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A Severe Conservative Speaks at CPAC

No, I'm not talking about the John Birch Society.

Mitt Romney got a warm reception at CPAC, standing ovations . . . the works. He did nothing to calm fears that he is not one of us. In fact, he might have made it worse today.

He ad-libbed one particular portion of his speech that just may give away the game for him with the CPAC crowd. He threw in this line:

“I fought against long odds in a deep blue state, but I was a severely conservative Republican governor.”

What the heck is a severe conservative? The man who likes to fire people should probably fire Miriam-Webster, in addition to whoever came up with his strategy for Minnesota, Missouri, and Colorado.

A severe conservative? It sounds more like a critique of conservatives from the left than that of a conservative himself. In fact, if you want to read only one thing on Mitt Romney’s views of conservatives, I actually think Chris Orr of The New Republic captures the situation best.

Orr writes on Quentin Tarantino’s view of Superman as discussed in the movie Kill Bill 2.

Superman was born Superman. It’s Clark Kent that is the invented alias, the pose, the “costume.” And in the way Superman plays Kent–weak, self-doubting, cowardly–we see his critique of the human race.

It occurred to me that the same is true of Romney’s desperate, if never terribly persuasive, impersonation of a conservative Republican. That persona–angry, simple-minded, xenophobic, jingoistic–is exactly what Romney (who is himself cultured, content, and cosmopolitan) imagines the average GOP voter to be.

I think that is perhaps one of the most accurate reads on Romney today and why so many of us think he is not what he claims to be.

Just randomly, on the actual issue of Superman, Jim Pethokoukis is correct that Quentin Tarantino got Superman wrong. I think what he means is that Mitt Romney is actually Bruce Wayne, a shallow playboy super rich businessman. (Kidding)

COMMENTS

  • aesthete

    The reason that I dislike Santorum on a visceral level is because he unwittingly tries so hard to confirm a stereotype of a specific sort of Republican.

    The reason I dislike Romney is because he is wittingly playing this character to the hilt (unsuccessfully, I might add).

    Conservatives deserve better than people who play to their worst stereotypes.

  • izoneguy

    …simple-minded, xenophobic, jingoistic what Romney imagines the average GOP voter to be.

    That is why Romney un-masks himself as a liberal. That is exactly what liberals think most conservatives are.

  • joeyjojoshabadoo79

    End transmission.

  • joeyjojoshabadoo79

    Good job.

  • joeyjojoshabadoo79

    I actually kind of like Santorum, I just dont think he has any chance against Obama, regardless of where the unemployment rate is in November.

  • goodgovernance

    He likes nothing better than to sit on a lead, because he sees action more in terms of risk than opportunity, unless that action is fully hedged.

    No wonder he views those of us who want bold action as “severe.” For him, there’s nothing more to life than managing the status quo. Making sure the picture frames all hang level, and that the papers in your desk are all gathered together in a tidy pile. Oh, and let’s not have any of the paper clips stray out from their tray – last time that happened it was chaos. Chaos!

    We’ve got to get him out of the race. For those who argue that we can’t criticize Romney because doing so will make him too vulnerable in the general – news flash for you. WE’RE ALREADY THERE. It happened when Romney couldn’t win a majority of the early contests.

  • Repair_Man_Jack

    he actually believes it when says E-VIL, Conservative things.

  • zachv

    I can’t claim to be the typical conservative Republican here in terms of being the college kid, but that’s exactly what Romney and Santorum are casting themselves to be when they simply are not. It gives me a headache and puts me off.

  • adamd

    If/when and I think it is now a matter of when Romney fails to win the Republican nomination, I wonder how high it will rank on unexpected failures of campaigns that were once given front runner (or top tier) status?

    I think this one will rank close to the top.

  • widobberman

    I don’t know where you came from Erick , but I keep seeing your smug face on CNN and have finally had it. Do whatever you want on this site, but please leave normal Americans that watch TV alone.

    I’m not sure why you are single-handedly attempting to destroy any respect for conservatism. Don’t you see them laughing at you on CNN? You are playing perfectly “That persona?angry, simple-minded, xenophobic, jingoistic”. That doesn’t help with the vast majority of Americans that prefer to weigh facts. I’d actually like to win this election.

    I really don’t understand your ‘severe’ treatment of Romney either. I get it that all Republicans think their is a mythical candidate they agree with on all issues. There isn’t. If the conservative agitators would quit with the hyperbole, we just might have a chance.

  • WY_Cowboy

    End trans

  • acat

    If that were true, Red State really would be Romney State.

    Oh wait, you meant Santorum there, didn’t you.

    My bad!

    Mew

  • msbs05

    I watched both speeches (Santorum & Romney). Santorum spoke about America with passion, Romney spoke about himself without passion. Romney’s speech felt like he was trying to come up with every crumb of conservatism he could honestly find in his lifetime. It felt like pandering, a “no, really I’m just like you” speech. Santorum felt like he spoke from his heart. I think he confirms the stereotype because that is who he naturally is. The line about “I’m the one you know” is perfect because we do know how he would govern, but are clueless even after Romney spoke who would emerge after the election – conservative Romney or liberal Romney, or if he would just waffle between the two based on polls.
    I am Southern and have been supporting Newt, but I think Satorum won me over today and I will most likely vote for him on Super Tuesday. I’m positive it wont be Romney marked on my ticket.

  • aesthete

    I believe that Santorum believes what he says about social and defense policy, given his record. I’m more bearish when it comes to his fiscal conservatism (again, given his record).

    Romney I don’t find sincere at all.

  • jack0001

    obozo just announced an anmesity czar!

    again i say, i dont care if it is romney, santorium, gingrich or ron paul!

    i am going to wear bells on by toes, and vote with enthusiasm and vigor for whomever the republiCON candidate is.

  • bpgmswv1646

    Romneybots engage!

  • dlg00

    My frends on fb call him the plastic suit…quite fitting actually.

    I just recieved an e-mail from a friend in CO with this link.

    http://www.slate.com/blogs/weigel/2012/02/08/ron_paul_secretly_won_the_caucuses.html

    My fb friends that have been involved in the caucus process for many years are posting very distubing actions that are going on. During the NV primary a fb friend went on an all out rant…showing a video of what happened in his pricinct. I have had multiple fb friends reporting the same facts about the most of the primary states. No one from FL has said anything about irregularities…other than very low turn out.

    I was not there & I am only sending what was sent as proof of what he saw in CO….still hopping mad. If these reports are true than what is the point of even voting? Why not just give all the delgates to Paul….then let all hell break loose. Does anyone really think that Ron Paul is going to give these delgates to Mitt?

  • Repair_Man_Jack

    (And I totally get that the man has his warts)…They just don’t ooze and stink quite as much as Romney’s.

  • aesthete

    I didn’t express myself clearly.

    I think that Santorum is very sincere when it comes to social and defense issues, and that these issues genuinely motivate him. I just don’t agree with or care for most of what he says about either issue.

    I think your characterization of Romney is exactly accurate, but I also think there’s a bite to Romney’s performance: he doesn’t play the part of a smart conservative; he’s pandering to what he believes to be an audience that is stupid, and is acting out that role, IMO.

  • WY_Cowboy

    Winning, is the prime directive (if we’re make allusions to scifi). However, Newt and Romney can’t beat Obama. Perhaps Santorum can’t either, but the evidence isn’t in on that yet. Let’s be honest, that is just a gut feeling. It is a very valid concern, but I would like to see this play out a little further before I close the books on Santorum.

    The fact is Romney, Rick, or Newt will be the nominee. So, let’s pick the best one out there and run like hell. Mark Levin made a great point on Hannity last night about choosing between Mitt and Rick. Of them all, Rick is the most conservative who can draw the best contrasts. I agree. I’m with Rick.

  • sethellis

    You mean, they didn’t like his CPAC speech? I’m shocked!

    I honestly thought you’d find something better than using the word severe to be upset about…

  • clintonformccain

    what Patrick Caddell thought of the speech.

  • aesthete

    I think Santorum is more likely to force us into a conflict abroad or to expend lots of political energy into destructive applications of social conservatism.

    I think Romney is more likely to conserve as much political capital as possible in an attempt to be seen as popular. He will increase the military, increase spending, keep taxes low, and generally fly under the radar. The only things he will expend that capital on is whatever is fueling his ambition to become President: probably something that is not on the conventional left/right political axes.

    YMMV on which of these two turds represents the brighter future for America.

  • aesthete

    Do you deny that the popular negative image of conservatives is exactly that, much as the popular negative image of liberals is of free-spending naifs who don’t understand the world and who exhibit Stockholm syndrome on every issue?

  • goodgovernance

    You’ve been waiting all day to write that, I can tell.

  • acat

    I may tend to agree with you. Unfortunately, there’s enough Santorum-being-Santorum tape out there for us to be treated to close-up shots of the (arguably) fewer stinking, oozing warts …

    As I’ve said around here before, Santorum’s fiscal road to damascus may be sincere, but some of his comments in the debates have me wondering enough that I’m not interested in the role of Ananias….

    Mew

  • http://www.gmsplace.com/ civil truth

    Surely in a country of over 300 million persons, we can do better than have to choose between two turds. If that’s what our political system produces, then something is seriously wrong with our political system.

    Or with the citizenry…

  • WY_Cowboy

    Honestly, there are times when Erick annoys me too. It seems there are times that nobody is good enough to carry the conservative banner for him. However, when it comes to Romney, Erick has had him pegged from the beginning. It is not severe treatment to pointout what Romney has actually said, actually done, and how many times those things contradict each other.

    I was a Romney guy. I am not anymore and the reason is simple. Romney lost my support because he doesn’t understand what conservatism is all about. We know this because of his comments about the poor and the safety net. We knows this because of his defense of an individual mandate at the state level (if the individual mandate is a freedom issue at the national level, how can it not be at the state level?). We know this because he told the WSJ editorial board that he couldn’t push fundamental tax reform because it would be too hard politically as a result of his wealth.

    Sorry, Romney is his own worst enemy – not Erick Erickson.

  • aesthete

    I find it great that GK Chesterton and CS Lewis quotes are so well-represented in this subthread. If only we could get someone with a Tolkien signature to comment, then the trifecta of influential British Christian giants of contemporary literature would be complete.

  • http://www.gmsplace.com/ civil truth

    …and if it’s Rick you think is Ananias – well then, we would need to carefully pick who is going to be Vice-President if he ends up being our choice.

    Do you have any recipes for crow stew? I may be finding myself have to prepare a dish. I never thought I’d be coming this close to supporting Rick, but if it does come down to him or Mitt…where’s that deus ex machina when you need one.

  • willstauff

    Severe is a word to describe a head wound not political philosophy. The term is staunch not Severely. I hope Romney and his political philosophy is “severely” beaten by Rick Santorum!

  • WY_Cowboy

    for Romney from the beginning. She has been a loyal conduit of oppo regarding every candidate that has emerged to challenge the Mittster for his campaign. Something has changed. She has raised issues about Santorum, but in the same way she has raised issues about Romney.

    It looks as if Romney has lost his most loyal blogger at the WaPo and Rubin seems to either be favoring Santorum or playing it straight up.

    Interesting . . .

  • willstauff

    I love how these Rombots pack CPAC with campaign stiffs and bus in supporters and then report on all the applause and love like the Jacksonville debate where people at campaign stops kept asking them why they couldn’t get tickets for the debate. It’s like an Obama town hall meeting.

  • BillC

    aspergers. He just has trouble relating to people. That and he is a moderate.

  • aesthete

    I think I left it in the garage. Make sure not to trip over Aslan’s impromptu appearances, spice melange-fueled premonitions, or Giant Eagles from Arda on the way back there :)

  • acat

    Although certainly an acquired taste … *way* too many words to be an easy read!

    Mew

  • aesthete

    Tolkien is definitely an acquired taste once on goes beyond the Hobbit, but CS Lewis and GK Chesterton are eminently readable, IMO.

  • http://lukos.com Ed54

    is the worst thing you can find to object to in his speech, then you have jumped the shark. Not even a pretense of substantive critique? C’mon.

  • Repair_Man_Jack

    with the deus ex machina. And that, my friends, marks the point in time where this thread as officially been jacked.

  • acat

    Nothing like facing an extinction-level event to clarify the mind.

    Mew

  • trickamsterdam

    The reason I dislike(d) him viscerally is growing up in PA, is that he seemed like a dummy and an embarrassment…but I’m not sure it has anything to do w/ his conservatism., though.

    Actually, he’s always reminded me of the Republican Joe Biden. All the good qualities and the many, many bad ones.

    Gaffe machine; hard-working; 25% of the time he sounds brilliant, 25% of the time he sounds crazy, 50% of the time he sounds so boring no one listens; hot tempered; not-bright; can’t dress for ——; genuinely down to earth; occasionally endearing; history reveals he’s wrong a lot; very successful career, but all done through hard work, not genuine intelligence or creativity (some people would say that’s a positive, but I don’t).

    Santorum’s big selling point to me is SC Justices. I’m absolutely positive he’d get in a brawl over it. Don’t trust Romney at all on the issue. Even Newt could be unpredictable. Paul would be unpredictable.

    A fifth reliable conservative Justice will go a long way to domestically balancing any neo-con foreign policy disasters he gets us into or continues. I do believe if he gets us into a war, or continues Afghanistan, he will at least try to win in a way that isn’t politically correct.

    I’ve come to believe that he’s the most electable of the four left because he’s the one most capable of uniting the Party.

    -Paul can’t because he’s a libertarian, and most Rs are conservatives or centrists.

    -Newt can’t because the Establishment hates him.. I think this is because he probably crossed people on a personal level, more than any policies of his. When T. Coburn implies he might vote for Obama over you, it’s just a problem..

    -Romney can’t because the Base hates him.. I suspect the climax of this is going to be in VA, where Paul humiliates him,, and there’s simply no where left for him and his supporters to hide.

    Santorum’s position on the unborn being covered under the equal protection clause would be his biggest weakness in the General, as I see it (criminal homicide if you abort your rapist’s baby), but he may be able to walk that back a bit in a way that it doesn’t tick of his core supporters.

    That’s really the only weakness…other than the fact that he isn’t very smart. Possible ad for Santorum:, insead of “Are you better off than you were four years ago?”:

    Santorum at the Republican Convention accepting nomination: “Obama’s smart and how did that work out for you?!”

    Paul Ryan rising out of a brokered convention remains the beset option.

    BROKERED.CONVENTION.NOW.OR.OBAMA.AGAIN.SOON.

  • acat

    “Hobbit” is quite approachable.

    The five* books of The Fellowship of the Ring require patience and dedication. (I’m particularly fond of “The Two Towers”)

    Once one gets beyond Silmarillion, though .. it gets to be very hard going.

    Lewis is good, although he should never have been able to pass off “Out of the silent planet” as science-fiction. Never made the time to read Chesterton, you may pity me as you see fit.

    Mew

    * yes there *are* five books, the author said so, but the publisher crammed ‘em all into three bindings…

  • unsk

    Erick you nailed it with this post.

    Romney is an insincere liar, and anyone with half a brain can see that.
    He is and always will be a Northeastern Progressive, through and through. I will not vote for a Progressive. Ever.

    Rick is not so bad. Santorum is sincere is his social con beliefs and probably would support the military. However, his social con beliefs at times run roughshod over our constitutional rights. His heart is probably in the right place but his logic at times on the role of the Constitution, government, the free market and the individual is lax, sloppy and ill conceived.

    I really hope he will not be the nominee. Social Conservatism can be and should be embodied with our Constitutional framework. Rick has not been careful enough to do that. As a result, he would get hammered in the general. Romney, because he is a weak neo Democrat Socialist Progressive, would be soundly beaten by Obama, but Santorum would just get hammered.

  • aesthete

    TBH, I don’t see Santorum as conservative so much as a social democrat with strong convictions about social issues which he put a lot of emphasis on, and some strong, inflexible convictions on foreign policy which follow from the aforementioned convictions. That doesn’t make him a bad person — it doesn’t even make him a dumb one — but it does make him unsuitable for governance. He definitely has foot-in-mouth disease — I probably remember many of the same gaffes as you do from the Bush years — but mostly his problem from my perspective is that he doesn’t have strong principles on appropriate size and scope of government.

    I do see where you’re coming from, though — overall, I’d agree with your profile of Santorum. I would give Romney the edge over Santorum on the “electability” count: he’s so boring and blase that he might win purely out of spite for Obama and discouragement at Obama’s handling of the economy. Santorum and Newt, I feel, are both crippled by foot-in-mouth disease which will make the election about their gaffes or unpopular statements rather than Obama’s weaknesses, a la Sarah Palin after the Couric interview.

  • aesthete

    It’s more science fantasy than science fiction, though — definitely more like Frank Herbert’s Dune than, say, Asimov’s Foundation.

    As far as Chesterton goes, I’d recommend reading a Father Brown short story to see if you like his style. Personally, I find his short stories to be his low point (he excelled at non-fiction and The Man Who Was Thursday is great), but it’ll give you a general feel for his fiction without much of a time investment.

  • http://impudent.edublogs.org/ kyle8

    He is G W Bush without the brains or charisma.

  • Common_Cents

    Gingrich nailed it at CPAC. CPAC is about challenging the Republican Party. He gets everything in proper historical perspective and understands the who, what, when, why, and how to bring the Republican party back to conservative roots.

    He is brave enough to challenge the DC Republican establishment which continues to manage the decay.

    The next stage in the Tea party led conservative revolution is right in front of everyone’s eyes. But will we see it?

  • redcal

    Because he’s a liberal. Didn’t even try to hide it until his late middle age. That’s who his friends, business partners, neighbors in Boston/NY/San Diego are.

  • trelane

    It triggered the realization that Mitt behavior is perfectly explained if he is miming conservativism from the stereotypical perceptions of a liberal. Very astute Erick.

  • jamesm

    I have listened to Santorum, Romney and Gingrich. Honestly there is no comparison. I will vote for nominee. But seriouslt, this too much baggage nonsense is just that nonsense. Utter nonsense at this point. This guy is tough, brilliant and unafraid. Absolutely no comparison.

  • goodgovernance

    Newt’s absolutely right we need to send the Establishment a message. We’ve been sending them the message since South Carolina, but they’re so set in believing they’re the center of the universe, they still can’t believe it.

  • acat

    It’s very, very soft Sci-Fi… and I’m a hard-SF, frequently Mil-SF cat. I was a science nerd in school, and the fantasy or soft sci-fi just doesn’t work.

    I will heed your advice regarding Chesterton. (have kindle, will read)

    Mew

  • AceInTX

    my question is this…why would you reject Santorum’s conversion on an issue that is one leg of the conservative stool…and thus Santorim himself….thus sticking us with Romney who has had a supposed “Road To Damascus” type conversion on every conservative issue under the sun…SEVERAL TIMES!!!

    I’m just curious to know why you have a “visceral” reaction, (in your own words), against Santorum when he has been solidly conservative on social and national security issues as well as property rights and other issues…when he might be the only alternative to a Northeastern liberal who is a fair weather conservative at best…on every issue?

  • jamesm

    if the establishment keeps shoving Romney. Any objective observer would say Gingrich is head and shoulders above Romney. Establishment is not smart…too many cocktails since 1996.

  • jack0001

    obozo will hang us seperately!

    ABO! ABO! ABO! ABO! ABO! ABO! ABO! ABO! ABO! ABO! ABO!

  • OCBill

    The best explanation of conservatism I’ve heard other than Reagan’s “A Time for Choosing.” Imagine Reagan’s speech given with the fervor of an evangelist. Amazing, just amazing.

    http://www.therightscoop.com/full-speech-allen-west-at-cpac-2012/

  • Renascent

    I don?t know how a serious conservative could hear the three speeches today and not favor Newt. Personally, I want to live in Newt?s America!

  • carolina

    They have worked hard at packing public events ever since SC.
    Meanwhile, the Paul supporters have their own strategy.
    This could be a VERY interesting convention…..

  • acat

    I’m hardly a Romney supporter, but you already knew that. The last candidate I actually *liked* in this thing was Perry.

    I’m sort of grudgingly supporting Gingrich at this point. More on that below.

    Santorum’s “conversion” (note the air-quotes) was largely on fiscal issues, and was a complete 180, thus the “Road to Damascus” image fits.

    However.

    Santorum’s answers in the debates did *not* reflected this moment; he continued to speak positively about government solutions and their inherent increase in spending and control. Santorum also has a lot of history with unions. If he’s had a true conversion, I’d expect him to be able to do a better Scott Walker impression…

    Further, Santorum’s conversion came about after he was out of office, so it fails the “Words. Just words.” test for this cat. There’s no proof that he’s actually changed his mind. I’m not saying it’s impossible, but I am saying that I don’t believe it.

    Gabe’s piece over at Ace of Spades sums this up better than I can .. it’s worth a read. If you come away from it believing Santorum’s changed, that’s up to you. I don’t see it.

    Worse, even if I do accept his about-face at .. face value.. there’s still the decades of video tape of not just social-conservative but *very* social-conservative positions. There’s a reason why Terri Schaivo came up in the debates, y’know Further, while I don’t disagree with some of Santorum’s positions, I don’t think his blunt statements are going to go over well with the squishy middle, the independents upon whose votes this election will turn.

    Gingrich, on the other paw, appears to have undergone his own metamorphosis; he and wife 3.0 seem pretty dedicated to one another. He had accumulated a respectably solid conservative voting record as a representative, and his fiscal work – while more wonkish and difficult to put in layman’s terms – do not strike me as unconservative. (see my conversations with Red State poster Menlo regarding HIPPA)

    I also give him a pass on Global Warming, for two reasons. First, I had to give the same pass to several candidates this year, including IIRC Barbour, Pawlenty and Romney. Second, Gingrich appears to have been after a seat at the table, a place where he could champion private-sector solutions and draw conservative attention to nanny-state garbage like Kyoto.

    Does that answer your question, Ace?

    Mew

  • jamesm

    I agree. I watched and listened.

  • http://www.gmsplace.com/ civil truth

    …a very interesting categorizing of different types and purposes behind this form of writing.There are also some other excellent essays on speculative fiction in this collection, titled On Stories.

    It’s important to understand that the universe of Lewis’ trilogy is the medieval cosmos with corresponding planetary influences that permeate the works (c.f. Michael Ward’s Planet Narnia) within which Lewis is creating myth.. His best effort in fiction (and final work) of course is Till We Have Faces in which he recreates the tale of Cupid and Psyche.

    I’ve only read a few of Chestertons’s works, including The Man Who Was Thursday – but he’s so complex in his writing that I find it difficult to make forward progress in the face of all the delightful byways that he opens up along the way.

  • Vegas_Rick

    Sounds like you consider everyone who disagrees with you to be mentally deficient.

    Perhaps the deficiency is closer to home.

    P.S. You don’t have to hang around here either.

  • http://impudent.edublogs.org/ kyle8

    I used to be a hard sci guy, Ben Bova, Heinlein, A E Van Vogt. But as I grew older I began to like more escapist fare, Now I almost exclusively read heroic fantasy. When I read fiction at all.

  • Vegas_Rick

    nt

  • Vegas_Rick

    Romney was the Governor of a very blue state where his most conservative acts were to issue vetoes he knew would be over ridden.

    For him to say, “I was a conservative Governor.” would be ludicrous.

    Severely conservative is just hilarious.

  • aesthete

    Heinlein definitely went from soft (his juveniles, which were quite good) to hard sci-fi, back to soft (Lazarus Long and Stranger in a Strange Land). I always loved the juveniles and his middle period, but it took me a while to appreciate Heinlein’s later stuff. I’m still not in at the Philip K Dick level of airy, sociological sci-fi, thank goodness, but I can appreciate softer sci-fi on its own merits. Funny thing is, I read all genres: I just don’t like them blending into one another (i.e., science fantasy). It takes real skill to write a work between two genres that wouldn’t have been better in just one of those genres (again, see most science fantasy works).

  • WY_Cowboy

    Because I think it would be very cool to live there!

  • aesthete

    Do you have a link?

    Chesterton’s Father Brown short stories are very approachable. I find all of his works very readable, but some of them have to do with subjects that are hard to approach in a simple or readily available way — certainly, some of his works require more investment than others. Put another way, Chesterton may write complexly about complex ideas, but he doesn’t write complexly or pretentiously about simple ideas — that’s something every writer should have as a basic criteria (esp non-fiction writers), and I appreciate that about Chesterton.

  • maybenexttime

    Romney is the most scripted politician I’ve ever seen in my lifetime. Not only is he overly-scripted, but his dependency on having that script in front of him is the most “severe” aspect of his personality.

    What happens when he goes off script and attempts to ad-lib? He says really dumb things that make the DNC’s and MSM’s job so much easier. He plays right into their stereotypes because, after all, that is how Romney thinks the script should sound.

    This guy is going to destroy the conservative movement. The GOP establishment had better figure out how to stop the monster they’ve created…and fast.

  • onemovoter

    Well Rick Perry that is……

    He was awesome as usual. I so miss him as a candidate.

    Here’s the linkage since I don’t have the embed.

    Rick Perry at CPAC

    / sigh

  • thosjefferson

    If you watched the speech, the CPAC audience loved it, with several standing ovations and a huge crowd. Erick’s anti-Romney psychosis is getting worse with time.

    I suspect Romney misspoke, and meant to say “seriously” instead of “severely,” but it’s typical for Erick to strain at a gnat and swallow a camel. He’ll go berserk over Romney saying “severely” and think nothing of supporting EmperorNewt’s grandiose megalomania.

  • Ned Reck

    Poor Mitt… he’s ’bout as an awkward-a-fella with his words… as I have ever known.

    hmmmm… Could it be that his word-rehearsals are not really… heart-felt?

    Folks… the right words should literally jump out of an honest person’s mouth. Those words just seem to come up sideways in Mitt’s mouth.

    Ned

  • http://www.gmsplace.com/ civil truth

    It’s part of a collection called On Stories and Other Essays on Literature

    http://www.amazon.com/Stories-Other-Essays-Literature/dp/0156027682

    Heinlein is a mix, mostly good. I never did manage to grok Stranger in a Strange Land, but did like Job: A Comedy of Justice and The Moon is Harsh Mistress. I still have Starship Troopers on my to read list. Heinlein definitely was not a fan of today’s welfare state/centralized government.

  • thosjefferson

    What could be better than being introduced by your former mistress? I’d love to have my kids and grandkids look up to Calista, the First Lady, and EmperorNewt as their leaders. That he attracts any support demonstrates the power of rhetoric over behavior and values.

  • Renascent

    Sure. Newt’s concept is to incentivize a private sector initiative that provides access to unique raw materials. The vast majority of the created jobs will be on Earth, but you could go if you’re qualified

  • Melody Warbington (rwm52)

    I wore a homemade burlap ribbon to mark the occasion. Does that count?

  • aesthete

    If he’d been this good when his campaign started, he would have walked off with the nomination.

  • http://www.examiner.com/x-1597-Charlotte-Law--Politics-Examiner Mike gamecock DeVine

    Santorum has improved his campaign skills, he has found his voice and his rise looks like to me the assertion of tea partier influence. I am all in FOR Santorum and not just against Obama, although the latter is essential as well. What I really like about Santorums’ rise too is that ObamaCare mandates contrasted with RomneyCare BEFORE the religious issue is what launched his surge and that his speeches in response to the religious mandate has emphasized the mandate part as being just as wrong as the religious aspects. He seems to get the economic freedom issue well. Heck, he is a conservative, flawed, but carrying the cause. I “feel” happy being for this improved Santorum as a vessel for conservatism..

    much more later

  • jc230

    a thorough path forward. It was Newt at his best. If you missed it, I highly recommend you listen to his speech via C-Span. Also, listen to Andrew Breitbart too. He made it clear this election isn’t about ONE of the three GOP candidates, this is about America versus Obama and his “government knows best” policies. People, wake up, imagine four more years of Obama! He’s putting forth unconscionable policies right now, in an election year he’s taking care of his base. Imagine what he’ll do with unfettered power, no election to face. He’s poking you (Conservatives) in the eyes pre-election, think about how you’ll (we’ll) fair post election.

  • http://www.examiner.com/x-1597-Charlotte-Law--Politics-Examiner Mike gamecock DeVine

    to the attacks from the Left on his faith and middle class values and life.

  • tonotisto

    n/t

  • Melody Warbington (rwm52)

    but I’ve seen the movie dozens of times (I know that’s not the same). It’s one of those that my husband and son watch every single time they find it aring. Every single time.

    By the way, Til We Have Faces is one of my all-time favorite books. I may have to re-read that one soon.

  • thosjefferson

    Instead of focusing on a single word, Erick, you could focus on this:

    “Politicians are routinely elected on promises to change Washington, but when they come here, they become creatures of Washington. They begin to see government as the answer to every challenge and the solution for every problem. At every turn, they try to substitute the heavy hand of the federal government for free citizens and free enterprise. They think government knows better ? and can do better ? than a free people exercising their free will. And this President is the worst offender. Barack Obama is the poster child for the arrogance of government.”

    To this I would add, in the Republican party, Gingrich and Santorum, as professional DC politicians and lobbyists, are the Republican poster children for the arrogance of government. They claim they want to shrink government, but their entire professional lives revolve around it. It’s how they’ve “earned” millions of dollars. They can talk conservatism, but they don’t live it.

    Maybe that’s what you prefer: talk over action. Romney’s the only candidate in the primaries who actually lives conservatism. Maybe he can’t give a speech as well (although that never disqualified Perry, did it?), but pretty speeches by professional politicians and lobbyists are exactly what got us in the mess we’re in now.

  • deniser55

    Why looking for a place to move?

  • Common_Cents

    His message is we can’t let the left/media define anything and intimidate us in nominating some milquetoast McCain appeaser.

    We are continually intimidated by the media and it’s time to challenge them head on. Those passive aggressive morons back down every time they are confronted w/ confidence and facts.

    Gingrich is the only guy who is going to take it to the left, obama, and hold media accountable.

    Gingrich’s baggage threat is a big fakeout by the left. You cannot compare old baggage to some new breaking stuff. They are scared to death of running against him.

    Everybody knows it.

  • deniser55

    Romney is the opposite side of the Obama coin. And I sure wish someone would stop him from smacking his lips when he gives a speech. He turns his body like he’s on a spun pole. The man is a phony.

  • Bill S

    What part of “direct quote” don’t you understand?

    As Vegas_Rick says, change the channel. And change your website habits. You probably won’t like it here.

  • aesthete

    The book is radically different from the movie (two completely different stories, almost opposite themes). It explores the idea of a government with rights, freedoms, etc. operated on the premise that only those who served in the military could vote. The book did this by following the character of Johnny Rico through his training and military career. It was an interesting exploration of what military service really means, and how it should relate to rights, government, and the moral ethic.

    The movie is somewhat amusing in a campy way, but is portraying an essentially fascist dictatorship with (un)healthy doses of blind military worship. For better or for worse, the book is completely different from the movie.

  • fightnright

    “I will not say: do not weep, for not all tears are an evil” Ol?rin (Gandalf the White)

    and for all seasons:

    “It must often be so, Sam, when things are in danger: some one has to give them up, lose them, so that others may keep them.” Frodo Baggins

  • AceInTX

    I am with you 100% on everything up to your comment on Perry…I’m not happy or content with the choices we have.

    I didn’t realize you were leaning towards Gingrich….I’m still pretty in the middle between Gingrich and Santorum if they are the only choice I have to defeat or vote against Romney. I’m solidly anti Romney and I’ll vote for anyone BUT Romney…in fact I’ve even reconsiled myself to the possibility of voting for Paul…strictly as a protest in the primary vote….simply because…I trust Paul to do what he say’s he’ll do…and he is right at least some times….I don’t trust Romney to do ANYTHING he says…period.

    I agree with everything else you’ve said….though I’m leaning a little more toward Santorum than Gingrich because I trust Santorum more on non fiscal issues than I do Newt…and Rick doesn’t have Newt’s primary and most significant flaw….Rick can shut the hell up when keeping your big mouth shut is called for…That ain’t so with Newt….Newt has this annoying habit of eviscerating an anti-conservative argument with one breath and in the very next breath making everything he just said irrelevant by talking himself into a whole.

    Anyway my only question is…if it comes down to a choice between Santorum….is your visceral negative reaction to him such that you would vote for Romney…and if so…how do you answer my critique that Rick is a true believer and can be trusted on at least two legs of the conservative stool while Romney is tepid at bast on all of them and can’t be trusted to stand by any conservative principle, policy or promise?

  • dajeeps

    I am most concerned about the economy. Keynesianism has failed. Centrally planned economies fail. Crony capitalism is rampant in DC as regulatory agencies are tools to squash competition and dole out favors for friends. There is far more to the story, variations on these themes, with specific examples too numerous to count. He didn’t mention any of them, nor did he even pay it passing notice.

    These are, arguably, the most pressing issues. We are in such a financial mess, and are in such trouble because of these things, lack of free markets and economic pay to play, with politicians shielding themselves from the malaise, that we won’t last another decade – and it’s not deserving of specifics? If we have to educate this guy in Milton Friedman and Bastiat and Hayek, well he’s just wrong. He’s the wrong guy for the wrong time if he cannot articulate the economics of freedom because it is the only thing that is going to save us from mess we are in. Period.

  • acat

    At this point, Illinois is so screwed up I may have to choose between Romney and Buddy Roemer… at which point I’m flippin’ a coin.

    Mew

  • John6078

    “”I strenuously object?” Is that how it’s done? Hm? “Objection, your Honor!” “Overruled” “No, no. I STRENUOUSLY object.” “Oh! You strenuously object. Then I’ll take some time and reconsider

  • tetrisd85

    I can’t help but think we made a mistake rejecting Jon Huntsman. Conservative record, family man, authentic, electable… Something is dysfunctional with the nominating process.

  • carolina

    per kudlow just now.
    I guess that explains why ‘The Five’ on Fox said they thought Newt sounded like he was giving up.
    I’m unhappy about this.
    I don’t like any of the rest of the candidates. bummer

  • carolina

    per kudlow just now.
    I guess that explains why ‘The Five’ on Fox said they thought Newt sounded like he was giving up.
    I’m unhappy about this.
    I don’t like any of the rest of the candidates. bummer

  • Common_Cents

    “Meanwhile, Reuters is reporting that the Department of Justice and Securities and Exchange Commission have shown interest in opening an investigation into Adelson’s casino operations in Macau”

  • clowngirl

    That’s a lot of pressure for Callista’s first public speech.

    And it would’ve been more helpful to have a rousing speech about Newt’s conservative credentials than a wife’s “lighter side of Newt” type of thing.

    Apparently Callista will be taking interviews now and that’s all well and good — but CPAC didn’t seem the best forum for her debut.

    But I agree that Newt’s speech was excellent!

  • jon11

    im 32 years old and have never lived under a president who has worked in the real economy.

    supposedly we’re the party of free enterprise and markets but we only ever elect career politicians.

    I spend a lot time dealing with lefties. They are positively giddy at the prospect of us nominating newt, who’s baggage has baggage or santorum…the catholic earmark king…and for good reason.

    They look at the head to heads. they know Romney is only one who is consistently close to obama in those polls. they know he’s the only candidate with an operation.

    if you guys really think romney is so bad you can’t in good conscience vote for him, than by all means…don’t.

    but can we please drop this ridiculous fantasy that newt or santorum could carry a swing state?

    if we’re going to commit suicide, let do it like men…japanese style…Hara-kiri. That would be a vote for santorum or newt KNOWING they haven’t got a prayer.

    lets not accidentally OD on pills…that would be a vote for santorum or newt because you think they could win…and then being surprised when we wake up dead in november

  • http://www.nighttwister.com NightTwister

    no-text

  • http://www.examiner.com/x-1597-Charlotte-Law--Politics-Examiner Mike gamecock DeVine

    of data on the three men with feet of clay that remain and weigh them for Newt! seriously, good work

    I am now associate counsel for Santorum….more later…btw, Newt’s candidacy is dead…just saying…

  • carolina

    The amount of pure unadulterated POWER at stake makes it extremely intense. Big govt and big money have formed clubs that compete to run the show.
    These people have NO sense of humor or humility. Romney is a pawn in the game, just like W was.
    No wonder DeMint is retiring after this term. He sees it all for what it is.

  • jc230

    I want to live in Newt’s America too!!!

  • thosjefferson

    apparently prefer rhetoric over behavior, led by Erick. Romney is the only candidate in the primaries who actually lives conservatism. I thought conservatives were all about individual initiative, free markets, family values, and small government. Yet the other remaining candidates have lived off the federal government their whole lives, both in and out of office, without working in the private sector (unless you call lobbying the “private” sector).

    Maybe Romney can?t give a speech as well (although that never disqualified Perry, did it?) as the professional politicians and lobbyists (i.e., Gingrich and Santorum), but pretty speeches are exactly what got us in the mess we?re in now.

  • http://www.nighttwister.com NightTwister

    You mean, like creating this entire bureaucracy in Mass? The one used as an example for this one at the federal level?

    Individual initiative? Or is it individual mandate?

    Romney’s experience in government was as a center-left moderate. I’ve seen or heard nothing that would lead me to believe he’d do any different this time around.

  • heimdall

    If you want to look at head to head polls, take a gander at Rasmussen’s latest polling today. Rasmussen has the latest Santorum Vs. Obama at +4 for Obama. However, Obama is reaching 50% VS. Romney, who is ten points back.

    How is it that Romney is more electable?

  • jamesm

    Quote:

    Meanwhile, Reuters is reporting that the Department of Justice and Securities and Exchange Commission have shown interest in opening an investigation into Adelson’s casino operations in Macau.

    http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/209935-report-adelson-done-giving-to-gingrich-as-funding-dries-up

  • heimdall

    Mitt isn’t worked up about individual mandates or healthcare solutions in general. Remember the last debate?

    http://www.theblaze.com/stories/romney-rebuffs-santorum-on-health-care-its-not-worth-getting-angry-about/

  • papabear

    ET

  • jamesm

    http://harndenblog.dailymail.co.uk/2012/02/top-republican-at-cpac-jeb-bush-could-emerge-as-nominee-at-a-brokered-convention-.html

  • clowngirl

    trying to convince you it was good.

    He got a standing ovation just for saying we need a new president.Come on already.

    I’m surprised he wasn’t encouraged to follow with something like “the sky is blue” and hope the crowd would jump to their feet for that too.

    I’ll admit I could force myself to watch the first 14 minutes at one sitting but even having been subjected to Romney’s presence in debates for months – and previously in 2008- I was actually surprised at how unbelievably obvious, weak and boring his speech was.

    My utlra reductionist analysis is this: Gold medal to Gingrich, Silver to Santorum and Romney didn’t belong on the stage.

    Newt had substance and style – I’d even say he was compelling throughout, Santorum had substance – and I did believe him but he needs to be a lot more interesting. Romney was both boring and substance free (at least for the portion I could force myself to watch)

    I was surprised to see that Newt’s speech was actually longer than the other few because his was the only one that didn’t *feel* long and that I would’ve liked to have seen go on longer.

  • Melody Warbington (rwm52)

    I figured as much about the movie, and it is indeed campy. I should know. As I said, every single time it’s on.

  • clowngirl

    Don’t believe anybody who says that he is.

    If you’re nervous about it, send Newt a donation to encourage him!

  • http://www.nighttwister.com NightTwister

    –no-text–

  • vangoghssister

    Just before walking onto the stage at CPAC, candidate Romney turned to his minions and asked “now fellas, how many times did you tell me to say the word ‘conservative’ or variations of it during my speech? Was it 26 times? Oh, oh 27 times? Are you sure, because 26 is such a nice round even number. Okay! Okay! If the focus group said 27 is the magic number to make them believe I’m actually a conservative, then 27 it is.”

    As he waited to be introduced, candidate Romney could be seen mouthing the number 27 27 27 27 27 27 27 27 like a mantra. Did it work?

    Nope.

  • http://www.nighttwister.com NightTwister

    Bored, mostly.

  • realcountrymusic

    The more I see of Mitt Romney, the more I think we’re doomed. This guy can’t beat the Obama machine. Look at the polls today. Obama is running away with it the longer this goes on.

    We’ve been sold out by the GOP.

  • heimdall

    n/t

  • Scope

    BDS has not abated, and that is with both Obama and many Republicans that still hold W responsible for the move away from conservatism, and fiscal responsibility. Look at the current actors on the R stage right now. Some are being pillioried for going along with the Bush “compassionate conservative” positions. The Bush wounds with what Bush did, such as destroying the free market in order to save it are still very deep and raw. It makes no difference that Jeb may or may not be more conservative that his dad and brother. They have both effectively rendered a Jeb presidency as something that won’t happen in any election for many years, if ever. I doubt many are looking for three strikes and you are out, or a family that has created a dynasty. It seems from the new ACU president Cardenas has that dream, but it’s probably the most unlikely person to be brought forward in a convention, even though Laura Bush has voiced a desire for Jeb to be the candidate this year. Laura Bush, shortly after leaving the WH has come out with some really not conservative positions, like being in favor of gay marriage. Hey, she seems to have been the impetus for No Child Left Behind. No more Bush’s please.

  • greyeagle

    He was not a conservative Governor. His positions were like a liberal Democrat. He is not a conservative period.

  • acat

    I think it’s too soon.

    I also think 2016 is about perfect for him … but it means he’d either need to get a veep nod this go’round or he’d need Obama to win a second term….

    What do you think?

    Mew

  • http://www.gmsplace.com/ civil truth

    …and the country will not be amused.

    Surely a country of 300-million+ can find candidates for President not named Clinton, Kennedy, or Bush (or Obama, of course).

  • jamesm

    than Romney according to Doug Wead a senior campaign advisor. This is a huge breaking story according to him.

    Apparently their caucus strategy is working. He says that this year was set up to give Romney the nomination,

  • jamesm

    http://www.usnews.com/news/politics/articles/2012/02/10/romney-and-paul-not-allies-but-not-foes-either

  • Scope

    I agree, no more dynasty’s no matter what their last name is. A third Bush presidency will very likely never happen. Again, no matter what Jeb is his father and brother have destroyed any chance of him becoming the third Bush term. It may be possible that in the distant future that one of the grandkids may go for it, and maybe get it, but it won’t happen in my lifetime. I’m hoping that Chelsea decides to not procreate. By the way, is she still married to her prince? I read they were already having some problems with living under the same roof some time ago.

  • Common_Cents

    that woulda really brought the house down!

    Move over Rick Astley, you’ve been Mitt Rolled!

  • Scope

    in any meaningful way. Paul went hard and heavy against Gingrich in Iowa with negative ads. His supporters went so hard against Perry when he got in, to the point of lying about Perry’s record and positions. It is very interesting to me that Paul has openly said that he hasn’t had any problems with Romney’s positions. There is something very very strange about where Paul is siding. Romney seems to be the antithesis of what Paul supports. Very very strange bedfellows indeed. I’ve already decided that Paul would surely give up his delegates to Romney in a convention, but I can’t figure out why.

  • http://travismonitor.blogspot.com Freedoms Truth

    “Social Conservatism can be and should be embodied with our Constitutional framework. ”

    The ONE candidate who is most correc tabout constitutional issues, most attuned and done the most to get the right kind of SCOTUS Justices confirmed … is Rick Santorum.,

    “his social con beliefs at times run roughshod over our constitutional rights” rubbish. Your comments are an utter cheap shot.

    It’s also bizarre to call Romney a “Democrat Socialist Progressive” what’s left for Obama? COMMUNIST?!?

  • http://travismonitor.blogspot.com Freedoms Truth

    Dont be dispirited. Obama is in deep trouble wrt re-election. Dont expect it will be easy for him.

    For the anti-Romney talk, the fact remains that he can be
    a more formidable candidate than Dole, McCain and GHWBush … not saying much, but understand we’ve been here before.

    We have a real conservative – Santorum – and still RedStaters want someone else. Yeah, if its not Romney, Newt, Santorum … it’s Obama. Go figure.

    So we need to quit harping and whining and get Obama defeated – by any means necessary.

  • jamesm

    I heard something very interesting tonight. But would his delegates vote for Romney? I don’t think so. Would they be required to vote for him at the convention under Paul’s direction? I dont know yet. I was looking for the 2012 convention rules. Something is up.

  • demsaresatanic

    petty and vulgar, worthy of an egg-sucking liberal or a Romneybot.

  • acat

    In the short term, I certainly agree with you and civil_truth.

    In the longer term, I’d be prepared to give a Bush or a Reagan or a Ford a shot .. but I’d be taking them at face value, not based on who’s in their family tree.

    Hmmm. I wonder if perhaps Willard Romney expected to still be riding on George’s legacy all these years later…

    Mew

  • tetrisd85

    I think people need to stop teasing Newt for this.

    Stephan Hawking says we need to colonize outer space ASAP.

    And the ex-head of NASA recently penned a piece at CNN.com in support of Newt’s vision.

    I think it’s a good idea personally. Plus think about all the technology we have gotten from the space program — the internet for starters.

  • tetrisd85

    $250 — way more than I can afford (will be late on my rent next month) but it’s worth it to see the only conservative who stirs my passions get the nomination.

  • tetrisd85

    Obama must want to go up against Romney and is afraid of the Newtinator.

  • Renascent

    All we need is one primary in which Newt & Rick run 1-2, with Romney a poor third, or fourth. Then the race can begin to achieve a genuine conservative dialog.

    Hey Arizona and/or Michigan, refocus this race!

  • texasref

    they would rightly be outed as a moby on the spot!

    Mittens “Obama-Lite” Romney–tastes great! Less filling!

  • texasref

    Thank you for quoting from my all time favorite movie!

  • texasref

    You forgot to say He is “an angry version of” G W Bush…

    Always angry…it probably has something to do with his position on homosexuality, but since that’s an issue I’m LIBERAL on, I won’t discuss it at this point in time.

  • texasref

    nt

  • texasref

    there is some sort of intense personal attachment, like similar religion.

    I noticed it among people of color when trying to talk about President Obama.

    Interesting. Oh well.

    P.S.: I don’t care what someone’s religion is or isn’t when determining who should lead the free world. So don’t take my observations the wrong way, please.

  • texasref

    jeepers!

  • texasref

    and if that’s a hanging offense around here, I will apologize and never say it again, but that’s how I honestly feel.

  • texasref

    Suck an egg, thosjefferson

  • texasref

    I was wondering where all the love for Gingrich went to…I’m still with Newt all the way. And if I can’t have Newt, then call me a Ronulan.

  • texasref

    Anyone But Obama

    That’s a pretty large universe of anyone’s!

  • texasref

    stop pretending THEIR guy can win.

    “Conservatism wins every time it’s tried.”–Rush Limbaugh

    Let’s try conservatism. Not Romneyism.

  • demsaresatanic

    is a classic Freudian slip. Romney thinks conservatives are severe, his statements on liking to fire people and not caring about the poor are merely Romney’s attempt to play to the “severe” unwashed masses that he perceives conservatives to be.

  • texasref

    And Obama will out teleprompt his A-DOUBLE-S every time.

  • texasref

    Never gonna let you down!

  • Patrish

    Oooohhh, Miz Scope! You better watch out for those black helicopters, girl. This could be a multi-leveled, multi-lateral, multi-national cluster foxtrot. And who could forget his dashing son Rand is mixed up in it. Oh, don’t leave out the Rand Corporation just for good measure. They are in on it as well.

  • islandjoehhisc

    You haven’t seen the Lazarus sequel have you.

  • Creedo

    My jaw is in my lap right now after running across this on the tubes. According to the Paul campaign, they’ve amassed the most precinct delegates to date:

    http://youtu.be/9x28_I9oIVg

    If this is true – hard to believe it is – but if it is, this entire race is going to be turned on its head. According to the Paul camp, Santorum spent all that money in Iowa, Colorado, Minnesota, and Missouri, but Paul walked away with all of the precinct delegate spots!

  • jamesm

    Yes. He seems to have won four or five caucus states. Delegates are what count and his people are in position,

  • jc230

    This is getting very interesting. The mainstream media doesn’t want Newt, the Obama team tries to persuade us they “believe” Romney is to be feared, the mainstream conservative media backs Romney, the stay the course Republicans don’t want him, and the Obama administration is potentially intimidatomg a Newt financial supporter. Do we need more, seems like we have our canidate, Newt!

  • jc230

    I re-listened to the GOP speeches, Newt’s resonates the most. This is Newt at his best, clearly authentic, and intelligent and he has a thorough go-forward plan to save the U.S. Again, I will restate an earlier post I made, the mainstream media doesn’t want Newt as the GOP candidate; the Obama administration tries to mislead us that they fear Romney, complacent Republicans do not want Newt; the mainstream conservative media backs Romney. Do we need any more evidence that Newt is the most feared GOP candidate; therefore, Newt should be our candidate of choice!

  • Creedo

    Think about that.

    Newt polls behind Romney.
    Newt polls behind Santorum.
    Newt polls behind Paul.

    Newt polls around a ten point landslide loss against Obama. Why? Because of the damage he’s done against himself with conservatives, and because Independents regard him generally as what is wrong with Washington.

    Worse yet, there is audio of Newt supporting the mandates in Obamacare. How is he going to draw that distinction when he was saying that it’s the way forward?

    Santorum and, yes, Paul are the only two who have any credibility in the discussion against Obamacare. Both Newt and Romney have cut themselves off at the knees with their former positions. Santorum seems to be the best hope. Does he have the organization to do it?

  • elizaliza

    Paul is the only one who IS SMALL govt conservative, and his whole Iran thing?
    Do you really think Paul will let us be attacked by Iran? That’s just dumb, he will nuke Iran to kingdom come … if it’s necessary.

    But those Halliburton excesses, mittens and newt and santorum will continue that one.

  • redmymind

    Time for a different coach, Mittens.

  • tomrt

    Jan 29, 1980: Carter v Reagan: 65-31, Carter v Bush 62-32

    ABC News-Harris Survey
    Tuesday AM, January 29th, 1980

    CARTER NOW FAR AHEAD OF BOTH REAGAN AND BUSH
    By Louis Harris

    President Carter so dominates the American political scene now that his margin over Ronald Reagan in a post-Iowa trial heat has risen to an overwhelming 65-31 percent. And against George Bush, the GOP candidate who finished first in the recent Iowa caucuses, Carter leads by only a slightly lower 62-32 percent.

    Therefore, Reagan was getting decimated, and was polling “dead last” against Carter since Bush was polling 4% better than Reagan.

    Moral of the story: GE polls 6 months before the GE begins in earnest mean diddly, and no serious person should make their voting choice based on such early poll snapshots.

  • tomrt

    I don’t know of any foreign policy issue on which Ron Paul’s views can provably shown to be much different from those of a garden variety OWS protester. Do you?

  • Creedo

    I wouldn’t bring it up except that so many leftists impugned the Tea Party by trying to associate foriegn policy views to them, when they are an organization centered around domestic policy. OWS is a bunch of clowns, but their focus is not on foreign policy, it’s on trying to turn the US into a european socialist style state. Sure, you could probably make a leap and try to ascribe foriegn policy to them, but if you want to do that, you have to assume that all McCain voters favor his views on amnesty for illegals. That’s a bridge too far.

    You don’t need to bring up OWS protesters to show that Paul is wrong on foreign policy. The guy wants to leave Afghanistan to the Taliban, and Iraq to Al Queda. What more proof do you need than someone who thinks our military can’t win out against these scrubs?

  • Creedo

    Reagan had principles. Reagan didn’t cheat on his wife and then leave her when she had cancer. Reagan didn’t have a history of following the political tides to high ground when it was convenient. Reagan had executive experience. Reagan didn’t have a history as a lobbyist for Freddie/Fannie. Reagan didn’t have audio of him backing mandates for healthcare. Reagan didn’t sit on a couch with a despicable liberal embracing the need for economy crushing regulations.

    Let’s not pretend that Newt is Reagan. If Newt gets the nomination, I’ll hold my nose and vote for Not Obama, but it will only be a symbolic gesture of loyalty to the party. Newt doesn’t stand a chance of overcoming his record with women, independents, or bring along the “blue dog” set that Reagan was able to inspire. There’s a reason why there was a conservative uprising to depose of his leadership, and it wasn’t because the establishment was out to get him. Newt WAS the establishment and he was caving for political reasons over principle when it was time to stand with a titanium spine.

  • Ketih W

    I just grok, how many SF fans are on Red State, I don’t feel so alone any more. My gateway drug into SF is Star Trek(original/classic) TV show,(Wrath of Khan is the (only) best Trek Film, don’t get me started on the horror known as new Trek film, it actually makes Shatner’s ST 5 film look good!) then I got exposed to the Giants, Asimov, Clarke, Heinlein, Niven, etc. I’ve read Starship Trooper and enjoying it, but was probably too young to fully understand the politics behind it. Been meaning to reread it. Has anyone read Halderman’s ‘Forever War’, its sort of a counterpoint to Startship Trooper, also its being considered treatment as a film. Also he wrote a sequel to it called ‘Forever Peace’ which I haven’t gottten around to reading.

  • WillWong

    Back in Late November early December 2011, Newt was polling far above Romney both nationally as well as in Iowa, SC, and Florida. He was closing in on Romney in NH. That was before several million dollars of unanswered negative ads from Romney and Ron Paul hit Newt.

    Point is polls are volatile and shouldn’t be used as the sole criterion. Case in point….back at the same time, Santorum was languishing in last place.

  • noogan

    Conservatives deserve a candidate who doesn’t advocate government intrusion into our lives–and that is precisely what Rick Santorum does in this interview: IN HIS OWN WORDS. Rick Santorum is a big-government liberal, posing as a “conservative.” He’s nothing of the kind.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Gwwmm-cQxU&feature=player_embedded#!

  • lizzie

    I could not watch Romney (always makes me tense and angry that he is in this mix) or Santorum at CPAC.
    but, I watched Gingrich twice – the live speech, and then the re-run at 11:15 pmET.
    Yes, he is that compelling, even when I disagree with him.
    It was a finely honed general campaign speech.

    I noted your earlier comment about Callista as the introducer (only watched her once). Well, she IS the symbol of his personal “baggage”, and she has to sell herself as a possible FLOTUS. That was my thought about why she did the intro.
    Just wish Anita Perry could convince Callista to try for a somewhat natural hair-look, replace the blonde helmet circa 1964.

    Ok, only Anita Perry ever won my vote for FLOTUS…but I do give Callista credit for courage yesterday.

    Very interesting to gauge Perry and Gingrich’s speeches together. It does look like Rick Perry is about to become the key surrogate for Newt.

  • maybenexttime

    The American electorate is much more polarized now. You’ll never see a national presidential poll where one candidate has a 30% lead at any point in the contest. Before the 1990s, voters were much less stubborn in their political loyalties.

    The news media now caters to pre-determined political viewpoints. That never used to be the case. As a result, so many voters are working backwards from a premise about their own political party, and their opponents’ political party. The pool of swing voters seems to be shrinking as both parties peel away moderates and convert them into hardliners.

    I don’t think we’ll ever see a true landslide victory where a candidate winds up with nearly 60% of the PV like Reagan did in 1984. Those days are over.

  • lizzie

    here is C-Span’s permanent link to Perry’s 18-minute CPAC speech:
    http://www.c-spanvideo.org/program/RickPerryR

    and other C-Span coverage of Perry during his campaign.

    It was the 60-second debate format combined with Romney’s early attack on in-state tuition that made Rick Perry seem unprepared. All his speeches were terrific, as were most of his one-on-one interviews.

    I will note that, at CPAC, Perry showed how he can modulate his facial expressiveness for a general audience.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sFIieZRDC4U
    is a 5:50 minute interview done with Hot Air at CPAC (yeah, better late than never)
    Perry says he “reloaded his magazine and is fighting on a different
    front” then speculates about why not a brokered convention?

    Also another good effort at modulating facial expression – I mention this because Perry IS very expressive. He does have a ‘blank deer in headlight’ expression that has been used to embed the “dumber than W” stereotype. In this Hot Air interview, he shows that look at least twice. I started to realize it is a pilot’s game face when he is thinking, and now Perry knows how long he can be in that mode before he needs to stop thinking and start talking again :)

    Anyway, I never did understand why Romney always got a pass for the debates, even when he had his “Mitt Fits”, and now that his method of direct attacks is more obvious.

    And, I never understood why Ron Paul’s inevitable rambling into incoherence on the debate stage also got a pass. Now he is playing cheerful Gramps to stop that rambling.

  • http://www.nighttwister.com NightTwister

    -no-text-

  • lizremington

    Totally agree with you, Lizzie. I got disgusted with so much of the coverage early on because there seemed to be a concerted effort to show Perry in a bad light because they were so threatened by him. At the same time, reporters and pundits seemed to be circling the wagons for Romney. They are learning the hard way you can’t fool all the people all the time. Perry definitely had a couple of stumbles coming out of the gate, but for someone who had never debated or run a national campaign before, he improved at an astonishing rate, while Romney, who has been running for president for years, seems stuck in a mediocre groove. I look forward to seeing Perry’s next move. And I believe he would be a fabulous Secretary of Energy or Homeland Security.

  • realcountrymusic

    To me it looks over, folks. Obama leads Romney by 10 in some polls, and leads Gingrich and Santorum by more. Heck, PPP just polled him against Jeb Bush nationally, and Obama had something like a 13 point lead, and at least among my friends, the fantasy of the last few months has been that Jeb would come in at the last minute in a brokered convention. Obviously, the name “Bush” is not yet safe for prime time, nationally, as great as Jeb would be compared to the Tin Man, the Cowardly Lion, and the Scarecrow, our remaining choices from a piss-poor field of options. Can you believe we squandered so much time and energy on Herman Cain or Michele Bachmann?

    This guy in the White House has played rope-a-dope with Republicans since 2008. We always fall for it. Characterizing him as a teleprompter-dependent idiot is fun, but it’s wishful thinking. He is cleaning our clocks and he’s smarter than we give him credit for. I hate to admit it, but I’m so depressed. I’m now convinced the opportunity to unseat him has been lost.

    How on earth can we win if it is known by the broader American public that the GOP is opposed to, of all things, legal contraception? This last week has been a pinnacle of stupidity in that respect. Women make up 53% of the presidential electorate, and a vast majority of them have used birth control. Younger women will be turned off the GOP for a generation by this. We’re not electing a pope, and there are so many much more important issues. We chose this hill to die on?

    Obama’s commercials are already in production. This issue is 2012′s Terry Schiavo overreach. That one cost us dearly. Now watch, this will too.

  • josephine

    I believe Romney is on the way out. He said the word “conservative” 29 times (I believe I’m right) What is “severely conservative”. What nonsense is this. He has to be tutored in conservatism and he still can’t get it right.
    Santorum is not conservative either. I see fascist behavior when I see him. Romney’s getting ready to slaughter him and then he’ll be gone. I found him rather silly , cocky, and smart alec and immature in his appearance at CPAC.
    I am still #withnewt and will continue to spread his conservative message as well as I can. He is just right. He has a plan, he has the knowledge, he has the strength to overthrow Obama, and then to ability to know what to do when he gets there. He has class and I liked his yellow tie.
    So I agree-Romney and Santorum have to go.

  • http://www.examiner.com/x-1597-Charlotte-Law--Politics-Examiner Mike gamecock DeVine

    died – Josephus

  • mikwcas

    I am a severely constipated republican! oh i was supposed to say conservative, gal-darnit i’ll never get this conservative thing right!!!

  • Common_Cents

    with a clip of him singing.

  • jon11

    The phonies, based on their support for Romney, include, among others, Chris Christie, Marco Rubio, Bob McDonald, nikki haley…ann coulter…i always new she wasn’t a real conservative:)

    theres newt who sat down with pelosi on climate change, called the ryan plan right wing social engineering, supported an individual mandate until 4-5 years ago, supported deedee scazafova (or whatever her name was) in the 2010 special election.

    Theres Santorum ‘i hate washington so much i couldn’t leave it’…endorsed arlene specter for president…took more ear marks than anyone could possibly keep track of…

    neither of them have spent a day in the private sector and yet in spite of it all they are somehow conservatives.

    so out the three ‘fake’ conservatives in race, Mitt, Newt, And Rick, lets make sure we pick one that can’t compete in the general.

  • izoneguy

    She calls herself a conservative to sell books.
    Right now she is the unofficial spokeswoman for the Romney campaign.
    She said Santorum’s CPAC speech was “flat”.
    Romney is getting desperate.

  • jamesm

    And Bob Guccione Jr. (Penthouse)? She dated these guys? Yeah she has real conservative ideology. LOL

  • demsaresatanic

    were made by Bushites against Reagan. Reagan wasn’t really conservative, Reagan signed an abortion bill, Reagan was reckless, too old and so on. Bush 1 had never done anything for conservatives but he had this great establishment resume. Reagan gave us two landslides, Bush was a one-term flop.

    As tomrt points out, polls this far from the general are worthless media hype. “Let?s not pretend that Newt is Reagan” is pure straw-man argument, and your arguments about women, independents and blue dogs are exactly the same arguments Bushites made against Reagan; history demonstrates that Reagan actually got them and Bush 1 lost them to Clinton.

    Your claim about Newt being pushed out by conservatives and not establishment-types is simply false, Newt was pushed out by weaklings who were scared away by the Newt-Media confrontation. We need a man who will stand up to the media, Romney is like McCain, he sucks up to the media and foolishly thinks that they won’t turn on him just as they turned on McCain after he was nominated.

    You don’t sound like a Romneybot, so I say this with all due respect, you don’t seem to have learned anything from history.

  • Scope

    If Romney is a “severe conservative” then would a requirement to becoming a severe conservative be to sign a state government run healthcare bill, complete with individual mandate, and contraception requirements for that state’s insurers? Buy insurance or else!!!!

    Seems that the CPAC head Al Cardonas (sp) has a severe case of man like for Mitt Romney according to radio and TV interviews where he raved about the greatness of Romney.

    So now that the severe conservative Romney has won the CPAC straw poll, I wonder if there will be some major changes at CPAC this year. For example, they may just change their name to SCPAC- Severe Conservative Political Action Committee. Only requirement to get a 100% rating from SACU, no that’s not sack you, that’s Severe American Conservative Union, is to sign state government run healthcare laws, complete with individual mandate, or else. What a winner for all of the country’s conservatives.

  • http://www.examiner.com/x-1597-Charlotte-Law--Politics-Examiner Mike gamecock DeVine

    Reagan practiced some severe conservatism when he told Fed Chair Volcker to kill inflation in January of 1981. Reagan had the courage to apply the hard medicine and deal with the criticism..

    I don’t think what Romney faced in Mass. was a cake walk, but I doubt it rose to the level of severe! smile

  • noogan

    http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2012/feb/11/romney-wins-washington-timescpac-straw-poll/

  • redmymind

    Z-z-z-z-z-z-z-z-z . . .

  • deVere

    http://theiowarepublican.com/2012/live-blog-new-rpi-chair-election/

    Paul supporters are slowly becoming the new “Republican establishment”.

  • annas

    You can invite me to leave as well if you want, but I agree with WIDoberman. I support Romney, who is conservative. Would you prefer Obama? Don’t say Romney is Obama-lite. There is NO comparison and you know it! I think this will be a VERY difficult election. We cannot just elect someone that one faction wants and hope to win. It is going to take Independents, Moderates, and maybe a few Dems as well as our base to win this. I will go with boring and stable and no scary stuff in his marital background to exciting and bashing the press. Santorum has been ignored because he was not a frontrunner. You will hear his baggage now. The guy lost in his own state by 18 points. Wake up!

  • heimdall

    The only faction that Romney represents are the people who worry about electability and appearing moderate, whatever that means. Romney is not Obama-Lite, he is John Kerry-Lite. Kerry’s flip-flopping was cringe inducing and Romney would be NO better than him. I do not want to cede the health care issue to the Democrats because our guy AGREES WITH THEM.

    Besides, Romney is behind Obama in all the polls today and some recent polling is also showing that Santorum is ahead of Romney in head to head matchups against Obama. Romney is doing more damage to himself now and is going to try and take the whole field down with him.

  • demsaresatanic

    to pull that one off.

  • jon11

    Obama is looking more like a one termer tonight folks, despite erick erickson’s best efforts to see him re elected.

  • Bill S

    .

  • redmymind

    Nothing spectacular about hauling in a truckload of drones to take a strawpoll for you. He was a Massachusetts liberal going into it. Now, he’s a Massachusetts liberal WITH a meaningless strawpoll result. Obama’s second term would be SECURED with this fake “conservative” with a SEVERE credibility issue.

  • demsaresatanic

    with that, it is sooo Romney.

  • aesthete

    President Ron Paul can tell you just how predictive that particular survey is.

  • heimdall

    nt

  • demsaresatanic

    in Maine. After Oromney’s crash and burn in the Midwest isn’t it nice to be home again. And that CPAC straw poll, quite an accomplishment that Romney was able to buy another one of those.

    Btw, have you ever wondered why Newt and Santorum stayed out? Do you think it might have something to do with Maine caucuses being nonbinding upon delegates? Oh what a night for Romney, just no delegates.

  • jamesm

    nt

  • redmymind

    to download more “conservative” words into his system.

  • http://908StraightSt.wordpress.com/ mbecker908

    nt

  • snowshooze

    Oatmeal.

  • heimdall

    Lets just abolish voting altogether and just use straw polls at these events to determine the nominee! It sounds foolproof!!

  • demsaresatanic

    After all, he could have said “Neanderthal.”

  • http://908StraightSt.wordpress.com/ mbecker908

    How about an internet poll to vote for President?

    The get out the vote nazis would be ecstatic! Can you imagine, 175% turnout for the election. Wow!

  • heimdall

    It’s so predictive right?

  • redmymind

    n/t

  • 1rationalmind

    Romney won the CPAC 2012 presidential straw poll by the largest margin since 2000
    Romney won the conservative 2012 Nevada caucus vote
    Romney won the conservative 2012 New Hampshire primary vote
    He won the conservative 2012 Florida primary vote
    As of today Romney has received over 1,100,000 votes for the GOP presidential nomination, hundreds of thousands more then Gingrich, Santorum or Paul.

    OK Red Staters, I get it, you guy’s don’t like Mitt Romney you may even hate him, but you will sooner if not later have to admitted (even if it is only to yourself) that Romney is connecting with conservatives.

  • aleena

    I don’t think Mitt Romney is connecting with most conservatives, and I don’t think he ever will. As governor of Massachusetts, he did too many things that a real conservative would not have done.

  • wwasright

    n/t

  • wwasright

    if he wins the nomination, Obama will tear into him like nothing we’ve seen. He has to go!

  • jamesm

    I have just created a post on this topic

  • colleenlass

    I attended CPAC.
    Romney won the straw poll, which was attended by the most Conservative of peoples.

    The attack on the word ‘severely’ , is that the best all of you can do?
    The fact is, of all who made the effort to vote in the poll, the most passionate….the majority went for Mitt.

    Give him his due. Sore losers are never honorable.

  • davesinsanantonio

    get a real conservative as his VP running mate.

    Because as I look at him he is a man with one foot in the grave and the other one on a banana peel!

    In today’s television culture, I really cannot see a guy that looks like him getting elected. Understand, that is an indictment of the voting sheep rather than of Paul himself. In today’s culture I don’t think Lincoln himself could get elected.

  • kenchely

    It’s Merriam-Webster, not Miriam. That’s a good Massachusetts company, located in Springfield.

  • davesinsanantonio

    Lies.

    Damned lies.

    And, statistics!

    New Hampshire is not conservative

    Nevada was a packed house

    Florida is not conservative.

    But, don’t let facts interfere with your belief system that “Romney is connecting with conservatives”.

    And, while you may think Romney is connecting with conservatives, conservatives know they are not connecting with Romney, and that is all the difference needed!

    But, enjoy your fantasy while it lasts. Midnight is fast approaching and then the coach and four will turn back into a pumpkin. And there really are no glass slippers to fit Mittens’ foot.

  • colleenlass

    Low blow.
    Desperate blow.
    This why we are likely to lose the upcoming election.
    Keep posting and then call yourself a patriot.

    Did you spend the money to attend CPAC…since you know it all?
    I somehow doubt it.
    Romney pays off no one. Stick to truths.

  • josephine

    All weekend I have been visualizing the late 1800′s and specifically the severe “head guy” in those orphanages in England. Remember him.Tall and skinny,wearing black and carrying a stick. Was he a severe republican conservative. Again, if you don’t have it, it’s better not to try to fake it. Romney is not conservative. He doesn’t understand patriotism,he is not conservative. I bet he’ll even have those new florescent bulbs put in the Oval Office. He’s all numbers and his numbers didn’t do well for Mass. NO ONE IS TALKING ABOUT HIS RECORD IN MASS.
    As for Santorum, I have always thought he was a little fascist in his personality. The result of trying to be what he’s not.
    As for Newt Gingrich, I wish he had not gone quite so negative on the powers. Can’t say I blame him,though. Who was at CPAC? Must have been blind and deaf. Or Democrats. #withnewt

  • colleenlass

    PLEASE….!

    So you think only the south. SC.KY, TN, TX are the only ones who are TRUE Conservatives?

    Don’t think so!
    Please…do get over that you lost the Civil War. This does grow tiresome.
    Although the British have yet to get over the Revolutionary War.
    I guess your ego’s have a ways to go yet.

    It is all about Obama and all his buddies, they are the enemy….start thinking straight.

  • libadvsor

    Cannot understand. Here we have a true conservative staring in the face of Republicans, Tea Party and independents and yet folks do not see Ron Paul. They seem afraid of a man whose statements are consistent for decades, He does not back down, What is the matter with you conservatives?

  • btpull

    This government intervention into the basic employer-employee free market for wages and salary automatically disqualifies him as a conservative.

  • colleenlass

    Thank you!

    What you have written is true.
    Bravo and keep posting.
    Yes..you do have a rational mind.

  • snappy101

    And what happens if Romney has a liberal House and Senate? Will he appease them like he appeased the liberals in Massachusetts? You know, will his positions “evolve” again?

  • colleenlass

    You are the second one on here that sees things clearly.
    You are also absolutely right.

    Keep posting please….it is so rare on here to hear ‘COMMON SENSE’ and not bias , prejudice rhetoric.

    YOU..are a patriot!

  • frebird

    A friend of mine in AZ sent this over to me and I’m confused this is happening in AZ of all places. Anyone know anything about it?

    http://www.azcentral.com/news/politics/articles/2012/02/08/20120208arizona-bill-force-colorado-city-police-disband.html

  • elizaliza

    ssssst Ron Paul is a dirty word around here. But even, or especially Ron Paul would bomb Iran in a jiffy if he got credible information that it was necessary. Do you really think he wouldn’t? Odd.

    That one’s easy. Everyone hates Iran, China and Russia don’t care much.

    The hard one would be to attack Pakistan or other “friends” when they worked against us. Would McCain have done that? Hmmmm

  • Juggernaut

    by someone right of him. We have authentic conservatives running who supported left leaning bills and so forth but they were never for abortion nor gun control nor admitted to being a lefty.

    Don’t some of you at least wonder if Romney was planted by the left to give them a winner if Obama loses? Nah, he just doesn’t like the success of Reagan, that’s all.

  • elizaliza

    I get what Twain meant, but I really hate hate hate hate it when people say that. You CAN NOT LIE with statistics unless you LIE or MISREPRESENT something else AS WELL.

    Statistics themselves are neutral, but like anything they can be abused.

  • liveforadrenaline

    But I simply can’t understand the following:

    1) Why Romney was even invited to CPac. He has never done a single thing for conservatives. Ever.

    2) Why his name was included in the straw poll.

    3) Why CPac has been infiltrated by formerly conservative pundits/politicos who are shilling for Romney.

    It is one thing to advocate for him as the most electable candidate, but it is a lie and deception to put him in the camp of conservatives, as he is CLEARLY a progressive.

  • elizaliza

    … is so odd. Then again, I kinda agree that Romney is not a true conservative, I wonder if the majority is indeed of the same mind.
    Oh well, I guess it prepares who ever even better for the GenPop

  • elizaliza

    ORLY? he’s like the Repub Biden? At least Rick is a millionaire, Biden still just brings home the odd three, fourhundredthousand dollars per year. He’s the poorest Senator we’ve ever had.

  • elizaliza

    Santorum, you see “fascist behavior”??? AND you’re still #withnewt ???
    Bold words indeed

  • paco12348

    I said it before and I’ll say it again. The Rep. Establishment has lost us the election treating us like the Dems treat their plantation voters. They pushed Romney on us like they did McCAin. They scared the people by saying Romney was the only one electable and now people are afraid to vote for the one they want so they just don’t show up. Rove, Dole and many others don’t want their playhouse messed up. It’s “get rid of Obama for us but leave our playhouse alone”. Gingrich was sliced up and burned to a crisp. He’s the only one the Establishment fears because he knows what needs to be changed. Romney is safe. They are spoon feeding him conservatism for “electability” trying to make him more palatable to the people. If we lose this election it should be blamed on the Rep. Establishment but they are already gearing up to blame “we, the people” with their “not turning out” chatter.
    I still wish we could elect Palin, but, if not Palin, then Gingrich. He will clean out both nests of professional politicians and give the government back to the people.

  • Creedo

    >He?s the only one the Establishment fears because he knows what needs to be changed.

    This is nonsense. You’re telling me the establishment doesn’t fear Santorum? Those of us who have been following Santorum know this to be false. They definitely fear him. And for that matter, they clearly fear Paul (well, who doesn’t). This idea that Gingrich is the only anti-establishment candidate is silly and beneath us all. He made his own bed, and HE is the one who has to lay in it. I’m sure not going to feel despondent about a serial adulterer having ruined his chances for public office thanks to a career of erratic actions. It’s not “the establishment” that ruined Gingrich’s chances. That is wholly owned by the man himself.

  • Creedo

    “The Establishment” has nothing to do with why I don’t trust Gingrich. Gingrich’s own history is what repulses me. It’s fine with me if you’re willing to cross the rope bridge to trust him. But what we know about Gingrish is that he’ll cut that bridge out from underneath you when it becomes politically convenient for him to do so.

  • dennis1111

    The reason we fight is that we still think there is something good worth saving in this world.

  • dennis1111

    I was for Mitt in 08. I like Santorum. But, now we have a real conservative with excellent credentials and superlative skills.
    Newt has been beaten on by the press since he had the huevos to balance the budget as Speaker. He hasn’t changed. He still wants a balanced budget and a weak government that actually governs in the voice of the Nation. He is still the butt of constant carping. Why do we conservatives listen? Why would we support a lesser person with a more timid, weaker background? Is it a kind of supine reverece for the independent voter in the middle of the road?

    I don’t get it. I admire Newt and have read his works. He is constant, conservative and skilled. Why is this blog chatting on the mediocre substitutes as if they were the only choices? I don’t get it.
    Fred got it right. We must draw in the undecided and wavering with the power of our vision for this country and it’s Constitutional rule of law. Best, dlc

  • dennis1111

    Mr. Paul has secured office as a Republican for a long time. He is excellent on money and the need for a strong Constitution. However I have discovered that Libertarians dispise Republicans.

    Libertarians bad-mouth most every non-Libertarian non-Progressive politician constantly. I have a growing suspicion that Libertarians tend toward anarchy. No government is their goal. The Constitution provides that securing the common defense is the feds primary function. Mr. Paul would Pollyanna like withdraw our world presence and hope all of those people who really do hate our liberties (I have read and studied the Koran and Sharia) and really do want to convert all of us to Islam and really are fully prepared to practice the Koranic injunction to the sword, will play nice and leave us be. They never have-historically. They represent a parasitic theology whose sole goal was and is the conquest and consumption of the world which is not Islamic.

    So, what is a Libertarian? Who is Ron Paul-really? Will he vote for the winner of our primaries or would he prefer Obama to Newt or Mitt or Rick? will Libertarians secure another 4 for Obama by thumbing their collective nose at the GOP? a definitive answer on these questions would assuage our fears that the answers are unacceptable to conservatives. I don’t think Paul is conservative. He is good on money but that is a small part of our national concerns.
    I would like to see a declaration by the Libertarian groups which includes Rand and Ron. It shopuld say: We support the goals of conservative America and we will not further Obama’s agenda by siding with him against the well being of America. I doubt that will be forthcoming. That is the answer to your question.

  • liveforadrenaline

    Romney, who never built a conservative bridge. His bridges always led to the Progressives.

    Paul, who has no idea on how to build a bridge, because he has been in the House for decades and hasn’t even become a Committee Chairman, which is the first step to power.

    And Santorum, who has built a half a bridge consisting of one rope, that of social conservatism, while pretty much using a piece of sewing thread to construct the fiscal side of the rope.

    Gingrich’s rope bridge has been completely built. Yes, it has been burned by fire on numerous occasions, but at least it was built.

  • ihateliberals

    will fall for anything. A person should not have to tell me how conservative they are I should be able to tell by their actions and deeds. It is like a joke about a Speaker I read in Reader’s Digest many years ago: “The more he spoke about his honesty the faster we counted the Silverware”. I think this applies to Romney’s speech.

  • jamesm

    That is what is needed. Shiny, bright and real. Two out of three ain’t bad. Definetely has to be real silver. That]a what is missing in his candidacy.

  • Creedo

    At least I’d know what to expect from Paul.

  • WillWong

    after WW1.

  • demsaresatanic

    about Santorum’s record as you know about forgiveness if you think the establishment fears anything about Santorum besides his hardcore social issues. His spending record is as establishment as you can get. Your petty refusal to forgive Newt’s sin, if enough others are equally petty, will give us four more years of Obama.

  • Creedo

    This is the problem with the entire Newt brigade. You guys are infected with Newt’s gradiosity in the say way Paul supporters are infected with delusion. In fact, I’d say it’s worse. Newt made it to the speakership, and now he thinks he’s Obiwan Kenobi. In reality what he is, is a pervy guy who takes the oaths he makes in life with a grain of salt.

    IT was fun for awhile when Newt was propped up by a billionaire who didn’t like Romney, but the writing is on the wall. This is a two man race, and those two men are Romney and Rick.

    Newt and Paul are on the outside looking in.

  • Creedo

    Sorry, I don’t believe in this idea that Newt has changed. If that means I’m unforgiving, then so be it. I think we’ve gotten some fine glimpses of the “real” Newt in this campaign. Newt is in it for himself. I see Newt and Bill Clinton cut from the same cloth, and see absolutely no reason to believe otherwise.

  • WillWong

    Churchillian than Santorum!

  • Creedo

    …it just turns out that “conservative” and “principled” aren’t among those things.

  • WillWong

    is not conservative?

  • Creedo

    nt

  • demsaresatanic

    can you be specific about what the “real” Newt is. More personal attacks, no doubt.

    And calling a politician a “political creature,” that is original.

  • WillWong

    Just like Churchill….so during normal peace time, their respective countries had no need for them.

    But America is at a cross road, a time like no other…either we continue the road to perdition or a 180 turnaround and only a guy like Newt has the wherwithals to do that. Nothing in Romney’s or Santorum’s DNA shows they are capable of turning this mighty ship around. These two guys can only manage the decay.

    I can safely say that once Newt had done his job, he might jolly well be thrown out again after one term but by God, we need the man for the job!

  • Creedo

    …but at least Paul has a plan to cut a trillion dollars in one year. Newt’s only articulated plan so far as I can tell is to elect him.

  • APA Guy

    What is it about our side that we need to focus on what doesn’t matter instead of what does?

    Yes, we oppose gay marriage…and abortion…and a host of other liberal social initiatives.

    But the issue of the 2012 election sill be THE ECONOMY…jobs…the weak dollar…high oil and gas prices. Who was House Speaker the last time we beat down these issues?

    Newt can whip Obama twelve ways from Sunday…on issues…on the debate dais…all Obama will have are personal attacks, which don’t work on a candidate with a proven record of success solving problems that are important to the country.

  • WillWong

    Go check out www.Newt.org and read his 21st century contract with America. His is the most complete and detailed plan of anyone from either party!

  • lineholder

    I’m a Christian, a female, and a So-Con. By the context of conventional wisdom, I should be a Santorum supporter, right? I’m not. I think Newt is the man for the job at hand.

    I used to work in manufacturing as a supervisor. We had several classical engineers with 4-year+ degrees and one engineer who had worked for years as a mechanic while striving to get his engineering degree. If a machine went down and we were hard-pressed under a deadline, I’d go to the latter of the group in a heartbeat. Why? Because when push came to shove, he’d find a way to get us up and running again ASAP.

    He was absolutely brilliant in the context of engineering theory and could hold his own against the other engineers from this viewpoint every day of the week and a thousand times over on Sundays. Really rough around the edges. Foul-mouthed. Low tolerance for BS. Most people didn’t like working with him at all. But he was by far the most practical of the bunch, and if getting us running again required something bold, that’s what we got. If he had to bypass SOP to succeed, he wasn’t afraid of taking the heat for that choice.

    Desperate times can call for desperate measures. The man got us through our share of desperate times. That’s how I see Newt.

  • liveforadrenaline

    But I’m happy to hop on that train, if need be.

    But I’ve said it before… there are 4 things important to me in candidates:

    1) Do they have the platform I like?

    2) Do they have true leadership capabilities?

    3) Have they accomplished anything with these leadership capabilities?

    4) Are they electable?

    Santorum and Gingrich have the only platform I like. Ron Paul’s thinly veiled Libertarianism is not Republican.

    Romney and Gingrich have excellent leadership capabilities.

    Gingrich is the only candidate with any accomplishments for conservatives.

    Far too many people who I don’t respect said that Romney was the only one electable. That is NOT the case.

  • WillWong

    Awesome!

  • WillWong

    NT

  • bigbird101

    When I first heart this I said ‘WHOA” what was he thinking? I have had nightmares thinking about him being elected, now I’m even more on edge. NOW I know that HE DOESN’T GET IT!

    NEWT PLEASE RISE UP ONE MORE TIME!!!!