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Danger Will Robinson . . . or Ann Coulter

This week is a career milestone for me. I appear in Time magazine writing about the state of the conservative movement. As a kid living overseas, my American history teacher subscribed us all to Time and U.S. News and World Report. So it is kind of cool to be in an issue of, between the two, the still printed survivor.

The point I try to make is that the conservative movement is going through a necessary transition after the Bush years. You can read the whole thing here but a really relevant part is here:

The internecine fights we are witnessing are about a conservative movement starting to separate itself again from Republican Party. Unfortunately, neither of the front runners have legitimate conservative integrity to claim the banner of conservative movement leader, but they will both try. Romney will hold the banner for conservatives within the GOP and Gingrich will hold the banner of the traditional alliance of conservatives with the GOP.

I see this playing out in, of all things, my friend Ann Coulter’s column defending Romneycare. Mark Levin offers the definitive rebuttal, which you can listen to here, but there is a point that too few are making that needs to be made.

It relates to the dangers associated with supporting Mitt Romney and Ann Coulter’s column is exhibit A on why supporting Romney portends disaster for the conservative movement.

There is no need to fisk Ann’s column line by line. I’ll only quote the first paragraph, which is

If only the Democrats had decided to socialize the food industry or housing, Romneycare would probably still be viewed as a massive triumph for conservative free-market principles — as it was at the time.

I love Ann. She is brilliant. In fact, she is too brilliant to think that Romneycare is a “massive triumph for conservative free-market principles.”

It is free market economics 101 that a free market requires that individuals have the right to opt-out of a transaction. In other words, zero must be contemplated in the equation. Consider it a null function. When individuals are, through state power, forced to opt-in to a transaction as individuals are forced to buy health care as a condition of breathing in Massachusetts, it is inherently not free market because a free market depends on the freedom to not purchase. Forcing demand is more akin to the keynesian economics Obama is pushing, not Milton Friedman or Adam Smith.

But it also is not conservative.

As Mark Levin notes in his monologue, when the state — whether it is a nation or one of the fifty states — can force an individual to engage in commerce it upends the relationship between the individual and the state. The conservative view of government is that the individual is supreme. The socialist view is that the state is supreme for the betterment of the collective.

In other words, in Ann Coulter’s first paragraph she calls Romneycare both free-market and conservative, when any intellectually honest review of the facts would have no choice but to conclude it is neither. She confuses federalism and conservatism. Certainly, in our federal system, a state has plenary power to do as it wishes except for those powers it chose, in adopting our federal constitution, to cede to the federal government. But just because something is federalist does not make it conservative.

To use an analogy based on hyperbole as Ann does in her column, under the constitutions of one of the fifty states that state could constitutionally require all people buy a copy of the Communist Manifesto. It would be arguably permissible under the concept of vertical federalism, but it sure would not be conservative. Delete “Communist Manifesto” and insert “health insurance” and you have Romneycare.

During the Bush years, conservatives all too often sided with the Republican Party rather than their own principles. As I note in this week’s Time:

By the time George W. Bush arrived in Washington, the conservative movement had fully moved within the Republican Party. Conservative Democrats had walked across the aisle making bipartisan outreach unnecessary. By the the mid-point of George Bush’s Presidency, people were talking non-ironically about “big government conservatives,” which prior to Bill Clinton’s term would have been merely Republicans who put party ahead of principle.

As George Bush left office, conservatives who had seen his father put David Souter on the Supreme Court were championing Harriet Miers, fighting each other over immigration policy, supporting TARP, were okay with saving General Motors, and turning a polite blind eye to Bush’s claim that he had to kill the free market to save it.

Leaders and strong voices within the conservative movement have an obligation to speak up in favor of, so to speak, true north within conservative principles and then leave it to the politicians to decide how far away from true north they must drift to build a coalition to enact policy.

Debasing ourselves with silly defenses of Republicans along with a willingness to put party politics ahead of principle will, yet again, see voters rejecting conservatives. Groups like the American Conservative Union, the Heritage Foundation, etc. have all made mistakes and have usually had to repent. But in making those mistakes, they have opened up both conservatives and the Republican Party to temptation and temerity that ultimately caused collapse at the polls or ceding issues in debates. Look at the Heritage Foundation and healthcare mandates. Look at the Republican politicians who expand the federal government’s budget while hiding behind their ACU rating as proof that they are conservative.

The conservative movement has been sick for the past decade. The further it became absorbed within the Republican Party, the less it could shine with conservative ideas. It compromised with itself because it had become part of the Republican Party and was as much about the acquisition of political power as it was about advocating particular policy.

I am afraid supporting Mitt Romney will undo a lot of the repairs made to the conservative movement in the past few years. Already people are defending inherently not conservative ideas by calling them conservative. Already people are too willing to keep their mouth shut to do no harm to the party and, in the process, are doing harm to the intellectual capital built up within the conservative movement.

Ann Coulter’s defense of Romneycare, released on the same day Romney rejected years of conservative arguments against the social safety net and the welfare state, is a canary in the coal mine. We are returning to that point where the voters decided they could no longer trust conservatives to be principled.

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COMMENTS

  • Elpasoan

    Levin missed the point of the article. It was not meant to be a defense of Romneycare (the title is sarcastic). She is not advocating that Romneycare was a good idea or that it should be started in other states. She is pointing out that the assumption that Romneycare and Obamacare are the same is an incorrect one. One is unconstitutional and one is not. One is a 2000 page monstrosity and the other is not. She points out that in fact Romneycare has failed due to it being used as a structure by liberals to add measures that lead to redistribution of wealth and more government control of healthcare. So her conclusion is that it is a failure, but not even in the same ballpark as Obamacare. She also points out that in fact the mandate per se is not the worst part of Obamacare or Romneycare as it has been portrayed recently. It is the government control of healthcare.

    She also supports Romney despite his mistakes because she knows he is way better than Obama, that there is no reason to believe whatsoever that he will do nothing other than repeal Obamacare and he is the only candidate that can beat Obama in November (I agree with her on this 100%). She is dispelling the myths about a complicated issue so people can understand what happened more clearly and understand the history and not just assume he is the same as Obama, which could not be further from the truth.

  • creinstein

    I asked one to be my campaign manager. A man I would put up against Erick himself in a debate where they talked all issues…

    The man is a dictionary, almanac, and more all in one. He was the one man I looked up to for a decade.

    He wont touch our party. Ann Coulter, Mitt Romney, the 25% who are voting for Mitt…. they make him feel there is no hope, that the cancer is terminal.

    Mitt is a liberal, anyone who studies his history understand this. Electing him may actually break the Republican Party.

    And to think… We had the Democrats on the ropes… and now our Liberal 25% seek to break the party from the Conservative 50%.

  • http://www.whyromney.com Ryan Larsen
  • Adjoran

    Ask Tom Coburn how hilarious that is. Gingrich was deposed for overall incompetence more than his ethical failings, but conservatives were already dissatisfied with him after his first two -year term as Speaker.

    Read his address to Toffler’s institute, in which he suggests nations should surrender sovereignty in the “information wave,” and tell me again how he represents traditional conservative values.

    The jerk served with some 350 other Republicans on Capitol Hill over his 20 years in Congress, how many support him today? Why so few, and those not from the conservative wing?

    Every dime Newt’s made for the last 35 years has come from the federal government either directly or indirectly through influence-peddling or speaking fees and book sales resulting from his service in it. When he quit Congress after being tossed out as Speaker by conservatives, he didn’t go home to Georgia, did he? He bought a house in Northern Virginia and joined the revolving door of influence peddling former legislators.

    Gingrich has stabbed anyone who ever trusted him in the back as soon as he saw it expedient, with special glee when it was conservatives on the end of his dagger. His personal morality and integrity are shameful.

    Whether crusading for the individual mandate from 1993 – 2009, colluding with Gore and Pelosi to pass cap and trade, disparaging conservatives who supported Doug Hoffman in NY-23 right up to the very day Dede endorsed the Democrat, or trashing Ryan’s budget as “right wing social engineering,” Gingrich has built a record which is neither conservative nor honorable.

    If Gingrich is the leader of “the traditional alliance of conservatives with the GOP,” then the movement is dead.

    Fortunately he is not and never will be. He was the leader of the House insurgents who got in the Democrats’ faces and forced the leadership to be more aggressive, and finally to gain the Majority, but he was no leader as Speaker. No honest person who was there thought he was effective; on balance he was a drag on the conservatives, the Party, and the country with his egomaniacal meandering.

    Those are the facts, the reality. Those of us who were paying attention at the time won’t forget it all because of some scraps of red meat tossed in a debate or two.

  • obxster

    I keep hearing the argument that Romneycare is legal because it’s the state that is creating it and not the federal government. At the same time I read that the individual mandate is unconstitutional? Doesn’t the Constitution apply to states also? Is it unconstitutional because the government can force anyone to purchase something simply because they are alive?

  • http://www.doctor-bob.biz rsklaroff

    …because it rationalizes-away the hypocrisy of supporting RomneyCare.

    After suggesting [falsely] that Coulter was invoking irony, the conclusion ["...the mandate per se is not the worst part of Obamacare or Romneycare as it has been portrayed recently; it is the government control of healthcare"] contradicts that assumption.

    The worst part of both is the federal/state-level [choose one] government control of healthcare.

    One would think that this fundamental point would have become engrained @ RS by now, but it appears those who are candibots will stoop to anything to discern how to live with themselves.

  • wbf

    nt

  • http://www.doctor-bob.biz rsklaroff

    …because it amalgamates all of Mitt’s deviant quotations.

    The question that arises is what to do about it; having observed the intensity of the GOP-Establishment’s attack on The Newt [coupled with the Senate vote rejecting an earmark-ban], the engrained-powers appear formidable.

    I look @ the CPAC schedule…
    http://cpac2012.conservative.org/wp-content/uploads/2012/01/Schedule-Of-Events_Latest.pdf
    …and I see it infested with Elliott Abrams [he of the recent anti-Newt, totally-debunked hit-piece].

    I was invited tonight to attend it with my cousin; I respectfully declined–preferring to watch it on CSPAN–because so many other infestations can easily be ID’ed on the schedule.

    On a day when The Donald endorsed the Massachusetts-Gaffer, and the presumptive-Nevada TPM-leader endorsed the Earnest-Spender, all I receive via e-mail are lamentations regarding the Perry Campaign; the “et tu, Brute” nature to many RS-postings provides more questions than answers.

    F. Scott Fitzgerald may have provided insight [in this last-line]: “Gatsby believed in the green light, the orgastic future that year by year recedes before us. It eluded us then, but that’s no matter — tomorrow we will run faster, stretch out our arms farther. … And one fine morning —- So we beat on, boats against the current, borne back ceaselessly into the past.”

  • mikelindell2

    Not to sound too dramatic, but it’s true. Big spending under W, moderate McCain, then liberal Mitt. Something has to be done, Newt must be our nominee. What’s the rationale for Mitt, he’s not electable, and even if a miracle happens and he wins, it will be worthless because he will be almost identical to Obama and will no way fight for the necessary things for this country to recover. I disagree on one point, Newt CAN claim he’s the true conservative; he’s actually the only real, proven one left.

  • streiff

    she was on Hannity yesterday making the same points in a non-ironic manner.

  • streiff

    nt

  • mikelindell2

    He stabbed HW Bush in the back when Bush wanted to raise taxes, if that’s what you mean. How can you look at Newt’s record as speaker and not see it as anything but true conservative success.

  • Elpasoan

    then how is it that Mark Levin, Sean Hannity and Rush all supported Romney in 2008 (Not sure if Erickson did). How is it that there was barely a word about Romneycare at that time and, if there was, the mandate was not seen as the biggest transgression against conservatism that hand ever existed. I’m not saying that it has always been supported by conservatives, but the approach to the mandate suddenly drastically changed once the mandate aspect of Obamacare became the central argument against the constitutionality of Obamacare.

    I personally don’t support a mandate. I think Romneycare was a mistake and Obamacare is a disaster. I do support Romney because is the most electable candidate and an imperfect but better than acceptable candidate. If given a choice, I would prefer Santorum, but I worry about his electability. Newt would be a disaster as a candidate and I frankly don’t think he would be a very good President (although infinitely better than Obama.)

    I’m not worried about Romneycare becoming federal law. I believe Romney when he says he will do everything in his power to repeal Obamacare and I think he will likely be the most conservative president since Reagan. I understand the political reasons he can not just do a 180 on Romneycare at this time. It would look weak, be another flip flop and be disloyal to allies of his in MA. I’m sure he has his regrets about it no doubt and regrets what has happened to it since he left.

    Keep in mind. He will appoint conservative judges. He will protect life. He will maintain a strong military. He has the ability to turn situations around. He is a very decent person. He is our best hope, in my opinion, of beating Obama.

  • http://www.doctor-bob.biz rsklaroff

    …but the key-point remains that those who seek big-government solutions are contradicting fundamental conservatism.

  • The_Gadfly

    hear. If it doesn’t make logical sense to you, don’t buy it.

    Federalism is perceived as a conservative issue because all conservatives want to at least devolve back to the states numerous functions that have been amalgamated at the federal level. They have been gathered there because people believe the objectives ought to be sought, and since private and state governments have been unable to attain them, they have to be moved to the federal level. It soothes the ego for people who don’t want to confront the fundamental issues of whether the issues can be addressed at either level of government from a constitutional perspective, or even more fundamentally, whether they can effectively be addressed at any level.

  • The_Gadfly

    The question now is whetheer she can recognize it and correct it. Having watched his fall, my prognostication for her isn’t good. Not good at all.

  • elayman

    Now he believes the health-care program was the ?right thing? for the state then and that the mandate is an expression of bedrock conservative principles. Any support Mitt got from actual the Republican base four years ago came late and took the form of a conservative alternative to ‘anyone but McCain’.

    At least we can admit we were wrong. Whether the people of MA wanted it or not is irrelevant. It’s a bad law, a bad idea, and Romney is still in full throated support of it.

  • http://www.doctor-bob.biz rsklaroff

    …that it would easily be debunked by a “Debate 101″ student.

    Also referenced is specific discussion of the Individual Mandate…
    http://www.whyromney.com/truth-about-mandates.php
    …which rationalizes-away by selectively invoking the Founders/Framers.

    The SSS-system is invoked, without recognizing that it is tethered directly to the Congressional mandate that the “Common Defense” be a pivotal Federal Government goal [and that the law allows for exceptions that were widely exploited during the Vietnam War].

    The Commerce clause is invoked, yielding phraseology that undoubtedly has been submitted to the SCOTUS by BHO ["...mandate to purchase health care goods falls within that limited scope of the commerce clause...."].

    @ the risk of automatically “losing” the argument by invoking Nazi-Germany, the next defense ["Individual liberty within a society comes from the strength of the society. The interests of that society, therefore, are a responsibility of each citizen."] is strangely reminiscent of the quote over the Auschwitz Gate [" Arbeit macht frei ("work makes free")."].

    And, gutting the black-letter lingo of the 10th Amendment, this is followed by a conclusory limitation ["The question is whether the sacrifices required to secure liberty are to be properly determined at a state level or a federal level."] without recognizing that the admonition ends by empowering the individual ["The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, OR TO THE PEOPLE."].

    Next, citing polling-data that are refuted by news-reports of such gigantic cost-overruns that a gubernatorial fee-mandate looms, we have a non-referenced assertion ["In the case of Massachusetts health care, Romney's approach continues to be popular in the state, as it has always been, and has proven effective even with the costly provisions Romney vetoed which the legislature overrode, and even with the costly changes enacted after Romney left. 75% of Massachusetts residents are satisfied with it, and that fact alone should tell residents of other states to mind their own affairs."].

    As I wrote a few days ago, I x-examined Romney @ a makeshift press conference when he endorsed Toomey and, after he invoked federalism, he claimed his veto would have been “answered” by a single-payer system; he chose to avoid that threat. This assertion was debunked when I called John Gibson’s radio-show and by many prominent [contemporary] videos. This recollection therefore debunks another factual-misrepresentation ["...the choice Romney faced was between mandates and bailouts...."].

    *

    Nothing is more venal [as Santorum's book would attest] to equating The Family with The Government, to wit:

    “Lastly, we would be remiss not to mention the role of mandates at the most ‘local’ level of society: the individual family unit. Families impose sweeping mandates on children ranging from how they spend money, when they go to bed, what they eat, what they wear, what type of job they may have, where they live, who they may associate with, etc.

    “Essentially, states grant parents nearly complete control over the lives of their children in regulating and mandating practices which society finds tolerable. This literally constitutes a state mandate that one person must conform to the subjective will of another. We whole-heartedly embrace this mandate power exercised by states, because we believe it defers to the natural order of family as fundamental and therefore serves a greater good. But next to this type of mandate, which we all accept, the mandate to purchase health insurance (or face minor penalty) pales.”

    Yeah right. “States grant Parents.” The rest is commentary.

    *

    The only missing argument was the attempt to create a link between the Individual Mandate and the necessity to purchase a Driver’s License; I suppose it’s somewhat comforting that we don’t have to trot-out the argument that everyone need not use an automobile vs. everyone must breathe.

    Historical Revisionism should be beneath us, eh?

  • sophillyjimmy

    My first presidential election as a voter my vote went to Richard Nixon who as se know won the election only to be shamed out of office for not being a snitch. President Nixon lied for his people and for his standing up for them he was forced to resign from office.
    Being from Philadelphia I switched parties only to vote in the primariies for the great late Frank L. Rizzo who was a running as a Democrat but was truly a conservative Republican and all the Republican’s stood for. After he was elected I switched back to being a Republican and was considered a rebel since I worked as a prison guard for the City of Philadelphia. I knew by doing so I would be ok because Mayor Rizzo as a Democratic Mayor endorsed Nixon. I also knew that I was throwing my career away since no Republican won a Mayoral race in Philadelphia since the 1940′s but I stayed true to the party and was even labeld a racist because of it.
    I was the youngest prison guard to ever get promoted to sergeant during Rizzo’s tenure as Mayor and I did not use politics, I just came out number 1 on the Civil Service test. After Rizzo left office, another Democrat, Mayor Green won the office and he hired a moron named Willie Wilson Goode as the cities Managing Director who was then elected as Mayor of Philadelphia, overnight the city became the most racist administration I have ever seen, the blacks flaunted that they ran the city and I was passed over twice after coming out number 1 when taking the Lieutenants Civil Service test, and ironically, the first time I was passed over it was for a black candidate who was arrested for raping a 14 year old girl and then a year later had to cop a plea of guilty and resigned, but I stayed faithful to the Republican Party, it was not only to be rebellious but to show I could not be bought now would I follow a corrupt city or prison administration. After working in a prison system that was a good system for the 3 years under Mayor Rizzo’s leadership, I worked 12 more years under the worse mental and physical conditions an American could within his own country but I was stuck since I had 2 children to raise and a house to pay for. It is unbelievable to say but I was severely injured in a prison riot and it was the best thing that could have happened to me, even though Mayor W.Wilson Goode said the city could not pay for anyone disabled on the job, I managed to survive financially for 3 years until I told my plight to the local newspapers then mysteriously, a day after the article came out in the newspapers, I was called to come and get my retroactive check for the 3 years I was disabled then a monthly check for 12 years.
    My point being, there must be loyalty to the party or it will perish, and all I see is a fractured party who is every man for himself instead of attacking the real enemy who is in the White House right now and will be for 4 more years unless we conservaives regroup and fight the true enemy of not only the Party but to America.
    I would endorse Ron Paul which I know is not the parties choice, but he believes in America and there are not any skeletons in his closet, but whoever wins the primaries, will could not and will not beat Obama in November as long as they keep attacking each other, Obama has over a billion dollars in his campaign fund and since he has nothing but corruption, lies, fraud, and the destruction of the Constitution to campaign on he will merely attack his opponent with the ammo thed Republican party supplied to him.

  • btpull

    As long as anyone can walk into any emergency room complaining about any aliment and get treatment we should require some sort of financial obligation. In other words if there are no barriers to participate in the system you should be required to make a minimum contribution to the system.

    On the other hand if we as society want to deny emergency room treatment to the uninsured then a mandate is not required. The real problems are insurance companies have monopolies or oligopolies in states, insurance companies are required to cover this or that (I guess this is the price they are willing to pay for monopoly protection), Doctors are told how much they can charge for this service or that service, and the costs related to malpractice lawsuit fears. Fixing these problems will dramatically lower the cost of insurance making a mandate requirement a mute point.

  • renl57

    Erickson: “It is free market economics 101 that a free market requires that individuals have the right to opt-out of a transaction.”

    What you and a lot of other conservatives don’t understand is that in MA as in all other states, that option is no longer available. It’s gone.

    By *federal law* (COBRA, signed by President Reagan in 1986), no hospital can deny treatment to anyone regardless of their ability to pay. Hospitals have to scramble to find ways to pay for that.

    That means that a free market in health care is already dead, gone, that ship has sailed.

    The result was a lot of MA residents who gamed the system: Why bother purchasing health insurance for acute illness when an Emergency Room is required to treat such illness anyway?

    RomneyCare was an attempt to moderate the distortions in the health care system already mandated by the Federal Government. As long as those distortions exist, there will need to be state government interventions to moderate those distortions.

    Let me repeat:

    There is no longer any free market in health care, thanks to Federal action. We’re stuck with that reality.

    COBRA, mandates on treatment, Medicare, Medicaid, and countless other interventions all have market distortions that ripple down to the state and even the local level. State and local governments can’t just take a hands-off attitude because their own communities’ economies are being adversely affected.

  • Elpasoan

    He said there were compromises made and described them (consistently says that now and in 2008). His support of it has not changed since 2008. He says it in more of a defensive tone and not a “full throated support of it.” Believe me, I’m sure he has his regrets.

    Really, it’s irrelevant now what really happened and what he really thinks of it. It would be political suicide for him to do anything other than what he says he is going to do now. I admit, he does not have a long history of deep conservative thought. I think he has developed his ideology over time and has not spent his life in politics. I know that upsets many people, but I think he is the best we have and he does have many good attributes. I now that some can’t accept that, but maybe they would be unconsciously happier with a united conservative party with Obama in his second term. I think there is too much at stake to to risk an Obama second term.

  • http://www.doctor-bob.biz rsklaroff

    Buried herein is the following climax:

    “I understand the political reasons he can not just do a 180 on Romneycare at this time. It would look weak, be another flip flop and be disloyal to allies of his in MA. I?m sure he has his regrets about it no doubt and regrets what has happened to it since he left.”

    We have a combo of political-rationalization and positive-mindread, yielding a foregone conclusion. Romneybots can’t survive @ RS if they trot-out threadbare arguments; defend “electability” in light of the accumulated unforced-error zingers, or admit this is hardly a gimme [as has been the meme among those in the MSM/LSM/ELM[.

    Mitt survives because of the GOP-Establishment, not because he's conservative [ref. Rush...pick a day]; he would pare-down D.C., not transform it [ ? la Perry...and ? la The Newt, by extension].

    Deal with it, and then get back to us, OK?

  • renl57

    Suppose YOU became governor of a state faced with the same problem MA had: Free-riders gaming the system, using Emergency Rooms for their “free” acute health care, forcing their costs onto everyone else, from providers to insurance companies to companies to individual residents.

    What would YOU suggest doing about it? You can’t defy the COBRA mandate, those people have to get treatment.

    So whom would YOU force to pay for that treatment? Because someone will have to–hospitals and doctors don’t work for free.

  • http://impudent.edublogs.org/ kyle8

    I vote Republican only because the Democrats are odious race baiting, class warfare, big government fascists. The Republican party is not really a whole lot better, When they are in office as we saw in the first six years of the Bush administration they spend like drunken sailors and overreact to terror attacks thus getting us bogged down in wars or put useless restraints on our travel and personal lives.

    Your hero, Richard Nixon was not brought down because he was loyal. He was brought down because he was a paranoid liar. He was also absolutely the BIGGEST liberal RINO there ever was. He did not meet a single Great Society program that he didn’t make bigger, Plus he created some big government of his own, like the EPA.

    If it comes down to a vote between a Democrat and another Richard Nixon, I would pick the Democrat because I would want them to take the blame for inacting liberal policies.

    This time we don’t have to worry about that because IMO all three of the remaining viable candidate would be less liberal than Obama, and probably less liberal than G W Bush.

  • http://www.doctor-bob.biz rsklaroff

    [...and that the world would be ideal if everyone were Christian?]

    I loved her books and her appearances until that radio interview with Danny Deutsch.

    http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,301216,00.html

    “Slash-and-burn columnist Ann Coulter shocked a cable TV talk-show audience Monday when she declared that Jews need to be ‘perfected’ by becoming Christians, and that America would be better off if everyone were Christian.”

    I then cancelled automatic receipt of her column from Human Events…and I haven’t looked back.

    Her hypocrisy is reflected in that of other conservative bloggers; indeed, when confronted with this question, a friend advised that a quality-reference may be found @ http://www.therightscoop.com/.

    This again reflects dismay, translated into insufficient motivation to drive/train to D.C. to hear a panoply of CPAC-leaders; perhaps this is a component of the post-Perry mourning process….

  • mikelindell2

    You do know the whole country has that problem, and that was Obama’s explanation for the mandate. So you must be on board for national mandate.

  • http://www.doctor-bob.biz rsklaroff

    As a lifelong resident in suburban-Philly, I can attest to the narrative-history of the mayoral occupants [skipping over Street, thankfully] provided “from the trenches.”

    As an individual who was a Watergate-Freak, I can attest to the problems created by Milhouse.

    But, allow myself a “rebound” support for a neo-isolationist Paul, nor can I support a D as a target for assigning retroactive-blame.

    The SCOTUS [etc.] would be completely transformed, for our lifetimes.

    This would be intolerable, and it is why scrupulous attention to the RS-mandate that the GOP not be spurned…is vital.

  • Elpasoan

    I thought we were having a respectful conversation. I will continue to respect your views and hope you will respect mine.

    The polls are are evidence that Romney is the most electable of the group. I also don’t believe that swing voters in swing states are going to accept Perry and especially Newt. They both are very poor general election candidates. Perry is, believe it or not, not very well liked in Texas as much as he should be in this red of a state. Perry is a below average communicator.

    Please give me your opinion as to why you think Perry and Newt would be more electable with supporting evidence. If you reference Reagan’s comeback in 1980, I’m not buying it. Newt is a know quantity nationally and is not well liked. His mannerisms are not qualities that my aunt who lives in OH and has no real political philosophy would admire.

  • http://www.doctor-bob.biz rsklaroff

    There is nothing Constitutional allowing government imposition, regardless of the rationale being trotted-out.

    Emergency care is provided under Hill-Burton/EMTALA, and it doesn’t begin to cover the true costs of the un-/under-insured.

    Whatever the perceived problem has been regarding the insurers [and I sued the Blues to forestall their consolidation in PA, so I am quite aware of their potency], it pales in comparison to the inability to assail anything Medicare [government-monopoly] implements.

    The rest of this essay is also misleading, for physicians should not be “told” anything fiscal in a free-market system…and med-mal rates are often tethered to the Dow-Jones.

    Thus, it is hardly a “moot point” to supplant the Individual Mandate with enhanced interstate competition, etc.

  • kegan05

    The Federal Government does not. States have all kinds of mandates: Car Insurance, Vaccinations for school children, etc. The Federal Government cannot Mandate that the citizens of this country HAVE to buy anything.

    Hopefully the SCOTUS Decision will be back in May or June.

  • http://www.doctor-bob.biz rsklaroff

    …when it is actually more flexible [and could be liberated further].

    “That ship has sailed,” perhaps, but there is no reason why it can’t be returned to port.

    Rationalizing imposition of an Individual Mandate “to moderate the distortions” was not the only available remedy, as other states behaviorally noted.

    It seems you Romney-rationalizers require policing here on RS….

  • http://www.doctor-bob.biz rsklaroff

    …but, to repeat…whatever the states feel they can mandate for selective facets of life [matched with responsibility] cannot be expanded to include arbitrarily forcing everyone who breathes to pay for that reflex/human/”mandated”-to-remain-alive activity.

  • davedix

    >>> Gingrich will hold the banner of the traditional alliance of conservatives with the GOP.Gingrich will hold the banner of the traditional alliance of conservatives with the GOP.

    This makes no no no sense at all. Gingrich is not at all conservative! Have you looked into his history? What he’s supported? He’s LESS conservative than Romney (who is not that conservative). Colonies on the moon? Is that the least bit conservative? Global warming? Ethanol subsidies (which even Al Gore doesn’t believe in)? Freddie Mac? Supporting Obamacare (which Romney never did – Andrew Sullivan published the audio of Newt on this a few days ago) Calling Paul Ryan radical “right-wing social engineering”? (That alone should throw him out of conservatism.)

    Not to mention all the other moral stuff (not just the divorces and cheating; the lying in the debates about being paid 300K by Freddie Mac when within 24 hours we discovered it was 1.6M; or promising he would build a moon base in eight years, promised Cuban-Americans a violent uprising to take down the Castro regime, and even accused Mr. Romney of taking kosher food from the mouths of Holocaust survivors. etc etc).

    And in terms of manner, he’s repugnant. His attack on John Roberts – calling Roberts “despicable” is downright despicable itself. (He was right lashing back at Williams, but Newt tries to play the media card as much as OJ played the race card, and so he end up looking like a loser and a liar, and discrediting REAL conservatives.)

    Gingrich is NOT AT ALL conservative, and he certainly, certainly isn’t the standard bearer for “traditional conservatives.” Unless by that you mean, like, you, and you alone.

  • http://www.doctor-bob.biz rsklaroff

    Expunge from memory all the MSM/LSM/ELM compilations of Perry-quotes [from "Ponzi" thru "Oops!"] and recall everything that transpired during the SECOND-HALF of the campaign [and, in particular, the debates].

    You have prescience on Monroe Doctrine, Turkey, Bloated-D.C., Flat-Tax, etc. … ideas that competitors almost immediately corroborated.

    He became a great-candidate, and merited a second look. The question you must answer [in addition to replying to this pivotal observation] is why he was denied that opportunity by all our favorite pundits.

  • davedix

    Makes me happy to see some sanity here. What *happened* to Erick Erickson, that he thinks Gingrich is conservative? I hope this doesn’t become a recurring thing. I spent a lot of time in 2004 wondering what HAPPENED to Andrew Sullivan. Eventually, I gave up on him. Sullivan still calls himself conservative. Maybe he and Erickson should get together and talk about it.

  • jiminga

    has become like Alan Colmes support for Obama. They both lack reason and their discussions are put forward like robots. I have always liked Ann (Alan is just plain creepy) but cannot fathom her new religion of Romneyism. She has become a one trick pony and I’m sure many, like me, have begun to just ignore her as a voice of conservatism.

  • http://www.doctor-bob.biz rsklaroff

    He has encompassed the views of Perry and Cain operationally [via task-forces] and now embodies the anti-Establishment views of the previously-energized TEA Party Movement.

    Polling is fickle; assuming the chasm between the two ends of the party [discussed last night by Krauthammer] would be bridged by The Newt, the absence of ongoing acrimony could attract the mainstream-GOP to a man who articulates fundamental Conservative values].

    Your jabs against the presumed like-ability of Perry/The Newt is therefore subject to a dynamic that would necessitate the provision of quality messaging without employing either the MSM/LSM/ELM or the dishonest pundits who have become unmasked during recent months as shilling for DC-insider/RINO’s.

  • http://www.doctor-bob.biz rsklaroff

    …as per Rush, Michael Reagan, and Herman Cain.

  • radicalrighty

    Don’t hold your breath.

    Newt is no Perry. Newt got rich in DC. Newt is part of the culture.

    Not saying Mitt will transform anything in DC – but al least he didn’t enrich himself there.

  • kegan05

    I cannot agree with you more on Newt Gingrich. It is a mystery to me how people can close their eyes and hold their hands over their ears, chanting “la la la la la la la !”

    Newt Gingrich is NOT a Conservative. He is an opportunistic slug who is trying to ride on Reagan’s coattails. He is on YouTube describing himself as a “Wilsonian Progressive,” a Progressive Republican and a Rockefeller Republican. He is on record declaring that our sacred Constitution is “obsolete!” What does it take to wake people up? Barack Obama has said the same thing!

    In 1990 Gingrich endorsed and wrote the Forward for Alvin Toffler’s book, “Creating a New Civilization,” that called for our governing system to “die and be replaced.” Shades of Barack Obama and his “fundamentally transforming America.”

    Newt has advocated Gun Control Legislation and believes in Federal Mandates. He is a big government guy who believes the seats of power are in a large centralized government.

    I cringe every time I hear someone calling Newt a “true conservative.” They obviously haven’t done their homework.

    All these video’s can be seen on YouTube. I doubt if anyone who is fixed on Newt will take the time. This is how we got Comrade Obozo! How pathetic.

  • http://impudent.edublogs.org/ kyle8

    The point is that he is all over the place. He has literally taken positions that directly contradict themselves dozens of times.

    The guy has diarrhea of the mouth, he can’t shut up and spews out the first thing that pops into his megalomaniacal head.

  • http://www.doctor-bob.biz rsklaroff

    …so it is justifiable to hope he would implement his battle-plan.

  • http://www.doctor-bob.biz rsklaroff

    …that Mitt would only DREAM [no pun intended] of enacting.

  • mirac777

    Self-grandeurizing, arrogant and supporting RomneyCare all in one paragraph. Who made you the all-knowledgable king for the day in here?

  • radicalrighty

    Yep, ole Newt is a reincarnation of Reagan.

  • btpull

    If you allow people to participate in the system without paying for the system you will just get a bunch of free riders. Imagine a commuter rail system that did not check passengers for tickets either at the gate or on the train.

    We also have government intervention into the system (as I listed) that are artificially drive up the costs. Fix these costs and the economics of health care we fix the overall problem that healthcare insurance is basically unaffordable for most people outside of employer provided policies. Fixing the costs and the economics will draw more people into the system naturally reducing the need for a mandate.

  • http://impudent.edublogs.org/ kyle8

    Romney is not a great candidate nor a great conservative. But his ability to veto as well as compromise with a very very liberal legislature in Mass. shows that he has some ability to govern.

    His background as a businessman and a problem solver makes him head and shoulders above Obama.

    And I think he is smart enough to see that we have to get a handle on this wild spending and he will at least try to do that, He has shown that he is a good campaigner and he will attack Obama in the general, with a pretty fair chance of winning.

    So, while certainly not my first choice I think he has a good chance of A, winning, and B. being at least fiscally more conservative than our last republican president.

  • kegan05

    I wish all the Newt freaks would look up his old YouTube video’s and watch them. They are very enlightening and down-right scary.

    Newt is a very complex, conflicted man and his ramblings on these Video’s is proof that he is unfit to LEAD this nation.

  • snappy101

    If the next President and Congress just fiddles with Obamacare instead of repealing it, it will be back again in the future. Romney says he’ll give waivers to all of the states on Day One. Big Bleepin’ Deal! It will be roaring back with the next Democrat president or the next Big Government RINO.

    Who says Romney is the Most Electable and what is it based on? His stint as a one term governor? The “everybody else is lousy, too” factor but he has the money to go the distance. Fox News beat the drum for his electability after the other potential brides the Republican Machine was courting said “no.” Then the peeps who answer the polls parroted the FNC mantra at which time FNC then pointed to those polls as “proof” that he’s Most Electable. The way I see it, the most electable Republican is Generic Republican and the only thing “he” has going for him is he never debated, didn’t take Wall Street money, Bill Kristol, Frank Luntz and Karl Rove never came out for him and Dick Morris never predicted old Generic as the 2012 winner.

    Does anyone trust Romney with Supreme Court nominations? The only thing you can be sure of with Romney is that within hours, days, weeks, months, years he’ll have the opposite stance. It’s not that he’s liberal or conservative, it’s that he’s been both of them depending on which way the wind is blowing.

    Oh yeah, Ann Coulter is dead to me.

  • mirac777

    Governor, or politician/power broker who accomplished what Gingrich did as far as the conservative meovement besides Reagan? All of a sudden the Mass. Moderate is supposed to be the next great conservative freedom fighter. Facts shoot down a heck of a lot of baseless rhetoric and parroting in here.Including the Doc.

  • http://impudent.edublogs.org/ kyle8

    until he changes his mind, about 24 hours into office.

  • creinstein

    Et tu Radicalrighty? Come to stab conservatives in the back huh?

  • http://www.doctor-bob.biz rsklaroff

    The Newt may be many things, but he’s hardly a “slug”!

    What emerges is both the track-record of the latter [well-known in these parts] and his having championed conservatism. What doesn’t emerge is anything near either criterion, by the former.

    As Wonkish1 and JSobieski would attest, I fleshed-out vigorously his support for an Individual Mandate; unlike Mitt, it has been supplanted. [Mitt would immediately issue a 50-state waiver, The Newt would immediately repeal ObamaCare; this reflects their fundamental split.]

    The inappropriate attacks [Elliott Abrams, in particular] reflected a coordinated effort [reminiscent of what occurred in Iowa, by both Mitt and the GOP-Establishment]; the more they try to defend their turf, the more aggressively one is motivated to react.

    Rush keeps saying Mitt is not a conservative; he doesn’t repeat this admonition regarding The Newt. Does that suggest….

  • http://impudent.edublogs.org/ kyle8

    in the years since that time he has flitted all around Washington, insulting and attacking republicans. Saying sometimes left wing things, sometimes just crazy things, and selling his influence to the highest bidder.

    Funny how 30 years of that sort of thing can cost you politically.

  • http://www.doctor-bob.biz rsklaroff

    Government has no RIGHT to think it can PERMIT people to do anything.

    I carry health insurance, but not because i’m forced to do so.

    Where in the Constitution have “We, The People” ceded such control to a central government?

  • http://www.doctor-bob.biz rsklaroff

    …but this doesn’t negate cogent appreciation of the current forces at-play.

    Mitt’s achievements as governor are difficult to square with conservatism, whereas The Newt has been an RR-conservative throughout his career [vacillating, granted].

    INCLUDING the moon-colony point [recognizing it is tethered to the public/private partnership idea], is there ANYTHING he said during the prior 19 debates that was inherently liberal?

  • http://impudent.edublogs.org/ kyle8

    supporting Mitt MIGHT end up being a mistake, time will tell.

    But supporting Newt would certainly be a monumental mistake along the lines of Richard Nixon. Because of his deeply flawed character.

    But, only if he gets elected. Which cannot happen I am convinced because his negatives to independents are astronomical.

    The reason for that is because anyone without right wing ideological blinders on can see his deep character flaws,

  • http://www.doctor-bob.biz rsklaroff

    …when she appears on Red-Eye; GG appeared to tolerate her, although she hasn’t returned for a few weeks now.

  • renny

    both a little hypocrisy and a little impurity, but if we elect MORE tea party people to the House and Senate, the Rep,. Party will follow.

    I was a Perry supporter and am sorry his run did not ignite the primary electorate as it could have, but I will accept Mitt, work for him, send him money, and campaign tirelessly to elect a Rep., whether as perfectly cons. as some would demand or not, because ANY Rep., even Ron Paul, would be better for the US than another o administration and his cronyism and corrupt and anti-American and anti-business appointees and rule by exec. order and regulatory fiat.

  • radicalrighty

    I just find the “Newt the conservative” remarks funny. Seems a bunch of folks have short memories regarding Newt.

    Truth is, there is no one remotely, truely conservative left in the race for us. There wouldn’t be one iota of difference in a Newt or a Mitt Administration.

  • kegan05

    But I agree with you that Mitt will very likely get a lot done because, like Reagan, he will reach across the aisle. I think it can be done without compromising one’s core principles. I remember Reagan and Tip O’Neal having a drink together after a day of negotiating and compromise. Reagan always said 2/3′s of a loaf was better than none.

    I think the Hard Right will scream and the Far Left will do the same. But we HAVE to get this country moving forward again. Mitt knows how to do it. I was a Reagan Democrat who became a Republican after the DNC started filling up with Socialists, Marxists and Commie Nutwads. I have become more conservative as I have grown older but I realize we can’t get everything we want. It just doesn’t work that way.

  • kegan05

    NOT bothered to do any research on The Newt.

    It’s all there for anyone to see, it they bother to look for it.

    YouTube is an easy source.

    Don’t know why so many prominent conservatives are so ignorant about The Newt.

  • renl57

    …is how you build political capital to do other things. Such as sign into law more conservatives initiatives coming out of a GOP-controlled Congress.

    Nothing succeeds like success. Most voters aren’t ideologues. They don’t care as much about ideology as they do about results.

    If Romney is able to cut the unemployment rate down to 6% and restore economic growth of 4-5% annually–at which Obama utterly failed–folks will say “Those Republicans are doing a good job, let’s keep them in office.”

    The best thing Reagan did to sell conservatism wasn’t to give soaring speeches justifying conservatism. It was to deliver results, making the country more prosperous and stronger in the world than it had been during his predecessor’s administration.

  • runner12

    I know that this makes people uncomfortable because the desire to beat Obama is so strong. But if we are not intellectually honest, we lose all credibility with Indepedents and even conservative Democrats. More importantly we lose credibility among our fellow conservatives.

    We cannot go back to the Bush years, defending policies that were clearly not conservative. It makes us look like mindless party hacks, instead of people of principle.

    To those who shamelessly threadjacked with attacks on Newt, read the diary again. It was not about lauding Newt as the great Conservative leader, because he is not. It is about Coulter and others selling out their principles to defend the indefensible. All in a poor attempt to prop up Romney. That is shameful.

  • renl57

    Female Independent voters will not vote for him. Period. His personal history turns them right off.

    Look at the results in FL: Romney beat him even among female *Republican* voters by 22 points. In a recent NBC/WSJ poll, Obama beats Gingrich by 30 points among women; 60-31. With that much of a gender gap, Gingrich could never win the general.

    And he can’t fix that with speeches. His personal history is public record.

  • runner12

    It is not free! They just do not pay the money and hospitals get saddled with the costs.

    The individual mandate IS the problem. It is unconstitutional.

  • renl57

    …you will find how many folks here on RS last spring and summer had dismissed Newt’s candidacy as irrelevant and doomed.

    (Just search for “Gingrich May 2011″ and “Gingrich June 2011″)

    Back then, everyone was expecting Perry to get into the race. IIRC, at that time we had NO Newt supporters on RS last summer, none.

    That proves that Newt is not the enthusiastic choice of anyone on RS. He’s the *desperate* choice of folks on RS who seem to be just as desperate to stop Romney as they are to stop Obama.

    To me, that’s really strange.

  • kegan05

    You make a lot of sense…Sounds good to me.

    I am eager to get going….Come on, November.

  • runner12

    Three things would help our health care system.

    A. Tort reform

    B. Allow people to buy insurance across state lines. The more competition, the lower the price.

    C. Give hospitals greater power to collect the money from those that use the ER for primary care services. Encourage them to direct people to AM/PM clinics.. The law says that you cannot turn people away, not that you cannot charge people.

  • creinstein

    I was supporting Cain myself.

    We all had our choices.

    Just when Perry beamed on the first debate (or 2nd?) and answered a question about educating illegals… with a full twinkle in his eye, and his most strongest confident moment before a mike in all the debates and said he was proud to educate the illegal aliens and help them become contributors to Texas’s economy… he made me puke.

    I always hoped for Palin also.

    But I strongly affirm, if either Obama or Mitt win… we will nose dive economically, never remove Obamacare (unless Supremes invalidate it for us this Summer), we will get more socialists in the courts, and more socialist policies.

    Newt at least will 100% avoid any liberal judges.

  • bobguzzardi

    Newt Gingrich is not conservative and “flawed” is polite. The point of the support is that, because Rick Perry is not in the race, there is no real conservative.

  • bobguzzardi

    This is the reality and the focus needs to shift to House and Senate.

  • tercel

    Newt goes off the reservation sometimes with his ideas. But Romney lives off the reservation. Romney’s instincts are not conservative and he is an elitist. That does not make him a bad person. It just makes him out of touch. He will lose to Obama in November and at least with Newt, you would have conservative ideas defended. Romney can’t defend conservatism because he fundamentally does not believe in it. He is a “manage the decline” sort of guy. He and the others who have already made their money and position will survive and prosper either way. It is those in the middle class, our children’s future to grow and prosper that will be destroyed if Romney or Obama are allowed to be President.

  • cwfoster

    I honestly can’t say I ever supported any candidate in any election before this year! I voted for the guy I liked, talked them up to my friends, but never volunteered for any campaigns, never donated money. EE inspired me after the 2008 debacle and I started researching my central committeemen and picked the candidate I thought was the one to back. Turns out, one of the central committeemen was the State Director for Team Cain as a happy coincidence. When Cain fell victim to the David Axlerod/Gloria Allred rope-a-dope, I drifted and before I could definitively choose which compromise I would settle on my choices were thinned out . Bachman droppedbut I was leaning towards Perry anyway then Perry. Newt was the only one left. He’s not conservative, but he’s a fighter. Romney’s not a conservative, he’s a negotiator. In lieu of a GOOD candidate, we need the best tool for the job at hand. They are both most assuredly tools (yes, I mean it that way) but if you need a hammer a saw won’t do. On FreedomTorch.com, I got caught up in a major debate over Romney vs. Newt, and was repeatedly accused of ignoring Newts faults while bashing Romney, by a guy who was continually bashing Newt for things Romney had done as well. I had an epiphany then. I had considered for a long time that if we can’t fix what’s wrong with the GOP, it may be time to start a Conservative Party from the ground up. I don’t advocate swapping horses midstream, but since we are reduced to arguing over the lesser of two evils THIS EARLY in the primary cycle, I can’t help but wonder if the GOP is salvageable, or if it’s totally FUBAR. Now I’m definitely leaning towards FUBAR! BUT, we need to attend to lessons learned. A new party would need to have as a part of it’s very charter a double convention system whereby before the primaries began, each incumbent would have to justify their voting record. In the event one was found to be too ideologically heretical, they would be d-certified and barred by court injunction from using any reference to party affiliation in the upcoming election. This would prevent the RINO problem from ever becoming an issue. I wouldn’t try starting this at this point in time, but in December, it may be time to try and get ready in case there’s anything left to save after a second Obama term!

  • streiff

    we wouldn’t have time to do anything really important… like posting on a blog that people actually read.

    If you don’t want to follow the trajectory of other noxious Rombots I’d suggest you modify your behavior. Just because your guy may be the nominee doesn’t mean your participation here is a sure thing. If you want to call Erick out, do it on your own blog. You do it again here and I’ll show you the door. Ask your mouthbreathing brother if you don’t believe me.

  • elayman

    Morph everything he says into what you want to hear but It just gets worse. His number one strength is his ?business acumen?. If he also gets the minimum wage wrong at the outset what other economic policies will he get wrong?

    If Mitt had a conservative record of job creation and cutting government spending this wouldn’t be a campaign outspending Newt 5-to-1 with millions on negative misIeading ads (which won’t begin to work against Obama).

  • circlegranch

    as a media hack, using the same twisted logic of the Left: no matter how ridiculous you will appear,no matter the cost to freedom and liberty, no matter what–always defend your guy. If Romney loses in November, Ms. Ann will write a book about how its the fault of the Tea Party and those dastardly conservatives that refused to forego their convictions of small govt., slashing spending and balancing the budget. The problem for her at that point will be whether or not anybody cares anymore what she has to say and if they are willing to part with $25 for yet another of her books. Vitriol toward the Left has made her wealthy. Trying to lay blame for a lost election and the irreversible set-back of America on conservatives may not be quite so profitable.

    It’s not clear why she jumped in early to support Romney, but as his conservative facade has been stripped away, layer by layer, its even more puzzling why she didn’t admit her own inability to discern the difference between a Lefty RINO and a true conservative.

    Ms. Coulter has had a great time during this primary season taking the opportunity to besmirch and degrade, as evidenced by the titles of many of her articles. As she’s taken cheap shots at candidate after candidate (i.e., “Does Rick Perry Have a Performance Problem?”) It’s been great fun to wriggle in her chair at Hannity’s desk or giggle her way through phone interviews, slamming decent people, spewing her typical razor sharp insults. Through it all, she always held Romney up as the true conservative, the ONLY one that can beat Obama and if anyone didn’t agree, they were simply stupid. Only her voice and opinion were of value.

    It’s now come to this: once a voice for conservatism, Coulter doesn’t just defend RomneyCare, she underscores her assumption of our stupidity. If she thinks any conservative is going to agree w/ her that RomneyCare is an example of free market principles she’s delusional. The mantle piece of the conservative march to defeat Obama–ObamaCare–is now being defended and even touted as some great advancement for the nation according to Ann Coulter and Norm Coleman.

    I’d venture a $10,000 bet that Ms. Coulter is scrambling now to find a way to defend Romney’s latest Freudian slip off the anti-conservative slope–raising the minimum wage is a good thing for jobs creation.

  • kegan05

    I donated more money to his campaign than I have ever donated to anyone. I still think he would make a great president and I hope he will get a good Debate coach and try again in 2016 or 2020.

    Perry is a very good man. He is honest and ethical, IMO. I really like his work on the 1200 mile border with Mexico.

    He is genuinely likeable but I think it was too soon after George Bush and the whole Texas thing. He did catch on fast when he first hit the scene, but I think his back surgery (fusion) was a real issue.

    If he runs again, I’ll be there! There is just one thing that baffles me. How could he endorse Newt Gingrich who is not really a conservative at all?

    If Mitt makes it to the White House, I hope he would consider Rick for the Homeland Security Chief. He would have that border sealed in less than a year.

  • creinstein

    Your researching is good… but I want people to step up

    http://www.redstate.com/creinstein/2012/02/03/exceptionalism/

  • iluvit

    Sure states have “states rights” but not to the point of having a right to decide to violate your personal rights. The claim that a mandate to purchase anything for any reason at any level is unconstitutional no matter which way you slice it. Mitt has tried to use that 10th amendment excuse but it is only smoke and mirrors to try to slip out of an argument that he cannot win on the facts.

    I sure wish Alabama would require everyone to buy a new bass boat. Then, if I cannot afford it everyone else will pay for one for me! Heck, I could even pay the $750 bucks to keep the collectors off my back and get a brand spanking new top-of the line model. Now that sounds like a deal. I need to call my representative today because the session begins in 4 days in Alabama. Yippee! This socialism sounds great doesn’t it.

  • kipling

    If we remain true to conservative principles and oppose Romney then we get 4 more years of Obama – which will inflict serious damage to our country.

    If we support Romney and his conservative act like Coulter, then we lose our principles and conservatism becomes meaningless.

    Our only hope is to support Romney – if he is the nominee – but to try and remain true to conservative principles even if it means accurately portraying him for who he is on a daily basis. The Establishment will scream foul and blame us for his loss to Obama but it seems to be the only option.

  • circlegranch

    and nearly 40% of Romney voters stated during exit polling that they are unhappy with the field of candidates.

  • cwfoster

    NEWT has his issues, made mistakes etc. He’s willing to admit that. I heard Obama admit to making mistakes all the time for what THAT’S worth! BUT, I haven’t heard Romney ever admit that Romneycare was a mistake. That’s the one thing he’s never flip flopped on! Newt is NOT a conservative by any stretch of the imagination. It’s just that standing next to Romney makes him look like one. By the way, those ‘conservatives’to who ran him out of congress… within two years they were writing “No Child Left Behind” and Medicare Part D for Bush. They are the same ones who by enacting the Bush tax cuts and thereby raising revenue, still spent faster than they took in! This is why I feel the whole GOP is ready for the ash heap of history!

  • streiff

    conservatives support federalism, federalim isn’t necessarily conservative.

    Just because the state has the power to do it doesn’t mean the action was conservative or that conservatives should support the action.

  • tnguy

    He’ll get a lot done because he’ll reach across the ailse???? In other words, he’ll bring back Bush big government exponentially?

    EE’s own column lays it out perfectly in the next to last paragraph: “I am afraid supporting Mitt Romney will undo a lot of the repairs made to the conservative movement in the past few years.” No need to be uncertain about it Erick….it’s guaranteed.

    If you’re a conservative, you cannot support Mitt Romney. If that means Obama II, so be it. Obama isn’t really the problem, we are. We need drastic changes in the republican party, and installing Romney at the head of it would only delay those changes at a time when we’re almost out of time, if not already.

    We’ve got to get conservatives at the head of the party while we still have a chance. Boehner, McConnell, and Romney-types will only dig the hole deeper.

  • iluvit

    The state cannot impose anything that in and of itself is unconstitutional on a federal level. A state could not impose a law or constitutional amendment, for example, that would forbid women the right to own property. The state could scream states rights all day long but that would not make it constitutional because it violates the rights of the individual under the US Constitution.

  • tnguy

    There’s a lot of warts on him, but he generally governed from the right when in congress.He implemented most of the contract with America. And for most of his failures since, at least he admits he was wrong. I don’t know, maybe he doesn’t mean it, but at least he’s disclaiming things like sitting on the bench with Pelosi.

    On the other hand, Romney governed mostly from the left, and has embraced his “progressive” past.

    It’s dishonest to pretend otherwise.

  • iluvit

    In these, you can get a gold family plan for about $150 per month. Full coverage too! The principle that makes it work so well is that everyone has to, as suggested above, participate up front with some share of the cost. A long-standing cooperative named Christian Health Ministries has been around for almost 20 years and has a stellar reputation. A member pays the first $500 and the cooperative pays the rest. The negotiate the bills to say the cooperative money. I do not understand why the republicans to not bring this up in the house as a bill.

    Rick Nelson

  • mspector

    From Ann Coulter? Whodathunkit.

  • Elpasoan

    I guess an example of that is left wing arguments like “vulture capitalist.”

  • jc230

    Blah, blah, blah, you brilliantly layout how smart you are and how Levin has it incorrect. I too have heard Ann try to explain the difference between Obamacare and Romneycare. Bottom line, Romnycare is not a free market program, regardless of constitionality.

  • JSobieski

    The requirement that a person pay the first $x out of their pocket is the key to getting healthcare spending under control

    So of course, Obamacare specifically tries to prohibit it

  • kegan05

    Newt Gingrich is also a “Progressive” by his own admission on a YouTube Video. He also described himself as a Rockefeller Republican and a “Wilsonian Progressive.” None of these “titles” are Conservative.

    Newt also declares our Constitution to be “obsolete.” Most Conservatives would start hyperventilating at that notion. We think the Constitution is the most perfect document ever conceived by humanity.

    He has been for Gun Control, Mandates and Global Warming, including Cap and Trade. None of these are Conservative policies.

    And yet Newt calls Romney a “flip-flopper.” Go figure.

    Overall, I don’t think Newt is morally fit to be our Commander in Chief and POTUS and that’s the reason I’ll vote for Mitt, IF he gets the nomination. However, I will support anyone over Obama.

  • JSobieski

    The only reasons why in my view conservatives would support Romney over Newt are issues relating to character and executive experience.

    I can understand that different people weigh these factors differently.

    One can support Newt because he is “more conservative” than Romney, and I don’t think that assessment can be objectively refused. Particularly if you focus on actual record in government and policies advocated for while in office or campaigning for office.

  • kegan05

    Perry was my candidate but I didn’t like him and Newt going after Capitalism and the Free Market concept like they did. It was totally off the wall.

  • JSobieski

    http://www.cato.org/pubs/policy_report/v29n5/cpr29n5-1.html

    There are many more important problems in healthcare (such as for example, overregulation) than free riders.

    The “WE HAVE TO DO SOMETHING” logic is what leads to all sorts of problems. It led to TARP, auto bailouts, stimulus, Dodd-Frank, Obamacare…. and yes …. Romneycare.

  • jc230

    Erick, can you, Levin, Gallegher, and a host of other crony conservatives, forgo the “I love Ann … Ann’s my friend … She’s smart, brilliant” phrases before offering your insights or disagreement with her perspective. Personally, I cannot listen to her anymore. she’s irrelevant. I wish the conservative media would stop prolong her up, stop giving her legitimacy.

  • Elpasoan

    Why did the pundits ignore him? Because his polls tanked and he was stuck in the single digits.

    I don’t need to “expunge” Perry from my memory. I’ve lived in Texas most my life (except 5 years in MA in 92 and 99-03. I remember when Perry ran for Lieutenant governor in 98. He is seen as weak by most people I know. He easily wins reelection because Dems are hated in TX. He beat Kay Baily in 2010 because she is just too moderate especially in a year like 2010. His approval rating is now very low. I was surprised that he ran for president and didn’t expect much.

    If I could snap my fingers and suddenly a flat tax appeared, that would be great. But the idea that the US congress will voluntarily give up 75% of their power that is buried in the tax code is pipe dream. Not in my lifetime and not in the next president’s administration. And Perry won’t be the one to convince them to do so. Same is true with a part time congress, great idea, but not living in reality.

    Perry looks and speaks like GWB (not necessarily good for electability this close out of his presidency) and has similar communication skills. GWB however is much more likeable and has better leadership skills.

  • kegan05

    I don’t think Mitt Romney has ever appeared on YouTube saying our Constitution is “obsolete.” Newt has.

    He also endorsed and wrote the Forward to Alvin Toffler’s book entitled ” Creating a New Civilization,” which called for our governing system to “die and be replaced” by a Global authority. Yikes!

    Newt really goes off the Reservation at times and makes himself appear unstable and unfit to serve.

    You can see several Video’s on YouTube under Newt Gingrich and Newt Gingrich Constitution Obsolete. Check it out if you are interested and if you can deal with Newt Bloviating for an hour.

  • JSobieski

    “It’s not plausible to believe this package can be defined in an apolitical way. Each medical specialty, from oncology to acupuncture, will pressure the legislature to include their services in the package. And as the benefits package grows, so will the premiums.

    Limiting the mandate’s scope with vacuous phrases like “basic health care products and services” will not solve the problem, because what is basic to some is crucial to others. Does contraception constitute basic health care? How about psychotherapy? Dental care? Chiropractic? The phrase “medically necessary” is just as problematic, because there is no objective definition of necessity. And even if there were, it wouldn’t matter, because the content of the law will be determined by the legislative process. The “basic” package might initially be minimal, but over time it will succumb to the same special-interest lobbying that affects every other area of public policy. If psychotherapy is not initially included in the package, eventually it will be, once the psychotherapists’ lobby has its way. And likewise for contraception, dental care, chiropractic, acupuncture, in vitro fertilization, hair transplants, ad infinitum.

    This is not mere speculation. Even now, every state in the union has a list of mandated benefits that any health insurance policy must cover. Mandated benefits have included all of the services listed above ? yes, even hair transplants in some states. All states together have created nearly 1900 mandated benefits. Given that medical interest groups have found it worth their time and money to lobby 50 state legislatures for laws affecting only voluntarily purchased insurance policies, mandatory insurance will only exacerbate the problem. If the benefits package is established at the federal level, the incentive to lobby will be that much greater.”

    http://www.cato.org/pubs/policy_report/v29n5/cpr29n5-1.html

    I.e. Romneycare and Obamacare inevitably make the problem worse because they will discredit capitalism in the eyes of the public, which will result in government option and ultimately single payer.

  • Common_Cents

    and not being the dominant enthusiastic choice.

  • Elpasoan

    I could go on for hours about how completely unelectable Newt is.

    Let’s assume that Newt is a “real conservative”, which we all know is far from the case.

    There is this idea floating around ever since Reagan that conservatism sells, which it does and can, but you have to have the right messenger. If someone like Ronald Reagan is selling it, people will buy it. If Newt Gingrich is selling it, moderate voters in swing states will not. Women will not. The people that are going to decide this election are not ideological people that have an engrained political philosophy. They are not visiting redstate everyday. They vote by feeling, by looks, by positive emotions. It is important to them who is on their TV screens everyday. They want to feel comfortable. Newt makes them feel uncomfortable.

  • Common_Cents

    that ushers in a Republican revolution, balanced budgets, 14 million jobs, Contract with America etc…

    You are worried about titles rather than results? really?

    Newt is a big thinking brainstormer, big deal, he’s going to say out of the box things. He thinks out loud. That’s just him.

    Look at his intentional pursuits and actions which achieved tremendous results and you have the next President, hands down.

    If you can’t look at Gingrich and Romney and tell Gingrich has tremendous conviction, while Romney is reciting talking points, you are blind.

  • avagreen

    Perry is, believe it or not, not very well liked in Texas as much as he should be in this red of a state. Perry is a below average communicator.
    You sound like the typical liberal from Texas.

    Perry is quite well-liked……it’s just the liberals in Texas that don’t like him. Apparently, you are one. The clincher is your support of Romney over Newt. BZZZZT! Liberal.

    Your glossing over his win over K.Bailey Hutchinson, who had the support of the Bush family, is laughable. That was a tough race and he won it. As he has all 7 or 8 (can’t remember the correct number right now…..as I’m verifying signatures for Govenor Walker’s recall in Wisconsin)

    I, too, having been born here, have lived the majority of life (in/out of Texas) from age 6 to age 17 and then my entire adult life in Texas. I can call your story just plain barnyard poop.

    Communicator? Perry is a great communicator………how do you think he was able to attract all of his supporters, especially the ones that don’t live in Texas?????

  • scottishjew

    Why vote for Romney? Why not write in the candidate you want? You can sell your conservative soul defending Romneycare and his other liberal ideas. But you give it away when you vote for him. What will we have with Romney, Eric. More prescription drug bills, more Harriet Miers, more No child Left Behind Legislation, COLA increases for minimum wage. Im sure Romney’s got lots of bad liberal ideas I havent even considered yet. Why vote for someone who we konw is going to do these things. Just to get out Obama. What’s the point?

    Romney is counting on conservatives holding his nose. He thinks we have no choice but to voter for him. He says as much publicly. So, he gives conservatives the bird. If he is the nominee, I will return the sentiment. Nothing will change until the Republican Party knows it cant take conservatives for granted.

  • Common_Cents

    In the next upcoming financial crisis, he’d use hundreds of billions of taxpayer money to bail out WS cronies. He’ll tell everyone we must preserve markets. Nobody will question him because he was a financial expert. It is written.

    There isn’t one person that can look in the mirror and say Romney is a principled conservative and isn’t a phoney. People can justify all they want, but in their heart of hearts, there’s no way even one person believes he is genuine.

  • irishgirl

    is spot on.

  • lineholder

    Some states could have higher free rider costs, some lower. The cost of requiring a state to expand Medicaid could be much greater than that state’s free rider cost?

    On a state level, all the Medicaid funds come out of one pocket, so to speak. So money that may have been spent in attempting to increase reimbursement rates to providers so that providers will continue to see Medicaid patients will be spent on insuring more people instead, and the most likely outcome is that reimbursement rates will drop and providers may begin to refuse to accept Medicaid….in which case, we’re paying for insurance coverage without access, to primary care which will….drive more people to the ER?

    Is that about right?

  • madeirabeach

    While running for the governors’ seat in the peoples’ republic of Massachusetts, Romney espoused gun control, spoke for a minors’ rights to appeal to a judge for an abortion WHERE PARENTS OBJECT TO THE PROCEDURE.., advocated for civil unions for gays and virtually wrote the precursor for OBAMACARE, which he still defends to this day though it is a miserable failure by any standard. (Massachussets residents pay some of the highest health insurance premiums and costs in the nation.)

    It is all well and good for Mitt Romney to call himself a Republican while he remains in Massachussetts, but south of the Mason Dixon line and east of the Mississippi, we call those guys democrats.

    Agreed, Newts’ credentials as a conservative are shaky at best, but he is at least arguably a marginal Republican which in the cold light of reality has to pose an improvement over whatever Romney chooses or claims to be this week.

    It is sad to say, but rather than deciding who is the best conservative to represent our views and principles I find myself trying to discern who is the least liberal in the group…just as I have had to do in every presidential contest since 1984.

    I believe this to be the most momentous election our country has held in 152 years. The country chose well then, we must do no less in our day. It absolutely amazes me to contemplate the fact, but the truth of the matter is our liberty may well depend upon it. And that is not an excercise in hyperbole, It is the true State of the Union the honorable B.H. Obama notwithstanding.

  • Common_Cents

    Brilliant!

    Wow, congress was so much better off w/out Newt, look at all the conservatism in congress since Gingrich!

    Look at all those balanced budgets!

  • avagreen

    Perhaps, you are the one out of step here.
    Perry called a spade a spade. Romney didn’t like it and I guess you didn’t either as a Romney supporter..

    Tell that to Forbes magazine, you know…….the business magazine. Businesses are usually “capitalist” in nature.
    http://nymag.com/print/?/news/politics/mitt-romney-2011-10/

    http://www.forbes.com/sites/johnmcquaid/2012/01/12/romneys-vulture-capitalist-problem/2/

    Ebenezer Scrooge is grateful for your support of his way of doing business. *smile*

  • Common_Cents

    When people pick Romney knowing he’ll lose, but he is the “safe” pick. You’ll get ridiculed less if he loses.

  • ariyosef

    EE is correct in challenging Ann C. But even EE is guilty.

    In 76-82 inTexas, I was a ?Grass Roots Majority? CONSERVATIVE leader,
    significantly involved in supporting Reagan, Ron Paul, and other God-Fearing candidates who understood and stood for the USA CONSTITUTION.

    I ?dropped out? due to G Bush Sr. and Jim Baker stealing so much from Constitutional Conservative Americans of PRINCIPLE. My deepest apologies.

    SADLY, few of the OLD are still standing as many new ?Don Quixote?s? come and go.

    Once, I too, called myself ?#1 Republican? in a local race. Had I simply said ?#1 Conservative? I might have won. (An insight that was gained in hindsight)

    No longer youthful. Now wiser. I See more clearly.

    When will we learn to stand with the Conservative God-Fearers and
    NEVER Compromise PRINCIPLE?? !

    EE recommended Rick Perry drop out.
    Perhaps that was wise. But — NOW WHAT?

    Failing to STAND has given us this EXTREME MESS!

    EE also joined many in diminishing the man ?Ron Paul.?
    Though he stands for so much that is true to the American Heart.
    Ad homonym derision ignores (and diminishes) the greater values espoused by the most consistent candidate.
    Also, demonstrates why so many frustrated Americans only trust the truth from the one clear voice still standing.

    Maybe its time to listen, learn to respect, the battle worn, old and wiser ones?
    Some things are beyond compromise, whether moral, social, economic, or political.

    Idealists will die for One True Voice, however otherwise flawed.

    Look forward to a brokered convention.

    (No, I am not a Ron Paul supporter in these races — Just an experienced observer)

  • kegan05

    Candidate who can win the Republican Nomination and that is not Newt Gingrich. No, I am NOT interest in titles! But when Newt blatantly and proudly calls himself a “Wilsonian Progressive” it’s like waving a red flag in front of a bull, for a real conservative. When he says our Constitution is obsolete, it makes you want to wop him up side the head. Barack Obama has said the same thing.

    He’s a smart guy who is also a bomb-thrower and is considered to be undisciplined and erratic. He was not well liked by his peers in the House of Representatives. They voted overwhelming against a second term as Speaker. Newt thrives in chaos. And usually causes it. Do we really need someone like that at the helm, steering our country back on the right track? I don’t think so. He needs to start his own Think Tank and spew out “Grandiose Idea’s” 24/7. Moon Colony by 2025? I guess we could borrow the money from China. pfft!

  • mikelindell2

    He hasn’t even proposed a real tax reform plan. Do you really think the most politically calculating politician of all time will do anything to improve this country???? I really see him pushing for strong tax reform, huge spending cuts, reduced regulations, etc.

  • http://www.doctor-bob.biz rsklaroff

    I can’t find any documentation on the Internet.

  • mikelindell2

    In a general, Crossroads GPS and others. will have money to compete with Obama’s money. In Florida, there was a ridiculous advertising disparity against Newt.

  • http://www.doctor-bob.biz rsklaroff

    …to attack The Newt?

    puh-leeze…

  • mikelindell2

    I think someone with his experience, record, and knowledge would make people feel very comfortable. Not sure why you say otherwise. Romney is more of a loose cannon than Newt on any day.

  • http://www.doctor-bob.biz rsklaroff

    [Mitt isn't the nominee, yet....]

  • http://www.doctor-bob.biz rsklaroff

    The Newt may wander off the reservation, whereas Mitt LIVES off the reservation.

  • mikelindell2

    of Newt testifying against cap and tax. Or you can believe what Romney and the establishment tell you. Don’t let the video proof get in your way. Oh, and he kills it!

  • http://www.doctor-bob.biz rsklaroff

    Your observation could motivate people to “see the light.”

  • tnguy

    ….then we have none.

    How can you support him than tell your friends, neighbors, random people 4 years from now to support a conservative?

    When liberals say “we tried it your way”, what will you answer? You can try to say it wasn’t your way, but then, you did support Romney.

    I’m done supporting non-conservative candidates. I hope that many others will draw the same line in the sand and remain steadfast. Obama is no more dangerous than we allow him to be. A truly conservative congress could easily stalemate him. If only McConnell and Boehner-types aren’t running it.

  • liveforadrenaline

    Both McConnell and Boehner talk tough but then do nothing. The same can be said for conservatives who have zero leadership skills like Ron Paul.

    Now we might have to stomach a new President who has absolutely no record of accomplishing anything conservative, whether fiscal or social.

    Like a lot of people, I’m ready to bury my head in the sand and hope this mess goes away. I’ve fought for years but mostly what people hear is that I’m a guy tilting at windmills, and quite frankly, I’m tired of the bazillions of compromises most of these idiots, including now Ann Coulter, make.

  • mikelindell2

    Sorry to have to kill whatever petty things you thought you had on Newt.

  • kegan05

    I have not brought up anything from the 70′s. I am talking about Alvin Toffler’s book in 1990. You don’t have too far back with old Newt.

    You said you couldn’t find anything on Newt and his declaration that our Constitution was “obsolete.” I found it by going to YouTube.com and then entering “Newt Gingrich Constitution Obsolete.” It popped right up. I have about 5 or 6 links on Newt in my email that I can post if you can’t find the information.

  • JSobieski

    Newt is an ideas guy. Nobody is arguing that he hasn’t said some odd ball stuff.

    However, as a politician holding elective office Newt has done more for conservativism than Romney has.

    1994 Republican Revolution vs. fewer line tiem vetoes than liberal NY Governor Patterson

  • streiff

    we might as well face up to that unpleasant bit of news and decide what to do next.

  • kegan05

    He might have been for it before he was against it.

  • JSobieski

    done to close the gap for people too rich for medicaid and too poor for insurance, but the costs for doing so are huge (based on a disfunctional market) and thus those costs exceeds the free rider problem.

    Instead of pursuing the goal of universal coverage and then only secondarily attempting to deal with cost issues, it would be better to deal primarily with the cost issues, which would by itself do alot .

    After fixing the market, it would be much less expensive to deal with those who cannot fend for themselves.

  • kegan05

    that Newt is electable?

    I think Obama would capitalize on his “history” and cut him to pieces.

  • liveforadrenaline

    Because they can’t find anything Romney has ever done for Conservatives.

    Pretty much everything Romney has done is liberal and a negative, but they trot out this crap like Ann Coulter that he is “electable.”

  • JSobieski

    and conservatives…. Obamacare.

    If Newt has electability problems, it isn’t based on his “history”

  • liveforadrenaline

    We can also remember Boehner helping stab Newt in the back over pretty much everything, even though the Republicans had major momentum.

    In-fighting in the Republican Party has transcended ideals… partly because some people have no conservative ideals, let alone sense of teamwork…

  • JSobieski

    but much of the Constitution does apply to states, and some amendments such as the 14th Amendment are specifically targetted to states.

  • tnguy

    Personally, I can’t stand Coulter’s writing, nor can I stand to hear her on the radio. She comes on a show, I’m switching the dial to sports radio or something.

    Of course, for those same types of reasons, I rarely listen to talk radio any longer.

  • rattlerjake

    The last 20 years has been nothing more than a dismal failure for this country, the the future holds no promise. For me, it’s sickening to think that my retirement years will be spent forking over everything I’ve worked for to pay off the illegitimate spending of liberals and RINOs in this country, and wondering just how many more laws and restrictions will be instituted in their attempt to corral and control the working American. The problem I see with most conservatives is that they always wait until the last minute (when it is too late) to put up a fight, and that is the downfall. When an individual can be elected to President that CANNOT and HAS NOT proven his eligibility, and for it to take so long (while he destroys our economy), for the legal system to investigate and make a decision is proof that America as we KNEW it is gone. A country that was built on hard work, common sense, honor, and ethics (to name a few), is now noted worldwide for the lies and dishonesty, greed, laziness of the workforce yet wanting more compensation, low educational standing, and poor leadership.

  • kegan05

    You didn’t kill anything. It all still there. For all of posterity.

    Newt is Moot.

  • bethrorie

    You will vote for Obama? Or that you will vote for Ron Paul when he runs as a Libertarian?

  • bethrorie

    You will vote for Obama? Or that you will vote for Ron Paul when he runs as a Libertarian?

  • cbartlett

    I, too, have lived and voted in Texas all my life. Also went to Texas public schools and graduated from a state University. I voted for Perry every time he ran for statewide office, but, admittedly many times only because I was voting against his opponent. But I recently read a very interesting 2-part article that includes a lot of background on the conservative movement in Texas and how Perry “didn’t fit” the big government version of the Republican Party, just as Erick talks about in this writing. Perry is WAY more conservative than George Bush ever was – hence the reason the Bush-types don’t like him and did everything they could, along with the MSM to bring him down. This is also the reason you will hear manyTexans say what you did about Perry – “he is not even very well liked in Texas”. The public has been, and continues to be, manipulated by the liberal MSM in this state (and I guess all over the country too?) I challenge you to read this article – I learned a lot about how Texas politics works now. I actually felt a little betrayed after reading this.
    http://rickperryreport.com/article/2012-01-19/why-rick-perry-didnt-go-all-way

  • kegan05

    I went to YouTube.com then typed in “Newt Gingrich, Constitution Obsolete” and it came right up.

    I have several links to the YouTube stuff on Newt in my email. I’ll post them after lunch.

  • cbartlett

    nt

  • liveforadrenaline

    In the history of the politics of the Republican Party your strategy has been a loser for us EVERY TIME.

    And you are factually incorrect… many many Republicans who has strong Conservative principles have gotten elected President.

    Its when you get moderates and progressives masquerading as Republicans that irreparable damage is done to the long-term conservative movement… T. Roosevelt, Herbert Hoover, Bushes, etc…

  • septembergurl

    security issues dominated, along with ancillary concerns (torture, Gitmo, Patriot act, etc) in both parties. health care was not on the agenda for republicans (different among Dems). McCain actually had a rather good health care plan, based on HSAs and the need to remove the employer-based system. It was not something McCain pushed, however. On the Democrap side Obama argued against a mandate and Hillary splained he would need one. i believe the thinking was that after Hillarycare bombed, no Democrap would endanger his second term by trying it again (ie, it was simply a campaign promise.)

    I’d say neither McCain nor Romney is a conservative, though McCain is much more solid on issues like abortion and guns. Limbaugh et al supported romney partly because Romney had adopted entirely fictitious conservative views and partly out of McCain Derangement Syndrome, the reaction to McCain pushing non-conservative policies on immigration amnesty, campaign finance, etc.

  • liveforadrenaline

    Don’t seem to know how to wield the POWER needed to make changes.

    Ron Paul, for instance, has spent decades in the House and never really accomplished anything. Fancy speeches and fundraising, yes… Committee Chairmanships, no. Bachmann can’t seen to wrest power away from Boehner. DeMint can’t seem to move the McConnell clan into insignificance…

    This is going to take a LOT of work…

  • heresjohnny01

    This is what I’VE been thinking all along. But I thought it was just too simple for me to be correct. ?A 1946 federal law essentially requires hospitals to provide free medical services to all comers?. Ever been to a county hospital? They DO have health care. But, they also offer FREE care to the uninsured. WE are paying for that free care. I say Hooray for Romney for tackling such an explosive issue. ?The (RomneyCare) bill passed by 154-2 in the Massachusetts House and unanimously, 37-0, in the Massachusetts.? And a pox on Obama?s house for creating a Frankenstein monster from it. That one was passed with massive objections from US Citizens, and the Democrats lost the House in 2010 because of it.

    Is RomneyCare the panacea for uninsured care? Gee, I don?t know. Do you know? Does Newt? It?s easy to criticize the plan when it doesn?t work out. So, who has the solution? Massachusetts loved it!

    Based on the criticism, it looks like NO ONE will EVER attempt to solve the FREE health care to the uninsured issue.

    So, the age of entitlement continues because the first one to stick his head out of the fox hole is getting shot all to hell.

    This criticism is just politics. It?s along the same line as criticizing Newt for cheating on 3 wives, or was it cheating on 2 wives, well you get my drift???adultery, health care enactments. Kinda the same thing?

  • mikelindell2

    If you’re interested. This Youtube video has most of his outrageous flip-flops, and moments where he becomes unhinged or behaves erratically. If you’re supporting him, you may not after you watch lol.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O-h_fBZi_0I

  • mikelindell2

    Sitting on a couch doesn’t mean you support cap-and-trade. Watch him testify after Al Gore testifies, it’s miraculous.

  • Scope

    to point out how disliked Perry and Gingrich are, but fail to acknowledge how very disliked Romney is, and has been all along. Romney is appropriately tagged as the platic Ken Doll, and it is deserved. Romney’s unfavorables are as high as Gingrich’s, and maybe higher. People are voting for him because they have been told to get in line and do so, because he is the second one we have been waiting for.

  • rattlerjake

    Many of the mandates that states impose are unconstitutional also. We have state, city, and county agencies and politicians who have created laws that are based on what they want and not what is necessary. We have two types of laws in this country, (A) Laws to ensure safety and protect the public, and (B) laws to force compliance with an individual (or group) view of how it should be, often based on money. An example is Annexation. Annexation is an instance where a city involuntarily incorporates citizens who have made a choice to live in a rural area with minimal regulation or amenities. These citizens have had no say (even if they fight it it seldom is overturned) in being annexed, had no say in the laws created by the city (can’t park your boat in your yard, can’t work on your car in your own driveway, can’t let your grass grow too tall, etc.), but are required now to conform to the rules and regulations and additional costs of taxes and municipal utility hook up. Certain building codes for example are for safety, but most are simply for aesthetics or maintaining a mechanism of control.

  • mikelindell2

    No one can touch what he has accomplished and can accomplish. That was the last conservative leader we had in Washington.

  • Finrod

    What happens when Republicans reach across the aisle with one hand is that usually they’re stabbing the base in the back with the other hand.

    If Romney becomes President we had all better start wearing shields on our backs.

  • mikelindell2

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O-h_fBZi_0I

  • Common_Cents

    There are plenty of old videos and policies from a liberal Romney. Including being pro abortion just 10 years ago. A grown man can’t figure out abortion is murder?

  • Finrod

    Give me that amount of money to spend in every state in the general and Newt would win 40 states against Obama.

  • Scope

    the Ron Paul, Debra Medina faction in your discourse, but then again they are one and the same as the liberal media. Didn’t they put a full page add in a Texas newspaper looking for anyone who had affairs with Perry? No takers I see.

    I remember when Perry first got in the race, the Paulbots were running over top each other screaming buildeberg, crony capitalist, eminent domain pusher, illegal lover. The only thing they managed to leave out was child rapist and murderer. Oh wait, they did claim he strapped little girls down and had them injected with poison.

  • Finrod

    That’s a very good way to put it: Newt may go off the reservation from time to time, but Mitt lives off the reservation and doesn’t even really know what it’s like inside.

  • Finrod

    .

  • Scope

    that it was one of Romney’s top advisers, Stuart something, that was the first to use “vulture capitalist” in an ad against Meg Whitman. It is typical of Romney, and his surrogates and supporters who are quick to point fingers, even though those fingers can be pointed right back at them.

    So tell me, did Romney remove the passage that Romneycare would be good for the nation, when his soft copy book was printed?

  • citizenjerry

    It’s admirable you want to stand up for your friends, Eric. But dear Annie has left conservatism behind and become a squishy moderate — the same kind of people she used to pillory in her columns. I guess she’s been writing screeds for so long, she became a screed. And any cache she had among true conservative, she joyously and with a grand bow flushed down the mushy moderate commode. Political tragedy writ large.

  • Finrod

    Accusing Rush Limbaugh of not doing his research is so laugh-worthy, I’m remembering your username, kegan05, so that I’ll know to not take seriously anything else you post here.

  • scottishjew

    I’ll see who the Libertarian candidate is. Probably not Ron Paul. Like his economic policies but his foreign policy…. Like Ayn Rand, I dont view dictatorships, like Iran, as sovereign states. They dont govern with the consent of the people and, therefore, are not entitled to the deference he gives them.

  • cbartlett

    is what we have to aim for. There are absolutely “more” conservative individuals out there, but, unfortunately, either the MSM media ran them off or they have chosen not to run for this office at this time. That being said, we are basically faced with choosing the “least liberal” or the “most conservative” between Newt and Mitt. Newt has demonstrated more conservative actions when he was speaker and I can’t think of anything but liberalism demonstrated by Mitt. I agree with you about Mitt possibly being considered a “good Republican” in Massachusetts, but in the south – not so much.

    I also keep thinking about one thing Rush has said more than once – the conservative that can TEACH conservatism is the one that can win. A candidate that can tell people (ummm, sheeple) why conservative principles work for them and will work for the country is the one that will get voters behind them. No matter what else you say about his personal baggage, Newt is a teacher. Mitt just doesn’t inspire.

  • stardustsara

    if erickson had watched sean hannity interviewing romney last night, he would have to believe that romney is a conservative. i was in awe.

  • benko

    here:

    http://townhall.com/columnists/jonahgoldberg/2012/02/03/the_case_for_romney

    I’m hoping there is another way but if not, perhaps some consolation.

  • baserunr

    I never expect to see Barack Obama doing anything of the sort!

  • Seedyrom

    of MA so costs go through the roof plus Romney’s projections were off more than 800%. Coulter is lying for someone who doen’t know what conservatism is and she is clueless to the damage she and Romney have already done to the GOP.

    Wouldn’t surprise me to find half the people here apologizing for Romney and Coulter to be operatives working for Romney. Regardless, I’m not convinced because the numbers and the plan do not add up and they can’t force us to pay for something we don’t want.

    Even at the state level, each state constitution may not allow the state to force a mandate, in fact Romney is pushing a Top Down model where the Fed and State rule over our choices. So its not constitutional on multiple levels.

    Anyone is better than Obama, I can live with Newt, Santorum, even Paul (I know how crazy it sounds, but) comes to mind as does a brokered convention where we draft Rick Perry or Mitch Daniels or fill in the blank.

  • gazill

    was due to the fact that the alteratives (McCain, Huckabee) were weaker. I recall plenty of dicsussion on the failure of Romneycare during the 2008 campaign. Plus, at that time, our elected federal representatives hadn’t corkscrewed the rules to inflict ObamaCare on us at that time, so though it was a campaign discussion point, it hadn’t been reality.

  • submariner45

    Time Magazine is more than willing to give “conservatives” a forum to bash Romney as a RINO because the liberal MSM wants to hurt his chances in November. I believe the term is “useful idiot”

    Here is Erick Erickson 4 years ago when he endorsed Romney as President 4 years ago:

    “So if the Presidential Preference Primary in Georgia were tomorrow, I?d vote for Mitt. Sure, he has waffled on social issues ? but I think that highlights his pragmatic approach to politics. He was never going to get elected as a pro-life candidate in Massachusetts and he knew it. I won?t fault him. I think, if he gets elected based on conservative support, he won?t betray that support in office.?

    The whole premise that Romney is the end of the conservative movement within the GOP sounds like more grandstanding to get attention than anything.

    If Romney doesn’t qualify as a conservative, than either does Newt.

  • streiff

    Until 1992 Mitt Romney was registered as a Democrat. Romney has not one single conservative accomplishment to his name in his entire life.

    Let’s give a more complete quote and see for yourself if this is an “endorsement.”

    And this, ladies and gentlemen, highlights my frustration with the Republican lineup for 2008. My candidate, Jeb, is not running. I’m left, at the moment, with several choices. The one I’d prefer (Rudy) won’t get me with his presently held views on social issues. The one I’d love to go with (Brownback) just isn’t viable right now. That leaves Mitt Romney and Insane McCain — and that, as it is, is a no brainer for me.

    Byt the way I loathe dishonesty and I consider your post to be one of the most dishonest that have ever appeared on this blog. That may not matter to you but it does to me. Don’t pull this type of crap again or you can start posting over and MyManMitt because you won’t be posting here.

  • sharrondeer

    All but one state requires anyone who has a car on the road to have car insurance. That’s a mandate for all car drivers, for the general welfare of the people.

    The issue isn’t whether the government can mandate things, because it’s constitutional to do so, but what sort of things it can mandate. And that’s a more complicated answer.

  • sharrondeer

    Trust none of what you hear and less of what you see. :)

  • edintexas

    As simple as that. Newt’s bandwagon would still be nowhere if other “Not Romney” candidates were apparently viable. Newt is not Conservative, but he is somewhat more acceptably conservative than Romney. No matter Charles Krauthammer’s comment that Romney is yet comfortable with discourse on his newly arrived at conservatism, Romney never was, and never will be Conservative.

  • edintexas

    “…yet comfortable…” should be “…not yet comfortable…”.

  • JSobieski

    When government starts requiring you to do things for your own behalf, you are living in a nanny state:

    Mandatory nutrition requirements?
    Mandatory exercise requirements?

    FYI, The ability of a state to regulate is based on what is known as “police power”

  • sharrondeer

    The Republican Party has always included moderates and even progressives. We can state what we wish the Republican party was and elect people who share our principles, but that doesn’t mean that a moderate Republican isn’t a Republican.

    I don’t believe the Republican Party will ever reflect the principles of the Tea Party. We need to form a third party.

  • JSobieski

    It is less expensive to compensate ER’s for the free riders than it is to increase Medicaid, provide health insurance subsidies to the working poor, and otherwise screw up the market such that prices skyrocket.

    The net negative impact of Romneycare to the Mass. economy is significant.

  • sharrondeer

    And has been getting better at it.

    Trust none of what you hear and less of what you see.

  • sharrondeer

    She’s always been about herself. And making money for herself. That’s true of most of the TV and radio personalities: they consider it “entertainment”.

  • edintexas

    1. Insurance is not required in the states (might be in some). Most, if not all, states require “financial responsibility”, which can be met by insurance or a bond.

    2. Drivers are not insured, regardless of your allegation that it is “…a mandate for all drivers.” If you live in a “Nanny State”, your experience may vary, but in most (if not all) states vehicle owners are required to show financial responsibility, not drivers of vehicles. A person can qualify for a driver’s license without owning a vehicle, and thus without being required to show proof of financial responsibility. Driver’s License renewal does not require proof, but vehicle license renewal does (in most states).

  • sharrondeer

    This isn’t a challenge, just a request. I like to have hard data whenever possible.

  • edintexas

    Due to the cost of Romneycare, money was taken from the pool paying for indigent medical care. The poor (indigent) were no longer able to access the previously available “free” care, but they were provided with subsidized insurance coverage. So the poor went from totally free care to insurance coverage, with co-pays, deductibles, etc. And insurance doesn’t equate to access to care either. Clinics which had been supported by the indigent care pool money, had to reduce or eliminate serving the indigent population due to lack of funds. And all that before we consider the increased cost of medical care in MA, far greater than the increase average across the nation, or even in neighboring states (which surely have the same regional factors, except for Romneycare).

    And a lot of the increased cost to the State government, which Romneycare incurred, was shifted to Medicaid. So every taxpayer in every state is subsidizing a portion of the Romneycare cost.

    If you think that Romneycare helped, you have been fooled. If you think that the cost of the program is limited to MA, you have been fooled again.

  • Repair_Man_Jack

    Why do you believe that is, if automobile insurance is a universal mandate as you have posted above?

  • edintexas

    I responded to the troll. Sorry about that.

  • edintexas

    Newt is the currently viewed “viable” “Not Romney”. And he is more conservative than Romney. I just don’t consider Newt to be “big C” Conservative.

  • JSobieski

    http://www.cato.org/pubs/policy_report/v29n5/cpr29n5-1.html

    Romneycare like Obamacare is comprised of the following components:
    (1) expand medicaid as a component to achieve universal coverage
    (2) subsidies to low earners not eligible for medicaid

    (1) and (2) are collectively higher than free rider costs.

    When coupled with no deregulation (i.e. building additional structure on a bad foundation with inadequate market forces), you have even greater cost consequences.

  • The_Rebel

    and ask whether we are part of the solution or part of the problem. Turnout thus far in the primaries has been down, and according to most knowledgeable sources, the reason is that much of the conservative base is not showing up to vote.

    We better get over this intransigence quickly, or we can blame ourselves (the base) if Obama is re-elected. I’m seeing too many references here and elsewhere of people stating they will never vote in the general for Romney. All we need is the MSM touting in November that one of the main reasons for Obama’s victory is that the conservative base failed to show up.

  • krish

    In this case, I have to blame Hannity! He treats Mitt as if he is a conservative on par with others in the field now or before! All his conervative positions are for the primaries!

    None of the mainstream media has done a true in depth coverage of Romneycare & how it has affected MA residents who already had Private health insurance. I understand why the liberal media is quiet Now but people like Fox, Rush, Ingram, etc. – why are they quiet?

    Remember Hannity talking everyday about Obama’s pastor Wright – wher is that kind of in depth reporting so that conservatives understand who this guy is?

    What is the point! Is Red State the last bastion in the media? I pray Erick, Levin, Palin & few others stand for the conservative cause & not get pulled to the dark side with $$$ or positions or acknowledgement from the MSM!

  • rec0n

    is “if”. That’s precisely the opposite of what he did as Governor, and he had the much-vaunted “private sector experience” then, too. He balanced the Massachusetts exactly as he had done as an executive at Bain. He played a zero-sum game and balanced the budget on paper much as the CBO is required to do, but there were no pro-growth policies instituted in Mass.

    He did exactly what we’ve been fighting against for the last 3 years – he closed “loopholes” w/out reducing rates, and MA then and now sport corp rates that are among the highest in the nation. He added new fees, increased existing fees, and raised taxes, increasing the per capita tax burden by several points. Business taxes went up 20% under Romney, and then he raised the minimum wage. The MA government raked in more revenue from regulatory fees alone than *New York* did. And then he spear-headed Romneycare.That piece of legislation has also increased COL & taxation, and been responsible for thousands more lost jobs,

    Romney and MA were ranked 47th in jobs creation during his tenure. His reward for this was an approval rating that had dropped 30 points by the end of his term. He did cut spending, he did streamline and integrate duplicative programs, but he did not reduce unemployment or contribute to any upward mobility.

    All of this accomplished with his “private sector background”. All of it aside from his so-con contradictions.

    We can argue that he had a Democratic Congress to deal with and that most voters aren’t ideologues, but it would be equally true to say most voters were more interested in watching American Idol than taking the time to research their own candidate. But Reagan WAS an ideologue, just as Obama is. The results they delivered are commensurate with their belief systems. Romney is essentially an accountant.

    FWIW, I’m sure Romney would be considerably more fiscally responsible than BO. But I’m not as convinced he’ll pursue aggressively pro-growth policy so vital to our economy. His 59pt outline underscored that – it was clear that he had a finger in the wind when he wrote it. I don’t think it’s a bad plan, I just think it was written to be as appealing and non-threatening to a broad base as possible. That’s good politics. However, proposing a 25% tax rate when our nearest neighbors are enjoying a 17% tax rate isn’t aggressively pro-growth or even competitive. Very milquetoast. And at the end of the day, so is Romney the candidate, imo.

  • krish

    I am amazed….just this week, Mitt gave a clue what he will do to please the DC crowd…..he will fix the holes in welfare & increase minimum wage? He is a LIBERAL & his first instincts are government solutions to please Liberal Media.

    If this CNN II tier anchor made him stumble & got him to say what he wants to do welfare & come up with policies for middle class & all the Class Warfare rhetoric, imaging full court press by ABC, NBC & CBS liberal spotlight!

    There is No difference between Obama & Romney in most policy issues – Soros is Right! You will never hear raising minimum wages from any of other Republican primary candidates except this fraud from MA. When I hear Rombots call Newt, Santorum or even Paul not conservative, give us a break & go post elsewhere & Not waste our time.

  • nabell87

    A lot of personalities supported Romney in 2008 until people truly started to investigate him. If you remember back to that election we were hit day after day after day with surprising non-conservative stances that Romney has held over his life-time. Each day brought a new flip flop or a new liberal stance. It is amazing how short of a memory we all have. Now we all want to sit back and convince ourselves that somehow Romney has turned into a champion conservative. The only thing that Romney is a champion at is trying to get himself elected

  • streiff

    I’m going to vote for him. I’m not going to support him.. My effort is going to be on working for members of Congress.

    The problem is would you rather Romney win and the press say it was because the conservative base failed to show up (other than the obvious I don’t see this as a bad lesson for who ever runs in 2016 to take away) or do you want President Romney claiming he won without the conservative base, which he will do no matter how we vote?

  • scottishjew

    Jonah said “Vote for Romney because then he will be beholden to you when he becomes President”. That was the entirety of it. Mitt Platitudes doesnt seem to too concerned to get conservative votes now. I dont know why he will suddenly feel beholdened to us once he is in power.

  • JSobieski

    nt

  • aesthete

    the last time you trotted out this crap. Why would Erick waste his time?

  • aesthete

    “Oh, and give him your money, too!”

    A real crowd-pleaser, that one.

  • johnnyqb

    Ann Coulter is unwittingly (Can you believe it! Ann Coulter unwitting? Yes, she has been such, as of late) helping destroy conservatism and therefore, liberty and justice for all” (because Conservatism =Constitutional principals put into policy and laws)……And you, Elpason, are following Ann’s false premise, as you say…….

    “She also supports Romney despite his mistakes because she knows he is way better than Obama, that there is no reason to believe whatsoever that he will do nothing other than repeal Obamacare and he is the only candidate that can beat Obama in November’

    Huh? Mickey Mouse would be much better than Obama. Interpretation: ANYBODY would be better than Obama, however, not just “anybody” can turn our country around at this point. You also say……..”No reason to believe whatsoever that he will do nothing other than repeal Obamacare” ?…..

    Wow. What makes you so sure? Romney really has the track record of being a fearless fighter for going against big government and then accomplishing, through Congress, millions of jobs, lower taxes for all, Welfare reform, and 4 balanced budgets, just to mention a few major accomplishnents by NEWT, all while bringing Bill Clinton to the center to accomplish the task…..

    You must be realistic by looking at the track record of the candidate, while peeling away all the mainstream media exagerrations, distortions, ommissions and outright lies. Get real. Coulter, unfortunately, has her head in the sand, and you have followed suit……

  • Repair_Man_Jack

    has spoken!

  • circlegranch

    Krauthammer, Rush and others have summed it up well this week: we have a weak field left overall and Romney is having trouble expressing conservative views because he’s very new to the entire concept. He’s adopted conservatism for political expediency. His run for the presidency has been a life ambition; at least others in the race — now and previously — stepped up because they were answering the call of duty in response to America being in dire straits. Romney would be running if things were good or bad. It’s about HIM being president; not about stepping up at a time when America is in big trouble.

    Someone commented down thread here that if he loses, he’ll blame the grassroots voters for not showing up and supporting him. What is he doing to attract our support? Rush noted today that he plotted the Trump endorsement to gain Rush and Palin’s support. Everything seems calculated with him, contrived for the sole purpose to get himself elected. There is little that is geniune, real or believable. He’s applying for a job. We are the employer. Why are we supposed to figure out a way to want to hire him? Why isn’t it up to him to give us every reason to have confidence in him and beg him to come to work for us?

  • http://www.whyromney.com Ryan Larsen

    but I remember things differently. I remember people using tangents and insults to avoid discussing the points I raised. You were one of the few who actually engaged on substance, and I appreciated that. But at some point along the way you became apparently bitter, and I don’t know why.

    But the crux of what you’re apparently claiming here is just false. Most of the points I raised in my diaries were never even challenged by the “commentariat.”

    If you’re willing to be civil, I’d be glad to discuss any concerns you may have.

  • Vegas_Rick

    your rationalizations, distortions and out right lies are not finding much of an audience here.

    Most of us here are conservatives of the Reagan variety. Your attempts to twist Romney and his record into something even remotely resembling a conservative are futile.

  • http://www.whyromney.com Ryan Larsen

    For the record, it was not my intention to call him out but to bring the response to his attention in hopes that it will change his mind and resolve some of the concerns he has expressed about Romney.

    I have no means of getting it to him directly, of which I am aware. But I would like him to know about it if that is possible. And I think he would appreciate being aware of it at least. If he decides to ignore it once he is aware of it, that’s fine. But I want to give him the choice. What would you suggest?

  • streiff

    but you don’t matter. Your brother doesn’t matter, even before I banned him and he went to Ben Smith, crying like a little girl. Your silly little blog doesn’t matter. So why would anyone take the time to read that crap much less comment on it.

  • http://www.whyromney.com Ryan Larsen

    I of course disagree with your characterizations of what I’ve written. You’re welcome to your opinion, I don’t hold it against you. I would like to understand your opinion better though, so perhaps you could give an example of something I said that you think is a lie.

  • http://www.whyromney.com Ryan Larsen

    Why don’t I matter?

  • Vegas_Rick

    nt

  • streiff

    who knew you guys could think?

  • circlegranch

    If he took a look at Rick’s voting record in the Senate and his support for Arlen Spector, maybe he’d change his tune that Santorum is the only conservative in the race.

    Upthread, Dr. Bob noted some heavyweight conservatives speaking well of Newt, at least on occasion. I would add Fred Thompson to the list.

  • celador2

    Mr Erickson, Congratulations on being featured in TIME on the status of conservatives. I am proud to have you as a voice in that magazine as you speak well to the basic points of constitutional foundations for policy in the briefs I have read.
    .
    I appreciate your detailed lesson in federalism as you criticize Romney backer Coulter.’s claims Romneycare is free market and conservative. The more details and examples conservatives see and get up the better. I have posted a few lines here and there this last week or so on Romneycare and on Coulter over time as Obamacare is looming decision not only in courts but in the conservative movment itself. Shock jock Coulter’s reviving Romneycare on merit has amplifed an issue that will affect us forever as conservatives.

    She supports on its merits Romney care and says its because a state can do what a president and Congress can not In other words a tyrant governor is legal. Correct, but is his health care program at all to do with free market and personal liberty?

    How do we handle Obamacare if courts uphold some of it or all?
    We must not fall into the trap that because Obamacare may be legal it is sound law. REPEAL it anyway. That takes Senators and reps who agree.

    If the court does as Obama lawyers have requested ,and if the court sever the mandate from the rest of Obamacare, then the health care take- over remains in place as law even if the mandate is declared an over reach of scope of ‘Commerce Clause’ .Obama asks the court that the remainder ACA stand even if mandate is stricken.
    If mandate does not stand and ‘severabilty’ dominates,

    The 700 dollar mandated fine will not be mailed out to uninsured in April 2015. This would be a victory over the unlimited size and scope of ‘Commerce clause.’ of the last 70 years. No fine for breathing.

    But, if the rest of PPACA stands DC panels like IPAB the Medicare cost control will set up a three way medical team in an exam room, patient, doctor and IPAB.

    Romneycare was the model and Romney may be next president despite my doubts..

    Conservatives need work to elect public servants who will do from their hearts and souls with their sacred honor what they know to be right and proper. The Constituion should be the guide or standard in government, the grassroots platform in the party and Conscience in personal and public life.

    Even if it means pressuring the president from GOP these tyranical forms of health care must not be accepted as inevitable.

  • tyman

    I don’t know if Rush is getting lazy or what, but all he’d have to do is see the post that Erick made and it would be as clear as crystal.

    When Rush says conservatism wins every time it’s tried, it must not be true for Santorum. Either that or he got beat so bad because he wasn’t a conservative, and the folks from Pennsylvania knew it.

    As someone else said, Newt was the last member of either party to author a balanced budget. Clinton’s Presidential Museum needs to have a wing devoted to Newt because Clinton would have been a sorry one termer if Newt hadn’t led the Republican takeover, and made Clinton look good in terms of the economy and fiscal state of the nation.

    Santorum has only dreamed of doing what Newt accomplished.

  • trickamsterdam

    I think part of the problem is many here consider him to be an anti-Semite and possibly a racist. I don’t. The truth is though, that an incredible number of jew-haters and racists do support Ron Paul. His refusal to fully distance himself from them cost him credibility.

    Also, lets face it…Rep Paul is not electable. I know the whole point of your post was that sometimes we have to be willing to die on the hill of principle…but at most that would be an Alamo or Goldwater blaze of glory, that yes was a rallying cry that led to later victories…but ultimately it wouldn’t fix any of our problems about what to do about Pres Obama or our country right NOW.

    Also, Gov Perry had a good dose of old school Taft-style conservatism….if he couldn’t sell it, it’s impossible to believe Paul’s much more radical version would sell.

    EE’s adivce to Perry was wise because Perry would have had to drop out anyway. He has a real job, and can’t just waste his time like Sen Santorum if he’s got no money and no shot.

    The advice did come too late. Long before Iowa, I told conservatives here that Speaker Gingrich was the only realistic chance to stop Gov Romney, and if they didn’t rally around him, they’d get Romney…but no one listened.

    Then again, my own calculations were wrong, because I didn’t realize what a glass jaw Romney had until recently…w/ very limited resources and 75% of the conservative wing of the MSM against him, Newt has already managed to raise Romney’s negative rating to 49%….can you imagine what Obama will be able to do w/ far superior resources and 75% of the MSM on his side?

    It’ll be a slaughter, But unlike the Alamo (Goldwater, and probably Newt) Romney’s campaign will be the Bataan Death March…longer, slower, more horrifying, and no glory either.

    Which brings me to the point of yours I agree w/ the most:

    “Look forward to a brokered convention.” – ariyosef

    Exactly, I read an article where the people who calculate these things list the chances of a brokered convention at about 10-15%….the odds may even be a bit better after Romney’s recent gaffes.

    It was essentially the same percentage as Newt winning out-right (the chances of Santorum and Paul were much lower).

    The only way I can see someone being against a brokered convention, is if they believe Romney has a good chance of being elected. I don’t. And the idea that the convention could produce someone w/ a more liberal RECORD (I don’t care what he SAYS, but what he DID, Romney-fans!), is simply ludicrous.

    I’d estimate the chances of each candidate to beat Obama as:

    Romney – 40 – 45%
    Newt – 35%
    Santorum and Paul – Less than 10% (I know some people think Santorum is electable, but I grew up in PA, and believe me, he’s not…he just hasn’t been vetted like the others)

    So you see, Romney is better than the others, but he’s still a heavy-underdog.

    Now compare that to some of the names that might emerge at a brokered convention:

    Ryan. Rubio. Daniels. Thune. Jindal. And yes, even Christie is better…more conservative than Romney, and more electable than Newt or Romney.

    A brokered convention is not only our best chance to beat Pres Obama…it’s likely our only chance!

    BROKERED.CONVENTION.NOW.OR.OBAMA.AGAIN.SOON.

  • Elpasoan

    Latest poll in Texas in late January has Perry’s approval rating in Texas at 40%. It was 50% a year ago. neither are very good in a red state like Texas.

  • Elpasoan

    I didn’t forget. I never knew or cared. I don’t follow every word of every ad of every campaign that that every 2nd tier adviser of a candidate said. What did a candidate say and what are his ads saying. That is it.

  • http://impudent.edublogs.org/ kyle8

    It does not take anything but opening your eyes to see that he is not a good guy. He is conservative, but not reliable, and he has so many damn bad things in his past both personal, professional, and fiscal, that it would be enough to sink even the best candidate.

  • http://impudent.edublogs.org/ kyle8

    I wrote right here on Redstate, early in the primaries that I thought the early attacks against Gingrich was unjustified.

    Then, I did some research and found out I was wrong. They were totally justified and then some.

  • Caleb Howe

    You have been banned. I could go into the reasons, but the main one is that banning you is hilarious. Tell your brother we said hello.

  • aesthete

    And I became irate because you used sophistry and bad logic in lieu of logical argumentation to support your guy dishonestly, when you’re clearly smart enough to see it.

    You’ll note that I don’t take that tack with all, or even most, Romney supporters.

  • aesthete

    nt

  • gfrgfr

    Newt says a lot of things – but when it comes to the crunch he has been rock solid Conservative. All you have to do is look at who is going after thim to see that.

  • acat

    I’m sure this won’t improve the quality of discourse regarding Gov. Romney, but .. it may prevent it getting worse!

    Mew

  • powertothepeople

    the world you live in must be full of pretty pink animals and such.

    I voted for him because he was the best of the worst left, but lets not try to fill people’s shoes with cow crap by trying to call ole Newt a “rock solid Conservative!”

  • iluvit

    I had a very busy private practice and took all patients. It was not a good financial choice for me but I did what I thought was right. I ended up writing off most of the bad debts and never really sued anyone. I ate it. I did not and could not pass on the charges because to really survive in practice you have to join networks where the prices/reimbursements are already set and agreed to. I made a free market and personal decision it was not mandated. Most of my colleagues did not make the same decision but I do not blame them at all. Their choices were equally as good as mine. I would probably not make the same decision again.

    I was faced with the choice to see those who had no health insurance which is a totally different animal that having no healthcare. They may end up with bad credit or a Bankrupcy, but they still get healthcare.

    With regard to Medicare, it has driven a huge number of doctors to stop treating the elderly or only see a small number of new medicare patients each month. It is an abject failure and we are now starting to see the inevitable rationing expand on a logarithmic scale. In many towns and cities, a senior citizen will have quite a difficult time in finding a good doctor to accept them as a new patient and even if they do accept a new patient it may be months of waiting for the first appointment. Remember, we may seem like it sometimes, but doctors are not slaves and are not required to see anyone except when on emergency call. After the emergency is over, there is no requirement to maintain a permanent relationship.

    Medical school applications are down and the admission standards have fallen dramatically. So soon we will feel the crunch just as the baby-boomers hit the Medicare age. The problem we have now is only the tip of the iceberg.

    I still think the answer for all ages is cooperatives where everyone has to pony up at least some amount to have skin in the game. The days of not having to pay even a nominal amount and encourage personal responsibility has to come to an end.

    Wit the uninsured and poor in my practice, I tried to get patients to pay at least $10 a month no matter what their total bill was. Unfortunately, they had money to smoke and drink and play the lottery, but not enough to even pay me $10 a month. Some of those folks were folks that I rescued from certain death. The words “personal responsibility” seems to have been vanquished from our lexicon by the cradle-to-grave-holding-your-hand mentality of the left.

    I have lost all faith that any politician will have the guts to make the tough decisions and Washington will ride the dead horse called Medicare to its last breath. Without the changes being made that affect future enrollees (50 and under at present) it is unsustainable. The clout of the AARP lobby and seniors in general make significant changes impossible because even most Republican will not take a real stand for needed changes. Some will, but enough of them, no. So most likely we are stuck until it fails completely. That is not the best way to solve it, but at least when it fails it can be replaced with a market-doctor-patient-driven plan that might just work. The blending of socialism and capitalism is always doomed from the start. Healthcare is the perfect example world-wide.

  • jakeofalltrades

    And I honestly don’t see why Romney is so hated for his flip flops and statist ideas while Newt is praised in spite of his flip flops and statist ideas. It seems to me the Newtonians doth protest too much.

  • aesthete

    is that conservatives despise all the remaining candidates, and find Newt marginally more acceptable because he has some actual accomplishments in his record, where Romney has “It’s MA; I tried my best” (a completely un-verifiable statement) and stale moderate bilge for conservatives to dine on.

    Newt is scum, and he’s not much of a conservative. He is, record-wise, the best that we’ve got*. Neither of those statements is in conflict with the other, and both describe general conservative sentiment around these parts.

    *RON PAUL exempted on domestic issues, of course.

  • trickamsterdam

    Well, except it’s to protect others from paying bills, they shouldn’t owe…it won’t protect them in any other way.

    So in that sense a Health insurance mandate is doing the same thing. Protecting others from paying for you.

    At a Federal level it’s much more dangerous because of the precedence it sets…while all right-thinking people can agree that a motel or hotel shouldn’t be able to discriminate on race or religion is a good thing…forcing someone to SELL something, and declaring it constitutional, has led to a legitimate defense of being able to force someone to BUY something.

    Personally, I expect the Supreme Court to find ObamaCare to be constitutional, but I hope I’m wrong. Everyone should just remember, they’re bound to a large degree by settled law and precedent…not by whether it’s a good or bad policy.

    The main problem for me, w/ RomneyCare and especially ObamaCare (so much harder to appeal on the Fed level)…is not that it’s a freedom-killer, or even the huge big government Tar Pit…it’s is that it’s a BUDGET BUSTER…if Medicare and Medicaid cost so many hundreds of times more than they did only 40 years ago…what’s ObamaCare gonna cost even 20 years from now?

    That’s why it’s such a joke when you see these middle-aged or younger people saying “my children and grandchildren are going to be bankrupt!”.

    No. If you plan on living another ten or 20 years (which practically everyone who’s not 90 does)…YOU’RE probably going to be BANKRUPT. Seriously.

  • vangoghssister

    Romney is a progressive moderate at best. I’m always curious to know in what state/city those who insist Romney is conservative live. I would imagine if they live in a more left-leaning city or state, then they might actually believe he is conservative, relatively speaking, and therefore themselves. For the rest of us, especially those who supported Perry or even Pawlenty and Bachmann, he is a progressive moderate at best (as mentioned above) and a little to the right of Obama liberal at worst.

    As for myself, I stand with Gingrich. He is inherently more conservative than Romney. As Tercel stated, Gingrich does tend to stray off the reservation, but he always comes back. I know what I’m getting with Gingrich. He’s far from my preferred candidate, Perry, but he’s closer than the other two. Since Gov. Perry has backed Gingrich, and Gingrich has asked him to work with him on 10th Amendment issues, that just reaffirms my own decision. It also gives me confidence that Gingrich will appoint conservatives to his staff, to key positions in government, to federal judgeships, to the Supreme Court.

    I have no confidence in Romney whatsoever. I don’t trust him to appoint conservatives to any position. I don’t trust him period.

    As for those of you who don’t believe women will turn out for Gingrich because of his infidelity, I’ll tell you a little bit about myself. I was married to a serial philanderer and while I abhor what Gingrich has done in his personal life, the fact that I still support him for President should speak volumes as to how I feel about Romney. :-\

    Last, but not least (nor first), I can’t get past the dog on top of the car thing. I’ve found that the way a person treats God’s creatures is often a good indicator how they will treat their fellow human beings. It’s just one more thing Obama will drag into his annihilation of Romney.

    By the way, I’m still waiting for a Romney supporter to lay out exactly how he’ll be able to defend himself against Obama. Not only will they beat him black and blue with a number of issues, simultaneously they’ll praise him for others that match their own viewpoint. I’m not 100% positive Gingrich will win against Obama either, but I do believe he has a better chance than Romney.

  • texayn

    The Romney’s and Boehners are poster-boys for what is wrong with the Republican Party. Compromise rs with men, compromise rs of principle. Bad law, bad policy is not to be compromised with, it is to be defeated. It takes political will and a backbone. These poster-boys will twist in the wind the minute pressure comes…which by the way is how we got into his mess in the first place. If the dollar ceases to be the worlds trading currency, there is no turning back, we as a nation will not recover. That cannot be trusted to a flip-flopper, RINO/DEM who Massachusetts got rid of the first chance they had.

  • texayn

    …is alive and well. It’s not a left wing argument, just ask any American Airlines employee. When Perry called SS a Ponzi Scheme, the left went apoplectic.It took a couple of weeks but the financial press finally admitted, the Ponzi Scheme has been the 2 ton elephant in the room for years, no one would acknowledge. Perry is just ahead of your curve,

  • greyeagle

    I think you are dreaming. Romney said in the debates that he would repeal Obamacare. His campaign and Norm Coleman one of his state chairman says otherwise. He might make some changes, but Obamacare will not be repealed. He is a liberal not conservative.

  • greyeagle

    You are correct. Hannity is a sell out. FOX News is no longer fair and balanced. They have moved left and obviously gave marching orders to their employees. Perry was treated in a disparaging manner and total news black out. I no longer want to listen to anything they say. They have been pushing Romney, because that is what the Republican establishment wanted.

  • avagreen

    customers that were most likely polled.)
    Can’t remember now if it was the Dallas, San Antonio, Austin paper that announced and took this poll.

    Wonder what Romney’s poll would show if the poll was run here on this site? ’bout the same comparison.

  • ArchTriumph

    What I love about Ann is her fiery rhetoric and her legs. And yet she supports Romney, but Mitt just (basically) called her (Miss Incendiary Comment) a nut job. Ann, listen to me: “Mitt is not the guy!”

    Mitt Romney: ‘Not willing to light my hair on fire’ in GOP race

    Los Angeles Times? – 1 hour ago
    … who is ?not willing to light my hair on fire to try and get support.? ?It’s very easy to excite the [Republican] base with incendiary comments– http://www.latimes.com/news/politics/la-pn-romney-not-willing-to-light-my-hair-on-fire-in-gop-race-20120228,0,6293843.story