On and on it goes.
Republicans in Congress cut deals with Democrats. The Republicans’ favorite reporters and pundits tell us just how awesome those deals are. Then those deals blow up in our faces.
More tragically, then the same Republican leaders who negotiated those deals go back and negotiate the next deals and the same reporters and pundits at the same publications who told the last ones were so awesome tell us these are so awesome and then these deals too blow up in our faces. Conservatives always raise the alarm. The Republicans always run to the usual suspects to spin their way out of the mess.
On Facebook yesterday, Senator Jim DeMint noted this folly. Republicans were supposed to have big wins on the debt ceiling and on the Keystone XL Pipeline. They told us they had played the Democrats. Instead, we played ourselves.
From Senator DeMint:
The two political victories leading Republicans planned on celebrating today only showcase how much we have to lose by compromising with the Democrats.
The non-binding vote of disapproval on the debt ceiling increase held in the House today and the Obama Administration’s decision not to authorize the Keystone Pipeline were supposed to be excruciating political exercises for the Democrats. They turned out to be a walk in the park.
Instead of generating a great public uproar over the debt, economy, and jobs, all President Obama had to do was reiterate his long-held positions—that the debt ceiling should be increased and the Keystone Pipeline should not be authorized.
Giving the President exactly what he wants and then asking him to remind the public that he wanted it after the fact isn’t a strategy to win. It’s a strategy to cover-up a stunning loss under the guise of a compromise.
Steve Maley
Daniel Horowitz
And we are about to
stumpy Wednesday, January 18th at 9:07PM EDT (link)nominate a serial compromiser who will give us more of the same.
Thanks Erick for standing so proudly for conservative values
bzip Wednesday, January 18th at 9:16PM EDT (link)Thanks for selling us out, Erick.
bzip, that is uncalled for.
Melody Warbington (rwm52) (Diary) Wednesday, January 18th at 9:26PM EDT (link)If you feel that strongly, why are you here? Shouldn’t your principles demand you not hang around on a site whose editor you think has sold you out?
The woman saith unto him, I know that Messiah cometh (he that is called Christ): when he is come, he will declare unto us all things. (John 4:25)
Many other contributors to this site
votemout2012 Thursday, January 19th at 12:17AM EDT (link)Who think Perry on conservative in the race.
Wait...what?
ghostship Wednesday, January 18th at 9:29PM EDT (link)When exactly did Erick sell out conservatives?
If anything Erick has been one to continuously call for holding the Republicans in D.C. feet to the fire.
He's a candibot.
Bill S (Diary) Wednesday, January 18th at 9:48PM EDT (link)Everything is about his candidate, relevant or not.. His comment has nothing to do with this diary. It’s a threadjack, and it’s going to stop here.
“It’s such a fine line between stupid, and clever.” – David St. Hubbins
Hard time reading Erick's diary
votemout2012 Thursday, January 19th at 12:13AM EDT (link)After throwing the only fiscal and social conservative Perry under the bus I have mixed feelings even coming to this blog. DeMint is no different from Palin and Erick. When we have a candidate for Prez who can actually change DC these cowards are no where to be found.
Social Conservative? Perry?
Bruce_A_Frank Thursday, January 19th at 1:31PM EDT (link)Uh, have you actually listened to the things he has said about illegal immigrants. He is not the solution, he is part of the problem. I cheered when he joined the race. I booed when he choked on his ridicules explanation of in-state tuition. I cheer his leaving!
BZ, isn't it possible that Erick just has a different assessment of the race?
JSobieski (Diary) Thursday, January 19th at 12:23AM EDT (link)Accusing people of selling out just because you disagree with them or are angry doesn’t make sense.
Who paid Erick to write this?
Did you know that China has been losing manufacturing jobs since 1995? For the specific data, see Table 1 in the following link: http://www.bls.gov/opub/mlr/2005/07/art2full.pdf
I think that's a very likely explanation, JSob.
jakeofalltrades (Diary) Thursday, January 19th at 12:26AM EDT (link)Erick just has a different assessment. Stay tuned for next week’s radically different assessment!
If the assessments keep changing, their predictive power drops, and they are no longer much worth as a guide. I’ve only been here like 14 weeks, and the seemingly-final assessments have been all over the places.
How about: chill and let the process play out, as you say?
Jim DeMint
CarolT (Diary) Wednesday, January 18th at 9:17PM EDT (link)Senator DeMint should be the GOP leader in the Senate and McConnell should step down. I also hope Senator DeMint reconsiders retiring from the senate when his term is up, unless it is to run for POTUS in 2016.
I agree
DerKrieger (Diary) Wednesday, January 18th at 9:41PM EDT (link)Leadership positions should be reserved for fighters, not weak kneed compromises. We need people who will push back the socialists and not just slow their progress.
“In questions of power, let no more be heard of confidence in man, but bind him down from mischief by the chains of the Constitution.” – Thomas Jefferson
“I cannot undertake to lay my finger on that article of the Constitution which granted a right to Congress of expending, on objects of benevolence, the money of their constituents.” – James Madison
Whenever the legislators endeavor to take away and destroy the property of the people, or to reduce them to slavery under arbitrary power, they put themselves into a state of war with the people, who are thereupon absolved from any further obedience.” — John Locke, 1690
You are loosing your credibility extremely fast
Kyle-MI (Diary) Wednesday, January 18th at 9:40PM EDT (link)They have only just announced the keystone decision. You seriously don’t think this will be an issue in the Presidential election?
I still like Redstate, but frankly reading your diaries is becoming a waste of time.
I agree.
docaja Wednesday, January 18th at 10:03PM EDT (link)So much whining and wishing for miracles, so little concrete activism.
'-MI, EE's take is obtuse, but for drastically different reasons - more
Mike gamecock DeVine (Diary) Wednesday, January 18th at 10:04PM EDT (link)later in a blurb below and even more later, possibly in a column…smile
Mike DeVine’s Examiner.com and Charlotte Observer columns
“One man with courage makes a majority.” – Andrew Jackson
Lay it on us Gamecock... Quit with the tease.
snowshooze (Diary) Wednesday, January 18th at 10:08PM EDT (link)I expect nothing less than excellent. So don’t fudge.
The MOST significant truth revealed by the Keystone decision is how bad are Obama's internal campaign polls
Mike gamecock DeVine (Diary) Wednesday, January 18th at 10:08PM EDT (link)If he is so dependent on wrapping up the relatively small far left enviro-wacko base and its money despite the massive negatives of owning the loss of so many jobs for so many years, not to mention the strategic aspects, it shows just how much its most always the economy stupid! and how out of touch and discredited are the democrats.
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“One man with courage makes a majority.” – Andrew Jackson
but more to EE's point and DeMint, the vote on this by the GOP last year forced Obama
Mike gamecock DeVine (Diary) Wednesday, January 18th at 10:12PM EDT (link)to make an early choice rather than keeping his limbo position alive thru the election. Now he has publicly killed the jobs after a 3-year study, trying to make Americans think that we have to re-think pipeline technology! The King has no clothes.
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trevorb (Diary) Wednesday, January 18th at 10:15PM EDT (link)only good news is that Obama is screwed. He’s going to anger the unions by doing this. Not only that, but when that oil goes to China, people are going to be furious. One thing to care about the environment, but when it means it’s more expensive to drive, people will not be happy.
More expensive to drive is nothing compared to heating oil
CarolT (Diary) Thursday, January 19th at 12:52AM EDT (link)I have a heating oil bill for $668 for 171.7 gallons and I and many in MA are dependent on oil heat. We cannot afford to change to natural gas, that is a huge investment, we are middle class and live on one paycheck. I do not drive much but this heating oil bill is an outrage. I have list of how much money this alone has cost me, it has not been this high since winter of 2007-2008.
There are some under the delusion that the GOP could force Obama to accept the pipeline
Kyle-MI (Diary) Wednesday, January 18th at 10:27PM EDT (link)They mistakenly think that the only GOP win would have been that forced acceptance. Therefore, killing the pipeline is a GOP loss and the strategy of forcing this decision was a GOP bungle. Unless I am misreading him, that seems to be EE’s point of view.
No, the idea that compromising to get ANYTHING is our problem.
ceili_dancer (Diary) Wednesday, January 18th at 11:22PM EDT (link)Kind of like Chamberlain waving a piece of paper declaring peace in our time. Or a movie scene , in Braveheart before a battle and the highlanders were ready to walk off the field. One of thew “nobles” waves his arm yelling something akin to, wait, don’t leave, we haven’t had our negotiations yet. It’s all about the pundocracy and the “leadership” getting face time on news shows to declare how brilliant they are.
you nailed it Kyle'! Congress can't force a President to DO anything in foreign policy
Mike gamecock DeVine (Diary) Thursday, January 19th at 8:05AM EDT (link)They can only stop things from happening. In this case they called his bluff and forced him to publicly kill the jobs for yet another year that we can never get back.
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“One man with courage makes a majority.” – Andrew Jackson
Don't give up to quickly!
fightinmad Thursday, January 19th at 8:32AM EDT (link)I have thought about this last 3.5 years and have watched the workings of our political leaders (I use the term loosely) and their actions. We need to remember to learn from History. When judgment comes to a nation God has a pattern He uses to do it. First, that nation becomes led by fools. I can argue that point easily, we are being led by fools on both sides of the aisle. You all express the same disdain even with our so-called Republican leaders (?). Next, God overruns the country with foreigners. Then everyone starts doing what is right in their own eyes. Lastly, the country goes broke or is broken by an invasion from the outside. Now, we are seeing these things unfold everyday at breakneck speed. However, I can see where God has taken the “king’s” heart and made him do a really stupid thing,by stopping the pipeline. That one act is sure to wake up many folks. We all have heat bills, gas bills, electric bills etc. and our pocket books are just about empty. I think that will have a huge influence on the vote. The only concern I have is, is it to late! But of course there is a larger plan for this world that everyone talks about in various religious forms but few really take to heart. Armageddon! Either way I win.
The last time that God physically dealt with His creation
4suramcan Thursday, January 19th at 10:44AM EDT (link)was when He sacrificed Himself thru His son, Jesus. Therefore, fightinmad, God did not do any of the things you mentioned. The country has done it to themselves. God left us with His word, which is our guidelines for living. We have rejected those words. And we are paying the price. “man does not live by bread alone but by every word of God” Lk 4;4. The forces that are pushing the destruction of America are
The last time that God physically dealt with His creation
4suramcan Thursday, January 19th at 10:48AM EDT (link)was when He sacrificed Himself thru His son, Jesus. Therefore, fightinmad, God did not do any of the things you mentioned. The country has done it to themselves. God left us with His word, which is our guidelines for living. We have rejected those words. And we are paying the price. “man does not live by bread alone but by every word of God” Lk 4;4. The forces that are pushing the destruction of America are very powerful and will not go down easily, if at all. Prophecy WILL be fulfilled and it is well underway, moving now at a breathtaking speed.
I think you are more correct there, Mike GC.
BA Cyclone (Diary) Thursday, January 19th at 9:21AM EDT (link)Technically it is only a *loss* for the GOP if you held out hope that The Obama would just *have* to approve the XL pipeline.
But we can still call this a partial GOP win because The Obama can no longer pretend that he *might* approve the pipeline at some point in the future after the November election…well after buyer’s remorse has no consequence to a re-elected Obama.
The Obama can only try to spin and whine “three years was too fast!” and only the enviro-nuts and pre-dedicated Obama voters will buy that. It’s important that the real message gets out to the squishy middle and “union voters” that are no pre-dedicated to voting D in the election.
“If Congress can do whatever in their discretion can be done by money, and will promote the General Welfare, the Government is no longer a limited one, possessing enumerated powers, but an indefinite one, subject to particular exceptions.” — James Madison
“Electing Republicans who don’t have the courage of their convictions may be easier in some circumstances, but it won’t save our country.” — Jim DeMint
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While I tend to agree with you here...
texastaxpayer (Diary) Wednesday, January 18th at 10:15PM EDT (link)I have never been a member of the “Obama is stupid” camp, which leads me to believe there must be something more to this. Surely we are missing something significant for him take a stand that is going to hurt him so deeply in this political environment. I look forward to your article and what you find…
“Texas will again lift it’s head and stand among the nations. It ought to do so, for no country upon the globe can compare with it in natural advantages.” Sam Houston
the question is
trevorb (Diary) Wednesday, January 18th at 10:32PM EDT (link)how long is Canada going to wait? They may just decide “screw this, we’ll sell it to someone else”.
IMHO, Obama thinks he can spin this
Kyle-MI (Diary) Wednesday, January 18th at 10:32PM EDT (link)Obama is certainly not stupid, but he is blinded by his own ideology and self confidence. He thinks he can sell this on environmental grounds and even spin it to blame the GOP on forcing him to decide against the pipeline. He also thinks the press will cover for him enough to achieve that spin goal.
I'm sure
trevorb (Diary) Thursday, January 19th at 4:38AM EDT (link)the media will blame the Republicans, which is stupid, but since when has the media made sense?
What he should consider is what the public will say if and when gas prices go up again and they realize that it would be cheaper if we had the pipeline. Even if he can spin it, it still doesn’t look good for him.
I agree with you completely, trevorb
Kyle-MI (Diary) Thursday, January 19th at 8:45AM EDT (link)Obama will try to spin it, but it is so obviously his fault only the most hard-core leftists will buy it. In fact, it is such an obvious political ploy that he will get doubly burned by it.
Obama Campaign Strategy
jonbg Thursday, January 19th at 5:18AM EDT (link)The way that Obama framed his decision implies that the Obama strategy of “running against an obstructionist Republican Congress*” is still operative.
In other words, “the obstructionist Republican Congress*” made me cancel Keystone because they set up an artificial deadline that didn’t allow enough time for a reasoned decision on such a complex project. The only way it would work is if the media spin it this way too.
* even though the Republicans only control the House
and
trevorb (Diary) Thursday, January 19th at 5:52AM EDT (link)have passed bills that continue to die in the Democrat-controlled Senate, but hey, don’t let the truth get in the way of a good story!
I find it significant that even his own jobs board are now stating that we need to cut taxes and get spending under control.
Obama is getting very bold
4suramcan Thursday, January 19th at 10:51AM EDT (link)His intention is to ruin the country before the election.
Obama's response was expected...
HaroldHutchison (Diary) Thursday, January 19th at 9:16AM EDT (link)Keystone was a win because it forced Obama to choose between job creation/energy security and his political base.
The decision will be hung around his neck when gas prices go higher. There’s enough to make it stick now.
totally agree HH - and yes 'mcan, I do think Obama is lashing out
Mike gamecock DeVine (Diary) Thursday, January 19th at 12:13PM EDT (link)at America…
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Again, yes, conservatives were right.
kinggold Wednesday, January 18th at 10:09PM EDT (link)And again, they didn’t have enough power in Washington to make the changes they wanted. Just like the last time, and the time before last.
Because some folks – no names here – decided that it was a better move to make a point and a power play than to fight for every single Senate seat, and thus put Harry Reid back in charge.
give me a break kingold...do you really expect us to believe anything would be different if Mike Castle was a Senator?
AceInTX (Diary) Wednesday, January 18th at 10:39PM EDT (link)Really?
Oh…and instead of blaming conservatives for the loss of those Senate Seats…why don’t you blame the RINO establishments in DE, NV, CO and a couple other states who formed committees and worked to elect the Democrats rather than back the Conservative nominee?
What an ass!
correction...I meant "Establishmentarians" nt
AceInTX (Diary) Wednesday, January 18th at 10:40PM EDT (link).
Specifically with respect to Nevada, Ace...
mbecker908 (Diary) Wednesday, January 18th at 10:50PM EDT (link)I’d happily take somebody who votes with Democrats 75% of the time to get rid of Harry Reid.
And frankly, I’d much rather have Mike Castle than the current bearded socialist from Delaware – who will be in that seat until he dies.
and concerning my question about the RINO's in state party leadership who formed Republicans for Ried
AceInTX (Diary) Wednesday, January 18th at 11:15PM EDT (link)in NV and in other states?
I’m sick of having the finger jammed in my face for standing up for what I believe by people who keep backing the same losing strategies and who accuse Conservatives of disloyalty when it is THEY who leave the party when they don’t get their way.
I'm not jamming my finger in your face Ace.
mbecker908 (Diary) Wednesday, January 18th at 11:21PM EDT (link)I don’t like the party regulars or what they did in either DE or NV. They should be purged, but that’s in the future and wins in those states were both “should have beens”. It’s unfortunate that we nominated a pair of raving idiots, but we’d still be better off right now with Castle and any Republican in NV other than Angle.
I didn't accuse you of jamming your finger in my face...
AceInTX (Diary) Wednesday, January 18th at 11:30PM EDT (link)I’m talking about kingold and his comment that begins this thread….and people like little miss Lyndsey Graham who stood up and beat his chest and tore his cloths and covered himself in ashes over how Conservatives were the reason we didn’t achieve a majority in the Senate as if there weren’t RINOs out there working with Democrats to defeat the Republican Nominee….it happened in DE and NV….and I think CO there were “Republicans for Democrat X” committees formed with state Republican Party members in leadership actively working with the Democrats to defeat the Republican Nominees….but we’re supposed to act like they don’t exist…and take the blame from empty headed limp Richards like Kinggold!
Well…I’m not laying down for it!
And again you ignored my question mbecker...Do you really believe things would be any different in the Senate if Castle were a Senator?
AceInTX (Diary) Wednesday, January 18th at 11:33PM EDT (link)Can you make the claim that McConnell would have given away any less of the store than he has if Angle or O’Donnel had lost the primaries?
And can you do it with a straight face?
Yes. We'd have one more vote for Senate Majority Leader.
mbecker908 (Diary) Thursday, January 19th at 1:22AM EDT (link)Would he vote like I like? No, and probably most of the time, but that’s still better than ALL the time with the current and future senator from DE.
As far as McConnell goes, that discussion has nothing to do with this one. He’s a problem unto himself. And he’d give away the store if we had 65 Republican Senators.
My point exactly
AceInTX (Diary) Thursday, January 19th at 6:47AM EDT (link)Compromising our principles to have a couple more liberal Senators who call themselves Republican wouldn’t make a bit of difference and Conservatives are not to blame for the current state of affairs in the Senate….
and I will once again make the point…which you insist on ignoring…that the RINOs who formed “Republicans for Democrat X” bear as much if not more responsibility for the failure to win the Senate as conservatives do…and I’m sick of the prattling on about Conservatives proving points from a bunch of self righteous, unprincipled, compromising blow hards.
Oh...and my question was...do you really think things would be different in the Senate if Mike Castle were a Senator?
AceInTX (Diary) Wednesday, January 18th at 11:18PM EDT (link)Can you seriously make the claim that McConnell would behave any differently…and compromise any less if he had a couple of more compromisers in his caucus?
Can you do so with a straight face?
Hear! Hear!
michaelbowler Thursday, January 19th at 5:59AM EDT (link)Precisely correct, no qualifiers.
What was the alternative?
Adjoran (Diary) Thursday, January 19th at 1:07AM EDT (link)Shut down the government, let the bonds be downgraded, and take our chances on losing the independents right away?
It might have worked – or it might not have. It would have been a gamble, though. Gambles are easy for those watching the game.
If there was another viable alternative, where was it at the time? Where is it even now? Or is this just another whining that “Hey we won the House but still don’t control Washington” so many seem to be stuck on?
The plan adopted avoided a shutdown and downgrade or default (the one that happened is based on our lack of debt reduction, which is on the Democrats) and punted the question to this year, realizing that resolution one way or the other is only possible through another election.
The public has to choose our vision or the Democrats’ vision. Divided government is great in good times to restrain what gets done, but when we need to do something drastic like close departments, we need control of House, Senate, and the White House, and the Senate by enough to at least intimidate some Democrats not to filibuster.
"Our vision"?????
mbecker908 (Diary) Thursday, January 19th at 1:24AM EDT (link)And just what would that be? You’ll not get a straight answer on that question from the Republican Leadership in DC because they don’t have one. All they want to do is keep their cushy jobs.
No, they don't, becker...but that doesn't mean Conservatives
lineholder (Diary) Thursday, January 19th at 1:42AM EDT (link)have to follow their lead in this particular case, does it?
I was reading an article day before yesterday…wish that I could remember where so I could link it. Basically, the author was providing evidence of one thing in specific that Obama has succeeded in doing that he probably had no intention whatsoever of attempting to do. He has singlehandedly, by his actions, reinvigorated interest in The Constitution of the United States. Across the political spectrum as a whole!
This is right up Conservatives’ alley, isn’t it? They could take it and run with it, establishing a vision, mission and/or values statement of their own. Even if it just a simple statement at this point of protecting and preserving the Constitution! With increased interest coming from the general public, Conservatives would be presenting the kind of message that could resonate across a broad scope of voters.
But, the only "vision" the so-called Republican leadership has
davesinsanantonio (Diary) Thursday, January 19th at 5:42AM EDT (link)is of their own re-election, And, maybe of some glowing praise from the Dimorats’ lapdog media. Which only happens when they sell out their supposed principles for some wishful thinking.
It is time to get rid of those crap-weasels and elect someone with principles.
Clearly correct, we have compromised enough.
michaelbowler Thursday, January 19th at 5:55AM EDT (link)When republicans compromise, what it really means is they caved in to the progressive democrats. It always works out this way.
Our republican representatives have no interest in fighting the system, no interest in challenging the status quo. They cower in the face of the populist rhetoric of class warfare, never challenging the precepts involved. Of course, there are exceptions but they are routinely told to shut up by the establishment. The “leaders” of the republican party are not representative of the vast majority of its supporters.
The establishment will get their way with another RINO/CINO candidate, Mitt Romney. We will be stuck with GeraldFord/BobDole/JohnMcCain again. And we will lose. Mitt Romney is a sure way to ensure four more for Barak, and the establishment is determined to give it to us…right in the rear, again.
Perry will NOT win, just as suggested. He could give us an alternative…but will he buck the establishment’s goals by sacrificing his own flagging campaign? It seems not.
Obama made a dumb mistake, he loses midwest
Juggernaut (Diary) Thursday, January 19th at 9:58AM EDT (link)voters to pay homage to envirofacists, totally pathetic. He loses more voters including unions. Oh well, it weakens him with voters who will stay home or shift the vote to the right.
GOP candidates need to say they will approve the pipeline asap once elected before China closes the deal with Canada. We can invest in a Brazilian offshore deal but no to Canada. So stupid.
RomneyCare is Right Wing Socialism –
Romney “severely conservative”? That’s the opposite of a “compassionate conservative” like George W. Bush? Actually, we know what a severely conservative is. It’s Dick Cheney and Mitt Romney is no Dick Cheney.
Fondling hands
RDCook (Diary) Thursday, January 19th at 2:08PM EDT (link)Bi partisan compromise = When the establishment Republicans and Democrats agree to slightly remove their fondling right hands from each other’s front pockets so they can reach further with their left to fleece and control the public.