that covers the matches.

I feel so helpless watching a channel I once trusted, sink to such slobberingness—

Remember Pretty Woman? Well, Romney IS Gere pre-Julia. He bought companies, broke them up and sold off the pieces. He didn’t create or make anything, but money. Saying that’s Vulture capitalism isn’t far off the mark. And that’s the part that hits home for many and why the MFM (mainstream fox media) are freaking out, because while it is capitalism, it’s the underbelly and most people, especially women, want the happy ending (Julia gives him a heart and he invests in the ship company, saving it, its workers, while making ships and money–win-win)

jakeofalltrades

This is a hyperlink.

pttx333

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http://www.doctor-bob.biz rsklaroff

the ad is fine, but the evolution of events promises to be better….

texastaxpayer

Perry is calling foul on Romney claiming to be a job creator when he and his partners have been enriching themselves destroying them. I don’t think that is out of bounds. Now if he starts suggesting we need legislation to protect failing companies I am on board with you. However that isnt what he has said. He has said that Romney is a “Vulture Capitalist” benefiting himself through contolled failure. I have seen nothing that proves this is a false statement.

Now whether the markets are “free” or not is another conversation. I doubt very much a “market” where the US government steps in and stops Banks and favored automakers from failing with taxpayer dollars can be described as free.

aesthete

“It’s that darned law of gravity that’s getting in the way!”

Tbone

As such, I can state the simple fact that the majority of voters are:

1. Smart enough to understand the issues but nor sufficiently engaged be knowledgeable of them.

2. Not smart enough to even understand the issues.

3. Think they are smart enough and that they understand the issues but vote their emotions none the less.

Any or all of the above make them dumb voters.

JSobieski

and the remaining 10% of your time arguing against voter education.

I truly don’t understand what motivates you to participate here at RS, but I do truly enjoy some of the Achance-like attributes that you provide.

avagreen

…..got tired of her flaming for Romney by apologizing for Bain while bashing Newt for his talk against it.

M.Kelly = Bimbo GQ posing girl

Tbone

one bit. However, thanks for bringing him up because it makes me smile every time I am reminded that he is not here. Kinda like when some one mentions that Teddy Kennedy is dead.

I have been here going on 7 years pointing out stupidity while providing a little amusement and being just an all around bad guy to a lot of people.

But, I admit that I am lazy. Coming here and reading stuff like yours is like hunting over a baited field. Thank you.

romansdaughter

avagreen

http://www.washingtonpost.com/local/aclu-supporting-bid-by-perry-3-others-seeking-court-order-to-get-on-va-gop-primary-ballot/2012/01/10/gIQAOyPMoP_allComments.html?ctab=all_&#weighIn

avagreen

Sometimes, the ACLU will take on a real case to keep their reputation up.

avagreen

http://www.washingtonpost.com/local/aclu-supporting-bid-by-perry-3-others-seeking-court-order-to-get-on-va-gop-primary-ballot/2012/01/10/gIQAOyPMoP_story.html

Scope

that those that voted for Obama, because he was the first black president, or because he promised hope and change, while ignoring his lack of any kind of experience, can’t exactly be considered intelligent. Those that support Ron Paul, because he is the only true constitutional conservative, and agree with his foreign policy, cannot be considered to have an IQ above their shoe size. To say that some of the voters are not very bright is an understatement.

westcoastpatriette

Ain’t no far-left broad here…and yeah even women in Cali love Texas cowboys!

tyman

I don’t think she’s all that attractive, and her attitude reminds me of a girl in high school.

Did they ever bash Romney for his destructive tactics against Perry and Newt in the form of lies?

I’m tired of all the people saying they don’t like the Republicans going negative against each other…if Mitt Romney gets out of the race, and stops slinging dishonest attacks, the candidates won’t have to respond to them. Problem solved.

avagreen

So, what’s the verdict?
avagreen Monday, January 9th at 6:33PM EST (link)

*nt*

funwithknives

too much sense. Take an Objective view and flesh it out with real facts?? HORRORS!!!!!
Ever since this Bain Cap. stuff emerged , I have waited in vain for this sort of sanity. To not see it, is telling in spades.
So , how about it?? Who has the goods?
{ Quoting Joe Friday: “Just the facts, Ma’am, just give me the facts”}

avagreen

http://www.washingtonpost.com/local/aclu-supporting-bid-by-perry-3-others-seeking-court-order-to-get-on-va-gop-primary-ballot/2012/

Scope

to the pdf file of the entire 13 page brief filed by the ACLU. It’s on the Moe Lane VA ballot issue diary.

avagreen

I’ve had concerns some time about Perry’s not being able to be on the SC ballot, but so far I’ve not heard any news on this site…….. or others.

I hate for the anti-Perry groups on other forums to have all the say-so’s
See ya, guys. It’s been great.

Spartan4Life

….you sit up in your seat and think, boy, I better listen to this because this is going to be a really honest picture about that candidate?

Give me a break.

Spartan4Life

….you sit up in your seat and think, boy, I better listen to this because this is going to be a really honest picture about that candidate?

Give me a break.

red_oakster

What this attack shows is that Perry has run out of ideas. Contrary to Erick, the reset is a joke.

Conservatives need to make a choice between Gingrich and Santorum; and I say that as someone who prefers Perry.

My own guess is that the evangelicals will go all-in with Santorum later this week, and that will be the 2 man race.

texastaxpayer

I am very aware of how competition works. But this isn’t about market forces now is it? Thats what all of you screaming at the top of your lungs about gingrich and perry are forgetting. THIS IS ABOUT AN ELECTION. An election like it or not is about public opinion. You people and the pundits can moan on and on about free market principles and the like making beleive that somehow pointing out Romney’s hypocrisy is an assault on Mom, the flag and apple pie itself. But the truth is quite different. This is an assault on Mitt Romney and his history. Mitt Romney chose to make Bain Capitol the center piece of his campaign. As such his leadership, the decisions he made and his basic philosophy are all fair game in the election. This is a conversation about what is and is not an acceptable business practice to Mitt Romney. Period end of story so give the High Browed free market arguments a rest you just look lost.

Finally, provide a link to a single statement that Rick Perry has said that is false? Can’t find one can you? To bad huh?

JSobieski

There is a reason why tax the rich more and governemnt giving out more free stuff is so popular.

If we can’t defend free enterprise, we will never reform entitlements.

There are tough decisions that require an informed public.

Reagan saw campaigns as opportunities to educate the public. That is how he moved the country rightwards.

red_oakster

All these fellas want to unite conservatives as a first step and then defeat Romney as a second step. This vulture nonsense turns off conservatives. When you are alienating conservatives, when you are allowing Romney to play the conservative role in the debate, you are being ineffectual as a candidate.

The only one of the non-Romneys who has maintained some message discipline is Santorum. Go figure.

red_oakster

Santorum looks to be the best chance for taking the fight to Romney now that Newt and Perry have cratered. If Santorum keeps Romney below 50%, we’ll get our brokered convention.

texastaxpayer

1.) Romeny is no Reagan, in fact when asked if he supported Reagan he claimed to be an independent during the Reagan Bush era. So lets just drop that little pretense right now.

2.) Mitt Romney was born rich. He had every advantage and could of done anything. When you are a person like that you decide the path you take the path doesnt choose you. So it is a fair question to ask. Why did you choose to use a leverage buy out strategy to secure rights to struggling companies. Once you had control of those companies why did you CHOOSE to borrow money against the company to pay huge fees to your organization, raid the pension funds and dump the workers on the back of the tax payers? Instead of say investing that same money in mutuals or gold funds? You see this is a question of character not conservative principles or free enterprise. You see the person that made those decisions is running for president. It is fair to ask a person why they chose to do business in a manner that many like myself see as less than desirable, legal sure. It is not fair to try and turn that character inquiry into an indictment of the questioners commitment to conservatism. That is truly that tactic of the left attack the messenger while ignoring the question. You are really missing the point of the excercise here, its a shame you seem like a bright person.

texastaxpayer

gracie

Excellent contacts and interviews. Can’t believe you got to Bret Baier. I might have lost it I am so angry at Fox. You kept your cool and got your message across. Just excellent. Had a good time too, didn’t you.

We appreciate you!!

JSobieski

My point is that the public needs to be edecuted on economic issues if conservatism is to continue to exist.

Summary of Debate (take a second to re-read the posts above):

TexasTaxpayer: A campaign is NOT time for an economics 101 discussion

Me: Reagan would disagree with that point. He saw campaigns as an opportunity to educate voters

TexasTaxpayer: Romney is no Reagan

If you are going to respond to my comment, why not respond to what I actually said.

Things I NEVER said:
Romney is Reagan
Romney is a strong candidate
Romney is educating the public
Romney is my guy

So are speaking with me,or someone else?

jakeofalltrades

You go girl!

Melody Warbington (rwm52)

and bet $10,000 (in Monopoly money, not Romney money) that if you were running for office, you’d probably be polling at around 1%.

texastaxpayer

Perhaps I misread your Reagan comment… My bad…. However…

Things I did say.
Perry is not attacking the free market
Perry is not suggesting Romney broke the law
Perry is not suggesting legislation to regulate Romneys actions.
Perry is asking a question of character.

Your point seems to be that an uneducated public needs to better understand free market principles. OK I agree. How is Perry asking Romney questions reqarding his decisions and character harming this education? Do you not believe the public is now engaged in a full fledged debate over the role of venture capitalist and what is and is not ethical? Wouldnt you then have to agree that Perry has done much more in two days to forward the education of the average citizen on the basics of these principles than any other candidate? Shouldnt you be congratulating Governor Perry for this accomplishment instead of attacking him?

JSobieski

If anyone else had used this phrase in the way that Perry did, you would likely react differently. Perry said that what Perry did was “unethical” based on evidence of only two things: (1) People being laid off and (2) profits being made.

This is what democrats sound like.

Market transactions happen because BOTH sides agree to the transaction. The consent of both parties if a key aspect of why capitalism is consistent with freedom.

Perry is MIS-EDUCATING the public, which is why I am riled up.

carolynr

This time I got my phone bank list early. I strongly suggest that anyone that wants to help Perry do the same thing. As you have seen on the Perry Report…you know who I am and where I am live…NE Georgia. Because I have been in sales, it is easy for me to speak on the phone. SC does not like canned talk…they like neighbor talk..with facts. With my list…this is what I have found out. They will not commit…they want another debate…there is one on Fox…too bad about that on 1/16. They are leaning (I have a Conservative area) pretty close to where I live…Perry…Gingrich and Santorum. I can knock out Santorum…because they don’t like the spending. I can more or less suggest that I don’t trust Gingrich…because of his history with the Congress..in other words..is it all about the “inside” jobs. I have to watch that with them. They are looking at Perry and Gingrich. BTW…the people never knew about Perry’s spine fusion either. They were VERY understanding, once they knew.

I encourage all of you…and also because personal contact is better than some politician playing a robo call. I just hang up on that. So…please…get on the phone early…we can turn this around.

Carolyn

cbartlett

nt

carolynr

Perry is not an advocate of OWA. Those people believe in wealth redistribution. See how the media has turned that against Perry. What I said on Politico is this…if you are in a race, you either win or lose. But…LET US RUN THE RACE. This business that someone comes in and takes over a company and leaves people with nothing is entirely different than some trust fund babies crying that they should have more for not doing anything. Don’t you agree.

Tbone

exactly what you wanted to hear and you would be one of my biggest fans.

My problem is I am too honest to be a politician but I can lie very, very effectively.

sunshinek67

Melody Warbington (rwm52)

…

carolynr

Do you think….just maybe that the MSM has had something to do with this. He’s tried. I’m on the phone bank…I’ve been to Texas…I’m not a politician and I am not getting paid…I’ve seen what he is talking about and I will do everything I can to help him get elected. Know why….because the other choices won’t work for you. Perry will. What do you think he will tell people about that &)&) Kyoto Treaty…the same thing he did in Texas with those Obama light bulbs..shove it….the same thing the Head of the Canadian government did…they won’t participate. What do you think Gingrich would do. He’s on that global warming deal. What about Santorum? Is his strengths in fiscal discipline or social conservatism. Romney…you know the answer. You have to go with someone who has guts. Romney doesn’t…he calls in his Mommy, Christie, every time someone hurts his feelings or criticizes his agenda.

carolynr

the Dems registered Independent 90 days prior. NH is not a Republican primary…anyone can vote. So…what do you think happened there?????

bzip

Thanks much for the picture. It goes nicely with a tweet I just saw;

https://twitter.com/#!/Rebecca_CBSNJ
Raucus crowd here in Aiken, SC giving huge cheers for Perry’s part-time Congress and balanced budget amendments.

I actually get more information form these tweets then news channels .

It better be Perry as the nominee or we can kiss conservatism good bye.

carolynr

nt

carolynr

NH….McCain won New Hampshire…so what.

I talked to those people in Iowa. I’ve been talking to people in SC. One big difference…Iowa was open to everyone…and so is NH. SC isn’t. Besides…Ethanol is not a factor…and guess what…it’s gone..except for the blending.

Here’s what I heard from a woman in SC. She has people in PA…and there was a huge ethanol plant there. Because the government said no to ethanol subsidies…the plan shut down. So…Iowa…if anyone is reading…see all that BS that the rest of the candidates were spouting…well…you’re out in the cold anyway. Add to the fact that another Wall Street Insider, Jon Corzine from MF Global just took all you money…wouldn’t you ask yourself…why did I vote for that dumb &*&)…meaning Romney

pttx333

what I see.

Not giving you any breaks here, Spartan. If you don’t want to vote for Perry, then don’t – simple as that.

carolynr

OK…Ren…you and I have had disagreements…but you need to understand the meaning of venture capitalist. They are people that Invest “seed” monies into NEW businesses to insure they make it.

Perry’s remark about a vulture capitalist are exactly on target. Bain Capital took companies that were showing a weakness and stripped out their money and left the people with nothing. What I would like to know is this: Did they feign the venture part, i.e., saying that they would give them seed money…in order to gain equity in the company and then dissolve it.

So…you and I are going to run a race. One of us is going to be the winner. Don’t you think we have the right to win or lose…and even more important….run the race. Without letting those two companies fail on their own…these people feel used.

This is very different than OWS people who believe in redistribution of wealth for the sake of redistribution. Do I believe that Wall Street bigshots…like Romney …said one thing and did another…it wouldn’t be the first time for him…and to lead a company into thinking that they were providing seed money, when in fact they were gaining equity in the company to strip it so they could finance other ventures.

Don’t believe me on what a venture capitalist is…go google it…Perry was right…those people in SC feel like they have been had…and they have nothing to show for it. They weren’t allowed to fail on their own…that they could have swallowed a lot easier.

texastaxpayer

Let’s begin with the FACT that you don’t know the first thing about me, my life or how I make my decisions. So don’t take the luxary of assuming you know what I would or would not do in a given set of circumstances. You can shove your ‘assumptions’ anywhere they will fit.

Second you betray yourself with your 2 item list. Romeny and crew made tens of millions in “management fees” from companies they purchased. Used the companies credit to borrow the money to pay these “fees” and then after raiding the pension funds dumped the company and its workforce into bankruptcy. Now perhaps you are a person who looks at this and doesnt ask the question. Why would a man who was born rich, who could of made a ton of money doing anything he chose choose to use these tactics to make a quick buck for himself and his foriegn investors? I am not such a person. I would like at least a basic explination from Romeny for this decision. To attack Perry for asking a simple question that so many such as myself would like answered demonstrates a lack of character on your part that is not easily dismissed. To wrap these attacks in Mom, apple pie and the american flag is almost Obamaesque. You should really spend sometime looking in the mirror and ask yourself just what type of person you are? You may need to do some soul searching here bro… You strike me as the kind of person that beleives its not how you play the game its if you win or loose. Guess that explains why Romney appeals to you huh….

sunshinek67

Arlette Saenz, Rebecca Kaplan and Carrie Dann are three of my favorites. Peter Hamby sometimes has stuff on Perry events. A couple of other Texas reporters following Perry, their name escapes me, but they don’t seem to post as much (no surprise). I absolutely agree with you, I am getting close to 100% of my news from Twitter and RedState/Hot Air. Turned the tv off months ago unless somebody posts a Perry alert lol Ban Fox News/ Sean Hannity!

Getting a lot of news on Twitter does have it’s issues, though, as it seems their system drops folks that I am following.

JSobieski

Summary of our communications:

TexasTaxpayer: A campaign is NOT time for an economics 101 discussion

Me: Reagan would disagree with that point. He saw campaigns as an opportunity to educate voters

TexasTaxpayer: Romney is no Reagan

Me: Never said he was a Reagan. Did say that we need to educate voters, not punt on economic complexitis

Texas Taxpayer:Perry asking questions about Bain capital is part of the education process

Me: The term “vulture capitalism” is not a good way for Republicans to educate the public about free market entrepreneurship. That is the kind of language used by leftists. Perry implied that what Romney did was unethical

Texas Taxpayer: How dare you insult me, you know nothing about me.

Me: Never insulted you. Never said I knew squat about you. Said PERRY—you know the limited government candidate—was not educating voters on capitalism in a way that made sense.

First, you misinterpret an insult to Reagan that I didn’t make. Now you misinterpret an sinult to you that was directed to Perry.

Is there any point in responding to each other is you are going go get incensed based on things I don’t say.

I have no doubt that Bain’s consulting fees are overpriced—management consultants to me are useless and I would never hire one. However, the a Republican should not use the phrase “vulture capitalism” when what needs to be done is have markets explained.

Spartan4Life

Ever since I sent him $100 back in August I get an email from Anita just about every day. I have been all in for Perry waiting for him to get his stride. But to say he has done his job and the voters just don’t get it is crying over spilt milk. It is the candidates job to get the message out and excite the voters. That’s all I’m saying.

Spartan4Life

Ever since I sent him $100 back in August I get an email from Anita just about every day. I have been all in for Perry waiting for him to get his stride. But to say he has done his job and the voters just don’t get it is crying over spilt milk. It is the candidates job to get the message out and excite the voters. That’s all I’m saying.

carolynr

Did you notice who Obama threatened????

From now thru November 2012 this should be required weekly or at least monthly, reading BY ALL WHO VOTE!!!

Did you notice who Obama threatened when he wasn’t getting his way on raising the debt ceiling?

He threatened to not pay: Social Security Retirees, Military Retirees, Social Security disability and Federal Retirees.

Now.. Let this sink in really good -

He did not threaten to stop payments to illegal aliens

He did not threatened to take frivolous benefits such as Internet access away from violent inmates

He did not offer to fire some of the thousands of unnecessary federal employees that he hired

He did not offer to cut down on his or his wife’s frivolous gallivanting around

He did not threaten to not pay the senators and representatives or any of their staff

He did not threaten to take benefits away from welfare recipients

He did not threaten the food stamp programs

He did not threaten to not pay foreign aid

He did not threaten to cut back on anything that involves his base voters

The list could go on and on. He is in full political re-election mode!

Why are we allowing this person to destroy this wonderful country with his selfishness and his lies?

His type of change is killing our country. He needs to be stopped and only our votes can stop him.

Do not forget about his tactics when it’s election time. Vote Obama out of the Presidency in 2012.

carolynr

With the exception of Fox…and Hannity…did anyone know anything about Obama…No…he didn’t get the message out…his message was the same as those in the media…these people are left wing ideologues. The collective…that is what they believe in.

Look at the way the debates were handled. Could Perry have done a better job…sure he could have. Did he cry and moan about the back….no. Yet…somebody hurts Romney and his mommy, Christie comes a running. The Obama Administration wants Romney…because he is beatable.

Like Perry said…they no more want me in Washington than the Devil wants to drink Holy Water. These are the lobbyists, the press, the old guard Republicans…and all the leftists in this country along with the doles on our dime.

He beat the Clinton Machine..why…because the press and the insiders wanted it that way. How many people wish they had voted for Hilliary…but no…we had to have a Black President. I say that because they do. Why doesn’t Obama just call himself an American…that way…the supposed “collective” would have meaning. Oh…and I sent him $100 back then also. I’m not giving up on the guy.

texastaxpayer

Otherwise spare us both.

greyeagle

How do you know how much money Perry has? Santorum is the one who does not have money and he will likely have to drop out either before or after Florida. Newt super pac got money, but he doesn’t have enough to run a national campaign. Perry does for now.

greyeagle

This is great! We need more of things like this to post everywhere it is allowed!

greyeagle

are trying to gain using courts what they can’t win in elections.

greyeagle

Speak for yourself. You don’t have a clue how much money Perry may have. 70% of the voters want anyone else than Mitt.

greyeagle

If you live in TX, then you should know that Perry is a hawk on cutting spending. I do.

greyeagle

I sent an e-mail to him stating that my family had watched Fox from its inception. However, they had moved to the left and We would no longer watch FOX. I stated several scenarios, the two debates, several programs when the staff was disparaging and borderline rude to Governor Perry. I also stated that they were no longer Fair and Balanced and should no longer used those terms. I also said it was very obvious they were in the tank for Romney, since they were pushing him for all they are worth. I also said the behavior and comments of his staff about Governor Perry had been noticed and has been discussed on several web sites, which is true. Obviously, I did not get a reply.

greyeagle

Perry did not even bother with NH. SC and Florida are next.

greyeagle

Are not predictive of a candidate. Too early to determine.

pttx333

already know the things you’re ranting about? Just where do you live in Texas anyway?

greyeagle

That Perry had the best economic plan and monetary plan of all the candidates.

greyeagle

Oh, I paid plenty of attention to this one with those medal of honor winners and military heroes. Perry and his wife have helped a lot of them without fanfare or the media. Those heroes have chosen to honor Governor Perry with their presence in this and other ads.

texasdad

I’m new to this… So I’m dumbfounded by what’s going on… I am from a border town in light Texas… What I do know for sure about Perry is he chose not to use the rainy day fund to balance the budget and instead chose to cut taxes.. mainly education.. but that’s fine.. I aver with what he did… Since when did schools have to look like profit making colleges???? I applaud him for cutting expenses…. This action made him a bad guy to the public unions, the teachers… But still, after 11 years as governors of a MAJOR state as well as a leadership position in the country’s governor association, one would thinly that he could rally lots of republican endorsements

texasdad

I’m new to this… So I’m dumbfounded by what’s going on… I am from a border town in south Texas… What I do know for sure about Perry is he chose not to use the rainy day fund to balance the budget and instead chose to cut taxes.. mainly education.. but that’s fine.. I agre with what he did… Since when did schools have to look like profit making colleges???? I applaud him for cutting expenses…. This action made him a bad guy to the public unions, the teachers… But still, after 11 years as governors of a MAJOR state as well as a leadership position in the country’s governor association, one would think that he could rally lots of republican endorsements

olds88er

You seem to think that the Bain connection will sink Romney. Are you not aware of all of the negatives compiled by Obama?

pttx333

I don’t know how to find all of the stuff here on RS, but there are some fabulous diaries/tutorials that address every single issue and then some – both pro and con.

As for the budget, you do know that state law mandates that the budget be balanced each and every year, don’t you? It HAS to be done. As for the cuts in the schools, etc., that is left up to the individual school districts and has nothing to do with Austin.

As for the rainy day fund, do you know that when the wildfires were raging in Texas that b.o. refused to help us? Where did that money come from? Do you know that Texas uses its own funds to the tune of approx. $400M attempting to support our borders?

As for endorsements, he does have some. But do you know how very, very little endorsements count in the grand scheme of things? Not much.

By the way, where is “a border town in light Texas” … which border? With Mexico? Is “light” a town?

Juggernaut

the donor list wasn’t dead yet. Billionaire Steve Forbes is backing Perry so I think he’s in through NV.

I partly agree both used leftist imagery, it would have been better if Mitt had used another response because his calling it leftist guaranteed dems would never forget . Better for both to avoid anti anything but Mitt’s career is an open book plus Mitt said Newt should give back the consulting money….that’s not wise either considering the narrative they both opened up.

This link should make sense

http://www.redstate.com/williamjameson/2012/01/11/romney-the-1st-anti-capitalist-right/

kegan05

I just watched the Mitt Video and it left me with a sickening feeling in the pit of my stomach. If the majority of American voters watch this Video, Romney is toast. Comrade Obozo will tear him to pieces.

Just my opinion.

trickamsterdam

So, it’s whoever’s on the ballot…even if they’ve dropped out. Keep voting for anyone but Romney.

Yes, obviously, you vote for the one most like yourself.

The most important thing is people keep voting…not thinking it’s over.

Also, working on the idea that a brokered convention, itself, is bad, which I’ve run onto even here.

Paul’s the most likely one to keep going until he just falls over…Santorum and Newt next. But really, it’s about denying him (Romney) the 50% of the delegates…the rest will be decided at the convention.

The thing I think some here fear (not ridiculous) is that Rep Paul would then acquire enough power to be VP. . Unlikely (old as he is, he’d probably want something where he had real power).

And anyway, I’ll take a Ryan/Paul or Rubio/Paul over Romney/whatever…in other words: it’s worth the risk. IMO.

Samsara

nt

State	Delegates	Portion	Date	Filing	Complete

Iowa caucus	28	1.20%	Jan 3, 2012	-	1.20%
NH Primary	12	0.50%	Jan 10, 2012	past	1.80%
SC Primary	25	1.10%	Jan 21, 2012	past	2.90%
FL Primary	50	2.20%	Jan 31, 2012	past	5.10%
NV Caucus	28	1.20%	Feb 4, 2012	-	6.30%
ME Caucus	24	1.10%	2/4-11/12	-	7.40%
CO Caucus	36	1.60%	Feb 7, 2012	-	9.00%
MN Caucus	40	1.80%	Feb 7, 2012	-	10.70%
AZ Primary	29	1.30%	Feb 28, 2012	Jan 9, 2012	12.00%
MI Primary	30	1.30%	Feb 28, 2012	past	13.30%
WA Caucus	43	1.90%	Mar 3, 2012	-	15.20%
Pre-Super Tuesday	345	15.20%

State	Delegates	Portion	Date	Filing	Complete
AK Caucus	27	1.20%	Mar 6, 2012	-	16.40%
GA Primary	76	3.40%	Mar 6, 2012	past	19.80%
ID Caucus	32	1.40%	Mar 6, 2012	-	21.20%
MA Primary	41	1.80%	Mar 6, 2012	past	23.00%
ND Caucus	28	1.20%	Mar 6, 2012	-	24.20%
OK Primary	43	1.90%	Mar 6, 2012	past	26.10%
TN Primary	58	2.60%	Mar 6, 2012	past	28.70%
TX Primary	155	6.80%	Mar 6, 2012	past	35.60%
VE Primary	17	0.80%	Mar 6, 2012	Jan 9, 2012	36.30%
VA Primary	49	2.20%	Mar 6, 2012	past	38.50%
Vir Islands Caucus	9	0.40%	Mar 6, 2012	-	38.90%
WY Caucus	29	1.30%	Mar 6, 2012	-	40.20%
Super Tuesday	564	24.90%



State	Delegates	Portion	Date	Filing	Complete
KS Caucus	40	1.80%	Mar 10, 2012	-	41.90%
AL Primary	50	2.20%	Mar 13, 2012	Jan 13, 2012	44.10%
Haw Caucus	20	0.90%	Mar 13, 2012	-	45.00%
MS Primary	38	1.70%	Mar 13, 2012	Jan 14, 2012	46.70%
Am Samoa Caucus	9	0.40%	Mar 13, 2012	-	47.10%
Missouri Caucus	52	2.30%	Mar 17, 2012	-	49.40%
Puerto Rico Caucus	23	1.00%	Mar 18, 2012	-	50.40%
IL Primary	69	3.00%	Mar 20, 2012	past	53.40%
LA Primary	45	2.00%	Mar 24, 2012	past	55.40%
DC Primary	19	0.80%	Apr 3, 2012	past	56.30%
MD Primary	37	1.60%	Apr 3, 2012	Jan 11, 2012	57.90%
WI Primary	42	1.90%	Apr 3, 2012	Jan 11, 2012	59.80%
Conn Primary	28	1.20%	Apr 24, 2012	Mar 2, 2012	61.00%
DE Primary	17	0.80%	Apr 24, 2012	Feb 24, 2012	61.70%
NY Primary	95	4.20%	Apr 24, 2012	Feb 9, 2012	65.90%
PA Primary	72	3.20%	Apr 24, 2012	Feb 14, 2012	69.10%
RI Primary	19	0.80%	Apr 24, 2012	Jan 21, 2012	70.00%
IN Primary	46	2.00%	May 8, 2012	Feb 10, 2012	72.00%
NC Primary	55	2.40%	May 8, 2012	Feb 29, 2012	74.40%
WV Primary	31	1.40%	May 8, 2012	Jan 28, 2012	75.80%
NE Primary	34	1.50%	May 15, 2012	Mar 7, 2012	77.30%
OR Primary	28	1.20%	May 15, 2012	Mar 6, 2012	78.50%
Ark Primary	36	1.60%	May 22, 2012	Mar 1, 2012	80.10%
KY Primary	45	2.00%	May 22, 2012	Jan 31, 2012	82.10%
CA Primary	172	7.60%	Jun 5, 2012	Mar 23, 2012	89.70%
MT Primary	26	1.10%	Jun 5, 2012	Mar 12, 2012	90.90%
NJ Primary	50	2.20%	Jun 5, 2012	Apr 2, 2012	93.10%
NM Primary	23	1.00%	Jun 5, 2012	Mar 16, 2012	94.10%
SD Primary	28	1.20%	Jun 5, 2012	Mar 27, 2012	95.30%
OH Primary	66	2.90%	Jun 12, 2012	Mar 14, 2012	98.20%
UT Primary	40	1.80%	Jun 26, 2012	Mar 15, 2012	100.00%
Post-Super Tuesday	1355	59.80%

Total Delegates	2264	100.00%

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