« BACK  |  PRINT

RS

EDITOR OF REDSTATE

Three Percent

When you have a candidate few people really like, whose support is a mile wide and an inch deep, whose raison d’etre (a 4am fancy word) is fixing an economy that is fixing itself without him, and who only wins his actual, factual home state by three percentage points against a guy no one took seriously only two months ago, there really is little reason for independent voters in the general election to choose him if the economy keeps improving.

Seriously, putting it bluntly, conservatives may not like Barack Obama, but most other people do. And when faced with a guy you like and a guy you don’t like who says he can fix an economy that no longer needs fixing, you’re going to go with the guy you like.

If Republicans in Washington are not panicked and trying desperately to pull Bobby Jindal in the race tomorrow, or someone like him, the party leaders must have a death wish.Mitt Romney continues to run an uninspiring campaign only able to win by massively outspending his opponents to tell voters how much worse the other guys are. That may work in the primary, but it will not work in a general election where the President of the United States won’t be outspent 5 to 1.

Three percentage points. In his home state. In his wife’s home state. In the state his father served as Governor. Three percentage points against a guy few took seriously two months ago and who just three weeks ago no one expected to give Romney a run for his money in Romney’s home state.

And this is our nominee — a guy who can only win in states with a home state advantage, New Englanders and New England transplants, and Mormoms. There are a lot more outside those categories than inside them and that is shaping up to cause him heartburn on Super Tuesday. And let me tell you what else is going to happen: Democrats sense such a strong vulnerability now and sniff a chance of a Santorum nomination, they aren’t going to wait for the general election to start dumping oppo research on Romney. Get ready Romney supporters, this is just the opening salvo.

But I suspect he will be the nominee. At least we can be rid of him and, hopefully, his most ardent cheerleaders on November 7th when what the rest of us know will happen unless an economic catastrophe happens.

Hello? Bobby Jindal? You paying attention?

Get Alerts

COMMENTS

  • http://www.doctor-bob.biz rsklaroff

    …that permeates punditry.

    Shifting 1-1/2% of the vote yields an entirely contrasting narrative, one that cites Romney’s multiple “rich-man”-themed quotes [over noting Santorum's "Evangelese"].

    Is it not possible that The Newt gets a 14th-look?

  • texasref

    Romney received 356,191 votes.
    Santorum received 331,333 votes.
    865,405 votes were cast in the Republican primary.

    356,191/865,405=41.158879%
    331,333/865,405=38.286467%

    This is a marginal difference of only 2.87%

    These figures were obtained from the Michigan’s Secretary of State at http://miboecfr.nictusa.com/election/results/12PPR/01000000.html

    So much for Mr. Inevitable.

    Excellent article, Erick, as Jindal would be much better than Romney or Santorum. However, he would still be 2nd best to Gingrich.

  • texasref

    and the corrolary to the fact that Romney can’t even win with a 3-point margin is that Santorum just lost 2 states in which he was the Romney alternative.

    It’s time to give Newt a week in the sun and let him make the case to be the Romney alternative across the South and beyond!

    If Newt implodes, the Jindal argument makes sense. Otherwise, no.

    Everyone needs to keep their powder dry until Super Tuesday.

  • texasref

    Just had to spam that one last time. It’s so pitiful. OK I’m going to bed now.

  • http://www.timothy-bladel.com/ center77

    and I think if he jumped in, he could pull it off. I’m sure Romney would try to destroy him, because if he has worried about wrecking the party yet, his ego would be to large to put country first now.

  • http://www.timothy-bladel.com/ center77

    there is just nothing in Jindals record that would inhibit him in the way Newts record does. I like Newt best out of bad options. But I’d feel excited again over what Jindal could bring.

  • http://www.timothy-bladel.com/ center77

    Santorum held up much better than Newt did, Jindal would run away with the rest, and garner a huge amount of support from pro Romney and anti-Romney base. The electorate is hoping for something other than we have now. Democrats don’t want Jindal to run, it would ruin their plan.

  • formotioncreative

    Erickson provided in the sixth paragraph? …”this is just the opening salvo.”

    He’s giving you a crystal clear glimpse into what’s to come from the left and he’s telling you the dems aren’t going to wait any longer to begin

    “they aren?t going to wait for the general election to start dumping oppo research on Romney. Get ready Romney supporters, this is just the opening salvo.”

    Thank you Erick. You’re the only conservative journalist to finally step up to do what is only the right thing to do and discuss the ultimate consequence to a Romney nomination. This is exactly why the post-debate panelists (CNN, NBC) in the liberal media go soft on Romney, declaring him the winner of the debate even when he’s not. They know what’s in the arsenal and they can’t wait any longer to ramp it up.

  • shorty

    looks to me that we the people didn’t support/back Rick Perry enough. Everyone may disagree with me but [ although it ain't gonna happen ] I’d love it if he decided to jump back in this MESS!!

    I’d support B.three Jindal over the other 3, but we should have supported Perry when we had the chance.

    This is just my humble opinion of course…..

  • http://www.doctor-bob.biz rsklaroff

    …when Perry excited his Posse on 1/2/2012, remember?

    Did not Perry transfer his enthusiasm to The Newt?

    Does Jindal [a leader of the GOP farm-team for 2020] have an organization that could propel him [unvetted] in 2012?

    Notwithstanding regrets about Rick/Anita’s decision, are we not left with tag-team wrestling [Mitt/Paul vs. Newtorum] as representing the struggle for the heart of the Republican Party?

    Is there any other entity that could attract Evangelicals, TEA {Taxed Enough Already} Party Activists, and Constitutional Conservatives?

    *

    Santorum has peaked, having tasted what I anticipated when proposing [in my diary] a “Lincoln-Douglas”-style debate/nomination collaboration, with the man with the greater number of delegates running for POTUS and the other being the Veep-designee.

    “Secondary Gain” would be achieved from recognition that any reputation for egotism/arrogance would be “behaviorally” suppressed by each having prospectively announced fealty to the judgment of the voters…through June.

    Announcing this ticket ASAP would allow for healing…and for excluding Mitt…so that the electorate could learn how to focus against all-things-BHO.

  • http://www.doctor-bob.biz rsklaroff

    ..but we have to respect the prayerful decision of Anita/Rick.

    Rick is campaigning heavily for The Newt and, although betrayed by the Evangelicals when they met in Texas, can help to “soften” Santorum’s stridency [assuming he listens to the Michigan-message] by–if nothing else–exuding the type of humility that springs from self-confidence, inner-ethics, and quiet-achievement.

    Instant-nostalgia won’t help to assemble the non-Mitt coalition which can defeat BHO.

  • renl57

    Erick Erickson omitted the other two sides to this issue:

    “When faced with a guy you like, and a guy you *definitely* don?t like who has been a serial adulterer and a Washington insider all of his adult life with zero executive experience, you’re going to go with the guy you like.”

    “When faced with a guy who has actually said that your enjoying sex for its own sake while you’re on birth control is abnormal and who promises to lecture you about it as President, you as a woman are going to go with the other guy no matter what.”

    I don’t have to tell you who those two candidates are.

    The truth of the matter is that if the economy is in decent shape by November and Osama bin Laden is still dead, voters are going to say “Obama isn’t doing all that badly, let him continue.” It won’t matter whom the Republicans nominate: Any hero you want, Perry, Jindal, Christie, Daniels.

    When an incumbent runs for re-election, it’s always his race to lose.

  • reeves

    Erickson is way off base backing unconstitutional candidates such as Santorum. America’s issue is economics, not religion. The prime issue is returning the country to the people by getting government out of the (economic) picture, not bringing government into the (religious) picture. Religion and morality is the peoples free choice, not a part of the government’s business. We may not like a certain candidate personally, but if he/she can get America back on track, and get government out of our lives per our (once) sacred Constitution, then that is the way to go. This isn’t a popularity contest, nor whom we might invite to dinner, but an attempt to restore to the people a nation of freedom from government guided and controlled by the Constitution.

  • mikelindell2

    He blew a double digit lead just a couple of weeks ago to Romney in MI. Newt is the only candidate who has faced down the Romney money machine in a highly contested state (SC) and won. Santorum can’t help himself from attacking contraception, the separation of church and state, and college. He is not a fiscal conservative of any kind. The longer he stays in the more damage is done to the party. Santorum is what liberals want people to think of conservative as being. Time to rally around the only small government conservative in this race, the only one to defeat Romney’s money, and the one with the only proven record and best plans going forward.

    NEWT COMEBACK STARTS NOW

  • reeves

    Finally, someone who knows what a presidential election is all about. We don’t vote for our favorite rock star; we vote for that candidate who, hopefullty, will lead the country back to its former prosperity and full emoployment. There shouild be a maturity test at the polls before anyone is allowed to vote.

  • mikelindell2

    He’s gaining a big lead in Georgia (13 points at last check) and is the only one who can face down Romney’s attacks and win. Santorum flew under the radar in Iowa, not sustaining any attacks, and squeaked out a meaningless victory. Recently, he campaigned heavily in three states that were uncontested and did not give any delegates. Now, he faced a meager money disparity in MI and dropped almost 20 points in 2 weeks. He is an undisciplined, unelectable, big government/big spending/big labor candidate who, for the good of the party, we can only hope plummets from here on out. Maybe he can try running for Senate again, I’m sure his new buddy Michael Moore would help him out there.

    Newt-Best record, Best Proposals, Most Articulate, Only Proven Conservative.

  • http://www.doctor-bob.biz rsklaroff

    …because The ,Newt does not fit this model:

    ?When faced with a guy you like, and a guy you *definitely* don?t like who has been a serial adulterer and a Washington insider all of his adult life with zero executive experience, you?re going to go with the guy you like.?

    It should be annotated [accordingly] reflecting what Rick Perry [and others] have recognized as a dynamic capacity to forgive…for we are all imperfect [as per his withdrawal-speech]:

    ?When faced with a guy you like [although dissatisfaction with his policies...noting that Gallup has approval down to 43%...can damage perceptions of a JFK-like family-image], and a guy you *definitely* don?t like [but who doesn't generate visceral hatred, just like Clinton didn't] who has been a serial adulterer [who has repented, etc., demonstrating a stable-relationship of two-decades' duration] and a Washington insider [who knows the ropes and, specifically how to function effectively in D.C.] all of his adult life [including historic leadership of the house] with zero executive experience [other than running advocacy/educational entities themed on "solutions"], you?re going to go with the guy you like [and who will reflect the principles you are reminded are inherently American].?

    I don?t have to tell you who THIS CANDIDATE IS.

  • salemst

    Mitt Romney is by far our best and most conservative electable candidate. it isn’t even close. I’m a self-employed 31 year Executive Recruiter for Corporate America. Private sector middle and upper middle class jobs are not being created. Most everyone I know in the private sector is getting killed with income a fraction of what it once was including doctors, business employees, self-employed, etc.. Want a great job? Work for the Federal Government.

    We have an immoral, ethically challenged, serial adulterer who’s the GOP’s version of Bill Clinton. A guy who’s contradicted himself on every issue. Sat with Pelosi supporting global warming. Supported a federal health insurance individual mandate, called Paul Ryan’s budget “right wing engineering,”and has about ZERO support from those who were with him in Congress as being devoid of leadership capability. The only thing Newt knows about jobs have nothing to do with employment.

    We have a guy championing conservative traditional values, who voted for Sottomayor for a Judgeship. A big government spending Bush “Compassionate Conservative. A “fake” conservative. And walking across the country in a robe, wearing a cross, and carrying a Bible won’t get anyone elected at present time under any circumstances.

    Rally behind Mitt, before he spends all his money fighting candidates who don’t measure up to him

  • http://www.doctor-bob.biz rsklaroff

    …and it reflects anguish over “rewarding” heinous campaign-tactics.

    http://www.newt.org/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/CallToConscience.pdf

    [It is co-written by two distinguished former-Congressmen.]

  • dudette

    no question he was the best. Romney makes me shaky when he says as on Rush he will not say incendiary things to attract the base—we don’t need another neutered candidate like McCain or Dole. It is ridiculous how afraid to take a stand against Obama some of these (Romney) guys are.

  • ragstoriches

    to make such broad generalizations regarding women.

    ?When faced with a guy who has actually said that your enjoying sex for its own sake while you?re on birth control is abnormal and who promises to lecture you about it as President, you as a woman are going to go with the other guy no matter what.?

    As a woman, I most certainly am not going to go with the other guy, no matter what. I am most certainly more in tune with Santorum’s worldview than that of Romney or even Newt, whom I would still prefer over Romney.

    Santorum’s delivery may be muddled at times, but the core message he’s trying to deliver is not only received but welcomed by many women, or at least this one, and I’d dare say a good number of parents who must try to raise children in a society inundated with sexual imagery, focus, and a moral compass that is not just broken, it’s been smashed to hell with the hammer of hedonism against the anvil of liberalism.

    To imply otherwise is to believe that women are, as a group, more interested in sex than morals, ignorant of foreign policy and economics, and generally driven by some unsuppressible desire toward guiltless and consequence-free sex that overrides all other concerns.

    In other words, it’s a chauvinistic view unworthy of debate, especially here.

  • dudette

    needs to show he can tear O a new one.

  • Mark Meed

    This entire article hangs on the premise that the economy is “fixing itself” and therefore won’t be an issue in the general election. Inasmuch as that premise is patently false the argument collapses under its own weight.

    The various contrived, artificial bubbles in the market and the cooked unemployment numbers do not conceal the true underlying economic realities and the ability of government to spin and manipulate itself out of trouble diminishes daily.

    The economic situation will be the ONLY issue in November.

  • http://www.doctor-bob.biz rsklaroff

    …without recapitulating what already is shared-knowledge.

    BEFORE:

    “We have an immoral, ethically challenged, serial adulterer who?s the GOP?s version of Bill Clinton. A guy who?s contradicted himself on every issue. Sat with Pelosi supporting global warming. Supported a federal health insurance individual mandate, called Paul Ryan?s budget ?right wing engineering,?and has about ZERO support from those who were with him in Congress as being devoid of leadership capability. The only thing Newt knows about jobs have nothing to do with employment.”

    AFTER:

    “We have an immoral [recanted], ethically challenged [on trivial charges that didn't survive], serial adulterer [with a high-quality interaction, criticized primarily by judgmental people who fear his capacity to shake-up assumptions] who?s the GOP?s version of Bill Clinton [hardly]. A guy who?s contradicted himself on every issue [while trying to seek common-ground]. Sat with Pelosi supporting global warming [admits gambit failure]. Supported a federal health insurance individual mandate [reversed, unlike Mitt], called Paul Ryan?s budget ?right wing engineering? [reversed, and integrated its principles] and has about ZERO support from those who were with him in Congress as being devoid of leadership capability [note letter from Walker/Watts, hyperlinked elsewhere on this page]. The only thing Newt knows about jobs have nothing to do with employment [if this is vulgar, it's unworthy of critique].”

    I spoke again with another former-colleague of The Newt [1994-1998] who again confirmed his capacity to distill complexities.

    This campaign-season has provided all candidates an opportunity to err, and it’s time to determine–cogently–the individual who can best unite the party. Is it Mitt, who continues to refuse to reach-out to the activists [Evangelicals, TPM-grassroots, Constitutional Conservatives]? Or is it The Newt, who is widely-recognized as a potent debate-rival for BHO [and who has a nimble/fact-filled brain]?

    BTW, take a snapshot of current policies, and ask yourself which of these three candidates NOW reflects the mainstream-GOP [and which hasn't handed the D's a rich-kid narrative, speckled with admitted gaffes]….

  • http://www.neoavatara.com/blog neoavatara

    Look, if you believe the economy is booming, then we are doomed no matter who is running for President. If you believe the MSM meme that ‘we are creating jobs!’ then this election is over.

    I simply don’t see it. Yes, the economy is marginally better. But the CBO guesses unemployment in November will be HIGHER than today. That is not a recovery to be proud of.

    People need to take a deep breath, and look at the reality. Obama is still a weak candidate. All but one outlying poll shows Obama at about 45%…not great for an incumbent. There is an opportunity to sell our nominee as the alternative.

  • freedom555

    “Seriously, putting it bluntly, conservatives may not like Barack Obama, but most other people do. And when faced with a guy you like and a guy you don?t like who says he can fix an economy that no longer needs fixing, you?re going to go with the guy you like.”

    And despite the fears of Obamatards, the ‘Elite’ won’t be orchestrating an economic collapse before the election….to boost Romney’s chances.

    I also suspect that if a disaster comes…before the election….most folks would prefer someone they disagree with……..to someone like Romney—-whom they WILL NEVER REALLY KNOW.

  • tnguy

    ….continues to climb, porky pig could beat obama. Romney would be a truly pathetic candidate were he to lose if things continue as they are.

  • http://www.doctor-bob.biz rsklaroff

    …by a clearly-flustered Rush.

    Let’s hope that it penetrates the electorate within the next week, without people such as David Brooks [and other RINO's who support Mitt] soft-soaping BHO.

  • Ausonius

    Unemployment is not at 8.3% unless you redefine the calculations to make it look that way. Every fair estimate I have seen places it at double digits, depending on how many people you define as unemployed.

    If you add in the underemployed, like my wife and son (5 college degrees between them and NOT in Art History), the figure ballons to 20% or even higher.

    To be sure, we do not have hyper-inflation…yet. The constant printing of money however must eventually have its day of vengeance.

    To be sure, we are not nationally bankrupt… yet. The constant cranking up of the debt ceiling however must eventaully also have its day of vengeance.

    As Dirty Harry said in “Magnum Force: “A man’s got to know his limitations.”

    So must a nation.

  • circlegranch

    but because there were so many in the race at the time, some believed we had such a big field from which to choose that throwing one or the other back in wouldn’t matter; there were plenty more where that came from. I’ve sent numerous letters of support and encouragement to Gov. Rick Perry, asking him to consider a return bid in 2016.

    Maybe by that time, the GOP will be purged of the progressives running it and Americans in general will be ready for:

    Tort reform
    ‘Well deserved and generous assistance to veterans with education and housing
    Comprehensive defunding of Planned Parenthood
    Tough and effective border security
    An end to bowing and the beginning of drilling
    “Come and take it” foreign policy
    Tax reform that works for families and businesses
    The dismantling of the Dept of Education (which is launching Summer Feeding Programs’ this summer to feed the starving children of parents that receive SNAP, per Secy of Ag, Vilsak. Sounds more like a cattle finishing program than a way to deal with human beings.)
    Dismantling of EPA and a total restructure and streamlining of the Depts of Interior and Energy
    Term limits for judges
    Pay cuts for Congress and pay withheld when balanced budgets are not produced

    I could go on, but there’s no point. It’ll have to keep till the next go-around. This one appears a lost cause. Yesterday Rush repeated conservations reported between journalists and the upper tier in the GOP that this one is a goner. Mitt can’t win. They’re going to try for gaining seats in the Senate and holding the House and call it a day. Thanks go out to Olympia Snowe for picking this as the year she decides to give up her seat, is this the beginning of a mass exodus such as the Dem’s did in ’10? She was seldom a reliable conservative vote but all seats need to be held and she just offered hers a gift to the other team.

    May God SAVE America.

  • salemst

    Newt’s a bundle of contradictions on every single issue, Inconsistent. And personally immoral. Can’t trust newt on anything he says cause in an hour he takes the opposite position.

    Newt lacks discipline, organization, money, and is a recycled washington politician ousted from leadership due to his lack of leadership, then out of Congress altogether due to ethics. He’d be a horrendous candidate. I’d vote for him if he’s the nominee defeating Mitt. But Newt’s my last choice. I don’t want another immoral president surviving Clinton, and he certainly will get skewered on the women’s vote.

    Mitt doesn’t have to reach out to Tea Partyers or Evangelicals. He’s a ruthless government cost cutter as shown in business, Olympics, and Massachusetts and stands for traditional Judeo-Christian values as part of his Reaganesque conservative “3-legged stool.” He’s better off in the general election not pandering to groups appealing more to Independents who want Obama out of there, but not someone genuflecting to groups. Mitt represents the Tea Party and Evangelical values. I don’t understand why they oppose him.

    As for Jindal. I like him. Wish he’d have run. But I’ll just end with this. If the GOP has a brokered convention manipulated and orchestrated by numerous conservatives, I’ll sit out the 2012 election. I don’t want a Jindal in 2012 who didn’t have the fire in his belly to run this time dropped out of the sky into my lap. I will vote for any of the 4 GOP candidates….In order, 1) Romney, 2) Santorum, 3) Paul, 4) Newt

  • sbm1

    Left to its own devices the economy would be fixing itself, but there are a tonne of bricks being thrown on it month after month by Obama, and it remains in the toilet,a dn the external threats can easily throw it into another recession.

    China has overcapacity, underconsumption, and is desperately short on cash.

    Europe and the ? are very close to some serious issues, and the greek crisis is far from solved.

    Energy prices are sky high, while msot other commodity prices are much lower, showing geo-political angst, but no real increased demand for goods worldwide….

    The premise of the economy healing itself at this point is utterly false!

  • circlegranch

    in the words of Harry Reid, ‘This war is lost’. Our guy is waving the white flag before he gets in the arena. And they wonder why he can’t crack 30% in approval ratings.

    The only way to beat Obama is to expose every single malfeasance and socialist policy in his administration. Follow the breaking news several times a day at The Daily Caller, Ricochet. World Net Daily, The Blaze, etc.. There’s something going on every day that needs national exposure. Instead, our candidate spends his time crying foul when he gets a little shove from a primary challenger. Wait till they open up that 200 page opposition bomb on him, prepared by his good friend, John McCain, who, by the way, is on record saying he fears Mitt is ‘too damaged’ to win. No, Senator, its not that he’s too damaged. It’s that he’s too weak and timid.

  • sbm1

    there are a couple of reasons for this

    1) the ugliness of the ? as a reserve currency means that the $ is the only reserve currency out there, and countries all over the world want more dollars too….so even though the US treasury is printing like crazy, lots of people want it just to hoarde it…the inflation comes later when they want to spend it….

    2) the abysmally low aggregate demand for goods worldwide. Oil and precious metals are the only appreciating commodities. Oil is geo-political, and metals is a flight to safety thing….but steel is way down, and that is a metal that shows how the manufacturing and building demand is going….

  • http://www.doctor-bob.biz rsklaroff

    …for a revision of the meat of this posting.

  • http://www.doctor-bob.biz rsklaroff

    …you decide to “sit out the 2012 election,” you besmirch your credibility.

  • cdthat

    Dr S., I find it interesting that you are willing to forgive Newt his indiscretions because he says he changed his mind, but you are not willing to forgive Mitt for his when he says he has changed his mind.

    You call Newt’s mind changing “reversal” and Mitt’s “flip flops” or worse accuse him of lying about his reversal. What has Mitt Romney ever done to you that makes you hate him so badly?

    And don’t say Romneycare = Obamacare. That line is so old my grandmother used it to compare Nixon to Kennedy. Ann Coulter has dispelled that myth several times so I won’t waste space here.

    I respect your right to your opinion but I expect the same in return. The continual disrespect of anyone who posts in favor of Romney as being some sort of low IQ moron is in direct violation of the “Be respectful, or be banned.” tag that I see right below the box as I am typing this. This is not directly exclusively at you Dr S. This is a general observation of nearly every regular on Red State.

    I am a proud supporter of Mitt Romney for many reasons. One of them being that Erick Erickson convinced me in 2008 to give the man a good hard look and I did. I haven’t seen anything in the 4 years since them to change my mind.

  • salemst

    Robert, I will not be manipulated into a 3rd party candidate who didn’t want to run. I’ll vote Constitution Party if need be–my natural home politically.

    This anti Mitt rhetoric hypocrisy I hear from so many who supported him 4 years is absolutely disgusting. I’m a values, defense, economic, government spending cutting, anti illegal/anti amnesty conservative and see no reason why one of the current four candidates isn’t good enough to be our nominee–and anyone who didn’t get into the race? Wait till 2016.

  • ariyosef

    NOT in 95% of America, let alone the English speaking / and allied Western world.

    Even the Liberal LIARS selling “Pie-in-the-sky,” Know better.

    If one studies Prophesy and Bibilical History…

    We are only at the beginning of the decline.

    Only one thief on the cross knew truth…
    a sinner dies unless repentant.

    My question is, can you find 50.01% of November voters in the USA who see reality in any fashion.

    One more year of BHO may seal our financial fate…
    A THIRD WORLD USA in unrepairable decline.

    Four added years of no consequence to more and more of ANTI
    American actions and there is absolutely NO HOPE of recovery.

    Divisive in every way, Democrat LIARS and LIAR in Chief have millions of dupes who will be “Acorned” to the polls.
    These theives are on an invisible cross but REAL death slide and don’t even know
    truth, justice, and “the American way.” Much less the CREATOR himself.

    If you don’t have your state, county and precincts ready to block fraud, and get out a Sane vote… Then it is too late ..
    no matter who wins C
    the tip-of-the-hat in the soon to be “BROKERED CONVENTION”.

    And…
    back to topic:

    Did anyone else note Rick Sanatorium did not get Catholic support?

    We get the leaders we DESERVE by an ALMIGHTY HAND.
    It is all in th book of books.

    The Medo-Persion (Ottoman) empire has Risen and has our Potus as Friend in Chief. (one of the 5, even the Eighth).

    “Christians” & Westerners fueled by evil Elitist Propaganda are using birth control, abortion, and state sanctioned euthanasia, while in less than 20 years, the Principal RELIGIOUS Political System ISLAM will rull all nations with a rod of iron, fear and death.

    Israel can’t strike too soon,
    (that alone, can’t shake us up enought)
    but only the Almighty and HIS armies will ultimately
    save even a REMNANT of only righteous “God Fearing” humanity.

    That is not my prophesy it is clear PROPHESY in the Book and Headlines.

    I make no apology for “preaching.”
    Politics alone will avail nothing.

  • pg1701

    GO NEWT!

  • Viet71

    If it rises in September and October, Barry’s a lock. So says the stock market 90 percent of the time. Carville had it right.

  • mikelindell2

    Every single person has personal failings. Newt didn’t “change his mind,” he made mistakes in his personal life decades ago. Romney was for most of his life a liberal on almost every issue and has now changed when expedient for him to do so. There’s a big difference-I’m electing a president not a pope. Reading Ann Coulter is bad for your powers of logic.

  • pdawk

    Regardless of how much you think Romney should have won by, the narrative was set a few days after the CO, MO, and MN contests. Santorum was up double digits in Pennsylvania, and had the lead until 2 days ago. So the narrative actually comes out that Romney came from behind to grind out a huge win in a swing state.

    Romney will get the usual post victory bounce but there is no large gap between voting periods or debates to freeze up any momentum. I agree with what Alex Castellanos said last night in that Romney should now dump the kitchen sink on Super Tuesday and try to swamp the other guys in every state possible. If Santorum loses Ohio or Gingrich only wins GA this race is over. Romney can compete everywhere, the other guys can’t.

    Everyone support their candidate until they withdraw from the race, but reality dictates that this is a ticking clock and Romney closing this out is only a matter of time.

  • davesinsanantonio

    Jindal, nor any other real conservative, was in the race. We need a real conservative to win the base and win over those who are not “true believer” democrats. Jindal, and a couple of others, can do that.

  • http://www.doctor-bob.biz rsklaroff

    1. First, anyone who doesn’t support the eventual GOP-nominee is subject to being banned from RS.

    2. Second, I am not attempting to manipulate you to do anything; rather, you are providing a foil for the opportunity to explore truths.

    3. Third, I do not know the identity of the putative “3rd Party Candidate” to whom you refer.

    4. Fourth, it is not hypocritical to have supported Mitt over McCain in ’08 but to support a more ["true"...per Rush] Conservative candidate in ’12, for the world spins on its axis.

    5. Fifth, I’m also “a values, defense, economic, government spending cutting, anti illegal/anti amnesty conservative and see no reason why one of the current four candidates isn?t good enough to be our nominee.”

    6. Sixth, when you write “anyone who didn?t get into the race? Wait till 2016,” you telegraph your prediction that BHO will win this year…a perspective that I do not share [as evidenced when I referred to Jindal as a 2020 candidate, elsewhere on this page].

    Therefore, I hope this elaboration of my motives helps you to appreciate my conclusions.

  • mikelindell2

    You say Newt’s changed on every issue but give no examples (I’ll give you the mandate that Heritage was advocating in 90′s). In fact, he is the only one who has proven his conservatism when in office. Romney ran and governed as a liberal (abortion, taxes, guns, health care) and Santorum voted for every big spending item and every pro-union item there was. Newt not only brought Republicans back into power after almost half a century, he pushed for and accomplished a balanced budget, historic tax cuts, entitlement reform. He is the only one proposing a flat tax whereas Romney’s tax plan is timid and Santorum’s wants the government to choose winners and losers. How Newt is not a hero to all conservative is truly frightening. It shows the power of media manipulation (Fox News, Drudge, National Review). Also, your facts are totally incorrect as to why Newt left office but that’s not surprising considering the rest of your arguments.

    Also, your principled man Romney supported Obama’s stimulus in 09 and said he wants to “keep the good parts” of Obamacare in 2010. Good choice

  • ariyosef

    So little reality of perspective, clears our vision.

    Pity those with heads in the clouds, listening only to themselves and fuzzy delusions.

    Then “pandering” their own delusions.

  • davesinsanantonio

    the world mainly does not forgive anything or anybody. For the rest of the electorate to forgive Newt he would have to be spectacularly high above all of his competition. He is not, and they will not.

    So, let’s support someone they will, someone who does not have an excess of baggage, who has an executive track record. Find one and support him/her, and stop trying to fit a square peg into that round hole!

  • davesinsanantonio

    too many voters do. That is why we have Obummer now. If you want to win this election then our candidate has to have some charisma, or we will be outside looking in, and crying all the while.

  • youngsterz

    . . . and inflation is being driven by the policies of this government and Washington in general. All in all, a very bad combination that will disguise the true malaise in the overall economy.

    Obama destroys the dollar; inflation affects everything; stock market “rises”, so Obama gets rewarded for “fixing” the economy by being re-elected.

    * * Sigh * * Talk about a vicious cycle.

    Most people really don’t understand economics.

    We MUST band together and fight for our very survival by joining forces around whoever is the GOP nominee and do all, ALL that we can to remove the liberal plague from the White House.

    And Romney is far better than Obama. Anyone who says he is the same or worse is being completely disingenuous for the sole purpose of pushing their own preferred candidate. Yes, their preferred candidate is more conservative than Romney. Deal with it.

  • babyscatz

    A note to actual Republicans/Conservatives who despise Romney: Think ahead a few months when this primary process is over and Mitt Romney is Obama?s opponent. The entire country will have forgotten the primaries (if they even followed them) and the glaring choice is 4 more years of the same or a different captain, one who knows the economy, job creation and that the federal government is an out-of-control monster. Can you actually admit that you will not make an effort to get to the polls, get others to the polls to vote AGAINST OBAMA by voting FOR Mitt Romney? This is all that will be asked of you. You will do it and do it with a smile on your face. WHY, you ask? Because, putting aside all the trivial differences, all the ongoing arguments and name-calling, Republicans/Conservatives love their country first and foremost and they know that the answer to the degradation of this great country is to eject THE ONE from the oval office. As for the independents that help put Obama in that oval office, they will see this as an opportunity to right a wrong. To vote for a man of conviction, a man with the experience that is perfectly balanced between job creation and economic issues learned in the private sector and experience in government gleamed from the governors office in MA.

    HELP OBAMA BUY A 2013 CHEVY VOLT – VOTE FOR MITT ROMNEY 2012

  • davesinsanantonio

    been sheared yet will believe Obummer’s lies that he will give them the wool from the other guys. Even if the economy has not improved much from what it is today, most voters will accept that we are on the road to the mend. As long as they are getting welfare or unemployment they will think we are okay. It isn’t true, but truth is not always wanted by the masses.

  • znjs

    got a ton of votes from not-Republicans? Not sure what the final percentage ended up being, but at one point he had around 57% of the not-Republican votes which made this closer then it otherwise would’ve been. But no, it’s easier to just ignore data that doesn’t fit your thesis.

  • http://www.doctor-bob.biz rsklaroff

    …let’s just note what Santorum said [notwithstanding your sense of when facing essential truths].

    It matters not whether ObamaCare is/isn’t constitutional when compared with the assertion that RomneyCare is constitutional [in Mass., presumably]. IT DOES MATTER that BOTH reflect intrusion of BIG GOVERNMENT.

    No strident assertion from Ann ["endorser of CC @ CPAC a year ago, lest we get Mitt"] Coulter will suffice [regardless of whether she has the floor on O'Reilly or on Red-Eye]. Personally, I continue to resent her claim that Judaism is an incomplete religion [Danny Deutch's Radio Show, resolutely/repeatedly emphasized]. I thought “Godless” was great, but I abhor anything she now utters.

    You are mind-reading when you claim I am unforgiving preferentially, for Mitt hasn’t rescinded/flip-flopped regarding this massive abridgment of fundamental freedom [as perhaps he should!].

    I don’t “hate” Mitt; until recently, I sported a photo of myself between him and Toomey [when he endorsed the latter] on my cell-’phone. [When I asked him whether I was between the '12 ticket, he asked "Are you running?] But we all must be as mature as possible about these epochal-decisions; Mitt’s pattern of elitist statements clearly demonstrate inability to connect with “Main St.” This is painfully true [he admitted as much] regardless of his connections to “Wall St.,” and this contrasts with The Newt’s connections with “K St.” because the latter hasn’t claimed: [1]–To want to issue a $10K bet; [2]–To want to ignore the poor; and [3]–To equate familiarity with NASCAR with knowing some of the owners.

    And this pales in comparison with his support for the Minimum Wage [which is cited at least daily by Rush], and his scorn for anyone who attacks BHO for sensationalist headlines [this REALLY got Rush going yesterday.]

    Therefore, you are cordially invited to rephrase your attack on my analysis…or to rescind yours.

  • geoph

    Michigan should alarm the GOP and Romney, and please the Democrats.

    Even after the mass exidous from the Detroit Metro area over the last few years, they (Liberals) can still control the state from Detroit. I’m not saying Dems voted and swung this election, as our local papers are proclaiming. In fact, results appear to show just the opposite. The Democratic/Liberal stronghold of Michigan is “Detroit”, but it was my understanding that the cross-over vote would be for Santorum. ?Romney easily carried the Metro Detroit area, once again proving Detroit’s population remains high enough to compensate for the rest of Michigan.

    Again, the two things we learned yesterday:
    1) Romney is NOT viewed as the Conservative.
    2) Michigan (I don’t know why we are so stupid) will go for Obama in November. ?As goes Detroit, goes MI, and neither Cons nor the GOP have the votes to break that hold – even should they Coalesce.

    Should the GOP not get a new candidate (which by far is the better strategy if they want to win in November) my?advice would be to at least cut Romney loose and make this a race between Gingrich, and Santorum. (ok….. and Paul.) ?It would still improve their chances of securing the Presidential and Senatorial power they seek. Mitt voters would likely swarm to Santorum and I’d think leadership could live with a free-spending So-Con. The only folks left unhappy would be the Fi-Cons, and you have a better chance of convincing us to cut our throats for Santorum than for Romney in the Fall.

    Will they do this? Of course not! It’s only going to get uglier until August. ?Conservative opposition will harden (not only against Romney, but the Party) as they continue to shove Romney down our collective throats. The longer this goes on, the less likely Republicans will heal in Tampa, and the more likely a good amount of Cons leave the GOP.

  • nepanyrush

    Maybe it is because you posted it at 4:45am, or maybe it is because your anti-Romney obsession is clouding your thinking, but this hopeless sounding post of yours has some poor analysis.

    1. faced with a guy you like[Obama] and a guy you don?t like [Romney] who says he can fix an economy that no longer needs fixing

    a. Economy that no longer needs fixing? Really? The massive debts, the inattention to entitlements, the massive loss of home value, rising gas prices, and the actually very high unemployment, and the fact that over 1 million people dropped ot of the labor force between December and January? As far as unemployment, the true figure, if they keep the labor force the same, is over 10%, but even 15 to 16% is the actual state of unemployment.

    And you want to take the economy off the table?

    For that is what you are doing with this post: Saying that we don’t need a candidate to fix the economy because it no longer needs fixing. Maybe in your ivory tower that is true; where I live, the economy is a mess. The GOP needs to emphasize that, not allow the government to mislead with the unemployment numbers.

    b. Obama is liked and Romney is not liked? (Your quote: ” faced with a guy you like and a guy you don?t like” with the obvious intent that Romney is the one not liked.) People are not passionate about Romney. But he generally liked. He has high favorabilities and likeability, and he is most peoples (including mine) second choice, and has been the second choice of most throughout this campaign.

    c. “Three percent.” You are aware that 10% of the vote was Democrats crossing as part of the Daily Kos/Michael Moore/UAW/Democratic Party plan for mischief. You were aware that the UAW ran ads against Romney. Too much of a deal about the margin of victory in a primary.

    d. “who can only win in states with a home state advantage, New Englanders and New England transplants, and Mormoms. ‘ First of this constant drumbeat about Mormons is getting old. It seems you add something about Mormons every time you talk about Romney, including that bizarre post where you said it was okay to vote against someone based on religion. But, Romney has won in New England, the South, the West, and the Midwest. It is not all about Mormons or New England Transplants.

    Why so hopeless? I think Santorum or Romney will be good candidates, and particularly if someone like Rubio is added to the ticket. The economy does remain a major issue, despite the spin. When under George H. Bush, the economy improved right before the election, from a very small downturn, Clinton continued to spin a horrible economy. In this present case, the economy actually is in poor shape and the GOP needs to point this out.

    Of course, if you want to look prescient about predicting Romney or Santorum getting massacred in a landslide loss to Obama, maybe you should start posting on the Daily Kos. The candidate will be one of those two and your depressive statements are being to look like you are trying to fulfill your prophesy by damping enthusiasm. Unlike you, I am very optimistic that either Romney or Santorum can beat Obama, once the focus because Obama again.

  • http://www.doctor-bob.biz rsklaroff

    …with most other pundits that the delegate-race remains unsettled.

    Thus, even if he does well next week, the lack of a majority [even if he has a plurality] of delegates could set the stage for the manifestation of my strong suggestion: “Neutorum.”

  • resser

    n/t

  • unclefred

    Any fair analysis of Obama’s approval rating shows him below 50% by between 4% and 8%, with his disapproval floating 2%-6% above it.

    If you discount outlier polls his numbers are worse as are his numbers in the swing states. He is underwater with women, his approval is anywhere from 14% to 18% behind with blacks and hispanics compared to 2008. His approval among 18-29 is as much as 20% behind where it was in 2008.

    His fund raising is well behind 2008, and the army of students that broke their backs to get him elected are not interested in activism this year.

    The middle of the country and the youth demographic voted for celebrity in 2008 and have deep buyers remorse. People may say that they “like” him, but they aren’t going to be voting for him. They will be voting based on experience in 2012 for anyone but Obama.

  • youngsterz

    The statement that Romney is “a candidate few people even like”. By that logic, every other candidate is liked even less! Romney has received more votes in more states than any other candidate. How in the world can you characterize this as being the candidate that few people even like without demeaning every other candidate in the race.

    This statement complete defies all logic. EE, I love you man, but you shouldn’t write things at 4 a.m.

    I know the strong conservatives would prefer someone else, including one of many people who are no longer or have never been in the race. I had high hopes for Daniels or Jindal, and had high hopes for Perry. The fact remains that none of them are in the race.

    Of the remaining candidates, I like Romney. Wow, does that make me a spawn of Satan? Or does it make me one of the consistently 30% or so of voters who willingly choose him as their candidate?

    AND DOES THAT MAKE ME WRONG, OR BAD? Are you going to tell me that I am so weak-minded and swayed by the media that I am just a pawn to the mind-control of the evil Romney empire? What a bunch of crap.

    I didn’t support Romney until about a month ago when I looked at the four remaining candidates, after reviewing all of their histories, debates, positions, and FLAWS, and decided that Romney has the best overall experience for being the Chief Executive of the United States of America.

    Quit dogging on people for making their thoughtful choice of candidates, and quit acting like no one by their educated choice would ever vote for Romney. Romney can beat Obama. I do not believe that any of the other three can, but do not misconstrue that to mean that I am “settling” for Romney. I am CHOOSING Romney from the choices presented.

    God Bless America. Best wishes to all. . . .

  • ragingindependent

    Support the Nominee, or we’ll ban you! You are just stating RS policy. Don’t know if you agree with it. Suspect you do by its priority in your list.

    That is such a winning formula to convince wavering voters to come to your side!

    RS regulars need to know that there are not enough of you to win elections. You need the folks who want to vote Republican (like me), but who are finding it difficult to find a candidate to get behind. I would probably vote for a gerbil before voting for the current President. But that gerbil does not have to be a Republican. Wooing, convincing, articulating a message… those all work.

    Threatening does not do the trick.

  • http://www.doctor-bob.biz rsklaroff

    …because it is vital NOT to follow your advice ["putting aside all the trivial differences, all the ongoing arguments and name-calling"] if the best POTUS-GOP candidate is to emerge [around whom we can all then unify].

    Also, note frequent references to the ’08 campaign if you think that the past can be easily forgotten [remember Santayana].

    And, please, recall the waffling-speech delivered by Mitt @ the U. of M. when he reinforced support for RomneyCare.

    http://www.c-spanvideo.org/program/Romneyon

  • honoraryintern

    Newt is done and no amount of declarations to the contrary changes that reality. Newt has to win 80% of the remaining delegates!? 45% of MI voted conservative. Without a combining of Rick and Newt talents and forces, now, we will have the RINO.

    If they both believe we can’t survive 4 more years of o’ they must put their personal ambitions aside and run as a team. Waiting to the convention gifts all the majority states to the Romney-care supporter.

  • http://www.doctor-bob.biz rsklaroff

    …as evidenced in my Diary [where I suggested key-reforms in the primary process].

    Nevertheless, “a pox on both their houses” compared with the need to recognize the strengths harbored by The Newt.

  • http://www.doctor-bob.biz rsklaroff

    …but you may wish to confront some of the specific policy-concerns articulated [and documented] supra.

  • http://www.doctor-bob.biz rsklaroff

    …with support from Santorum…yielding “Newtorum”!

  • Republican_Michigander

    This race was won for Romney 30 days ago when the race started. I believe absentees were 25% of the actual voting, not 17% as the polls suggested.

    Santorum probably won the votes cast yesterday based on the results I saw from clerk’s offices.

    As for the Newt comeback, it ain’t gonna happen.

  • http://www.doctor-bob.biz rsklaroff

    [Remember, the GOP-POTUS will be re-elected in '16!]

  • http://www.doctor-bob.biz rsklaroff

    …when I’m repeating RS-policy.

    [a 3rd party re-elects BHO]

    *

    I would also quibble with your tag-line:

    To the Republicans: It?s not 1980. IT COULD EASILY BE!
    To the Democrats: It?s not 1968. IT COULD EASILY BE!

  • acat

    Romney has scored quite well as peoples’ “second choice” candidate. Consider the periodic poll over at hotair.com as a sample.

    Further, Romney won 42% of the GOP vote – so he did not win a majority. From that, it’s perfectly reasonable to say “most GOPers dislike Romney”.

    I’ve seen nothing from you explaining *why* you like Romney – what specific positions he’s taken (and when) or what specific campaign strategies he’s employed. Without that, for all I know, you’re a Dem lapdog trolling, eh? (grin)

    More importantly, without an explanation of why you’ve chosen Romney, you’ll have little success persuading others, and have also closed off discussion on whether your information regarding his history and positions are accurate.

    Mew

  • jon11

    If things are so good i wonder why we’re even bothering to challenge Obama?

    Why don’t we just go ahead and concede?

    No Erick, as i assume you know, the economy is awful. Unemployment is 8.3% and CBO estimates it will closer to 9% by election day.

    Labor force participation is at something like 64% and there are 1.2 million fewer people working today than when obama took over. And Obama remains upside down on his handling of the economy.

    Did Debbie Wasserman Schultz write this post for you because it sounds a bit like her work.

    Romney has recieved several times more votes than any of the other candidates so the idea that he lacks popular support is…well…to use a nice word…untenable.

    Thats what deomcrats do. They tell people day is night and night is day and expect them to buy it.

    And no, Washington isn’t scrambling for Jindal or anybody else today.

    They’d have only been doing that if santorum had won. They made it clear they would try to stop him. It was funny to watch the hearts of paul begala and the other librals break in real time last night when it became clear they weren’t going to get their Christmas gift (thats the way one high ranking WH official characterized what a santorum win in michigan would have been,)

    Look, Erick, trying to argue that the guy who keeps winning is actually the weakest isn’t doing your credibility any favors. Santorum blew a double diget lead coming into michigan. He blew it with an atrocious debate performance: He blew it by railing against ‘college’ even though he has two advanced degrees. He blew it by saying JFK’s speech on separation of church and state made him want to puke.

    You honestly think stuff like that appeals to independents? You can’t possibly believe that.

    In the end its a 50-50 country and even a candidate as flawed as santorum could probably have given obama a run.

    Romney’s a lot better than santorum, clearly. Romney will will do more that give obama a run.

  • Marcus_Traianus

    The economy no longer needs fixing? Things are going to fix themselves? Is that what is going on in Congress and the Executive Branch? Who knew? Not the people I talk to.

    Obama is…better than Romney? You will need to explain that in light of the last several years of explicating, ad nauseum, about the absolutely critical effort to remove Obama from office in order to save our Republic,

    That’s rich. And certainly original.

    Is the objective to promote Balkanization and await the conservative god-king Instead of trying to become part of the conversation and at least attempting to influence the platform?

    This smells strongly like a lack of vision and inability to conceptualize gradual strategies for achieving our goals. It is the same type of thinking which gave us the current destructive occupant of the White House. In the end, it will diminish the conservative movement.

  • dukeroyal

    At least Newt has a chance to beat Obama. Romney and Santorum will lose as bad as Mondale did to Reagan in 1984.

  • Aaron Gardner

    Yawn.

  • blark

    Eric, regarding your opinions and articles, this is the jumping off point for me. How many times can you be wrong, and then surface the day after with more of the same sour grapes after the very thing you do not want to happen happens. Your track record for predicting things and pognosticating over these past several weeks is pathetic, yet the sour grapes continue. I guess as long as there is a 24-7 news void to feed, talking heads like you will be in demand, regardless of whether you actually offer anything insightful. Your characterization of Romney as “a candidate few people like” does not square with the facts: one does not win seven states and tie in one if “few people like him”. Just because you do not like him, does not make your wish that others not like him come true. Wake up and speak to the realities in front of your face rather than from some deeper, personal issue you have with Romney. The more you predict (hope for) his downfall and He pulls it out and you come back with sour grapes and more crazy predictions, the more credibility you lose with the sane. But, hey, there is a very large market out there for the insane (those still wishing that Perry, Cain, were still in the race, those who think that Newt or Santorum have any mathematical chance to win, and if they did, that there is any mathematical path to a general election win behind their extremes, and those who hope someone like Jindal would get in –really, Jindal???). I have considered your emails each morning for several weeks, but as of today, I no longer even view any information of value there and will stop them from coming.

  • jon11

    N/T :)

  • http://www.examiner.com/x-1597-Charlotte-Law--Politics-Examiner Mike gamecock DeVine

    Quit drinking the Kool-Aid EE and try reporting the real economic misery.

  • Section9

    All things being equal, given today’s political environment, Obama is likely to beat Romney like a rented mule.

    Romney may be a reasonably good businessman and a turnaround artist. However, Obama is a politician.

    Mitt Romney has had trouble putting away Rick Santorum, one of the more doctrinaire and angry conservatives of this generation. Rick lost his reelect to a Cigar Store Indian by 20 points.

    That tells me how well Mitt will do in the fall against a real opponent.

    If you want to know why Palin is avoiding Romney like the plague, it’s not just because Mitt is a moderate, big-government Republican.

  • greeneyeshade

    ?When faced with a guy who has actually said that your enjoying sex for its own sake while you?re on birth control is abnormal and who promises to lecture you about it as President, you as a woman are going to go with the other guy no matter what.?

    If he had said anything like that, it still wouldn’t be women that get the most upset based upon my admittedly unscientific observations. I know several people that are incensed that anybody questions the social impact of birth control and they are all MALE. The funny part is the most ardent one lives at home individual nearing 40 whose need for birth control is aspirational at best and largely imaginary.

    Look, Pandoras box was opened a long, long time ago. Its not going away. This whole argument is the new version of “Republicans want to take away your Social Security”.

  • Ender

    who was endorsing the stupidest ends justify the means Santorum strategy of appealing to leftists yesterday, which was partly responsible for reenergizing Republicans to come out and vote for Romney. Romney incidentally carried Republicans 47% to 37%..

    The hate for Romney is really clouding the vision here. This is what you call “analysis”? There was no win for Romney that you wouldn’t spin away as a loss.

    Tough. Romney will be the nominee and somehow we’ll defeat Obama with or without you.

  • greeneyeshade

    But a lot of people do. BHO’s entire 2008 campaign was a series of concerts and more than once he was referred to as a “rock star”.

  • renl57

    Check the exit polls in MI. Romney won the female vote and Santorum tied Romney with the male vote.

    The issue isn’t Santorum’s views on birth control. He’s welcome to have any views he wants.

    The issue is Santorum’s pledge to lecture the American people about it. To me, that is the social-conservative equivalent of President Carter’s infamous “malaise” speech.

    In that speech, Carter criticized the American people for being allegedly selfish and apathetic.

    And now we’ve got Santorum promising to criticize the American people for being too libertine about sex.

    It’s not the job of the President or any other politician to sit in judgment on the American people. The people are sovereign, and how they choose to live their own private lives should be off-limits to ANY politician.

  • Ender

    nt

  • naysayer

    … because for “The Newt” to have won Michigan, you’d have to shift 17% of the vote, not 1.5%, since he took fourth place there behind Ron Paul.

    And as far as Santorum goes, since 10% of the Michigan voters were self-described Democrats, and over half of _those_ voted for Santorum, you’d actually need to shift over 3% of the actual _Republican_ vote to get even Santorum past Romney there.

  • greeneyeshade

    And when their morality includes taking your money through taxes?

  • johnt

    Anybody see the breakdown on production, manufactruing, sales, e

  • pdawk

    It summarizes my thoughts exactly.

    I wanted Mike Pence, Paul Ryan or Chris Christie to run, but they didn’t. I was on the Cain Train for a short period of time. But when it came down to brass tacks I decided to go with the guy that is the most qualified to run this country.

    The only group of people who are anti-Romney are the very conservative voters. Some of those think Romney is to moderate, some don’t like the fact he is a Mormon, some think he is a out of touch rich guy. Outside of that group, the majority of the Republican electorate has decided to go with Romney.

    I am a fiscal conservative and a social moderate. Romney is in no way my perfect candidate, but he is for my views of the world, the best candidate we have left.

  • Whacker77

    I won’t lie. Last night was very depressing. I had hoped Santorum would deliver a knockout punch to Romney that would make a white knight candidate far more likely. Instead, the empire struck back and Romney edged out a small win in one of his five home states. Maybe he can be knocked off track in Ohio, but I doubt it.

    Regardless, I felt last night how the most ardent Romney supporters will feel in the Fall when Romney loses the general election. I saw it all slip through our fingers as Romney won the race solely on the basis of Detroit. Although I have been expecting a loss for some time, last night it hit me head on 2012 is already over.

    It’s not easy to beat a president and it’s only been done five times. Still, Obama was and remains the most beatable incumbant since Hoover, but our candidates have never matched the moment. Rather than demand a real and substantive conservative choice, we fought over the conservative freak show and allowed Romney to shoot the gap.

    The 2012 election year should be a lesson to us all. If we want to win, we can’t treat the race as if it’s a House race. We can’t fall in love with 100% purity or bombastic comments. I know that won’t appeal to many here, but the presidency is nothing like a race for the House or even the Senate.

    I hope Erick keeps a list of those candidates who abandoned us this time around. When 2016 rolls along and Bush and Christie and Jindal and Daniels and Thune come calling, just remember what they did to the party and the country by not running in 2012. Just remember how much of Obama’s agenda became engrained in our lives forever because they didn’t run.

    Frankly, the thought of voting for Romney disgusts me. He’s a soulless candidate who simply wants to be president just so he can say he is president. He’s not running for a cause, he’s just running for his own personal desires. Last night, we consigned ourselves to defeat and it makes me sick to my stomach. The whole process has, for that matter.

  • ihateliberals

    It was obvious when they put McCain up against Obama to start with and they have only self destructed ever since. The economy never has been the fighting issue. Obamacare and the socialization of Amereica is what the issue is and the Tea Party had it nailed. Then you have the Liberal Republican leadership actively working to destroy the Tea Party and john Boehner with his lack luster performance and you know that they don’t get it. Then in an election that the Republicans shouldn’t even have to break a sweat on they put up the absolute worse candidates of the last 50 years. Then they allow the Democrats to dictate the debates and pit the candidates against each other as if they were running for the General election already.

    The Republicans have let not just the conservatives down but America. Because of their misguided moderate movement and allowing the Progressives into the Party they are helping Obama demolish the constitution and everything we have stood for. No one seems to want to stop them and if they do the Party quashes them. The ony way that Romeny won his home state is the the Party dumped more money than Santorum could come up with into the win. That should be a sad day for Romney but he just doesn’t get it or care.

    On top of everything else we are allowing people like Tim Pawlenty and Michelle Backman who knew the issues be kocked out of the race and Gingrich and Ron Paul continue to be spoilers. Paul must have known Methuselah in person and I have a better chance of being elected than he does. It doesn’t matter what his ideas are he is too far over the hill to be a contender. people that are 25 years old aren’t going to connect with or vote for him. Gingrich just like Romney is like a sun perch out of water. Flip-flopping around. In my 64 years i have never seen such a message up Republican challenge to a Democrat. The party is over we might as well turnoff the lights and just go home. The Fat lady has sung.

  • naysayer

    If he’s scored quite well as people’s second choice, how does it make sense to say that most people dislike him? Even if that’s the case, by your logic all other GOP candidates are disliked more.

  • johnt

    the point is that business in general & in different catagories is in weak, if not dire straits. Concerning energy, tax policy, & regulatory reform, this economy needs serious, conservative reform.

  • http://wadingacross.wordpress.com logus

    Everyone keeps talking about Marco Rubio.

    Who?! ;)

    It’s Jindal, man.

    EE said so.

    Though, of course, I have him pegged better as a veep.

  • Kyle-MI

    I am shocked, shocked I tell you that the opposition has opposition research on our candidates!!!

  • Section9

    Yasir Arafat could beat Rick Santorum.

    What is it about the fact that Romney is having trouble putting this guy away that is keeping you from getting a clue about Mitt’s weakness.

    Movement people have known this about Romney all the time. He’s a family man and a successful businessman, but he’s a poor politician.

    Obama will literally run rings about this guy, and in a time when Obamacare needs repeal to save this country from insolvency, we nominate someone who can’t get the job done?

    Makes one want to tie one’s dog to the roof of one’s car and hose it down in frustration!

  • Juggernaut

    looking to anger the base because they feed on anger, resentment and it fires them up in way only a rioter could understand.

  • clintonformccain

    …that the Republican blogosphere is currently infected with a small, but vocal minority that is so caught up in anti-establishmentarianism that they have lost all sense of perspective on the imperfect nature of democratic politics. Perfectly willing to reject candidates for even obviously unqualified candidates who push a few hot button tea party/religious right issues and talk with a tinge of conspiracy against “the man”. See Sharon Angle, Christine O’Donnell, and a third-tier nobody like Rick Santorum.

    Frankly, if Rick Santorum is the best these folk can come up with to challenge Mitt Romney, then the problem is not Mitt Romney, but the abject failure of the right wing Republicans to come up with even plausibly viable candidates.

    ————-

    As for the majority of people liking Barack Obama (as President), you have got to be kidding. Even his more ardent supporters shake their heads at his bumbling. Apparently only right wing Republicans miss that fairly obvious fact.

  • annie54

    …..with support from Newt…yielding “Torumnewt” ?

  • renl57

    Surf to:
    http://mittromney.com/videos

    and view all the videos under “Obama Isn’t Working”.

    While RedState and Gingrich have been busy attacking Romney, Romney has been busy attacking Obama’s record.

    And he does it without sounding like a conspiracy theorist.

    Romney’s theme is “Obama is a failure and just not up to the job.”

    Not “Obama is a Marxist/Muslim/Kenyan/Alinskyite threat to America.”

  • Ender

    because of the all not-Romney’s blindly hopping from one horrible candidate to the next. That is the only reason. It had nothing to do with any Santorum merits. It’s tough to fight through all the hate, but Romney is managing just fine, thank you very much.

    You keep telling yourself the same nonsense that the left has brainwashed you with, that Obama is going to easily beat Romney. Keep on telling yourself that.

    Those of us who are interested in beating Obama will stay realistic and positive and work on getting that inept loser out of the White House.

  • ddawg

    I read last night that one of today’s talking points would be that Romney exceeded his 2008 vote total. It is also true that Santorum exceeded Romney’s 2008 vote total.

    Santorum also finished closer to Romney than McCain did, and McCain ended up winning the nomination.

  • Spartan4Life

    He has totally invested himself in a Romney defeat. Facts don’t matter. This is about him now, dammit.

    The reality is that there has been no credible Conservative candidate against Romney since this thing started. I looked up disaster in the dictionary and there was a picture of Rick F Santorum. Now Erick seems to be jumping on the White Knight bandwagon which is the last refuge of a losing strategy.

    I voted for Romney reluctantly in 2008 as an alternative to McCain. I am stuck supporting him again because nobody better has mounted a winning campaign. That is not my fault. But we all better get behind him now or we are looking at four more years of soft fascism.

  • annie54

    He is expressionless, talks on and on and on and way too fast and leaves me totally cold. What’s the deal with him, you guys?

  • tyman

    I’ll take a repentant conservative who has ACTUALLY done something nationally over a flip flopping, glass jawed, unprincipled ex-governor who didn’t run for re-election because he knew he’d get beaten badly.

    Seriously, Romney a conservative? The things he said to Rick Perry show me that he is not conservative. A REAL conservative doesn’t run everyone else down to make themselves look good, and that’s exactly what Romney has done with every candidate (he did it in 2008 as well). Why won’t he do the same to Obama?

    Mitt is only spending all of his money because he’s not the candidate everyone thinks he is. If Romney’s money is his biggest hope, we’re in deep trouble.

    BTW, EE, unless the media props it up successfully the way they brought it down, I’m looking for the economy to crash. Remember in late 2006 and 2007, when the media told us how bad things were? I really believe they set things in motion for 2008 and the election. I think they’re going to try to do the reverse this year.

  • acat

    If Romney scored well as second choice but not first choice, clearly he’s .. not liked.

    Every other candidate currently in the race, and quite a few who have suspended were, at various times, liked *more* than Romney.

    Please, stop removing all doubt.

    Mew

  • Bill S

    When Thomas Crown banned you before, it was intended to be permanent. Not until you dug out another ID.

    Bye.

  • rigdum

    actually, among Republicans and independents Romney won by at least 7%. 9% of voters according to exit polls were dems who voted for Santorum by a 40% margin–figure it out.

  • annie54

    n/t

  • http://wadingacross.wordpress.com logus

    Don’t go throwing facts into the mix!

    ;)

  • sethellis

    First they came for the Mormons. I am disappointed that Erick would promote this story as a reason not to select Romney without pointing out how shameful of an attack this is. It is an assault on religion, and it is no different from what they did to Santorum. The only difference is that Romney its smart enough to not fall for it. We cannot stand idly by as the media continues its assault on religion.

    It is exactly this sort of comment from Erick that leaves so many of us skeptical on Erick’s claim that “his Mormonism has nothing to do with it”.

  • http://www.examiner.com/x-1597-Charlotte-Law--Politics-Examiner Mike gamecock DeVine

    Pitiful. But EE isn’t alone. Even Fox News refuses to report on the actual employment picture sans the 1.2 million that Obama says are no longer “in the labor force” so that U-3 looks better.

    Guess what, if everyone that is unemployed didn’t fill out a McDonalds application over the next 4 four weeks, U-3 would drop to ZERO and Obama could coast is in…

    Obama should lose and will lose to any of the remaining 3, because unlike EE, they don’t swallow CNN-Fox News cheeriness. They are not all working for the government or living off the government happily. Millions became entrepreneurs over the past 15 years and know that the customers are not calling.

    The picture next to disaster is of Obama and the donkey.

  • chadosborne

    If Romney is winning he must be doing something right.

    The haters will just have to get used to the idea of voting for him in the general election, or they can join the kenyan socialist bandwagon and vote Obama.

    The voters are freely choosing the republican nominee like they’ve always done. Romney will obviously not get 100% of the votes in the primary, so his detractors should take a moment and put aside the pettiness for the good of the country. An Obama second term would be a disaster with far reaching consequences: amnesty for illegals, expansion of obamacare, runaway spending, and of course the appointment of 2 or 3 supreme court justices. People can whine about it all they want but it is impossible to pick a nominee that satisfies everybody. The majority will have to prevail.

  • clintonformccain

    How on God’s geen earth can a Republican watch CNN election coverage. Sheesh, might as well turn to NPR for political punditry.

  • http://www.examiner.com/x-1597-Charlotte-Law--Politics-Examiner Mike gamecock DeVine

    smile

  • naysayer

    Second choice rather than first would be conclusive that he’s not “most liked”, but it doesn’t say anything about whether he’s actually disliked, unless your thesis is that one can only like a single politician at a time (if you actually _like_ any, of course).

    I’ve been clear in my posting history that I was a Huntsman supporter. I’m not excited about Romney — he was definitely my second choice — but I don’t dislike him.

    I think his expertise is reasonably well suited to the principal challenge (the economy) the nation faces at the moment and that he would be unlikely to implode or go seriously retrograde on other conservative issues. And I do think he has the best chance to defeat Obama in the fall.

    Show me a plausible — _plausible_ alternative and I’ll certainly listen. Wishful thinking you can keep.

  • renl57

    …but not as President.

    There are several different Cabinet posts that Gingrich could easily fill.

    But the public has made up its mind about Gingrich as a political leader. His latest approval ratings among all voters:

    25% (CNN/OpRsch poll)
    16% (CBS/NYT poll)

    16% approval is just awful–the worst ever (even Nixon had a higher approval rating just before he resigned the Presidency). And there’s no way for Newt to win an election starting from that basis.

  • sharrondeer

    There’s been virtually no inflation since Obama took office.

  • chadosborne

    Cooked statistics won’t fool the people living through the depression:

    Romney 50%
    Obama 46%

    http://www.gallup.com/poll/election.aspx

    The writing is on the wall.

    Obama is toast.

  • APA Guy

    nt

  • sharrondeer

    You probably shouldn’t use falsehoods like “over 1 million people dropped ot of the labor force between December and January.”

  • tnguy

    Gallup says unemployment is back up to 9%. Gas is inching back up to $4. And the fundamental problems with the economy, such as the deficit, have gone another year completely unaddressed. Any appearance that things are getting better are only short term, whether now or in the fall. Neither side has done thing one to address the real issues.

    Only the grace of God will prevent it from being worse come fall. Even a mediocre republican candidate could win this year. Unfortunately, we are left with only 2 very poor ones.

    The republican party needs to be totally revamped. The last 2 republican primary fields have been pathetic, while some really good candidates sat on the bench. We get exactly what we deserve for leaving guys like Boehner and McConnell in charge. That’s the end result of holding our nose and voting (R), no matter how pitiful the (R).

  • renl57

    9% of voters in the GOP primary were Democrats. 57% of those described themselves as “liberal.”

    Santorum won 53%, a clear majority. Meaning that his final vote tally (Erickson’s “loss of just 3 percent”) included 5% who were liberals.

    Those liberals didn’t vote for Santorum out of conviction. They did it to screw up the GOP nomination process.

    Had they not voted, Romney would have beaten Santorum by 8 points, not 3.

  • Ender

    than the stuff Eric is pushing. The only reason this ridiculous candidate Santorum had such a chance against Romney is because of the constant push from this minority, egged on by Rush and Hannity and Levin (I like Rush and Levin but they’ve been off base).

  • joeydavis

    He’s been dead. Romney (and 2 ex wives that he cheated on) killed him in Iowa.

    Yeah yeah he won South Carolina, I know. But South Carolina is still in the confederacy, they’ll vote for a dead guy before they’ll vote for a Yankee!

    Newt’s dead, let his soul give up the ghost.

    Let’s all take a moment to sit back and remember the former speaker for all the great things he did for America in his younger days. Newt was a great American, a great visionary for America. His “Contract for America” was a great awakening for a party that never seized momentum from the Reagan Revolution.

    Newt was a great man, destroyed by his own self inflicted wounds. We should remember him fondly.

    Thank you Newt for your great service to America. Now step aside and let Santorum finish Romney off and save us from Obama!!!

  • hls87

    And in other news, Generalissimo Fransisco Franco is still dead. Romney has been a lock ever since the fools in Iowa and South Carolina decided it would be fun to play make believe and pretend that Rick Santorum and Newt Gingrich were real presidential candidates.

    There was precisely one politician in America with the stature to run for President in 2012 who was far enough to Romney’s right that he might actually do some good if elected. As luck would have it that person, the Governor of Texas, chose to run. Republican voters had only two realistic choices — Romney or Perry. They could pick the progressive or they could pick the conservative. Every other prospect was a mirage. Instead of facing their binary choice rationally, conservatives chased one fantasy after another. Bachmann, Cain, Gingrich and Santorum were all nonstarters. Support given to any one onf them just helped Romney on his way to the nomination.

    The story of Michigan is not that Romney could only manage a three percent victory. It is that Santorum blew a 15 per cent lead. That was entirely predictable. That’s what happens when fantasy runs into reality. Rick Samtorum had his last good night of the primary process when he won CO, MO and MN. He’s done. So is Newt. Mitt was the last plausible candidate standing the moment Perry withdrew from the race. At that moment it was all over but the shouting.

    EE hates the prospect of a Romney nomination almost as much as I do. He should look in the mirror and consider his role in making Romney inevitable. Did he explain to conservatives when there was still a chance to stop Romney that Bachmann, Cain, Gingrich and Santorum were Potemkin candidates none of whom could compete with Romney over the long haul? Did he make the choice clear for those incapable of figuring it out on their own? When Santorum won Iowa did he point out that the only way to retrieve the situation and stop a Romney nomination was to rally around Perry in SC?

    He didn’t do any of those things. Instead. he fed the delusion that Gingrich and Santorum were real presidential candidates. He filled his blogging with trivial, inside baseball about the supposed inadequacies of the Perry campaign. In common with most of the conservative commentariat, EE failed to lead. He didn’t point the way toward the Romney alternative, and so we’re stuck with Romney who will probably lose.

    Worse yet, that’s the best thing one can say about Mitt. He will probably lose to Obama and so we get another chance to put things right in four years. Let’s all pray that’s not too late and that we don’t screw up 2016 as we’ve screwed up 2012.

  • acat

    starting with gas prices, which have driven up the cost of everything delivered by truck…

    Were you, perhaps, living on a desert island since 2007?

    Mew

  • RichmondG30

    “This is Personal Now for EE. He has totally invested himself in a Romney defeat. Facts don’t matter. This is about him, dammit.”

    Haven’t been on RS for a week or so, and now I remember why.

    EE’s a bright guy, but “pull Bobby Jindal in the race tomorrow”? Really? Can you explain the mechanics of this and how it would play out?

    Where is his campaign organization?

    Where is his money?

    How do you propose getting him on the ballot in the remaining states?

    Face it, EE, your mouth is BHO’s best friend right now.

  • tnguy

    ….should not be a cause for celebration. He ran well in a union state, where one of his big issues was that Romney was opposed to the automaker bailout.

    That should be nauseating to any conservative.

    Romney and Santorum supporters are arguing over two pitiful candidates. Neither is worth our time.

  • JSobieski

    I am legitimately curious, as I would expect Santorum to win sincere D votes outside of SE Michigan.

    Stupak’s district (which covers much of the state) would be ripe for Santorum supporters who were sincere.

  • renl57

    …was more impressive than you or Erickson give him credit for.

    Among self-described *Republicans*, Romney beat Santorum 48-37. NINE percent, not three percent.

    http://elections.nytimes.com/2012/primaries/states/michigan/exit-polls?ref=politics

    So if Romney beat Santorum by 9 points among Republicans, why did he only lead by 3 points among all voters?

    Because Santorum won Dem crossover votes, 53-18. And of those Dem crossovers, the majority self-identified as liberal.

    They weren’t voting for Santorum because they like him. They were trying to screw over the GOP.

    And Erickson KNOWS THAT. He didn’t mind. Anything to destroy Romney’s candidacy is evidently fine with him.

  • uhangtight

    Let me see 11 to Santorum for the night and 29+11 for Romney.

    What is the total delegate count? Romney 145.

    And, Santorum? 82.

    A win is a win. And, how many home states does Romney have now? It seems that every state is his home state. How about Santorum and Newt their home state of Virginia? Do you think it is a must win for them, too? Oh, wait, they couldn’t even get on the ballot in their own home states.

    I wonder if Santorum wins PA or VA (oh wait, he can’t) by 3% what will you be saying then? Or what if Newt wins GA by only 3% what will you be saying? The immaturity or is it EGO now in most of the blogging commentators is amazing.

  • Melody Warbington (rwm52)

    and will translate to an even bigger win if Santorum ends up with more MI delegates than Mittens.

    You seem to conveniently forget that the same people who backed Angle and O’Donnell also backed people like Rubio and Lee. That “establishment” who couldn’t be bothered to help Angle and O’Donnell brought us McCain who lost, (And for the record, I was never a Huckabee supporter, but a Fred head.)

    This comment shouldn’t be construed to imply that Angle & O’Donnell were great candidates, but when push comes to shove, the GOP leadership has no problem asking us to get in line wtih its candidates. Imagine what could happen if they’d return the favor. And by “us” I do indeed mean the tea party, religious right voters. You know, those tea partiers who were responsible for taking back the House in 2010.

  • acat

    dug into the exit polls a bit

    Nine percent of GOP primary voters were Democrats and they went for Santorum by 51%. So the robocalls had some effect. Romney and Paul each picked up 17% of that group. But the presence of that many Democrats makes it hard to draw conclusions from some of the poll data. Twelve percent of GOP primary voters said they “Strongly Oppose” the Tea Party and that group also went for Santorum (45%) over Romney (29%). That’s gotta be those Democratic voters in large part, right? Santorum also got 45% of those who “Strongly Support” the Tea Party. Same problem with the union membership question.

    I think it’s rather Rorschach…. different people will see different things in the results, based on what they want to see.

    Mew

  • renl57

    From the exit polls, it’s clear that the number of liberals who crossed over to vote for Santorum to screw over the GOP nominating process actually exceeds Romney’s winning margin over Santorum.

  • Republican_Michigander

    Reports I’ve heard are that absentees were about 25% of the vote. Romney won absentees by a 2-1 margin in areas he split the vote 50/50.

    This came down to do things. Seniors who were voting for Mitt’s Dad, and the fact that Santorum’s campaign got started in Michigan after the start of the actual election day, 30 days ago when the ballots were already out.

  • Republican_Michigander

    Picking winners and losers.

  • cacharlie

    I’ve been voting for him every chance I get since 2008. Go Erick!!!

  • JSobieski

    I have in my head the image of a Reagan democrat—a UAW worker who would support a tax increase in many instances (but is concerned that a tax increase now is a bad idea), wants a strong America in terms of foreign policy, dislikes the tea party because they don’t want to “compromise”, likes unions, is against free trade, and thinks manufacturing is the back bone of the economy. Such a person is pro-life and hunts regularly.

    This person is capable of calling themself a liberal, although clearly not an across the board liberal.

    I think Santorum has a genuine appeal to such folks. Such a person is not wedded to supporting Obama, so even if they are a D, I don’t see them as operation chaos votes.

  • Finrod

    Newt Gingrich fought Bill Clinton and won as many as he lost, and balanced the budget. Jindal may have started to turn Louisiana around, but he still has a lot of work to do, plus he hasn’t exactly set the woods on fire with his speaking ability.

  • cacharlie

    I am so technically challenged on this blog that if Jindal didn’t really ring my chimes I would have given up on trying to say so. As it is, I see myself representing a whole lot of voters who take their job seriously that the smarter folks on this site would be glad to know are out there.

  • paco12348

    Carl Rove pushed Romney as the “only one electable” before the race began. Bob Dole and other big Republican Establishment so called leaders cremated Gingrich when he rose to the top. Romney was their pick just like McCain was. The GOP is no longer just a Party, they have become Overseers just like the Democrat Party. Sorry, the Progressive Democrat aka Socialist Party. The People are no longer trusted to select a candidate. When that happens, enthusiasm goes out the window. I am a Republican but I am ashamed of Republican Leaders.

  • Ausonius

    SBM 1 wrote:

    “.so even though the US treasury is printing like crazy, lots of people want it just to hoarde it?the inflation comes later when they want to spend it?.

    Excatly: And that day will be the start of some very ugly times.

  • Finrod

    They didn’t care about Bill Clinton’s, they sent him to the Oval Office twice. Heck if Newt could turn the economy around I wouldn’t care if he had 700 wives and 300 concubines.

  • Finrod

    The only issue under the sun that Mitt Romney has not flip-flopped on is named Ann Romney.

    Romney has proven himself to be a Lying Suckweasel, and Lying Suckweasels can NEVER be conservative.

  • tngal

    Is that really the strategy? He may get dems like those in Michigan to vote in the primary but he can’t seriously believe they’ll flock to him in the general. If he’s just going for a smattering of delegates like RP,how does that get us a decent candidate?

    Granted not all states allow enemy infiltration (sorry, that should read open primaries)but it seems to me a candidate shouldn’t get excited over the vote totals when it doesn’t translate into actual support.

    I would ask Santorum supporters here who do send their money to help their candidate, is this what you wanted? To see your money go to robocalls to dems asking for their votes. You do know they are not going to embrace him whole hog come November, right?

    Not trying to be mean, just asking if this is the winning strategy everyone has their hopes built on.

  • JSobieski

    My parents voted several weeks ago for Newt. Had they known the status of the race, I could see them voting for Santorum.

  • aesthete

    I know it’s quaint to reference what people actually did as a predictor of their actions and abilities going forward, but I think it’s a little more important than a person’s expression or how he makes you “feel”. Old-fashioned, I know.

  • joeydavis

    In 2000, Democrats made up 17% of the Michigan primary. In 2008 Democrats made up over 7% of the electorate. 9% in exit polling is within the margin of error for 7%. This number is not outside the norm for an open primary and Republicans will certainly need more 10% of the Democratic vote in November if they hope to win Michigan.

    In addition, Romney actually won the liberal/moderate segment of the population, where the Democratic vote would be.

    Last, Santorum won overwhelmingly in the Republican part of the state. Romney’s entire margin of victory came from Orange county, which happens to be the biggest Democratic haven in the state.

    Romney won by less than 3% period.

  • goodgovernance

    I love how Romney supporters switch from saying, “Don’t attack Romney! Then he won’t win in the general, he’s so fragile!” to “Romney’s inevitable! Obama is toast!” in a flash. The logical inconsistency is stunning.

    I don’t know where Gallup is getting its numbers but other polls show Obama pulling ahead of Romney. Here’s one from Politico: http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0212/73308.html

    But even if you don’t like the numbers, the real worrisome factor here is the trend line. Obama’s numbers are going UP, and that has to do with the improving economy. Should the economy continue to improve, Romney is the one who’s toast.

    Erick’s description of the situation is spot-on correct, and he captures my feelings about where we are and what’s going to happen. It’s very difficult to unseat a sitting president. If you look at the two most recent instances where it happened, Reagan vs. Carter in 1980, and Clinton vs. Bush in 1992, the common pattern there is a bad economy, and challengers who were the best communicators of their respective parties.

    Romney is no great communicator. He can’t even get more delegates than Santorum from his own home state. The only way he wins in a general election is if the nation heads back into the dumpster.

    I for one, do not want to look like I’m wishing the nation ill just so Romney can get into the Oval Office. A warning to the Rombots: if you appear like you’re wishing for economic disaster or relishing it when it happens, that will turn off swing voters and independents in the general in a big way. Be self-aware.

  • goodgovernance

    you’re not going to get independents and swing voters, I can tell you that much.

    Also, if you find that Romney isn’t catching on by September, I’d recommend against lambasting the American public for being a bunch of bigots. That doesn’t bring people over to your side, either.

  • acat

    We know liars lie .. so can we trust the exit polls?

    Mew

  • Finrod

    I challenge you to show any evidence that Mitt Romney is in any way a fiscal conservative.

    I’m supporting the one candidate in the race that is a proven fiscal conservative, Newt Gingrich.

  • annie54

    many FOX viewers have turned to CNN, which is much more Republican fair and balanced.

  • Whacker77

    Sorry, but Romney didn’t whine and moan when half of his voters in New Hampshire were non-Republicans. Frankly, I don’t care who voted for whom. I just know Willard Mitt Romney will not win in the general election. He’s a dud who’s failed to lock up conservative support, despite having run for president for six years.

  • clowngirl

    With many comments on how awkward Governor Jindal was and how he wasn’t ready for the national stage.

    What’s drastically changed since then? How would he even get on the ballot in most states?

    Don’t get me wrong – I’d love to see him jump in if it means restarting the debates and giving Newt a golden opportunity.

    The real question after Romney’s narrow home state victory is whether he’s weakened enough and KNOWS he’s weakened enough, to reconsider the GA debate.

    Newt’s prospects for Super Tuesday look much brighter with the possibility of another break out debate performance in front of the home town crowd…

  • annas

    EE–this seems to have become a personal vindeta against Romney for you. I have been gone for a bit as I am tired of the constant bashing of Romney. The voters (remember them?) are consistently backing Romney. It was NOT a 3 point margin. Santorum, in a desperate attempt to win, got the Democrats out to laugh at him. The margin was closer to 6 points. You are backing yourself into a corner where you will have to vote for the Kenyan socialist-take a breath and give that a thought!

  • joeydavis

    Santorum didn’t blow a double digit lead. He closed a 30 pt gap and he did it in just 21 days. Romney should have won Michigan by 20 pts and busted the 50% barrier.

    Santorum weathered the sort of storm in Michigan that Gingrich faced in Florida and he weathered it in Romney’s homestate. 3 weeks ago Santorum wasn’t even competiting in Michigan. It was rated as noncompetitive and he almost won.

    Next week if Romney wins Ohio and Newt wins Tennessee and Oklahoma then we can pass over Santorum. But that’s not going to happen, Santorum’s going to win all 3.

  • Whacker77

    The Romney people have given up trying to convince the party he’s a conservative who can unite everyone. Now, they’re left to say it’s all about delegates and scortched earth, Dreden style bombing of the opponents.

    And by the way, don’t accuse me of being a Santorum guy. He stinks, but I thought he provided the best route towards getting a new candidate who wouldn’t embarrass and infuriate the party.

  • clowngirl

    It’s unrealistic to think that voters will now not care about a candidate’s ability to speak or connect and now care only about their record.

  • Ender

    Helps your case better than 9%.

  • acat

    Please show me, instead, why I should ignore data like this:

    I find your assertion regarding Romney not going retrograde to be a very thin reed in the face of such.

    Mew

  • hls87

    So what? The fact remains, he can’t close the deal. He lost by about 9 points among self-identified Republicans which should tell you something. The GOP is progressive enough to nominate Romney. It isn’t crazy enough to nominate Santorum. When the issue is truly joined, most Republicans won’t pull the lever for him. It’s as simple as that and it isn’t at all surprising.

    Washed up former Senators who were part of the deeply unpopular George W. Bush era Republican congressional leadership are not potential Presidents. Santorum doesn’t have the stature to be a plausible presidential candidate. The fact that he also lacks the crucial ability to stay on message is just an extra nail in his candidacy’s already well-sealed coffin. Santorum is just window-dressing. He disguises the uncomfortable fact that this nomination contest was over before it got started.

  • minister_of_war

    … I have never heard such great cheer-leading for Democrats and Obama before. Not even Lawrence O’Donnell cheers for Obama as loudly as you just did in this post.

    You talk up the economy so much. Most still think that the economy is doing very, very badly. And they are right. If the economy went from very, very, very btad to just very, very bad, most voters aren’t going to notice much. They are still looking for work. And Obama still trails Romney in many general election polls.

    Now, obviously, your attempt at pretending that you’re a Republican in order to try to destroy the Republican Party from within has done some damage to Romney, a.k.a. a prolonged Primary contest, but once he clinches the nomination, we will have forgotten about this primary battle and be laser focused on defeating your economic champion Obama in the General Election. If this election has taught us anything it’s that voters forget things rather quickly. For example, when was the last time that you thought about Iowa Caucuses, or New Hampshire or even Florida’s primaries? I won’t ask about South Carolina, because I think that you’re still stuck in the South Carolina Primary time warp.

    Erick, I’m not sure when & why you got so far off base in your seething hatred of Romney, but chances are that Mitt Romney will be the Republican nominee for President & if RedState still even wants to pretend that they still support Republican candidates & causes, you’re going to have to get off this ridiculous kick that you’ve been on ever since the beginning of this election when you were sure that your first White Knight, Rick Perry, would come in & save the day.

    As Don Rumsfield once said about the Armed Forces, “?You go to war with the Army you have, not the Army you might want or wish to have at a later time? It’s time for you, Erick, to get your head out of the clouds, to stop hoping for an unnecessary & impossible rescue from our current candidate field & to come back down to Earth. You’re either fighting for the Republican cause or you’re actually hurting it.

  • goodgovernance

    I find it funny you’re telling us all to switch over to general campaign mode, and yet you think calling Obama a Kenyan is going to reflect well on the party in the fall.

    You’ve got no idea what the fall is going to bring, and what it takes to win in a general campaign. Independents and swing voters aren’t going to like this kind of talk. Romney supporters will assist Romney in his own downfall, just as they helped accomplish that in 2008 when they called McCain a “songbird.”

    The good news, as Erick stated, is this is Romney’s last run at the presidency. He’ll be gone for good.

  • mizzou1776

    And lost VA & NC! Hell of a strategy. Not confronting obama equals four more (5 inside obama’s numbskull) years to undermine traditional America. We are on the cusp of “Amerika”.

  • joeydavis

    Because like everyone else in the political class, he misread the tea leaves.

    When he pulled out Santorum’s Iowa win seemed like a fluke and SC had the attention. Perry saw Newt winning in South Carolina and being the best chance to take Romney down.

    He was wrong and if he had it to do over again (without looking stupid) he would most likely stay neutral or support Santorum.

  • lemmi

    Establishment republicans push Romney on electability I don’t think they have a clue as to who the so called moderates are. Near the end of each election it is common to see about 10% undecided voters, these are the people you go to lunch with and they can never decide what to order, they ask everyone else what they are going to order before finally deciding. They are easily influenced. When deciding how to vote they want to know how everyone else is voting. When a party has a candidate that the base responds to by saying, I guess I’ll hold my nose and vote for him the undecided “moderate” will probably go for the other candidate

  • blato

    Notwithstanding vigorous attacks from the Left and Right, no one appears able to dislodge Romney from limping towards nomination. Why? Because no one is really ready. With all his weaknesses, Romney has been by far the best prepared for this run.

    I think it is amazing that with all the vitriol that has been chucked at him, Romney is still standing. His opposition has been woefully ill prepared to compete nationally. Both Santorum and Gingrich, have to choose the states in which they think they can compete. That is not a strategy for winning a nomination – just for trying to hobble a frontrunner. The fact that neither of them has been able to keep up with Romney’s fundraising is evidence that their is little real passion for either of them. All the passion is like EE’s – directed against Romney.

    What oppo research is left to throw at Romney? I think everything is already out there, unless they want to attack his religion explicitly. Good luck with that – I expect it will bring more to his defense. Those that would vote against Romney simply because he is a Mormon have already made up their minds.

  • Aaron Gardner

    nt

  • okpensfan

    Zero looks great when up against minus one. If Obama were any better, I’d say we have no chance. Kill the messenger if you want, but EE’s right – why would independent voters be motivated to rally behind zero? It’s depressing – we should be able to win with anybody we put up this year and we have nothing to show for it.

  • keithe

    I keep saying this over and over, Romney folks are deluding themselves by relying on national polls which show Romney slightly ahead or slightly behind Obama. The popular vote does not, repeat, does not matter. All that matters is 270 electoral votes. Mitt Romney can win extra millions of votes in CA, MA, IL, and NY but it amounts to diddly squat because WE ARE GOING TO LOSE THOSE STATES ANYWAY.

    Let’s assume that Romney wins all the McCain states, which he should (only MO is iffy, but I think we win it). Thats 180 – he needs to add 90 EVs. Let’s give him IN, FL and NV. That takes him to 226. What’s left? CO, NM, VA, NC, IA, WI, MI, OH, PA, NH. Tell me which of those this guy can win? I can’t see VA, NC, NM, MI, or PA. VA and NC are comprised of an older dixie population that sees Romney as not conservative enough and a newer northern population that likes Obama. NM is not going republican, the demographic changes there make it impossible. MI and PA? Forget it. EE is right about Romney’s vulnerability in his “home” state. If we take those off, Romney must win every single state left (CO, IA, WI, OH, NH). If he loses even one small state like NH, the best he can do is tie. But Romney didn’t even win the primaries in IA or CO, Obama is ahead in NH and WI, and I’m willing to bet Romney will lose the primary in OH too. It seems exceedingly unlikely that he is going to win all these states. He doesn’t have natural appeal to blue collar midwestern america. Let’s face it, Romney is a candidate with regional appeal in states that we are either guaranteed to win (the rockies) or guaranteed to lose (the northeast). Maybe if he adds the right Veep he can help himself, but I think the impact of veeps is overestimated. They can help with one state, but can a veep deliver 5? No chance.

    In particular, I think Romney supporters underestimate the impact of Romney’s wealth and his well-heeled demeanor. Of course its no issue to me and probably most of you – we celebrate wealth and success. But its a sensitive issue to many Americans who are predisposed to resent or distrust wealthy people, particularly those who are perceived to have inherited it. Americans tend to like wealthy people who started with nothing, and kept it “real” even after achieving success (think Sam Walt). They don’t like generational wealth and REALLY don’t like people who seem to flaunt wealth – I think that feeling is sewn into the fabric of America, that we are a nation of “rugged individualism”; that we all make our own way. Romney’s story is an unpopular narrative. That may be unfair, wrong, or blasphemy to capitalists like you and me – but its just the way it is.

    I agree with EE. We need a different candidate. I still think that Santorum and Gingrich stand at least as good a chance of getting to 270 even though they would fare worse with the overall popular vote, by mobiling socons in the industrial states and VA/NC. In other words, putting back the coalition of states that elected Bush twice. But its very iffy, and both these guys sufffer from foot in mouth disease (actually, all 4 of our candidates do).

    I don’t know if Jindal is the answer. I think Jeb Bush is. People seem to think that the surname “Bush” kills him. I don’t agree. Once the general public sees this guy for 10 minutes they will realize he’s no W. He is a far better candidate. And don’t forget that Bush DID win, twice. His electoral record is far better than Romney’s.

  • keithe

    I keep saying this over and over, Romney folks are deluding themselves by relying on national polls which show Romney slightly ahead or slightly behind Obama. The popular vote does not, repeat, does not matter. All that matters is 270 electoral votes. Mitt Romney can win extra millions of votes in CA, MA, IL, and NY but it amounts to diddly squat because WE ARE GOING TO LOSE THOSE STATES ANYWAY.

    Let’s assume that Romney wins all the McCain states, which he should (only MO is iffy, but I think we win it). Thats 180 – he needs to add 90 EVs. Let’s give him IN, FL and NV. That takes him to 226. What’s left? CO, NM, VA, NC, IA, WI, MI, OH, PA, NH. Tell me which of those this guy can win? I can’t see VA, NC, NM, MI, or PA. VA and NC are comprised of an older dixie population that sees Romney as not conservative enough and a newer northern population that likes Obama. NM is not going republican, the demographic changes there make it impossible. MI and PA? Forget it. EE is right about Romney’s vulnerability in his “home” state. If we take those off, Romney must win every single state left (CO, IA, WI, OH, NH). If he loses even one small state like NH, the best he can do is tie. But Romney didn’t even win the primaries in IA or CO, Obama is ahead in NH and WI, and I’m willing to bet Romney will lose the primary in OH too. It seems exceedingly unlikely that he is going to win all these states. He doesn’t have natural appeal to blue collar midwestern america. Let’s face it, Romney is a candidate with regional appeal in states that we are either guaranteed to win (the rockies) or guaranteed to lose (the northeast). Maybe if he adds the right Veep he can help himself, but I think the impact of veeps is overestimated. They can help with one state, but can a veep deliver 5? No chance.

    In particular, I think Romney supporters underestimate the impact of Romney’s wealth and his well-heeled demeanor. Of course its no issue to me and probably most of you – we celebrate wealth and success. But its a sensitive issue to many Americans who are predisposed to resent or distrust wealthy people, particularly those who are perceived to have inherited it. Americans tend to like wealthy people who started with nothing, and kept it “real” even after achieving success (think Sam Walt). They don’t like generational wealth and REALLY don’t like people who seem to flaunt wealth – I think that feeling is sewn into the fabric of America, that we are a nation of “rugged individualism”; that we all make our own way. Romney’s story is an unpopular narrative. That may be unfair, wrong, or blasphemy to capitalists like you and me – but its just the way it is.

    I agree with EE. We need a different candidate. I still think that Santorum and Gingrich stand at least as good a chance of getting to 270 even though they would fare worse with the overall popular vote, by mobiling socons in the industrial states and VA/NC. In other words, putting back the coalition of states that elected Bush twice. But its very iffy, and both these guys sufffer from foot in mouth disease (actually, all 4 of our candidates do).

    I don’t know if Jindal is the answer. I think Jeb Bush is. People seem to think that the surname “Bush” kills him. I don’t agree. Once the general public sees this guy for 10 minutes they will realize he’s no W. He is a far better candidate. And don’t forget that Bush DID win, twice. His electoral record is far better than Romney’s.

  • redmymind

    That’s exactly it. Did you see the gleeful faces lastnight on Fox regarding MI & AZ? They are SO in the tank with with that bag of establishment crap!

  • annas

    Is to tell the lunch guy what makes our party better, not sit on your hands and decry that our candidate was not your first choice!

  • minister_of_war

    n/t

  • Aaron Gardner

    n/t

  • Aaron Gardner

    ntnt

  • mizzou1776

    “Banning” is the politics of PC & Bloomberg. If RS policy supports this it must be to exclude false-flag posting. It is obvious the above mentioned is not one. We are stuck supporting the stupid party, for now. It may be that if obama has a second term a major realignment occurs. It is a very dark prospect but our country is being redefined & the people must act. Only grassroots rejection of a secular & social democrat transformation at the ballot box will do. Perhaps we must come to the brink for this to happen.

  • joeydavis

    Last night in his speech Santorum opened with his mom, his wife and his daughter in a clear reach to Independent women.

    I made the comment to my girlfriend that he was making an obvious play. She asked if I thought that was a good idea. The political pundit in me wanted to jump up and down and say “yes, yes, yes!!!” But then common sense took over…

    Duh, I’m a guy, you’re a girl, you tell me if he needs to appeal more to women. Her answer, and it appears ragstoriches answer, is he’s doing just fine.

    Sometimes, when trying to figure out what a woman wants, it’s best to simply ask the quiet woman in the corner doing her job, raising her kids and minding her manners. After all, the woman screaming into the microphone isn’t on your side any way and the rest are well…. men. We’ve proven time and again throughout history we don’t know what women are thinking.

  • Repair_Man_Jack

    Now, obviously, your attempt at pretending that you?re a Republican in order to try to destroy the Republican Party from within has done some damage to Romney, a.k.a. a prolonged Primary contest, but once he clinches the nomination, we will have forgotten about this primary battle and be laser focused on defeating your economic champion Obama in the General Election

    We may have to flush twice after that. It could strain the compressors on our air freshener.

  • acat

    Just confirming the RoE. (grin)

    Mew

  • salemst

    Romney’s only changed his position on abortion back in 2003-2004. He’s the same guy who ran in 2008–same platforms.

    Let’s look at Romney’s political landscape in Massachusetts……145-15 Democrat House majority, 35-5 Democrat Senate majority, not enough Republicans to sustain his 842 vetoes in four years, a liberal state Supreme Court, and a voter registration of 42% Democrat, 42% Independent, and 14% Republican.

    He cut taxes 19 times, took a $3 Billion shortfall and turned it into a $2 Billion surplus, lowered unemployment from 7.4% to 4.6%, fought against expanded abortion rights and vetoed a cloning/stem cill bill, plus fought against homosexual marriage.

    People her should realize……it’s just as conservative to fight against liberalism in a liberal state as Massachusetts as it is to advance conservatism in a conservative state as Texas.

    Think about it.

  • redmymind

    If that’s what folks want, so be it. Four more years of BHO-SE (supercharged and emboldened).

    As for “inevitability,” that’s a case being made for Obama.

  • salemst

    Newt’s flip flopped on global warming with Pelosi, called Ryan’s budget “right wing engineering,” amnesty for illegals here a specified period of time, and that’s only a few.

    How can an ethically challenged immoral serial adulterer as the GOP equivalent to Bill Clinton be a “conservative hero?” I’m sure he won’t be championing traditional Judeo-Christian values very soon. He’s but a recycled Washington career politican getting rich off the government.

    Some “conservative hero.”

  • Professor de la Paz

    An economic catastrophe probably will happen, and even if it doesn’t, people understand that the job market isn’t in recovery. I think, EE, you’re overplaying the effect of the “official” recovery numbers, which everyone knows are BS.

  • SoFiMil

    Do you believe he’s the *only* Republican candidate that can beat Obama? If so, the descriptive title “conservative” is not only ridiculously inaccurate, but also superfluous and irrelevant. If he’s the only candidate that can win, touting his alleged conservative credentials serves what purpose (other than attempting to convince discerning consetvatives that Romney’s a “serious conservative.”

  • wantthegopback

    Nt

  • clintonformccain

    if it were against “the establishment”. Or Sharon Angle. Or Rick Santorum. It’s one thing to vote for conservative principles, but the complete lack of differentiation between a qualified candidate and a “joke” candidate is undermining the effort.

  • minister_of_war

    … but I can’t even access comments that I may have made on here back in August anymore.

    Plus, I’m not complaining about people on here attacking other candidates. I’m just saying that it gets old after a while when any win is spinned by Erick into an actual loss & at some point, if we want to win in November, we’ve got to deal with the fact that it looks increasingly likely that Romney is going to be our eventual nominee. And if things play out like they appear more & more likely that they will, at that point, Erick’s either got to be for Romney or for Obama’s reelection. It’s actually pretty simple.

    Erick’s constant criticism of Romney on CNN & here at RedState is starting to remind me more & more of Baghdad Bob because it just doesn’t pass the reality test. And case in point, even if Bobby Jindal were to jump into this race today (which he won’t do), Jindal wouldn’t even be able to get on many of the ballots & would have no chance at winning because of that alone. Erick’s head is way up in the clouds & he’s starting to look like a fool because of it. Just look at the way the other people on CNN just sit around & snicker at Erick when he talks about Romney because of it. They realize that Erick is only hurting his own cause & he doesn’t even know it.

  • wantthegopback

    If America will elect a black guy we’ll elect a Mormon. Take your victimhood narrative and go pound sand, no ones buyin’

  • littlehouse18

    If Mitt is the nominee, we are likely toast unless he picks a VP who can assuage the bad feelings that his attitudes and campaign have engendered. To my mind those are Ryan, Jindal, Rubio, Santorum, or Gingrich – ie conservatives. My fear is that he’ll pick a bland moderate such as McDonnell, rub it in, and ruin our chances. Christie would make things interesting, but I don’t think Romney really wants a veep who will completely upstage him.

    Romney just said again that we shouldn’t be attacking Obama so much. In other words, he wants to run a McCain campaign. This was extremely disheartening. If BHO weren’t awful, I would be very hard-pressed to pull the lever for Romney, much less campaign for him. Now I’m faced with the possibility of arguing for someone I don’t believe in – don’t think that will be too effective.

    In the extremely unlikely event of a ‘brokered’ convention, I see only Ryan or Rubio as possibilities that people would rally behind, since they were first-choices to begin with.

  • http://www.nighttwister.com NightTwister

    Who knew?

    Colorado State Primary June 26,2012 7:00 AM-7:00 PM

    I was pretty sure time travel hasn’t been figured out yet.

  • minister_of_war

    nt

  • SoFiMil

    That would give us a truer indication of the debth of Romney’s support.

  • Professor de la Paz

    A huge part of Ron Paul’s support, I would hazard to say most of it, comes from folks 25 years old or younger. Hence the “millennial problem” social conservative statists whine about when faced with an incorporation of libertarian ideas into the future of the GOP. Ron Paul’s problem is that nobody twenty five and older will vote for him.

  • Patrish

    OMG Erick! You wrote:
    “Seriously, putting it bluntly, conservatives may not like Barack Obama, but most other people do. ”

    So, in your D.C. centric lifestyle you get the sense that most people like Barack Obama. You know what, that may be true in the District, but not everywhere else. Time for a vacation Erick. That, or go back to practicing law.

  • acat

    It’s still worth about as much as a pitcher of warm spit.

    There’s a rumbling that Romney wants Norm Coleman for HHS… and Norm thinks Obamacare is just spiffy. Norm also lost his Senate seat by not effectively contesting the recount in a race that was entirely winnable…

    I’m less interested in who Romney picks for veep, I want to know who he wants for his cabinet.. If Norm Coleman is Romney’s idea of “the right stuff” .. we’re going to need a better Congress.

    Mew

  • Aaron Gardner

    But then you wouldn’t be able to attack Erick on his own site and prove how smart you are.

  • acat

    how well is it working out for ya?

    Mew

  • clintonformccain

    It’s not Mitt Romney’s fault that the right wing of the Republican Party failed to identify and/or support a credible qualified conservative candidate. They have flitted from one obvious non-starter to the next (Bachmann, Cain, Gingrich, Santorum), most of whom where nothing but mirages.

    If the problem is an inability to attract qualified conservative candidates into the race, than that problem needs to be addressed. If the problem is a lack of qualified conservatives, then that’s a more serious short-coming. Perhaps the conservative wing needs to pay attention when strong potential candidates like Rubio or Jeb Bush talk about not being comfortable with some of the rhetoric of the conservative wing. You don’t want to end up with a situation where the only conservative candidates you can attract are fringe candidates like a Sharon Angle or a Mike Huckabee or a Rick Santorum or obviously not prepared (like Herman Cain on foreign policy).

  • http://www.timothy-bladel.com/ center77

    and a host of other little goodies.

  • usedtobelib

    just what part you have played in making it easy for Dems to paint the guy this way.

    If you were being honest with yourself, you’d face up to the fact that the others who have run are so flawed as candidates that they couldn’t get the BIG MONEY to compete, yet the guy who has stuck it out is the one you pummel. Others didn’t get in when the going looked to be tough; others got out when the going got tough.

    Ask yourself why money isn’t POURING in, and hasn’t from the beginning for people like Bachmann, Santorum,, Gingrich, Pawlenty Perry, et al. Why didn’t GOPers ( I avoided the word “base” since a certain segment of GOPers have claimed only THEY are the base, as if the rest of us Republicans who’ve chosen a different candidate dare not consider ourselves a part of THE BASE so low are we in your estimation–talk about how a portion of the party has demeaned the other….hell, everybody can learn how to blow up a party from so many on this site).

    Ask yourself what flaws of character or what lack of courage or what fear of failure kept others from running.

    The meme that has been created has been created by a portion of the party–the media is simply repeating it.

    It’s just really hard for me to accept that the bad-mouthing has come from within and spread outward . You keep harping on the thinness of support: well, dammit, if you think the leader’s support is thin, then what the hell has support for his opponents been.

    Time to be man.

  • funwithknives

    affected the results. Increase in totals can and most probably are affected by this Most Important Election Cycle. Entertain the thought that many more are going to be affected by *Barry and Associates*,and he has pulled back the curtain on his aims, for all of us to see.
    ‘ Fright’ is a very good motivator and Progressives GAVE it to us.How it is used { as a tool to encouage Freedom and Liberty oriented voters} will in large part determine 11/6/2012. So far this is a weakness , as the Nat’l GOP is not used to a street fight,and this cycle surely IS That.
    Plus, there is the empty wallet thing, the deficit thing, foreign affairs, energy…. So where is the GOP doing backround ads for our side of this debate? Pick a Topic, any Topic!….

  • keithe

    Thanks, Romney’s path to victory is now clear to me.

  • westcoastpatriette

    It’s like discussing which pile of puke you would prefer. After all, they are all better than the puke in the White House, right?

    The longer this goes on, the less I am able to answer the question in the affirmative. I need to focus elsewhere and let the chips fall where they may. With respect to the White House, we are in a no-win situation no matter who wins.

  • Spartan4Life

    No worries. A minor setback.

    We could learn quite a bit from this year’s version of the Spartans. Overachievers with a lunch pail work ethic. Go Green!

  • aesthete

    McCain and his acolytes have not had a worsening of their material situation — in fact, no one involved with this strategy has lost a meal or a paycheck in quite a while. “The truth is, party leaders have been feasting on the intellectual appeal of small government and the hard work of the rank and file since Reagan’s departure — and certainly prior to that, as well. While I don’t begrudge moderates their seat at the table, our leadership does not need to be moderate in nature. Only idiots like D Brooks get excited about the idea of managing government spending and America’s decline gracelessly under the GOP — at least Democrats manage a certain enthusiasm for their craft. The GOP cannot survive by being a “me too” party, and is currently alive as a major party due solely to the sufferance of conservatives: if it hadn’t been for the Tea Party, we would still be talking about Obama’s Congress majorities.

    This is a status quo that works just fine for GOP party leaders, because they have more interest in their own sinecure than the status of their party or their country. Until their re-elections, and their revenue stream, are directly tied to their performance as conservatives, this trend will persist.

  • Spartan4Life

    Oh, wait. He can’t even deliver Pennsylvania. Never mind.

  • funwithknives

    this *Orange County* you speak of.
    Where is it, exactly?? Florida? California?

  • http://www.timothy-bladel.com/ center77

    he is a candidate that really could unite this Party. Under these circumstances, I’d say we would be lucky if he even thought about getting in.

    Newt is not coming back to win this, regardless if he has another run, imagine how bad Obama would be able to destroy him with character assassination, Romney did, on the the cheap.

  • Spartan4Life

    This is one of the biggest myths out there about Obama. The fact that EE has bought into it is further proof that he is off his rocker on this primary process.

    Obama is not a likable guy. He is vain, arrogant, petulant, dishonest, etc. Last time I checked those were not high on the likability quotient. He may be “liked” by hardcore Dem partisans but I think that is about as far as it goes.

  • gwbramhall

    Seriously, putting it bluntly, conservatives may not like Barack Obama, but most other people do. And when faced with a guy you like and a guy you don?t like who says he can fix an economy that no longer needs fixing, you?re going to go with the guy you like.

    EE, you have to be kidding to think that this economy will improve enough
    by November to turn around the resentments of the people put out of work
    by this president’s policies. Most are still afraid as hell of ObamaCare and
    what it will do to our health system to say nothing what it will do our businesses
    that will have to struggle to keep up with its additional costs and mandates.
    The price of gas will be an albatross around the neck of this President and
    there are plenty of examples how he let it get this way if not encouraged it.
    There is no amount of money the Democrats can spend that will put perfume
    on the turd that they have laid. Romney is as good as we are going to
    get. To expect a white knight to come in and rescue our Party for us is
    both naive and stupid.

  • Aaron Gardner

    .nt.

  • lemmi

    The Republican establishment is trying to shove Romney down the throats of the republican voters because he supposedly can get the moderates “electability”. I don’t think they have a clue who the so called moderates are. They are the people you go to lunch with that can never decide what to order, they ask everyone else what they are ordering before finally making up their minds. They are easily influenced. Towards the end of every election they are the 10% who are undecided, when they hear their conservative friends say there going to hold their nose and vote for the republican candidate they are likely to go for the other candidate. A party who doesn’t have the base on board is doomed to fail

  • http://www.examiner.com/x-1597-Charlotte-Law--Politics-Examiner Mike gamecock DeVine

    The logo for my SC hometown is the same as MSU, as is the logo for the now USC Upstate Spartans fka USC-Spartanburg Rifles, whose name was changed for politically correct reasons. The name of the city is due to the Spartan Rifles led by Gen Daniel Morgan that defeated Tarleton’s redcats in the battles of Cowpens and Kings Mountain, which losses weakened the British before Yorktown.

  • joeydavis

    If you have looked at an electoral map, you’ll know Romney is not electable.

    To win the White House you have to have a roadmap to 270.

    The only McCain ’08 state in play is Missouri. Santorum definitely wins Missouri, Romney may not. But let’s assume he does and let’s assume he takes Indiana (Santorum definitely wins there). That means we have 191 of 270.

    Santorum’s path is working class white socially conservative Democrats (a demographic unfavorable to Obama, but not reachable by Romney). Those voters are in NC, VA, PA, OH and IA, all considered tossups. That gives Santorum 72 tossup delegates and 263 EVs.

    He needs to find 7 more from either unfavorable tossups or lean blue states. Wisconsin (10) and Minnesota (10) both have the demographics favorable to Santorum’s coalition. That gives him the potential of 283 EVs without playing in Florida, Colorado, Nevada, New Mexico or New Hampshire. Still he should be competitive in Florida and Colorado giving him the potential for 321 EVs.

    Romney’s path is much different. He’s going to have to lean heavily on Independent and upper class voters (Obama’s strongest class). Those voters are in Florida, Colorado, New Hampshire and Nevada among tossup states. That gives Romney 48 tossup delegates and 239 EVs

    He needs to find 31 EVs from unfavorable tossup states or lean blue states. He could be expected to find support maybe in Maine and New Mexico, 9 total delegates and maybe Minnesota for 10 more but that still leaves him a dozen short, meaning he needs a Michigan or Massachusetts and some help.

    In other words, it’s a whole lot easier to construct a Santorum map than a Romney map.

  • littlehouse18

    Some people thrive off an audience and just have a hard time speaking well when the only listener is a camera. Paul Ryan had a better response, but he too was hampered by the staging. McDonnell’s SOTU response was good, but it was in front of an audience, probably an adjustment based on Jindal’s performance the year before.

  • http://www.hickpolitics.com Dave Poff (haystack)

    … you are exactly right.

    In the minds, not of those already planning to vote against Obama but, of the truly undecideds and independents out there still sorting through the rubble that IS the GOP cannibalism of 2012, there is no compelling reason *not* to stick with what’s already in place.

    The economy…in the minds of many of those same indies… IS, in fact, improving even if only by the measure of it not tanking further. Then, there is the rise in the stock market, and stabilization/moderate improvements in many of the other major indicators including the one inre: jobs which are, by and large, stable (however much better we all wish they’d be).

    Romney’s barely-successful run at MI says a great deal more about the GOP as a whole than it does solely about the candidate himself; no one can agree on a [expletive removed in deference to the posting guidelines] thing in this mess any more, and these primaries bear this out.

    At least the Dems are together (however loosely assembled) and they only need sit back and pop the corn…laughing and mocking… as implosion unfolds in slo-mo.

    Romney will be the nominee in the end, the Republicans (even if I’m wrong about Romney) once again can not stand up an adequate, capable, and competent opponent (see McCain, John), and-as a result of all this mess-there is every likelihood that the GOP downlines (especially in the Senate) are going to go right over the cliff *and* return power to the Dems in the House.

    All because of what…exactly…that inability to displace Bush Republicanism with something better than Obama Liberalism (if I recall your earlier point on that topic correctly)?

    Probably…but what do I know-I’m an #indy predisposed to hate both sides of this mess anymore. :)

  • http://www.examiner.com/x-1597-Charlotte-Law--Politics-Examiner Mike gamecock DeVine

    But i agree that Obama and the MSM can’t fool the public re the ongoing ObamaDem Depression but I see calling him out on it as Red Meat and when all Romney wants to do is suggest that the reason Obama is “failing” is his lack of experience, rather than saying the truth that Obama is succeeding given that he got passed all the legislation he needed to fundamentally transform America in the Liberal’s vision of success, ie more dependents on government, then I see the one candidate that could blow this easy election.

  • http://www.examiner.com/x-1597-Charlotte-Law--Politics-Examiner Mike gamecock DeVine

    Gamecocks, Clemson Tigers, Ramblin’ Wreck and Dawgs all stink…

  • funwithknives

    test the waters and see how many actively shun it and palm you off with : “…I don’t talk politics…”
    Not wanting, to the point of active avoidance, is to me Kinda’ Telling. *The Three Monkeys*, is not a belief system, nor a way to live your life. But more and more, Cracks Appear, and it is a bit alarming.

  • http://www.examiner.com/x-1597-Charlotte-Law--Politics-Examiner Mike gamecock DeVine

    t

  • joeydavis

    Oakland Co.

    Didn’t change the fact, just goofed on the name.

  • http://www.examiner.com/x-1597-Charlotte-Law--Politics-Examiner Mike gamecock DeVine

    teeea

  • bgintn

    Two other things to throw into this mix as they will affect us here.

    Is the Great Euro experiment is coming to an end?

    Is Germany going to do all it can to force Greece out of the Euro before March 20th (the date that the next round of Greek debt is due) or will simply pull out of the Euro (but not the EU) itself?

    German CEOs, voters, and even the courts, are increasingly wanting out of the Euro.

    Is Germany ready to walk out of the Euro at any point?
    Most people don’t have a clue about this as the mainstream media has completely ignored this development.

    And the currency changes in China this coming summer.

  • rightland1111

    I know that I am not in the minority. Do you know how frightened I am? I bet as much as many of you. I am watching this happen and I can’t believe a person that graduated at the top of his class can be SO STUPID.

    Husband and I went to the store last night. His remarks…as I am sure you have heard in your households…I am directing this to all RedState people is this…how are we going to keep up with this? It use to take $60 for us to put a few items in the grocery cart…now the bill comes to over $100. Our gasoline is over $3.65 per gallon. We stay home…we can’t afford to go anywhere because we want to save our money to survive. Inflation…according to Obama’s calculations does not include food and energy!!! Excuse me…that’s about all I spend $$ on. I can’t put any of our savings in the Stock Market to keep up with inflation…because it is like a yo yo and with the Euro imploding weekly…I’m too scared.

    Now…we have Coleman who thinks Obamacare is spiffy? It’s a mandate…it’s unconstitutional…and we have people…representing us…that vote AGAINST our well being.

    It is really no surprise about Romney and Coleman…this is how the man governs and this is why he is going to lose…there is no decernable difference between Obama and Romney. I don’t know if people like Obama…up here…they hate him…but they aren’t in love with Romney either.

  • JSobieski

    I am not asserting the sincerity of voters, nor vouching for their sincerity.

    My point is that people take the numbers to reach determinations with a false level of precision.

  • keithe

    (1) the MSM is not successful in convincing everyone we are in recovery; and (2) people blame Obama instead of Bush and congress for our economic woes. As for point one, we find ourselves in a catch 22 of rooting for a bad economy (which already is one of the Obama team’s themes, that Republicans want the economy to be bad to enhance their chances of winning). As for point two, it seems silly to you and me, but it will be a big argument in November and we have to convince lots of other people that Obama is the problem. And Erik is right, a certain percentage vote for the personality they like; and Romney/Obama is not a good matchup to get those folks.

  • keithe

    (1) the MSM is not successful in convincing everyone we are in recovery; and (2) people blame Obama instead of Bush and congress for our economic woes. As for point one, we find ourselves in a catch 22 of rooting for a bad economy (which already is one of the Obama team’s themes, that Republicans want the economy to be bad to enhance their chances of winning). As for point two, it seems silly to you and me, but it will be a big argument in November and we have to convince lots of other people that Obama is the problem. And Erik is right, a certain percentage vote for the personality they like; and Romney/Obama is not a good matchup to get those folks.

  • JSobieski

    Asserting that anyone is acting in bad faith just because they disagree with your assessment is a leftist tactic.

    Sometimes people disagree on things.

  • littlehouse18

    People complain that the faith angle is deadly for Santorum, but ignore that it is an even bigger problem for Romney. The media will unfairly play this up to the hilt and turn Mormonism into Scientology. They’ve just been holding back until they can assure a Romney nomination. They can’t do it quite the same way with Catholicism because Catholicism is mainstream.

  • http://www.timothy-bladel.com/ center77

    I suspect that had something to do with it. I like Newt, I look minus baggage, he is the ideal conservative representative. But, I just think its clear that a little bit of negative advertisement, he seems to fall. Iowa, Florida.

    I think Jindal could pull enough support from all segments of the party, and he would be in much better shape heading into the gen. Until then, I hope Newt comes back, but I’m not counting on it.

  • fightnright

    Even if conservatives come up with a top-tier, litmus test, brilliant statesman to run, he probably could not sew up enough coalitions to win the presidency as the country is not at present a far right wing nation.

    And what with the neo-Marxist generational plan of ‘evolution not revolution’ in tilting this country left by dumbing down the populace with a life-denying, trash pop culture; indoctrination of youth by the leftist academy, the importation of non-assimilating immigrant groups with neither interest in nor respect for our founding principles or our moral/spiritual heritage; the pacifying of the masses (and those immigrant groups) with immediate benefit programs including free food, shelter, (liberal) educations, medical care, and senior retirement funding – our problem of electing a foundational and constitutional values POTUS grows more distant every day.

    It’s going to take many years of educational and institutional change to convince folks that human freedom and independence is defined and achieved through self-direction, study, responsibility, hard work, and long-term commitment to life goals. Unfortunately, to many of our newest generations of entitled youth and coddled newcomers, the price of freedom emphasizes what comes to them ‘free’ over the protection of personal liberties.

    The long slow process of re-introducing the electorate to the authentic America, if it is not to be lost, will also take what the liberals have relied on in achieving the leftist dream: generational evolution from the ground up, and not a top-down revolution which -ironically – can never be imposed because of the freedoms granted to American voters.

    Winning the moderates and convincing them by experience that *prosperity in any nation is a by-product of freedom* is the first step in reaching the conservative dream.

  • glorybee

    Never count Izzo out in March & this is his best team in years, even if they did get outplayed on the road in their fifth game in 2 weeks.

  • rightland1111

    Perry lost in Iowa because he did not back ethanol subsidies. Money trumped God for VanderPlatts.

    South Carolina…Newt won big because of what he said in the debates, taking on King.

    Had Perry spent more time in SC…and not gotten out…there would have been a different story…. I believe.

  • joeydavis

    But he stuck the shotgun in his own mouth and blew his own head off. He’s deade under the Dan Quayle rule.

    Bobby Jindal is not ready for prime time.

    There are three and ONLY THREE with the package capable of riding to the rescue now and two of them are sketchy.

    Jeb Bush and Haley Barbour have the national networks available to raise the money and build the organization capable of succeeding.

    Bush would really have to overcome his last name and I don’t know that it’s possible to do so. Barbour was a very divisive Republican leader of the gingrich era. He may have some favorability issues with Independents.

    The only other contender is Jim Demint. His teaparty cred could carry him a long way.

    Past that, there’s no one left to fly the plane.

  • Repair_Man_Jack

    It was seared into my memory. Epic stuff from TCrown on that one.

  • http://www.nighttwister.com NightTwister

    Sorry to rain on your parade.

    FWIW, of the remaining candidates, Romney has the best chance to take Colorado in the General. Followed by Newt (probably wouldn’t) and Santorum (who would lose worse than McCain did in 2008).

  • http://www.BillBowenAuthor.com RightinSanFrancisco

    Here’s hoping that the Red State family takes a collective deep breath, and doesn’t try to project a death wish onto the country.

    Relative to Michigan, it is also useful to recognize that Romney’s principled stand against the auto bailout cost him some, as did the spending by the Obama campaign and their PAC in an effort to get the nomination for Rick S. Axelrod understands who the stronger opponent will be, even if social conservatives do not.

  • littlehouse18

    He deeply fears being called a racist, perhaps because of Mormon history. I suspect he felt bad about the Church’s position before 1978, and he just can’t get past that. As a result, he is a weak candidate.

  • redcal

    Run, don’t walk, to Intrade right now…the free market is pricing an Obama victory at 61% and a Romney victory at 32%, even after last night’s wins. If you really think Obama is toast, in fact, you won’t mind offering me 10:1 odds on a Romney victory.

    goodgovernance is spot-on. Obama hasn’t even started campaigning yet, and as we know from 2008, he is very, very good when he gets started. Beating McCain wasn’t all that impressive post-Bush, but beating Hillary in her own party was. Even after 3 years, independents in this country still like Obama personally and are around 49% approval, just at the level you’d want to start your re-election campaign. Romney’s approval rating with independents, who should love this centrist alternative to Obama? 29%.

    http://www.newsmax.com/Newsfront/favorability-Arizona-Michigan-primaries/2012/02/28/id/430880

    2008 was all about the economy going down. 2012 looks like it may be about the economy slowly recovering. Obama had the luckiest timing of any modern presidential candidate — he may be saved by the (cyclical) bell.

  • rightland1111

    I’m not talking about policies…I’m talking about behavior…presidential. What is there to like about him. He does not tell the truth…that has nothing to do with policy. He has thrown his supporters under the bus. He put America last instead of first. His appetite for spending should put America in a hate mode. Really, doc…people are out of work…and Obama goes on another vacation or spending x amount of dollars on this…or gives some fabulous dinner in honor of some NBA star. What is there to like about him? He does not like Whites (his book, his words); he is divisive.

    His policies are even more disturbing…but I am talking about the person. What are the attributes that people like about this guy…he has a nice voice????

  • funwithknives

    Look at commodity futures. Why are Treasury bonds yielding Zilch?Gold? Silver? Platnium?
    Printing money out of thin air really shows up when spending starts and all the hoarding of dollars gets released. More in circulation = less worth overall. Then the percieved value of the dollar{ the real milepost of worth, in our case} heads for the cellar and you get what you do not see, right now: Inflation. {Why do you think it is called The Hidden Tax?( ‘Cause right now, it is in hiding) }
    This is the self-same Administration that claims UnEmployment is going down and ignores the vast multitudes who simply Gave Up looking, and have experienced real anxiety,and futility.

    How many ‘Um’ s is that?

  • http://pocketchangeproductions.net/ anotherindyfilmguy

    I suspect the problem with that is neither one of their egos will go for it. Given that Santorum has been doing better than Gingrich I’d suggest Gingrich cut a deal to be VP where he’d likely be more effective at anyhow in my opinion.

  • jamesm

    Face it. If you look at history, the candidate that is well liked wins the majority of time. Romney supporters have their heads in the clouds. Reagan was personally likable. Jfk, Clinton and Bush(s) were both likable when first elected.

    The “stick in the mud” candidate loses. I.e Nixon, Ford, Dole, Kerry, Gore, McCain and potentially Romney. Republicans are plain stupid to nominate Romney.

  • ihateliberals

    After the 2012 election and before 2106 I would be willing to bet on a New Conservative party or we get rid of the Losers in the GOP now.

  • penhall99

    Mitt is most likely gonna be our nominee, That;s just the way things happened. I was a supporter of Rick Perry. He was the best candidate. But nobody wanted to vote for him after his mistakes (and YOU called on him to get out of the race). So we have Mitt. It’s time to stop the attacks on him. He won Michigan and Arizona with higher turnout than 2008. He CAN beat Obama, but only if conservatives stop destroying the man. Yes, we can give him constructive criticism and keep him in line. But destroying the man at every turn and saying he will lose to Obama is no the way to do things. The 2012 election is too important to throw away. Mitt will be better than Obama. Miles better. And that is worth voting for him.

  • littlehouse18

    Now, “Marxist/Alinskyite” is established fact. It’s not a conspiracy theory if it’s true.

  • clowngirl

    The debate has been cancelled. Is it possible to reschedule it? I don’t know.

    But if the debate went on as it should it would not only be possible but even *probable* that Newt would have a stellar performance in front of his home town crowd and see his numbers soar in Georgia, Tennessee, Oklahoma, Ohio and maybe even Idaho and that Santorum wouldn’t do well, then would fair badly and pretty much have to drop out and endorse Newt.

    As to your comment that Romney trashed Newt “on the cheap”? Hardly.

    $10-$15 million a state isn’t considered cheap for a Presidential primary.

    Newt’s daughter calculated the money spent trashing Newt in Iowa on a per vote basis, and said it would take (if I remember correctly) $5 billion to do that in a general election. And Obama wouldn’t have help from much of the conservative media as Romney did.

    And I think you’re grossly overestimating the willingness to consolidate behind Jindal. Jindal is well thought of among Republicans, and well liked by Rush Limbaugh- but most aren’t really all that familiar with him.

    You say he’s not a bad speaker. That’s debatable but even saying , for the sake of argument that he’s “not bad” . That’s light years away from being good enough to win.

    Show me a poll that shows 50% or more of Republicans supporting a hypothetical Jindal candidacy in a 5 way race. If you can do that, I might reconsider my POV. If not, then what evidence (if any) do you have that Jindal could unite Republicans behind his candidacy?

  • Scope

    You either have charisma or you don’t. You can’t fake it. The more Romney ties hard to sound likable, the more phony and weird he sounds. I guess that’s why his wife said that he will not be doing any more debates, and that she should be doing the talking. After Ann’s remarks that if you don’t vote for Mitt you’re stupid, earlier this year, I don’t see her being much more likable. It’s a tragedy, but we do live in an American Idol society, even when picking presidents. Obama has been singing, telling jokes, and hamming it up at his events. He is obviously aware of the intense dislike for Willard.

  • acat

    People will see what they want to see, there’s not a lot of “new clarity”.

    Well .. other than Santorum still hasn’t won a large, contested State.

    Mew

  • Scope

    Willard is destroying Mitt all by himself. I think it’s more than a little hypocritical to claim that other’s are destroying Mitt when his only way of winning is to completely and totally destroy his opponents with disgusting attack ads every hour on the hour, until the competition is good and dead. The only other one that even comes close to Willard’s scorched earth ads is Ron Paul, and Paul has already said he is only interested in gaining enough delegates to have a voice at the convention.

  • dennis1111

    The debt is growing fast. Regulations are growing fast. Double talk is growing faster.

    Houses are going down. dollar value is going down and the ecomomy is going downer.

    How can our RS hero say the economy is looking up. This is dubious double speak. If you mean the President is hyping the economy-that is not the same. If you mean the chorus has joined the hype-that is not the same. The economy is not looking up.

    The inflationist theory which von Mises denigrates as hype and invalid reasoning, also has a terrible history. Printing money and producing inflation makes booms followed by busts. We are in the middle of a terribly destructive crash right now and we are still printing money and writing bills with red ink.

    If our government bonds were not bought by created money, the awfull truth would be obvious. The USA is crumbling under inflationary pressures. Europe is falling ahead of us, as is China, so that makes us look good, But, we are not good. We are in a terrible fix.

    I would like to see a concerted effort to educate instead of a simplistic and false assertion that our economy is ok and improving. When we print enough money it does evebntually stimulate consumption. This is not creating wealth. This is creating debt. You cannot heal a failure to produce with debt. We must quit deficit spending, quit printing money and quit the will nilly ameliorating chatter. Money is not wealth. Production is wealth. Best, dlc

  • Common_Cents

    the deck is stacked in the media and nearly nobody calls them out.

    Paul Begala last night called Rush big and fat and big and fat. The entire panel chuckled.

    What if a conservative analyst called Moooshel O. big and fat? They’d be fired.

    It’s the hint of the long knives being sharpened ready to shred the GOP nominee in the general.

    The gloves have come off in nearly all the media, including CNN. CNN is more so not even trying to pretend to be somewhat neutral. Their masks are slipping with the daily smirks, snark, and ridicule of R’s and conservatives.

    I’ve noticed Erick is hardly defending conservatism but rather backing off and becoming a detached horse race commentator. I’m sure its tough when you are in a paid position and have moderates and liberals all around you.

    But CNN did hire you Erick as an unabashed grass roots conservative, lets see it! Take a look at the RS Mission statement again. We don’t need another Joe Scarborough on TV. We need a conservative intelligent Erick Erickson.

  • Common_Cents

    Perry has said Newt is going to sweep it. That plus GA and another southern state or two, along w/ a Santorum decline could give rise to another Gingrich surge. I guess we’ll find out next week if it’s in the cards.

  • Vegas_Rick

    He will not halt America’s decline, he will simply “manage it better.” This morn believes in automatic raises to the minimum wage. He thinks it’s ok to use taxpayer dollars to bailout deadbeat mortgage holders.

    He’s a big government elitist. We have enough of those.

    He will get my vote because I’m still in the ABO column. But I refuse to contribute or work for someone who is only going to slow our slide into socialism, at best.

    I also cannot bend my priciples enough to work for a liar.

  • clintonformccain

    t”with disgusting attack ads every hour on the hour, until the competition is good and dead” this fall. That would be swell, in my book.

    I like the fact that Romney has proved to be quite adept at scorched earth politics. It’s about darn time that somebody scortches Barack Obama’s earth, don’t you think?

  • sandollar

    This sure seems like a “best kept secret”. Per the NYT, Newt, Santorum, & Romney will be attending his forum in Ohio. I haven’t been to fox news.com to see if it’s listed.
    More info here

    http://thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.com/2012/02/28/huckabee-will-host-a-presidential-forum-on-fox-news/?partner=rss&emc=rss

    Please share widely.

    NEWT!

  • Common_Cents

    We have learned that from the Perry campaign.

    The only thing a more national audience has seen of Jindal was his sing songy SOTU response. Of course we all know he is better than that and has a great record, but the trick is, can America find out in time?

  • cbartlett

    Well-written summary. Media manipulation of the facts (this includes what they choose to ignore) is tragic and getting worse every day.

    Add – Newt is the only one that can be effective against Obama. The other two are proving themselves to be wimps and have no clue what the DNC will throw their way. Newt has lots of experience dealing with liberal arguments and lies as well as the stupid media. Mitt & Rick will be eaten alive by the DNC machine.

    AND – “keeping the good parts of Obamacare” is most definitely the scariest part of Mitt.

  • texasref

    Your candidate sucks.

    Therefore Erick and I are Mormon-bashers–excuse me Mormon-ASSAULTERS.

    HIS Mormonism has nothing to do with it; on the other hand, the Mormonism of his supporters has everything to do with their candibotting (among the ones who candibot).

  • Vegas_Rick

    He’s already on record as saying we criticize Obama too much. He’ll run the general just like McCain with the same result.

  • texasref

    You are now free to move about the country.

  • mikelindell2

    In Florida Newt was outspent 5-1. In Michigan Santorum was outspent 4.1 million to 2.1 million. That disparity is not even close.

  • Common_Cents

    I’m not up on what’s going on there, the chances for a Gingrich win there.

    It’s gonna be tough for people not to now jump on the Romney bandwagon.

    Romney, Santorum, and Paul all conspiring to skip the GA CNN debate was a huge blow to Gingrich. Spineless, frankly un-American of campaigns to talk to each other and skip a specific debate like that.

  • mikelindell2

    /

  • texasref

    and I think Newt has, for his part, tried to minimize the damage to his standing among women through his story of having sought forgiveness, including a transformation of his belief structure to Catholicism as the building block to a stronger character in both his personal life and in standing firm on the issues important to the social and fiscal conservative causes.

  • demztaters

    It’s nice to see that some of you realize it’s not good politics to root openly for the nation’s failure. It’s not the same as realizing it’s not good citizenship to root for it privately, but it’s a start!

  • acat

    involves going to the grocery store much more often .. on a bicycle with large cargo baskets. I’ve also dropped my health club membership, and telecommute as often as possible.

    Also, I’m doing a lot more “from scratch” cooking, and will be expanding the garden and replacing a lot of flowers with vegetables.

    I am reminded, frequently, of the Carter years.

    Mew

  • mikelindell2

    I’ll pass on the fiscally liberal, pro-union guy who thinks a good tax plan means government favoring some industries over others. Santorum might break 30% in a general election and it would mean certain defeat for Republicans down ticket.

  • cbartlett

    is that the primary is most likely going to be May 29th now. (We missed SuperTuesday because of re-districting court challenges.) It is winner-take-all but this may all be decided before we get a chance to have any input. VERY frustrating.

  • texasref

    You and I agree almost always, but I must differ on your criticism of his implication that BHO will win re-election this year; if we put up Romney or Santorum, he surely will, and whether he votes Republican in the general or not won’t matter.

    P.S.: Can someone tell me what the heck is “SMOD?”

  • Vegas_Rick

    nt

  • WillWong

    Just contributed 10 gallons of $2.50 gas to his campaign! Guys…it is time to put our money where our mouth (or mouse) is!

  • texasref

    and the Establishment didn’t learn the lesson from putting up a moderate then, either.

    The Establishment is like a bunch of spoiled brats who, if you don’t do things THEIR way, will take their ball and go home.

    2012 is no different. And even if we put up Romney (and, as it goes without saying, we lose), they will be at it again in 2016, because there is a wing of the party that wants to manage the decline and who does not want their abortion and gay rights infringed upon. While I share their affinity for gay rights, I am not willing to throw my country under the bus just so I can have a state make the sign of the cross at me and my partner–I am a conservative!

  • mikelindell2

    Nice forgiveness you show. That whole redemption piece of Christianity let’s dismiss so you can sit and pass judgment on a situation you know nothing about. Newt never flip-flopped on immigration fyi, he proposed the only plan that could maybe pass so that we can secure the border and deport most illegals that are here. Or do you think a plan that hunts down 80 year olds will pass Congress??? As for Ryan, he was simply making the legitimate point that more of an effort to explain and build support for the plan should have been made before it was rolled out. That would have been less damaging to the party then just pass it and never build the case for it to non-conservatives. Newt is the only accomplished conservative leader who’s been in Washington that is alive today. The things I mentioned he accomplished you have no response to so you take shots at his personal life. He fought for what he said he’d fight for in Washington, and unlike most, actually accomplished it.

    The pro-gun control, pro-abortion, pro-tax increase, stimulus supporting, obamacare favoring, pro-global warming, pro-amnesty, anti-Reagan, timid policy-proposing governor of MA is really a solid conservative now that I think about it.

  • Common_Cents

    The stuff you need is going up. Look at your receipts. In stores, prices going up, or packages getting much smaller for the same price. Plus increase in energy/metals as a store of wealth. While we are printing money and doing nothing to create an environment conducive to job/economic growth.

    Stagflation is here.

    Yes, if we get a real hint of recovery, and the velocity of money picks up(banks actually start lending) would lead to hyper inflation in short order. Fractional reserve lending expanding the huge money supply we have now would be mind boggling enormous.

  • trelane

    I agree we should be looking for a new candidate, but even so Mitt will probably win. Erick has kind of painted himself into a corner with his anti-Romney messaging, he should have stuck to his original plan of remaining more objective.

    Mitt is certainly my last choice during the Primary, yet will very likely be my FIRST choice in the General. I’m not going to trash the guy like he’s the scum of the earth.

  • http://jeffemanuel.net Jeff Emanuel

    It’s just pathetic how quickly you bots will resort to Nazi references.

  • texasref

    to the general election, but I have a news flash for you–it’s still only February, and we haven’t had Super Tuesday yet.

    Put the oil away, we’re a long way from annointing anybody quite yet.

  • texasref

    Spade, thou art a spade!

  • texasref

    and it was 2.87%, not 3.

    :-)

  • texasref

    :-)

  • texasref

    return to your bridge

  • acat

    There’s plenty of good reasons to dislike Romney, just as there’s plenty of good reasons to dislike Harry Reid.

    That both are Mormons has nothing to do with it.

    Mew

  • texasref

    between Santorum and Gingrich, should be the prez, and the other guy should be the VP

    So I agree with your theory, but let’s wait til Tuesday.

    If Santorum beats Gingrich in TN then I think Santorum’s going to be the guy. But I will support Gingrich until Gingrich tells me to support someone else.

  • Melody Warbington (rwm52)

    to answer this question.

    What, exactly, are the good parts of Obamacare that Romney wants to keep?

    Because what’s not in Obamacare, or Romneycare for that matter, is tort reform, promoting competition (i.e., interstate) between health insurance and pharmaceutical companies, or reforming the Medicare payment system, any one of which would vastly improve the healthcare system in this country.

  • independentconservative

    Bobby Jindal? Seriously, is that the best you got? We all know Red State (ie Erick and his cronies) can’t stand that Romney is going to be the inevitable nominee, and while Erick does recommend a lot of good conservatives, (Rubio, Christie) sometimes he misses the obviously like here and supporting Mark Neumann in the open WI Sen. race (along with Tea Partier Jim DeMint over a guy that has a much more broad appeal that being the two term former Wisconsin Gov. Tommy Thompson.

    Thompson may be more moderate, which I know is a dirty word here, but guess what, he’s also more electable and has constantly led Democratic challenger Tammy Baldwin whereas Neumann only recently overtook her in the latest Rasmussen polling. If you want to sweat it out, stick by your values and support Neumann. I however, want the Senate to flip so I will be supporting Thompson as I have all along.

    When Red Staters publicly whine about Romney its only helping Obama and the Democrats. If we lose this very vunerable, winnable race, it will be because you ideologues refused to unite for the good of the party and country. Seriously, what are you Newt supporters clinging to? He’s a regional candiate at best. If he wins GA, so what? He’s from there, he should. The best he can do is win that and TN. He can’t win in WA, OH, CA. He’s doing what Paul is doing and that is sticking around until Tampa so that his ideas get incorporated into Romney’s platform and probably trying for some cushy cabinet or government position. That’s it. Newt’s a sideshow and an angry old man who has no ideas and no chance.

    http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/elections/election_2012/election_2012_senate_elections/wisconsin/election_2012_wisconsin_senate

    That “salvo” against Romney is pointless since whoever the nominee is, would get ‘oppo’ research. Try again. Don’t forget to breathe when you hold your nose, ideologues otherwise you’ll turn blue, just like many of these swing states if you stay home out of childish protest.

  • mikelindell2

    Every other state has decreased turnout. Newt’s win in South Carolina was the only time that voter turnout was up. Tells you all you need to know

  • jon11

    “The goal was to help Rick Santorum win Michigan, and obviously, that didn’t happen. Santorum simply sucked too much.

    But that doesn’t mean Operation Hilarity didn’t have an impact on the race.

    According to the exit polls, 9 percent of the electorate was Democratic, and of that, 53 percent voted for Santorum (just 18 percent for Romney). That means that Democrats accounted for about 4.5 of Santorum’s 38 percent. Without those votes, it’s a double-digit Romney shellacking (the final tally was 41-38).”

  • naysayer

    … but I don’t think it’s an great indicator of what he would do with the federal judiciary. Mass. is one of the bluest states in the Union, confirmation has to go through a committee where the Democrats hold almost all the cards, and not all judgeships are equal.

    As I believe has been reported here before (don’t have the link), in the higher court positions he was able to fill he held candidates to higher standards and actually got conservatives appointed.

    Also, I just did a quick search and came up with this:

    http://gopprimary2012.com/a-look-at-romneys-judicial-philosophy-conservative-reform-in-the-most-liberal-state/

    I’m not really sure what the provenance of this article is (I haven’t checked in detail — it could easily be a shill or sockpuppet site), but it was interesting in that I had not previously known that Robert Bork had endorsed Romney in 2008 (and I guess again this cycle), specifically mentioning Romney’s support for conservative jurisprudence.

    Like I said, I’m not super excited about Romney except inasmuch as I think he’s better than Obama and can is the only available option that can beat Obama, but as far as reasons to oppose him go I don’t think that the federal judiciary would be under threat to lurch left under his influence.

  • dereich

    How can an economic crisis NOT happen with this skyrocketing of gasoline prices? I firmly believe that when gas prices jumped in 2008, many, many Americans who were over-extended went over the cliff; especially those holding mortages they couldn’t afford. What is different now? It is only worse. Unemployement is higher, food prices are out of sight, the price of health insurance is up I believe, an average of 11%. After 3 years of this punishing BS, I feel that my family is just one crisis away from a disaster and I am still employed. What about the millions that aren’t?

    This Administration is an unmitigated disaster! I voted for Newt yesterday in AZ though my heart was for Perry (and he was on the ballot). Newt will force through an aggressive Energy plan. Mitt couldn’t care less…

    disheartened in AZ.

  • lemmi

    Yes
    The economy stinks
    The national debt sucks
    The defecate Is disastrous
    The endless regulations are tyrannical
    The foreign policy is an act of lunacy

    But he has a good smile

  • Aaron Gardner

    no text

  • independentconservative

    Your guy ran 4th in Michigan and didn’t even campaign there. He finished below Paul! How embarrassing. The only reason he’s still in is because of Adelson’s money and everyone knows that. All that is going to shift to Romney once he is the nominee anyway. Adelson wants Obama out so bad, there are rumors of $100M to the nominee and not just Gingrich if it were him.

    If you mock “Mr Inevitable” in Romney what does that make your candidate? “Mr. Clueless?” “Mr. No chance” Mr. 6% (from last night?) That’s what I’d call him. More like “Mr. Regional candidate” the ‘John C. Brekenridge’ of this race.

    You ideologues mock Romney for winning two states but guess, what he did exactly that! That’s more than YOUR candidate with Santorum continuing to make himself look foolish with gaffe after gaffe (JFK, women, college, courting Democrats) so much for “Mr Values” huh?

    3% in MI beat all the projection polls where he was supposed to win by 1-2% if he even won at all. Romney won every major category from women to whites, to Catholics, to college degree and no college degree, election #1 issue, economy #1 issue, beating Obama #1 issue. CNN had a very interesting focus group of OH swing voters and most of them were i,mpresed and swung to Romney by the end of the night. I’m not worried that Romney will close Santroum’s lead just like he did in MI. Santorum had his chance and couldn’t close the deal. Blew a 15% lead two weeks ago and 9% lead in MI just a week ago. The college comment did it. It was Santorum’s waterloo.

    No one is talking about AZ and Romney’s crushing 22% win. Even the most optimistic poll had Romney winning 42-29 and he surpassed it. What do you have to say about that? I guess it was the 15% Mormons that did it right? (sarcasm). Wow, a lot of you bitter Red Staters are grasping for straws and criticising Romney when he won, how ugly would you have been if he LOST? Some of you are no better than the liberals on MSNBC or CNN cheerleading last night for Santorum because they know he’s not electable.

    I am just one person and I can name a dozen people off the top of my head that are moderate or independent and wouldn’t vote for Santorum if he won. What does that tell you?

  • Scope

    was a Socialist in one of the debates. McCain informed us all in 2008 that we had nothing to fear from a President Obama. What is it about some who willingly slay those on their own side, but reach across the aisle and show respect even when it is not due?

  • naysayer

    … won’t vote R in the general.

  • joeydavis

    I didn’t attribute Perry’s failure in Iowa to anything.

    I said the political class believed Santorum’s win in Iowa was a fluke. They didn’t believe his campaign had any staying power. So when Perry’s path to the nomination disappeared it appeared to him, his campaign staff and various other pundits that it was going to be a 2 man race between Gingrich and Romney. And of course Perry would choose Gingrich.

    Although in Iowa I think Perry, to quote a good friend of mine from Iowa, “stepped on his junk” in the early debates and that’s why he lost Iowa.

    I was a big time Perry supporter, very excited when he entered the race. I thought he had all the pieces. I still like his record and his politics. But he made me wince as a candidate.

    I hear Santorum say things he shouldn’t. But he doesn’t back away from them and he capably explains himself. Perry has too many “duh” moments.

    Seems to me that both Perry and Santorum are real, genuine and likable, but Santorum is more intelligent.

  • JSobieski

    nt

  • independentconservative

    instead of “Anybody But Romney” you should be uniting around ANYBODY BUT OBAMA! As bad as Romney MIGHT be, he’s 100% better than who we have now

    DUH!

  • Common_Cents

    Hardly ever a story on record food stamps at over 46 million people now? How does that correlate to an improving economy?

    Lowest labor participation rate ever? That number is just cooked to make an unemployment # look better.

    You never see any attempt at a critical in depth analysis by anyone in the media.

  • haners

    And Newt wasn’t a factor in either race.

  • Common_Cents

    to let things get worse, then do the blame game on Republicans/speculators, then to set up the re-election, approve some more drilling and perhaps the XL pipeline. So Obama can be the savior, just in time for the election. He has two sides, crony crooked politician and socialist idealogue that wants to take down america for a “transformation”. He has said in the past he needs to do it in steps.

  • joeydavis

    Most of us guys have overlooked Newt’s past. Women, not so much. That is one subject that they absolutely don’t condone.

    We hear a lot about how women weren’t bothered by Bill Clinton’s escapades, but there’s a difference in the mind of women. Hillary Clinton forgave him. Had Bill Clinton run for reelection in 2000 having divorced Hillary Clinton and married Monica Lewinsky he would have lost in a Mondalesque landslide even with a surplus budget and 4% unemployment.

    Girlfriend’s opinion of Newt Gingrich = NOT GOOD

    She’d vote for him against Obama and most likely against Romney (she hates Romney). But overall she hates Gingrich with the passion of a woman scorned.

    Gingrich has long made the argument that if Santorum got out he could consolidate conservatives, but I honestly don’t think he can.

    I would go to Gingrich. She would go to Ron Paul. I think (and here I go thinking for women again) most female Santorum supporters would go to Romney.

  • Common_Cents

    I don’t think anybody even knows who Jindal is on a national basis.

  • haners

    with both the liberal and conservative media ganging up on him.

    And today EE talks about the “3 percent.” This isn’t about the election and beating Obama anymore, this has become a personal vendetta against Romney for EE. We all lose when conservative media figures put their own egos above all else.

  • salemst

    Only McCain doesn’t believe in Obama criticizing. Romney hits him at every chance.

  • salemst

    Whenever the front runner tries to stay above the fray attacking Obama, they get taken down as negative advertising works.

    Romney gets attacked from both the Left and Right, highly unusual. The guy can take a punch and give one back. Makes me ultra confident he’s the best guy to go against Obama

  • WillWong

    And the conversation took place in California. Guys, there is HOPE for Newt! Keep going! Newt needs us to keep making the case to our friends, coworkers, that he has the best comprehensive plan to roll back the Federal Government, reform DC, put in place an energy plan to make America energy independent, give us $2.50 a gallon gas, and create another 11 million jobs.

    And btw, help his campaign with some $2.50/gal gas!

    Cheers!

  • haners

    nt

  • BigRedConservative

    Then give him 4 years to act as Romney’s man on the ground, meeting people, twisting senators’ arms, being the link between the aloof Romney and the American people. Let him have some big foreign-policy victories (I don’t know, a free-trade deal with India, a key role in a Middle-East peace plan), and then convince Romney to step aside in 2016 and let Jindal ascend to the role he’s made for. Simple.

  • clowngirl

    Yeah- go Newt!!

    Not as ideal as a debate in Georgia but a good opportunity nonetheless!

  • Vegas_Rick

    You’re right. It had everything to do with Romney’s numerous faults.

  • joeydavis

    Romney outspent him 2:1. How much more did Ron Paul invest? His entire buy in Michigan was all anti-Santorum.

    Florida is also a much bigger state than Michigan in terms of cost. Michigan has 1 major metro market, Florida has 6. It takes a lot less money to saturate the market.

  • northernrockiesguy

    Intrade was wrong about passage of the ObamaCare bill for a long time. Just because Intrade has Obama leading at this point doesn’t mean he has a lock on the election, and no, I am not interested in betting with anyone, regardless of the odds. As for the economy, it may look like it is trending better, but there are some pretty sharp people who think we are in for tough sledding later in the year. It may require a miracle to beat Obama, and I am praying for that miracle every day and night and backing up my prayers with financial support for our guys.

  • acat

    it sounds to this cat like you’re whistling past the graveyard, hoping Romney will turn out better than Nixon or George H.W. Bush.

    Hardly an uncommon position, and to your credit you’re not bashing Santorum, Gingrich, or Paul to make your case, but .. it’s not persuasive.

    I choose to bet on a longer long-shot (Gingrich, specifically) with a higher payout.

    Mew

  • alfromfl

    continues to be uninspiring – you’d think he would catch on. I still think that Gringrich has the best vision for what America needs but don’t know if he can make another comeback – especially with no debate to make gains with. However, I don’t share the gloom of those who think that Obama is going to win. I refuse to believe that there are not sufficient Americans left that see what danger Pres Obama is putting this country in.

  • joeydavis

    Romney has been running for President for 6 years. He had 30% soft support a year ago and he still has 30% soft support.

    He has a finance network 6 years in the making. It’s the equivalent of a sitting Senator vs. a Challenger campaign. The incumbent is always going to have more money and a better network.

    In the last month Santorum HAS matched Romney in fundraising (113,000 donors in February). Rumor has it that Romney may be reaching into his own pocket for funding after Super Tuesday as his sources are drying up/tapped out. He’ll be relying more and more on his Super Pac. Santorum meanwhile is moving away from Super Pac funding.

    It is not unusual in Presidential politics for up and coming candidates to pick and choose battles that suit their strengths at least initially. That’s about to change with Super Tuesday.

    Romney’s going to finish 3rd in Georgia, Oklahoma and Tennessee. Santorum is likely to win 6 of 11 on Super Tuesday. He’s getting stronger. And after Super Tuesday, he will be a national candidate.

    By the way, Romney’s becoming regional as well. He’s contesting Ohio, but that’s about it. He won’t compete in the south or the caucus states in the west. That’s a real sign of weakness for a 6 yr old fully developed campaign.

  • anonymousbosch

    MI had increased turnout from 870k to around 1M. An increase of around 15%

    But AZ had 540k in 2008 and they had 459k last night per the official results from the AZ Sec State. That’s a drop off of around 15%

    Combined the 2 states had 1.41M in 2008 and they had around 1.46M last night.

    AZ did not have increased turnout. In fact, it had a rather steep decline.

  • cbconservative

    time to read through 300+ comments. Maybe this has already been said, but you’d have to have a screw loose to think the economy is fixing itself. At this rate it will take hundreds of years for it to get better.

    All we are doing when we say the economy is fixing itself is allowing Obama to say that even conservatives are saying it’s getting better. I understand you are probably saying it is fixing itself without Obama, but still man, baits, bait.

  • cbconservative

    I’m for anyone except Obama, but would rather have any candidate except Romney run against him. Romney will face sure defeat.

  • geotan

    Mike Gamecock Devine says that Mitt doesn’t give “Red Meat”. I am sick of hearing all these so called “Tea Partiers” and “Evangelicals” all bent out of shape looking for Mr. Perfect Conservative. Get over it! Romney was Liberal in social issues because he was Governor of Socialist Massachusetts. His economic plan is very conservative and he has real business experience outside of Washington D.C.. He wasn’t eating at the political pig trough like Santorum for 30 years. Stop following the Liberal media who’s aim is to discredit Romney through the “useful idiots” in the Republican party who can’t see the forest for the trees!

  • sethellis

    If that is the case then why doesn’t anyone here push back against such attacks? The only conclusion I can make is that you agree with the idea that there is something wrong with the mormon church, and that it isn’t worth defending.

  • http://www.doctor-bob.biz rsklaroff

    …but I would predict that “Rickrich” wouldn’t be as popular.

  • Aaron Gardner

    .

  • http://www.doctor-bob.biz rsklaroff

    [Believe it or not, I was going to type the precise word before having been beaten to the punch!]

  • http://www.doctor-bob.biz rsklaroff

    …to maximize Santorum’s anti-Mitt numbers.

  • http://www.doctor-bob.biz rsklaroff

    “2020″ [typo]

  • http://www.doctor-bob.biz rsklaroff

    Santorum is arrogant.

    Perry lost for the precise reasons [ethanol...then Van Der Plaats] detailed supra; this was “the word” in Des Moines on the 4th.

    Perry merited a 2nd look.

  • Scope

    that when people are really hurting, prices for everything having skyrocketed, and the unemployment number going up from more lay-offs, Obama will bring on his October surprise by all of a sudden having permits for drilling issued, he’ll release fuel from the reserve, for about three hours worth of fuel, and then he will cut exports. He will be seen as a savior of the country, he will win re-election, and then we will be right back to green renewable energy subsidies, and we will just keep having more and more Solyndra’s and LightSquared’s.

  • http://www.doctor-bob.biz rsklaroff

    …as per a ‘phone conference-call and the below article:

    http://politics.blogs.foxnews.com/2012/02/17/perry-join-gingrich-campaign-trail

  • Bill S

    We have banned every person who has waltzed in here talking about how Mitt will lose because he’s a Mormon. And we’ve banned every person who has waltzed in her accusing anyone else of being an anti-Mormon bigot.

    If you’ve missed this, you’re blind as well as stupid.

  • http://www.doctor-bob.biz rsklaroff

    …that I issued an overnight broadcast alert for a potential switch to DeMint during the hours after “Oops!”

    My gambit was shot-down, and I doubt he would react any differently now, months later.

  • http://www.doctor-bob.biz rsklaroff

    …because i agree with you.

    Best I can conjure are JFK/Camelot references via the MSM/LSM/ELM.

  • Scope

    that he has done to every other candidate that threatened his nomination. Don’t forget Jindal endorsed Perry, and I don’t think he has since endorsed Romney. You can bet that with all the talk of the weak field, and many wanting a savior, SMOD, that Romney’s team is already doing oppo research on every possible entrant into the race, even his friends Christie and McDonnell in case there are efforts to draft them. There really is little possibility of anyone else getting in the race now. After seeing Romney’s campaign tactics, I doubt any one would be willing to have their heads cut off by Romney.

  • http://www.doctor-bob.biz rsklaroff

    …because you must educate your peers on the ISSUES.

  • clowngirl

    Nice to see all the Newt enthusiasm in this section of the thread!

  • redmymind

    BHO can’t wait to defeat Mittens! . . . Who could blame him? BHO’s take down of BHO Lite would be phenomenal! . . . Buttered popcorn and soda, anyone???

  • http://www.doctor-bob.biz rsklaroff

    ?

  • clowngirl

    Or do you forget that already?

    And Santorum actually campaigned some in Florida and Nevada and got the benefit of 2 debates where he was under zero attacks himself and got to pile on Newt – as well as the benefit of a massive scorched effort against Speaker Gingich.

    And perhaps you’ve noticed Newt still leading your guy in the popular vote…

  • http://www.doctor-bob.biz rsklaroff

    …which basically allows for fly-over America to go Conservative.

  • Patrish

    Scope I am very happy that you now realize that “There really is little possibility of anyone else getting in the race now.”
    Accept it and sink into it Scope. You’re no better than the rest of us.
    Now we can focus on who will make the best VP!

  • redmymind

    Actually, I kind of find the unmasked boldness kind of refreshing! Hee, hee, hee! . . . 20% chance of rain tonight out here!!!

  • Melody Warbington (rwm52)

    If the folks who voted Not Romney are bigoted against Mormonism, then based on your logic, the block of Mormons who voted for Romney must be bigoted against Christians and Catholics.

    If Romney were the most conservative candidate in the race, I’d support him, but he’s not and I don’t. His religion has little to do with it.

    However, I’ll give you an answer. All things being equal on the political spectrum, I would vote for a candidate whose life experiences, i.e., upbringing (blue collar vs. white collar), religion, where they live, etc., most closely resemble mine. Doesn’t make me a bigot to vote for someone with whom I identify more than other candidates. We all have prejudices that influence our lives and decisions. Prejudices are not in and of themselves a bad thing, and they are a far cry from bigotry and racism. A synonym for prejudice is predisposition. I admit that I am predisposed to vote for a Christian conservative family man from the south. And, yes, I prefer male candidates for POTUS.

  • MF

    Just askin’, because it’s almost always the case that the more ‘electable’ candidate performs WORSE than the less ‘electable’ one.

  • http://www.doctor-bob.biz rsklaroff

    …if a 3rd party siphons-away a unified opposition.

    [I also don't know what "SMOD" is, per the input of Scope; this is a possibility....]

    http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=smod

    The act of smiling and nodding in response to someone’s odd behavior or comment.

    [The other potential definitions are vulgar and wouldn't fit the meaning of the sentence.]

  • anonymousbosch

    The open convention is the best hope. Then Romney’s ads and $ become irrelevant as only the delegates in the hall get to vote., A SuperPAC is meaningless.

    Romney is doing well largely because many think he’s the most electable. I don’t think many actually want him on his own merits. Lets say it was announced that the GOP was guaranteed to win in the fall, I doubt Romney would be leading or ahead or anywhere near it.

    So, I say the best thing is to hope no one gets a majority of delegates before the convention. See how things look at the end of August. If the economy picks up and Obama looks like a sure thing, may as well let Romney have it and finally be done with him come Nov 7.

    But, maybe things look different come Aug 27. Maybe gas is at $5 and the economy has slipped back towards recession. Maybe unemployment ticks up. Maybe the market slides. Maybe lower tax revenues bring up anothe deadline on the debt ceiling. Maybe Iran tests a nuke. Lots can happen. Maybe we get to the end of August and all of a sudden it looks like any Republican will have a very good chance at winning.

    Then everything changes. In that situation I think there are lots of people who could beat Romney at the convention.

    May as well let it play out and see what happens.

  • http://www.gmsplace.com/ civil truth
  • cbartlett

    Newt is the only one that tries to “teach” conservatism when he speaks. Mitt & Rick mostly echo Republican talking points and conservative rhetoric that they think people want to hear and occasionally throw in a “bashing” of one of the others. Problem is, mainly due to the reasons you so eloquently list above, the sheeple don’t want to listen or be “taught” conservative principles. They do not seem to understand that what they are getting “free” means they lose freedom & liberty in the process.

  • http://www.doctor-bob.biz rsklaroff

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Public_Security_Section_9

  • clowngirl

    center77, in Florida Newt was hit by a negative ad ratio of 65 to 1 ( winning our future claimed local networks were holding up some of their ads)

    And Newt was also getting smeared extensively by pro-Romney media.

    I don’t mean to be argumentative but that many attacks in one state concentrated into a short time is far from “a little bit”

    Another point that seems to get overlooked is that something like $150,000 people voted early before Newt’s second surge.

    I haven’t seen precise data on how many people voted for Romney on the day of the Florida primary as opposed to well in advance – but a cursory look gives the impression gives that Romney wasn’t able to erode the support Newt gained after SC – he, with his $15 million in negative ads and coordinated media attack – was only able to prevent Newt from continuing to expand that support.

    It would’ve been a very tall order for Newt to come in and win Florida after all that early voting. He would’nt needed something like 50% of the non-early votes (which, admittedly, was where Newt was polling in Florida in early December) when he’d just come back from supposedly being dead.

    As I see it, it really took $25 million, a lot of lying, and 2 scorched earth media assaults for Romney to eventually win Florida.

    And- now that I think of it- it also took the media being pro-Romney and anti- Newt all summer.

    That’s the lay of the land and there’s no use complaining about it – I’m just saying Newt has had the MUCH more difficult path and – should he prevail- would emerge fully prepared to defeat Obama.

    Romney has had a rather sheltered primary, with an absurd level of advantages (money, media, establishment support, states that favor him almost all voting early, etc, etc) and would be woefully unprepared against Obama.

  • http://www.doctor-bob.biz rsklaroff

    …but it’s too late now.

    I just think The Newt can capture fly-over America and perhaps a few extra east-coast states [perhaps Jersey] to offset Illinois, Minnesota, Wisconsin and perhaps Colorado.

  • formotioncreative

    You’re saying RedState commentaries subscribe to tactics resembling Pelosi saying “you have to pass the bill to find out what’s in it.” So, we have to accept the nominee first, then find out who he is. This is about the leader of our country and we can’t turn over every rock? Then we’re censoring just like the libs did with Obama. I’ll have nothing to do with that. Consider me resigned from Red State. I only want to participate with journalists who are willing to call ‘em like they see ‘em. I thought that was what Erickson was doing here.

  • http://www.doctor-bob.biz rsklaroff

    This is precisely what I have been proposing in my Diary.

  • clowngirl

    By “your candidate” I meant Santorum – now I see you sound more like a Romney supporter.

    You call Newt a “regional candidate” while making a big deal out of Romney winning HIS HOME STATE by 3%?!! And also managing a win in a state with one of the highest Mormon populations in the country?

    If Romney wins Utah, I expect you’ll be attributing it to some extraordinarily brilliant campaign.

  • westcoastpatriette

    my unmasked boldness erupts from time to time. :)

  • widobberman

    It is an odd argument that all the states Romney wins don’t matter because he has some ‘insider advantage’… New England states, New England transplants and high Mormon states. Generally someone with appeal in lots of states is a good thing. Only a CNN contributor could distort that into a negative. Nice try EE

  • cbartlett

    In addition to the reasons you list for the negative impact of Romney’s wealth, liberals, Obama in particular, have become very, very good masters of the class-warfare mantra in the last year or so. (In anticipation of a Romney-Obama match-up perhaps?!?) And remember that they will also have the very willing assistance of the lamestream media to further the cause. Class warfare is much easier to expolit than facing the reality of dismal economic or foreign policy issues that they can’t explain or defend.

  • mikelindell2

    Where are either of your numbers coming from? Wishful thinking?
    Every outlet is reporting it was down and that’s with 10% Dems voting.

    Detroit Free Press:
    http://www.freep.com/article/20120228/NEWS15/120228029/Low-voter-turnout-so-far-in-Michigan-blamed-on-little-interest-in-primary-ballot-confusion?odyssey=nav|head

    CNN:
    http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2012/02/28/expected-turnout-down-in-michigan/

  • colonelflagg

    Erick, you and I must live in different economies.

  • cbartlett

    nt

  • fightnright

    I’ve written posts here describing Newt’s ability to weave the specifics of his platform onto the grand material of conservative First Principles; how he takes a simple reference point in current policy and sets it into the framework of the lasting and the ‘Real’ which will – instead of being a transitory political fad, guide us safely in good stead throughout the centuries. You have to want to join him in his journey of cherishing and understanding this precious political philosophy. That’s why I heart Newt.

    I’ve also written that Mitt sounds like an agitated parrot on a time-clock*, though as a voter I’m an ABO and a poll-watcher: I hope for the most conservative candidate who can win. I think The zerO will do so much damage to the courts, the bureaucracies, and the expansion of entitlements to entrap (D) dependents, plus the retraction of rights (which I should have said above are RECOGNIZED, not GRANTED in our founding documents), that I fear any last term of Obama’s will render the voting franchise moot.

    *still, I think Mitt’s speech last night showed the first inklings that he might be beginning to get a feel for what it takes to set an audience on fire, and raise genuine enthusiasm that will translate into votes for a Republican ticket. Santorum, otoh, scowled, looked darkly irritated, and like he had just been forced to swallow lemons. Granted Rick was exhausted and under stress, but it’s not a good sign that he could not rise above his emotions and present the cameras with a more composed physiognomy for someone vying to be the U.S’s executive leader and CIC in a period of global challenges.

  • westcoastpatriette

    bah humbug!

  • mikelindell2

    I’m not sure what you are saying. The ratio of dollars spent is the point, not how many dollars were used. If a candidate spends $5 million to another candidate’s $4.5 million spent, there is almost no disparity in spending, despite the fact one candidate spent $500,000 more. If one candidate spends $100,000 and another candidate spends $50,000, the disparity ratio is much greater despite the fact that the dollar amount is only $50,000 more. You’re arguing about totally irrelevant facts.

  • Creedo

    Romney may have had a battle in his own home state, but Gingrich has lost 6 of 11 states to Ron Paul. That’s the definition of unelectable.

  • demsaresatanic

    We don’t have “many years” in my opinion. Consider the example of Calif., even a Rino is too conservative to be elected statewide now. Third-world immigration changes the culture you rely upon to accept the re-introduction of “authentic America.” which, as you define it, is comprised of Western-based values. The following discusses the point: http://www.vdare.com/articles/swept-away-unfettered-immigration-is-rapidly-shifting-the-ethnic-and-political-balance-of-t

  • acat

    failing to capture any States in any general election…ever.

    Gingrich losing to Ron Paul in several primary caucuses, which are the only kind of races Ron Paul can compete in, is not remarkable.

    Mew

  • nancysabet

    There are many many delegates from TX and CA and Perry can jump in and won a big portion of them.

  • tomrt

    If not losing to Paul is the yardstick, then Santorum also fails the test.

    ‘but Gingrich has lost 6 of 11 states to Ron Paul.’

    All the states in which Gingrich polled less than Paul were either too small, or ones in which Gingrich didn’t compete.

  • Patrish

    He showed poor judgement by getting into the race in the first place so soon after a very major surgical operation. You PerryKrishnas slay me!

  • clintonformccain

    and was, unfortunately, not well-prepared to effectively handle the challenges of campaigning as a front-runner on the national stage. He was also rejected by the conservative base for his perceived “softness” on illegal immigration, compounded by his failure to predict in advance how much of a hot button issue his state’s tuition policy would be in a national race.

  • westcoastpatriette

    Why don’t you shut up, pompous one?

  • filobeddoe

    is that Mitt Romney buffaloed (sp?) everyone out of the race well before it began. Instead of waiting for a true conservative to run in the primary, the tea party and conservatives nee to put up a candidate before some RINO type (I doubt Romney’s even a Republican) sucks all the air out of the room. It’s probably too late now. Four more years of Obama.

  • vastrightwingconspiracy

    EE – Romney whacked Santorum by 11% with R’s and doubled him up in AZ.

    3% was the spread after the liberal plants tried to steal the election for Slick Rick.

    Normally I dig people’s bitterness but this is just getting embarassing.

  • vastrightwingconspiracy

    Santorum and jumping on the Democrat talking points bandwagon to prove a point.

    Of course, all of this is a conflict of interest. It’s better for these fringe pundits and bloggers to have a D President.

    Anger and outrage generates way more traffic than does prosperity.

  • acat

    Mew

  • demsaresatanic

    of how Romney manages to out-lie Obama. And the vote suppression effect outlined demonstrates the danger to the entire Republican ticket if Romney is the nominee.

  • fightnright

    ::knees a little weak as fightnright sees the pub date of the ‘we-are-doomed’* article is *2001*::

    ‘we are doomed’ phrase may be trademark, John Derbyshire :)

  • fightnright

    ….no, Steyn is ‘doom and gloom’.

  • trickamsterdam

    Wow, you mean the winner of a Republican primary also won the demographic group “Whites”? Every winner of every Republican primary wins Whites, dude (unless it’s an R primary being held in Puerto Rico…and I say this being Bi-Racial, so no one get crazy).

    Also, you can mock Santorum and Gingrich as losers, but a lot of us knew what would happen if Romney lost last night is that very likely another candidate would have entered the Race…we don’t know who that would have been, but we can say w/ statistical certainty that he or she would have been better than Romney (because you could run a DVD of Reagan speaking on a large screen TV and it would be better [and more electable] than Romney).

    BTW, the sooner you realize that the problem a lot of us have w/ Romney is not his liberalism (e.g., even if a lot of us wouldn’t support people like Christie or Huntsman in the Primary, we would in the General, and even enthusiastically) but that his pathological lying etc is a CHARACTER ISSUE, not that different in many ways than Cain’s problems…you’ll realize Romney’s doomed.

    We’re not going to support him in the General. Period. And those reverse-coat tails (lack of volunteers, enthusiasm, donations) are going to lead to severe (that’s a Romney word, right?) problems w/the House and Senate as well.

    Note: I don’t write this post to threaten Romney hardcore supporters (and virtually anyone who would defend him aggressively on a conservative website like this, is a hardcore supporter), who are as far gone as the Nazis in the Bunker in 1945, who were still talking about their great building plans for Berlin in the 1950s, even as the Russian guns were heard outside.

    I’m writing it for the people who may vote for this guy in a primary, being very lukewarm on him, but thinking he’s electable. He’s not. Not by any rational [recent] evidence. There’s still time to PULL BACK. But not much. And since these Newt people openly consider Santorum as much or more of a threat than Romney, we’re not going to get much help from them in stopping this guy. They’re delusional and in the tank for Newt, just like this guy I’m responding to is delusional and in the tank for Romney.

    Your choice. Do you want to go down w/ a guy most of you know in your gut can’t beat Obama in November (Romney)? Or try to stop Romney, and get another candidate into the race and save this thing? I think most Santorum people would abandon Santorum, but the Newt people are clearly going down w/ the ship.

    So I’m basically talking to Santorum and brokered convention people here. Don’t you want to even try?

    It’s hard striking-out in the bottom of the ninth while trying to swing. But even harder when it’s on a called strike and you were too unoriginal to even take the bat off your shoulder.

    PS – Romney Delenda Est

  • joeyjojoshabadoo79

    So who else we got?

  • acat

    Here, let me refresh your memory.

    Doesn’t look like a deer to me.

    Mew

  • Flagstaff

    From the same folks who were floating the idea that Ron Paul is in Romney’s pocket?

    I wouldn’t be thrilled with Coleman either, but isn’t it a little far-fetched to pull this out of a rumble this early? Sounds like a Santorum leak to me.

  • Flagstaff

    The President can’t make Congress repeal anything. But there is nothing to suggest that if we get a Congress to pass the repeal Romney would veto it.

    That’s why we need a “can do: Congress, and why Mitch McConnell needs to get Jim DeMint’s repeal bill to the Senate floor.

  • texasref

    According to CNN, Santorum got just as many delegates from Michigan as Romney did.

    Where I come from, when both teams end up with the same score, nobody gets to say they won.

    http://www.cnn.com/2012/02/29/politics/primaries/index.html?hpt=hp_c1

  • RichmondG30

    ” We don?t need another Joe Scarborough on TV. We need a conservative intelligent Erick Erickson.”

    I am afraid that boat has sailed.

  • acat

    See that search box in the top right corner? Use it.

    Mew

  • SoFiMil

    did you have any problems with the substance of what Jindal said?

    …And do you even know or care what was the substance of Jindall’s address/response?

  • runner12

    Romney is not exactly “winning over the masses” in the GOP and frankly the other two candidates have issues as well.

    But I do not agree that the economy is improving and that it will not be a major issue in the election. Gas is about to hit $5 a gallon and will likely go higher. Many people are still either out of work or underemployed.

    Coupled with the recent attack on religious liberty by Obama and Co., the Left has many problems heading into this election. Obama is very beatable at this point. We just need a decent candidate we can run against him.

  • joeyjojoshabadoo79

    You’re a fan of Jindal I get it. We can do better IMHO.

  • giatny

    The Republican Party has done more damage to Romney than Obama.
    Independents were much more favorable to Romney until his own party showed its stupidity by going from Bachman, Trump, Perry, Cain, Gingrich, Romney, Gingrich, to Santorum. The tea people need to stop voting for Santorum unless they want Obama to be reelected. Santorum has no chance nationally. None. The American people
    have been tortured long enough with
    these primaries.

  • Patrish

    N/T

  • oldmom2

    “approve some more drilling and perhaps the XL pipeline”, wouldn’t he be turning off his base of progressive liberal voters who he needs to be reelected?

  • minister_of_war

    If Romney can win every state where he owns a home or has lived in before, I hope that Romney starts using his own money to buy homes in every state across the US.

  • minister_of_war

    n/t.

  • oldmom2

    I think Mitt is much more likeable than Obama. And much, much more likeable than R. Santorum who seems to be whiny and grumpy.

    Obama seems to be like a lecturing parent with a note of arrogance thrown in, while Mitt seems more like my befuddled elderly aunt who is always saying something she shouldn’t – a bit dopey, but very likeable.

    Seems ridiculous that we are even discussing something as trivial as ‘likeability’ , but we all know that for millions of voters- that IS how they choose their candidate.

  • Flagstaff

    Was impressed by the fact that he had four nominal conservatives on against him at one time and he kept it all civil and organized. Wish Fox would do the same with their stupid liberals. Too bad he sounds like every BBC host on the air.

    I note that Romney seems to be winning in spite of the press. He won 2-to-1 in AZ. MI was a mixed bag, but amounted to a comeback after Santorum shot to the top for a week with the help of a ready-made SoCon controversy for Santo to wax indignant about.

    I don’t mean that it was made up for that purpose, but it was exactly the type of issue that Santo could use. Unfortunately for him, there was also just enough time for him to carry it too far, lose some of that good will, and pick up some ill will among women, especially.

  • krish

    Romney is winning in states that Obama will carry wthout campaigning – Obama will concentrate on battleground states…it will be a cake walk!

    For example, look where Mitt won in MI – rich neighborhood suburbs! The big cities will go in a big way for Obama dwarfing the suburban votes. Also, suburban women may go to Democratic because of the unnecessary contraception issue – will be turned in to a major scare tactic by MSM! The “red” rural areas that went to Santorum – will they be excited to go to the polls for Romney? Also Romney will have to spend time in the South to make a case – especially after he gets shellacked by Newt & Rick on Super- Tuesday.

    Only Rombots believe that he is “severly conservative” – watch him move further left (he is already in the centre during primary) during the general election. This will further alienate the conservatives in the rural areas of the midwest – Romney will lose by a bigger margin than McCain!

  • trickamsterdam

    What I’m trying to desperately get across to you Romney people is that the problems don’t go away when the primaries end: Romney’s the problem and the attempt to stop him through primaries is the cure.

    But it’s so typical of Romney supporters…you really think when he trots out some Southern SoCon Nobody as his VP and there’s a very good Convention,that’s going to fix everything? Or do you actually, like Ann Coulter, believe that as soon as it ends “the era of good feelings among Republicans” will begin?

    Don’t you understand that we’re voting for someone as lame as Santorum precisely BECAUSE Romney is utterly unacceptable? We’re not voting for him in the General, boss. Whether that means Obama repeals that amendment and rules for the rest of my lifetime, I’m not doing it, and I’m not the only one. Not negotiable and not changing.

    Now, people might say “OK, but 95% of the [give or take] Base doesn’t feel as strongly as you, ‘trick”.

    Probably very true, except it doesn’t take as much of a percentage as many apparently think it does to swing an election. For example, if you’re a D w/90% of the Black vote you’re in good shape…but only get 85% and there’s a very good chance you’re done.

    Same way you only get 95% of the Base in an election like this, and you’re almost certainly done. And you probably take the House and Senate on your trip to Club Med: Hades w/ you.

    So if you want a compromise candidate (because you can’t stand Santorum or Newt), and you want to go to a brokered convention, let’s do it. Or if you really think Romney is the best for the job, and don’t care if he wins or loses, then OK. But if you think ending these primaries is going to make him more electable:

    You’re. Actually. Just. As. Dumb. As. You. THINK. This. Base. Is.

    PS – Romney Delenda Est

  • tonotisto

    Our state’s Primary has not been held yet. I’m sorry if this is ‘torture’ for you (Demcracy can be difficult).

    FYI, Romney is the King of negative.

    Romney has saturated the airwaves with $M’s of cut and burn spots against fellow Repubs, all along the way screaming for the Primary to end and for him to be deemed the R’s chosen one.

    But, maybe we should end this torture….by asking Romney to quit helping Obama by carpet bombing the rest of Repubs. Since Romney is the main source of division, maybe he should step down for the good of the country.

  • oldmom2

    you’d want to share a beer with him. ;-)

  • Flagstaff

    starting when I decided he was the only one of the bunch who seemed able to run a national campaign and who knew how to use the English language to his advantage instead of his detriment. He does make the occasional mistake, but they are not as bad as the press, including Fox, tries to make them seem.

    The guy even won the Catholics in Michigan. His demographics last night were very good.

    We shall see.

  • Creedo

    nt

  • Flagstaff

    I don’t know which states are all-or-nothing and which deliver proportional delegates, but it would make sense for each of them to concentrate on the all-or-nothing states. But of course, it can’t work that way for all of them, maybe not for any of them.

  • Creedo

    It doesn’t mean anything. The narrative is the narrative, and until Super Tuesday all this talk about delegates is just talk.

  • oldmom2

    reason to NOT stick with what is already in place : Obama Care.

  • greyeagle

    Newt and his cheating is left to God. Personally, I prefer Newt, his experience and his ideas to flip flopping liberal Romney. Santorum does NOT have any experience and Ron Paul is Ron Paul.

  • Flagstaff

    In fact, I had read the first blog on the subject and even commented on it and recommended it at the time.

    But it was about something Coleman had said, not about him becoming HHS Secretary. A Romney campaigner said at the time,

    ?With all due respect to Sen. Coleman, he?s wrong,? campaign spokeswoman Andrea Saul said via e-mail. ?Gov. Romney can and will repeal Obamacare and is committed to doing so.?

    In the same blog: “A Romney operative has said that if Romney looses[sic] Florida, the establishment will look for an alternative. Why don?t we speed that process up?” But he didn’t lose.

    I think reality is telling us that “strict” conservatives are not the majority of Republican party, although we are an important part of it, and even strict conservatives are willing to take the Reagan compromise and accept 80% in order to win the WH. Whether it’s a good bargain or not we can’t know in advance, and those who think it isn’t are just as respectable as those who think it is.

  • demsaresatanic

    subtle Newt-bashing here. Keep digging in that dunghill, we want more “cheating on two wives” from you.

  • Flagstaff

    that an unnamed “establishment” Romney supporter said before Tuesday, “if Romney loses in Michigan we have to look for another candidate.” Sounds familiar, doesn’t it?

  • Flagstaff

    “Democrats sense such a strong vulnerability now and sniff a chance of a Santorum nomination, they aren?t going to wait for the general election to start dumping oppo research on Romney.”

    Then why are the Dems trying to help Santo get the nomination, if they think Romney is so vulnerable?

    That’s a scary story in the WaPo, but we put that kind of thing behind us in 1960, and again in 2008. An attack against Romney’s sect will backfire, unless they can equate the LDS church to the KKK.

    Just like Newt’s negatives seem to be killers, so too, are the results of last night’s election demographics–for Santorum.

  • noogan

    Michael Barone says Erick Erickson is wrong.

    Mitt Romney is winning voters that Republicans haven’t been able to win for 20 years, and could change the landscape for the GOP in November in states like Michigan, New Jersey and others.

    So, in fact, the opposite of what EE always pronounces–like the laughable pronouncement by EE that ” Newt Gingrich will be the nominee” — the truth is that Romney is the best chance the GOP has to defeat Obama in November, by winning states the GOP hasn’t won in 20 years.

    Michael Barone:

    “Romney has shown in Michigan as elsewhere a capacity to win votes in affluent areas?which is exactly where (at least in the North) Republicans have been weak in presidential general elections over the last 20 years.

    “Affluent suburbanites are not a target group anyone has focused on much. But there are plenty of them and they tend to be in states with lots of electoral votes currently considered unavailable to Republicans. Mitt Romney?s showing in Michigan, on top of his proven appeal to this demographic?and particularly to affluent women?suggests they could make a difference in November 2012.”

    http://campaign2012.washingtonexaminer.com/blogs/beltway-confidential/romney-appeal-affluent-suburbs-could-change-map/400536

  • http://www.examiner.com/x-1597-Charlotte-Law--Politics-Examiner Mike gamecock DeVine

    nt

  • acat

    over at Hot Air who got it Ben Domenech’s Ricochet

    That Coleman thinks Romney won’t repeal Obamacare is problematic .. before he shoved his wingtip down his throat, I’d had some hope he’d run Dayton (D-Gov, MN) out of town. Now? Not so much.

    Norm Coleman is exactly the sort Romney will be looking to tap for a cabinet post .. he’s a D.C. insider, he’s got experience, he’s respected, and he doesn’t wobble the balance in Congress…. and is exactly why – if personnel is policy – Romney is unacceptable.

    Mew

    p.s. did Romney “win” Michigan?

  • MissouriConservative

    We all knew Santorum was too good to be true. It would be nice to blame his woes on a Romney assault, but he has brought himself down even more. How did he screw up? Let me count the ways.
    1.) Attacking the great Kennedy speech on religion and the presidency
    2.)Buying into a conspiracy between Paul and Romney. Paul may have some unusual views, but his criticism of former members of Congress will be stronger, because they voted on the same issues.
    3.)As a candidate, he defends the Catholic Church over the birth control issue, but as a Catholic, where was his voice when Catholic adoption agencies were being forced against their beliefs
    4. For me it was not the robocall, but the context. It would be one thing to be up front and ask for Democrats to support him. From a man who claims to be pious, he creates a call that deliberately sounded like a union call to arms call and only,if one listened to the last couple of seconds did it mention coming from his campaign. Back in my old Methodist Sunday School days, my teacher used to say, if it is a “half” truth or the statement is meant to deceive, or obscure on purpose, it is
    still a lie. I know where I learned my ethics. Where did Rick pick this up? Oh, yeah, that’s right he is a graduate of the same school of ethics as Obama, the US Senate, bastion of moral virtue.

    Romney beat not only Santorum, but the Obama machine that was in full force. Obama went in person, calling for the unions to go out and fight for him. He was unopposed. He and Michael Moore asked for Obama supporters to swing the election away from Romney. Why was Michigan so singularly important? Romney puts it into play in the general election and it has has been a safe state for Democrats almost forever. The enemy of my enemy (Obama) is now my best friend. Congratulations Governor Romney. I will be proud to vote for you!

  • MissouriConservative

    I have been a Newt guy for a number of years. I was a follower of his American Solutions. I am having two serious reservations about him now. Primarily his “historical advice” to Freddie/Fannie that we taxpayers paid 1.5-1.9 million dollars for. Just like Newt, I wanted Romney’s and all candidates tax returns. I also want to see the body of work from the historical advice. So far, not even a single double spaced typewritten page! As a historian, he should be keenly aware of the need for historical substantiation.
    To compound the problem, all this work was done when Freddie/Fannie was feeding politicians, Republican
    and Democrat, at the trough. It included among others, Obama, Frank, and Kit Bond. I am no fool and without a shred of substantiation, I seriously wonder not what the taxpayer bought, but who? Join me in asking Gingrich to clear the air.

  • rscottm31

    Erick, if you believe the economy is fixing itself, you have drunk Obama’s Kool Aid.

    Real unemployment is over 15%,, a level not seen since the Great Depression years. Production is down. Wages are down. National debt is up.

    The stimulus has clearly failed. Fed policies have failed. The president has failed.

    We need to recover the White House and the Senate to begin economic recovery.

    You can help. Do not give up on conservatism. Support the GOP and it’s pro-growth policies.

    Yours in Liberty,

    Robert

  • rightland1111

    Santorum is more intelligent. Yeah…I guess so…people have not figured out that if they give 0% tax rate to manufacturing companies they are going to pick up the tab.

    I guess my answer to that is the electorate is TOO STUPID to recognize success…and success we need or we go down.

    So…Santorum…know what we get…SPENDING, SPENDING, SPENDING. That’s his record….But it is not The Duh Governor’s record…but what the heck what’s another trillion dollars. Santorum might be more adept with his vocabulary…but he stinks when it comes to decisions…and decisions are what make the difference. I guess we have found that out from Obama…and he can’t even do that well…unless with a teleprompter.

    If you have ever hurt your back…two hours standing does not make a good debater or ANYONE. He got in too soon and he did not recognize…nor did his wife…that the ethics of DC were even worse than he HAD EVEN IMAGINED. Let’s face it…honesty and cordial behavior does not impress very many people…look at who we elected.

    Santorum is a Talker.. Perry is a Doer. Which would you choose NOW?

  • rightland1111

    First…we do have a garden and we do grow vegetables. Second, we buy in bulk and much of which can be delivered without shipping charges…i.e., BJ’s, Sam’s Club…and I don’t know about Cosco. We are very frugal people…we’re not big time spenders…but there are many things that have doubled in price. Gas is a perfect example.

    Now…Kitty…I live in the Appalachian Mountains…a rural area…going to the grocery store…at my age would be a feat. The bicycle would do me in. We do have a health club here and it is “free” with state of the art equipment…so we go. Again…it’s about three miles from the house. It’s good for our health and keeps us out of the doctor’s office. Exercise. Or we walk the neighborhood and save on the gas.

    I think what is coming is going to be a lot worse than the Carter years…and it will start..no matter who gets elected after election day.

  • acat

    From CBS News .. you know, the Mainstream Media.

    You may want to re-think your assertion.

    Mew

  • independentconservative

    “We?re not going to support him in the General. Period”

    That’s pretty idiotic. Anybody but Obama you ideologue! You are part of the problem if you don’t WAKE UP and get on board with the Republican party. Go ahead and stay home and pout then, but you will only have yourself to blame for your foolish pride.

    I don’t care what Romney does in his first 4 years, I guarantee you it will be better than anything Obama will do. What part of that don’t YOU understand. I don’t care if he “fools us” and is actually a moderate or a (gasp!) liberal Republican, Obvously we know by this past he’s not a socialist with BAIN CAPITAL and capitalism. I don’t care who he nominates to the courts, they won’t be as bad a Obama’s politically correct ‘empathetic’ picks. No matter what Romney does, the debt isn’t going to go up as fast as it did and will under Obama! Get that through you head.

    Why are Republicans not harping “just think what Obama is capable of with 4 more years and not having to worry about re-election ever again due to term limits (unless of course Michelle serves as his proxy and he runs again in 8 years as I’ve actually heard that rumor here). Wouldn’t surprise me, and he may just win again. Just think how much further left Obama could go once re-elected? It actually could get worse.

    That brokered convention idea is crap. The person winning wouldn’t have their heart and soul in it so wouldn’t probably win in the general anyway. Also, they’d have just 2.5 months to raise hundreds of millions to compete with the DNC and Obama. 2.5 months to get name recognition etc. Who do you want? Ryan? HA! Whose ever heard of him outside of WI? No one knows who he is except for politcal junkies like us. How do you get idiot youth to vote for him when they are so infatuated with their leade Obama? What about moderates and indpendents?

    Christie has said 10,000 times he’s not ready and doesn’t want it. Jeb Bush? That’s just asking for MSNBC to attack although I think he’d have the best chance. Sarah “Gee Golly” Palin? She’s an airhead who I wouldn’t want to vote for if you want to talk people not worth voting for. Make no mistake, I will support whoever get the nomination, unlike you, but Romney is my first choice.

  • acat

    And it’s not going to matter who’s in charge.

    Mew

  • Patrish

    fully concur with everything you have written here. Nicely done!

  • http://www.timothy-bladel.com/ center77

    and I don’t particularly care about Newts past, but the electorate apparently does. At this point, Newt is insuring Romney beats Santorum. If newt was out, Romney would have likely lost home state.

  • acat

    Give you a hint, it ain’t Wafflin’ Willard.

    Oh, I’ll vote for him, but all my time, money, and energy will be going to winning House and Senate races. Willard can go pound sand.

    Mew

  • http://www.timothy-bladel.com/ center77

    which is the only reason he is still in this race. I no longer see how Newt can win this thing. What he is doing now is allowing the conservative vote to go to two candidates instead of seeing it go to one person against Romney. I would rather have Newt than any of the candidates left, but I understand why people are not going for him. It is clear he cannot beat Obama. Between Obama and the MSM, Newt would lose over 40 states, maybe over 45. I think it is too east to twist what Newt has done, and most people will not do the research to see that he has done many good things too. He ruined his chances when he was speaker. I see no way Newt wins, even if he does manage another comeback.

    Im not saying he should drop out, but I think it is still important to be realistic about who will be the nominee, and who has very little chance of winning. Super Tuesday will be spilt, and after that we will still see Romney struggle, but I do not see him losing in the end.

  • http://www.timothy-bladel.com/ center77

    Money is going to be about the only thing going for Obama. How in the world is Newt going to win the middle if half of the things people say about him are true. Yes, the ethics charges were bogus, but the affairs were not. The work he did with Freddie Mac was not. I think the Democrats win by character assassination, and Newt would make that job so much easier. I think the only reason he is losing support is because people got to see how Romney manhandled him in Florida. Beating Obama is important no matter whom the nominee is, and I do not see how Newt does that. Now I do not see how Romney does either. Santorum, not so much.

    So for the Party & Country, we need a new candidate to jump in, and do it now.

  • funwithknives

    she’s an Oil expert. Just ask her and she’ll tell ya’ all about it. She knows EveryThing! But Econ # 101 must have been a minor, and not well attended. {if she can “suppose” her Facts so can I}

    YOO-HOO, Shar-Ronn….

  • http://www.timothy-bladel.com/ center77

    I think there are some risk involved from having a Jindal jump in, but no more than the risk that are already involved in nominating one of the candidates still in this race.

  • acat

    You know, the actual oil expert.

    Mew

  • funwithknives

    a not infrequent occasion at this address. Who is he and why do I need to call him.{Just call me clueless}
    I’m really poor at recognizing the smartest guy in the room and given this one is so large, hep’ a guy out, why doncha’ Who’s He?

  • independentconservative

    nt

  • lineholder

    Does that make it easier, funwithknives?

  • acat

    Here’s his profile

    The reason he should be laughing hysterically at sharrondeer is because, unlike that person, he’s:

    Operations Manager for a small Gulf of Mexico Gulf Coast oil & gas explorer & producer

    He’s actually Steve Maley, but Vladimir sounds so much more .. sinister.

    Mew

  • lineholder

    Steve Maley is operations manager for a shallow-water Gulf of Mexico oil and gas production company, located in Lafayette, La., and is contributing editor for energy and environmental issues at RedState.com.

  • funwithknives

    With a little help from all you fine fellows{and i use the term loosely…..}

  • Scope

    Cavuto put up a chart showing that currently Oil and Gas subsidies were $4.2 billion, and Renewable subsidies are $8.2 billion.. That was after showing a portion of a recent speech saying that we must end oil and gas subsidies. Cavuto had Gingrich on a phone interview, and he asked Gingrich if he would end energy company subsidies. Gingrich said that he would not support ending those tax credit subsidies because he saw that as tax hikes, and he is against tax hikes.

    Cavuto then had Sen. Mike Lee on. He asked Lee if he would end energy company subsidies, and Lee was in favor of ending those subsidies, for all energy companies. Cavuto pointed out Newt was against ending those subsidies because he saw them as tax hikes. Lee made the point that you can balance that with lowering corporate tax rates. Sounds correct to me.

    If I am not mistaken, Gingrich has proposed lowering the corporate tax rate from 38% to 12.5%. Wouldn’t that more than make up the difference to the companies if they lost the tax credits/subsidies?

  • Scope

    it was after showing a portion of an Obama speech saying we have to end oil and gas subsidies.

  • Flagstaff

    t

  • JSobieski

    Companies should be able to depreciate the entire cost of something when they incur the cost.

    Totally agree that the rest of it should be junked.

  • JSobieski

    http://www.nationalreview.com/articles/267207/end-big-oil-subsidies-david-harsanyi

  • haners

    You’re becoming a disgrace batting for the other team..

    Just quit the Republican Party since you seem to hate it so much.

  • olds88er

    He made his bed and soon will have to lie in it. Your analysis on who our nominee should be is way off, Erick. The name of this game is NOT who is the most conservative but who can pull in Democrats and Independents in November. This Political Scientist thinks that you are all wet with your anti-Romney BS.

  • JSobieski

    set of people consisting of Democrats and Independents than any Republican will.You seem to ignore the importance of Republicans and conservatives in your analysis. Do those voters not matter?

    You falsely conclude that being devoid of any principle is the best way to appearl to moderates.

    There are many ways to appeal to independents.

    You totally ignore the dynamic nature of politics.

  • olds88er

    Please stop talking about “winning the base” and start talking about winning the White House. Our “base” will NOT beat Obama.

  • olds88er

    If it is anything a wife fears it is that her husband is cheating on her.
    And half of them do! They are the voters who killed Newt in Florida.

  • olds88er

    The Mormons are a missionary church. I have seen their missionaries all over the world. They are used to knocking on doors. Every Mormon will be walking the pavement for Mitt.

  • olds88er

    Barbour killed any political future with his pardons of murderers. Jeb Bush was a great Florida Governor while I lived there. The country will not buy another Bush as President.Obama would have a field day reminding us of George W. My best choice would be Christie at the Convention.

  • olds88er

    Ford, an incumbent, lost to Carter. Carter, an incumbent, lost to Reagan. LBJ, an incumbent, afraid that he would lose, refused to run. And don’t forget, in 2008 Obama had no record. Now he has. And it stinks!

  • olds88er

    Romney care was wanted by the people of Mass. and applies ONLY in Mass. Obamacare , I am sure, will be wiped out by The Supreme Court long before November.

  • trickamsterdam

    That was in response to a question about brokered convention candidates, and reveals much about Romney fans’ understanding of who is electable and who isn’t.

    LOL.

    Yeah, I think Jeb Bush would be the best too. Assuming it’s 1999.

    Do want you want. I made it clear many of us oppose Romney for reasons that our similar to those many would’ve had who opposed Cain…reasons of trust.

    Although, I have no problems w/Cain, because I really don’t care very much about peoples’ sex lives…I’d never be so foolish as to think other people wouldn’t though.

    In other words, it’s moral, not political, reasons, that people often have problems w/ Romney. He and his surrogates have lied in our faces too often about too many things we care about.

    The ship has sailed. The situation’s not reparable. No matter what he says or does from now on.

    This is not an election you’re going to win, w/ only 90-95% of the Base on board.

    Think that kind of percentage doesn’t make a difference? If you win 90% of the Black vote as a Democrat, you’re in good shape…only 85% and you’re probably a dead duck.

    So I don’t think I’m to blame for four more years of Obama. I think you are. For backing him so ardently against all matter of rational evidence and warnings.

    Romney’s not electable, for the simple fact that not enough people are left in the country that can stomach the act of voting for him.. There it is.

    PS – Romney Delenda Est

  • http://www.examiner.com/x-1597-Charlotte-Law--Politics-Examiner Mike gamecock DeVine

    I actually think Mitt does make devastating charges against Obama all the time that I would classify as red meat. The problem is that Mitt goes out of his way to insult the base and minimize Obama’s faults as merely due to lack of business experience when we know that Obama’s problem is his liberal ideology. There are many experienced business men that are liberals.

  • Finrod

    Newt would make Barack look like a college freshman in the first week of Speech 101 at the presidential debates, and that combined with the economy still being in the toilet would win Newt about 35 states or so.

  • Finrod

    .

  • Scope

    I heard this morning on Fox that Ann Romney is going to be doing a lot more talking on her husbands campaign trail. She has been perceived to be a lot more likable than Mitt. The only problem with that is that she isn’t running for the presidency, Mitt the unlikable is. Ann Romney has already measured the drapes at the WH, and has ordered the fabric. Ann Romney is already doing redecorating, including her husbands speeches. She said that Mitt wasn’t doing any more debates, and that she should be doing the talking, and she is making good on that statement. I honestly wonder if Ann Romney doesn’t want the WH even more than Mitt.

  • Ann_W

    Pretty good, even for you. Was Ann measuring for drapes also on Fox News?

    I remember the Bush campaign using Laura because she was likeable too. And how about all the Santorum kids lined up behind their dad at each campaign stop. Do they want the presidency more than him, too?

  • Scope

    and your inability to not be a mindless droning Romneybot. I’m surprised you didn’t accuse me of being a bigot because I don’t support your boy.

  • Ann_W

    You did actually make things up and jump to a conclusion based on that. Not exactly the best way to make a point.

  • JSobieski

    Wives have played an ever increasing roll in politics.

    Michelle is more popular than the President, and the campaign uses her similarly.

    I am glad Romney has a wife who is as effective as she appears to be. He needs the help.

  • Flagstaff

    Hot Air does it better, but both are helpful.

    I’m not sure how Norm Coleman can be portrayed as speaking for Romney when Romney repudiated what he said as soon as he said it.

    I agree with the quote attributed to Erick Erickson:

    “If a Republican gets into the White House and does not sweat blood trying to repeal Obamacare in its entirety (regardless of success), I predict the end of the Republican Party legitimately. It won?t be worth fighting for if the party itself does not think it worth fighting for its voters. If the GOP takes back the White House, it?s voters will expect a real fight, not a half-hearted attempt.”

    They should start by removing Mitch McConnell from Senate leadership. Jim DeMint had the right tactical approach and right strategy. McConnell is just a big, squishy marshmallow.

    Even if Romney has the “tin ear” that became a buzzword about him last week, he can still hear something with it, and what Erick wrote should be clear to even Mitt. He DOES read Redstate. (^:^)

    Romney won Michigan. Without the Dems who voted for Santo, it would have been a margin that is normally called a “landslide” in general elections. I’d prefer, if I were speaking for him, to say that even WITH those Democrats voting against him, he still had about 4% more votes than did Santo. Rick is also being Rick when he complains about the way that the two “super” delegates were awarded, threatening to sue, and running to the national Rep Party for help.

    Rick can’t help it. He’s a whiner, and it was holding him back until a few weeks ago, because it came through loud and clear in early debates. Then Obama threw him a bone by demanding Catholic hospitals provide abortifacients and he switched to criticizing Obama, which is OK with all of us. As soon as he started whining about the Michigan process, he started losing ground in Ohio.

    Romney has started campaigning as I hoped they all would from the beginning–he’s now running against Obama rather than against the other three.

    I got a laugh while watching the MI election wrap-up. It was announced that Donald Trump had made robocalls on Romney’s behalf, and that the “working people” and unemployed in Michigan love the guy. How can a guy ten times richer than Romney make a “connection” with the “common man” while Romney is “too rich” to do it?

  • independentconservative

    Once again, how is your candidate doing? Romney’s won NV, FL, MI, WA, AZ, amd ME again that’s better than your candidate. So you don’t trust Romney you little crybaby, who do you trust? You don’t want Jeb Bush yet you offer no solutions like a typical whining Republican. No new ideas. You offer no alternative (not that I’d even consider it because its about electability). Apparantly you don’t know how to read a Rasmussen or Gallup Head to Head poll which has Romney beating Obama.

    Fine I can see you are a lost cause because of Romney’s “lying” go ahead and vote your foolish pride for whatever moral candidate you want but I still going to blame you and people of your ilk for November if we get another 4 years. You are the idiot 10% of the “base” (I have my doubts because I real conservative, and a real Republican would put country over personal beliefs just like we all did in 2008 voting for McCain even though he was worse). I think calling you part of the “base” is an insult to the base. Get on board or get out is what I say. Go be a closet Democrat if that is what you really are because you either support or nominee or you don’t and again you know exactly what is going to happen in November if too many people think like you apparantly do.

    You seem to almost equate lack of trust with Romney to that of Obama and that is laughable. What the heck did Romney say or do that got your morals in a bind? All I can say is “hold a grudge much?” I don’t think he ever really had a chance at convincing you if all it took was one or two little “lies” which you refuse to reveal as to what supposedly did it for you. You have to think of the greater good. No candidate is perfect and every candidate says what they want the people to hear for the audience they are speaking, but smart politicos (not you) should be able to sift through it and form a reasonable opinion. I’d rent several movies or take some vacation time during the Tampa convention if I were you since you aren’t going be pleased with the results also repeat this process in November.