The National Review’s Candidate Won’t Stop Digging

http://beaglescout.wordpress.com;http://news.unifiedpatriots.com/ Beaglescout

It’s like a law of nature. The only time moderate Republicans win is when the Democrats self-destruct, as in 1968, or when the Republican runs as a conservative, as with Nixon both times and “Poppy” Bush in 1988. We have to save ourselves from the moderate Republican. Romney doesn’t even want to win. It’s not worth getting excited about, after all.

lightspeed

just made the champagne corks pop at the White House. He personifies the callous, greedy Wall Street patriarchs who look down their noses at the filthy peasants. He will be pilloried for this by the Dems. And we thought we had to worry about what would come out of Newt’s mouth.

joereagan

Gingrich is now contesting this with the RNC. FL already lost half of its delegates by moving the primary to an earlier date. As it turns out, they also broke the rule established by the RNC that no primary before April 1 can be winner-take-all.

runner12

with a some reservations on whether it would be as good of a thing as I thought it would be.

After Mitten’s horrid gaffe today, a brokered convention is looking like the best outcome we could hope for right now.

Seriously NRO? This is the guy who you thought was so “electable.” You trashed Perry for his gaffes, yet support Mittens who just delivered the queen mother of all gaffes.

Good grief!

runner12

I am not a big Newt fan, but if he can pick up some of those delegates we may be able to stop Mittens.

Scope

How many years and years have some Republicans worked as hard as possible to get the voters up, awake, and involved. I remember a time when so many Democrats ran in local, and even national races unopposed. No Republicans came forward to challenge them. In 2010, that seemed to have changed. From what I remember, there were R candidates willing to throw their hats in the ring, because we all saw just how radically left, Obama and the liberals were taking this country.

There is a reason why Romney, through all the many many beginning months of the primary season, couldn’t get above his always reliable base of about 25%. Ron Paul always had his reliable 5-7% base, that sticks with him no matter what he says, does, believes, and no oppo research ever seems to have any effect on his 5-7%. The massive amount of oppo research never touches his 25% base. I’m beginning to think that they can participate in beastiality on video, and their supporters would find a way to excuse them for it, or worse, find an alternative reality way to explain away their positions.

It appears that there is a tide that is resulting in voter apathy, mainly brought on by Romney gorilla warfare tactics against his opponents, that belong to the same party. There is Reagan’s 11th commandment which really did go out the window long ago, and then their is the most horrendous, malicious, and personally destructive campaigning that has ever existed to date in the Republican party. Most of the masses are still really decent and upright people. They are not willing to be drafted by the army of Romney hatefuls.

Pretty good long article on just how far the Romney creeps are willing to go.

Haven’t the lefties tried to give some of us a gift, with going after Romney, long before he becomes the nominee, and have given us the opportunity to do something else? I’m not sure what, but something else? This ain’t workin’.

traversecityconservative

My guess at how many times the Obama campaign will use that in TV ads this year…140,000 minimum. What an idiot.

circlegranch

The hits just keep on coming. For a guy with supposedly the most amazingly well organized campaign team ever known to Mankind and for a guy that’s had years to practice his rhetoric, seems Mitt needs to be alot less like himself when he does impromptu interviews. Taking everything out of context, you say? Of course, that’s a specialty of the Left.

Romney is where he is in part because he’s supposed to be such a draw for moderates and Independents. Flash: those voters don’t pay too close attention which is why they stay in the middle. They won’t hear those sound bytes within complete context, only excised as very bad one-liners in ads from Team “O”. Not fair? Indeed.

redcal

Some people have been complaining, but the RNC’s position is clear — they’re not going to “punish Florida twice.” See the Washington Post article:

“A new Republican National Committee rule says that no state holding its presidential contest before April is allowed to award its delegates to the national convention on a winner-take-all basis, unless it is one of the four early carve-out states (Iowa, New Hampshire, South Carolina and Nevada).

But here?s the catch: Florida is already in violation of RNC rules because it moved its primary into January. And the RNC, which has already docked Florida half of its delegates for moving its primary up, says it cannot punish a state twice.

Therefore, the states that are already in violation of RNC rules for setting their primaries too early (Florida, Arizona and Michigan) were allowed to go winner-take-all.”

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/the-fix/post/floridas-winner-take-all-delegate-situation-explained/2012/01/31/gIQAXWhRfQ_blog.html

lightspeed

You know the usual suspects will be talking about how “very poor” is code for “black.”

miconservative

“I’m not concerned about the very poor.”
“I like to fire people.”
“Corporations are people my friend.”

Maybe right on all of the above when taken in full context, but I am pretty certain that Axelrod won’t do that and will be fully supported by the Obama enablers in the media.

I have no problem with people getting rich, but rich guys who have always been rich and never had to personally struggle can be so out of touch. I once heard Dick DeVos who is the son of the billionaire Amway founder and got crushed for MI Gov in 2006 say…”We were at a store and our children wanted something that we didn’t want to purchase for them and we do not have the luxury to tell them we can’t afford it.” The luxury to tell your children you can’t afford it?

Some of these people have never lived in the world that the vast majority of Americans live in and don’t know how to communicate. We are doomed if Romney is the nominee.

lightspeed

be “punishing” Florida? It would be punishing Mitt. If they refuse to abide by this rule as well, they should be punished twice, losing even more delegates.

Scope

the fact that Fla. may be winner take all, but that it wasn’t yet carved in stone, despite what was reported. From what I’ve read, Fla. argued with the RNC, that they had already been punished enough by losing half their delegates by going early, and that to demand that they portion their delegates proportionally was heaping on the unfairness. Apparently from what I understand, Preibus must have gone along with that, and allowed them to depart from the rule affecting anyone that went before April 1st.

Preibus already argued that Fla., and the other early states, losing half their delegates, was something he would not be able to change, because it was in the “RNC rules.” Yet he managed to give Fla. a pass on the proportional delegate rules, because they believed they were already punished enough? Like Orwell, some rules are more equal than others. Like much else in the RNC, wasn’t Preibus already selected, rather than elected, even before those elections were held?

mikelindell2

When someone has to operate under the guise of someone he is not for so long, he eventually will start to unravel. Impostors always end up slipping up because there is too much pressure on them to always have to put up a facade of something they are not.

WillWong

Newt’s Home Run against Obama the Food Stamp President could apply equally well to Mitt Romney…..

“so that the poor can find a job, find a better job, and someday to own the job” sounds a lot more better than ” I don’t care about the poor!”

Whacker77

He’s a bad candidate who is going to say a lot of dumb things. He’s never going to generate much enthusiasm and I think that will ultimately be his demise. Still, we’re stuck with this guy.

I’m all for dinging Mitt if it leads to a new candidate entering the race. That’s not going to happen though so I’m not sure if we’re doing ourselves any favors by just making ourselves angrier about our candidate.

If we want to be mad, be mad at Jeb, Christie, Mitch, or any of the other Neros who chose not to run.

WillWong

From the above article….

If Mr. Romney does win here on Tuesday, it will have been through a blistering and unrelenting series of attacks. His campaign has pressed everything at its disposal into service to eviscerate Mr. Gingrich, painting him as an erratic, unreliable Washington insider in mailings and television advertisements, at two critical debates here (where his team made sure Mr. Romney had ample and vocal supporters in the audiences) and even by sending supporters to mock him at his own events.

Romney bussing in supporters…..

WillWong

about how far the Romney creeps are willing to go and tell us are you still just as proud of your man!

rightwingnut2

…increases to the minimum wage.

http://hotair.com/archives/2012/02/01/romney-oh-youd-better-believe-i-support-automatic-increases-to-the-minimum-wage/

elayman

Mitt doesn’t even have enough substance that would rise to the level of faking or falsely suppressing I get the impression that he wants to be President just for the sake of being President, I don’t ever get the feeling that doing the job is that important to him. He just say anything like a fly in the wind with no conviction whatsoever.

And I think he’s lying when he says he’ll address problems in the social safety net. Just about every economic position he has favored would make the net weaker and the holes bigger. He’s also right about the importance of the middle class to the economy, but again, everything he has proposed would make things worse for them.

Scope

at a brokered convention? As we move along with the various state’s elections, and Romney keeps racking up delegates that are bound to him, who exactly do you think will vote against him, even on a second vote when they are no longer required to stay with their guy? Do you think that the Gingrich, Paul and Santorum delegates will refuse to leave their guy? I can absolutely see Paul’s delegates holding out, and maybe never giving up on Paul ever. Do you think the others would do the same? Suppose Ryan, or Daniels, or Perry’s name came up, do you know how many people would have to be convinced to go that route to get any consensus? I personally believe that Romney has an even greater chance of winning in a brokered convention, even if he can’t get the delegates before then. He is calling in many many chits, and he will gain the needed delegates, about that there is little doubt.

If anything is going to turn the Romney tide, it has to be done very soon, and in a manner that doesn’t put any faith in a brokered convention. That is precisely why keeping as many candidates in the race, for as long as possible, would have been the ticket. Calling for Perry to get out, calling for Bachmann to get out, calling for Santorum to get out, has helped to bring the field into a much narrower focus, with the delegates now being delegated to only a few, rather than split between many. While the vote numbers were not many in Fla. for those that have already suspended, they would have taken more votes had they not suspended, and possible delegates from Romney and Gingrich. Romney has been, and has now doubled down on clearing the field to garner his way to the nomination.

I’ve definitely rethought my position that if we gather behind one candidate, we can pull the win, when no one is willing to go with any one anti-Romney candidate. That is obviously wrongheaded with a Romney in the race. Wasn’t that always the “conventional thinking” in the past? In this year especially, splitting the votes of the conservatives could have resulted in a much different outcome.

WillWong

Kind of make you pine for Newt’s perfect retort to Juan Williams, doesn’t it?

mbrat42

Oh well

rkcurtin

just being himself. A chameleon who can change color but can’t control its tongue. What a worthless lizard.

Just what the Republic needs, another arrogant elite who knows what’s best for the lesser beings hanging out here.

All that is left is prayer only at this time.

tngal

I envision one with an ABR button, the other with a Romney hat and arguments at the virtual water cooler. One pointing to his eyes and then pointing to his opponents eyes. A Redstate standoff.

Newt got taken out of context with the kosher thing. Mitt gets taken out of context on the poor are entitled to entitlements thing. Or whatever.

I hate this primary. Its depressing. I want Cain back. I need his enthusiasm and his motivation, And before all you Perrybots attack Cain, you’re just as depressed as I am. You lost your enthusiasm when Perry went out. You are as morose and pathetic as I am. (that didn’t come out right, but you know what I mean)

There has got to be a pill, a 12 step program, a hydroponic food or something we can injest to RE-INVIGORATE this da*m conservative movement.

joereagan

http://fivethirtyeight.blogs.nytimes.com/2012/01/31/romney-wins-but-turnout-lags/

The “political professionals” in the Republican Party are fools. They’ve declared war on the very people who gave them victory in 2010, and they think those people will just show up in November no matter what. It looks like they’re going to have to learn their lesson the hard way.

And it doesn’t help that Romney is a terrible candidate.

snowshooze

Romney comes up with the most Asinine stupid statements…
I just cannot believe it.
Then he goes on to embrace food stamps, probably welfare..,. big government social programs…
Which party is he in again?

snowshooze

Was punishment enough.

joereagan

Aside from the fact that the Republican Party has declared war on it, is the inability to think strategically. The only option is to rally around one candidate. At this stage of the cycle, that has to be Gingrich. Whatever his flaws, conservatives getting out there and putting him over the top sends a message about who runs the Republican Party. If Romney wins, the Republican Party will be on life support.

snowshooze

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/the-fix/post/floridas-winner-take-all-delegate-situation-explained/2012/01/31/gIQAXWhRfQ_blog.html

http://www.theprecinctproject.wordpress.com ColdWarrior

Yates Walker at The Daily Caller is spot on:

[T]he worst part of the electable meme. It?s hard to root for weak candidates. Conservatives love America. And our country wasn?t founded and built by mealy-mouths and second-guessers. America was founded by ass-kickers, men and women who took hard stands, come hell or high water. That?s the type of candidate we want, the type they call ?unelectable.? And here?s the kicker: the last one we nominated won 49 states and was re-elected in 1984.

I hope you’ll read the entire article here:

http://dailycaller.com/2012/02/01/the-truth-about-electability/#ixzz1lBBjjuk3

Thank you.

ColdWarrior

snowshooze

Thanks Joe.

trickamsterdam

Why just racism? Don’t underestimate liberal ambitions.

He also said he didn’t care about the very rich, so in addition to saying “poor” is code for “black”, the Democrats can also say “rich” is code for “jews”.

Then they can define him as an anti-semite as well.

I’m using absurdity and exaggeration to make a point…but Romney’s supporters who think he has no baggage are about to find out that it’s not too much of an exaggeration.

With a billion dollars and 75% of the MSM openly rooting for them, Axelrod/Pres Obama are going to be able to define Romney almost any way they want. Already Romney’s negative rating is 49%….higher than Obama’s.

What I don’t want to hear over the next nine months?

Romney people whining about Romney being outspent by Obama; the fact that Obama can’t run on his record so he has to be negative about Romney; the fact that the MSM hate Romney.

All these things were complaints by Newt/Perry fans about Romney and they couldn’t have cared less. We were losers and were told to just “suck it up”. Well in the General Election it’s going to be their turn to suck…I guess what sucks around goes around.

BROKERED.CONVENTION.NOW.OR.OBAMA.AGAIN.SOON.

joereagan

Conservatives, Tea Party voters, the people who were responsible for 2010, have been disaffected with the candidates in general. Starting with South Carolina, they were prepared to rally around Gingrich. Romney and the “establishment” stopped them in FL with their coordinated assault on Gingrich.

Romney won by convincing conservatives to stay home. Let’s see how that works out for them in November.

mbrat42

Hang the code, and hang the rules. They’re more like guidelines anyway.

yea37ey

Another amazing moment from a leading member of the ” New Conservativism ” .I use this term , because Erick , Rush , Sean , Valentine and Laura ARE NOT REAGAN CONSERVATIVES !!! Would Reagan Conservatives bash a candidate they don’t like because he has money and thier chosen candidate does not have as much ? ” It’s not fair that Romney out spent Newt in Florida ! “These New Conservatives whine like petulant children . Erick , you seem to be a ” Conservative ” of convenience.You support Capitalism until your candidate bashes it . Then you become almost as big a hater of the rich as Marx or Engles were . You hate the ” Establishment ” . You tell all that will listen how you wish to purge them from the Republican Party but again whine when they refuse to back candidates you support . Newt and all his straying from conservative principles is to be forgiven . Romney , who has never claimed to be a Reagan Conservative is not to be forgiven . Why ? Because you believe Newt is the real conservative in the race ? Would Reagan bash Capitalism , agree with the health care mandate , believe in climate change and declare that his era was over ? Erick , Rush , Sean , Valentine and Laura your acts are getting old . Your not Conservatives !! Just career minded opportunists .

Flagstaff

We know that Newt can match Mitt, stupid statement for stupid statement. At least Mitt’s dumba– statements usually need to be taken out of context and don’t include sofa-sitting and pictures. Ron Paul? Right, a paragon of clarity. Rick Santorum? “Vote for Arlen!” He’s been left alone because nobody’s paying him any attention.

The ones who have dropped out were no better.

None of them seem to recognize that the “free” press will be glad to quote them directly but selectively and pretend to be fair, whatever that is.

IMO this is being way over-analyzed, but it isn’t insignificant. Just don’t think that if Romney were not there it wouldn’t be happening to Newt or Santorum. The fact is that the press loves it when one of us speaks the truth about anything social. We are so afraid of being labeled “insensitive” that when we speak plainly about our entitlement culture we immediately have to go into defensive mode if it isn’t couched in just the right language.

scottishjew

when a primary candidate buffaloes (spelling?) all the other potential candidates years before the primary. Mitt Platitudes starting running 4 years ago again. He bought up a lot of support among the party establishment. Scared off better candidates with he gazillions of dollars. This happened with Dole too. In 1996, I went to a Republican conclave (or whatever) in Atlantic City in February. All the candidates were there. Keyes, Lamar, Spector, etc. They all spoke. Then all the New Jersey leadership literally paraded around the room one day with Dole signs. It was obvious that Dole had locked them up a long time ago. No one else stood a chance. There was no primary season. That’s what’s happening again.

scottishjew

democrats are coming into the Republican party and running. The only bad thing with the fall of the Soviet Empire was that democrats were no longer forced to bad mouth socialism. Many had to show hawkish colors or could not get elected. With the S.U. gone, liberals took over the democratic party pushing out moderate democrats. Guess where they went? That has turned the Republican Party left. The tea party is a reaction against the left leaning republicans as it is against the liberals.

votemout2012

I wish everyday for some conservative to have a light bulb moment and wake us up from this nightmare. What is the solution? We need a do over.

tngal

The idea was born in ’69. Then we had both Bush’s trying to make a go of it and then…..Obama defunded.
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“Much of the criticism of his space plans, especially in the media, have been unfair, said Alan Stern, NASA’s space sciences chief during George W. Bush’s administration. He said Gingrich is just thinking big, like a pioneer.
“That’s how ‘Star Trek’ begins,” said Stern, vice president of the Southwest Research Institute and director of the Florida Space Institute. “But when a government guy or politician talks that way, they just get clobbered about being unrealistic and that’s unfortunate.”
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http://news.yahoo.com/experts-gingrich-moon-dreams-not-lunacy-193413663.html

avagreen

http://history.nasa.gov/moondec.html

People with small minds come up with small criticisms. Only shows their ignorance, not the person who originates the idea being criticized.

lightspeed

“the Democrats can also say ?rich? is code for ?jews?.”

It might help him get some Ron Paul supporters…

wyowumin

for one moment and it’s appalling and very revealing that the Republican Establishment–which DOES exist no matter how much they protest–thinks that this dork can come close.

He’s always been, in my opinion, inarticulate. He says stupid things and doesn’t seem to ever get the message even when it’s pointed out to him. He’s got such a tin ear and he’s always knocking on the wrong door. And this inarticulate dolt was the one who was supposed to show up Rick Perry as an ignorant, incoherent hayseed.

God help us. I despair.

Scope

Who do you support, and why are you here, when everything written here attacks your sensibilities? What is your purpose for posting at RS?

Flagstaff

Here’s hoping that whoever the candidate is has the sense to USE them.

We’ve gone from “Your Uncle Joe could beat Obama” to “We are doomed if Romney is the nominee.”

IMO, all the wailing about Romney’s gaffes show very little confidence in the public to recognize reality. Maybe that lack of confidence is warranted, but if so we are indeed doomed, no matter the candidate, because our advantage over Obama is that we are correct and he’s wrong. If the electorate is too dull to figure that out after the last three years, his Hope for Change will again win the day.

Truly, Gingrich can explain things better (although he also tends to say unfortunate phrases), but he’s doing his explaining from the bottom of a deep hole. That’s why he lost Florida, advertising or not.

oldlady

Actually NOT awarding the fair number of delegates to the candidates who won them is punishing Florida voters who wanted their votes to be included in the delegate counts.

It would seem to any fair minded person that NOT awarding the proper delegates to candidates only REWARDS Mitt Romney!
Something, indeed, that is emanating from the RNC on this is indeed very odious!

http://www.plumbbobblog.com Plumb_Bob

With Romney, they won’t even need to invoke “code words.”

They’ll just have nasty shills writing about the flagrant racism of the Mormon church right up ’till 1980, and its tokenism and persistent racism since.

Mitt Romney cannot win a national election. Newt Gingrich — maybe. Rick Santorum — maybe. Paul Ryan — yes. Chris Christie — yes. Sarah Palin — maybe. But not Mitt. Please, not Mitt. He’s a dead loss.

Scope

who is willing to burn down villages, towns, and cities to win the nomination. That is if he can’t buy the job first. Hey, George Soros said he would be happy to support either Romney or Obama. That should scare the crap out of ever voter who is even just a little republican.

JSobieski

Romney is the opposite—bad policies with a harsh media image.

Newt sitting on a sofa with Pelosi or appearing with Sharpton re: Charter schools are not negatives in a general election campaign.

wyowumin

and depressed as all get out but what are we and you Cainiacs supposed to do???

The only real Conservatives have been effectively shoved out and look what we have left.

I don’t think 12 steps, vitamins are going to help. I’m thinking lobotomy.

oldlady

to find out, much to their chagrin, that masses of broken glass conservatives falling in line in November are a thing of the past.

Scope

When it gets to the convention, and Preibus decides that the early states punishment, with getting only 1/2 their delegates, are actually allowed to bring their full slate of delegates. Hasn’t that already happened in the past? Hey, I’m gonna whip your butt if you make my life hard, but of well, we’ll let that all go. Preibus can do that as RNC Chair.

oldlady

when George W. Bush was the pre-ordained choice. The membership didn’t even bother to pretend that there was any other choice being considered. I walked out and never attended a GOP meeting again!

clowngirl

Why should Florida get to be winner take all when all the other states at this stage have to allocate their delegates proportionally?

Newt won in SC by close to the same margin as Romney did in FL. He didn’t get to take all the delegates, so neither should Romney.

They shouldn’t be giving Florida exceptional treatment.

oldlady

about. The only thing they risk by doing so is that the already steamed base will revolt in even greater numbers in November.

Flagstaff

I loved the space program. It is a different world today. (Couldn’t make the link work)

Today, there are at least two things wrong with the idea. We can’t afford it–it wouldn’t cost billions, it would cost trillions, and it might cost the q-word. There is a huge difference between sending three men at a time to the moon while allowing only two of them on the surface and then bringing them back, compared to putting hundreds of people there together for a sustained period of time, with enough fuel, food, air, and water, to sustain them while they do “mining” and then bringing back both them and the fruits of their labors.

Second, there is no point to it beyond some very good PR (if successful, which is not possible). He can’t be serious about it. This is EXACTLY what the Gingrich detractors were talking about regarding his “dozens of ideas every day.”

avagreen

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Common_Cents

It would be easier for the establishment arm of the party to join the tea party/conservatives in backing Gingrich than it would to get the TP/conservatives to join the establishment to back Romney.

Nobody is talking about that. Wonder why….

Scope

Well he’s pretty dumb, but unfortunately we now own him (after 4 races) so let’s all just get down and dirty with “teh dumb.”

If you really believe that Christie would have been better than Mitt, the one Christie endorsed, then you are rabidly against research and vetting, and have bought into the same dumb recipe put out there for all to consume.

Flagstaff

There is a huge difference between sending three men to the moon and back (Apollo 13 showed even that is a shaky proposition) and putting a colony of hundreds there and bringing back both them and their product.

I’m for BIG ideas myself. Let’s make sure they’re GOOD, big ideas.

To be very clear, “too expensive” and “not productive” and “impossible” are not small criticisms. They are major flaws in Newt’s proposal. They go to the heart of the matter, just as they do to the idea of raising tax rates to balance the budget.

snowshooze

Not exactly an endorsment.

tngal

I haven’t seen you in a six months of Sundays. Ps. Where is the word privatize? You telling me a consortium of Apples, and GE’s and a couple of other big namers couldn’t scrape up the cash to start off with 8 in a quantsut hut. Then expand?

Scope

When the economy and jobs are the biggest issues, and so many are having a hard time with regular nornmal expenses, you really can support the bat crap crazy idea of “moon colonies.” I know you are a person of passion, as you displayed with your support of Perry, but, if Perry had proposed “moon colonies” I would be trying to make excuses for him, I’d have run so far, and so fast from supporting him, as I would think him truly “unelectable.” Come on, you can’t be serious?

Flagstaff

Looking at what’s been reported in Florida, it seems that Romney can pick up more votes than he loses, while the opposite is true for Newt. Your statement may be accurate, but the converse is that Romney seems more likely to get non-Republican votes than does Newt.

As a proud tea-partier, I’d like to see them both talking about reducing taxes, balancing the budget through spending reductions, encouraging free enterprise, and reducing the size, scope, and ambitions of government.

redcal

I have no doubt that Romney would have been able to get the RNC to slice it more. This is a battle of establishments, and Romney’s is much stronger. The RNC is the puppet here, not the string.

Scope

for the entire country if those private investors did something with their investments to get the most people employed, not the few that are pushed, and subsidized to to have honey moon hotels on the moon. Then again, that would be something that Cain would probably love. I’m sure Mrs. Cain wouldn’t be peeking in the windows.

avagreen

Just drawing a comparison.
The decision involved much consideration before making it public, as well as enormous human efforts and expenditures to make what became Project Apollo a reality by 1969. Only the construction of the Panama Canal in modern peacetime and the Manhattan Project in war were comparable in scope.
http://history.nasa.gov/moondec.html

avagreen

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clintonformccain

This all seems like a lot of needless handwringing to me. Staking out a position as a champion of the middle class, even at the expense of poor people, seems like a pretty good place to be for a Republican candidate. Heck, it was even a good position for Bill Clinton (Sistah Souljah, ending welfare as we know it, etc.).

Most Americans think of themselves as middle class and anyone who considers themselves.poor is probably solidly in Obama’s column to begin with.

lineholder

I know plenty of people who fell into that category of “middle America” two years ago who now find themselves faced with the reality of being “poor” due to Obama’s “generous and noble” socialistic policy plans. They vote. And I daresay they won’t be all thrilled about voting for Romney at this point.

Romney just doesn’t get how bad it really is out here in the real world. He really doesn’t.

(At the moment, I’m badly missing Herman Cain. 9-0-9 and opportunity zones at least provided people on the low end of the spectrum with a reason to hope that they could change their circumstances).

I’m all in for backing down-ticket races, Erick. Where do we start???

Flagstaff

But he swamped Newt. Of course money makes a difference, but I think it was more than that.

edintexas

“Still, we?re stuck with this guy.”

Nice to know the majority of the country doesn’t count. You could be right, but Iowa, NH and FL are hardly representative of the country. FL has many “snowbirds” who vote absentee at home and register and vote in FL too. How many Republicans do you know who would do that? And the retiree full time residents in FL bring their politics with them, though they don’t vote in 2 states Those retirees aren’t coming from Alabama.

AceInTX

who said anything in this either Erick’s post, or the thread post you are responding to about Romney’s money?

The discussion is about gaff a minute Romney sticking his size 14s into his gaping maw every time he says anything….

as for this:

Would Reagan bash Capitalism , agree with the health care mandate , believe in climate change

Doesn’t that describe Windsock Romney to a tee?

When is the last time you had a coherant thought and strung two consistent entrances together?

Oh…and way to win conservatives over to your candidate by the way!

End Sarc

avagreen

that would be cutting it close.

Moon colonies have been talked about for ages.

“Dominating space will be costly. In 2004, when President George W. Bush introduced a space exploration initiative that aimed to establish a base on the moon (among other goals), costs were projected to be about $100 billion through 2020. President Obama, however, canceled the mission in 2010, because it was running behind schedule and was costing too much money.

Could we actually live on the moon? Because of health concerns, moon residency would likely be temporary at first, said Mike Gold, a director of operations at Bigelow Aerospace, which develops spacecrafts and inflatable space station modules.

“People will want to avoid too much exposure to radiation and microgravity and won’t want to lose the ability to live on Earth, so some sort of rotation of personnel is likely,” Gold said.
Who’s backing the GOP candidates?

Lunar ice could potentially be used to supply water, air and even rocket fuel to a “lunar settlement,” which could lower costs of transporting resources to the moon, he said. Gold is also optimistic that massive deposits of Helium 3, an element found on the moon, could become a significant source of energy for use on the moon and on Earth in the future.

“It’s a mistake to laugh at Newt Gingrich and discount the concept of a Lunar Base. This isn’t funny, this is the future,” said Gold. “People I’m sure mocked Columbus and early explorers at the time and how did that work out?
http://money.cnn.com/2012/01/27/pf/newt_gingrich_moon_colony/index.htm

…….guess that makes three of us that have gone off the deep end: gingrich, Mike Gold, a director of operations at Bigelow Aerospace, and……me.

Ender

as if your own ridiculous and continuous bashing of Romney and his supporters will somehow persuade us we are wrong in supporting a good and solid candidate.

Rudy

Is this really the GENERAL Election!

We are in a primary where the leader:

-has a state version of the Obamacare (the most important topic on most conservative’s mind)

-has a democrat-like-sleazy-attack-ad-campaign

-Puts Liberal judges on the bench

-And now class warfare

What in the world is going on???!!!!

tngal

the Cainiacs, and the Perrybots, Pawlenpeeps and Bachbenchers will somehow make it through without brain surgery. (Unsure of Paulites. The docs are conference calling each other to see if there’s a universal prescription. Its sad they got infected . They were all so young.)

edintexas

It’s a good thing you weren’t an adviser to Roosevelt in 1942, or Kennedy in 1961. You would have told them “impossible” also. I can agree with too expensive, very difficult, etc. But “impossible” and “not possible”? Mankind hasn’t progressed to the point we have by thinking “impossible”.

I prefer the US Army Engineers WW II (and later) Motto: “The difficult we do immediately, the impossible takes a little longer.”

AceInTX

who cares about how polished his campaign team is?

Who cares if the whole establishment is lined up behind him?

Who cares what geniuses he’s surrounded himself with?

Who cares what narrative his team has written about him?

In the end…we’re faced with a flawed candidate who combines the principles and excitement of Bob Dole George H W Bush
with the petty arrogance and nasty temperament of John McCain who flip flops like john Kerry and is stiff as Al Gore…the…now we add the gaff a minute foot in mouth contortions of Joe Freaking Biden….

Take every negative quality and irritating tendency of every losing presidential candidate for the last 40 years and you have Willard “The Rat” Mitt Romney!!!

What a bunch of mindless idiots we have running this party!!!

brand

Because the Republicans need Florida in the general. ’nuff said.

snowshooze

It is strictly intra party stuff. Amounts to how much pull Florida has, and how it is applied. If they do a complete walkback, Romney get’s 100, if they hold course, Romney gets 50, if they go porportionsl as is, Newt gets’s some where presently, he get’s zippo.
This is super establishment power politics.

http://beaglescout.wordpress.com;http://news.unifiedpatriots.com/ Beaglescout

It’s because he is trying to say what people want to hear instead of following his own principles. I have a feeling that he has principles he abides by internally. But he won’t express them out loud because they are misunderstood. And that has him playing prevent defense against Democrats and the Pravda media. I think he really is as progressive as he claimed when running against Kennedy, and that in combination with the prevent defense will doom him in the general.

Why would a fair weather voter who just wants to cast a vote for the winner flip the switch for a milquetoast semi-progressive when he could vote for the real thing?

bluerose75

Again conservatives keep trying to warn people about this tin suit. Yesterday he was all thrilled with his hollow victory in a moderate state where over 99 percent of all Romney Ads and his SuperPac Ads were negative. Newts SuperPac only 53 percent were negative. He won nothing yesterday. He outspent Newt 5 to 1 and that was his right but at what cost??

Now the tin suit has just about shot himself out of the election. This will be played over and over and over by Obama and his 1 billion dollar war chest. The arrogance of the tin suit finally was shown for what it is!! Of course now the tin suit says “it was taken out of context” buddy you are toast. Do you realize how that will turn off independents….the ones the GOP Establishment thinks you have a chance with?

By the way tin suit NBC Poll shows your favorables with Independents went from 46 percent to 23 percent…since your Florida attacks. That came out yesterday evening. You lost 50 percent of your favorables with the coveted Independents.

Now this gaffe…remember Allen in Virginia with his gaffe??? He never recovered and buddy this Poor comment just made Obama’s day…23 percent favorable with Independents….check tomorrow you will be lucky if you are in the teens!!

Yes so much for the arrogant, big mouth Newt hey lightspeed!! All these Romney supporters were lecturing us about how Romney was sooo Presidential and Newt a loose cannon!!

Fire Away Mates!! Oh it is Romney’s Mouth that hit the bow!! Sinking Ship!! Sinking Ship!!

http://www.examiner.com/x-1597-Charlotte-Law--Politics-Examiner Mike gamecock DeVine

hasn’t presided over massive economic suffering after his agenda was passed. The defeat of Obama will produce a huge recovery that we need, quite apart from the apparent death of our shared dream that a tea partier candidate and agenda would dominate the process…

But it still could…

warrior300

Romney is the death-knell of the Republican Party. Ever since the 2010 Congressional elections, the Republicans have led the generic congressional race for 2012 over the Democrats in the Rassmussen Poll, at times by as much as 8% to 10%. Today is the first day since the 2010 elections, where Rassmussen has the Democrats up by one percent over the Republicans in the generic congressional poll.

With the Congressional Republicans proving once again that they are no more serious about cutting spending than the Democrats, it is no surprise that they are quickly losing support. Republicans should have won 2/3rds to 3/4ths of the Senate seats up for election this year. Now we can forget about the Republicans taking control of the Senate. With Romney leading the ticket, Pelosi must already be counting the days until she will be Speaker of the House again. The Tea Party is in shambles, and Newt will be out of the picture as a serious candidate before we even get to the Super Tuesday primaries in March.

I have no intention of voting in this election with its current makeup of candidates, and the actions of a go-a-long with the One Percent Republican congress. Obama has violated the constitution on so many levels, and has had one of the most corrupt administrations in American history, that he may not even be the Democratic candidate by November. It will make no difference. The Democrats will still win. The Republicans have nothing to offer as an alternative that would have any credibility with the voters. Hillary becomes the candidate, and the Democrats will win in a landslide.

If Obama is re-elected, then instead of dealing with our problems, the Republicans will spend their time probably trying to impeach him; particularly, if I’m wrong in my prognosis of a Democratic take-over of the House, and the G.O.P retains marginal control of it. The next four years under the Democrats, and even under one percenter, Romney, will be the final death knell for the republic; which is why the likes of George Soros can feel comfortable with either candidate for President. What is to be expected from a decadent nation, of debaucherous people, living in degrading times. Americans get the kind of government they deserve. Soros certainly has one thing right in his recent comment, the current American problems are not one of mismanagement and incompetence; they simply are due to evil.

What difference does it make which party wins the election this fall, when the nation is enshrouded in an unholy trinity of rampant hedonism, rapacious greed and empty materialism, and egregious narcissism. These are our gods. I can’t understand why atheists are oppose to “In God We Trust” on our currency. I guess like “hope and change”, the atheists just are not bright enough to ask exactly how the word “god” is being defined. There’s a reason why we Americans refer to it as “The Almighty Dollar”.

People, collectively, in any civilization, just don?t know how to balance affluence without it triggering the unholy trinity. Unfortunately, modern day America has learned nothing from history.

gracie

what have we got to lose?? Why not give it a try?? I pick Ryan/Jindal. At this point they would probably do it.

These stupid remarks by Romney today show us we are going to lose. So why not try? I swear if I lived In VA I would vote for Paul.

And I get you about moon colonies but when Newt got my attention back was when he said the Chinese are going to own space. Suddenly that idea sucked. Not only did we start it we should not give up all control. You can rein Newt in on colonies. I’d much rather hear the get-a-job, own-a job Pres than the class warfare President!

bluerose75

Beautifully defined, well said and crafted for anyone to clearly understand! Mitt embodies everything that resembles a “loser” and this gaffe today was icing on the cake. Can you imagine the damage this will do in the Midwest? South? That remark to people in small towns, good hard working families that are struggling and others will so turn them off to this guy. Can you see Obama painting him with that Wall Street cold indifference? Oh that will play so well with people that look at Mitt and see a phony now!!

Joe Biden…Mitt is the same he just has more hair!! And about exciting as watching paint dry!

Negatives…would you say for Romney they just went through the roof. Newt and Rick can make a field day with this gaffe and with the tin suit he deserves it!

snowshooze

God does have a sense of humor.

lineholder

Their numbers are declining. The number of people in the ranks of Conservatives is increasing. They can’t let those awful “hobbits” succeed! They might lose what power they still have.

They don’t have a strong enough natural base of support in the moderate ranks to pull it off by themselves. So they’ve been pandering to Conservatives in their own condescending kind of way. After all, as Boehner said, “What are they [meaning Conservatives] going to do…vote Democrat?

But they aren’t sure about being able to keep Conservatives in line. They don’t want to see a repeat of the mid-terms because so many of their own got hit.

So in order to play the odds, they have to straddle the fence on just about every issue known to mankind, hoping they can make up the difference by appealing to Indies and possibly even some fiscally-conservative Dems [yes, they still exist] who don’t agree with Obama’s economic policies.

Melody Warbington (rwm52)

and no, it is not vulgar at all.

earlgrey

It we go down the tubes I guess I’d rather the blame go to Obama.

AceInTX

and not hand the enemy a gun to shut us with….THAT is the problem…Romney can’t explain why we’re right….because he doesn’t agree that we’re right…..pick the issue….he’s been on the left side of it at one point or another…and to the extent that he’s acting like he’s on the right side of it now,…it’s just that…and act…if he wins the nomination….then the general…I’m convinced we’re going to witness a Nixon 2.0 presidency where the advances of the left in the administration prior to their taking office will be permanently enshrined and expanded upon.

Flagstaff

My computer is driving me crazy this week.

Seriously, I have no problem with Apple, GE, and even Viacom getting together to do something like that. For some reason, they don’t seem to be interested. Which makes both of my points–it’s non-productive at the expected cost.

About all it could be is the solar system’s (can’t say “world’s”) most expensive penal colony. “Lunaustraliagitmo.”

acat

then visit the campaign web site and/or call them and ask for literature, then write a diary.

In my case, Illinois, Dick Durbin (D-Eddie Haskell) will be up in 2014, and Mark Kirk (R-ish) will be up in 2016….

I’m seriously considering talking to some of the folks running to be in the statehouse and writing them up.

Mew

joereagan

Here’s the link again:

http://fivethirtyeight.blogs.nytimes.com/2012/01/31/romney-wins-but-turnout-lags/

This is not supposition, it’s math. It is a fact.

The Tea Party movement was the result of conservatives taking matters into their own hands after the Republican Party had failed and destroyed itself. The Romney candidacy, as a proxy for the Republican establishment, is predicated upon getting rid of the Tea Party influence and re-instituting the power of the elite. Which means the GOP will go right back to where it was in 2006 and 2008.

If the so called “experts” in DC can’t look at the numbers and see what’s happening, they’re even bigger idiots than they appear to be. Newt Gingrich is not merely the only hope for conservatives. The reality for the GOP elite is that despite his flaws, Newt Gingrich is THEIR only hope. If they realize that in time, all may not be lost.

If not, it will be 2008 all over again, despite Obama’s many failures. Because Romney is a cardboard candidate. He has not been examined, he has merely stood back while his opponents were destroyed by proxies. Once Mitt stands alone against Obama and the left wing machine, he will disintegrate. He cannot connect with average voters, he is the ideal opponent for Obama, and he is not a skilled politician. He gives terrible speeches, performs weakly in debates, and has no core principles. He comes across as a con artist and a phony, and his biography is a weakness, not a strength.

joereagan

Is based on having 80-90% of the funding come from the private sector. But the Romney attack machine has made sure everybody ignores that. In any case, it was clearly a play for the NASA vote in FL. I wouldn’t expect to hear much about it anywhere else, except maybe Texas and California.

http://www.examiner.com/x-1597-Charlotte-Law--Politics-Examiner Mike gamecock DeVine

utterances. That was the problem.. I favor a rejuvenated NASA that puts us #1 in space for defense reasons.

Scope

persuade you of anything. Romney has had his 25% that has followed him around for the last 6-7 years. That’s a long time to hold onto a love affair with a candidate. No one will change the minds of the Paulies either. Once addicted, it takes a major intervention of reality to wake some up. I do think you will be more than woken up in Nov. when he loses to Obama. But hey, that’s your choice. There are many just waiting to say “told you so.”

Flagstaff

Thanks to Tojo, our parents were pretty much united against our enemies and willing to “do without.” Take a look at Occupy Wall Street and tell me that’s true today.

With today’s technology, and even with tomorrow’s, what Newt is suggesting is a pipe dream. Just because you can utter an idea doesn’t make it practical, nor in this case, possible. Why doesn’t he throw in that we’ll use anti-gravity machines and teleportation to get to the moon and back? And again, what is the purpose? “So the Chinese won’t beat us to it.” But the Chinese can’t do it either–they are still stealing missile and computer technology from us. They have to turn a city to “standby” in order to hold the Olympics in clean air.

As for Kennedy, just how much of our GDP was spent on the space program? Not a lot, I suggest.

Newt is trying to meld Giuliani’s successful New York City recovery program with Broken Windows economic theory. It doesn’t work if you break the windows yourself. We HAD to win WWII. We don’t HAVE to build a base on the moon.

lineholder

Here’s a site with the general information for my state of NC

http://www.politics1.com/nc.htm

The Senator for my area of the state is Richard Burr. He’s not up for re-election until 2016. Kay Hagan is the other Senator, and she’s not up again until 2014.

Bev Perdue is retiring. Long list of Ds jumping on the bandwagon. Two Rs….McCrory and Schell.

I’m in District 12. (The phrase “gerry-mandered” doesn’t do this district justice…unless of course the word “excessively” is included.) Mel Watts is here. At least he does have opposition this time around. (Including a Libertarian, BTW). That’s probably the best place for me to start.

papabear

n/t

joereagan

Self-appointed pundits declaring that someone has “jumped the shark” does not make it so. Ask average voters, and most will be either unaware of it, or won’t care. It’s an extremely minor issue.

acat

That said, yes, I’d favor a stronger space presence. The idea of a “Rods from God” system in non-allied paws gives me pause. (google it, or.. heck, the wikipedia entry isn’t too hopelessly wrong…)

Gingrich definitely nuked the ‘fridge with the statehood comment, but .. he raises a valid point. We would be foolish to not assume the course of human events would be significantly different for a lunar colony.

Honestly, I’m glad Gingrich is able to look that far ahead, but I wish he’d filter his comments to what most of the electorate care about … four years out at *most*.

Mew

joereagan

Claiming to be a “proud tea-partier” while supporting Romney doesn’t pass the smell test. Romney represents everything the Tea Party was created to oppose.

acat

Put on your Reporter hat and tell us what you can find out about McCrory and Schell.

2012 is shaping up to be an election where reverse-coattails matter quite a lot.

Mew

Flagstaff

Republican turnout was down. That could mean many things, including that Republicans had heard the Mitt was going to win and thought it was OK with them. If they were upset with the idea, they might have turned out to vote for Newt, right? How many of Newt’s votes in SC came from Democrats voting in the Republican primary?

I can’t judge some of your other assertions. Maybe I’m not an “average voter,” because Mitt connects with me OK. Doesn’t come across to me as a con artist or a phony. I haven’t read his biography, but I’m not anti-Mormon, if that’s what you mean. I am pro-business, something that Newt may or may not be familiar with. Hard to tell because his history has continuously been that of making his living off some form of government work.

As you may have noticed in 2010, it takes more than the support of Tea Party members to elect someone to general office. I have no doubt that Newt is more appealing to the Tea Party for his outspoken conservatism, but when it comes to free enterprise, smaller government, and balancing budgets, they are not that far apart. And Romney has some successful executive experience in his past of a different sort than Newt’s.

kelp

When the Democrats stripped Florida of every delegate and refused to back down before the convention. They still won FL

Flagstaff

And be proud about it. In six years, you’re the first commenter I’ve felt that reply was appropriate for.

traversecityconservative

Because this was planned ahead of time. The same thing will happen in Michigan. If Romney wins, they’ll give him more delegates than if someone else wins. The GOP establishment is as bad as the Democrats.

Flagstaff

to be allowed to develop technology to enable a colony on the moon?

//crickets//

And I thought pandering for votes was a BAD thing.

traversecityconservative

Ryan/Jindal…DeMint/Rubio…Cheney(Liz)/Trump…I could come up with about a zillion combinations better than what we have now. Wish Newt or Santorum would lock in the Rubio VP slot and come out with a full ticket to bury Romney.

traversecityconservative

I really need to know what he is good and solid about. By good and solid, I assume you mean he has the right idea about something and he’s consistent? I need to hear that list.

traversecityconservative

Mitt should be the “unconcerned nominee”- unconcerned about Obamacare…unconcerned about the very poor…

ethos

Very inarticulate if there is a good message behind it, or otherwise an indication of Mitt’s potential disconnect from conservative ideology. I don’t blame people who feel disgusted with Romney for this, and I think it will be a very cumbersome weight around his neck that he’ll have to overcome.

http://www.examiner.com/x-1597-Charlotte-Law--Politics-Examiner Mike gamecock DeVine

with future excellence

creinstein

Mitt or Obama and the economy will nose dive. 25% will be on the actual unemployment rolls while another 25% give up hope.

The roads are barren as few can afford gas, businesses shutter, except the lucky diehards.

The Republicans have the House and Senate, but they bicker, or act to bicker, on how to end Obamacare, save the economy, and get things on track.

Then in 2014 the Democrats in a blitz sieze complete control of the House and Senate.

2016 is the day of Conservatives, as we finally sweep the nation, but they will be forced to try to restore America more than anything else, as the Dems will have looted everything left and nosedived our credit.

To the general in the South, march the while way or not at all.

Flagstaff

about it.

It demonstrates a complete disregard for costs and reality. (But it sure illustrates a side of Newt that’s nothing at all like Ron Paul.)

Newt, your “champion of the Tea Party” (if I read your other comment correctly), is suggesting what is realistically a trillion-dollar plus program that has no discernible useful product to come from it. Space is not only the “final frontier,” it’s also a huge black hole that we can pour as much money as we want into. And no mention of how this will help reduce debt and balance the budget, other than “let private enterprise do it.” Well, private enterprise gives no indication of WANTING to do it. So, do we give them INCENTIVES to do so? Not acceptable to the Tea Party.

It’s far from a “minor issue” if he were to try to do it. It would be a HUGE issue. Or are you admitting he was just blowing it out his ears for effect? I can hear Obama now, “My opponent says he wants to balance the budget. But he also wants to establish a colony on the moon, at unimaginable cost. Is he just pandering for votes in Florida, or is he delusional?”

creinstein

Joe is correct, Mitt is everything we opposed.

deVere

http://www.opposingviews.com/i/politics/2012-election/prediction-someone-else-will-swoop-nab-gop-nomination

Hopefully from his mouth to God’s ears.

How about a Palin/Giuliani ticket? I think I could live with that.

If Newt can somehow get an endorsement from his two ex-wives he might win the election. Anyone know of a world-class hypnotist? LOL

creinstein

Give me a fighter, someone I can salute with pride, someone that generations will say ‘that man was great and did great things’

Newt did great things.

Mitt has done nothing.

Do not make a Mittstake!

runner12

Honestly Scope, things are so bad right now that I am willing to risk a brokered convention. I just do not think we have anything to lose at this point.

Given Mittens horrible gaffe, the powers-that-be may be more open to this idea at this point as well

If over 50% of GOP voters are less than enthusiastic about our choices right now, would it not be a good idea to try and nominate someone we can all live with at a brokered convention?

I am willing to take the risk.

deVere

nt

clowngirl

All the more reason to think Newt can have a third surge.

The Grognard

n/t

Flagstaff

Take turns. Work together.

Here I thought we opposed Obama.

And incidentally, defending the truth isn’t the same as supporting a candidate. It may just seem that way to you. Good luck in the election. Do you have any chance at all in North Portland?

http://www.doctor-bob.biz rsklaroff

http://www.poconorecord.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20120201/NEWS90/120209964/-1/rss01

Donald Trump to make ?major announcement,? could endorse Gingrich

By NewsCore
February 01, 2012
LAS VEGAS ? Donald Trump will make ?a major announcement? Thursday, according to a memo circulated by an adviser ? sparking speculation the real estate mogul will be endorsing Republican presidential candidate Newt Gingrich.

Citing sources, KLAS-TV reported that Trump, who toyed with the idea of a White House bid himself, will throw his support behind the former House speaker in an announcement around 12:30pm local time at the Trump International Hotel & Tower in Las Vegas.

?The announcement will pertain to the presidential race,? Trump adviser Michael Cohen wrote in the brief message.

After his double-digit loss to Mitt Romney in Florida on Tuesday, Gingrich was campaigning in Reno Wednesday ahead of the Feb. 4 caucuses in Nevada.

Gingrich told reporters there he did not know what Trump was planning to announce, adding that he had not had any contact with the reality TV star since a meeting in New York a few weeks ago, according to the Los Angeles Times.

?I have no idea what The Donald is going to do,? Gingrich said. ?He is always interesting, and I don?t know of anybody who does a better job of getting attention by announcing that he will presently announce something.?

Gingrich and former Pennsylvania Sen. Rick Santorum ? who are currently competing to be the social conservative alternative to frontrunner Romney ? were the only candidates who agreed to participate in a debate to be moderated by Trump.

The debate, which was to be hosted by the conservative website Newsmax in late December, never went ahead.

demsaresatanic

Romney noticed that Newt’s “Food Stamp President ” resonated and wanted in on the action. Newt resonated because he felt it, Romney stumbled because he was acting, merely saying what he thought we wanted to hear.

jamesm

Somehow i dont think Romney can get the nomination. Get ready for a wild next few months.

demsaresatanic

spot on post. Nailed it.

demsaresatanic

Newt lobbied Soros.

creinstein

Sand is to easy.

As for my chances…

I need one of my two Aces to work. If either works I drown in fundraising and I win against all odds.

My Caucus see’s me as a long long, can we get lucky of a shot, sorta like I see Romney… can we get lucky with the emedia to back oir socialist?

But I know how to get money if I can get two radio ads, and one television ad up. Then I will be the man to watch.

P.s my opponent is the leader of the Democrats in the House here.

Flagstaff

About the “explanation” thing. It’s why I wasn’t thrilled with the idea of Haley Barbour as candidate, didn’t much like Michelle Bachmann, was hopeful about but disappointed by Perry, got frustrated by Santorum’s repetitions and missteps, know that Ron Paul will never convince a fully informed independent to vote for him, and was completely infuriated by John McCain’s campaign.

Although I’m not as down against Romney as you are, I do understand your issues and share them to an extent. But Gingrich is really not that much better, and he’s starting with his history as a handicap.

I would be right there behind Newt if he had just behaved himself during the last ten years, and I don’t mean maritally or with his FM client. I mean, he has taken non- or anti-conservative positions as often as has Romney, and it’s hard to reconcile that with a conservative believer. Global warming, cap and trade, now a moon colony, medical mandates, Dede Scozzafava–all Gingrich positions at some time, and he was a card-carrying conservative all the time.

But I agree, he does a better job of explaining than Romney does (I think, not sure). Newt’s problem is that there are a lot of people who he might convince who won’t listen to him to allow him to do it. Most (no, all) of those people will let Romney make his pitch. He may not get them all, but he will get some of them. My fear if Mitt is the candidate is that some of the farthest right of us will vote “none of the above” and give a half vote to Obama that way.

I have a huge problem with this whole discussion, because I don’t know WHO of all of them, including the ones not running, does NOT have some problems in the area of explaining, either by diction or by not REALLY being conservative.

If you’re afraid of Nixon 2.0, think about Obama 2.0. Nixon had a Democrat Congress. If we elect a Democrat Congress, Romney might stray from the trail. But IMO, so might Newt. He’s been known to compromise several times himself in order to “get something done.” Let’s make sure the Congress is solid Republican.

The three I like best are Nikki Haley and Bobby Jindal, and of course, Marco Rubio. As near as I can tell, they pass ALL the tests, except the experience test–which Obama has proven may be irrelevant in an election but is important in a President. Which is the problem–our best conservatives are all pretty inexperienced and we don’t have the press in our back pocket to paper over that shortcoming. We go to election with the candidates we have, not the ones we might want.

demsaresatanic

can’t punish twice business? If you rob two banks do you get to keep the money from the second one? Is there some RNC rule which says so?

Flagstaff

It’s a minimum of $15 grand to run for city council here. I suspect you’ll need at least the next order of magnitude.

Oregon is a tough state for conservatives. Our friends are ready to move out.

JSobieski

How many of the three would have voted in favor of TARP? How many would have voted with Boehner on the budget issue or McConnell on the 2 month payroll tax holiday?

My point in raising this is not to dampen your morale, but to point out that every candidate with a record is going to have blemishes. Instead of looking for an unblemeshed candidate, we should look for a candidate with a record of achievement with a ration of the good clearly out quantifying the bad.

Otherwise, if we focus on minimizing blemishes rather than maximizing achievement, people will favor a Bachmann over a Perry and we end up with the scoundrels that we currently have.

aesthete

like listening to a non-native speaker try to speak Spanish: you can really tell when he doesn’t get it, and even when he “gets it”, it’s not his native tongue. Romney is much more comfortable speaking in blithe, technocratic-sounding generalities (basically, corporate-speak and its close kin, bureaucratese) that make it sound like he’s doing something productive for the enterprise he’s involved in. The corporate world is the environment that he excels in, and at the level and industry that he was working in, he got the opportunity to rub shoulders with lots of civil service/bureaucrat types, to get things moving. He is not comfortable talking about philosophy, probably because at heart he is a white collar, “in all things moderation” type. For that matter, he’s not natural-sounding when it comes to the mundane “middle-class America” nonsense that good politicians excel at — kissing babies and the like.

Romney strikes me as a guy that you could put in charge of a department, give your vision to, and have it implemented flawlessly. He’s not the guy you ask to create and instill vision, to think deeply and analytically about something, to be a social butterfly, or to be a hardliner or controversy-generator on any issue. Romney avoids confrontation like the plague, and tries to get people to work together: a great trait in some CEO positions and bureaucratic executive positions, but a horrible one in a system where consensus is impossible and major reform of any kind will find opposition from entrenched interests.

http://www.theprecinctproject.wordpress.com ColdWarrior

sincerely asking how THEY could help sound the alarm to Americans to get involved in politics to defeat Obama and the Dems:

http://www.redstate.com/coldwarrior/2010/06/04/john-mccain-and-mitt-romney-both-flub-what-can-we-do-questions-so-sad/

And if you want a real bad “stroll down memory lane” scroll down and watch the other video clips of McLame and Obamistake.

Thank you.

ColdWarrior

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Especially the part about Romney not being the kind of person who would actually generate a creative vision, much less to succeed in communicating that vision to other people in a way that inspires them to follow his lead. He just doesn’t have that quality.

Listening to Romney talk about Conservatism is like listening to someone recite well-crafted lines. It just doesn’t come across as being genuine and sincere.

snowshooze

I like that.

demsaresatanic

“too expensive,” without your knowing how much it would cost, “not productive” without your knowing what it would produce, “impossible” without knowing why. The only thing clear in your post is that you have very little understanding of the technology spin-offs which resulted from the space program. Try this one, without the demand for high-speed computing created by the space program you might not be typing your thoughts on a computer screen but a piece of paper.

JSobieski

There are quite a few similarities between the two men, although to GHWB’s credit, I remember him getting far more into budgetary specifics during the 1980 primary season.

krish

Romney or congressional republicans! I am sure all of you followed the sham vote that republicans did recently (to defraud voters back home that they are serious about reducing debt) about spending increase by Obama when the same republicans approved a raise in debt ceiling! Only one person to point this out was “Judge Napolitano in Fox business show — did not hear it from our reliable conservative hosts (of course, I do not expect Rush to do that – he is too tied to the republican party! his focus is to get as many listeners & peddle his Tea…$$$$$). Not sure if any other talk show host talked about this sham.

Does anyone believe that there will not be any significant differnece between the current siutation (Obama, Pelosi & Reid) & the one where we have Romney, Boehner & McConnell. Remember when Bush came in to office we had republican houses…Nothing was done.
Rasmussen says that the real debt is more like 120 trillion?
Is there salvation, if so , where is the path out of this mess!

creinstein

To many Dems are quitting, they have got to keep 100% of seats or lose the House, and they can only lose one seat in Seante (Which we are probably guaranteed to get one, probably two at minimum)

The local GOP says if I can raise 10k I will be destroying the dems dreams just by making Tina spend money on herself instead of forward it to new candidates.

Tina raised 100k last election cycle.

krish

Meant to say – “does anyone believe there will be any significant differnece betweeen current situation ……

JSobieski

I think the House’s decision not to draw a line in the sand for an incremental $3T over 10 years was based on a sensible tactical assessment that the “cuts” being proposed were much more real than what the D’s were proposing so why go nuclear?

Conventional wisdom says that President’s always fare better in shutdown situations than Congress, since Congress is made up of multiple members—and people start to peel off.

From my perspective, I would have favored a shutdown—but only the cuts were actually meaningful–CCB was too small to be worth making Obama a politically strong incumbent President.

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you may stand a decent chance. I’ll provide the site address for the map. (I wish I knew how to post a visual image in a comment, because the map is by far one of the most positive things I’ve seen in a while.)

Here’s the address:

http://campaign2012.washingtonexaminer.com/blogs/beltway-confidential/gallup-state-numbers-predict-huge-obama-loss/352881

Best of success to you!!

krish

Both republicans & democrats are Not telling the truth about cuts …the cuts are in the increase Not to the baseline! This is the biggest fraud committed by both parties & even people who follow politics do not understand it!

I heard Boehner in a show where he tried to skate around this issue by changing the topic & rationalized that is how budgets are done in DC!

It would not have helped Obama since it was a golden opportunity to explain this how budgets work & this country is in dire straits. We are Not talking about real cuts & it would have energized conservatives, tea partyers & even republicans & independents who care about fiscal discipline. A great opportunity was lost because leadership is really Not conservative! We need new blood in the Republican party or at least current leadership should be voted out of power!

sandiegovoter

Romney won the Tea Party vote in Florida. He also won the Latino vote, the conservative vote, the senior citizen vote, the youth vote, the women vote, and all of the big counties.

Gingrich proved that his brand just doesn’t sell to conservatives who aren’t biased against Mormons.

sandiegovoter

I’ve been a conservative since I turned 21 years ago. I didn’t back Romney initially. He was not my first choice. But now that it’s down to the final four, I’m solidly in the Romney camp.

I believe that Romney is a conservative. I don’t care about things he said 17 years ago. I don’t really care about things he said 8 years ago. I care about where he is now.

As of now, (and for at least the last 8 years), he is pro-life, pro-family, anti-tax, anti-Obamacare, anti-spending. He has run a successful business which is more than Newt Gingrich can say. He has also stood up for conservative values as the leader of a state that was far too liberal for him.

I can get behind Romney without sacrificing an ounce of conservatism. I can’t get behind Newt. Newt has thrown conservatives under the bus too many times.

sandiegovoter

Romney can recover from this. It wasn’t worded very well. But the part about the poor already having a safety net is true. They don’t need a bigger or stronger safety net. The middle class need a safety net to keep them from becoming poor. They also need government to get out of the way of them trying to work their way up to the upper class.

sandiegovoter

I disagree with all of your predictions. I think that 2012 will be the year that conservatives take back the White House and the Senate.

You can wait for 2016 or 2020 if you like. I’m ready to kick ass this year.

JSobieski

However, you can’t vote out all the R’s and think things won’t get worse.

What we need is (1) significant (2) directionally correct (3) movement.

on the budget issue.

WillWong

Newt’s idea of having school kids do light janitorial work to supplement their income and teach young people the value of work and money was never a gaffe and actually very well received. Newt was able to articulate this idea on the brightest of stage during the debate.

I started earning money when I was 10 and while my classmates were enjoying their vacation, i was busy apprenticing as a construction joustabout making $2 a day. The skills I learnt help me work my way through two college degrees. So there is great value in letting young prople develop good work habits at an early age.

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creinstein

There is an energy here in Rpublican Party for first time

Sad to say we have our own establishment.

But for the first time in forever we should turn red (except Governor)

Melody Warbington (rwm52)

Linked here.

Melody Warbington (rwm52)

That attack has been debunked here at redstate time and time again. And, gasp, there are even Mormon posters here at redstate who do not support Mitt.

Your continued attempts to paint non-Romney supporters as bigots is not a winning strategy to win votes.

joereagan

http://elections.nytimes.com/2012/primaries/states/florida/exit-polls

Romney won most groups. That is, among those who voted, the total number of which was down from 2008. The groups that he did best with:

- Gingrich’s positions are too conservative (15%)
- Moderate to Liberal (31%)
- Most imp. quality, can defeat Obama (45%)
- Abortion should be legal in all cases (13%)
- Cuban (8%)
- Oppose/Neutral towards the Tea Party (32%)
- Decided more than a month ago (41%)

Groups Gingrich won:

- Romney’s positions are not conservative enough (41%)
- Most imp. quality, has the right experience (21%)
- Most imp. quality, true conservative (14%)
- Abortion should be illegal in all cases (22%)
- Very Conservative (33%)
- Issue that matters most, abortion (7%)

Among groups Romney won, his narrowest margin was among Born Again/Evangelicals, which he won by one point, those who would like to see another candidate enter, which he won by 1 point, and Tea Party Supporters, which he won by 4 points.

In short, the election had low turnout, and the electorate skewed moderate/liberal. To the extent that Romney won votes from those conservatives who bothered to vote, they were swayed by the electability argument.

joereagan

Romney won by depressing conservative turnout, either by making Gingrich unacceptable and thereby leaving them no one to vote for, or convincing them that he (Romney) was inevitable, so there was no point in voting.

avgjo

worry about. You know, ‘We never know what he’ll say.’ ‘Newt has a tendency to torpedo himself.’ Blah, blah, blah, ad infinitum et ad nauseum.

That’s why Mitt is Mr. Inevitable and Mr. Electability, right? That’s why so many are saying we should support him, right?

Somehow, though, I doubt we’ll see the plethora of articles and commentary saying that Mitt is an unpredictable candidate, blah, blah, blah.

The only thing predictable about Mittens is his tendency to hold his wet finger to the wind and base what he says on that.

soothsayer14

This is pure gold for a Romney quote mashup in the general election.

Gonna need some pics of him in a private jet or a yacht to put it all together. Maybe he can go wind surfing.

gpclaw

The criticism being made of Romney, is that he is singling out one segment of the population, as being in need of “help”. The conservative answer would have been to say that the best way to help the middle class, is also the best way to help the poor, which is for the federal government to stop trying to micro-manage the economy, and eliminate the hordes of regulations that cost businesses trillions of dollars, and do nothing to create jobs or wealth.

We don’t need more promises describing what the government is going to do for us. We need promises describing what the government is going to stop doing.

joereagan

Decide for yourselves who’s the conservative, AND the better politician:

?I am fed up with politicians in either party dividing Americans against each other,? Gingrich said, speaking to hundreds of supporters packed into the Great Basin Brewing Co. here. ?I am running to be the president of all of the American people, and I am concerned about all of the American people. … My goal is to find steps for every American to have a job, every American to work, every American to be able to buy a house. I believe that America was founded on the dream that we are in fact created equal and we have a chance to go out and have a chance to pursue happiness.?

gpclaw

have to be compared to what another candidate has said, or done? Pointing out a flaw in candidate A, is not a show of support for candidate B.

soothsayer14

Take a deep breath and calm down. The LAST thing we need is another Cheney anywhere near the ticket!!!

soothsayer14

If we had a viable alternative I would say go for it.

Sadly, Newt can’t win because women won’t vote for him and Santorum turns off everyone outside of his small group of support.

A bad day for the GOP for sure.

Maybe we should start putting together our 2016 strategy. Hopefully Rand Paul will be ready to run by then.

swamphermit

The GOP/Republicans are not qualified to offer a presidential candidate…simple as that. ‘W’ may be the last one, and look at how the GOP/Republicans abandoned him. In 2008 the GOP/Republicans offered up a socialist against the Dems communist…some difference, huh. Now, after destroying Palin and Cain, we are stuck with a socialist Massachusetts liberal who hates the poor. Don’t give me the “Perry was the answer” crap either…at best, he was just another Texas Pretty Boy with both short-term memory and working memory problems.

Forget the Presidency, and focus on controlling the House and Senate. Indies, moderates and RINO’s have less influence in those races. Nine more months to go, and the Republican Party is stuck with a socialist Massachusetts liberal who hates the poor…great!

WillWong

than Romney has at mastering conservative principles! I at least have a fighting chance with Newt! SC shows that Newt had no problem with women’s vote so your premise that he can’t win the women’s vote is tenuous at best!

soothsayer14

after his best debate performance ever, in a state that was right next door to his home state, and not a microcosm of the USA by any measure.

South Carolina is one of those red states who would vote for a ham sandwich as long as it was Republican.

Across the USA, Gingrich has not, can not and will not get enough of the womens’ vote to win the White House.

Unless you haven’t noticed, women aren’t that fond of cheating liars. Especially Republican ones!

skorrent1

Is the comparison of candidates. We are supposed to be comparing how the various candidates would respond, in particular to the “gotcha” questions the MSM will continue to serve up during the general.

soothsayer14

between who we want to lose with.

Great job GOP. You have turned a gimme election into a nail biter and now an almost sure defeat before the general election even began.

That takes a special kind of ability.

WillWong

46 more states to go!

I dare to put my money that the House from 1995 to 1999 has a better record that Massachusetts from 2002 to 2006.

mike57

I voted for GHW Bush in 92, and I voted for Bob Dole in 96, and I voted for John McCain in 08, and it looks like now I’ll vote for Romney in 12.

Can’t we figure out some way to get a conservative on the ticket this time?

Greece may be a great place to visit, but I don’t want to end up like they are financially. With President Obama, it’s guaranteed. With President Romney, it appears to be very likely.

WillWong

Is this in response to the criticism he is getting for not caring about the very poor?is this his way to fix the broken safety net?

soothsayer14

nt

WillWong

SC is also the one state that had produced the Republican nominee since 1980!

trickamsterdam

It’s funny you use the non-native language speaking analogy, because I was just talking to some IRL about Romney a few days ago and used it.

Mine was the novelist Joseph Conrad though. A non native English speaker, he wrote in English…he wrote very well, but there was always a certain stiffness to it that you can’t quite put your finger on.

That’s what watching Romney campaign is like for me…his skills have improved greatly since 2008. He’s better at debating, messaging, strategy. But there’s always that stiffness.

The problem is he already seems (and in my opinion actually is) so inauthentic, that these gaffes are really going to stick to him.. And there’s no reason we shouldn’t expect more of them.

The problem is in the General he’s not going to have the Coulters and the J. Rubins or the beautiful boys at NRO to cover up for him.. He’s going to have the 75% of the MSM that will be openly rooting for Obama cutting him to pieces.

Ironically, I wouldn’t be surprised if he had the “conservative is crazy” strategy he used on Newt tied around his neck…he seems so alien, and we know they will do endless reports on anything strange that Mormons have ever believed over the decades (they will blame Christian Conservatives for these reports, saying “we have to cover it because Christian Conservatives have questions about Mormons”).

He’s also going to be greatly outspent by Pres Obama. I saw people on another thread saying they thought Obama’s fundraising was exaggerated…what a joke. Sitting Presidents will always out raise the challenger, and this President is also a cultural celebrity. I expect him to have at least twice the amount of money of Mitt…maybe even three or four times as much.

Especially now that Obama’s disapproval is going down and Romney’s is going up (it’s already at 49%,…higher than Obama’s).

By August (or even earlier) the smart money that doesn’t care about politics (e.g. Wall St) but just wants to buy influence w/ the eventual winner will all be going to Obama…the stink of loserdom will be all over Romney by then. It will be like a cloud that follows him around, like PigPen in the Peanuts cartoons.

What’s amazing is so many people think he’s electable, and are voting for him for that reason, when electable is the last thing he is. But they just won’t listen. Watching the GOP do this is like watching a friend descend into heroin addiction. Fortunately, these people have sapped my energy to the point where I don’t care very much.

What’s funny is there’s all this talk about the base not showing up, and that’s not even going to matter, because after Obama/Axelrod are done defining him as a Wall St parasite, he’s not even going to win independents.

What none of these Romney people ultimately get is that being more electable than Newt doesn’t make him electable. It just makes him more electable than Newt.

Bottom line: We need another candidate or we’re not winning this thing.

BROKERED.CONVENTION.NOW.OR.OBAMA.AGAIN.SOON.

greymom

William F. Buckley is probably turning over in his grave.

http://www.doctor-bob.biz rsklaroff

…this gaffe triggered The Donald to support The Newt!

I’d tossed-out two gambits @ RS yesterday [Perry re-enters or Romney designates Veep-Toomey], but received no “comers.” This experience is comparable [although the reaction was far more intense previously] to when I floated the potential to recruit DeMint [during the overnight hours post-"Oops!"].

Thus, I’m adhering to The Newt and, indeed, will attempt to discern if he needs pledged-delegates in PA [50 signatures required, checked the website, within a fortnight]. My conclusion is predicated on the admixture of reality/idealism, reinforced by numerous superb postings on multiple sites [including this one] provided by the usual-heroes, yesterday.

Sarah was quite subdued [again] last night on FNC; she [again] appeared a bit haggard, although defiant verbally regarding the “violence” that occurred during the Florida primary run-up. Thus, she is projecting the conclusion that she is digging-in for the long-haul.

It’s going to be rough/tumble, but I guess we all need to engage….

http://www.doctor-bob.biz rsklaroff

…because capitulation benefits Mitt.

PMSNBC has repeatedly discussed his “poor” comment; they accustomed to recycling pat-comments hourly, but they are outdoing themselves [constantly interlacing this meme with whatever else is transpiring except, surprisingly, the Politico segment @ 6:25 a.m., which focused on Boehner/Cantor, per http://www.politico.com/huddle/].

acat

Adios!

El Gato

acat

over every GOP candidate?

Just what social issues do you think he wins on?

Mew

tngal

would have been more outspoken with their support of the idea when gingrich said it ie prior to FL election. Instead we got 2 days of laughing and mocking on the telly.

jaybird248

Don’t forget that stupid photo of Mitt supposedly doing his own laundry. The one where the caption could be, “Which button calls Rosita to do this?”

jakeofalltrades

tnguy

…if you’re trying to discern the more conservative candidate. Look at Romney’s record as governor. There’s next to nothing for a conservative to hang his hat on. Then look at Gingrich’s record in congress. There’s some to dislike, but then there’s a lot of good conservative decisions and leadership. There is no honest way to argue otherwise.

What is difficult is determining whether to vote for either of them, or neither. I’m tired of sullying conservative principles by electing moderates who sell themselves as conservatives in the election. Then when they govern as big government moderates, democrats have plenty of ammunition to say, “See! Conservatives’ way of doing things doesn’t work!”

I’ll say it again. We should draw a line in the sand, and refuse to vote for anyone (for any office) who doesn’t generally share our principles. It’s apparent that the republican nominee will not.

cacharlie

Pandering to the “middle class” was what made me so mad at Obama right off the bat. Who the heck do these guys think they are? We so need people in public office who know they are as flawed as the rest of us.

Real Americans know everybody has to fend for himself and that the struggle isn’t pretty. I don’t like Gingrich much, but I am glad he’s not a slick willie. I am sick and tired of the phoney baloney “American Idol” show. Why does anybody want to watch lots of talent getting judged by a bunch of showboat egomaniacs?

I’d rather take my lumps from a leader with grandious ideas on how to do his own job instead of from one who tells me how to do mine!

bobguzzardi

Tim Carney has written a fascinating piece on Mitt Romney’s donor base.

http://campaign2012.washingtonexaminer.com/article/romney-shows-politics-makes-strange-bedfellows/353561?utm_source=WP%20TEMPLATE:%20Political%20Digest%20-%2002/02/2012&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=Washington%20Examiner:%20Political%20Digest

joereagan

Women whose votes would be influenced by marital fidelity are conservatives. SC is much more conservative than FL, and women there voted for Newt.

Women who are not conservatives are more likely to be influenced by how a candidate makes them “feel”, or how the candidate looks.

Many sections of FL are heavily image-conscious. Mitt looks better, therefore he is a better candidate to shallow people.

Liberal women will vote for Obama. Bill Clinton proved that not even NOW would abandon a man who sexually assaulted women as long as he “felt their pain” and was pro choice.

In other words, you’re grasping at straws.

annie54

I, too, am sticking with Newt. No one’s gaffe is as distasteful as what Romney said yesterday! The worst thing is that he believes it. The very poor are the “serfs”, apparently, in his mind and he intends for them to remain serfs.

Concerning, Sarah, I have sensed for several months now that she seems weak, physically. I hope her health is all right.

joereagan

Newt:

Rick Perry
Herman Cain
Sarah Palin (basically)
Todd Palin
Art Laffer
J.C. Watts
Michael Reagan
Thomas Sowell
Judson Phillips (Tea Party Nation)
Chuck Norris (!)
Donald Trump (reportedly pending)

Mitt:

George H.W. Bush
John Huntsman
Tim Pawlenty
John McCain
Meghan McCain
Bob Dole
Lisa Murkowski
Dennis Hastert
John Sununu
Ann Coulter (?)

It’s not complicated.

uncmike

While the media is still making hay out of Romney’s comments yesterday about the very poor &c., he’s now calling for indexing the minimum wage to inflation, an idea the Club for Growth PAC calls “disappointing.”

http://www.nationalreview.com/corner/289955/romney-backs-automatic-increases-minimum-wage-rate-katrina-trinko

annie54

will not have a perfect Conservative record. Women will eventually overlook his personal baggage and favor him over the flashy, wealthy, arrogant, spoiled frat boy who has no common sense and is as cold as death. Women love their pets and the dog-on-the-roof incident is piercing to them and reveals his character and nature.

It’s gotta be Newt. He just needs to perk up. He needs a Chef and Trainer to get him into better physical shape. His diet is probably horrible during the campaign and will get worse if he doesn’t change his patterns and habits.

remalimo

Chairman of the Rules “We make the rules as we go”. Does that mean that the Rep. powers that be believe the same? Where is the TEA?

scottishjew

Stop voting for whoever the establishment puts up. I vote for candidates that share a good part of my worldview. When the dont, I vote Libertarian. The Republican Party counts on you holding your nose. Maybe when they have lost enough elections will they get it. But there is no sense feeding that monster.

nepanyrush

And you even have people listed as endorsing Newt have not officially endorsed Newt (Trump and Sarah Palin) and ommited a large number of Mitts endorsements.

But the real affront of this list is that it advances a narrative that the election is only between Newt and Romney. Santorum is by far the more conservative candidate than either. Newt with his ethical baggage and constantly shifting policies according to his audience (for the individual mandate; against the individual mandate; support global warming, oppose global warming; for Rockefeller over Goldwater) would be a disaster as a candidate. He will lose to Obama in a landslide. Santorum twice won statewide election in solidly democratic Pennsyvlania and has been the only adult in the room, while Newt has been engaged in his “I will destroy the GOP if I cannot be the nominee” frame of mind.

Newt would be a disaster as the GOP standard bearer. A progressive, eogtistical person, whose policies look ridiculous in the light of day, and whose ethical lapses bring down the GOP, would absolutely lose in a landslide to Obama. There is zero question about that. Santorum is the much stronger candidate against Obama. The GOP would be a laughingstock with Gingrich as our standardbearer. Already I am getting criticized by relatives as a hypocrite on ethics because I dared to say publicly that I thought I could hold my nose long enough to vote for Gingrich.

Newt is a walking disaster, who was instrumental in allowing Clinton to win a second term because his own popularity was about 13% when he was done embarrasing us as Speaker. Doesn’t anyone remember how much us conservatives wanted to get rid of him and his inability to manage and his egotistical fits? The guy cannot manage his own life let alone the presidency.

iitywybad

Attn: yea37ey – if you’re conservative, I don’t want any part of it. If Mitt Romney has spent 17 million dollars in Florida explaining his positions and policies, I’d still be supporting him. Instead, he spent 17 million dollars telling bold face lies about Newt Gingrich and his records. I find it amazing that I actually supported this man – his wife Ann said in 1994 that “When we decided to jump into the race, we didn’t know a single Republican”. How could I have been fooled for so long?? I took 25 million dollars of negative campaigning to show me.

You should heed the words of Abraham Lincoln! He said

?Better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to speak out and remove all doubt.?

krish

By supporting RINO Romney, she lost all credibility among conservatives. Even Rubio lost some shine when he went after Newt because Newt campaign compared Romney to Crist – even though Romney used Crist campaign managers in Florida!

In my book Jindal, Scot Walker are in the top slot for 2016 since they have executive experience & the changes that they are trying in their states despite major oppositions should make all conservatives proud! In fact, Jindal supported Rick Perry, who has got a better conservative record on the current bunch! Mitch Daniels, Chris Christie are all establishment candidates – they get all the glory but basically RINOs

carolynr

nt

liveforadrenaline

In spite of all his shills saying that Romney is the only one who can defeat Obama, I thought he was the last one who can beat Obama.

Right now Obama is in “class warfare” mode.

Romney loses every time when fighting against this.

cbartlett

He keeps gagging on his foot every time he tries to go off-script. And everyone was worried about Newt getting out of hand? Looks like he has good company. I’m with Erick – give up on this circus – concentrate on getting lots of REAL conservatives in the House and Senate.

joereagan

You don’t seem to realize how obvious you made it that you’re a Romney supporter.

liveforadrenaline

The Republicans are dead if someone who has never done anything for conservatives gets the nod.

Hasn’t the tea party uprising and the rise of fiscal conservatives meant anything? Has everyone gone nuts and forgotten what Republicans are supposed to stand for?

Romney is really no Republican, if you look at the fact that past actions are an indicator of the future…

Juggernaut

to be the apologists for a lousy moderate making them moderates or uneducated or simply blinded by corrupt media tools while thinking they are also right.

The only good thing about losing to Obama is, we’ll control the House most likely and OCare will not be funded.

I see Romney being nuked by the class warfare bombs. Obama will not only nuke Romney but he’ll make the Romney rubble bounce with additional barrages of negative strikes.

cbartlett

nt

nepanyrush

I live in PA and have worked on the Santorum campaigns. He has attended my events and graciously stayed way past the time he was to speak. . I find him to be a stunningly authentic conservative. He twice beat incumbent democratic congressmen twice (once since district was redrawn), then won over a sitting US Senator — all in our state that has 1 million more democrrats than Republicans. He won over the Reagan democrats. He is by far the best conservative candidate and the only adult in the debates and the campaign.

Newt is an absolute disaster. I fear for the GOP should he be our standardbearer and, since moral values is very important for me, it would personally embarrasing to have Newt as our nominee. I am also absolutely certain with the huge gender gap (my conservative wife and two voting age daughters themselves said they could never vote for Newt) and his propensity to make ridiculous statements, he would lose in a landslide. Newt was the very last one in September that I thought would still be around because he is such a disaster. I lived through his term as Speaker. He was the reason Clinton went from a one-term president to winning a second term. He will do the same for Obama, only this time bring down the rest of the GOP.

Why were the Santorum endorsements not even listed. Why did you ignore, for example, the fact that the Family Research Council, Mark Levin, Sharron Angle, Michelle Malkin have all endorsed Santorum, among many others. Then, when you do make a list is is selective and even includes people that have not officially endorsed Gingrich.

Juggernaut

Romney lies like Obama, Rules for RINO Radicals!

http://www.wnd.com/2012/01/romneys-connection-to-saul-alinsky/
Mitt Romney may have been influenced by the late 20th century, Chicago-based radical.

Political commentator Dan Riehl wrote on BigGovernment.com that the ?toxic-to-conservatives? Alinsky effect has its roots in the former Massachusetts governor?s father, George Romney.

?The progressive Alinsky is infamous and actually toxic on the right,? Riehl wrote. ?George Romney?s endorsement of him, coupled with his acknowledged strong influence on son Mitt, will do little to assure suspicious conservatives concerned about Mitt Romney?s record as a progressive, including his introduction of Romneycare in Massachusetts.?

Political journalist and analyst Andrew Kaczynski wrote in a recent edition of the Buzzfeed that the elder Romney met with Alinsky to find a way to deal with the problem of the urban poor.

?In the wake of the devastating Detroit riots of the summer of 1967, Michigan Gov. George Romney, a liberal Republican, met the radical organizer Saul Alinsky to discuss the grievances of the urban black poor,? he explained.

Photos of the meeting can be found in the archives of the Library of Congress.

Kaczynski noted that a book on George Romney quotes the former Michigan governor telling his allies, ?I think you ought to listen to Alinsky.?

Political analyst and think-tank researcher Steve Baldwin believes that Mitt Romney was definitely impacted by his father?s association with Alinsky.

?Romney?s dad was a big leader of the RINO (Republican in name only) wing of the Republican Party and hated Goldwater,? Baldwin explained. ?George actually walked out of the 1964 GOP convention in protest of Goldwater?s views. He was an admirer of Alinsky.?

Riehl emphasized that the younger Romney deeply admired his father and his father?s beliefs. Riehl also indicated that any switch to conservatism for the younger Romney would be equivalent to a denial of his father.

carolynr

While society has always suffered from the seven deadly sins…Greed, Gluttony, Anger, Pride, Sloth, Lust and
Envy..Today it seems like those traits are on MEGA vitamins.

On another thread…we had some stupid conversation about earmarks…and some substantiation of it using Santorum!! It’s greed. Greed is alive and well in DC and growing at a pace that is unbelievable. It’s spending, spending, spending…and yet…we use another word…earmarks. We’re out of control.

Gluttony…how many people in America are over weight? Why all the problems with diabetes, etc. No…we don’t exercise any more, we don’t go to the gym…we don’t let our kids play. They sit with their I Phones and talk on facebook. 30 years later…they reap the reward of their undisciplined lives. Just think…Obama wants ALL pre-existing conditions covered. Well…hello diabetes!

Anger…Well…heck..I suffer from that. Where does Anger come from? Fear…how many people are afraid of the future. I guess you have answered that for me.

Pride, meaning egotistical. Well…let’s look at our front runners. Think that Obama wears a mirror for Valentine’s Day….I do. What about WILLARD? This guy, every time he speaks, knows better than anyone. He will never listen to advice…he’s too smart…don’t you know. Gingrich has the same problem to a lesser extent…but not much. Santorum…same thing…only he cloaks his in family values and charities. Paul and Perry…I have to say…they did offer us a taste of humility…although I do not agree with Paul on foreign affairs.

Sloth…Well rather than balance the budget…let’s not submit one at all. Rather than project a form of discipline…let’s just not engage in any kind…let the chips fall where they may. Health wise…more of the younger generation would rather sit on their behinds than work. Look at the welfare rolls. It’s more profitable to stay home than work. Meanwhile, we complain about the Mexicans. Hey…they are the ONLY ones I could get to install my garage door…and I called ten companies….and we’re in a recession. they traveled over 80 miles to get to my house.

Lust….Well…I have to be careful about my language. However, turn on daytime TV…is that spicy enough. Look at Christie’s language when criticizing another person n**nuts!!! Got satellite TV…you don’t have to go to the dirty bookstore any longer…just put it on PPV. Oh…and let’s not forget the subtle message the Planned Parenthood sends to our younger generation…sell them birth control pills…and I hear that it’s in Obamacare for ALL of us to pay for. Abortions…of course…anyone can have one for any reason at the taxpayer’s expense. We even have Physical Ed teachers showing kids (1) how to properly put on a condom…or (2) teaching the kids that there really isn’t a difference between male and female…and what the heck…you can be both. Check out the early TV shows…how many of them promote, by the character…being bi-sexual. Yes…Greece did fall twice…once long ago…and now again. Does any of this apply to their demise that I just posted? Rome…well…Italy has been downgraded AGAIN. Do…we listen…do we learn…heck no! We Don’t Even Teach History ANYMORE!

Last but not least…Envy. Oh to own more, to be more beautiful than I was born to be….to be the “perfect candidate” in looks…Can anyone say ROMNEY. To want more than is due us because we envy people and society will selfishly do anything to achieve its goal. Fannie and Freddie…they knew about this…they pushed so that people could all OWN HOUSES…even if they could not afford it. Banks were even lending at 125% so that people could buy…ready…”designer furniture.

So…we have one heck of a lot of work to do. Is it too late? Sometimes I think so…because of what I just posted.

BTW…Check out Romney’s Income article on Drudge…..Can you say…GREED…not the Capital Gains Stuff…The rest of it.

carolynr

The man is getting ready to spend more of your money. Did we not learn anything from GWB with his compassionate conservatism? This time…we are in really bad shape…$15.2 million deficit…and WILLARD and the Congress want to spend more.

Oh…in case you have not heard the latest on the Transportation Bill…you will notice it is a spending program…yes…more of our money…and guess what the carrot is…allowing exploration of gas and oil in Alaska. How many Republicans will vote for this “bi-partisen” bill? Problem is…it will never get the permits from the EPA. Oh…by some miracle it passed the Wildlife Program…the EPA…let’s see. I just wonder how many earmarks are in it?

joeydavis

Gingrich definitely can’t either. Santorum probably can. Palin probably can’t.

Santorum is the choice. We have to band together now and stop Romney before he buries us in November.

Ann_W

We’ll just gather around the all knowing one here, and do whatever you say.

carolynr

http://news.yahoo.com/un-panel-says-retool-world-economy-sustainability-164515165.html

This is why I so wish that Perry was in better physical condition when entering the race. This wouldn’t happen.

annie54

endorses Willard Romney instead of Gingrich, then that reveals his true feelings about the poor and their “safety net”. It would be much wiser for him to endorse the Conservative, Gingrich. We’ll have to wait until we hear what direction Trump is going.

joeydavis

The convention is pretty much going to be Romney delegates and not Romney delegates. The Romneys would be about 40% and he’d never get past that number UNLESS he got Ron Paul’s blessing.

Sooner or later you’d see the Newt delegates and Santorum delegates come together. Either they would support Santorum on a 2nd ballot or some other conservative on a 3rd ballot who would eventually overtake Romney.

Romney’s base would crumble by the 3rd ballot as well. When it became obvious that Romney could not get 50% many of the “hold your nose and vote Romney” delegation would find a more natural fit.

At that point you’d probably be looking for an establishment conservative Republican from a competitive state.

acat

Serious question, Romney can afford to retire campaign debt to buy some of the other candidates’ delegates.

Mew

gpclaw

Sometimes, less is more. Mitt has a tendency to try to over explain things, especially when it comes to an issue he is receiving criticism on. I’ve noticed this in the debates. The best example of this, was on the tax return issue during the debates.

colleenlass

I have found it very interesting that the only ones taking out of context Mitts words, are those who want Newt as the nominee.
I think that is called, Conservatives eating themselves.
Every single one..Erick, Rush etc, have made clear they do not want Romney and are now attacking the front runner as if they were Liberals.
Anyone, with any intelligence whatsoever, who heard what Romney said, understood completely what the man was saying.
I contacted Fox news this morning and gave them a list of all behind Newt who were now condemning Romney. For one reason only..Newt can not, or will not ever be the nominee. The religious right, ALL FROM THE SOUTH, would rather see us lose than to see a north easterner win the nomination. The religious right also has a major problem with Mormons.
This fact , along with many others, will be driven to the forefront within the next few days.
Shame on all of you for your prejudice and lack of love of country. Patriots you are not.
Please feel free to prove that you were not for Newt before yesterdays comment, to show no bias.
Thank you

gpclaw

everyone putting on the blinders when it comes to their preferred candidate. Every one of the remaining candidates has problems. Burying your (not you) head in the sand on an issue, and then trying to deflect criticism onto the candidate you (again, not you) don’t support, doesn’t make the warts go away.

In the end, it just turns into one big pissing contest. Everyone should be willing to admit the flaws of “their guy”, because those flaws are still going to exist if that person becomes President. Blind allegiance does no one any good.

mayflower

Very insightful comment.

Also, re Romney’s “victory” in Florida. I think it is a TERRIBLE MODEL for democracy that the person with the biggest check wins public office.

Is that really how we want to govern this country – no winning by IDEAS, character, ability – just poll driven drivel spewed onto a zillion negative ads and into the living rooms of the gullible?

That Citizens United decision was a nail in our coffin. Romney’s model for victory is a disgrace.

colleenlass

I think you will hear much more about Newts comment about the right wing machine.
Romneys words were taken out of context…LISTEN.
Newts were not.
Newt also will not answer about Freddie Mac…so the Dem’s will do it for him.
Newt does not have a chance.

gsatt

judges their decisions solely on fox news, rush, hannity, EE, ect. ect. are sheep as much as anyone else being falsely led. However the sheep following this bandwagon are drastically more informed : )

EE and anyone else is more than welcome to make these statements and pick apart what these candidates say to the microphone. These candidates know full well that anything they say can and will be used for and against them.. It is up to ourselves to decipher all of the biases and infomation being presented.

When I heard Romney’s interview I was screaming in my head because I understood what he was saying, but he said it in the most ROMNEY way possible so that it could be torn to shreds. All I wanted to hear him say was “help the middle and upper so that they can help the lower.” TTHATS ALL HE HAD TO SAY. END OF STORY. people help others after they have their own worries taken care of. People are generous. People want to help, and most of the time we help without even knowing I.E. starting a friggin business. Butttttttttt he sucks at making his point come accross in a simple manner.

p.s. great broadcast this morning Ericson

colleenlass

The one with the biggest check has won since Lincoln.
Newt is the one that is a disgrace.
When it does come out all he had to do with Freddie Mac, you will all bow your heads in shame.

I want someone on here…just one, to tell me when and if EVER Newt backed the Tea Party in any form.
He sure did jump on that wagon when he saw how desperate all were to find a not MITT.

Start listing his involvement everyone….I will be waiting.

colleenlass

Agreed…could have been said much better and I am sure he will get much better.
Romney is a very kind and a very generous man.
Best not to throw him under the bus when he is our best chance.
To me..Newts behavior is looking more and more childlike and without a doubt , he is a narcissist. It is also the reason why no one got along with him.
We all must hope for the best.
I always liked Erick too..but if you are a follower of his..he has gone through every candidate.
Newt was a LAST thought.
Please look through archives.
Romney is much more likable…that is important.

He also has a much better chance at getting the youth vote. He also will turn blue states red.

Vegas_Rick

If the Mittser’s type of campaign gives you a warm and fuzzy, and leads you to believe he is a”kind and generous man”, I can only assume you need to get off the Kool-aid.

demsaresatanic

as if Romney ever did anything for Tea Party. Romney gives Obamacare it’s daddy and you whine about a consulting contract with Freddie Mac.

colleenlass

Are you referring to Newt?
I would consider him a pathological liar.
How far back would you like to go?

surfcitysocal

“Sure, I?ll vote for him.” My husband says the same thing. But yet, you complain about RINOmney, as I like to call him. If the Republican establishment does end up successfully shoving him down our throats, and conservatives, once again, hold their noses and vote for him like they did for McCain, what’s the point? Is there no threshold at which conservatives will refuse to play along? If Republicans implode, it will be by their own doing. I’m not going to give them any help.

Vegas_Rick

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colleenlass

I am afraid none of the ads in Florida were lies.
Name me one.

All of you are complaining about negative campaigning, yet, you have no problem smearing another Republican.

Do you know how hypocritical all this sounds?
Newt has a nasty nasty disposition and he is a narcissist.
I do not need any of his history lessons…I did pay attention in 8th grade.
Now..so you do not make a fool out of yourself….which campaign ad was not right about Newt.

surfcitysocal

Considering Trump gave $50k to Rahm Emanuel for his mayoral bid, I’m not surprised he endorsed Romney.

colleenlass

Never said Romney did.
Newt however is really playing up to the Tea Party in a major way, yet he has no right.
I have heard him speak, several times…before the campaigns..he never had one positive thing to say about the Tea Party..not one.
That…is the honest to God truth!

He was completely disconnected from the movement.

colleenlass

P.S.

Obamacare is much closer to socialized medicine. They merely had to look at Canada.

brand

But I’d bet not a whole lot of Democrat voters even knew that some of their delegates were denied a vote. (They ended up with 105 at the convention. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Florida_Democratic_primary,_2008 )

It’s pretty common knowledge (at least to conservatives!) that conservatives are more informed about the issues that liberals are. ( http://cfif.org/v/index.php/commentary/54-state-of-affairs/642-survey-says-liberals-stingier-stupider-than-conservatives )

colleenlass

Nicely written . Best post on here and I admire you for your honest input.
I too am behind Romney and I am a conservative as well.

There are more like us than many may think and it is showing in the primaries.

colleenlass

Okay…the other day Soros..now Alinsky.
Stop reading WND..it is like reading the Enquirer as your primary news source. That is where you got your words from.

Tomorrow..BIGFOOT!

AceInTX

Your like a grade school kid that replies to someone pointing out an obvious problem with “I know what you are but what am I?

I’ve challenged sMitthead after sMitthead to make a positive case in favor of Romney as president and all I ever get in reply is a never ending mantra “Inevitable…Inevitable….Inevitable…Inevitable….Inevitable…Inevitable… Inevitable…Inevitable….Inevitable…Inevitable….Inevitable…Inevitable”

when challenged again I am treated to a saliva spewing negative rant against whomever the current “Not Romney” is….

You people are becoming as much a characture as an Ronulan I’ve ever met!!

WillWong

I will be the first to tell you that I am aware of Newt’s baggage! He cheated on his first two wifes, sat on a couch with Pelosi and talked about AGW, was for the individual mandate as advocated by the Heritage Foundation.

Nevertheless, Newt was also the first Republican Speaker of the House in 40 years. He is the only Speaker in my lifetime to balance the Federal budget. He also reformed welfare.

While some people castigated him for not being part of the early Tea Party movement, he has the foresight to understand the growing rage in the grassroot and was able to articulate the dreams and wishes of millions of ordinary folks like us as nobody can.

Simply put, many of us believe that Newt is put in his position fkr a time like this. He correctly diagnosed that this country needs some fundamental changes to return to her greatness.

While no one can be sure how President Newt or President Romney will govern, we can only make the best calculated guess based on their past record and their apparent skills.

I will not disparage Romney as there are plenty ofvthat on R-S. All i can say is that Newt’s past record is very admirable and his core conservatism is unquestionably intact. His ability to inspire passion in his followers is without question. His ability to communicate complex issues in simple layman’s terms is second to none.

No one believes taking down Obama and turning the country around is easy but with Newt, at least we have a fighting chance. Newt pledged his life, his wealth, and his honor. I believe him!

kegan05

Newt Gingrich a Conservative? I don?t think so!

In the 1990?s Newt Gingrich endorsed and wrote the Forward for a book by Alvin and Heidi Toffler entitled ?Creating a New Civilization.? The book called for our governing system to ?die and be replaced.?

Newt thinks our Constitution is Obsolete! That sounds like Comrade Obozo who also called for the ?fundamental transformation of America.?

No thank you. There are many, many video?s on YouTube of Newt Gingrich bloviating about being a ?Progressive and a ?Rockefeller Republican? as well as a ?Wilsonian Progressive.? Anyone thinking about supporting this character should read up on his background and what he truly believes. It is frightening.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=06XLIPtCXy8

This is just one link?.There are dozens.

Please, PLEASE do a little research before you get behind this Loon!

kegan05

conservative as Barack Obama!

Newt Gingrich a Conservative? I don?t think so!

In the 1990?s Newt Gingrich endorsed and wrote the Forward for a book by Alvin and Heidi Toffler entitled ?Creating a New Civilization.? The book called for our governing system to ?die and be replaced.?

Newt thinks our Constitution is Obsolete! That sounds like Comrade Obozo who also called for the ?fundamental transformation of America.?

No thank you! There are many, many video?s on YouTube of Newt Gingrich bloviating about being a ?Progressive and a ?Rockefeller Republican? as well as a ?Wilsonian Progressive.? Anyone thinking
about supporting this character should read up on his background and what he truly believes. It is frightening.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=06XLIPtCXy8

This is just one link?.There are dozens.

Please, PLEASE do your research on this guy. I did and I would vote for Harry Reid over Newt Gingrich! At least Reid is not smart enough to be dangerous. Newt is.

kleerstreem

I don’t have a problem with it because he’s right.. The other reason why Mitt’s statement won’t hurt him:

1. Most of the poor don’t vote

2. The ones that do vote for the Dem..,

Mitt telling America he’s wants to help those that work is nothing but a win for him. .

Bottom line, I like people that tell the truth and Mitt told the truth….Not a problem for the Republic of Texas Constitutional Conservative.

kegan05

I just don’t get it! Newt Gingrich is NOT a Conservative by any stretch of the imagination. He’s the man behind the curtain, a Charlatan!

He is a self-proclaimed “Wilsonian Progressive,” or a Rockefeller Republican, or a Progressive Republican. He has used all three of these descriptions on YouTube at one time or another.

Now he is saying he is a Reagan Conservative. He was at odds with Reagan over Foreign Policy and is on record as saying so.

Newt was for Gun Control Legislation. Newt was for Federal Mandates. He was all gung-ho about Global Warming and Cap and Trade.

Has anyone even bothered to do some research on this guy by watching some of his many video’s on YouTube?

He thinks our Constitution is “obsolete!” Really?

I can’t believe people like Laura Ingraham and Sean Hannity who profess to be “Reagan Conservatives” have not done their homework on Newt Gingrich. Unbelievable.

kegan05

Taking someones words out of context is not very bright. It can backfire when the entire video is revealed. It happened to Newt in Florida and is one of the reasons he LOST!

kegan05

Mitt will not lie and that is very refreshing. Newt will tell people anything he thinks they want to hear. Pfft! Loser!

kegan05

But he wants to be on the winning side. That is why he endorsed Mitt Romney!

He would lose face if he endorsed a LOSER.

kegan05

In the wake of the devastating Detroit riots of the summer of 1967, Michigan Gov. George Romney ? a liberal Republican ? met the radical organizer Saul Alinsky to discuss the grievances of the urban black poor.
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This was a meeting between the Governor of Michigan and a COMMUNITY ORGANIZER, Saul Alinsky, who had influence with poor blacks. Governor Romney was not a buddy of Alinsky or a cohort or a kindred spirit. They got together to discuss a serious problem that plagued the black neighborhoods.

Hillary Clinton wrote her college thesis on Saul Alinsky and worked for him in Chicago as her first job. She was an ardent admirer of the Marxist Community Organizer.

What does this have to do with Mitt Romney? He has chided Comrade Obama for being a Saul Alinsky-loving Liberal.

Trying to tie Mitt Romney with Saul Alinsky is pure fantasy on your part. Nice try, tho.

colleenlass

I think REDSTATE along with many others…do not get it….there are many who DO NOT WANT NEWT.
He is a LOON.

Why anyone thinks THEY are the ones who know what a TRUE CONSERVATIVE is…I have no idea!

It sure is not Newt.
With you friend!

kegan05

Thanks, Colleen.

I don’t think anyone has delved into Newt’s dubious background and are just taking his word for everything. Newt has been busy rewriting history for the past 10 years, and trying to erase a lot of his shenanigans.

If they would do a little digging they would find a lot of vipers and scary things in his past.

This country let one Idiot into the White House without vetting him and we have suffered horribly for it. We can’t make that mistake again.

colleenlass

Excuse me.
Exactly what question are you referring to that was from Rick.

You mention ‘school girl’..may I advise you to get rid of the ‘cutsie’ names you have for candidates you do not like.

This takes away any seriousness of your conversation.

Now..what is it you would like to know, and write like a grown up.

kegan05

Take words out of context much?

It always backfires when the full sentence is exposed.

Mitt will be ready with the video with the full text of his statements.

mhorner

Why do so many people want to vote for a fat, grumpy old white guy with questionable character and integrity? Do any of these voters remember Bob Dole and John McCain? Please envision fat, scowly Newt standing next to the smooth talking Obama. Further, Newt has NEVER run a State or a large company. What we do know of his leadership style is that it is highly ineffective. Is that what you people want? I would suggest that Romney HAS to enlist Marco Rubio as his VP to insure the win.

colleenlass

That is the problem…you all are hanging onto a one liner’s.
Not who he is..not who he has been involved with.

The TEA PARY was SO against Newt. He barely showed up on the radar on EVERY Tea Party site. FACT.

colleenlass

I find it very refreshing that Mitt does not lie for gain as well!

With you and Kleerstream!

Have heard Mitt speak for quite some time now..here and in Mass.
Mitt is quite the gentlemen and he is a kind and good human being as well.
Add that onto his intelligence and success and he is who I would like to see as my president!

colleenlass

You mean like all of a sudden Newt being a Tea Party supporter?
I will take the wet finger to the wind thank you!

avgjo

the guy that gave Obama cover for Obamacare. Who said he was not interested in going back to Reagan. Who changed his position on abortion LITERALLY in the middle of a debate in ’94. I’ll take the consistently pro-life guy who actually has a record of conservative ACHIEVEMENT over the political hack named Mitt Romney.

AceInTX

without chanting “inevitable” and he can win independents ad nausium, and without accusing those who oppose him on philosophical grounds of anti-Mormonism?

I’m all ears.

colleenlass

WOW..I think it..you actually came out and wrote it!
You are absolutely right.
Obama would blow him away. How can people really think that with one line zingers, Newt would have a chance of winning debates with Obama?

Romney was right….Reagan wrote only one little note about him in his entire diary.
He would not be able to pull off how important he was to Reagan with those kind of facts. Obama would make that known straight off.
So whats left…a KNOW IT ALL, grumpy old man.
NO WAY.
When Obama is hitting the college circuit, then getting them out to vote, can you picture Newt with the youth??????
Sorry..not going to happen.
I agree…Rubio would be the perfect VP. But seeing what I read on all these sites, they would turn on him and call HIM a RINO as well.
Way way to much prejudice in the Tea Party now…I hope it changes…fast.

littletboca

Obama and Romney are both on the same page and their agenda is the Middle Class – frankly the only thing much different in these two men is the color of skin.

paco12348

I’m not for Romney but when Republicans repeat what he said (and they know it wasn’t meant they way it’s being repeated) then they are no better than Wasserman-Schultz and the other Dem attack dogs. I’m disgusted with Republican and Democrat talking heads. We need another 2 Political |Parties that are true to the Constitution and do not commit themselves to Political power, lies and deceit.

gsatt

But that little comcept of ROMNEYCARE gives me this puking sensation. He was proud of that crap until he realized he was going to run for president as a republican. And who had passed the foundation to national healthcare with thae same people that created romnneycare???? Oh and how he must have swallowed himself.

Money talks, and its all I hear from that guy. He’s IS your HOPE AND CHANGE from the right.

colleenlass

If you do not understand what the difference is between Social healthcare , like it is in Europe and Canada and what Romney did in Mass, you do not read much do you?

They do not pay for that 8% through being taxed.
They kept their healtcare plans.

Read up a bit..look at the facts…then write about it..okay?
What Obama is imposing on the peoples in the United States…is European socialism.
Learn the difference..please.
Also understand that this is something the people of Mass wanted (majority of them) so it becomes a state right.
This falls under the constitution…read it and understand it.

The man explains it..again and again and again. Listen for once!!!!!

avgjo

However, in the interests of education, I leave you with this…

http://www.cato.org/pubs/policy_report/v30n1/cpr30n1-1.html

colleenlass

So now you are quoting the nut from NBC.
Getting a little desperate aren’t you?
Money has helped candidates win since after Lincoln…GET OVER IT!
Actually..his wifes connections helped a lot. Things do not change much friend.

Newt sold his soul when becoming an advisor to Freddie Mac.
I also wonder what he was paid to sit on the couch with Pelosi…

Newt does not even come close to being the father, husband, gentlemen of Romney.
It is Newt who will be left behind…watch….

Our chances of beating Obama are slim..I hate writing that..but it is true.
Shall we go with our best chance? OR NOT!

funwithknives

state/federal welfare are going to stream to the polls , please do not deceive yourself. How else to *be heard*?
W H Y would you not support “”…That which supports You?”
Then count in all who “empathize” with the poor. N O W you’re talkin’ some real numbers.
This is a huge reason to get behind whomever the nominee is. Iffin’ we don’t keep the House ,and get the Senate, it Will Be GAME OVER. Since this would seem to be likely { controlling both Houses} whoever wins would most possibly see the ligh & direction, of “where the wind was.” Mallibility comes into play, and there we are.
Then again, Utopia is so very.. far… a w a y….

colleenlass

I am afraid you have the lions share of ignorance my friend and with that..I bid you ado….

circlegranch

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pollywog

Sadly, or maybe it’s just ignorance, the Great American Blight has remained hidden from Romney, even after he traveled to all “necessary” points of the union. The middle class is shrinking at such an astronomical rate and the poor class is growing without all of the catchers mitts that he is assuming are there to soften their economic blows. He would be smart to address his programs and plans to the poor and then work his way up the ladder to those in fear of being poor, instead of assuming the migration across economic lines has frozen. His words were an insult to a lot of suffering voters.

lineholder

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demsaresatanic

they snipe at Newt every time they find a sound-bite that does not sound 100% Reagan, they ignore Newt’s solid conservative voting record in Congress, and they don’t dare mention Romney’s 100% Rino record as Gov.

Romneybots are like Romney himself, arrogant, petty, and disingenuous. They keep slinging the same mud over and over hoping some of it will stick, no different than what democrats do.

Hang in there, they tried the same thing in 08 and it backfired on them.

lineholder

For the primary, he needs Conservatives on his side. So he’s been trying to speak “Conservative language”, even though that isn’t really who he is deep down on the inside. On the inside, he’s a moderate who likes the same kind of “progressive” ideas that Liberals like.

It slips through the cracks every now and then. He doesn’t intend for it to, but it does.

AceInTX

without attacking his Republican opponents or accusing me of anti-Mormonism.

a nd you’re the newest example to prove my point

AceInTX

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demsaresatanic

now they pretend to be Teapartiers, as if Romney ever did anything for the Teaparty.

jakeofalltrades

Newt gave money to support the moderate in NY-23… and that’s about it AFAIK.

demsaresatanic

Romney is in the Romney party.

demsaresatanic

thanks.

Scope

gave money to support candidates, he didn’t write checks from his own bank account as far as I know. Those checks sure have bought him some candidate pay-back.

Scope

that he doesn’t disagree with any of Romney’s policies. He said he didn’t believe for a minute that Romney doesn’t care about the poor.

jakeofalltrades

I was just settling in to my new candidate, and you had to play the Ron Paul card. That’s a low blow.

Scope

on a greasy bacon cheesburger, and lard fried french fries. That’s where we are headed with all of the left-overs, artery cloggers.

kegan05

the more I research him the better I like him. I can’t find any really negative stuff, unless it on a Lefty website. I think he will be a great president who will not be making shady, crony-capitalism deals for campaign donations. What a cheap trick!

He has more money that he can ever spend and won’t be open to any kind of greedy corruption….he just doesn’t seem like the type anyway.

Looking forward to following his progress…

colleenlass

You believe George Soros….do you?

colleenlass

I have to admit, I wanted him to win the last election. I was all for him for this one till Rick Perry came on the scene. Such a patriot and someone who could have really made a difference in DC.
I live in NY (not city) but often go to Boston as I really like it there to Christmas shop or just to spend time.
I have seen Mitt when he is campaigning…and not when on the trail.
He is a lovely man..a good man, full of love for his wife (I have seen him look at her when not for media and the love is overwhelming) and wonderful with his children.
He also of course is a very smart man. His love of country is for real. I have heard him sing before . He is never hesitant to put his hand over his heart when speaking of this country.
I think he will make a great president and someone who we will be proud of. It is upsetting reading posts, where the so called patriots are behaving like the left. The demise of the Tea Party, it makes me very sad.
Regards

rankandfileconservative

Romney never lies for personal gain? As has been said previously, drop the pious baloney. While Newt was spending time on the House floor defending and upholding the basic ideas behind the Reagan revolution, Mitt was unabashedly anti-Reagan and voting in Democrat primaries. Yet, when his campaign was down after SC, Romney spent many millions of $$ trying to claim that it was in fact Newt who was anti-Reagan– the opposite of the truth.

A tiger’s stripes always show when he’s cornered, and over the past few weeks Mitt has shown us how much of a liar he is willing to be in order to win. Also, his support for both big government programs for the very poor and an automatically increasing minimum wage can’t be wiped away. The Tea Party is alive and well and unfooled by the establishment machine despite all of your best attempts at whitewashing the Romney’s record.

deVere

He really does enjoy it.

http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0212/72433.html

He’s a middle-class guy, Mitt. You should have been “concerned”.

colleenlass

Oh..in case you are not aware.
Newt has been firing people like crazy, many more than Romney has.
Such a shame that Newt blames others for his failures, this is what narcissists do.
But… in his defense, he can not help it, it is a part of the disease.

colleenlass

If someone’s opinion’s differ from yours…it is a love fest?
Since you use the language of Newt…BALONEY, I would say you have quite a love fest going on yourself.
Reagan barely recognized Newt. It is a fact of the small mention of him in his diaries as NO ONE liked him when he was speaker.
Micheal Reagan, who is not very smart, has been living off his fathers legacy for years, never a great man in his own right. In reality, Reagan never really had a lot of time to spend with his children. He is to me however a hero.
Being one who has tried to get Tea Parties going, such as marches, rallies , you name it, going again…. I can tell you, they have lost much power. The win last November was due to all sects of the Republican party..ALL. For the first time in a very long time we actually had the Independent vote.

You can slam Romney all you want..but the majority of the CONSERVATIVES will go with Mitt. There are many many conservatives, with equal love of country who did not belong to the Tea Party.
Do you know when we will come alive again?
If Obama wins.
Again…we will be too late. This time we will be really late as we will not be able to undo what will be done in the next 4 years.
So..instead of slamming each other….shall we make sure Obama is defeated???????

rankandfileconservative

Don’t blow any of your gaskets…can’t handle the truth? Here’s a hint for you and your buddies, who are clearly trying to make a statement on this site: calling out someone for their serious misrepresentations of the truth is not a slam, it just feels like one when you’re already in the tank for the perp.

Romney has not won a majority of conservatives to date, but why let facts get in the way of a good story? Also, why do you feel the need to insult Michael Reagan? Personally attacking the messenger when one doesn’t like the message is a pretty well known leftist tactic; however, Romney has used it to great effect for the past several weeks, so I guess your use of the same shouldn’t be a surprise.

From your post, it seems that you cannot respect the fact that there are a large number of conservatives who think Romney is unable to make the most effective case against Obama and the left. You will just have to accept the fact that many of us strongly disagree with your position. Some of us would rather vote for a thoughtful candidate who can clearly articulate conservative positions than someone who seems to only be able to get ahead with mendacious personal attacks.

colleenlass

Hoss was my favorite…we must be in the same age group.
I only mentioned Micheal..I guess because I do not see Newt as a Reagan Conservative….at all. So his endorsement meant nothing.

I will however..whoever wins the nomination…WILL work very hard from that day forward for them.
I do respect peoples thoughts…but it s a 100 to 1 against who I feel would make the right person to go against Obama.

Actually, Mitt is much more of a gentlemen and as you put it ‘thoughtful’ candidate. He however did have more money behind him with the super pacs.
Newts not calling to congratulate is SO Newt. I remember him well when he was speaker..I say..no thank you.
I do appreciate your response, as you were civil and I imagine a really nice person.
It is okay to disagree. This is America…and we can.. thank God.

Nice to meet you.

rankandfileconservative

Thanks for the dialogue too. Sorry that you harbor those feelings against Newt; he’s not perfect, however none of these candidates are IMO. I can understand why he might not want to call a candidate to congratulate Romney after what he had to endure in false, negative advertising–if you placed yourself in that position, you might feel the same as well.

Agreed, choices are good. It’s very unfortunate that the media, both the left and the right, are trying as hard as they can to clear the field for one candidate though. Even the National Review, a beacon for conservatives for the past few decades, has taken a significant role in discrediting conservatives this election cycle.

The Romney team doesn’t seem to get this, but, if they were smart, they’d realize that this election, both primary and general, will be extremely tough for them if they continue to alienate the Goldwater/Reagan/Tea Party base. It may already be too late in some cases.

The time for the Republican leadership taking the conservative vote for granted is over…

Flagstaff

“We go to election with the candidates we have, not the ones we might want.”

I agree with the sentiments of most everybody who writes here, even when those sentiments are mutually contradictory.

There is a touch of objectivism to this and any debate about what will be. No matter what we think, it will be.

Flagstaff

May it be true.

Juggernaut

I don’t read wnd as a primary souce but its worth noting since the 75% seek alternatives to Romney, good luck hunting bigfoot.

gsatt

And you obviously heard it loud and clear. Something Romney can’t always do. We have all been told that romney is our best chance. Why that is, is based on nothing of facts. Its based on that word “electability”. Whatever the heck that word means I agree he has it. And it looks as though I’m going to be voting for the guy.

And the whole family thing, I don’t care about. AT ALL. means nothing to me. Do you know how many people are unfaithful? more than the number that have been caught.

The pilot in the front seat of my flight can be the worst father on earth, not my problem.. As long as he’s capable of flying that chunk of metal from point A to B I’m content.

And ya we go with the best chance obviously, the game is played to win. Im stubborn, not stupid.

Melody Warbington (rwm52)

I need a conservative POTUS in the White House, not a moderate who leans whichever way the wind blows like Romney.

Melody Warbington (rwm52)

then by all accounts, doesn’t Paul fits that bill just as well, if not better than Romney.

colleenlass

Firstly, I haven’t much respect for those who use all the cutsie terms. Be ladies and gentlemen and call people by their correct name.

Many of you are so very wrong if you think that people are not excited about Mitt…because they are.

As far as..he blows with the wind….how many of you have changed from one candidate to another since the primaries began…pretty much all of you.
Newt was not even on the radar. Santorum..a decent man, but very few even consider him, although they will because they have gone through everyone else! How about the Conservatives that rose to the top and then were tossed out?
Newt has gone from one thing to another as well.

This includes even RedState itself.
Yes..Mitt ran in a Liberal state. He changed some of his views even while Gov of that Liberal state.
I do not live in Ma, but I do own a vacation home there on the Cape, have had it for many years.

I like Mitt, have seen him, heard him many times, and those who know him, have the highest regard for him.
My favorites on this site are those who judge and then quote from the Bible. Could anyone be more hypocritical?
Yes he has changed views…and so have all of you…many times.

No one has held a gun to anyone’s head that has voted for Mitt in any of the primaries so far and it is insulting for any of you to think that YOU are smarter than they are!

I can assure you there is much excitement by many that Romney may be president.
Are you better patriots than I am?
That is very unlikely.

The Ron Paul supporter…well , I like the man, I really do. He should be respected by everyone. But president….I don’t think he has a chance and that is backed up by where he finishes in the races. I feel quite confident that he is paving the way for his son, and there is NOTHING wrong with that.
This is America.

Mitt Romney is my choice.I am very proud of that choice and I feel he will win the nomination.

Let us be respectful of each other…we all want the same thing…OBAMA OUT OF OUR HOUSE.

Melody Warbington (rwm52)

I didn’t call Romney a name. I described his behavior. And in case you ddn’t notice, I’m pretty much out in the open as far as my comments since I use my real name.

If folks are so excited about Romney, why was voting down in every single county in which he won in Florida? Not a few counties. Every single one. Erick mentioned this in a diary.

Here?s why I?d be nervous if I were a GOP operative. Turn out, at first projected to exceed 2008?s primary level, turned out to be less than 2008. 57% of Republican voters said they want a different choice. That does not spell excitement or unity headed into November. Republicans can only wave the Supreme Court in front of the base for so long.

And then there is one bit of data worth noticing. If you add Newt Gingrich and Rick Santorum together, they come in a point behind Mitt Romney. But add in the bitter candidate clingers who just can?t let go (I kid because I love) of Michelle Bachmann, Rick Perry, Jon Huntsman, and Herman Cain and suddenly, suddenly, the non-Romney?s win without even adding in Ron Paul.

From his diary here.

Overall voting was down in Nevada as well.

As for changing nominees, I’ve only changed when forced to, i.e., when the candidate(s) I was supporting withdrew from the race. Not due to a lack of principles.

Nice slam on those who quote the Bible although I didn’t do that in my previous comments to you although I use one in my signature. It’s my right to do so even if you don’t like it. As for changing views – just not so. I’ve been a conservative and a pro life advocate all my life, but I’m not the one running on a record. Mitt is, and his record isn’t conservative.

Don’t put words in my mouth. I said nothing about being smarter or more of a patriot than you or anyone else or about voters being forced to vote for Mitt. Prorjecting much?

The fact that you think that a man like Ron Paul who blames the U.S. for 9/11, had his name at the head of racist newsletters, and has a dangerous foreign policy should be respected says a lot. There’s a host of diaries here at redstate about these things and much more about Paul.

I’m just as proud to be supporting Not Romney. I hope and yes, I pray he doesn’t win the nomination. If he does, I’ll vote for him in the general because he’s Not Obama.

I’m glad you want Obama out of office, and that we’re on the same side. However, I said nothing disrespectful in either of my previous comments, and I stand by them. Romney, however, could stand to use a little respect for the other candidates and stop the smear campaigns as well as for the voters by not pretending he’s a conservative. When the mask slips, he talks like a moderate. He governed like a moderate (Romneycare, judicial appointments). Ergo, he’s a moderate.

colleenlass

I will only make one comment to your lengthy reply.
There was not any negative campaigning in Nevada.
Yet…twice as many came out to vote for Romney than they did for Newt…now didn’t they?
Oh yes..large population of Mormons, that is why….how foolish am I?
I think they are about 7% of the population. YES….that must be why he won instead of Newt.

That is great that you use your own name. So do I.
My name is Colleen. Colleen means girl in Gaelic. A girl is a Lass.

Regards

colleenlass

I was a Rick Perry supporter, right up to the very end.
Mitt was my second choice.
Actually Mitt was my first choice till I got to know Perry. He was the best in my eyes, what a true American he is, but, all ran from him…way too soon.
I fell like a rock after Iowa.

Let’s just hope we win…we have got to win. I think we all can agree on that.

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