Writing this. Guess we conservatives do not have the market cornered on good morals.

May have to check it out next year.

-They are using condoms
-Aren’t raping people
-Aren’t sleeping in tents outside
-They go back home and get Jobs (eventually)

It could be worse. LOL

But it could be better too. Well Said Erick. “GTHU”

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…to buy coffee Sat morning at the Marriott, a student in line behind me was asking how much everything was at the coffee stand, obviously strapped for cash. I turned around and told him I would pay as I was proud he was there. We engaged in a great discussion about the candidates and the future of the United States. He was very grateful and considerate.

for a bunch of college kids, which only encourages a ‘spring break’ attitude.
Thank you for speaking up Eric.

though conventions do bring out the party animal in some. Proves some aren’t committed towards anything more than a self serving vacation which is how some see DC politics and how staffers act most days. Eddie Murphy called DC “the promised land”. Sounds like CPAC was had a few distinguished gentlemen and ladies.

In line at the CVS.

Without getting into details, the level of debauchery I observed at the national convention was enough to make me quit politics of any sort until I was well out of college. I’m saddened to see this sort of thing still occurs.

As the mother of a young man in college, I can’t say I blame the young men for at least looking (or maybe leer is the more appropriate word) based on the lewd way some young women dress, act and talk these days. Apparently, there are more than a few moms and dads who don’t care how their daughters dress. They’re the same ones who complain when little Johnnie looks at little Susie in an inappropriate way.

I’ll leave it at that with my thanks to Erick for the diary.

for the straw poll and to cheer every time he said severe conservative?

Unless one leads by example, all the clever arguments in the world would simply amount to idle chatter. The duality between what one says and what one actually does is at the heart of all corruption.

The fall of Adam had three effects:

1. It clouded our intellect and our ability to reason with clarity at all times.

2. It weakened our will to pursue the good (God’s will).

3. It set our passions to rebel against our intellect and will.

We have since needed God’s truth (Divine Revelation, self-evident moral principles) to guide our intellect, which would in turn exercise its authority over our unruly passions.

Given all this, what kind of “principled” leadership can be truly expected of those one day who so readily abdicate to their passions today?

As weak and erring humans, none of us are exempt from the great temptations life throws at us. Even the just man, as the Good Book says, falls seven times, only to pick himself back up again each time.

The point is not that we humans fail and fail miserably at times, despite the best of our intentions. It’s that we not get trapped in a state of self-satisfaction, thinking that there can be a comfortable duality in our lives as long as we delude ourselves as being principled conservatives.

Our actions will speak louder than our words . . . or the badges or the credentials we proudly flash before the world. The world will see us for who we really are one day, if not today.

You can’t have it both ways.

Unfortunately, college (and early professional) republicans are typically products of the fraternity culture that has got out of hand with respect to absolute moral debauchery.

Stephen Glass was unfortunately accurate; cocaine and prostitutes are not uncommon.

The worst part is that amongst young university educated adults this has become something of a cliche which only further pushes America’s youth towards the left.

“That is part of life on the college circuit. Young men, regardless of political persuasion or ideology, are intent on having sex, being boys, getting drunk — doing what young men in college often do. All to often there are also a few young ladies willing to shame their parents if their parents only knew.”

Double standard much?

With four kids ages 23-33, I have long been in the crucible of the social ‘situation’ in which young people find themselves. Remember who has been educating them, entertaining them, and otherwise shaping their world.

Be thankful any young people are there. Let’s hope we rub off on them.

Every year, he gets out the needle-nose pliers, takes the cover off the thermostat in his classroom, and bends it a little, so the displayed temperature is 5 degrees warmer than the actual temperature.

He finds that, a few weeks into the school year, the girls start to dress more .. appropriately .. for his classes.

Perhaps we could encourage the CPAC venues to cool things off .. literally!

Mew

This year’s CPAC was a huge change from last year’s Libertarian Fest. The absence of Ron Paul and his groupies, as well as the decision to ban GOPROUD as an official sponsor were important changes. Heritage and other conservative groups were back. There were also some very conservative evangelical speakers on the agenda including Michelle Dugger and Kirk Cameron. Al Cardenas put the “C” back in CPAC. My son, a conservative Evangelical college student said after last year’s CPAC, “This is not a “conservative” conference.” He felt much more at home this year – that his values were better represented.

I think that most people who attended this year didn’t know going in that the changes had been made. I wonder to what extent that will have an affect on next year’s event? Will the party set be less likely to attend next year because of the general conservative bent thisyear? Was the behavior Erick witnessed in some part a result of the previous years’ lurch to the more moderate, libertine side of the GOP? Time will tell, I guess, but I think it doesn’t hurt that CPAC is telegraphing that it is a severely conservative convention rather than a libertarian free-for-all.

so what do you really expect, Erick?

*tweak*

Conservative women are so hot!!

But they should grow up! Personal responsibility demands it!

Conservative women are so hot…

But they should grow up…personal responsibility is expected from every Conservative and being honorable and chivalrous separates us from the pack! Set a good example, behave like a gentlemen and have fun!

if they “straw polled” for Romney.

Other than promises no one has any proof that Romney IS a conservative.

Santorum (who would be my 2nd choice after Gingrich) may have a point. Mitt Romney is an insatiable narcissist and a bored millionaire, who wants to fulfill his father’s “dream” to become a Rockefeller Republican president.

At this time, I hope that both Romney and Santorum’s “wins”, being “non-binding” will allow for the “best” candidate to ultimately win and repeat his success of 1994 to lead that nation back to the right (not “ultra right”) where it belongs. That man was, is and always will be Newt Gingrich.

I think one of the problems here is that there’s more than one ‘camp’ in this conservative movement. On the one hand, you have the conservatives who are probably more “old-school”, where conservatism means more than balancing the budget, and who are generally more socially conservative. On the other, you have the more ‘libertarian’ side, which probably includes more younger people, where the idea is that social/moral issues don’t matter (at least as much). I think this is why there’s so much of a howl about Santorum surging in the polls, because their ideal candidate would not speak a word about social issues or morality. I think separating these two groups may be part of the Obama strategy here; that if they can get a lot of attention to Santorum and social issues, you’ll end up with a lot of “conservatives” who won’t vote for him because they want the more libertarian candidate.

These people of whom you write are beautifully illustrative of many current ‘conservatives’. They want the advantages of a moral society without the self-discipline and rules that make it work. It is also illustrative of a society that won’t grow up.

A few mornings ago, I was waiting for some business and I watched a few minutes of an old show I watched when I was a kid, ‘buffy the vampire slayer’. The part I caught portrayed the high school kids (the main characters) walking into a party of adults who were supposed to be acting like teens. They were possessed.

The way they were acting is the way ‘adults’ really act now.

Shameful.

As my baby brother, a teen who is very mature said recently, ‘there is no adulthood left.’

Paul had spoke it would have been blamed on his people. lol

Hey mom look what I got at the CPAC convention!
Yeah I know there were a lot of vendors handing out other stuff like pens and post it notes but guess what I picked up!

I want credit for coining this phrase.

I dunno Erick, I attended CPAC as well and did not really see what you saw. In fact I saw a lot of very well mannered, energetic and intelligent youngsters who I would be proud to call fellow conservatives.

I am moved to respond to the brief on behavior at CPAC. That the writer EE is critical and moved to comment means the libertine or boorish and predatory behavior of self identified conservatives only grows. Such behavior brings us all down.

I have seen on blogs behavior that I once thought liberals owned. Language sets our mind and its frame. If our speech is in the gutter so are our actions. I stopped cussing in colleges years ago when I realized how my use of certain words affected my overall worldview and behavior.

At a conference some let loose too many inhibitions apparently even at CPAC. I regret CPAC serves as a site for hook ups and pick ups. I am indignant!

For change a remedy must involve the many as well as the few. Manners arer a two way street. It takes two to tango. All attendees should behave joyfully with respect and modesty and censure those who do not.

We are our brothers keeper.

they were all drunk.

I was wondering how a liberal candidate received a victory from people who are supposed to be conservative.

Seriously, this demeans CPAC and I think it’s lost it’s relevance.

IT IS THESE YOUNG PEOPLE WHO ARE INFLUENCING THE POLLS TAKEN AT CPAC-WHICH INFLUENCES THE TV AUDIENCE.
WHICH INFLUENCES THE ELECTION. NO WONDER THE RESULTS WERE LIKE THEY WERE.
I wasn’t there. But, I am sure Erick is reporting correctly. The world in which these young people have grown up in is mostly secular, liberal, and way off base with reality.
They may be fiscal conservatives, but they lack the class they need to be True Conservatives. It is really a shame.

by old Native American and Jewish standards,and my mama said, how you behave when no is looking is how you really are, sad is it not? I still recall that teaching when I walk thru my home alone and smile. would it not be nice if somehow we could instill that into our young ones, Yes I am old and old fashion, but honor is still honor, and sadly the GOP does not always walk that path, how do we teach our next generation? when I turn off my T.V when many programs come on because of dishonor that I see, I told my children that I do not eat trash neither do I feed it to my mind.

I thought we were for personal responsibility? Do we really need to preach morals as political bloggers, too?

I mean, I see the point of comporting one’s self with respect and decorum, but I just feel like this post of Erick’s is going to get quoted and maligned in a zillion different ways that essentially boils down to:

“Conservatives want to control your life too! But at least we Lefties let you get to have sex when you want it!!” or “Lefties=guilt free sex! Righties = Not only act like, but dress like a nun!”

These ‘Kids’ aren’t holding out their hands for Food Stamps.

Nope, they’re exopecting Free Drinks.

But entitlement is entitlement. They expect their lives to be a party without responsibility.

The Truth is going to hurt.

is not the same as young men using condoms. Sometimes they just have high expectations! While I am sure it happens occasionally, I am guessing CPAC is not the place for one night hookups.

I am encouraged that you noticed and more that you commented about it. Virtue is a value worth conserving. Chivalry is another value worth conserving. Chastity is not only a value worth conserving it is healthy, safe and something you will want to think about when you have children.

Political conservatism without a soul, an appreciation for virtue and respect is not going to improve anything. It will not ‘conserve’ anything either.

can be also blamed on lack of good examples. I have attended a conservative Mennonite church here twice tho not a Mennonite, and I have to say, they walk the talk and being near their goodness is inspiring. We don’t have enough people, CHristian or otherwise, exhibiting moral behavior and high minded talk/actions. We get numbed by the slang the profanity the dumbed down morals and forget there is something higher to aspire to. Spending a day in church with the Mennonites and fellowship afterwards was something that has affected me deeply, hopefully to the good.

What did you expect? Conservative women are HOT!!! I would imagine it’s tough not to start thinking like a Kennedy or Clinton when you’re in the same room with a large group of women who look like S.E. Cupp!!!

But seriously, You’re right Erick. It has become a HUGE problem, the way our entire society is being sexualized. I have a 9 yr old daughter, and it seems like every month another one of her “favorite celebrities” is having to be banned from my house. A couple of years at Disney, and then it’s on to the cesspool of Hollyweird. The loss of Hannah Montana was devastating around here!