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  • baracksolyndraobama

    …says so, so it must be true.

    You’ve gone so far into the deep end with your anti-Romneyism, that I wonder what your “will support whoever the nominee is” phase will be like? Will be an interesting transition. And, will CNN be willing to air it? Decisions, decisions.

  • bzip

    Nice going Erick, the sell out. Your obsession with Romney is getting old but has cost us a true conservative. Thanks for selling out.

    Why don’t yiou stop telling candidates what to do and let the American people decide for themselves or do you think you are some God?

    Erick, you make me sick you are your kind think you are so much better and have so much wisdom to tell others what to do.

  • AceInTX

    Pick one of his positions and use it to make a positive case for his election…I dare you…

    Then I will say…”Told you so when he changes his position on the subject.

  • romansdaughter

    But Erick I am thinking that a bit farther along you might be needing to apologize to Rick Perry for throwing him under the bus. Mitt isn’t so “inevitable” anymore.

  • barleycorn

    If Romney manages to win the nomination he will begin the general in a very weak position.

    a. Flip flops
    b. Moderate to liberal policies
    c. Bain.
    d. 15% tax rate
    e. I like to fire people
    f. I only made $375K from speeches
    g. Second Amendment problems
    h. Cayman Islands
    i. doggy on the roof
    j. I might release my taxes, time will tell

    Romney is a gaffe machine on the order of Joe Biden. He will be a disaster against Obama.

  • Ender

    what is the point of this?

  • circlegranch

    on target.

  • circlegranch

    sorry about the typo

  • jimbomcw

    sorry, but it is time to wake up and be an adult

    Perry is sooooo past done

  • bdirks

    A YouTube exclusive slide show with 300 total views? This doesn’t hurt. It doesn’t even matter.

  • lightspeed

    is not an admirable trait.

  • barleycorn

    Isn’t that an idiom generally applied to people in a position of strength who sacrifice underlings? I don’t see how Erick is in position to throw Gov. Perry anywhere.

    On the other hand Erick is a political commentator whose job is to say what he thinks about current events. He also leads a site which is dedicated to electing conservatives. Rick Perry can’t be elected so I see no “under the bus” issue here.

  • barleycorn

    ;-)

  • thosjefferson

    The irony of this ad is stunning! The desperate candidate is Newt, and everyone knows it. All this ad does is remind voters how desperate Newt is.

    Fantastic!

    Everyone knows McCain’s out campaigning for Romney; this ad reminds us of that, too.

    Are Newt’s ad people trying to destroy his candidacy? First the stupid “King of Bain” piece, and now this? Next thing they’ll release clips from Newt’s second wife’s interview with ABC.

    Romney never expected to win in SC; this was Newt’s state. And yet Romney has been leading steadily. Romney can lose SC and it won’t slow him one iota. But Newt losing will destroy him.

  • lquist1

    vet our candidates. The fact is, Mitt is a weak candidate and as a post earlier said, not so inevitable any more. He did not win Iowa and if he fails to win SC, even winning FL wont assure him the nomination, and by then at least one of the two Ricks will drop out of the race.

    Bottom line-if Romney can’t take a little criticism from an obscure conservative blog, how’s he going to handle the billion dollar Obama machine?

  • http://908StraightSt.wordpress.com/ mbecker908

    Look, I like Romney only a very small tweek better than I like McCain, but you gotta screw your head back on.

    1&2. Yeah, he’s held every imaginable position and governed like a liberal when he had a chance. Nobody with a conservative record wants the job or has been able to gain traction, get over it. At least he’s coming down (today) on the right side of the flips. Will it last? Who knows, but he’ll be better than Obama and better than Bush. Oh, and better than Clinton and better than Papa Bush.

    3. Bain. Democrats take more money from Bain than Republicans. Never in his time at Bain is there an allegation that he broke the law. People are pissed because he’s a good businessman (and I’m not sure his private sector experience will translate all that well into DC, but that’s another post) and he legally made a lot of money.

    4. Oh, he legally paid his taxes due and paid more than about 45% of the American people combined. I like Newt’s idea of a 15% flat tax, EVERYBODY pays, absolutely no deductions or credits.

    5. “I like to fire people” is the best think he’s said in the last year. Hopefully he’ll fire a whole bunch of government employees, like everybody at the Dept of Ed & Energy and most of the EPA. That would be a good first day.

    6. “$375 from speeches”. So, people are willing to pay to hear him talk, they must think he’s got something to say. Personally I’m more upset by the millions that Obama supporters make “singing songs” about how they treat their bitches.

    7. Second Amendment problems. Even he wanted to ban guns it’d never get through Congress.

    8. Caymans. Kiss my [X]. Bain released a statement about that, those accounts were set up to attract foreign business to Caymans to give Bain capital. It didn’t impact Romney’s tax bill one cent, he paid exactly the same amount of taxes on money made in the Caymans as he would have if he’d made it in Wichita. Bain paid any legally required taxes as well.

    9. “Doggie on the roof”. Make that a second kiss. I like dogs better than about anybody, but if Romney will downsize government, or at least stop the growth, I don’t care if his hobby is shooting dogs and he has dog steak for breakfast.

    10. He’ll release ‘em. Or not. Give me a list of the stuff Obama hasn’t released.

    You’re making a big deal over nothing, and frankly lots of people – including Newt and Perry, both of whom I prefer to Romney for different reasons – are starting to sound like the Occupy Redstate crowd. I’m getting really sick of the whining. “It’s not faaaaaaair”.

    Get over it. It’s time to focus on the guy who killed 20,000 jobs yesterday when he killed the Keystone pipeline. Time to focus on the guy who has killed 80,000+ jobs in the gulf with his bans on offshore exploration. Time to focus on the guy who’s regulating the country into becoming Bangladesh. If this is all there is, there’s nothing there.

  • goodgovernance

    Please. Nice try at decreasing expectations for Mitt, but you are being factually dishonest. Mitt and his team had nothing but high hopes they could end this thing in South Carolina. All candidates know how important South Carolina has been historically to securing the nomination.

  • annas

    I am disgusted with this anti-Romney bash every time I come to Redstate these days. This party is cannabalizing itself! Instead of focusing on the real target here–everyone is backing themselves into solid corners. All this talk about who is most conservative?! Is Obama more conservative than Mitt Romney? Is this election so pointless that you will stay home if your “guy” does not win? While he was not my man originally, I will gladly vote for Romney. If the worst thing he has done is earn money and pay only 15% on top of 35% taxes, I think I can live with that.

  • thosjefferson

    Like Newt, you’re an expert in revisionist history, goodgovernance.

    As another example, check out this comment on the clown featured in Newt’s stupid “King of Bain” ad:

    “The Democratic National Committee has retained Johnson to go on tour in order to more fulsomely describe the horrors perpetrated by Bain Capital on workers at that plant. As salt-of-the-earth Johnson explains, he lost his job at Ampad because Romney “didn’t care about the worker.”

    “It is beyond journalistic malpractice for media outlets showcasing the bitter and lying Johnson to neglect to mention that he was the union president who led the strike that forced Ampad to close the plant.

    “And yet The New York Times, MSNBC and others [including Newt and Perry] who have publicized Johnson’s sob story regularly refuse to convey that crucial fact. This would be as if a judge excluded the fact that the defense’s principal witness is the defendant’s mother.”

    http://www.humanevents.com/article.php?id=48877

  • sethellis

    Sorry, but something just doesn’t add up here. Marianne Gingrich is giving a damning interview that will air after the debates, and the big news of the day is some web ad. Meanwhile we hear hardly a peep from anybody other than drudge about the interview, and ABC’s internal battle to keep it quiet.

    Do I have that right?

  • thosjefferson

    RedState’s persistent efforts to prop up Gingrich appears nothing more than an effort to maintain page views (and ad revenues).

    It’s the same reason Fox News (especially Hannity) and Rush keep promoting Gingrich.

    Gingrich is the golden goose for broadcasters and blog hosts. The fact that he attacks capitalism only helps ratings. An open marriage? Bring it on! Taking $1.6 million from FreddieMac? Viewers love it! Fighting the President (bloody nose and knocking him out)? It’s the Roman Gladiators all over again. Bread and circus for the masses.

    It’s fascinating to watch evangelicals make Newt Gingrich their champion just to keep the money rolling in.

  • http://conservativemountaineer.blogspot.com/ conservativemountaineer

    Maybe, but Obama will beat him to death over those points in ads and the American Idol watching-types will eat it up.. “Yeah! Romney is just another rich guy! He won’t care about us poor folk!”

    Romney is a disaster waiting to happen.

  • ceili_dancer

    First we were Perry State, then Romney and Santorum State, now Gingrich State, I know we’ll never be Paul State, but that wouldn’t count since he’s not a Republican.

  • jakeofalltrades

    Romney 2012

  • Spartan4Life

    I just can’t figure out one reason to look at the guy and say, “Wow! That is who I want leading me!”

    I would like for someone that is passionate for Romney to tell me what it is they are seeing that I am not.

    It is not my fault I have zero enthusiasm for the guy.

  • Stan

    “At least he?s coming down (today) on the right side of the flips. Will it last? Who knows…”

    And that, for me, is enough to adopt an “Anybody but Willard or the screwball” policy, at least for the primaries. If the general comes down to Willard or “Dear Leader”, I’ll vote for Willard, and hope that the GOP caucus in the House & Senate can keep him from drifting left….

    Pity that the rationale for the GOP “front-runner” essentially boils down to “He sucks less than Obama”, doesn’t it?

  • jakeofalltrades

    If anything, it will remind the hardcore left why they can’t stand Obama.

  • annas

    I tell you what Spartan, I find Romney’s LACK of excitement to be just fine! All this skankiness is disgusting. If the worst we find about Mitt is that he earned a lot of money and tried to hang on to some of it, I’ll be okay with that.

  • littlehouse18

    Newt will do whatever seems cool to him at the moment.

  • littlehouse18

    or has something personal against Romney. I just don’t get it. Very frustrating, I never thought I’d feel this way.

    I haven’t been a Romney supporter, but now I may be left with him, or possibly Santorum ( another EE target). They’ve got a lot of problems, but Gingrich is a disaster.

  • Finrod

    I guess you have no answers at all for the video content and have to attack the messenger, just like your candidate Romney.

  • littlehouse18

    and evangelicals who support him.

  • Finrod

    Pick a position, pretty much any position on the political spectrum, Romney very likely has been on both sides of it at different times.

    Yeah, that inspires confidence.

  • lineholder

    I know that you’re disappointed about the way that this situation has unfolded so far. Maybe it would be better to just take a step back for a day or so.

  • http://teapartisan.wordpress.com Loren Heal

    Never mind that Mitt Romney has no credibility on any issue.

    Never mind that Mitt Romney’s only asset is that Republicans don’t like him all that much, so Democrats won’t hate him all that much.

    Never mind Romneycare.

    Never mind the mood of the base, which is to have someone who will not manage the mess, but get rid of it.

    Never mind all the flip-flops, which the Democrats will use against him.

    Just attack the messenger. That will make the problems with the weakest candidate in the field go away.

  • http://jeffemanuel.net Jeff Emanuel

    n/t

  • Melody Warbington (rwm52)

    Whether we end up needing these as talking points remains to be seen, but it’s good to have them bookmarked.

  • Melody Warbington (rwm52)

    are those who support Gingrich hypocites? Is Romney or any of the other candidates sinless? Just because Gingrich’s dirty laundry is public doesn’t mean there aren’t some skeletons in other closets.

    Yes, by all accounts, Romney has been faithful to his wife, but does that absolve him of any other sins he’s committed along the way?

    I’m as socially conservative as you can get, but I also realize that there is no perfect candidate. And I’ve known more than a few sinners who were effective leaders and businessmen. On the flip side, I’ve know some very good and decent men who didn’t know squat about business or governing.

    I certainly don’t like or approve of Newt’s personal baggage, but I dislike Romney’s governing record even less. Since I’m voting for POTUS and not looking for a personal relationship with either, I’ll base my vote on record.

  • Melody Warbington (rwm52)

    Like this one, here.

    And again, I ask if you feel that strongly, why are you here? Shouldn?t your principles demand you not hang around on a site whose editor you think has sold you out?

  • tngal

    But I believe he’ll make a formidable leader. (Since I can’t have Cain who would have wiped the fiscal floor with the rest of these yahoos)

    We’ve got a fiscal mess on our hands and I think Newt can clear some of it away.

    I’d prefer he’d push for no amnesty but, that’s just me.

    I feel like I went to a steak house buffet, and all I got was a limp lettuce salad. Oh how I wanted red meat.

  • gladtidings

    He’s the pastor who just accused Romney of being part of a “cult” and of homophilia all in the same breath.

    The only good thing I can say about Reverend Mills is that he realizes that Newt Gingrich is not a Christian who walks the walk.

  • gladtidings

    Erick will propogate any anti-Romney video no matter how poorly done it is.

    Erick simply can’t admit that there will be no job waiting for him in the White House next year and he’s so bitter about it that he’s willing to help Obama get re-elected.

  • Bill S

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  • gladtidings

    I’d call that a messenger worth attacking.

  • gladtidings

    Erick doesn’t own the copyright to conservative principles. There are many conservatives out there who don’t share his hatred of Romney and wish that he’d stay focused on getting the liberals out of Washington.

    Liberals like Obama.

    Replacing them with conservatives like Romney or Santorum should be job #1. We’ll get back to fighting amongst ourselves after this election is over.

  • texasroots

    I will not support Newt, and I hope Romney wins and sticks it to Erick big time. I cannot wait for it!

  • gladtidings

    What else are you looking for?

    Gingrich has no evidence that he can fix an economy. He’s never won a statewide election and does not speak for values voters.

  • gladtidings

    The children in the room are attacking Romney because of his religion (Huey Mills, Robert Jeffress, etc.) and for his role as a successful venture capitalist (Newt Gingrich has surrogates trying to make this argument).

    It is getting very, very tiresome to see people attacking Romney because he’s not “conservative” enough when the real reason is that they just don’t want a Mormon representing them.

    Many polls show that such people exist in South Carolina and in other states. If these people would all choose to grow up, we could talk about issues and principles and not get bogged down in a childish debate about religion.

  • http://teapartisan.wordpress.com Loren Heal

    Respond to the points in the ad, or be considered irrelevant. Those are your options.

  • gladtidings

    Why don’t you post on what % of the vote Gingrich would get against Obama? My guess is that Gingrich would take about 40% of the general election vote and make it easy for Obama to win in states like Florida, Ohio, Virginia, Indiana, Missouri, and North Carolina, states that Romney can (and will) beat Obama in.

  • Common_Cents

    I understand why offshore accounts are set up for foreign capital, but voters don’t. I doubt Romney has “hidden” money for any tax evasion.

    But in these days and times of economic peril there is no way he will nuance and explain this to overcome the optics.

    It’s unfortunate that obama doesn’t get linked to wall street (goldman sachs, jp morgan etc..)and big crony business (GE etc…)

    Romney needs to deal with this now or it will drag him down. The OWS obama community organizers won’t let him off the hook. I’m sure obama doesn’t want this to be an issue until the general. This was to be their october surprise.

  • lineholder

    has been attempted and failed dramatically at this site many times over in the past, gladtidings. You’ll have to come up with something other than that.

  • gladtidings

    And Erick wonders why Romney won’t take time out of his schedule to give him an interview.

    Erick can’t even wake up and see that this primary election is virtually a done deal. He’s too absorbed in his hatred of Romney to accept that reality.

  • gladtidings

    You think that South Carolinians are going to take time out of their schedule to hear more of the same tired old allegations about Romney being too successful to represent them?

    Please.

    Someone needs to tell EE that this is getting old.

  • nepanyrush

    The campaign against Romney seems to be a scorched-earth campaign. I prefer Santorum, but if it comes down to Romney or Gingrich, there is zero question in mind to support Romney. Gingrich is a disaster, or as another poster put it, a “five-alarm disaster.”

    I have never been as scared as I am now for the 2012 election as the thought that the GOP could actually have Gingrich as the nominee. It seemed unfathonable to me that people would so easily forget his huge amount of baggage. For sure, they will be reminded in the general election. Obama could have a landslide after all the voters become familiar with Gingrich.

  • gladtidings

    Mitt spent very little money in SC before recent polls showed him leading all of his rivals there.

    Mitt’s strategy was to win big in western states like California and in northern states like Michigan and hope that the southerners in the race like Perry and Gingrich split the southern states up.

    Now, it looks like Romney could win in a state where 60% of the GOP voters in the 2008 primary were evangelical Christians. If that isn’t proof of Romney’s cross-denominational appeal, I don’t know what is.

  • lineholder

    As a Romney supporter, you see this as being conducive to generating support for Romney…to come to a Conservative site and attack someone who those associated with the site might see as being dependable, reliable, trustworthy?

  • lineholder

    What is it with you guys?

  • http://travismonitor.blogspot.com Freedoms Truth

    … for the same kind of moderate spineless weathervane ‘leadership’ that is everything that has been wrong with the GOP the past decade.

    Like that bogus budget non-deal that now has led to Obama increasing the debt by $2 trillion with NOTHING AT ALL to show of it in terms of deficit reduction. Nothing!

    Like … Romneycare. Obamacare at the state level, how is that a great idea? Its not. It was a bad, govt-increasing program. Romney’s support of it is wrong.

    And yes, Bain and ‘mormon’ are irrelevent phony attacks.

    It’s about conservative core principles and lack thereof.

  • lineholder

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  • http://travismonitor.blogspot.com Freedoms Truth

    annas, you sound like you fell asleep in 2002 and just woke up.
    Non-conservative Republicans overspent and we lost in 2006.
    Non-conservative Republicans pushed amnesty and conservatives fled in 2008.

    Finally, the Tea Party got engaged because there was nobody else to stand up. Why? Because spineless Republicans wouldnt.

    Criticizing non-conservative Republicans is about improving the GOP, not hurting it.

    If/when we have a nominee, we’ll get together to defeat Obama… BUT … until then, we NEED TO GET CONSERVATIVES ELECTED.

    Mitt Romney is a nice guy, but he aint a conservative.

  • http://travismonitor.blogspot.com Freedoms Truth

    I’d take a Reagan over a Ford.

  • Melody Warbington (rwm52)

    and although I don’t speak for Erick, I doubt he does either as evidenced by his reputation. Romney may be a very nice man, but he does not have a conservative record of governing. Accordingly, I think Erick is very focused on not only getting the liberals out of Washington, but also not electing any more of them to fill those vacated spots, including Obama’s.

    Attacking one’s views, record, ideas, advice, etc. is one thing. bzip’s comments have crossed that line. In my opinion, of course. I haven’t always agreed with Erick, and I’ve disagreed with some of the front pagers more than once, but disagreement does not a sell out make. I just don’t understand why bzip wants to hang around at a site that he thinks has an editor who is a sell out, obsessed with Romney, makes him sick, etc. His words, not mine.

  • acat

    Pick from those who remain.

    Baka.

    Mew

  • jakeofalltrades

    The one thing this primary is doing is calibrating my sense of how conservative the GOP electorate really is, and I am very, very disappointed.

  • http://travismonitor.blogspot.com Freedoms Truth

    Trifecta! wrong on immigration (I only stated the obvious facts) , wrong on remaining conservatives (Gingrich and Santorum pass the test, check their ACU scores and agenda), wrong on my influence (duh! ). I marvel at how you can be wrong so concisely!

  • http://travismonitor.blogspot.com Freedoms Truth

    Wow, an elitist Massachusetts flip-flopper who owns more homes than most people have bedroom … yeah, that’ll work so well.

    Despite Gingrich’s personal failings, akin to Clintons, we can at least say that Clinton made it to the White House and Kerry didnt.

    So if its our Clinton vs our Kerry …. pick the Clinton.

  • acat

    a small minority in the GOP.

    Most voters aren’t ideologically driven. If they support a given candidate, it’s more likely because “he seems cool” or “she seems smart” than “their ideology lines up well with mine”….

    Pardon me, I need to go find a site Spagnolo sent me on how to build an Amish-style supply of shelf-stable foods.

    Mew

  • acat

    as clearly, you haven’t the influence.

    You are wrong, as I pointed out before and am happy to do again, on immigration.

    You are also wrong on Santorum – his score consisted of supporting the Bush 2.0 compassionate conservative agenda .. and while I liked Bush when he was conservative, Santorum seems much more interested in the government finding new and invasive ways to help me.

    Mew

  • gladtidings

    And I am by no means defending Clinton. I wanted him to be removed from office and jailed for perjury.

    But Gingrich’s dirty laundry is just too much to bear. Well, at least Gingrich didn’t rape anyone. Maybe he is slightly better than Clinton.

    I still won’t ever vote for Gingrich. Ever.

  • gladtidings

    This guy (barleycorn) must have some personal grudge against Romney. He’s just quoting some liberal talking points about Romney such as the irrelevant dog story.

    I want to have a president who is ready to govern on day one. Neither Gingrich nor Santorum is ready for that responsibility.

    Romney is.

    It’s time to put away childish things and be adults.

  • gladtidings

    Most of it is non-sensical and over-the-top.

    I saw some negative posts against McCain in 2008. Heck, I even made a few. But nothing like what we’re seeing this year against Romney.

    This is truly a scorched-earth attack on the presumptive nominee. Obama could not have hired better help than what he’s getting from Erick, Rush Limbaugh, a few bigoted pastors, and the rest of the evangelical establishment this year.

    The attacks on Romney have been incessant and wholly without merit. There has been no balance. No opportunity for rebuttal. Just Erick’s bile all day long, supported by a few merry sycophants.

    It really does get tiresome.

  • gladtidings

    This has gone beyond attacking a liberal candidate in a Republican primary (which Romney is clearly not) and it has turned into a personal vendetta against Romney.

    EE needs to wait a few more days and see if Romney wins in South Carolina. If Romney does win, can we all agree that savaging him is not a great long-term strategy?

  • gladtidings

    And the title of the diary is “This is Going to Hurt”.

    The Newt Titanic is taking on major water and Erick is commenting on a fiddler being out of tune.

    This is really funny. I hope I’m not the only one who appreciates the irony.

  • gladtidings

    His executive order on Gardasil had nothing to do with conservatism.

    He apologized for it later. But it showed that he did not have the moxy to stand up to companies like Merck when they came to him with their hands out and said, “Just step on individual rights and we’ll pay you money.”

    That is not conservative.

  • gladtidings

    You think they’re doing this for Romney’s benefit?

    There are many conservatives in the Republican Party who have personal biases against the Church of Jesus Christ (e.g. the Mormon church). Sometimes, they slip up and reveal these biases. Other times, they cover them up by saying, “Oh, I have no problem with Mitt’s religion, just his flip-flopping.”

    I got news for them. Newt’s flip-flops are legion. The issue now is which candidate can beat Obama. Romney can. Gingrich can’t. Want to put money on it? I’d love to take your money if you’re feeling strong.

  • Justin Spagnolo (standardcandle)

    Fools that run their mouth about so much anecdotal evidence due to their incessant fear of the unknown.

    Romney sucks as a conservative. There’s no way around that.

    You may think he’s the best candidate… but guess what, Conservatives do not… and it HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH his religion…

    What’s that you say? Where’s my anecdotal evidence? I’m an active member of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints. And even I could see that Romney is not a conservative…

    So does that make me a bigot too? Maybe you’ll claim that I have Stockholm syndrome, or go all Godwin on me and suggest some Nazi theory…

    Just shut your mouth. How’s that for some glad tidings of peace?

  • gladtidings

    I’d like to invite you to consider the possibility that Romney may actually be a Christian in his heart, even if he follows a church that has struggled to follow biblical principles in the past.

    I don’t want to start a fight, though. I just want you to consider that. Romney says that he prays everyday. The Mormons I know pray to God the Father in the name of Jesus Christ. That is surely more commitment to Christ than you’ll ever hear from Obama who thinks that abortion and SSM are OK and yet he still calls himself a Christian (but only during election years).

  • gladtidings

    I trust Gingrich less now than I did when he left office in disgrace in 1998. And I didn’t trust him then, either.

  • gladtidings

    I know that you supported Rick Perry. I know that you are upset that Governor Perry has left the race.

    But I want you to stop and think about the things that you are posting. Romney is not a liberal. If he were a liberal, liberals would be excited about his candidacy.

    Romney is a conservative. Now, if you want to get all hung up about statements that were made several years ago, go ahead and do so. But you could say the same thing about Newt Gingrich.

    Why do you trust Gingrich more than Romney? Is it because you’re trying to curry favor with Erick, the head manager of this site?

    Or do you actually swallow Erick’s professed belief that any candidate, including the flipper Gingrich, would be better than Romney?

    If you can’t see into Romney’s heart, then you have no idea whether or not he is a principled conservative. If you are in the political arena, you make compromises in order to pass legislation. All politicians have done this.

    It is very important that the GOP come together around its nominee. And it is also very important that the nominee not have told his second wife that she needed to share him with his mistress.

  • Melody Warbington (rwm52)

    please share the info. Right now, I’m depending on my mom’s freezer full of home-grown vegetables and her canned goods (not the store-bought kind).

  • lineholder

    Do you see the approach you are taking as being conducive to encouraging and inspiring support for Romney?

  • texasroots

    EE will be doing the same thing to Newt he did to Perry. Just wait. Why continue with the charade of primaries, Mitt is the nominee and EE will be supporting him.

  • texashistorian

    just not a Fabian socialist like the progressive Dems that control that party and of whom Obama is a part. Romney has no conservative record to speak of, just talking points that sound conservative. The way to see into his heart is to look at this actions. Anyone can say they are conservative, conservatives act like them. I am not bashing Romney here, he is what he is, but he simply does not have a record of acting like a conservative. A Republican, sure, but a liberal northeastern Republican.

    As to the point that if Romney were liberal, liberals would get excited about him, why would you think that? They’ve got the grandaddy of all leftists in the White House now to vote for. Why settle for less? It’s like Teddy Roosevelt in 1912. He was a Progressive, no doubt, but didn’t get the Progressive vote. Why? Because Progressives had the real deal in Woodrow Wilson who didn’t really claim to be anything else.

    I agree we need to rally around the nominee when we get him, but that should include Newt if it is him, not just Romney. So if Newt actually said what Marianne says- and where is the proof that it happened that way?- and becomes the nominee, will you rally around him?

  • lineholder

    rhetoric is exactly the same.

  • Hooah_Mac

    Do you still need to keep rehashing inaccurate talking points? How many people would have been required to get Gardasil if the executive order has stood and been enforced? Hint: It rhymes with zero.

  • gladtidings

    Many people take Romney at his word. He says that 2004 changed everything for him. If so, he would not be the first pro-choicer to wake up and realize that abortion kills innocent human beings and creates a market for their parts (thanks to human cloning).

    If Robert Bork, Mark Levin, Ann Coulter, Tim Pawlenty, Dana Rohrabacher, Chris Christie, and Nikki Haley tell me that Romney is a conservative, I believe them. They know him better than I do.

  • pttx333

    a bazillion comments he’s made today only with no further days on his record. Yep, new and real folks don’t come here, make tons of comments in one day that are lengthy and abrasive … the ones who are here with a pure heart typically go slowly, try to get the feel of the place and the people, then shyly and boldly finally comment in a small way. Agree? Yep, it is josh, the banned one …

  • pttx333

    replace with “timidly” – sorry.

  • gladtidings

    In response to your first question: no, I’m not attacking Erick personally. As a fellow conservative, I’m sure that he’s spent enough time in the trenches to have experienced the same attacks from liberals that I have experienced.

    I’m not accusing Erick of being a bigot or a fundamentalist or a racist or anything like that.

    But he does need to wake up. If he takes that as an insult, then he is far to thin-skinned to manage a political blog. He should take it as advice. Unsolicited. But still advice.

    As to your second question, I honestly don’t know how to communicate with many of the regular posters on this site, such as yourself. I know that there was a lot of excitement here for Governor Perry and there was a lot of disappointment when the media zeroed in on him like a heat-seaking missile and took him down. I realize now that there are many issues which are currently being used against Romney (mostly unfair) and which will be used against him again after the primaries are over.

    I do feel that anyone who supports Romney must be bold. This is not a time to say, “Guys, come on, he’s really a nice guy.” This is a time to exercise leadership and let the conservatives know that they have a choice to make. They can either vote for Romney in November or they can sit out the election and see what BHO does to the economy over the next 4 years. If you have any assets worth protecting or if you like your job, I suggest that you take the former option rather than the latter one.

  • lineholder

    I used to be, then learned the hard way that I had left myself wide open to being misled and deceived.

    For a minute there, I almost expected you to come back with the response that he is a “progressive” Conservative, because that’s what joshdunn, a former Romney operative, used all the time to persuade Conservative to overlook Romney’s many changes in position.

    No, Romney isn’t a Conservative. You can try to present him that way all you want to, but the majority of Conservatives aren’t likely to buy into it. OTOH, if you said that Romney is a moderate Republican (which he is) who fully recognizes the challenges our nation is facing and sees applying fiscally Conservative policies as being an effective means to reduce our national debt…people might be a bit more open-minded about wanting to learn more about how he intends to succeed in doing so, etc.

    It doesn’t mean you’d automatically win them over, but it would be better than driving them away with what they recognize to be a false claim.

  • gladtidings

    Ironically, Perry seemed to fall out of the top tier even as EE and the other moderators threw their entire support to Perry. But I blame the media for that. It isn’t logical to assume that EE’s support cost Perry the nomination.

    You are right about Mitt being the presumptive nominee. I hate to thank ABC or the Washington Post for anything. But I think that they are doing a great service to the conservative movement by their wrong-headed attempt to smear Gingrich right before the SC primary.

  • gladtidings

    Do you realize that Reverend Mills is trying to help Santorum by accusing you and 14 million other Latter-day Saints of being cultists?

    Do you realize that Reverend Mills probably tells his congregants that Mormons worship Satan in their temples?

    Does any of that bother you? If it does, just remember that both Santorum and Perry have allowed people like this to mock your religion because they thought that it would help them get the nomination.

    Latter-day Saints only make up a small percentage of the GOP. They are an easy target for evangelical pastors who like to see their names in the paper and like to think that they are making a difference by keeping Mormons out of public office.

  • lineholder

    What are you so afraid of, gladtidings? Romney is a grown man. I’m sure he hasn’t had everything handed to him on a silver platter his entire life…oh, wait a minute…

    Well, even if he has, if he genuinely wants Conservative support, then let him be man enough to fight his own battles in such a way that it earns and gains him that support. If he succeeds in that much, then it will completely and totally alter the tide of this election!

    But to just hand it to him on a silver platter, at this point…no, I don’t think so.

  • For Newt Or Mitt

    N/T

  • texasroots

    is the nominee that Faux News, etc., won’t turn on him. Somehow my hunch tells me that with laser driven precision all the media will go after Romney, or whoever. This would leave the current president all by his lonesome, no opposition. That’s what I hope does not happen.

  • asleep06

    I’ve been around here for long enough to spot when folks have lost their senses and start spitting stupid, personal accusations with no substance.

    Erick thinks Romney is a terrible “conservative.” Erick is right. Deal with it.

    If you disagree, make arguments with substance: what do you disagree with in the video? How is it poorly done?

    Otherwise, your comment should stand as reason you and your mad ravings should be ignored.

  • carolynr

    abandon the Republican Party and we become Independent….and no more money to these so-called Conservative Groups.

  • jakeofalltrades

    Christian theologians for over a century have defined Mormonism as a “Cult of Christianity” because Mormonism rejects the creeds that are essential to the definition of the Christian faith, whether you are Catholic or Protestant or Greek Orthodox. Mormon prophets have condemned Christianity as a false religion and the Bible as a mistranslated work.

    This theological crap is completely irrelevant to the election except for those who wish to make it an issue,.

  • carolynr

    Where does Ron Paul come into play?

    What is in the press now about Gingrich is terrible. I don’t know whether it is true…but then…sheeples believe everything. Apparently Gingrich’s personal life was not as pure as Conservatives want it to be.

    Santorum…please don’t vote for him…he is not mature enough, not seasoned enough to be POTUS. Besides…we’ll be broke.

    It’s like Romney said…get on the train now…or get on it later (to the Evangelicals)…..and I really do believe that Romney will lose to Obama because of the Latino Vote…yup..them there guys.

    Paul…who knows…he might be the new anti-Romney…or like I said…he was running a stealth third party run within the Republican Campaign.

    FYI…Donald Trump is disgusted with the GOP….lovely.

  • Justin Spagnolo (standardcandle)

    You want to know how I detect some troll in you?

    Because

    a) I’ve written a diary today prior to the announcement of what I think, and it doesn’t square at all with what you’re saying about me.

    b) You seem to think that an equivalence to Gingrich will exonerate Romney’s non-conservative record.

    c) You’re putting words in my mouth, where did I say Romney is a “liberal”?

    d) I don’t need to see Romney’s heart… His record, and his rhetoric are proof enough that he EMBRACES REALLY BAD COMPROMISE {emphasis on the BAD} that DOES NOTHING TO FURTHER THE CAUSE OF LIBERTY.

    e) Your assertion about second wives and sharing of a mistress goes along way with a polygamous joke in a bar… just the same… the point being that there’s not much difference between Newt and Mitt… only at least Newt has a record that points to the fact that he thinks smaller government is a good idea.

  • jakeofalltrades

  • deVere

    Romney, Gingrich, Santorum,, and Paul meet on a ship to discuss the campaign, and the ship suddenly begins to sink. Who gets saved?

    The Republican Party.

  • Justin Spagnolo (standardcandle)

    This is what I know by the Book of Mormon.

    a) Many will not accept the fulness of the Gospel.
    b) Fools mock, but they shall mourn.
    c) Faith in Jesus Christ is a lot more important that what some backwards definition of a “cult” means.

    I don’t care what some careless preacher has to say about a competing religious sect. I’m not going to label people as bigots due to the fact that they identify themselves with the same religious tenets…

    If that were the case I would have to consider myself an idiot, because I’ve met a lot of idiotic Mormons in my life…

    Joseph Smith once said…

    “the Standard of Truth has been erected; no unhallowed hand can stop the work from progressing; persecutions may rage, mobs may combine, armies may assemble, calumny may defame, but the truth of God will go forth boldly, nobly, and independent, till it has penetrated every continent, visited every clime, swept every country, and sounded in every ear, till the purposes of God shall be accomplished, and the Great Jehovah shall say the work is done.”

    So no… I don’t care what Rev. Mills or Rev. Jeffress said. They have their opinions. I have mine.

    Get over yourself.

  • acat

    shared a site talking about Mormon food storage. It’s not uncommon among Mormons to keep a year of shelf-stable food on hand, y’see.

    I apologize to Mr. Spagnolo for the typo.

    If I find the post where the conversation started, I’ll link it.

    Mew

  • pttx333

    he and his supporters can pull off a rigged election, which they very well may. No ethics, no morals (much less conservative) values there. Of all the lunatics running who have ever run for prez, he is the poster boy!

  • lineholder

    when I first started coming to grips with that reality. I really did.

    Overall, Republicans comprise about 1/3 of the political spectrum, and Conservatives are a subset of that 1/3. I live in NC, which tends to run the middle during recent decades. We’ve had an uptick in Conservatives (up to 24% now) but very few moderate Repubs remain. The rest of the population in my state are all Independents or Dems. That’s when it started hitting home for me how difficult it could end up being to present a Conservative vision to the general public.

    Fiscal Conservatism would be more welcomed at this point than social Conservatism would be, at least within my state. “Kitchen table economics” are still very much so in use here.

  • texasref

    right on target

  • texasref

    take your candibotting keyboard and throw it in the trash where it belongs. YOU make me sick.

    Kudos as usual to Erick!

  • texasref

    its not time to focus on Obama yet. We have a primary to duke out. When our nominee is decided then we can focus on Obama.

    Otherwise, I appreciate your insight as usual.

  • Common_Cents

    Quit digging bzip.

  • http://908StraightSt.wordpress.com/ mbecker908

    of the primary is over, it’s not. My only point was that Romney’s stuff – and Newt’s stuff – is small potatoes if they will tell the media to stuff it. A friend noted in an email exchange that when asked about his tax rate, Mitt could say something on the order of “I’ve always paid all the taxes I’ve owed on time. And, I’ll appoint a Treasury Secretary who’s done the same.” And then change the subject to Keystone.

  • jakeofalltrades

    Gingrich is doing every bit as well in head to head polling against Obama as Romney is.

  • http://travismonitor.blogspot.com Freedoms Truth

    Most of those 40% would consider Newt Gingrich and Rick Santorum to be conservatives.

    holier-than-thou purist types who think “only Ron Paul” is the man, or “only Rick Perry” are just causing confusion. These folks are more like the 5% extreme who consider any deviation reason to read somebody out of the label, party, etc.

    The attacks on Rick Santorum, ignoring his actual conservative accomplishments and agenda on balancing the budget, reforming entitlements, cutting spending and taxes, etc. were eye-opening. He was the most conservative northeast Senator in the Senate. Yes, if you are going to label him as ‘not conservative’ then you’ve also called most of that 40% non-conservative, since he is in that mainstream.

    Likewise, Newt Gingrich, with welfare reform, balancing the budget, cutting taxes and keeping spending down to its lowest level / GDP in decades, accomplished more conservative agenda items (despite Clinton as PResident!) than any politician save for Reagan.
    If he’s not conservative in your book, it’s a pretty small book you have.

    We should have a unified front that takes on and defeats Obama and implements conservative reforms, BUT, if activists are fragging solid conservatives, Obama wins.

    Conservatives are NOT a small minority … PURISTS are.
    Recalibrate.

  • AceInTX

    What is his plan? What will he do?

    I’ve heard him say he’d work to preserved the middle class tax cuts and the payroll tax cuts from the Bush plan…but that’s all I’ve heard from the Reomney campaign besides attacks on every other Republican Running?

    What is the positive case for nominating and then electing Romney as a Republican POTUS?

  • AceInTX

    What will he do as President? What does he plan to do? What is the promise to those of us he expects to vote for him?

    I keep hearing he’s “more electable.

    Prove it!

    I keep hearing he’ll fix the economy.

    How? What is his plan? How will he get our business and industry in this country out of the ditch and get them hiring again?

    what will he do?

    I haven’t heard any of that…all I here is empty platitudes from him while he sends his underlings out to destroy any who pose a threat to him

  • texasref

    :-)

  • http://travismonitor.blogspot.com Freedoms Truth

    “Mitt could say something on the order of ?I?ve always paid all the taxes I?ve owed on time. And, I?ll appoint a Treasury Secretary who?s done the same.? And then change the subject to Keystone.”

    I just made a similar observation, and here’s my concern. If Mitt is so ‘scripted’ and ‘robotic’ as some think (I dont really agree on that, but …), why can’t he get a better defense of
    (1) his earnings (2) his Bain capital days (3) his taxes?

    Mitt is in the process of blowing the nomination, and smart folks will wonder if he can beat Obama while not having a good story here.

  • AceInTX

    It points to the uninspiring nature of the candidates in the race.

    That…and an overwhelming tendency of a lot of the voters who will buy the inevitability meme pushed on them by the press & the establishment….

    “I like Conservative Soandso but he doesn’t have a chance, I’ll vote for establishment candidate Suchandsuch because he’s more electable”….If I’ve heard it once I’ve heard it a thousand times.

    We need to get people to be more contrarian and refuse buy into the establishment meme all the time

  • lineholder

    Little by little, people realize that this is the kind of effort that is being made, and they are bucking it a bit. I don’t know that there will be enough people bucking it to gain any strength overall, but it is happening.

  • AceInTX

    ….

  • barleycorn

    My list of Romney problems are based on 40 years of observing how the mass media covers politics.

    Romney is a gaffe a minute and the media will crucify him. They will also go after Newt but the difference is that Newt will fire back while Romney will just stammer and look like a frat boy caught trying to peep into the girls shower..

    I wasn’t making a “big deal” over anything. I was pointing out Romney’s weak spots. Some of them are weak spots with conservatives, some are areas where the media will nail him, and some are just bad luck.

    And by the way kiss my X Y and Z..

  • barleycorn

    I don’t see a “diary” link next to your name so you must never rouse yourself enough to express original or independent thoughts.

    I have enough of a record at RedState that butt pimples like you don’t have to guess where I’m coming from.

  • barleycorn

    If you won’t vote for Gingrich if he is the nominee then go back where you came from if they are dumb enough to answer the door.

  • lineholder

    gladtidings was the esteemed joshdunn who got banned and came back under another name, got caught, and got banned again. See the tagline one of the mods put into place after the fact?

  • aesthete

    Contrary to what many on RS seem to believe these days, the whining of aggrieved candidate supporters is not a sweet-smelling incense unto the Lord.

  • http://www.examiner.com/x-1597-Charlotte-Law--Politics-Examiner Mike gamecock DeVine

    Yes, I’m a conservative first, but the GOP matters too. A cause needs a vessel and the Dems are so bad that any GOP is light years better.

    But I digress. Becker, this comment of yours is a tour de force of wisdom and conservatism. more later

  • http://www.examiner.com/x-1597-Charlotte-Law--Politics-Examiner Mike gamecock DeVine

    more later
    trying to care about the NFL playoffs…

  • jakeofalltrades

  • http://www.examiner.com/x-1597-Charlotte-Law--Politics-Examiner Mike gamecock DeVine

    we try

  • http://www.examiner.com/x-1597-Charlotte-Law--Politics-Examiner Mike gamecock DeVine

    Pitchers and catchers report Feb. 19th…

  • http://www.nighttwister.com NightTwister

    Go 49ers!

    Go SF Giants (after those pitchers and catchers report).

    :-)

  • barleycorn

    Sorry I wasted that “butt pimple” line on him now.