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Horserace for February 2, 2012

There are storm clouds on the horizon. A day after Mitt Romney’s massive win in Florida he opened his mouth and promptly told conservatives he was incapable of articulating conservatism.

Then Newt Gingrich found a bright line rule in the Republican rules that clearly and precisely states that all delegates awarded before April 1, 2012, must be proportional. There goes giving Romney all fifty delegates from Florida despite what Florida’s GOP Chairman says.

Then National Review and other Romney supporters , taking a bit of comfort in his secure win in Florida, decided they could finally express some buyers remorse, or at least now stop zealously defending him and criticize him some.

Then people really examined the exit polls in Florida. What they found was that turnout fell from 2008. But in counties where turn out was up, Newt Gingrich won. Where turnout from 2008 was down, Romney won. This pattern followed South Carolina. The base remains unexcited about Romney and his comments yesterday about the poor and the social safety net keep the base from getting excited.

What should have been Mitt Romney heading into February securing his nomination now becomes an effort to stave off a rear guard action to pick him off. Gingrich and Santorum now have the ammunition they need to keep the Great Coalescing from happening.

What should have been a clear path to the nomination is suddenly in jeopardy.

We’ll get into it all in the Horserace.

Newt Gingrich

You would not know it, but Gingrich has put his campaign through a bit of a shake up in order to instill more discipline within the campaign and hopefully within himself. His erratic messaging and attacks hurt him in Florida. He knows it.

The campaign knows that Newt Gingrich’s debate strategy — naps and quiet time — I AM NOT JOKING — will no longer serve him. The Romney camp sought to destroy the myth of Gingrich the Great Debater and largely succeeded in Florida.

Gingrich has much to do. He needs more focus, more message discipline, and more delegates. The RNC rule on proportional delegates will help him. Like Florida, Arizona had intended a winner take all primary, but that is not to be. And lucky for Gingrich, Mitt Romney’s comments on the poor and the conservative outcry over them will give Gingrich an issue with which he can focus on jobs, the economy, and Mitt Romney. If Gingrich is serious about staying in till the convention, he could deny Romney a first ballot win and spare the base from the man they don’t like, even if Newt himself cannot get the nomination.

He is more of a long shot today than he was a day before Florida, but he can still be the nominee.

Ron Paul

The spectacular disaster of the Ron Paul campaign has been one of the least told stories on the campaign trail. The media is officially ignoring Ron Paul because they don’t want to deal with the crazy that will come out if they even deal with Ron Paul objectively.

He came in third in Iowa. He came in second in New Hampshire. He came in fourth in South Carolina. He came in fourth in Florida. Yes, he may currently lead Santorum in delegates, but consistently coming in behind the winner does not help him. He has not won a single state. He is the only candidate left standing to not win a state.

He hopes that Nevada will be that state. Caucuses are notoriously hard to poll, but the polls show he won’t come in first. It is Ron Paul’s best shot at a first place win. If he does not come in first in Nevada, his only other hope is to go to a brokered convention. That becomes harder and harder for him as we get to winner take all states if he can’t win at least one now.

Ron Paul will not be the nominee. But might Gingrich and Santorum ally with Paul in Virginia and throw their support to him? It would bolster Paul there, but more importantly it would hurt Mitt Romney badly. Santorum and Gingrich are not on the ballot there.

Mitt Romney

Had Mitt Romney not gone on Soledad O’Brien’s show and said what he said, he would be fully secure in his nomination. He has put himself in jeopardy. He gives Santorum and Gingrich wiggle room to keep playing.

I have to agree with Jamie Dupree of Cox Media Group’s Washington Bureau. Mitt Romney is too message disciplined for something like this to happen accidentally. There had to be campaign preparation for this. There had to be campaign strategy behind the statement. My only guess is that, like Gingrich, Romney is exhausted from three weeks of grueling campaigns. He didn’t get the talking points out right. He flubbed.

But to go on CNN and say what he said and then reiterate it later with a surrogate saying Romney won’t change policies for the poor had to be a planned strategy. The messaging had to have gotten screwed up though. That, or the Romney camp really is out of touch.

This is still Mitt Romney’s race to win or lose. The next few states favor him. But he just gave powerful ammunition to Gingrich and Santorum. How those campaigns use it will tell us more about them than Romney.

Rick Santorum

The Romney camp is actually nervous about Santorum. They believe he can do well in the caucus states that, even though they are non-binding, will put wind into Santorum’s sail. They are nervous.

Santorum has not shown he can compete past Iowa. He does not have the money. He does not have the resources. He does not have a large enough team. But he has passion. And I maintain that Santorum staying in the race hurts Romney more than Gingrich because ultimately Santorum’s voters will drift slowly to Romney.

That won’t happen with Santorum in the race. And if, like in South Carolina, Santorum is able to pick up steam and money, Romney will have both Gingrich and Santorum firing at him. That’s bad news for Romney.

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COMMENTS

  • scottishjew

    was focusing on trivial, non-issues that in got burned on rebuttal by Mitt Platitudes.

    For all the talk of Baine and the Olympics, Romney has a record in Massachusetts. And that record is not flattering. Newt should be hitting on that…Romneycare, taxes, fees, how he didnt support the boy scouts.

    Also, Romney just said that he supports automatic COLA increases for the minimum wage. That is incredible ammunition.

  • mikeymike143

    way to go!!!!

  • Common_Cents

    Otherwise he’d probably drop out. Bad news for Gingrich that Santorum is in.

    For those that quote polling saying Santorum support would go to Romney? Romney campaign strongly disagrees with you. Romney is focused 100% of getting Gingrich out, not Santorum.

    A Gingrich/Romney two man race takes on a whole new dynamic, it’s not just simple arithmetic in splitting up Santorum support. A two man race brings final stark choices for all those on the sidelines for support and money. Romney has largely got all the support he’s gonna get from the fence sitters. Fence sitters are anti Romneys.

    The FL situation should be cut and dry proportional. That is the freakin rule. To say they are punishing FL twice? That is HOGWASH. Punishing FL once for moving up primary cutting delegates is one thing. Adhering to proportional rule does NOT punish FL. FL still retains the 50 delegates and does not lose a single one more if they are proportional. Not adhering to the rule only punishes FL voters. The RNC complaint committee better get this one right and decide FL is proportional.

  • angryguy77

    go for mitt? I disagree with that premise, I believe his supporters believe he’s the most conservative, where Mitt is not even close. Newt is much closer on the conservative scale imo than mitt.

  • scottishjew

    http://www.albertleatribune.com/2012/02/02/romney-favors-hikes-in-minimum-wage/

  • Ender

    with current numbers of NV, MI, and AZ.

    AZ-2012 Primary: 48% Romney, 24% Gingrich, 13% Santorum, 6% Paul (Rasmussen 2/1)
    MI-2012 Primary: 38% Romney, 23% Gingrich, 17% Santorum, 14% Paul (Rasmussen 2/1)
    NV-2012 Caucus: 45% Romney, 25% Gingrich, 11% Santorum, 9% Paul (LVRJ/UNLV 1/27-31)

    I think if Mitt shuts his mouth and focuses on campaigning for those states, he will stave off any challenge and get good momentum heading into Super Tuesday.

  • Repair_Man_Jack

    http://www.politico.com/blogs/burns-haberman/2012/02/newt-i-care-about-the-poor-unlike-gov-romney-113288.html

    Newt cares about the poor. I’m touched.

  • clowngirl

    Santorum just cut an ad though attacking only Newt – on topics (like the mandate) where Romney is actually more guilty.

    He does effectively attack Romney in debates but I wonder why he isn’t doing so in paid ads.

    Ron Paul never seems to attack Romney at all in ads or debates.

    I don’t really understand why.

  • http://www.nighttwister.com NightTwister

    Newt is up by 19% over Mitt (37% to 18%)

  • pdawk

    I hadn’t seen any polls on CO in a while.

  • waxmanlaw

    The rule that delegates must be proportional is there but you forgot to mention that South Carolina is specificallly exempted and they are the only state to have such an exemption.

    If FL is reverted to proportional, what method do they use?? Straight or only those with over 20% of the vote??? Based on CD’s and statewide????

  • waxmanlaw

    Virginia will need to allow for Newt and Rick on election day. Travesty. Vote for Paul as the not Romney is a joke. Somebody in VA needs to stand up and make sure they have a real election on March 6th.

  • thosjefferson

    on the horizon are about to rain on the tatters of the Gingrich campaign. But I’m as eager as Erick is to see Gingrich “focus” on the bottom 1%. That should be fascinating.

    Besides, I thought it was Barak Obama’s job to focus on the 1% at the bottom, while he attacks the 1% at the top. Newt’s already attacked the top 1%. If Erick’s right, he’s about to come out and “focus” on the bottom 1%, just like Obama.

    With this new emphasis by Newt, he’ll become the perfect proxy for Obama. And when Romney continues to defeat him 2 to 1, we have a nice precursor for the general election.

  • red_oakster

    All the pre-April 1st contests are proportional representation. That’s bad news for Romney if three other candidates stay in the race.

    Romney is the only candidate who can assemble a majority of delegates before the convention. The others already are playing for other prizes, since there are virtually no circumstances which would allow them to swing the convention their way. That tells me that both Gingrich and Santorum will stay in as long as they have the money to do so. Here’s hoping that they can hold Willard well below 50% so we can get someone else in the race come convention time. In my read, Paul Ryan, Jeb Bush, Bobby Jindal, and maybe McDonnell are the most likely choices.

  • red_oakster

    nt

  • PubliusII

    will destroy him, even if, in context, they are not “bad”.

    The attacks Romney is receiving from Newt are but weak, insipid, pale foretastes of the vituperous smears Obama is, even now, drawing up against him. The media is in the tank for Obama and will pile on Romney, not point out the errors, etc. in what Obama dishes out. It is going to be ugly.

    The point is: Romney keeps giving Obama and his amen corner in the media fresh ammunition. Romney’s explanations and appeals to context aren’t solving this for him now, and won’t help him in the general election. Moreover, in the general election, Romney will not be able to out-advertize Obama 65-1.

    I am reluctantly coming to the conclusion that Romney can’t refute what Obama will hurl at him. How can Romney beat Obama?

    Perhaps the best thing is for a brokered convention, at which a candidate without either Newt’s or Romney’s failings will emerge.

  • thosjefferson

    What kind of Emperor would Newt be if he couldn’t change the rules when they don’t favor him?

    Notice he didn’t challenge Florida’s winner-take-all rules before the vote. In good Emperor fashion, he waited until after the vote to contest the rules.

    Go EmperorNewt!

    PS: I hope he calls me today when he’s spending his time on the phone frantically begging for cash instead of campaigning. He’s such an amazing leader!

  • BigDog

    Good Lord Mitt…..one day after winning Florida decisively you certainly took away everyone’s doubt about you being a 1% ‘er.

    I have no problem with your money….. we all know that the color that counts in America is green not red white or blue …….but what a bonehead!

    Everyone knows what you were trying to say but is that the way it will get reported? Hell no.

    If you are going to stumble into a goof like this you are playing right into the media’s pre-conceived notion of all Republicans.

    Electability?…maybe not.

  • waxmanlaw

    All legit candidates should be on the ballot in VA. It is called voting. If FL was playing by the rule book they would have awarded one delegate to the winner of each CD and had some proportional system for awarding the other 23 or 25 delegates. Now if the vote by CD was not feasible, they should have come up with a statewide proportional system.

    Georgia, Tennessee, and Oklahoma will be huge on Super Tuesday if Newt can win them all. Plus on March 13th is MS and AL.

  • Repair_Man_Jack

    ?To suggest that all we need to do is worry about the social safety net?No?NO!?, Santorum said. ?You don?t focus on the social safety net, you focus on how you create a ladder of success for the very poor. It shows that Governor Romney looks at people?in this case ?the poor??differently. Like being very poor is a disability.?

    Ht:(KMOX)

  • vtdelacy

    Having been such a long-term Senator, Santorum should be able to come up with enough funding to make it through the nomination process and, as we have already heard from conservative icon Rush Limbaugh, Santorum indeed IS the very best conservative remaining in the race for the Presidency this year. Santorum for President, 2012!

  • http://exm.nr/mSvNyd Michael Francis

    if he wasn’t to busy flip-flopping around. How he can be looked at as a good speaker and debater is beyond me. He needs a teleprompter as badly as Barry.

  • littletboca

    Thanks for the update Erick.

  • Common_Cents

    Feb will be tough on Gingrich

  • rwp4liberty

    Why should Erick Erickson sound so surprised about Romney’s “promptly [telling] conservatives he was incapable of articulating conservatism.” The man is NOT a conservative! And then Erick laments over the fact he showed his true colors. I love this site, but I get so frustrated over Erick’s contempt for the “big-government statist Santorum crap.” How would you define Romneycare, Erick?…fiscally responsible conservatism? And to appear to bitch about the fact Romney may lose delegates in Florida…GOOD!

    Romney = Obama

  • renl57

    If Gingrich was taken down by millions of dollars in attack ads launched by Romney, then he clearly couldn’t withstand the tens of millions of dollars in attack ads that Obama would throw at him.

    Plus the AFL-CIO’s own attack ads.

  • rwp4liberty

    Romney picked up 2 votes in South Carolina, and Santorum and Paul both got a few…SC is not exempt. Check your facts…

  • dalehogue

    Pickie, pickie, pickie.

    Those who favor someone other than Mitt Romney are like dogs who haven’t been fed today, they’ll jump at anything in order bite into anything that will satisfy their hunger.

    Almost any phrase can be taken out of the context in which it was intended and turned into something that the listener intended to interpret wrongly, if the listener is looking hard enough and wants the speaker to screw up and say something that can be turned against him. And anybody with an ounce of intelligence realizes that this the way the political world works.

    Don’t sweat it. If this is the only thing that can be thrown against the wall, it won’t stick, not now, not ever. Mitt has a great deal to offer the voters of the United States; administrative experience, private business experience, working well with those who are members of the other political party, and the ability to speak to the American people without the aid of a teleprompter.

  • remalimo

    Does Virginia not have writein provision or capability? I am aware of an election in TX where a writein won the election 110 to 2 and the 2 was on the ballot.

  • websmith

    The entire left/right conversation and now the right battle by its self are sideshows, a circus, American Idol, Superbowl, wrestling, etc, cookies for our minds to deflect attention away from what is actually transpiring world wide and America is in the way, not for long though, as long as we continue to chit chat shallow trifles, the machine moves forward and the tsunami develops with unstoppable speed.

  • remalimo

    As you have been made aware in this Blog Soros believes that Mitt and “O” are about the same we need to watch the $ go down the tube like Soros took the # and we can all be in the 1% (top or bottom) I’m not sure.

  • surfcitysocal

    Yes, if I were Mitt, I’d be nervous about Santorum. As a Bachmann supporter, I said I’d never support anyone else, but Malkin’s endorsement, while acknowledging his flaws, brought me into Santorum’s camp. By the way, we just sent him some money.

  • carolynr

    Yup…from a group called Contract with America…a brokered convention…top choices…Rubio and Christie. Newt was in there to vote for…but…nooooo mention of WILLARD.

  • littlehouse18

    I found myself agreeing with him a lot in the debates. If he surges, we can at least get a good look at his positions, and see what gets thrown at him and how he handles it. I suspect most voters don’t know much about him because of such focus on Mitt and Newt (sort of what happened to Perry). I hear from mutual acquaintances that RS is a great guy.

  • carolynr

    Really…we all talked about this before he won FL. This is going to be the big pitch by Obama. I wonder if Romney isn’t WORKING for Obama. We thought that Biden was bad…Romney will give Obama everything he needs and then some.

    You thought Newt was dumb about the moon…this man is the gift that keeps on giving…to who…Obama.

  • bluerose75

    It is joyous seeing the tin suit try to dodge and duck his own stupidity with his “poor’ remark. Lets see how your tin suit does defending his truthfulness for change!!…Romney is great at lying and running ads to reshape his true colors!! It is delicious seeing him stew in his own words. Maybe he can run an ad and tell the public another Romney said the “poor” remark.

    Buddy when Obama unleashes on this wimp no gopher hole will be big enough for him to fit when he is demolished. Obama will have a field day with the tin suit! And Mitt supporters will be running and looking for help. We conservatives do not like him and he will be out on his own! Boy Obama Central must be brewing some great ads if they run against this tin suit!

  • waxmanlaw

    SC chose to have delegates by CD. Santorum and Paul got delegates in other states not SC. Romney won one CD for his two delegates.

  • bluerose75

    Why? because he is fake. When you create a narrative about who you are and what you will do there is one problem: The truth will get in the way!! Henceforth Mitt and his team of clueless blunders painted Newt as the rogue, the guy that would say something and doom the GOP, the unreliable and misfit with no control….I guess they forgot to tell Mitt to take the foot out of his big mouth!!

    Mitt is liberal, arrogant and nasty. He was just caught being himself! Why do you think the MSM media keeps telling us only Mitt can beat Obama? Because they know he is absolutely the one that Obama will whip!! And Mitt just gave them a steam train!!

  • davehfd

    If Romney is the Republican candidate, you will have a choice between a light-skinned Obama and a dark-skinned Obama.
    They both worship at the temple of Saul Alinsky and are in Soros’s pocket.

  • msbs05

    I am so “unenthused” I see no reason to work for or donate to the RNC or Mitt, and I let them know when they called yesterday for another contribution. I worked so hard in 2010, donating to so many campaigns,making calls, knocking on doors, writing letters to the editor, etc. In 2008 I did the same for McCain once Palin was on board. I wont be doing any of it this go around because I feel like a “useful idiot”. With Romney we get more of the same, more spending, no majoring cutting, nothing worth me caring about. My ticket in TN03 will be RINO Rep Fleischman, RINO Sen Corker, and RINO Romney. Cant see the reason to take time out of my day to go vote. Maybe the RNC will stop mocking their conservative base if they have to start working for our vote again,instead of always being more concerned about the independents.

  • deVere

    She said that of two GOP presidential candidates, ?one is a practicing polygamist, and he?s not even the Mormon,?

    Newt’s got a political problem..

  • tnguy

    The last thing we need is someone like Santorum. He would do nothing more than a string together an endless parade of big government programs that would make Bush blush. If by some miracle he won, 4 years from now our economy would be in worse shape than ever, and liberals would be screaming that they tried it our way and it didn’t work.

    Erick’s piece calling him a “big government conservative” was right on the $$$. I’d write someone in before I voted for Santorum. It puzzles me that people don’t see Santorum and his ilk as the root of the problem. Or rather, our nonsensical willingness to vote for such is the root of our problems.

    http://www.redstate.com/erick/2012/01/06/what-a-big-government-conservative-looks-like/

    My God, what is wrong with you people?

  • carolina

    The rest of the primaries that are held before Apr 1 are supposed to be porportional, per the rules. I think the ‘non-4 early states’ that vote before March 1st are supposed to have their delegates reduced by 1/2.
    So – technically FL should have 1/2 of their delegates and they should be porportional.
    Special treatment for one state vs another is BAD business. The GOP needs to get its act together!

  • mong001

    has Santorum within 2 points of Obama nationally, Romney within one. I know it’s only one poll, but it bolsters the argument that Romney is not more electable than the other candidates. Another recent poll had Santorum and Romney running about the same against Obama in Ohio. There’s still time to stop an “inevitable” Romney victory.

  • http://www.hakubi.us/ Neil Stevens

    And Santorum ain’t it.

  • jomo2009

    is looking down the road at a Romney-Santorum ticket?

    As far as Paul is concerned, there was an article in the WaPo this morning about Paul’s people attempting to get elected to various posts that will have some say in the policy and platform committees.

  • kopen

    Once again the repubs are determined to elect obama why else would they back a milktoast like romney .. un believable that our Country is slipping into the obise and no one is upset about romney being pushed into the # one spot ..
    Newt and Sarah . in my opinion they should be the winning ticket ..
    GOD Bless America .. May GOD Have mercy on our souls

  • kleerstreem

    When will you folks in the media get hold of the GOP rules committee and get clarification on whether FL is a proportional or winner take all state??? Or are you just trying to cause trouble???….Sometime Newt is just stupid because here is what the GOP Rules say:

    The following rule was adopted by the Republican Party back in August 2010….

    “Any presidential primary, caucus, convention, or other meeting held for the purpose of selecting delegates to the national convention which occurs prior to the first day of April in the year in which the national convention is held, shall provide for the allocation of delegates on a proportional basis.”

    This new rule means that delegates will be apportioned to candidates on a proportional basis in Republican caucuses and primaries that are conducted prior to April 1st.

    =============================================
    One notable exception to this rule is Florida, which got approval to remain a “winner take all” state. So Florida will be very important.
    ============================================

    In addition, all of the states that are now using “proportional representation” do not allocate delegates the exact same way. Each state has slightly different election rules.

    But in general, in most of the primaries and caucuses held before April 1st, delegates will be awarded to multiple candidates instead of to just a single candidate.

    Now if you know of anything better please tell us and stop all this speculation.

    Thanks!

  • elayman

    particularly if an outsider is brought in and it becomes obvious the candidate is chosen by party leaders, not primary voters. Santorum with views on gay people, abortion, and foreign policy that are so far to the right of most Americans would get the evangelical base which is not much more than what he is already winning.

  • carolina

    So – FL got an exception to the rule. Why has there been all of the nonsense about “punishing FL twice”? I think the GOP has a communication problem, so they own a share of this useless confusion.

  • thinkfirst1

    When I study the Florida results, the vote, the exit polls, and the comparisons to 2008 the clear take-away is None of the Above.

    We need someone new in; Coburn-West, Scarborough-West, Perry-West … SOMEONE SAVE US from these babbling lightweights, please?

  • arthurjake

    Va does not have right ins. That is why the non Romney canidates should gang up on him. If you get beet by nutter Paul on a one on one that shows just how unelectable Romney really is and takes the delegates from him.

  • arthurjake

    Newt’s line is he wants to get people to riise from the bottom through a working prosperous country. Romney’s is keep the status quo and keep people poor and forced to live off of government scraps. Dont pull the class warfare crud here. It will not get you anyway.

  • celador2

    Newt’s FL primary speepch left an impression.

    The message I got was a gut reaction, an emotional one that created warmer feelings for Gingrich than I have had since he began his run for president. I felt respect for his intense drive to win for us what the others can not. He touched on my issues well several times.

    He was ready to go on, was in no mood to congratulate Romney and has not set aside the horrible attacks from Romney. Newt’s tone was much like a civil war or revolutionary war general. That is the atmosphere aura I felt. His cadeance, his words, were so not a standard stump speech but a list of grievances we feel now on the spot.

    To him this is a battle that is more than a campaign to be the nominee. Its a scared duty for him fighting for the life and death of our future. I admired that intense stance and outlook. I know he wants votes and he says many, many things that might get them.

    Newt Gingrich came through bold and clear.

  • arthurjake

    That isnt saying much though. His record in the Senate puts him in the same big government compassionate conservative mold as Bush.

  • arthurjake

    write not right. Sorry everyone it is late in my part of the world.

  • neum432

    would he complain about being carpetbombed by Obama? Or would he stay positive and keep fighting for what he believes in? For a guy that want’s to be President, he sure does not seem to be organized at all. Apparantly he just got his Florida campaign headquarters set up about 2 weeks before the primary. No wonder he lost.

  • http://boldcolor.blogspot.com/ Paula

    I don’t remember which news show he was on, but he was going on about how Floridians will have an important voice in the primary because of this move. Um…hey…what makes Floridians so special? Why are they more important than those of us in Ohio? I’m sitting here right now with an absentee ballot that has a high likelihood of being completely meaningless by March 6th, thanks to these early primaries.

  • trutexan

    I listen to Hannity on the way home most days. Paul has repeatedly declined interviews and Hannity has brow-beaten Rand Paul to talk to his dad to get on the show. Rand was on just yesterday and I heard the conversation. What gives? Is Paul a serious candidate?

  • http://boldcolor.blogspot.com/ Paula

    Not Romney. The only people I know who say they support Romney cite the inevitability excuse. Those who support Santorum (and who backed Perry) do so because they believe he’s more conservative than either Romney or Gingrich.What would be the point of jumping to Romney? They’d be more likely to take one step down the conservatism ladder to Newt rather than going to the ground floor with Mitt.

  • http://boldcolor.blogspot.com/ Paula

    Perhaps Santorum can offer Romney some classes on Conservatism 101.

    This could take a while. Romney should dedicate every waking minute to immersion in conservatism. Until he is completely assimilated, he should stay far away from the Oval Office.

  • evas

    guess you prefer Obama.

  • raginpatriot

    I’m for Santorum now — reasonably conservative and unlikely to have personal baggage October surprises.

    Then would go for Newt — a bipolar conservative with dangerous erraticism — but when in elected office did at least accomplish some conservative ends.

    Romney — last resort. When in office was a liberal. HE WAS THE BETA-TESTER FOR OBAMACARE, FOR GOD’S SAKE! I would hold my nose and vote for him if he was the nominee, but that would be the extent of it — I wouldn’t donate or volunteer time.

  • raginpatriot

    The presence of Quayle didn’t entice George H. to not govern as a “moderate.”

    The presence of Dick Cheney didn’t entice George W. to not govern as a “moderate.”

    So while some conservatives might be enticed to give Romney absolution for picking Santorum (or another conservative), just as some did with McCain for selecting Palin, when you really think about it doing such is really just an insulting gesture by the “moderates” to fool what they perceive as the conservative boobs.

  • jdogg87

    there doesn’t seem to have been any polling done in colorado yet…

    http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/latest_polls/

    where are you seeing this

  • jomo2009

    But unless a brokered convention is in the cards (not likely), if one sees the defeat of Obama as imperative to the survival of the republic, are there any other feasible options other than a kangaroo ticket?

  • greyeagle

    Mitt is sure no moderate. He is a progressive liberal.

  • greyeagle

    Romney will not repeal Obamacare. (according to his campaign.)
    Obama has told the Catholics a variety of things such as abortion pill.
    Romney told the Catholic churches the same things. i will not vote for hhim.

  • tnguy

    At least not the one that matters now. If we’re not willing to address the rot in our own party, what hope have we to make headway against the other side.

    “And why beholdest thou the mote that is in thy brother’s eye, but considerest not the beam that is in thine own eye?”

  • krish

    after the back to back gaffes! Mitt should learn how to use teleprompter pronto for interviews! Barack can teach him how to use it effectively!

    Presidential Debate: Teleprompter vs. Teleprompter – who has the better technology & may be can feed answers quickly?

    Prediciton – Barack wins TKO in the I round

  • septembergurl

    feb 4; Nevada caucus. Romney set to win in one of his backyards. Big Mormon vote. Who comes second? right now it’s Newt. Ron Paul a distant 4th in spite of having worked the state for months.

    Feb 7: Minnesota and Colorado caucus, Miissouri primary. Santorum has high hopes for winning Minnesota on the grounds that the Republican primary electorate is similar to neighboring Iowa, which he won. Colorado looks like Romney. Missouri is a chance for Santorum–Romney head to head since Newt did not gt on the ballot.

    Feb 28: Michigan and arizona primaries. This will be really interesting. In Michigan (one of his home states), romney leads but not by as much as other contests. The auto bailout and success/failure of auto companies is big here. romney opposed auto bailout. Santorum has claimed he alone can win Midwest and Rustbelt states — so he needs to do well here.

    Maine — somewhere in here Maine caucuses = ron paul has campaigned there, he might pick up Libertarian types as in NH. Otherwise one of Romney’s backyards.

    so you can see a path for Romney — pick up as much as possible in the caucuses, win ariz, Missouri & Mich primaries.

    for Santorum – win Minn caucus and finish strongly in Mich primary. Put up some numbers in Nevada and try to win Missouri primary.

    For paul: Like Erick I see him as a spent force. He might pick up a delegate or two.

    For Gingrich: February is kind of a disaster. The only good state for him (sort of southern) is Missouri, where he is not on the ballot. He needs to hold on till March, where some Southern states come into play. Can he do it?

    Will be interesting going forward.

    My personal view: Has not changed. There are two problems with Romney:

    1. He is a terrible candidate. Nobody else would have done the Don’t care about poor people/Trump endorsement in quite this craptastic fashion. He was always terrible. He lost to the guy who lost to Obama.

    2. He is not conservative. “safety net” nuff said.

  • celador2

    Newt Gingrich will learn that organization matters now or he will flop and sink like a stone. This can work for him to display his messages in settings that amplify his points. He can make speeches pushing religious liberty, judges, do townhalls with small or large crowds. Win support voter by voter. Santorum so won Iowa that way.

    In his case his strength may have been not being disciplined to the point of a cut out. Romney is a cut out mouthing lines.

    . Nevada has many Mormons as does Arizona. If voters see a deeply conservative candidate other than Romney it will show in NV and west. There are high expectations on Romney.

    Santorum and Gingrich can rebound after west. Southern voters, midatlantic, Midwest, the race is open as long as that inevitable Romney bandwagon is not rolling along.If only there were more proportional states. We select delegates to the convention not vote for a nominee!

    Who will win Ohio, PA, Texas?

  • olds88er

    Are you crazy? Jeb did a great job as Governor of Florida. But did you not notice that his last name is Bush? America is not ready for a forest of Bushes. A pity, as I would support him.

  • olds88er

    Romney’s statement on the very poor, the very rich, and the middle class was right on. Read the ENTIRE statement and not just the first third.

  • antisesquipedalion

    this disgusting person put out 13,000 ads, most of which were “inaccurate” or frank lies. this person has no character. i will not vote for him– period.

  • conservative_dan

    Aside from the ad on the couch with the witch, questions about his working for Freddie/Fannie, and his personal life messes, Gingrich’s record of accomplishiments while actually IN office were quite conservative in nature. I could stand that from a President.

    I also like Santorum but I don’t think he has enough “juice” for the long haul. I don’t dislike Romney, but he is by far the least trustable in terms of conservative principles.

  • demsaresatanic

    sense for Santorum support to go to Gingrich than to Romney, what on earth does Romney have in common with Santorum except a clean marital record. I think most would break for Gingrich even with the marital issue.

  • demsaresatanic

    the RNC lost me when that country-club bunch went south on the amnesty issue. Let the bstds pay minimum-wage to their maids.

  • kegan05

    Newt Gingrich a Conservative? I don?t think so!

    In the 1990?s Newt Gingrich endorsed and wrote the Forward for a book by Alvin and Heidi Toffler entitled ?Creating a New Civilization.? The book called for our governing system to ?die and be replaced.?

    Newt thinks our Constitution is Obsolete! That sounds like Comrade Obozo who also called for the ?fundamental transformation of America.?

    No thank you! There are many, many video?s on YouTube of Newt Gingrich bloviating about being a ?Progressive and a ?Rockefeller Republican? as well as a ?Wilsonian Progressive.? Anyone thinking
    about supporting this character should read up on his background and what he truly believes. It is frightening.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=06XLIPtCXy8

    This is just one link?.There are dozens.

    Please, PLEASE do your research on this guy. I did and I would vote for Harry Reid over Newt Gingrich! At least Reid is not smart enough to be dangerous. Newt is.

  • kegan05

    Newt Gingrich a Conservative? I don?t think so!

    In the 1990?s Newt Gingrich endorsed and wrote the Forward for a book by Alvin and Heidi Toffler entitled ?Creating a New Civilization.? The book called for our governing system to ?die and be replaced.?

    Newt thinks our Constitution is Obsolete! That sounds like Comrade Obozo who also called for the ?fundamental transformation of America.?

    No thank you! There are many, many video?s on YouTube of Newt Gingrich bloviating about being a ?Progressive and a ?Rockefeller Republican? as well as a ?Wilsonian Progressive.? Anyone thinking
    about supporting this character should read up on his background and what he truly believes. It is frightening.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=06XLIPtCXy8

    This is just one link?.There are dozens.

    Please, PLEASE do your research on this guy. I did and I would vote for Harry Reid over Newt Gingrich! At least Reid is not smart enough to be dangerous. Newt is.

  • kegan05

    Newt Gingrich a Conservative? I don?t think so!

    In the 1990?s Newt Gingrich endorsed and wrote the Forward for a book by Alvin and Heidi Toffler entitled ?Creating a New Civilization.? The book called for our governing system to ?die and be replaced.?

    Newt thinks our Constitution is Obsolete! That sounds like Comrade Obozo who also called for the ?fundamental transformation of America.?

    No thank you! There are many, many video?s on YouTube of Newt Gingrich bloviating about being a ?Progressive and a ?Rockefeller Republican? as well as a ?Wilsonian Progressive.? Anyone thinking
    about supporting this character should read up on his background and what he truly believes. It is frightening.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=06XLIPtCXy8

    This is just one link?.There are dozens.

    Please, PLEASE do your research on this guy. I did and I would vote for Harry Reid over Newt Gingrich! At least Reid is not smart enough to be dangerous. Newt is.

  • kegan05

    Newt Gingrich a Conservative? I don?t think so!

    In the 1990?s Newt Gingrich endorsed and wrote the Forward for a book by Alvin and Heidi Toffler entitled ?Creating a New Civilization.? The book called for our governing system to ?die and be replaced.?

    Newt thinks our Constitution is Obsolete! That sounds like Comrade Obozo who also called for the ?fundamental transformation of America.?

    No thank you! There are many, many video?s on YouTube of Newt Gingrich bloviating about being a ?Progressive and a ?Rockefeller Republican? as well as a ?Wilsonian Progressive.? Anyone thinking
    about supporting this character should read up on his background and what he truly believes. It is frightening.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=06XLIPtCXy8

    This is just one link?.There are dozens.

    Please, PLEASE do your research on this guy. I did and I would vote for Harry Reid over Newt Gingrich! At least Reid is not smart enough to be dangerous. Newt is.

  • Juggernaut

    with increases that some companies can’t sustain without penalizing other employees or jeopardizing the company in general. Clearly Romney should not be the nominee. This man is no conservative no matter what he says, not even a conservative businessman. Newt must focus on what matters most and not let any lie go unchallenged on issues or Romney’s past.

  • sophillyjimmy

    Trying to be the Republican Candidate in the general election by going at each others throats is only giving ammo to Obama to be re-elected and this in fighting is the worse I have ever seen in a primary race.
    The only true Republican candidate is being ignored by the RNC and that is Ron Paul. I am not what is known as a Libertarian, I have always been a Republican but Gingrich, Romney and Santorum are weak choices to go up aganst this Dictator And Chief and the campaign money he has accumilated and it is guaranteed Obama will use that money to defame every one of them with their own words.
    If they didn’t attack each other with everything in their arcenal, Obama wouldn’t have a chance since he can’t run on his first term which is nothing but fraud, lies, robbing the tax payers and corruption to the highest degree but when he has over a billion dollars to cast doubt on his opponent in the general election, it will cause so much damage I am afraid he will win, and after seeing the damage he did to America in only 3 years, I could just imagine what America will be after 5 more years of this Marxist President.
    None of the Republican candidates are looking ahead to the general election they are too busy jerking each other off.
    Wake up RNC, Gingrich, Romney and Santorum don’t have skeletons in their closets they have entire cemetaries in there, so if we have any chance at all they are going to constantly attack the real enemy who is Obama and the Democratic Machine and stop pulling pins on the granades and dropping them in their own trenches.

  • its2l82w8

    A very small suggestion … we might be a bit more accurate to describe the reluctant acquiescence to a Romney candidacy as the Great Congealing instead of the Great Coalescing.

    Coalescing is a bit too positive a term to describe the process. Congealing (think of rancid oil discarded by a fast food franchise) just seems to strike a more accurate chord.

  • rwp4liberty

    You admit Romney got 2 of the 25 delegates, and the doudle-down on your claim its a winner take all state. Apparently its NOT wnner take all!

  • standingonthewall

    Missouri primary is ‘show’ only. No delegates awarded. Caucus in March will determine delegates.

  • Change Jar Conservative

    I believe in the “best available governor” for President.

    Right now that leaves me just Mitt.

    Would love to have a chance at Jindal / Daniels at brokered convention.

    Would I abandon the governor first mantra?

    Yeah, I might for Paul Ryan. But none of Gingrich, Santorum, or Paul are good enough for me to jump off the “Governor first” bandwagon.

  • clowngirl

    and is afraid to seriously take on Romney.

    Neither theory is flattering to Senator Santorum.

  • joeydavis

    I support Santorum. I love Newt Gingrich, I just don’t think he’s presidential material.His past is past, but it still matters.

    If Santorum were to drop out, I’d support Gingrich. If Gingrich were then to drop out, I’d support Ron Paul. There exists NO circumstance where I would support Mitt Romney in a primary.

    Truth be told, there are a lot of Democrats I’d support before I’d support Mitt Romney. Fortunately for him, Barack Obama is not one of them.

  • joeydavis

    Why Governor as the first qualification?

    State government is very very different from Federal government..

    Certainly the Speaker of the House would have better federal experience than a Governor. I’d also think a ranking member of the majority party in the senate would also have better experience.

    Seems to me as though the Senator and the Speaker would be more capable from day 1 than any governor would.

    Certainly if one considers Paul Ryan or Bobby Jindal more presidential than Mitt romney, then Rick Santorum clears the hurdle easily as he’s far far more experienced than either of them.

  • joeydavis

    What he said was in context…

    I’m not worried about the poor. They have safety nets. If they need fixing I’ll fix them. I’m not worried about the rich, they’re doing just fine.

    That’s a very practical cutthroat business answer and I’m certain it is exactly what he meant.

    The problem here is government is NOT cut throat business. The job of the President is not to create the leanest, meanest, most profitable bottom line for the shareholders (the middle class). It is to take care of the interests of EVERYONE: rich, poor and middle class.

    Mitt Romney doesn’t get it and anyone who finds this answer acceptable doesn’t get it either.

  • joeydavis

    That’s why Santorum and not Romney should be the nominee. Rick Santorum “gets it”. Mitt Romney never will.

  • http://www.hakubi.us/ Neil Stevens

    Then I don’t trust your judgment.

  • joeydavis

    The race is always going to be a 2 man race. When it becomes 2, Santorum knows he can beat Romney. But first he has to get in the game. The way to do that is to take 2nd place from Gingrich.

    Santorum and Gingrich are fighting for the same money, the same followers and the same air time. He has to beat Gingrich to be the conservative front runner.

    Once he does, he can focus on Romney.

    Note that earlier in the campaign it was Ron Paul who went viciously after Santorum. It’s all about position. Right now the race is for #2 and the chance at #1.

  • kegan05

    I was trying to make a point.

    If you think I would vote for that nasty little weasel for dog catcher, you would be wrong.

  • Repair_Man_Jack

    He isn’t smart enough to be dangerous either! Run, Forrest, Run!1!1

  • joeydavis

    Rick Santorum has run statewide in Pennsylvania 3 times and won twice. He only lost with the noose of George Bush hanging around his neck, not his hard right conservatism. He beat an incumbent Democrat in a blue state to become a Senator. He beat an incumbent Democrat in a blue district to become a Congressman.

    Rick Santorum has always been a hard right candidate and he has always been successful in democratic turf against democrats.

    Rasmussen showed yesterday Obama 46 Romney 45 and Obama 46 Santorum 44. Noting that it’s national polling and Romney fairs far better in blue states where Obama’s going to win, and that Romney has 98% name recognition, it’s obvious that Santorum is at least as electable as Romney, probably more so.

  • nabell87

    Santorum, has establishment guys yelling in his ear that he should be the alternative to Mitt. They are saying Newt doesnt have a shot and that he should be the non Romney.

    I believe a lot of the new money coming in for Santorum is coming from the pockets of those propping him up against Newt. Take the money from the Romney guys and then feed his ego a little and he will try to stay in this thing forever. Everyone says that Gingrich has the ego problem…. I think Santorum does. He got a fluke win in Iowa because everyone beat the heck out of each other and he happened to be the one left standing because he was never focused on.

    If he didnt have such a huge ego he would bow out of this thing.

  • nabell87

    Gingrich supporters wont get behind Santorum. He comes off as an awkward whiner to me. Presidential…. blah. Gingrich has the solid leg to stand on here. Santorum took lessons on conservatism from Gingrich. His pro-life statism will only get him so far in this primary. He is not as strong of a candidate hands down.

  • joeydavis

    As a member of the senate leadership he had a job to do. That job is to carry your president’s water, which is what he did. He lost his job for it. He was a good representative for his state and a good servant for his President.

    The kind of loyalty he’s shown to his President, to his party and even to his fellow Pennsylvania senator, whom he didn’t always agree with, is an admirable trait. He should be rewarded for it, instead of being crucified as less than conservative.

  • mikeymike143

    i support santorum because i feel he is the most conservative candidate. if he was to drop out i would certainly support newt over romney.

  • septembergurl

    My point was that in a month where Newt will not will anything, even a beauty contest win would be something worth pursuing.

    Note to self: spell it out.

  • http://www.voteforteri2010.com teridavisnewman

    I lived in FL during Jeb’s tenure and he indeed was an excellent governor. Jeb is the smart Bush, not W., and SHOULD have been POTUS instead of his brother who was not ready for or good at his job. My hope is that America will learn this when it comes time to primary Romney should he elected.

  • kegan05

    I would vote for them to be the first to board the Mothership and get beamed up to inhabit the Moon Colony.

  • joeydavis

    You clearly don’t understand the job of the Republican leadership under a Republican president.

    Santorum’s JOB was to deliver Bush’s policy. It wasn’t to say well the country elected you, but Pennsylvania elected me so I’m going to do it my way.

    The fact that he did his job is admirable.

    If he were setting the priorities, I’m sure they’d be different.

    If I were running my boss’s company, I’d do a lot of things differently. But I don’t I work for him, I do it his way (even when I don’t agree and think my way would be better)

    The Republican leadership is supposed to deliver the platform the Republican president was elected on. Santorum did his job and lost his seat because of it. What more do you want?

  • http://www.voteforteri2010.com teridavisnewman

    If Barack Obama is not natural born due to non-citizen parents, then Bobby Jindal isn’t eligible either as BOTH of his parents were not citizens at the time of his birth although they are now. My mother-in-law was one of Jindal’s teachers in High School and she says he is extremely intelligent, which he is, but unfortunately he may not be eligible under the natural born rule.

  • jabajax44

    The first and last column today relate to many of the same issues. I always thought Coulter was a little bit wild, but she’s calm now compared to Newt, whom I love like a parent loves a child.

    COLA: Does it occur to anyone that giving the minimum wage COLA’s will be slower than the inevitable large increases in the MW that Congresses continually force Presidents to accept? This is actually a good way to slow the job killing MW. They don’t increase the MW very often, but when they do it’s a large one.
    Tied to a COLA, we have a good additional argument against large increases.

    I’m also disappointed with Romney for being timid in his drawing distinctions between RomneyCare and ObamaCare, of which there are many. He hits on these now and then; he needs to do it more often. The only similarity seems to be the individual mandate, which was justified by conservatives for many years as a way to make people responsible for their health care which is paid by the government already through the Emergency Room if they don’t have insurance. I understand that the mandate is issue one, but it’s issue one mainly because of all the other aspects of ObamaCare which turns health insurance policy making over to the government, which RomneyCare does not do. I don’t like the mandate, but that’s just one of the cogs in the ObamaCare machine. I would use the analogy of the gun control issue:
    It’s not guns which kill people; it’s the people using the guns who do that, if you substitute the mandate for guns.

  • paco12348

    One thing is for sure, regardless of what Romney says, the Republican Establishment will remain in power with Romney elected and nothing will change in Washington. That’s why they excoriated Newt. The Republicans will continue to treat their base like sheep to be led to the vote and woe be to any candidate that might shake the political tree the Giants live in.

  • Seedyrom

    which can extend to a 44 day wait time. There are other bad ideas in Romneycare. He wants a state version of Obamacare which is expensive and only complicates out lives while costing us more. Both plans aren’t going to work plus we can expect quality of care to decline as gov tries to cut costs which always backfires.

  • Seedyrom

    there is a lot of misinformation about Newt, many are just people mad he killed Bush’s plan to raise taxes. The rest are power plays just like the ones Pelosi and now Boehner are experiencing. I don’t care about his affairs as the gop did little about Vitter and Ensign. Though the latter resigned years later. People resisted Newt’s plan to take the house in 1994 too.

  • Repair_Man_Jack

    But that just makes your case stronger.

  • Seedyrom

    and then some.

  • clowngirl

    I saw him speak here in Colorado and somebody asked him where he saw a path to victory — and it was pretty clear he doesn’t have one.

    He talked about how people keep saying it’s a two man race — but it’s been a two man race with about 10 different people (an obvious exaggeration that got a laugh)

    but there was no mention of strategy or states he thought he had a good chance of winning. He just seems to be hoping that by some fluke he’ll wind up surging.

    He really isn’t making the case that he could beat Romney — at all. His claim that Newt not being able to beat Romney in Florida proves that he should have a chance (when he finished 33 points behind Romney and 19 behind Newt) is laughable on it’s face.

    As is his assertion that he’s not asking anyone to get out of the race because “he can beat Romney straight up”

    In Colorado he spoke of Romney as the “weakest candidate” and expressed dire concerns about the father of Romneycare being the nominee, but his apparent unwillingness to challenge Romney — actually going out of his way to not hit Romney – with his attack ads, leads me to seriously question whether he means it.

  • elayman

    That I think would be his undoing. The country simply is not in the mood for a necon, squishy fiscal conservative, cultural warrior that habitually makes incendiary statements on sensitive subjects. But it is a totally moot question since he isn’t anywhere close to capturing the nomination at this point.

  • clowngirl

    First off, Newt’s not leaving the race. He’s vowed to stay in to the end and he’s still doing a lot better than Santorum.. So the idea that Santorum can outlast him is silly.

    To this point, Newt hasn’t really attacked Santorum. If he starts to look like a threat to overtake him , that will very likely change.

    Santorum , to this point, has had very little scrutiny — when and if that changes, he will lose support.

    Secondly, Romney has the media (during the primary season) firmly on his side and they’re just dying to call the race over and Romney the winner (see the fact that they’re already doing it) the notion that Santorum can’t just leave Romney alone and split the conservative vote until Newt is fatally wounded and then successfully unseat presumptive nominee Romney.

    He would either have no success and be ignored or – if he looked like any amount of a threat — Romney would hit him with the same kind of vicious, dishonest, $10-$15 saturation smear campaign we just saw against Gingrich and – with ample media help- would squash him easily.

  • clowngirl

    $10 to $15 MILLION saturation smear campaign… (Not $10-$15 :P )

  • clowngirl

    I agree that Newt is clearly the stronger candidate. hands down.

    Santorum ‘s primary rationale for staying in seems to be his Iowa Caucuses win. But even there — with Santorum getting extraordinarily lucky and Newt being savaged- he only beat Newt by around 10%.

    When Newt won South Carolina he beat Sanrtorum by 23.5 points. Even if Florida where Newt faced a coordinated smear campaign and the brunt of Romney’s $15 million in attack ads, Newt still finished 18.5 points ahead of Santorum.

    It should be obvious that Newt is the candidate most likely to beat Romney — what isn’t obvious is whether Santorum cares about denying Mitt Romney the nomination.

    A Santorum withdrawal/endorsement (before Super Tuesday) would almost certainly ensure a Gingrich victory.

    I just hope the Senator is seriously considering that.

  • barkus

    All that infighting among the Republican candidates does serve a purpose. It prepares the Republican nominee for all the slings and arrows that the Dems will hit him with. It really benefite Romney, because he doesn’t seem too good at defending himself. Newt Gingrich and Santorum are nore skilled at thie, but with all the vitriol the Dems and the media will throw at the Republicans, they could also use practice ub defending themselves.

    Regardless of which Republican wins the nomination, I will vote dor him. They’re all 100% better than Obama.

  • barkus

    Does “anyone but Mitt”mean that you’re voting for Obama? Or will you stay home as a no vote and give BO 4 more years.

  • lylem

    but I did note that the counties in FL that Romney won were won by 15 to 25% over Gingrich. And the counties won by Gingrich were won by equally large margins over Romney.

  • jabajax44

    “Erratic messaging” is a nice way to put it. But I like Newt, so I’ll go along for now. What Newt should see is that despite what happened in Iowa, voters don’t like his form of negative ads. They would have more respect for him if he went positive, which he did on election day in Florida, at least on TV. But not on radio.

    I hate to say this, because it plays into another negative stereotype on Newt, but I rarely see Calista say anything; very rarely. She stands by Newt and claps. Why mention this? Because Mitt (and Barrack, God help us) has a wive who can give a great introducing speech; very well spoken. This is a big asset now and will be moreso in the general election. I’ve seen her speak on the stump and on TV, introducing Mitt, and she’s a good speaker. What can Calista do for the campaign? Write kids’ books? I hate to be so negative, because I respect Newt more than it would appear here, but somebody has to tell the king he has no clothes, so to speak. That’s another unfortunate analogy, but it’s just between friends here.

    His Terrible Swift Sword

  • http://www.voteforteri2010.com teridavisnewman

    PART ONE:
    Insider:? Got a bone?to pick with you son.

    UM:? Yeah?
    Insider:? Oh yeah.? Big time.? Told you?been saying to you for a while now?you keep the heat on Obama.? Don?t wander off takin? the bait on other sh-t.? Otherwise you?re wasting my time ? and time is somethin? we are in short supply of these days.
    UM:? All right, I?ll bite.? How about you explain that?
    Insider:? You know what I?m talking about.? Don?t play dumb now.
    Read more in News
    ??Yet Another Taxpayer-Funded Vacation for Michelle Obama?
    UM:? I?m not playing?dumb.? What?s up?
    Insider:? Why the Santorum article?? The dogs ain?t treein? nothin? there.? Why you fallin? for that sh-t?? You can be a damn fool ? a stubborn damn fool.
    UM:? Thanks.? Appreciate that.
    Insider:? Now don?t go gettin? all hurt up about it?but for God?s sake son?you can?t go running around hopping on to every little article that comes out spreading more chaos in the primary race.? It?s a put-on.? You?re being played and every other one of you who are doin? the same are being played too.? The focus is Obama.? Always.? Focus. Focus. Focus.? Stop takin? your damn eye of the ball.
    UM:? The RedState story?? On Santorum?s big government ? his less than conservative record?
    Insider:? Yeah ? that stupid sh-t your put up on the blog. Knock that sh-t off.? Like right now.? No more of it.? I don?t wanna see no more of it.? Obama is the target.? Go after Obama and stay the f-ck outta messin? with the other?the primary stories.? At least don?t go pittin? one candidate against the others ? media doin? enough of that.? Don?t need you and everyone else like you falling right in line and doin? the same like a bunch a braindead liberal bloggin? fool soldiers.? Focus everything ? and I mean everything, on messin? with Obama.? The other stuff?the Republican primary?they are running a classic pump and dump.?Been doin? it against them for months.? I warned you about it ? sh-t?how long ago now?? Were you not listening to me?
    UM:? Pump and dump?? I don?t recall hearing that term.
    Insider:? I told you about that?pretty sure I did.? Maybe it was someone else?? Don?t matter?so long as you don?t keep fallin? for it.? You and everyone else who pretends they are paying attention to this stuff.
    UM:? What is?what is a ?pump and dump??
    Insider:? It?s old school politics.? A political tactic.??Been around since Jesus was a?kid.??It?s ? now you remember the ?McCain the Campaign? thing, right?? How he was done then shot up in the polls outta nowhere.? Money started pouring in.? I know you gotta remember that.? A political pump and dump is a version of that?it?s the version.? The McCain thing was a bit of a variation but the principle is exactly the same.
    UM:? And what is the principle?? The purpose?
    Insider:? Chaos.? Uncertainty.? Infighting.? Repress the vote.? You notice the stories about low voter turnout?? You see that happening?? That?s gotta be makin? the Obama people very-very happy.? Godd?mn Republicans are losing this thing.? Idiots gonna lose this if they don?t get their sh-t together right quick now.
    UM:? What low turnout?
    Insider:? You ain?t seen those stories?
    UM:? No.
    Insider:? Well of course not.? See there ? that?s the kind of? thing I?m talkin? about here.? You?re too busy copying the other damn fools in helping with the pump and dump.? God?mit!
    UM:?? Explain the numbers ? the low turnout.? What are you talking about there?
    Insider:? The primary votes ? the turnout.? They started strong?been trailing off badly more recently.? People are getting?the motivation has been turned off.? That?s one of the benefits of the pump and dump.? Now you combine that with the bullsh-t stories on the economy and you lower the agitation in the country.? And when folks ain?t pissed?the tie goes to the incumbent.? That?s the end result.? That?s what the Obama team is playin? for now.? The tie goes to the incumbent.
    UM:? What?? Sorry but?I have no idea what you?re talking about right now.? The tie goes to the runner?
    Insider:? No ? the tie goes to the incumbent.? All things being equal?if sh-t ain?t so bad?voters will go with the incumbent.? If the other side looks all messed up?all the infighting, all the uncertainty, all the finger pointing?folks just step back across the line and vote with the incumbent.? THAT is what?s happening right now.? And you stupid little anti-Santorum story is playing right along with it.? That?s why I?m pissed.? At all of you.? All of you who say you want to defeat Barack Obama?you got?you seem clueless sometimes at how easy you are gettin? played.? I read that stuff and?you just go on making my job that much harder.? It?s tough enough son ? under the very best possibilities this thing is gonna be tough enough?but you just wanna go and make it that much tougher.
    UM:? Back up just a bit ? and thanks for the constant putdowns by the way.? Makes this all so much more enjoyable.
    Insider:? I ain?t here to play nice son.? You know that.? You best put on your man pants and get ready, ?cause you?re in the deep end now.? No backing off?you said you wanted this.? So here we are.? We about to rumble.? You?re gonna get a front row seat in how somebody gets elected President of the United States.? It ain?t pretty.? This ain?t no p-ssy ride.? This is the real deal here now.? Right now.? So if you?re worried about gettin? your feelings hurt?sh-t?me chewin? you out is gonna be the least of it.? Hand a God son?you think a person get?s a face like this from doin? it easy?? Hell no?this thing?this ?bout to get hard.? Everything up to this point?just the previews son.? You?re ?bout to get the sh-t kicked outta you.? Only question is?you got the spine to stand back up and hit the fu?ers back.? HARD.? Hit ?em so hard they done see tomorrow coming the day before.
    UM: (Laughs)
    Insider:? That?s right ? you laugh now.? You remember laughin? now.? You won?t have time for it later.? And that later is just about now.
    UM:? Back to the pump and dump?are you saying the Santorum surge ? let?s call it that?the surge was manipulated?
    Insider:? Yeah. That?s what I?m sayin?.
    UM:? Just like that?? None of his support is genuine?
    Insider:? No?not sayin? that.? He?s got support.? Real support.? They all do.? But to go from nothin? to something?it was the same thing with McCain, right?? I see their hands all over it?they done the same with all the others.? Gingrich.? Cain.? The only one they didn?t touch like that?didn?t try and help was Perry.? Perry scared ?em.? Perry was a threat.? That is, until he took himself out of it.? They didn?t need to do anything to Perry?that situation resolved itself.
    UM:? So the Santorum surge ? just to be clear?it?s a manipulation?? At least in part?
    Insider:? Exactly.? And not to take anything away from Rick Santorum ? as a candidate he?s done all right.? He?s hung in there.? He?s tried to line himself up for a VP spot.? That?s now turned into?you can see it in his eyes now ? he?s got that look that a candidate gets?starts thinkin? maybe he can actually pull this off.? Might just get himself the nomination.
    UM:? Ok ? you say it?s being done.? Explain how.? How are the Obama people manipulating Santorum?s support.? And why?? Why are they doing that?
    Insider:? It?s what was done with Gingrich.? Gingrich was elevated quickly, right?? Then the attacks came. The media repeated over and over again how the attacks came from Romney.? The negative advertising and all that.? Sure?some of that was right.? But what the media don?t say?and what idiots like you apparently don?t notice ? is all the negative MEDIA stories that are then bounced around 24/7 to push Gingrich back down.? So if you got a bunch of voters?conservative voters?they are not so keen on Romney?they?d vote for him against Obama if they had to, but they would rather have a different choice, right?? Well that?that lack of enthusiasm?that?s gold for the opposition.? That?s power.? You can manipulate that.
    This whole primary has been about that ? they have done that over and over again.? They have taken the voter?there?s a word for it.? A lack of?support.? Uncertainty?
    UM:? Antipathy.? Voter antipathy.? (Note:? meant to say ?apathy?)
    Insider:? Yeah ? that?s it.? Antipathy.? So the Obama boys?they are gonna use that antipathy as much as possible.? Play off it.? Reinforce it.? Use it to eventually limit voter agitation against Obama.? Make the Republican side look so damn chaotic people get turned off by it.? That?s their playbook?and they are doing it beautifully.? As much as it pains me to say?the Obama campaign is pulling it off beautifully.? ?Course, they are getting a nice bit of help when people like you go around helping to knock down Republican candidates like you just did with Santorum.? They play the music and you go out and start dancin? to it.
    UM:? That?s not?that?s not what I was doing.
    Insider:? Yeah it was.? You mighta been too dumb to notice, but yeah?that?s exactly what you were doin?.? No sense cryin? about it ? just don?t go doin? it again.
    UM:? So you?re sure about this ? that the Obama campaign is doing this ?pump and dump? as you put it?
    Insider:? No doubt whatsoever.? I know it because I?ve helped to do it myself.? Many times.? Many campaigns.? They slipped up a bit though ? they left a clear marker for folks to see if they were actually paying attention.? Which of course, most aren?t.? Even ones like yourself who think they are?who think they are following all of this?you?re missing it.
    UM:? What was the mark?
    Insider:? Marker.
    UM:? What was the marker?
    Insider:? There was a debate not so far back ? Republican debate.? And the moderator kept hammerin? away on the contraception issue.? And there was no contraception issue at that time, right?? Contraception?? Really?? Where the hell did that come from?? And why did that moderator keep at it like he did?? Repeatedly.? It came off like a joke.? People were sayin? how stupid it was.? How silly the media looked.? You remember that?

    UM:? I do.? Stephanopoulos, right?? He was the moderator who kept bringing up the issue?
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    Insider:? That?s right, George was pushing it.? F-cking George.? He?is so transparent.? I saw it immediately.? Telegraphed it.??I knew the second I saw his face as he asked the question ? I KNEW they were setting something up.? Not then ? something for later.? And now we see that plan unfolding.? This false contraception boogie man issue.
    Now that debate was over two months ago.? And the issue of contraception, which seemed totally out of left field when it was raised during that debate ? totally out of place?what is going on now?? What is the media pounding on now?
    UM:? Contraception.
    Insider:??That?s right ? contraception.? ?It started out with a conflict between the Obama administration and the Catholic Church ? but sure as sh-t the Obama team and the media have turned it into an issue over contraception and are painting the Republicans as these out of touch Bible thumpin? radicals who want to take away women?s birth control.? That is how this thing is being framed? NOW ? and it?s exactly how Stephanopoulos framed the question THEN over two months ago.? This issue was being set up the whole time.? And did you notice who was involved in the debate question first?? What candidate?
    UM:? Santorum.? Damn?it was Santorum.
    Insider:? Ah ? there?s your light bulb moment for the day!? Now you?re seein? it!? Back then ? at that time two months ago, it seemed like they were going after Romney right?? But what candidate ? who it would seem is most vulnerable to the contraception issue?what candidate has seen a huge surge in support since that same debate where the seemingly silly and out of place topic of contraception was raised by a former Clinton operative mind you?what candidate is now posing perhaps the strongest challenge yet to Mitt Romney for the GOP nomination?
    UM:? Santorum.
    Insider:? And what candidate is most vulnerable to this bullsh-t contraception issue ? at least in how the Democrats and the media are now framing it?
    UM:? Santorum.
    Insider:? There you go.? Classic political pump and dump.
    And when you go and regurgitate that RedState story knocking Rick Santorum ? you?re making yourself an accomplice to the Obama cause.? You?re part of the dump.? So do me a favor?shut the f-ck up about Santorum or any of the other Republicans and keep your focus on Barack Obama.? I am sick and tired of seeing you Republicans bashing your own.? What is the deal with all of that?? For f-cks sake now?grow up and support the defeat of Barack Obama, right?? Go ahead and support your candidate ? yeah, I get that.? But stop with the destruction of everyone else in the process.? There?s gonna be enough of that during the General?why are you Republicans so willing to help out Barack Obama in that destruction now?? It?s godd-mn appalling is what it is.? And stupid.? Stupid-stupid-stupid.
    I?ve read the comments by people sayin? they are conservative.? If Romney gets the nomination?or if Gingrich gets the nomination?or if Santorum gets the nomination?whoever gets the f-cking nomination ? they are sayin? they won?t?voter for them because ?they?re just like Obama.?? Really?? Is that right???BULLSH-T.? There ain?t nobody ?just like Obama? people.? Believe me.? You ain?t got a f-cking clue if that?s what you really think.? This country ain?t seen anybody reach the White House like Obama.? Or more importantly ? the people around Obama.? The ones?supporting and pushing Obama.? Giving him the agenda, the words, the whole f-cking plan.? So shut the hell up about not voting for the Republican because they are ?just like Obama.?? That kind of talk is comin? from somebody who either is dumb as f-ck or is working for the campaign.? The Obama campaign.? And they are crawling all over your stupid Facebook thing.? And?leaving comments on your stories.? I?warned you about that.? There?s gonna be more of it.? A lot more.? You hear somebody saying they won?t support the Republican because they are??just like Obama? ? you?ignore that sh-t.? It? ain?t worth your time.
    Any of these Republicans ? ANY OF THEM, are a hell of an improvement over Barack Obama.? If it?s Santorum, or Romney, or Gingrich, or Paul?you?fall in line and you?support that candidate and you vote Obama the f-ck out.? That?s the goal.? That?s your motivation.? PERIOD.? Because if you don?t do that?if you give this administration four more years?I?ve already said enough on that, right?? It?s never going back?the country?this version of America is finished and I got no real idea as to?how?different it?s gonna be.? We won?t recognize it ? I know that.? I was talking to a fella last week about the?Senate?plans to take the Senate.??Republicans.? As a stop-gap, right?? You know what he told me?? Looked me straight in the eye and said ? ?It won?t matter.? He has pushed executive authority so far already?it won?t matter.? Give him a couple more Supreme Court nominees?it won?t matter.? If he gets the White House again?IT WON?T MATTER.?
    Gave me chills to hear?that.? This guy don?t talk like that.? He?s seen and done more than me with this stuff?and he sounded downright defeated.? And we?re not even in March yet.? So yeah -?you Republicans better fall in line when that nominee is chosen.? No more of this political purity I want?the perfect candidate nonsense. Grow the f-ck up and vote out Obama.
    UM:? I have some?questions ? a few of them.
    Insider:? Yeah ? shoot away.? Not that you?re much of a shot.
    UM:?? Fast and Furious.? Solyndra.? What happened to the primary challenge against Obama??Your California information?the Attorney General ? that all came together.? Is there anymore on that?? Have you heard from -name deleted- ?? They haven?t responded to my?
    Insider (interrupts)
    Hold up.? Let?s talk Fast and Furious.? Let?s talk Solyndra?that ties in with -name deleted-.? Might explain why they haven?t spoken to you recently.? There?s a big shove comin? on that.? The old man is finally puttin? some skin in the game.? And about damn time.? And as far as the California stuff?that make your chin hit the floor a bit, didn?t it?? Imagine that.? Take that money laundering?all those hundreds of millions in campaign dollars cycling through there?and now reward the players with a Supreme Court position and put them first in line to replace Eric Holder at Justice.? Four more years ? and none of it will get out. NONE of it.? Ever.? You noticed that then.? Good on you.? I?ll let you in on somethin? I haven?t admitted before.? -Name deleted- ain?t the only one following the comments to your stories.? I?ve been known to sneak a peak or two myself?you got some smart folks making some real connections.? Some of it closer to the real deal than they realize.? Do me a favor and pay attention to some of that.? Most of it?a lot of what?s left is bullsh-t?but you got some people?some of them got the right eyes for this stuff.? -Name deleted- told you to slow down and notice what?s sometimes right in front of your face.? You might wanna take them up on that advice son.? I ain?t gonna be available to hold your hand through this ? gonna be too busy now.? This thing is on its way.? You need to learn to do the work yourself and not wait for me to spoon feed it to you all the time.
    UM:? (long pause) So let?s start with Fast and Furious.
    Insider:? Sure ? let?s do that?

  • rybepi

    Perhaps the non-active GOP base would be more friendly to Romney if pundits that lean conservative were more friendly to their candidate. Vetting is fine, but there’s a difference between vetting and splitting hairs. I suppose the columnists HAVE to write something to fill space, but why kick our own guys in the shin? If there’s a lack of fervor among the GOP base, it’s because pundits like you make them feel like there’s nothing to get excited about. (Ever heard of marketing? Well, Journalism is its twin.)