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The Perversion of the Words of Our Lord Jesus Christ by the Sinner Barack H. Obama

Rembrandt van rijn christ driving the money changers from the temple 16261I’m afraid we need a little Sunday morning theology. Hopefully someone at the White House will read this and realize just how ill advised the President was to do what he did this week and we should be praying hard for him to see the error of his ways on this.

In the Bible we read these things:

“And God blessed them. And God said to them, ‘Be fruitful and multiply and fill the earth and subdue it and have dominion over the fish of the sea and over the birds of the heavens and over every living thing that moves on the earth.’” Gen 1:28 (ESV)

“Did not he who made me in the womb make him? And did not one fashion us in the womb?” Job 31:15 (ESV)

“Your hands have made and fashioned me; give me understanding that I may learn your commandments.” Psalm 119:73 (ESV)

“For you formed my inward parts; you knitted me together in my mother’s womb.” Psalm 139:13 (ESV)

These are clear references to God intending people to procreate and recognize that, even in the womb, God played a vital role in the formation of children and we should not casually destroy life God himself created. These passages of scripture are what inspire so many pro-life advocates to defend the unborn.

Had the President of the United States stood at the National Prayer Breakfast and uttered any of those passages and then announced his intent to protect the unborn, abortion rights advocates would have stormed the White House and the Courts all in the name of separation of church and state. The media would have had on Barry Lynn to proclaim his outrage that the President was mixing religion and politics.

Jim Wallis would have gone on the news to dance around life issues and try his best to neuter God out of them and the media would have treated him as an objective source.

But that’s not what happened.

Instead, the President went to the National Prayer Breakfast and quoted Jesus Christ himself to defend a tax increase. The President paraphrased Luke 12:48, “Everyone to whom much was given, of him much will be required, and from him to whom they entrusted much, they will demand the more.” (ESV) He said it was because he was a Christian that he thought the rich should pay more in taxes.

It’s a good thing President Obama did not draw from Matthew 13:12 instead or the poor would really be screwed.

“For to the one who has, more will be given, and he will have an abundance, but from the one who has not, even what he has will be taken away.” (ESV)

It is worth pointing out that the very same people who would have been outraged had the President quoted clear scripture on life to defend the unborn were willing to be silent or even applaud the President perverting the words of Christ to pursue his tax plan.

It is also worth pointing out that President Obama sat at the feet of Jeremiah Wright for 20 years, so this might be the best he can do.

But we must also point out that Christians have an obligation to pray for their leaders and, given how the President of the United State just twisted the words of our Lord and Savior, we should pray all the more fervently for him because in reading Luke 12:48, he clearly ignored or has no understand of Luke 12:47, the prior sentence, which reads

“And that servant who knew his master’s will but did not get ready or act according to his will, will receive a severe beating.” (ESV)

One must wonder about the Christian grounding of the people in the White House who encouraged the President of the United States to pervert the words of the Living God.

What the President seems not to know is encapsulated well by Breeanne Howe here.

Christ was not talking about money. The President, in making the case for his tax plan using that passage of scripture, perverts Christ’s meaning. Christ was talking explicitly about the blessings flowing from God to the apostles and us through the Word and the need to proclaim Christ as the Living God.

To better understand what Christ was actually talking about, first understand that he was talking about an individual’s relationship with God. In fact, throughout President Obama’s speech he perverted a number of passages from Holy Scripture having to do with an individual’s obligations toward the poor and toward God, co-opting those passages as claims that the state can then tax and spend in the name of Jesus.

I dare say I’d take peddlers of the “social gospel” much more seriously if they concerned themselves first with the actual Gospel as it pertains to men’s salvation and eternity.

Not to delve deep into the theology, but Luke 12:47-48 is reflected in Hebrews 2:1-4, in which the writer preaches,

“Therefore we must pay much closer attention to what we have heard, lest we drift away from it. For since the message declared by angels proved to be reliable, and every transgression or disobedience received a just retribution, how shall we escape if we neglect such a great salvation? It was declared at first by the Lord, and it was attested to us by those who heard, while God also bore witness by signs and wonders and various miracles and by gifts of the Holy Spirit distributed according to his will.”

The Greek used for “pay much closer attention” (prosecho) and “lest we drift away” (pararheo) derive from Greek nautical terminology the original audience would have understood. Prosecho means to tie up or moor a ship in harbor (a metaphor for Christ) and pararheo means to negligently and knowingly let a ship drift past the harbor, or Christ.

In other words, what Christ is telling us in Luke and what the author of Hebrews explains in greater detail is that these passages apply to people who, like the President, claim to be Christians and claim to have experienced blessings in life and then turn their back on or drift away from Christ without securing themselves to him.1

What both Hebrews 2 and Luke 12:47 say that the President conveniently ignored is that anyone who claims to be a Christian or who has experienced the blessings that flow from being surrounded by believers and then does not accept Christ will be judged more harshly on the last day than those who never knew or experienced Christ’s love. Yeah, those levels of hell aren’t just for Catholics. See e.g. Matthew 11:21-22 in which Christ says,

“Woe to you, Chorazin! Woe to you, Bethsaida! For if the mighty works done in you had been done in Tyre and Sidon, they would have repented long ago in sackcloth and ashes. But I tell you, it will be more bearable on the day of judgment for Tyre and Sidon than for you.” [Emphasis added]

Unfortunately for the nation, we have a President who claims to be a Christian who is willing to take God’s Holy Word repeatedly out of context, subsume God’s commands for individuals in their conduct with each other and with Him, and try to make the case for the government’s fiscal policy with that perversion.

Contrast that with his other actions this week.

The President, through the Department of Health and Human Services, has ordered religious organizations — targeting more specifically the Catholic Church — to offer health plans that cover the costs of contraceptives and abortifacient drugs. I started this post with, unlike the President’s use of Luke and Proverbs, un-perverted scripture Christians use to show their objections to abortion. But moreso, these are non exhaustive passages of scripture Catholics rely on as foundations both to their opposition to abortion and to contraception. God himself said, “Be fruitful and multiply.”

The President this week chose to pervert God’s Word to make the case for a tax increase, but he also chose to ignore God’s word on life and is ordering Christians, while he claims to be one, to violate their Christian conscience on abortion — requiring Christian organizations to provide health insurance that will cover the cost of drugs that induce abortions.

He is trying to have it both ways. He is trying to use God’s Word to defend a tax policy that dissuades individuals from giving gladly and charitably to the poor as God instructs and is ignoring God’s Word in order to force fellow Christians into violating their Christian conscience — something about which God cares a great deal.

This cannot end well for him, particularly doing this claiming to be a Christian. And it might not end well for the rest of us either. Barack Obama has gone to war with Christians’ consciences and he is perverting God’s word in the process to get his way on public policy.

“First of all, then, I urge that supplications, prayers, intercessions, and thanksgivings be made for all people, for kings and all who are in high positions, that we may lead a peaceful and quiet life, godly and dignified in every way.” 1 Timothy 2:1-2 (ESV)

Pray hard. The President needs it.


  1. Some very silly secularists proving they have no clue what they are talking about have taken issue with my use of the word “claim” in this paragraph. It’s not that I am expressing or casting doubt on the President’s faith or my own. I’d use the word about myself too. The point is that this scripture applies to (1) people who claim, or hold themselves out to be, Christians and (2) those who have experienced the blessings derived from God unto Christians. The President explicitly said he was Christian in his speech. When a person says they are a Christian, the presumption for other Christians is that they must be Christian. The silly leftwing secularists attacking me here are proving their very deep and real ignorance about orthodox Christianity and their hostility to it as well.

COMMENTS

  • kipling

    Scripture takes a dim few toward both. Something about millstones and be marked out for destruction. See Matthew 18:6 and Jude. Matthew 18:6 may be a double whammy.

    I will pray for the President and for this to be a wake up call to Christians in the United States.

  • http://www.timothy-bladel.com/ center77

    I really like those who are not going to hide their faith to try and advance in the MSM, it seems odd, but some just mention the war, but never go into full defense of the faith.

    All I can really say is it is just awesome.

  • WillWong

    I will be the first to admit that it is really difficult to pray for Obama. This is perhaps politically incorrect to say but Obama is so anti-
    Christ or anti-Christian. For the sake of discussion, should one pray for the anti-Christ? Or for Judas Ischariot?

  • http://www.erickerickson.org Erick Erickson

    Thanks.

  • http://www.erickerickson.org Erick Erickson

    Yes.

  • tonotisto

    BO proudly proclaimed that he is a praying Christian.

    Yes, I know it was a prayer breakfast.

    But, he was more emphatic about his being a Christian than at any other such preceding event .

    He even made it sound as if his every decision is founded in his faith.

    Considering that most likely his Repub opponent will be a Mormon, this is political subtext at its worst/best.

    Not fair, just politics,

    The Left is allowed this blatant postering, the Right would be cruc……umm loudly denounced.

  • WillWong

    Frankly, i do not see anything that is not too low for Obama!

  • WillWong

    I will pray that Obama’s anti-American policies will fail. I will pray that God will have mercy on Mt. Obama and his family. He needs it! And I will pray for God’s mercy on America and spare us from another 4 years of Obama. Having said that, i do believe we will get a President we deserved!

  • ladyliberty12

    Ever since Obama went to Georgetown in 2009 and had Christ covered on all the crucifixes there before his speech..I knew it would not end well for him.. I pray for him and I also pray for him to be voted out in November!

    Thank you Erick for your steadfast defense of Christians and our right to worship and practice our faith freely.

    Monica

  • http://MichaelHarrington.org creinstein

    I am surprised Obama did not use that line.

    For he is surely Nero with the Fiddle. Burning down Rome so he could rebuild it in his view.

  • renny

    not exactly saying what he was before that. The conversion is recorded in his own books. But, of course, his baptismal cert. is missing.

    And then he spent 20 years listening to the Right Rev, scream about evil white people and monkey Jews, so if o is a little weak on actual textural scripture, he probably missed a lot of nuance while he was avoiding Wright’s harangues by not hearing anything the preacher shouted for two decades.

    And, if the LEFT, that abjures religion as anything except a prop, cannot misuse the Bible and the New Testament in particular to try and enforce its distorted view of charity and poke a middle finger in the great electorate’s eye trying to find more white guilt in there somewhere, what good is posing as a Christian worth?

    Give the guy a break and relieve him of his stupidity by VOTING FOR ANYBODY BUT OBAMA IN 2012.

  • renny

    otherwise I pray for myself that I will be able to survive being an old person in this dreadful ec. and current mobster DC admin.

  • romansdaughter

    that it will be very hard for me to do this, as I despise the man but you are right, Jesus says Pray for our enemies. I want to thank you Erick for doing this article and standing up for Christians.

  • johnt

    I don’t know, I’ve been reading the NY Times and other “reliable” sources and the lines seem to be blurring. I mean, who gets more attention, who is praised more, seems perfect, jogs across stages in his shirtsleeves, & talks jive at the Apollo theatre?
    Obama hasn’t walked on water yet but he is working on ways to put it in our gas tanks. And like God’s Son he believes in rendering unto Caesar. Boy does he believe in rendring unto Caesar. In any case he, Obama, is worshipped, and you can’t put any other Gods before him.

  • abeldred

    though it may seem justified with regard to O and his actions are clearly not Christlike either, and we as followers are called to do better. It is difficult on most days not to stand in judgement of this man as I believe he is evil and the Bible also is clear about how God feels about evil. I try to pray for him and I am praying for our nation. I do believe all things that O says and does are calculated and I don’t think that invoking his alleged Christianity with Mittens in the wings is no mistake. (One can be sure that the Mormanism will be brought up in the general). However, if he’s going to quote Scripture he should learn how to do it without throwing up in his mouth because he’s simply not credible. And as you so eloquently articulated Erick, his hypocrisy is glaring. We must all pray for our nation and relief from this tyranny. I hope that God’s answer is not “no”.

  • http://www.examiner.com/x-1597-Charlotte-Law--Politics-Examiner Mike gamecock DeVine

    to the suffering there for over a decade vs his action in Uganda. Reminds of Carter’s focus on tin pot dictators while ignoring the Evil empire.

  • http://www.examiner.com/x-1597-Charlotte-Law--Politics-Examiner Mike gamecock DeVine

    and on the radio. God bless.

  • circlegranch

    Your Christmas morning message was very inspiring. In the midst of these daily battles about whom will lead and whom is fit to lead, we often lose sight that as a people, we are called to follow. Our forgetfulness in not humbly following is surely the cause of our great tumult.

    I have personally maintained that the election of BHO was a wake up call from Heaven to America. Sadly, I fear too few of us have heeded the warning. The idea of living a unfruitful life, taking money and orders from the federal govt. seems superior now to living a life of freedom, striving for ones’ personal best. Excellence is simply too much work. We have been lulled into a fitful slumber. Like sliding into an unhealthy personal relationship or falling prey to the charms of a drug dealer, we know in our souls it’s wrong, it won’t end well, yet the lure is strong and besides, so many others are falling for it, too.There’s always safety in the herd mentality.

    Mitt Romney will not defeat the president with the watered-down rhetoric that passes for red meat he’s tossing out to crowds following his victories. The govt will craft an economic message that points to recovery, things getting better, and look, soldiers are coming home from money-pit wars, plane load after plane load. Happy days are here again, if we’ll just listen to the govt and follow loyally. We may not feel like we’re in recovery but if that’s what we’re told and all the numbers put out by the govt point to it, then it must be so.

    If Romney and his PAC’s don’t come out strong as EE did here, calling out the president for his personal shortcomings, his misunderstanding of the faith that our nation was founded upon, if somebody doesn’t finally put the truth about his background and associations out in places beyond Fox News, he will be re-elected. The message will be that the economy is better and if it isn’t such for you, there’s a new program coming to save you. We will not win on the economic message with this particular candidate. We must dig deeper into the coming doom for America if the present policies, foreign and domestic are not reversed. If we don’t peel back the layers on our president’s agenda, why change horses? Romney will be portrayed as a Wall Street fat cat, an insensitive rich guy that has no clue what struggle is about.

    The fact remains, turn out at all the early primaries and caucuses is low, much to the surprise and concern of the GOP and RNC. They were confident that all the lethargy and disheartened feelings inflicted on the party by the misery of the McCain campaign had vanished. They believed they could prop up an attractive, rather articulate candidate of THEIR choice and in response to fear and loathing of Obama, Republicans would stand in line for hours to get a chance to cast a primary/caucus straw poll vote. The opposite is occurring, yet they can’t figure out why and they are getting worried. If registered Republicans aren’t excited about their Chosen One, what will Independents and disgruntled Democrats think of him?

    Fox News and the RNC, along with a host of ruling class Republicans around the country are touting Romney’s win in NV. He’s favored to win Tues. in Colorado and perhaps MN and OH, also. He’s winning, but he’s winning ugly. Exit polling reveals a troubling percentage of people have settled for him. That’s very different than rallying around him. Energy for Mr. Romney is actuallly quite stagnant. In my circle of political friends, there is resignation. They have decided to support Romney but not because they trust him, not because they are confident he’ll govern as a conservative, but rather, they know the force of the GOP ruling class and the money will be behind him. Any attempt to fight that will be futile.

    We find ourselves in quite a predicament. We have about half of Americans that have quietly slid into the arms of the federal govt. They have given up on themselves and their futures. They have joined the ranks of those that believe there’s honor in lost hope in American exceptionalism and their newly found victimhood. No longer are people receiving checks from the govt a minority, most everyone we know gets some form of assistance, too. It’s guys like Mitt Romney that should cough up more so we can sustain the meager lives we’ve decided are good enough for ourselves and our posterity. The counter attack to such apathy and despair should have come in 2012. A standard-bearer of conservatism, small govt., transparency in govt., balanced budgets, a revitalization of the 10th Amendment, spending freezes and cuts and more should have received every ounce of support from the GOP.

    John Adams cautioned near the end of his life that if future generations of Americans didn’t protect and defend the founding principles the nation was founded upon, he would repent in Heaven for having devoted so much time to the cause. In the struggles of John Adams’ time, men like him worried if we would preserve America; they wondered if their sacrifice would be remembered and would serve as a lesson to us that we, too, must fight on, struggle in our own time, and sacrifice. We know John Adams worried about what we’d do with our liberty and freedom; unfortunately, we are justifying that concern.

  • Common_Cents

    nt

  • romansdaughter

    So true all of it.

  • josephine

    Thank you so much for your writings this morning. I will continue to pray for Obama’s salvation.
    I have been thinking for sometime about the very fact: ” how Obama wound up as the president of a Christian nation”. Could it be that God put Obama in our lives to bring the Christians and the non believers closer to Him.? In reflection,for many years I noticed that the conversations and discussions going on around me in everyday life did not concern religion and more pointedly, Jesus Christ. Over the past three years I’ve noticed that change. I am amazed at what I’m hearing everywhere I go. It is so obvious that it can’t be ignored. Christ is becoming the center of many more people’s lives.
    Obama has trashed the scripture with his blatant and purposeful distortions, and the unintended consequences may defeat him. Obama is certainly living dangerously. And with his declaration of his Christianity, and the use of it in government functions opens the door for us. I’ll continue to pray for his salvation and his removal from the office of potus.I’ll also pray for myself for being a bit of a hypocrite in this area.

  • romansdaughter

    as the wrath of God is going to fall upon him just like King Nebuchadnezzar in the Bible when he thought himself God..God had to humble him. As he very much portrays he thinks of himself very highly.

  • WillWong

    As early as 2007, I have toyed with a different angle. As a student of eschalogy, I was fascinated with the analogy of Obama and Jesus Christ. His unabashed rehashing of popular lines of the day including this one,”contrary to popular belief, I am not born in a manger” at the DC press corp dinner told me he is a guy who could easily play John the Baptist to the Anti-Christ if not the man himself.

    Since then, the idea has been reinforced over and over again. Just as John the Baptist prepared the way for the Lord, Obama is preparing the way for the One World Order by decimating the one and only road block….a strong, free, America with its constitutional focus on individual freedom and liberty. Give him 4 more years and he will complete his job!

  • bardamu

    Mr. Erickson figures out that anybody can support any argument by finding an appropriate passage from the Bible. He the proceeds to reserve that right to people whose beliefs are identical to his own. Mr. Erickson, you have no more right to claim exclusive knowledge of what the Bible “means” than does the President. The difference is he isn’t denying you your right to interpretation, yet you would deny him his (apparently in part because he’s a “sinner,” although I thought we were all sinners). Pride cometh before a fall, sir.

  • WillWong

    Hope and Change…and pictures of Obama with a big O(for halo) over his head were the slogans of the day…..all spiritual dimensions and none on policies or record. Can’t recall any presidential candidate campaigning solely on spiritual dimensions.

  • WA_Cowboy

    I know, using Scripture in context is a difficult thing. Its hard to ask, “What did the writer actually mean when he wrote this?”

    you did a good job of actually taking sections in their context. Appreciate when I see people using the Bible correctly.

  • WillWong

    The Bible is not open to any interpretation to anybody and it certainly does not have many different interpretations. There is only one interpretation but possibly several applications. The Bible is the Inspired, Inerrant and Infallible Word of God to those who choose to handle it with fear and trembling hands.

  • WA_Cowboy

    When a modern reader forces a meaning that the original speaker did not intend onto a passage — that is a false interpretation.

    It is like quoting Ronald Reagan saying “Mr Gorbachev, tear down this wall” and saying that he meant that we should join together and become communists with them. Nobody in their right mind would argue that this is what Reagan meant. How do we know that? because of his context.

    in the same way, in many places the Bible is very easy to interpret if you read the context — which is what Mr. Erickson did well, and Mr. Obama did atrociously.

    “Love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you.”

  • WA_Cowboy

    from me too.

  • Justin_Case

    are perfect example of selective reading and interpretation of the Bible.

    When asked when life begins during the campaign of 2008, he stated that it was above his pay grade.

    Anyone who seriously considers his references to the Bible is being mislead. However, I have long been of the belief that his followers understand his need to lie in order for him to gain votes. They like being lied to and understand the expediency he exhibits by quoting Scripture.

  • trutexan

    nt

  • annie54

    “This cannot end well for him, particularly doing this claiming to be a Christian. And it might not end well for the rest of us either. Barack Obama has gone to war with Christians? consciences and he is perverting God?s word in the process to get his way on public policy.”

    BECAUSE of the responsibility an elected leader holds. Obama is treading close to an unmarked fine line due to his narcissism. The majority of the American people put him in that position and might, again. That incriminates us, also.

  • romeg

    Thank you Erick for your fearlessness in taking the Hypocrite-in-Chief to task.

  • bardamu

    All I’m saying is there are lots of ways to approach a text as complicated as the Bible. Think about what we’re arguing over: this is a translation of a translation of a translation, etc. The history of the western world is littered with the bodies of people who disagreed over the original intent of the author(s) of the Jewish and Christian Bibles. How many deaths are attributable to disputes over transsubstantiation, to take just one example? It’s not just a question of context. What does context mean anyway? The sociohistorical context? Historians generally agree that the Gospels were not written by contemporaneous witnesses of the events they describe. Does that mean the Gospels are “wrong” whatever that means? I don’t think so. I just wish we could celebrate the richness of this text without using it as an excuse for intolerance and a means to beat each other up.

  • throwback59

    I thought the exact same thing when I heard Obama: What would Jesus say about abortion?
    Amazing that we have the most anti-Christian president in history trying to use Christs’ words to advance an anti-Christian agenda.

  • z06gal

    It was sickening to hear Obama make the comment in one of his first speeches, “There will be no torture on my watch” yet he will be directly responsible for the murder of millions funded by the American taxpayer. Wow To say that he needs prayer is an understatement

  • citadelveteran

    I would agree with part of the president’s statement. True much is expected of those to whom much is given. But why to the liberal mind is responsibility solely limited to an expectation of the successful to fund their feel good, well intentioned, ineffective, and fatally flawed programs?

    I argue regularly w/ liberals about whose responsibility is it to help people in need? They point to the government. I point to them., their neighbors, and to myself. It is not enough to just care. Results matter. Charity matters. I ask that when they stand before their maker is it sufficient to say it was government’s responsibility, not mine.

    Results matter. Intentions are not worth warm spit.

  • izoneguy

    A long and well deserved retirement in 2012……

  • http://www.timothy-bladel.com/ center77

    it still seems to fit the bill.

  • redcometchar2010

    Bardamu, that’s why I believe in the teaching authority of the Catholic Church. Christ Himself established it as His true Church so that we can have somebody teach us properly. Now, I know many people here are Protestants, so I don’t want to start an inter-denomiational flame war here, but that’s the way I see it.

    You also mention the Gospels and eyewitnesses. They were all written within the lifetimes of eyewitnesses (even John). Heck, Mark was written within 40 years (at most) of Jesus’ death. Paul’s letters are dated even earlier. So, we have pretty good sources (at least date-wise) for the teachings of Christ and the Apostles.

  • jimkress999

    The moral imperatives asked of us by the Christ are our PERSONAL responsibility.

    These moral standards are between each individual and God, not the government and God and not the government and the individual. Using government force to steal from some of us and then distributing that stolen property to others DOES NOT SATISFY the Christ’s imperatives to us. As a matter of fact it offends Him, since so called “charity” resulting from theft is a clear violation of the “Thou Shall Not Steal” Commandment and is a sinful act.

    We are accountable only to God for our charitable and moral actions, not the government. This is yet another area where the government has no business getting involved.

    It is an individual responsibility, not a collective one.

  • jimkress999

    “Progressives/ Liberals” are all Fascists (they worship government as god). Therefore, since their deity is government, concentration of power in government (as opposed to ‘man’ or ‘business’) must, by definition, be beneficent.

    That explains their insistence that “Government Good, Business Bad” and their religious aversion to allowing businesses to engage in Capitalism or people to have the free will to select their own paths through life.

    Fascism (and it’s related ‘isms’ like Progressivism, Liberalism, Socialism, Communism, etc.) is a DIRECT CONTRAVENTION of God’s REQUIREMENT that mankind have FREE WILL.

    In-as-much-as this is the case, Fascism (and its related ‘isms’) is a sin and will be treated by God as such.

  • jimkress999

    Economies are divided according to 2010 GNI per capita, calculated using the World Bank Atlas method. The groups are: low income, $1,005 or less; lower middle income, $1,006 – $3,975; upper middle income, $3,976 – $12,275; and high income, $12,276 or more. For comparison, the 2010 US Census Bureau sets the US “Poverty Threshold” at $14,200 for a family of 2 adults.

    Note: even the “poor” in the US are in the high income ranking set by the World Bank. That means, according to Obama, Reid, Stabenow, and the rest on the Left, every citizen of the US is “Rich” and must be taxed punitively as punishment for their crime.

    U.S. DEPARTMENT OF COMMERCE

    BUREAU OF THE CENSUS

    WASHINGTON, D.C. 20233

    PRELIMINARY ESTIMATE OF WEIGHTED AVERAGE POVERTY THRESHOLDS FOR 2010

    Poverty Threshold Data

    Size of Family Unit Estimated Threshold

    1 person (unrelated individual)……………………………..????. $11,136

    Under 65 years ……………………………………………………??. 11,344

    65 years and over ……………………………………………….??.. 10,458

    2 people ……………………………………………………………….?.. $14,220

    Householder under 65 years ?……………………………???? 14,676

    Householder 65 years and over …………………………..???? 13,195

    3 people ……………………………………………………………….?.. $17,378

    4 people ……………………………………………………………….?.. 22,314

    5 people ……………………………………………………………….?.. 26,417

    6 people ……………………………………………………………..??. 29,887

    7 people …………………………………………………………….??.. 33,919

    8 people …………………………………………………………….??.. 37,863

    9 people or more ………………………………………………….??? 45,094

    Note: The preliminary estimates of the weighted average poverty thresholds for 2010 are calculated by multiplying the 2009 weighted average thresholds by a factor of 1.016403, the ratio of the average annual Consumer Price Index for All Consumers (CPI-U) for 2010 to the average annual CPI-U for 2009. These estimates may differ slightly from the final thresholds that will be published in September 2011 with the release of the official poverty estimates for 2010. If you have any questions concerning these poverty thresholds, please call (301) 763-2422.

    Data Date: January 14, 2011

    .

  • aesthete

    The LRA in central Africa contends that the Bible compels them to rape women, engage in cannibalism, and recruit child soldiers for their purposes. Suffice it to say, their interpretation is incorrect.

    Only a coward, a fool, or a sycophant would say that all interpretations of a given work are equally valid: you can figure out which category you belong to.

  • aesthete

    The vast majority of the imperatives in the Old Testament not having to do with individuals are specific to the unique covenant between God and the ancient nation of Israel.

    The rest are of a “repent or be destroyed” variety.

    There isn’t much at all that is addressed to governments, and absolutely nothing that demands a specific type of government, or specific laws in government today.

  • http://www.examiner.com/x-1597-Charlotte-Law--Politics-Examiner Mike gamecock DeVine

    endoftee

  • timwayne

    I don’t think the bible is a good foundation for being pro-life. Gen 2:7 says “then the LORD God formed the man of dust from the ground and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life, and the man became a living creature.” which to me, means according to the bible, someone is not considered a living creature until they’ve breathed their first breath. I disagree with this, so I don’t base my beliefs on the bible, but more on common sense.

  • salj

    May Lord help the only presidential Candidate that will rule according to his will become the next president of this Country.

  • lineholder

    Talk about striking someone’s conscience! This is something that I’ve failed in doing. I’m not happy about it. And after reading your last paragraph, my initial response was to try to justify my own failure! But I know that what you have written here is very much so the truth and that it is the right thing to do.

    It’s just very hard to offer up a prayer to God that is genuine and sincere for someone when you dislike them intensely, don’t trust them a lick, and have even developed a fair amount of resentment towards them. I’ve let my emotions get in the way. I didn’t mean to or intend to, but I have.

    I have my share about questions about to what extent God honors prayers that aren’t genuine and sincere. I may have to start with asking Him to forgive me for letting my emotions get in the way of doing what is right. And I can with genuine sincerity ask it of God to be merciful to our nation and to provide our leaders with insight, discernment, prudence and wisdom. I can do this much.

    Just wanted to say thank you.

  • Marcus_Traianus

    This from a man who, from back to the beginning of his campaign, until this day, seemed to ignore the Christian religion in his attempt to be “everyman”. He voted in the Illinois Senate to essentially murder children who survived an abortion…and made an argument for his vote. Funny- where were the Biblical references then?

    We listened to the gratuitous, ignominious tripe of his pastor-mentor Reverend Wright and were told to ignore it also. That is was some type of fluke with which Mr. Obama was not associated.

    Nary a Christian holiday or religious occurrence has gone by over three years that Mr. Obama has honored in any meaningful way. He is the most nonreligious President in recent memory; up to this point.

    Now during a campaign we are lectured by him on the Word of our Savior? After he just once again told us that in his healthcare law our conscience and vow to God has no meaning?

    I can think of nothing more disreputable, contrived, spurious and atrociously political. Hath he no shame before God? Apparently not.

  • http://moelane.com/ Moe Lane

    By the way: appreciate how you blamed 9/11 on us here. Made it really, really easy to assess your case.

  • Locked and Loaded

    is well exemplified in the title of your post.

  • annie54

    n/t

  • http://www.mont-sterreport.com The MonT-SteR

    And speaking as a seminary grand and volunteer pastor, I think your exposition and application of Scripture is right on target.

    It’s easy to feel nothing but outrage and indignation at these sorts of things. I think those reactions have their place (“Be angry, but do not sin…” -Eph. 4:26), but Christians ought to be motivated by an overriding redemptive concern as well. Vis-a-vis the President’s eisogetical escapade, you are right to call us to humble and fervent intercession.

    Thanks for taking the time to write this.

  • runner12

    NT

  • mike57

    The President should have quoted James 2:15-16:

    “If a brother or sister is naked and destitute of daily food, and one of you says to them, “Depart in peace, be warmed and filled,” but you do not give them the things which are needed for the body, what does it profit? James 2:15-16 (NKJV)

    Instead of Luke 12:48:

    “But he who did not know, yet committed things deserving of stripes, shall be beaten with few. For everyone to whom much is given, from him much will be required; and to whom much has been committed, of him they will ask the more.” Luke 12:48 (NKJV)

    He might have spoken judgment on himself, as you mentioned. But I won’t speak judgment on the President, because I am also a sinner, saved only through the atoning blood of Jesus Christ. Neither will I judge as to whether he is or is not a Christian.

    However, as Christians, we are equally committed to seeing that those who are in need are cared for. Today that is being done my government, and done very poorly. How much better to return the care of the poor to the churches and to private organizations.

    Again, great post. Thanks!

    Mike

  • tjparker

    Praise be to Jesus and His Prophet Joseph Smith and the loyal Willard Mittard Romney! May the Angel Moroni and the Prophet President Monson guide him to victory in November and in the Celestial Kingdom!

  • tjparker

    The Sermon on the Mount sure isn’t in any Bible that I read! I think Barry O. must be reading the KORAN!

  • tjparker

    The Hebrew Bible bid individuals to treat others as they would be treated themselves. Jesus took this a step further: you are commanded to LOVE your enemies.

    Absent love for your enemies, you are not Christians. Or you’re very poor ones.

  • tjparker

    Mitt can counter with passages from the Book of Mormon and a prayer to Moroni. Heck, if he needs it, I’m sure he can get the President of the Mormon Church to appear at some of his events: A living breathing PROPHET who TALKS TO GOD. Obama can’t even come close to anything like that!

  • tjparker

    So saith the Lord.

    I.e. pay your taxes and stop grumbling about it.

  • kipling

    The passage that Mr. Obama cited is not from the Sermon on the Mount. Even a cursory read of the passage in Luke 12 demonstrates that Mr. Obama purposely distorted Scripture to suit his own purposes.

    Take your baloney and peddle it elsewhere.

  • jpshinn

    Very well said. Don’t also forget the Gospel of Luke (1:41 from Douay-Rheims): “And it came to pass, that when Elizabeth heard the salutation of Mary, the infant leaped in her womb.”

    Not the blob of flesh or embryo. Rather, the babe.

  • aj5443

    Is it wrong for me to ask if Obama’s new excitement over being “Christian” has anything to do with Mittens Romney being a Mormon?

    If so, this is a pretty sad play for a man that clearly knows as much about the bible as he does about economics….just how to wreck the meaning of both!

    I pray for Obama often, but probably not often enough. We should also be praying for Christians who support him. and anyone else blinded by the hypocrisy of the sad man, Obama.

  • Adjoran

    he also hates AmeriKKKa with a fevered passion. Hard to attend his sermons roughly every other week for 20 years (according to Obama’s own account) without noticing that. You either believed it, or you left, IMHO.

    I mean, if your church is preaching something antithetical to your own values, wouldn’t you just find another?

  • Adjoran

    Thousands of scholars have devoted their entire lives to it. The Pope spent the last decade or two supervising the study of theology.

    Some would substitute their own contemporary opinions for the solemn scholarship of the ages. That is their choice, but they lack the foundation to assert authority.

  • davesinsanantonio

    Mormons pray to God the Father, not to Moroni. The president of the Church does not put in appearances at political events. Nor does the Church endorse candidates or allow endorsements by members from the pulpit.
    The Church encourages members to study the issues and the candidates and to support the ones they individually believe are best for the nation.
    Please stop spreading scurrilous nonsense about Mormons and their beliefs. Thank you.

  • khhunt

    the God card.

    liberals turn to God for help when in need, that is a first step!

    Everything the president says is Backwards World–his reading of scripture is no different from anything else.

  • HSMom

    James 2:19, “You believe that there is one God. Good! Even the demons believe that–and shudder.”

    Nuf said.

  • nunleigh

    by their fruits. As a newly born-again Christian, it is clear to me through Scripture that judging others and second guessing what is in their hearts is not acceptable to God, but recognizing those who claim to be Christians yet do not apply the law to their lives is a duty of believers. Praying for them, and warning them is also a Christians duty. I pray that my brethren will warn me if my fleshly arrogance leads me astray. Erick, you are doing the right thing to warn and to pray. God blessed you with your courage.

  • WillWong

    Welcome to the family!

  • nunleigh

    what is Caesar’s. Christ taught his followers to obey the laws of man as long as you are personally not breaking God’s law. The taxes we pay belong to the governement. Salvation does not come to us by how the government spends the money. It is what we do as individuals to our fellow man that pleases God or not. Obama, through Rev Wright, believes in collective salvation and liberation theology. I feel great pain for anyone who thinks at trip to church or giving taxes is all they need to do to please God. I, too am praying for our President and all of mankind.

  • nunleigh

    through strangers! My prayers are answered. Praise God.

  • vtdelacy

    Of course he was going to take Scripture verses out of context, he’s not even a Christian! This is the same Occupant of the Oval Office who has consistently rejected observance of the National Day of Prayer ever since he got into office while at the same time embracing celebrations of Muslim Ramadan there for the first time in our history. The Koran incites radical Muslims to murder Christians and Jews in the name of Allah and this man will not so much as permit a use of the expression “War on Terror” regarding those who killed over 3,000 of our innocent citizens on 9/11/01 and then expected us to take added insult to injury by allowing the building of a victory mosque at Ground Zero. Wake up, America – Barrack Hussein has got to GO!

  • houdini1984

    You almost seem to be suggesting that the Genesis scripture is somehow incompatible with the many other scriptures in the Bible that make it so abundantly clear that God formed us in the womb, and even knew us while we were in the womb. I would urge you to not be deceived about this issue.

    The Bible has no errors or passages that conflict with one another. In this case, the apparent contradiction is simple to understand. The “dusty” beginning that you cite recounts God’s creation of Adam directly from the dust of the earth. Obviously, every human being born after that initial creation had different origins.

    As a result, Eve was made from one of Adam’s ribs, while every human after that was born from the union of man and woman. Since the Genesis passage was a recounting of man’s origins as a species and not a statement on when life actually begins for Adam;s descendants, there is no contradiction between that Genesis passage and those cited by Erick.

  • mkozikowski

    Like we see in N. Korea with the Il family, then the phraseology, “Everyone to whom much was given, of him much will be required, and from him to whom they entrusted much, they will demand the more” makes clear sense.

    Obama is the one who is Giving. We are the ones Receiving. So IF he GIVES us more, (jobs, cars, houses, school, etc) then expects us to return it through our TAXes.

    It makes perfect sense, in a perverted way. The rewriting of history, and it’s meaning know no bounds. He is rewriting text books, political history, business and contract law, our own Constitution. Heck, The Bible is just another book to him. Once easily rewritten to center around HE (The One Obama) instead of God.

    When The Devil comes knocking, will he appear in red satin with horns and a tail?
    OR
    Will he appear as your best friend, wanting to GIVE you all you desire?

  • houdini1984

    Can I assume from your sarcasm that you would prefer to have the current President – who expresses open disdain for the Christian faith with his actions and stands in opposition to every positive thing that Republicans in the House try to achieve – than Romney?

    At least with Romney, we would have someone who acknowledges the role of Jesus Christ in his life, and who would not actively work to obstruct the Republican agenda. Yes, he is a Mormon – and they do indeed have beliefs that are far outside those shared by mainstream Christians – but at least he has not already demonstrated himself to be an avowed enemy of all that is good and true.

  • zeprin

    After all, Pols have been doing this for 2,000 years now.
    You’d think they’d learn. When too blatant or heavy handed it just makes them look foolish and dishonest. Or even more so in this case. It’s reached the point where those who these cons are aimed at, the believing portion of the populous, is more conversant with Scripture than the Flimflam Artist who is spouting it. Especially so in this case. As Anyone with eyes to see and ears to hear, knows that this man believes in nothing but himself and his ability to lie and get away with it.

  • geah

    love your enemies and pray for them BUT, you must not fall into their ways, you must not walk with them in harmony. there is much in my wonderful old Bible about separation from those who walk without
    the Master.

  • znjs

    And if not can we start?

  • SpiderMike

    Galatians 1:9 (ESV)
    9 As we have said before, so now I say again: If anyone is preaching to you a gospel contrary to the one you received, let him be accursed.

    Folks, this president is not a Christian. I implore you to visit the web site of Obama’s Chicago “church”: www.tucc.org
    Obama was not brought to the Christ you know. Trinity United doctrine is not the Holy Scriptures but the black liberation theology of James H. Cone. This man Obama perverts Christianity to advance a Leninist agenda.

    2 Corinthians 11:14
    And no wonder, for even Satan disguises himself as an angel of light.

  • geah

    ministers of the Gospel agree with you on this, I have been taught the same thing and yes did not publish on this site, Don’t ask do not know why, this nation has murdered over 50 million babies and their blood cries and God hears, thanks our very brave today Mr O is being used by God and all of heaven is waiting.

  • kchenault

    The bible also tells us that by praying and loving our enemies, that we heap burning coals on their heads. Should we do that as well tjparker? When God tells His followers to do something it is always in the context of doing what is righteous in God’s eyes and that will build up the believer. The enemies get the added benefit of being treated kindly and through that treatment come to know Christ.

    Scripture also says: For even when we were with you, we used to give you this order: if anyone is not willing to work, then he is not to eat, either. (2 Thessalonians 3:10 NASB)

    The context here being that while they stayed with fellow believers they worked for their food and necessities so as not to be a burden on anyone. So, using BO’s logic on Scripture, the State should not be giving the poor any foodstamps because they don’t work. NO WORK, NO FOOD.

    Maybe you should bone up on your scripture and your understanding of God’s Word so you get it right. Having said that though, as a believer, I know through God’s Word that unless you believe, you will truly never understand God’s Word. I pray that you will see the light.

  • simplethinker

    If people have to be scholars to have authority, all of the earliest Christians should have been trumped by those who had the most scholarly backgrounds at the time of Christ–the scribes and Pharisees, etc.

    On the contrary, Peter was praised by the Savior for placing faith above the current worldly wisdom when he said “Blessed art thou Simon… for flesh and blood hath not revealed this unto thee, but my Father which is in Heaven.”

    Scholarly study does not give one authority to speak for God. Those who claim authority based on their own scholarship immediately lose credibility. Peter had authority to speak for God because God specifically gave him that authority, and then told him what to say and do. The same was true with all prophets in scripture. Scriptural prophets were rarely chosen from the ranks of leading religious scholars of their time. In speaking of this authority, the NT teaches “no man taketh this honor unto himself, except he that is called of God, as was Aaron.”

  • Bill S

    And the answer is: we don’t have a set policy dictating this. The fact that birtherism/Muslimerism seems to go hand-in-hand says that Muslimers will probably get whacked sooner or later anyway.

    I will take this opportunity to point out an article provided by brother Moe:

    http://blogs.suntimes.com/sweet/2007/12/sweet_column_obamabloomberg_bl.html

    Note:

    Photographers snapped away through the glass, while Obama munched his bacon, eggs over easy and toast and Bloomberg his scrambled eggs and potatoes as they both ignored the choreographed spectacle a few feet away.

    Bacon?

    As most realize, bacon/pork are a no-no for Muslims. So in one fell swoop, Obama has wiped out the suspicion of being a closeted Muslim AND of being from another country – as a Muslim wouldn’t eat bacon, and the consumption of bacon is clearly an all-American activity.

    So, we’ll be watching vtdelacy for future birther tendencies…

  • rickperryreport

    Obama is going all out with connecting Romney with the “not one of us” faiths. I am glad someone caught on. This was the first thing I thought of when I heard of Obama’s new-found love of (the evangelical Christian version of) Jesus Christ.

  • Tbone

    :-)

  • screamindave

    Very well written article, Mr. Erickson. Christians need to become even more vigilant against government control in our religion and in our lives. Why do we allow Muslims extraordinary tolerance in the practice of their religious beliefs even when it doesn’t follow the rule of law, but as Christians we must kow-tow to liberals, atheists and the minority special interests who want to undermine the Judeo/Christian value systems that our country was originally founded upon? I think as Christians, we are running out of “other cheeks” to turn. There is now a war against Christianity being waged by the liberal elite and the mainstream media. It’s time to take a stand……we need to remove the hypocritical deceiver Obama from office!

  • wumingren

    Obama misrepresents the Koran as well as the Bible. The man is a Great Deceiver, but he is not Satan. He is greatly deceived. He is a man who desperately needs the Lord and the fervent prayers of the faithful. Imagine the transformation of Saul, persecutor of Christians, who became the Apostle Paul. Imagine how difficult it must have been to forgive this man who had murdered the friends and family members of the Christians he came to support. And we are to forgive others if we are to be forgiven. Oh, it is a tough thing to forgive Obama.

    For a while, I was cursing the man, but my pastor spoke one day about loving all men and praying for them. He then asked the congregation to pray for Obama. I was really angry about it at first. I fought it. I wouldn’t join in with my wife and those about me repeating his prayer. Then, as I stood their in my self-righteous anger, I was suddenly struck by the revelation that if I cursed Obama, I would thenceforth be ruled by a cursed man. Why would any faithful person desire to have a cursed one in authority over him? I gave in and prayed for Obama and all our leaders. And I asked God to grant me grace to overcome my hatred of Obama and the rest of the Democrats. It has been hard, and I deal with that on a daily basis. But at least I no longer curse them, but pray for them.

    Maybe we all have to stop cursing and start praying. Yes?

  • acat
  • chuckwagon2u

    Politicians and others distort scripture and take them out of context to make a point. Since most individuals have not read the Bible they do not know if it is correct or not. The issues we are faced with today are issues of HOW we are governed,either by a strong centralized government or not. Both Parties are wanting a centralized control which is Socialistic by nature. Socialism has many different characteristics so which brand are we being pushed into,Democratic , Authoritarian or Totalitarian Socialism.
    Anyone who pays attention to Policies we call Laws knows the Tax system favors the rich,Banks and Corporations. None of which pays a fair share but all are favored by our wealthy Political caste.
    Obama is the front man for those desiring a Socialist form of governing which demands high taxes regardless from whence they come on tax day.

  • Bill S

    Wannabe bacon don’t count.

  • simplethinker

    Not that I agree with Obama’s.

    But there are almost as many Christian denominations as there are interpretations of the Bible. Many of them preach that line: “only one correct interpretation but several applications,” yet all of them claim their interpretation is the correct one. One simple example is being “born of water and of the Spirit.” Some insist “born of water” refers to baptism; others insist it refers to the water involved in a human birth. Important? Well, supposedly if you aren’t born of water you “cannot enter into the kingdom of God.” We better hope our church is using the proper interpretation.

    On the other hand, I was quoting the KJV, but is that the best version to use? Which version of the Bible contains the infallible interpretation? Is the Jehovah’s Witnesses version just as infallible as the NIV? Is the ESV just as infallible as the NKJV? What about the GW, RHE, and NLT? What if I personally retranslate the earliest surviving documents and create my own thought translation? Would you accept it as the infallible word of God?

    My own opinion on the topic is that God’s Word is infallible, but our understanding of it is not. Even those who wrote down God’s word could have made mistakes: men are not infallible. It is possible for us to misinterpret God’s word. It is possible for Erick, Obama, and everyone else on the planet to misinterpret a mistranslation of a translation of a document that was copied several times after being dictated by a man who was dictating God’s word in terms and phrases common to a different time.

    Misinterpretations are not only possible, the proliferation of Christian denominations is a testament to the fact.

  • reformist55

    Thank you Erick for bringing us back to the reality of a true and living God whom we should fear. As a leader Mr. Obama’s administration of government is evil. He is spitefully using us and we know it. So knowing that, we also know God will not be mocked and even though his punishment and/or reward may involve us, we can pray for him “collectively” as a leader that our God put over us. Erick, you did not state what should be prayed for, but we know it is salvation for Mr. Obama which is the only prayer needed at this time for him. Salvation is the beginning.

    The ironic thing is God is “using” him as he thinks he is using us. God IS in control.

  • reformist55

    Thank you Timothy Bladel for posting the link to John Piper’s response to killing of babies.

  • znjs

    nt

  • tlhanger

    Mr Wright only follows Mr. Wright. Christ is no where in his rantings. Barry learned from a wolf in sheep’s clothing.

  • adair

    to God that He would turn the hearts of the jihadists and help them to change their beliefs from needing to torture and kill people to being able to have tolerance, even for their enemies (the Jews and us).

    Was that praying for my enemy, or was I trying to slide around it?

  • pubbing

    “Calling his disciples to him, Jesus said, ?Truly I tell you, this poor widow has put more into the treasury than all the others. They all gave out of their wealth; but she, out of her poverty, put in everything?all she had to live on.?

    By his logic according to this passage we should be taxing the poor at 100% of what they have since there gifts are more meaningful than the others.

    Or maybe BHO just dosen’t know what giving actually means.

  • adair

    Even Denny’s serves that.

  • funwithknives

    if we here go by what you write, it is obvious you are a weee bit shy in the Knowing Dept.
    If is was supposed to be hilarity of a sort, you should get another vocation, ’cause this one’s not makin’ it.

  • funwithknives

    on the topic of *What’s Not to Like?* One of the primary reasons for my reading & participating on this site is The Learning.
    Oh, and looking for that bridge of Erick’s,we all seek to stand on.

    K U D O S, Bud!

  • duncer

    He was not reading from the koran though that is one of his holy books, his indoctrination was communism and there one of basic tenets is “from each according to their ability and to each according to their need” so Marx beat him to corruption of the idea. His contempt for the bible is just part of his disdain for “bible clingers”.

  • funwithknives

    and was begging for a Noogie. He got much more respect ,than he ever deserved, as is one trait of true believers. One voice in dissent on this occasion would have been really fortuitous, but it did not happen. The WHY of That Reality escapes me. {The timing was perfect}

  • funwithknives

    After all did he not say he is ‘ the smartest guy in the room’ That he is ‘smarter than any of his advisors or speechwriters’ ?
    What he counts on are his…Ohh, so many Synchophants and *Boobus Americanii* {useful idiots} to carry his water.

    On the other hand, there are all those others BHO is rapidly losing favor with by the mere act of speaking. Each and every time he opens up, another bunch of voters asks ;”HUUHHH?? What’d He just say”?
    So it behooves us to just let him keep talkin’, indeed encourage same. He hands us the tools we need to defeat him. Like a Horn Of Plenty spilling out it’s bounty, he just cannot help himself.
    “Jes keep Talkin’, Barry, Jes keep Talkin’…”

  • paco12348

    Why won’t the Catholic Bishops excommunicate people like Pelosi?

  • Tbone

    What, you believe what a bunch of carrot killers tell you?

  • 2brilliant4u

    Ummm, right. You wll take YOUR common sense over the Word of God. A recipe doomed for failure. man has done this for 2000 years and nowhere close to self salvation. Try surrendering to God and see how that works for you. God has a plan and man can accept or reject. you are rejecting it.

  • 2brilliant4u

    Great read, excellent article. Thank you

  • WillWong

    I still recall the day I got saved…on a night on June 13, 1975 when I took a walk in my front yard and prayed to ask the Lord into my heart. Quite a wild ride since with some major ups and downs plus a few years in the wilderness. I am one of those “he who is forgiven much loves much” type if you know what I mean.

  • cadetteacher

    Each day pray for President Obama using Psalm 109:8 ~ “Let his days be few and brief; and let others step forward to replace him.”
    I wish him no harm, a good long life in the America of our Founders vision. But to do that – he’s got to GO!

  • snohomie39

    Psalm 109:8
    Then act!

  • http://chroniclesofdelusion.net americancentinel

    tjparker, I guess you are being as sarcastic as you are dumb. Naturally, the Sermon on the Mount is in the Bible. However, the President warped the context and applied a spiritual and physical passage into a liberal tax context.

    Jesus was not concerned about governments. He was concerned about people. Evil people often use the ignorance of those only associated with Christianity (rather than practicing it) and will apply scripture out of context to manipulate. We saw this widespread in the Dark Ages and often even believers will throw out fragments like, “Judge not…” Unaware of the meaning.

    The President knows nothing of Christianity beyond that of a child. If Rev. Wright ever taught the Bible – which I doubt – Mr. Obama was no doubt catching his z’s or posting tweets to rally the community to some cause.

  • http://www.lafango.com/brightfame_63 patriot63

    What Would Jesus Tax?
    I do believe we do know what Jesus would tax and Pres. Obama would not like to know the answer to that question. According to Jewish law we would not be required to pay anything above ten percent of our entire gross take home and twenty percent if we failed to pay it on time, but the Jesus said, “Don’t think that I have come to destroy the law, but to fulfill it.” Praise our most Holy Heavenly Father He did, because it is the fulfilling of the law through Christ Jesus that brings His grace and power to become more than just His servants, as was in the old testament, but sons and daughters of the most High God in the New Testament. However, since Jesus did fulfill the New Testament we are now Children of God and brothers and sisters in Christ Jesus, the children of God. Therefore, the answer that Pres. Obama would not like to hear is this, the disciples came to Jesus and asked Him about paying tribute and that they had no money to pay. You know this story about the money in the fish?s mouth. Jesus told his disciples that the children of the kingdom, referring to the Roman’s and government’s earthly children were exempt from paying tribute to Caesar, and how much more are we exempt from paying tribute,? taxes” being the children of God who is the head of all principalities and power? Literally, that is exactly, Jesus’ viewpoint on the subject, but said nevertheless, so that we don’t offend go and cast your line into the sea. The first fish you pull out will have the money you need to pay the taxes. According to Jesus, if Pres. Obama truly has a Christian walk with God, he would make every Christian totally tax exempt! How’s that for an answer to his hypocritical question?! I can’t help but admire the Holy Spirits humor! I can’t stop laughing! My eyes are watering even now!
    Also, as for as the Divorce issue goes, in Matt. 19:9, that famous scripture that everyone likes to quote that places an exception rule on Divorce. Remember the Pharisees came tempting him according to the “law” concerning marriage. Jesus said that from the beginning God created man and woman to become one. (That, unintentionally, settles the same sex marriage moral issue!), but moving on, Jesus said from the beginning divorce wasn’t so, but the bill of divorcement was a man made law, not God’s and said in verse nine, except that it be for fornication, which according to the law required a stoning to death and therefore a release of the law of the husband, divorce and remarriage is adultery. He also went as far as to say that a “willful practice?, emphasizes added, of lusting after a woman is adultery. So, the proper interpretation of verse nine is; willful lustful thoughts, divorce and remarriage are all forms of fornication in God’s eyes, because sin begins in the heart and reveal itself in the actions of the flesh. Therefore, the next time somebody asks you the question; do you think homosexuality is a sin? Just simply remind them that every form of “fornication” is a sin and ask them why they singled out homosexuality from among them.
    Praise God for His most Holy Grace through His only begotten Son, Christ Jesus

  • timefle

    For he is also splicing scripture…. What about his context?
    I like many of his thoughts, but….

    Who am I to judge Obama?

    I will pray for him, but not for the reasons that specified. We all misuse scripture at times. It’s just natural.

    But see in Romans 2:1… You, therefore, have no excuse, you who pass judgment on someone else, for at whatever point you judge the other, you are condemning yourself, because you who pass judgment do the same things.

    Whether Obama is a brother in Christ or not, we should make the choice to love him. We may not see eye to eye, but our prayer support is what will make the biggest difference. God works in some crazy awesome ways, and there is sin in this world that distorts God’s will at the same time. You can make that argument about whoever enters Office and is President…. The message at my church yesterday morning was on loving our enemy, as spoken of in Matthew 5, though. And just for the record, our enemy isn’t necessarily someone that we fight against… But Obama isn’t our enemy. He is our Commander in Chief and our President. We should be supporting him as Christians…. We have an example in Christ to unconditionally love everyone. It’s radical. That’s exactly why I love Christ. And as you said, Chenault, TJ may possibly be out of context, but so are you… You are quoting “enemies” as Paul describes in Romans. The enemy in Matthew 5 is spoken of by Jesus. Two different individuals. Context, context, context.

    As Christians, let’s choose to be radical. Love those that are hard to love. Support those in prayer that we don’t see eye to eye with. Let us not be so quick to look at the speck in the eyes of others when we have planks in our own eye…..

    Also, I hate the title of this article. WE ALL ARE SINNERS. We ALL fall short of God’s glory. We all splice scripture. We all take certain passages and use them to our advantage. I just did in my argument.

    Whoever reads my piece, might you challenge it, be challenged by it, and take it with a grain of salt. I am no theology major. I just know that I love Christ and have been saved by his grace.

  • timefle

    … just to clarify

  • sissybryant

    The Lord our God, has not left until now, nor will he in the future, leave a single stone unturned. His Word is The Gospel Truth and His Will, will be done, on Earth as it is, in Heaven … Those are the words of Our Lord telling us exactly what to expect to come.

    We do not need Fortune Tellers or Soothsayers nor a government body made-up of people just like you and I, to attempt self-made rules, regulations, policies and or prevention laws, to protect themselves … from, you and I! That is not the way the foundation of our country was intended. Quite the opposite in fact. By changing, Amending the Constitution, to accommodate the many “Changes,” this and many previous Administrations have made to it; protecting their actions of wrong-doing against We, The People.

    You know that – ” point in time,” when the government have far-reached its power; has grown to be come so big and mighty, it no longer hears the voice of the People, of which IT IS supposed, to SERVE… ; when the majority of us has figured out what they have done to US, and Our Country, in return for playing the, “Game of Politics, for self-greed and preservation, in return for, favors.”

    My Fellow-Citizens, a very wide fork in the road has been reached here in our country and around the globe as well. That fork, did not just appear. The path leaders have taken US down for some time now, is actually The Transition Period. We are being “Lead”, “Taken,” Made to”, eventually reach the same place, regardless of WHO we are. When that moment arrives, it will actually be a moment of judgement of you, by your government. the question they will ask themselves about each one of US is, ” Are we going to be an Asset or a Liability ?

    This,”Fork in the road,” is such an evaluation, a Check point. This will determine whether or not, we will be allowed to live or die. If you get to live, you will then be entering, The New Era. . . This New Era will be The New world Order. . . This New World Order is the new formula for the Mass of Survivors denouncing your Faith and are considered, Trainable and are not a risk . . . Are you ready ?

    A prediction of our government is, there will be a Civil Unrest due to their newly implemented “Crime Prevention Act and The Patriot Act and many more Acts and laws,” and this does not allow Clergy to be exempt … Rather the opposite again. Clergy were alerted years in advance as to what was and still is, coming. They were in fact, re-educated in the connection between God’s Word and Government Authority. That is correct.

    In the Book of Romans, it discusses Civil Disobedience and, The Submission to Authority. But, just like what Obama did with The Word of God, so has Our Government, in general … Now, it is believed, The government, is the Law. They do not need Votes or Congress, or the Senate or The House. Nope. they merely, do what they want when and if they need to.

    Because of this message within a message, I felt impelled to bring to the table the additional information I have become aware of. Therefore, I am suggesting you Update yourself on Project Bluebeam, HAARP, The Patriot Act, The Crime Prevention Act, Codex (The New Trade Commission who decides what your food will consist of according to the needs of the true elite). Well, you might as well learn about Depleted Uranium being used to fight both Middle East Wars, Ammo in Syria and Egypt … There is so much, too much garbage, Our Own government has dumped on US., on purpose.

    There is a major War taking place right now. This War is the Big One. The One between Evil vs Good. Are you aware of this ? If not, you sure need to be. As a part of the bigger picture of things our government has in store for US is, no more choice regarding a religion. What that means is ; “There is going to be One World Religion by demand.” Religion was not the only Freedom we were “allowed” to practice and will soon no longer have.

    Our God-Given Rights by birth, is now under the scrutiny of a government gone wildly-out-of-control. The AGENDA for US and the rest of the World is … One. One World Supreme Court; One World Religion; One World Government; One World Bank No borders; No separate Societies or levels of wealth.

    Either we wake-up to the many ways and things our government has already “Changed,” the ways we are use to , OR – we will be living in a world dominated by the rule of the elite. Beginning with many Laws being passed and the New Language the “20 Working Groups” has changed, all Policies, Rules and Regulations, will very soon be the new Law of The Land. During the second term of Bush’s administration, in June of 2005, The Prime Minister of Canada and The President of Mexico signed,
    The Agreement,” that removed the borders between our countries.

    I realize many will not and do not think this is possible and would and could not ever be possible, but – IT did. The purpose is to make the way for a new way of, “Doing Business.” To remove the Borders and open the passageway from China into Mexico and The United States in Order to transport “Cheap Goods.” As a part of this Plan, NAFTA was supposed to build a Super Highway that would run from Canada, through the middle of The U.S., down to Mexico.

    But, to make this part of Globalization possible, to build a highway 8 football fields wide up through the middle of the U.S., from Mexico into Canada, running right through Texas, Our Government began exercising The Eminent Domain Law, stealing the land of Private Land Owners, to the point, these people began taking the government to court trying to get their land back! We, are in serious trouble in this country and they are still using the tactics of keeping us distracted on other issues to accomplish their goals and agendas.

    Politics is now a job where the qualifications most important are, acting and lying. Just learn how to=talk-the-talk and tell the majority what they need to hear and, while they do that, big supporters are pouring their dollars into the campaign, and will get what they paid for, behind the scenes. The Federal Reserve Bank(s)(all 12 of them) will soon be calling all of the shots and will own what China does not, due to the money the government has borrowed from them.

    While I am sharing some truths, I will bring up the Federal Reserve for the intents and purpose of making sure I bring to light, WHO and WHAT the Federal Reserve is . . . They are NOT a part of our Treasury Dept, as so many has thought; They are not a part of our government; They are : 12 Privately owned Banks who are TAX-EXEMPT and CANNOT be AUDITED. The Federal Reserve Act was put into place, passed, when Congress was out on Christmas Vacation, and they helped pay for the campaign of the candidate running for president then, Hoover. Another, play-on-words to help so many,”Assume,” otherwise. The Federal Reserve is Private Banks !!!!!!!!!! Wake-up and break-off from the New Era, the way of life, or live as though we had Hitler back to line-up, America!

  • pm270x

    1 God is our refuge and strength,
    an ever-present help in trouble.
    2 Therefore we will not fear, though the earth give way
    and the mountains fall into the heart of the sea,
    3 though its waters roar and foam
    and the mountains quake with their surging.[c]

    4 There is a river whose streams make glad the city of God,
    the holy place where the Most High dwells.
    5 God is within her, she will not fall;
    God will help her at break of day.
    6 Nations are in uproar, kingdoms fall;
    he lifts his voice, the earth melts.

    7 The LORD Almighty is with us;
    the God of Jacob is our fortress.

    8 Come and see what the LORD has done,
    the desolations he has brought on the earth.
    9 He makes wars cease
    to the ends of the earth.
    He breaks the bow and shatters the spear;
    he burns the shields[d] with fire.
    10 He says, ?Be still, and know that I am God;
    I will be exalted among the nations,
    I will be exalted in the earth.?

    11 The LORD Almighty is with us;
    the God of Jacob is our fortress.

    Barack Obama Tucson Speech: Transcript, Video of Arizona Memorial
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ztbJmXQDIGA&feature=player_embedded

    “Her” refers to Jerusalem and the Nation of Israel. Yet Obama abandons Israel while using their scripture to embrace a colleague.

  • pm270x

    David Barton

    http://www.wallbuilders.com/LIBprinterfriendly.asp?id=106938

    When one observes President Obama?s unwillingness to accommodate America?s four-century long religious conscience protection through his attempts to require Catholics to go against their own doctrines and beliefs, one is tempted to say that he is anti-Catholic. But that characterization would not be correct. Although he has recently singled out Catholics, he has equally targeted traditional Protestant beliefs over the past four years. So since he has attacked Catholics and Protestants, one is tempted to say that he is anti-Christian. But that, too, would be inaccurate. He has been equally disrespectful in his appalling treatment of religious Jews in general and Israel in particular. So perhaps the most accurate description of his antipathy toward Catholics, Protestants, religious Jews, and the Jewish nation would be to characterize him as anti-Biblical. And then when his hostility toward Biblical people of faith is contrasted with his preferential treatment of Muslims and Muslim nations, it further strengthens the accuracy of the anti-Biblical descriptor. In fact, there have been numerous clearly documented times when his pro-Islam positions have been the cause of his anti-Biblical actions.

    Listed below in chronological order are (1) numerous records of his attacks on Biblical persons or organizations; (2) examples of the hostility toward Biblical faith that have become evident in the past three years in the Obama-led military; (3) a listing of his open attacks on Biblical values; and finally (4) a listing of numerous incidents of his preferential deference for Islam?s activities and positions, including letting his Islamic advisors guide and influence his hostility toward people of Biblical faith.

    1. Acts of hostility toward people of Biblical faith:

    April 2008 ? Obama speaks disrespectfully of Christians, saying they ?cling to guns or religion? and have an ?antipathy to people who aren’t like them.? 1

    February 2009 ? Obama announces plans to revoke conscience protection for health workers who refuse to participate in medical activities that go against their beliefs, and fully implements the plan in February 2011. 2

    April 2009 ? When speaking at Georgetown University, Obama orders that a monogram symbolizing Jesus’ name be covered when he is making his speech. 3

    May 2009 ? Obama declines to host services for the National Prayer Day (a day established by federal law) at the White House. 4

    April 2009 ? In a deliberate act of disrespect, Obama nominated three pro-abortion ambassadors to the Vatican; of course, the pro-life Vatican rejected all three. 5

    October 19, 2010 ? Obama begins deliberately omitting the phrase about ?the Creator? when quoting the Declaration of Independence ? an omission he has made on no less than seven occasions. 6

    November 2010 ? Obama misquotes the National Motto, saying it is ?E pluribus unum? rather than ?In God We Trust? as established by federal law. 7

    January 2011 ? After a federal law was passed to transfer a WWI Memorial in the Mojave Desert to private ownership, the U. S. Supreme Court ruled that the cross in the memorial could continue to stand, but the Obama administration refused to allow the land to be transferred as required by law, and refused to allow the cross to be re-erected as ordered by the Court. 8

    February 2011 ? Although he filled posts in the State Department, for more than two years Obama did not fill the post of religious freedom ambassador, an official that works against religious persecution across the world; he filled it only after heavy pressure from the public and from Congress. 9

    April 2011 ? For the first time in American history, Obama urges passage of a non-discrimination law that does not contain hiring protections for religious groups, forcing religious organizations to hire according to federal mandates without regard to the dictates of their own faith, thus eliminating conscience protection in hiring. 10

    August 2011 ? The Obama administration releases its new health care rules that override religious conscience protections for medical workers in the areas of abortion and contraception. 11

    November 2011 ? Obama opposes inclusion of President Franklin Roosevelt?s famous D-Day Prayer in the WWII Memorial. 12

    November 2011 ? Unlike previous presidents, Obama studiously avoids any religious references in his Thanksgiving speech. 13

    December 2011 ? The Obama administration denigrates other countries’ religious beliefs as an obstacle to radical homosexual rights. 14

    January 2012 ? The Obama administration argues that the First Amendment provides no protection for churches and synagogues in hiring their pastors and rabbis. 15

    February 2012 ? The Obama administration forgives student loans in exchange for public service, but announces it will no longer forgive student loans if the public service is related to religion. 16
    2. Acts of hostility from the Obama-led military toward people of Biblical faith:

    June 2011 ? The Department of Veterans Affairs forbids references to God and Jesus during burial ceremonies at Houston National Cemetery. 17

    August 2011 ? The Air Force stops teaching the Just War theory to officers in California because the course is taught by chaplains and is based on a philosophy introduced by St. Augustine in the third century AD ? a theory long taught by civilized nations across the world (except America). 18

    September 2011 ? Air Force Chief of Staff prohibits commanders from notifying airmen of programs and services available to them from chaplains. 19

    September 2011 ? The Army issues guidelines for Walter Reed Medical Center stipulating that ?No religious items (i.e. Bibles, reading materials and/or facts) are allowed to be given away or used during a visit.? 20

    November 2011 ? The Air Force Academy rescinds support for Operation Christmas Child, a program to send holiday gifts to impoverished children across the world, because the program is run by a Christian charity. 21

    November 2011 ? The Air Force Academy pays $80,000 to add a Stonehenge-like worship center for pagans, druids, witches and Wiccans. 22

    February 2012 ? The U. S. Military Academy at West Point disinvites three star Army general and decorated war hero Lieutenant General William G. (?Jerry?) Boykin (retired) from speaking at an event because he is an outspoken Christian. 23

    February 2012 ? The Air Force removes ?God? from the patch of Rapid Capabilities Office (the word on the patch was in Latin: Dei). 24

    February 2012 ? The Army orders Catholic chaplains not to read a letter to parishioners that their archbishop asked them to read. 25

    3. Acts of hostility toward Biblical values:

    January 2009 ? Obama lifts restrictions on U.S. government funding for groups that provide abortion services or counseling abroad, forcing taxpayers to fund pro-abortion groups that either promote or perform abortions in other nations. 26

    January 2009 ? President Obama?s nominee for deputy secretary of state asserts that American taxpayers are required to pay for abortions and that limits on abortion funding are unconstitutional. 27

    March 2009 ? The Obama administration shut out pro-life groups from attending a White House-sponsored health care summit. 28

    March 2009 ? Obama orders taxpayer funding of embryonic stem cell research. 29

    March 2009 ? Obama gave $50 million for the UNFPA, the UN population agency that promotes abortion and works closely with Chinese population control officials who use forced abortions and involuntary sterilizations. 30

    May 2009 ? The White House budget eliminates all funding for abstinence-only education and replaces it with ?comprehensive? sexual education, repeatedly proven to increase teen pregnancies and abortions. 31 He continues the deletion in subsequent budgets. 32

    May 2009 ? Obama officials assemble a terrorism dictionary calling pro-life advocates violent and charging that they use racism in their ?criminal? activities. 33

    July 2009 ? The Obama administration illegally extends federal benefits to same-sex partners of Foreign Service and Executive Branch employees, in direction violation of the federal Defense of Marriage Act. 34

    September 16, 2009 ? The Obama administration appoints as EEOC Commissioner Chai Feldblum, who asserts that society should ?not tolerate? any ?private beliefs,? including religious beliefs, if they may negatively affect homosexual ?equality.? 35

    July 2010 ? The Obama administration uses federal funds in violation of federal law to get Kenya to change its constitution to include abortion. 36

    August 2010 ? The Obama administration Cuts funding for 176 abstinence education programs. 37

    September 2010 ? The Obama administration tells researchers to ignore a judge?s decision striking down federal funding for embryonic stem cell research. 38

    February 2011 ? Obama directs the Justice Department to stop defending the federal Defense of Marriage Act. 39

    March 2011 ? The Obama administration refuses to investigate videos showing Planned Parenthood helping alleged sex traffickers get abortions for victimized underage girls. 40

    July 2011 ? Obama allows homosexuals to serve openly in the military, reversing a policy originally instituted by George Washington in March 1778. 41

    September 2011 ? The Pentagon directs that military chaplains may perform same-sex marriages at military facilities in violation of the federal Defense of Marriage Act. 42

    October 2011 ? The Obama administration eliminates federal grants to the U.S. Conference of Catholic Bishops for their extensive programs that aid victims of human trafficking because the Catholic Church is anti-abortion. 43
    4. Acts of preferentialism for Islam:

    May 2009 ? While Obama does not host any National Day of Prayer event at the White House, he does host White House Iftar dinners in honor of Ramadan. 44

    April 2010 ? Christian leader Franklin Graham is disinvited from the Pentagon?s National Day of Prayer Event because of complaints from the Muslim community. 45

    April 2010 ? The Obama administration requires rewriting of government documents and a change in administration vocabulary to remove terms that are deemed offensive to Muslims, including jihad, jihadists, terrorists, radical Islamic, etc. 46

    August 2010 ? Obama speaks with great praise of Islam and condescendingly of Christianity. 47

    August 2010 ? Obama went to great lengths to speak out on multiple occasions on behalf of building an Islamic mosque at Ground Zero, while at the same time he was silent about a Christian church being denied permission to rebuild at that location. 48

    2010 ? While every White House traditionally issues hundreds of official proclamations and statements on numerous occasions, this White House avoids traditional Biblical holidays and events but regularly recognizes major Muslim holidays, as evidenced by its 2010 statements on Ramadan, Eid-ul-Fitr, Hajj, and Eid-ul-Adha. 49

    October 2011 ? Obama?s Muslim advisers block Middle Eastern Christians? access to the White House. 50

    February 2012 ? The Obama administration makes effulgent apologies for Korans being burned by the U. S. military, 51 but when Bibles were burned by the military, numerous reasons were offered why it was the right thing to do. 52

    Many of these actions are literally unprecedented ? this is the first time they have happened in four centuries of American history. The hostility of President Obama toward Biblical faith and values is without equal from any previous American president.