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Silencing the Right

Believing our ideas are superior is irrelevant when no one can hear you.

Last week, Rush Limbaugh suggested Sandra Fluke was a slut. The left immediately began calling for boycotts of his advertisers. He apologized on Saturday. Fluke refused to accept his apology claiming he did it under duress and the pressure has kept up.

It is organized and it has nothing to do with Limbaugh referring to Sandra Fluke as the same thing Ed Schultz referred to Laura Ingraham as. It has to do with a well executed PR strategy to frame a debate on mandating Americans subsidize the sexual habits of women as a war on women by the GOP. The media, which leans left already on social issues, would much rather focus on Rush Limbaugh than on the left’s PR strategy and Sandra Fluke’s own testimony.

What is happening here is an organized campaign by the left to shut down opposing views from the right. Much of this has to do with the right’s overall success in the past several decades. As more Americans consider themselves pro-life, even California constitutionally banned gay marriage, and most Americans agree with the right on mandates and global warming, the left has resorted to a new tactic — dialing up the outrage to shut up the right.

Many on the left and right, myself included, have said things we should not have said. The difference is that the left seizes on the statements made by the right as excuses to demand they never be heard from again and are unqualified to speak on any topic. They harass advertisers. They harass networks. They harass the conservative who said what it was as well. Any unforced error is seized to shut down the right in a way that does not apply to the left. If at first they are not successful, they will work to compound the story, manufacture outrage, and seize on statements and twist words to build a case against the conservative in question that they should be shut up and turned off.

Rarely do people on the right operate in the same aggressive way against the left.

Likewise, typically the right is willing to say their colleague should not have said what was said, but the left rarely speaks out as loudly about their own. The right more often apologizes for its own and more often the media expects the right to apologize for its own in a way that is not expected of the left.

It is a double standard and if the right does not do a better job of fighting fire with fire, the left will be emboldened to keep it up. Feminist groups, left wing blogs, unions, and community organizing groups stick together on these issues speaking with one voice to silence the right.

Free market groups, pro-life groups, and right-wing blogs rarely unite in such fashion. “It’s not our issue,” some of them will say. On the left, it is their shared issue. The gay rights group that feels insulted by Kirk Cameron speaking frankly about marriage will be joined by the feminists, the unions, etc. The social conservative group offended by Bill Maher probably won’t see free market groups rallying to the cause.

Because of it, both the free marketers and the pro-lifers should expect more and more attempts to get them both shut up. The left will unite and exploit divisions on the right.

Consider Richard Cohen today at the Washington Post. He “can find nothing of value” in Andrew Breitbart’s life in his column celebrating Breitbart’s death. Had a conservative said the same about someone on the left, there’d be a campaign today to get them driven from the Washington Post.

Consider Mike Malloy. On Friday, Malloy mocked Christians who were killed by tornadoes. Arguably few people pay attention to Malloy because he sucks as a radio host. I should know. I sit behind the microphone where he got his start. My ratings are better than his ever were. Nonetheless, Malloy has advertisers for his show. He has a poorly syndicated show. The left loves him. Why isn’t the right uniting to go after him? The Governors of Alabama, Mississippi, Arkansas, Georgia, and Oklahoma should be in on the game today calling his affiliates, his advertisers, etc. to take him off the air.

Bill Maher referred to Sarah Palin as a “dumb tw*t.” He has no advertisers, but only days later was parading around other television shows. He still does. Every time he appears on another network, the right should raise holy hell about it. He followed up that remark, by the way, by calling Palin a “c*nt” a week later. Still, in a way the media would never celebrate Rush Limbaugh, he’s heralded as some funny comedian for whom everyone rolls out the red carpet.

Montel Williams has a syndicated television show. On radio he said he hoped Michelle Bachmann would slit her wrists. Why is the right not protesting the Partnership for Prescription Assistance. He is their national spokesman.

We need not even get into Keith Olbermann and all the things he has said. He still has a show.

Whether it is supporting traditional marriage (don’t you dare refer to it as “normal”), opposing gay rights, offering alternatives to global warming, or generally championing conservatism, the left hasn’t been doing as well as they’d like so they have decided competing ideas can no longer be tolerated. Tolerance is only a virtue for their views.

Many of us, myself included, have made an unforced error. We should be charitable. Mistakes happen. Dumb things are said. I know it from my own life. I know it from the lives of friends and even opponents. Unfortunately, as the left has been losing the hearts and minds of the public, they’ve become less and less likely to give any pass, accept any apology, or turn any blind eye to the right. It is an ugly time in American politics because of the decline of charitable hearts between opponents. But it is also reality.

The left has united in this. It may not be one group’s cause, but that group will go all in with the others. The right will not do it. And because of that, the right will lose unless they change.

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COMMENTS

  • earlgrey

    teabagger by just about everyone in the mainstream media. Shouldn’t these companies have taken a stand then.

    One comment by one right wing talk show and they have zero tolerance, but as a private citizen seeking to protest my government I have been called a racist, a teabagger and other derogatory terms. The MSM has gone after a large number of private citizens with absolutely no consequences.

    Where is my phone call President Obama? When are you going to phone me?

  • http://twitter.com/zoltanne zoltanne

    I’ve always believed that a pack of dogs leaves little to desire — they eat, fight, breed, and sleep. And they always react with a the pack mentality, chosing to follow an alpha mad dog.

    The only way to deal with a pack of dogs is through aggression. Kindness is met with snarls or a bitten hand. And the mad dogs go for the jugular.

  • earlgrey

    We can’t afford to organize tea party rallies in support of Rush that would be like slitting our throats (or if you prefer the analogy, and I think you do, nominating Romney :) ).

  • Tbone

    The problem the Right has is it caves to the pressure from the Left. Call a spade a spade and let the people decide. I doubt that the Right lost any supporters over this. The Left just loves to whine and holler particularly when the truth stings. LET THEM!

    If some one says” You can’t call her a slut”, the response should be “She IS a slut and gas IS headed to $5.00 a gallon. Let’s talk about that.”

    The Right deserves to get kicked as long as it allows it.

  • drohan00

    I cancelled my carbonite today.

    I think the boycotting can go both ways. We don’t need them either. Conservatives can react properly to end the left’s manufactured outrage. They are awful people. We just need to recognize that.

  • Justin Spagnolo (standardcandle)

    Charity requires us to take the high road, it is precisely when the right takes the low road, that the left has something to groan about.

    I’m all for uniting with fellow conservatives. I’ll still support and defend Rush Limbaugh when people disparage him within my hearing radius. I don’t have to defend his comment so much as I would need to point out what he’s done in his career for so many good causes. What has Fluke done? What are the “fruits” that we may judge her by?

    The point is, although Rush meant it as a joke, it lowered the value of his program for that day… I get the fact that he’s in radio, and some times sensational things bring in listeners. I admire his ability to walk the fine line between wit and opprobrium everyday.

    So what is the appropriate response to this article? Should I become the right’s version of a foaming at the mouth shout-down liberal? Perish the thought.

  • Justin Spagnolo (standardcandle)

    nt

  • goodgovernance

    when people call on advertisers to boycott someone controversial, at least in principle. We conservatives have certainly employed the same tactic when we’ve called on advertisers to boycott a tv show with objectionable content, or when we got radio stations to pull songs from the Dixie Chicks after they admitted they were ashamed to be Americans. I thought the Dixie Chicks were ridiculous to portray themselves as the targets of censorship and I still do.

    Rush went a bit too far in his statement and the Left was able to make some hay out of it. It won’t be too long before the heat dies down and Rush’s advertisers will be back.

    Freedom of speech means the government or central authority can’t keep you from saying what you want to say. But there’s no reason the public can’t express its outrage in a civil fashion, even if it hits the pocket book of the target. It’s no different than boycotting a store you don’t like for its business practices.

  • deano64

    I’ve used Pro Flowers in the past. Never again.

    I agree with you Erick that we need to fight and fight dirty sometimes like the left does. None of our leaders have the stomach for it though. And we are the side that belevies in free speech no matter how ugly and wrong it is. If we try to stiffle free speech from the left and in reality become like them haven’t they won?

  • Ender

    the advertisers who cancelled of the manufactured nature of this outrage. Point them to evidence of Leftists organizing campaigns to call them, and that the outrage is not coming from the public at large but from a very partisan audience who is not even their customers.

    Why can’t we do that? It’s not about counter boycotting or threatening them back. We don’t even do that. The Right’s response to this organized campaign of intimidation is embarrassing and pathetic.

  • mikelindell2

    I know it’s being discussed but should be more. His situation is almost perfectly analogous to Rush’s. As we know, he called Laura Ingraham a slut twice, on his radio show like Rush did, and merely had to apologize and was taken off MSNBC for a week. Now he’s back and more hypocritical than ever, taking aim at Rush’s job. If we stay on message about the hypocrisy and dishonesty of the Schultz situation,it will vividly illustrate how hypocritical and dishonest the left is and will eventually force them to back down. Why should Schultz just have to apologize and get to keep his job while Rush should apologize and lose his job when their “crimes” are identical?.

  • streiff

    no one but you said this was a “free speech problem.”

  • veritaseequitas

    If the Right totally ignored the Left when they started with this kind of phony rabble rousing, the Left would be so surprised, that alone would would probably be enough to shut them up.
    Don’t apologize, don’t address the cry baby crap and move on to the real issue – like $5.00 a gallon gasoline for instance.
    But of course, all the networks want their ratings, so of course, they are going to go full tilt after it.

  • irishgirl

    No pun intended.

  • acat

    Apparently, the unrepentant path is sometimes the better one…at least in the court of public opinion.

    Mew

  • goodgovernance

    “silencing the right” and I took that to mean the Left was about to shut up the Right for once and for all. While I have no doubt they’d love to do that if they could, I just don’t think these boycotts are truly a threat. attempt at setting up straw men here.

    It’s not like we’ve been successful shutting up the Left with anything we’ve done. People are going to speak their minds, and find a way to do it. When the left owned mainstream media and kept conservative voices out, conservatives went first to the radio – which of course is why Rush became Rush. Now with the internet and a hugely diverse media landscape, the idea of the Left truly shutting the Right up just isn’t feasible with the kind of tactics they’re employing here.

    If using the term “freedom of speech” was erroneous, I apologize. I’m certainly not attempting to set up any straw men.

    But I don’t think Rush is even in any real trouble over this, let alone the Right as a whole.

  • http://www.tooncesthecat.wordpress.com tooncesthecat

    I think Erick is saying we should fight fire with fire (and rain down hell on those who provide a platform for the aforementioned left-wing thugs). Bill Maher’s show is broadcast by HBO. If you subscribe to HBO, you are helping keep him on the air. Call your cable or satellite television service provider immediately and cancel your subscription to HBO. Follow that up by sending HBO a letter explaining why you will no longer provide financial support for their network. If conservatives were to do this in large numbers, you can bet that HBO would cancel Bill Maher’s show.

    Are you paying for MSNBC. Check your bill. Change to a plan that doesn’t include MSNBC–that’s what I have done.

    Stop buying from companies who advertise on Meet the Press, Face the Nation, Montel Williams, Ed Schultz, Keith Obermann, Chris Matthews, etc. Please someone give us a list.

    The answer is not to defend or to apologize for boorish statements from conservatives. We must instead vigorously attack the left-wing media where it hurts–the pocketbook and the ratings.

  • flguy

    I’ve often pondered this sort of situation over the last twenty years or so, and I’ve come to a few conclusions.

    1. The left often wins these types of situations because they organize. Most conservatives work, live their lives, want to be left alone to live their lives, and don’t organize. The left does. Therefore their voices get magnified beyond anything you hear coming from the lone voices on the right in more circumstances.

    2. The right has standards and morals, mostly because those on the right are quite often religious. As long as the left does not have any compunctions concerning morality, they can take the gloves off and really go at it without any thought to holding back in any way; nothing is off limits for their side.

    3. As long as the left controls both the mainstream media outlets and the educational system, we on the right will be at a distinct disadvantage both in getting our side of an issue out into the public conversation, and in being able to convince the public of the rightness of our causes, because they have already been brainwashed by the government-run public schools and liberal universities.

    Conservatism wins when it overcomes these obstacles. The Tea Party was a great first step in dealing with the organization hurdle. Fox News, sites like RedState, and talk radio have helped with the problem of getting the message out. Churches across the country could help with the other by making a huge part of their ministry into an educationally focused one, providing private, alternative schooling to the public school systems across the country.

  • goodgovernance

    because this is where the Left wants this fight. The more attention we give to it, the more we’re letting Obama and the Left off the hook for the weak economy, high gas prices, and misguided policies, because we’re fighting the war on their terms.

    I totally agree this outrage is ginned up but it’s ginned up in order to produce a Democrat victory in November. Recent polls have shown Republicans have a widening favorability gap amongst women compared to Dems, and that gap was already too wide to begin with. That’s all because the Left has been stirring up this ridiculous “war against women” thing, but when women hear Santorum say some of the things he has, and Rush say the unfortunate thing he did, they get concerned, and no one on the Right is being all that reassuring to them.

    On the other hand, if we just shrug this off for the stupidity it is, it goes away, and maybe we can actually move on to a topic that’s important and hurts the Dems. Let’s fight the war on our terms.

  • streiff

    as Erick points out, there really isn’t any “right” in the way there is a “left” so when a social conservative gets into trouble the typical reaction of the fiscon wing of our movement is to say “not my issue.” In this way, one by one conservative voices become marginalized and when they are mentioned in press reports half the story is devoted to their controversies.

  • Aaron Gardner

    nt

  • Justin Spagnolo (standardcandle)

    I haven’t had T.V. or cable in 10 years. So I guess I’ve been boycotting all this time. :D

    Frankly, from my perspective there isn’t much that HBO offers that isn’t filth and dross. That’s exactly the cesspool where Bill Maher belongs.

    As far as attacking the “left-wing” media… have you seen their ratings? The attack has been going on for a while now… but its not so much of an attack as it is, poor programming leads to poor ratings.

    Just sayin’. :D

  • anjinconsulting

    nothing gets a capitalist’s attention faster than declining profits. Secondly you call a spade a spade and point out the double standard in the most public and appropriate setting.

    Can you imagine what would have happened on the sunday talk shows if someone were to actually take Fluke’s argument at face value and then dissect it as the tripe that it was?

  • drohan00

    We don’t need to even pay attention to them.. We just need to realize that when they attack, we need to be an eagle eye and stand up for Rush, et al.

  • goodgovernance

    I did. Thanks, though!

  • clowngirl

    And maybe Rush and EIB should (temporarily) give free or discounted ad space to the competitors of the advertisers who left.

    (they’d be showing a certain amount of courage and so would somewhat deserve it- and if there was a mass switch-over and a lot of new business, they might find it worthwhile to become paying advertisers)

  • funwithknives

    I heard Rush say this and instantly knew he got carried away, in spades. I’ve done myself, a time or 15. However, to not cover his butt one time and advance left him open .as we can all plainly see. He allowed the hidden-message seekers and such,to run his game and he lost this one.
    Just as Barry continually gives Us the weapons to defeat HIM {by running his omnipresent mouth} Rush did likewise, this time around.{and gave Progressives, The Whip Hand}
    In this day and age of relativistic thought and self-centeredness, sometimes you just gotta stick a sock in it.
    Like it or lump it, she’s someone’s daughter and there are moderate parents everywhere. Rush has been doing this long enough to know same, LARGE.
    Better luck next time,little to look at here…….

  • goodgovernance

    And we all know the Left has thrown everything they have at him. He’s target number one for them. And yet he not only continues, but thrives.

    Meanwhile, the Left has trouble getting any kind of Leftist radio or television network going. Keith Olbermann of MSNBC went on a path of self-destruction and is now relegated to that Al Gore station few people even get with their cable package, let alone watch.

    I guess I’m not so concerned about the Left silencing the Right because I have faith in the marketplace of ideas. That might sound corny or naive, but despite the dominance of the Left, the nation is still right of center, because our arguments are better than theirs. The truth wins out in the long run.

  • Jack_Savage

    I may not have time to march, but I do have time to call a company. I may not have time to attend every public meeting, but I do have time to encourage friends to boycott companies, and do it myself.

    We need to strike back, and do it now, and keep it going. How, specifically? That’s what we need to know, and to do.

  • streiff

    being important is much harder. How many candidates want Rush to go on the campaign trail with them?

    You are really missing the entire point. They don’t need to “get any kind of Leftist radio or television network going” the existing networks are leftist.

  • http://www.doctor-bob.biz rsklaroff

    …because [as I wrote yesterday] Rush seemed out-of-sorts BUT [as he asserted] Rush rejects advertisers who won’t benefit the listeners.

    Clearly, a shake-out occurred and, thus, I will be more intent upon using his advertisers [including whomever displaces Carbonite].

    Clearly, he will not relinquish his #1 spot noting that, for example, he episodically referred to “if you are a new listener….”

    But he didn’t do this to enhance his market-share; this was simply his schtick [although it was a bit much to request the videos...].

    Notwithstanding the froth emanating from Rachel and Ed…who were indeed revved-up last night [and it's amazing how they could spend so much time saying so little without fearing they would bore their audiences]…this may be a natural shaking-out [including the three radio stations, in Baltimore, Massachusetts and Hawaii].

    http://www.mediaite.com/online/report-first-radio-station-drops-the-rush-limbaugh-show/

    Remember how the FCC wanted to regulate? This may simply be a manifestation of this intent, for sufficient exposure precluded their ability to reinstitute the Fairness Doctrine [and the "local control" criterion seems not to have been pushed].

    The go-forward mode should be to do precisely what occurred in the past…for it worked and promises to keep working.

  • shaneper

    was actually the original name that the organization gave themselves before they figured out what it meant. So, I guess there’s a chance that people are just reiterating what they heard the Tea-Partiers call themselves.

    And it wasn’t 1 comment. I think he said it 53 times.

    And can we please quit with the whining about the MSM? Give me a break. If you can’t stand the heat, get out of the kitchen. This is life – people will not like your position. Tell me what you think, sure – but enough the media blame. If the GOP loses this election it will be their own fault. Not the media.

  • Jack_Savage

    Ask North Koreans about the marketplace of ideas. Ask the Coptic Christians in Egypt about how the truth is doing over there. Ask Ann Coulter about free speech in Canada.

    Silencing opposition is the first step, and there is not a marketplace in the world that will help once it is done.

  • Aaron Gardner

    Also, you say that your original comment was a reaction to the title. I guess I should not believe what you write from now on.

  • shaneper

    Um, no. We’re actually for real mad here. You should not be able to to about calling someone a slut and a prostitute on a national radio talk show and get away with it when it’s absolutely not true.

  • Justin Spagnolo (standardcandle)

    We ought to say what we mean to say… Rush should never have said something that he would have to apologize for later… at the same time he shouldn’t have to filter nary a word on behalf of an unapologetic leftist…

    Rush should be proud to only have sponsors and advertisers that both support and understand the message as he seems fit to deliver. But we know the real world doesn’t work that way… and those sponsors caving to the left will be back to lick Limbaugh’s hand 6 months from now as their customer base shrinks… seriously how many leftists worry about gold and indentity theft?

    Which is why Tbone deserves a microphone… because he doesn’t have a filter… filters are for politicians and bureaucrats.

  • streiff

    you know this how?

  • http://twitter.com/zoltanne zoltanne

    Earlgrey, this is such a great article and sums up the sentiments of many conservatives. Rush’s actions weren’t predicted but the attack on Rush was. The (D)s knew that by putting Fluke in the spotlight, there would be kneejerk reactions. That’s what they planned for. There is BIG power and BIG money behind this. Beck was removed from FOX already. Now Rush. Coincidence or planned strategy?

    It’s going to get much worse. The (R) should not allow a set-up to occur, nor should they even consider participating in what we know is crooked MSM. A complete and total blackout is warranted. Does the (R) have it in them to quit enabling them?

  • sharrondeer

    If you want to be factual, that is. Schultz apologized immediately afterwards for having said it. Rush attacked Ms Fluke for three days and only “apologized” after people outside of his listeners caught wind of it and got outraged.

    It doesn’t help that Rush’s attack wasn’t supported by the facts of the matter. The taxpayers aren’t involved, so the entire analogy is unfounded. Not to mention that she was advocating for women’s health, not sexual behavior, and that the president of Georgetown University has supported her actions.

  • goodgovernance

    But even so, they can’t entirely control the narrative anymore. This battle’s been going on for quite some time, and I don’t think anyone’s going to win it with a silencing bomb or marginalization ray.

    I’ve got no problem with the idea of the Right working on boycotts of their own, though. What’s good for the goose is good for the gander, and it’s fine for the public to occasionally remind Leftist elites what is mainstream, and what is not.

  • Justin Spagnolo (standardcandle)

    To ask for federal mandates to pay for her sexual activity… I’d be so inclined as to consider myself a failure as a parent and I might silently agree with Rush… and potentially try to use his words as a teaching moment.

    But hey I am old fashioned.

  • funwithknives

    But the run on this term was really brief for the reasons you state, and Progressives full well know the slang term.
    Yet they continue to use it, while those directly involved many times are totally unaware of the use/definition of the term. I belong to a TEA party and I can tell you from experience lotsa members are unknowing of this scenario.When informed, often I am looked at like Grey Aliens must experience. It’s unthinkable to them.
    Not long ago I had a chance to be called a *TeaBagger* by a Typecast Progressive, in mixed company. When I called him out on it, he got scarce in a very short time. no fists and no shouting. Just ask them to define the term to all present. You win, each and every time.

  • goodgovernance

    Then you’re right. I don’t think we’re quite there yet.

  • Ender

    pokes head in.

  • http://twitter.com/zoltanne zoltanne

    yesterday and it’s already shipped out. I’ve had it before and love to serve it to my folks who stupidly voted Obama and have lived to regret it. The tea tastes much better than salt in a wound…

  • vangoghssister

    Let’s call them what they are. A bully is a bully is a bully.

    I absolutely agree with canceling services who decline to sponsor a program just because the left has bullied them into it. I quit watching regular TV a long time ago and haven’t had cable in 15 years.

    I found this on Google:
    MSNBC and Chris Matthews Advertisers on Sunday Feb. 12, 2012

    Advair
    American Petroleum Institute
    Aqua Velva
    Audi
    Audi Ft. Myers 239 454 444
    Caption telephones, as seen on CapTelOffer.com
    Charles Schwabb
    Chevron
    Comcast
    Febreze
    Fitzgeralds, Bonita Springs, FL
    GE
    ING ING.Com/US
    Kushner and Kushner (lawyers)
    Lexus
    Liberty Mutual 888 853-3144
    Nature Valley Granola Bars
    NBC
    New York Times
    Northern Trust
    Phillips (Colon Health)
    Porsche (in Naples and Ft. Myers FL)
    Raymond James financial advertiser
    Recreational Warehouse (in Naples and Ft. Myers FL)
    Sleep Number (beds) 1-800 Sleep Number
    The Stage in Bonita Beach

    I found this when googling who Limbaugh’s advertisers are. WARNING – this is a blog by a woman who is firmly in the Feminazi camp and may give you indigestion. There is an interesting response by David (?) Friend at Carbonite. There is a good list of sponsors for Rush’s show.

    http://malialitman.wordpress.com/2012/03/02/reporting-on-companies-who-still-advertise-on-the-rush-limbaugh-show/

  • sharrondeer

    Google anything that conservatives care about and virtually every hit on the first page is from a conservative blog. Unfortunately, that also means that when someone gets something wrong, people see the same misinformation repeated over and over.

    Given the huge number of conservative blogs and sites — far outnumbering the number of liberal ones — there must be quite a number of conservatives who have enough free time on their hands to update them.

  • streiff

    they do control the narrative.

    The average American still gets their news from one of the big 3 nightly news shows or a newspaper… more likely than not a Gannett product. If they do read news online they do it on Yahoo or AOL or similar. To put that in perspective, CBS Evening News — the broadcast cellar dweller — pulls about 2-3 times the audience of any FoxNews program.

  • goodgovernance

    And I’m free not to be bothered much, either way.

  • rightland1111

    make no mistake. It seems that the Obama Administration is throwing everything but the kitchen sink at us to get us to react.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gjJrmWbHM2I&sns=fb

    Another example. They are waiting for us to snap…make a mistake..and then it’s martial law…and well, he can then say the same as Putin “President Forever. Am I overstating this…look at what has transpired in three short years.

  • Viet71

    The ordinary Dem voter is a tame sheep. Speaking here from considerable firsthand knowledge. These folks SAY they dislike conservatives, but they’ll be pals and even bed-mates. Again, firsthand knowledge.

    The Leftist leaders and mouthpieces are altogether different. They lie and are cynical and without principle or real morals. Again firsthand knowledge.

    Those on the Right need to understand who is the true opponent and allocate resources and responses accordingly.

  • Aaron Gardner

    Seems you are more bothered than you are letting on.

  • goodgovernance

    As evidenced by polling on the matter. If CBS News really controlled the narrative, Dan Rather would not only have prevented GW Bush’s re-election, he would have made sure Mondale won in a 49 state landslide in 84, not Reagan.

    People are going to choose the news sources they’re the most comfortable with. At least now they have more choices than ever, RedState being one of them.

  • Justin Spagnolo (standardcandle)

    For real mad :) NT…

  • Seedyrom

    throwing it up in their faces.

    Liberal Kirsten Powers attacked her own with this article. WTG girl!!!

    http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2012/03/04/rush-limbaugh-s-apology-liberal-men-need-to-follow-suit.html

  • sharrondeer

    Boycotting and/or pressuring advertisers has long been used as a tactic by people from the entire spectrum. Most recently we did the same thing in order to get “American Muslim” cancelled.

    On a separate, more important note:

    If we could manage to stick to principles and facts, we could win. But too much of what comes from (some) conservatives is demonstrably wrong and that creates doubt in people’s minds about everything that is said by us. This drives me crazy, not only because it embarrasses me but because it undermines my ability to convince people.

  • Jack_Savage

    You don’t go from freedom to being killed or arrested. You go down the path we are on right now, bit by bit, piece by piece.

    Do you think Germany was full of rabid Jew-haters? No, it was full of people who went to work, and raised their families, and didn’t complain or make waves as Hitler’s grip grew tighter. When they realized what was happening, it was far, far too late.

    “You’re comparing the left to Hitler! You lost the argument! Apologize! Apologize!”

    No, I’m not. I’m pointing out that freedom is lost in bits and pieces, not all at once, and if history shows us anything, it is that.

  • jon11

    If you grew up in america, you grew up in a mostly white, mostly Christian country where our values were the dominant values and many of us have a hard time imagining an America where that is no longer the reality.

    but it gets closer to becoming reality every day. The left has a pack mentality because they’ve been fighting to turn traditional values and founding principles on their head since the 60s. They do what they have to do to win. They don’t give a damn about principles.

    The ends justify the means.

    I don’t agree with abandoning principles but i do agree with not splitting hairs. Theres a big difference and frankly what we’ve been doing on the right that the left never does is splitting hairs. we are a very fractured group and we need to be more realistic about what it takes to win elections.

    A house divided against itself cannot stand. A much wiser man than myself once said that.

    Im optimistic. The right is waking up from a long sleep. Now it just needs a little organizing and a little unifying.

  • acat

    It’s an unforced error on Rush’s part. He’s stepped in stuff before, and has to have known this is going on.

    Why now?

    Mew

  • streiff

    think about it.

  • westcoastpatriette

    We can’t have it both ways. I heard Rush apologize for his poor choice of words — and he meant it. As Erick said, we all say things we regret or wish we would have said differently. But to think we have to resort to the left’s style of fighting in order to be winning is a mistake.

    The reason we don’t organize in groups to silence and ostracize is because we are adults and truly believe in liberty and individual responsibility. The left behave like adolescent cowards and bullies that run in packs and try to intimidate rather than persuade. And while it is tempting to react in kind, generally speaking, most conservatives don’t hold grudges and are quick to forgive when someone misses the mark. Or remove themselves from people or groups they do not like or want to associate with — rather than try to change them or eliminate them.

    I guess my point is that we still have the moral high ground and perseverance and persistence will win in the end. When we are forced to push back, we do. And that is the point we are at now and why so much of the discourse is so sour.

  • funwithknives

    more if I was twins, but that is not my point.
    Progressives have little to no shame ,nor modesty. Anything for their Cause Celebre’ , and time after time they prove it.
    Have you heard a word out her parents, even now? Silence is acceptance, in a real world. Progressives harp on this topic, continually.{Why are they always screaming about seemingly everything? They want change everywhere}
    As you saw, the Left has few morals/scruples and you cannot expect something another person seemingly can’t or won’t deliver.{Never expect anything, let ‘em surprise you…}
    Think you’ll ever hear from Mum & Dad? Probably hanging their heads but who can tell? *Activists* have beginnings too….

  • Marcus_Traianus

    I spent a fair amount of yesterday cancelling the products of advertisers (and their subsidiaries) that abandoned Rush’s show. They have been replaced with competitive products. I will not be using their products any time soon.

    Remember you advertise there, due to the large audience and particular demographic you want to reach. You associated your company with that person to leverage his reputation. Did you really believe that in abandoning that person you would be viewed as…principled and retain those customers? That’s laughable.

    I have no use for any company that does not support free-speech and can’t recognize a contrite, sincere apology. In my house we call that a coward.

  • colonelflagg

    Rush didn’t stand up for himself. Hard to stand up for someone under those circumstances.

    He blew it with the apology. Flat out blew it. He can get a pass on this because he’s been a titan for the movement but he retreated, and Fluke will forever be known as the woman who faced down Rush Limbaugh. Since they set the media agenda in this country, that’s the way it’ll be no matter what we say.

    Hurts like a son of a gun to say it, but the left will try to ram that down our throats for years. Don’t think they won’t.

  • mikelindell2

    Counter the fake cries of outrage from the left directed at these companies with your own. Contact these companies and let them know you will not be using their services/products anymore because of their decision. Also, probably beneficial to contact the companies that are still sponsors of Rush’s show and urge them not to leave.

  • earlgrey

    and his viewers. Yet they are reinforcing the double standard against the right and conservatives.

  • earlgrey

    I don’t think I use any of his advertisers, although I was on a Shari’s Berries kick for a while for gifts., I hope they haven’t jumped off as I just ordered some for my mom’s birthday. I did let Proflowers know that I wouldn’t be ordering flowers from them, but I never have.

  • Justin Spagnolo (standardcandle)

    Rush pointed out an ugly truth that will motivate people to see the slippery slope we’re on with mandates … killing the
    messenger effectively kills the message… ‘woman’s health’ in the context of contraceptives will no longer be an effective euphemism.

    Rush knows he’s untouchable… so he stepped in it on purpose.

  • Justin Spagnolo (standardcandle)

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  • acat

    from his herd of advertisers.

    “Rush said {something} about {candidate} and Carbonite pulled their advertising” will hurt a lot more in October than March.

    Mew

  • Justin Spagnolo (standardcandle)

    ..notext..

  • unsk

    We have always known that the Left were out to destroy this great nation. That they don’t play fair is not new going all the way back to the Bolsheviks.

    But the reason the Left’s attack on America gain traction is that moderates, and in particular, RINO’s give their attacks credibility. RINO’s will always defend the Left. Anytime a conservative lambasts a dyed in the wool Leftie for one of their many outrages, you can almost guarantee some RINO politician or media stooge like David Brooks will rush out to blunt and undermine the conservative argument. Conversely, 99% of the time, RINO’s reserve their harshest criticism for conservatives, not the left.

    Case in point, our soon to be GOP Presidential Nominee Willard Romney :
    .?It?s very easy to excite the base with incendiary comments,? Romney told reporters. ?We?ve seen throughout the campaign that if you?re willing to say really outrageous things that are accusatory and attacking President Obama that you?re going to jump up in the polls. You know, I?m not willing to light my hair on fire to try and get support. I am who I am.?….

    What Romney has really said here is that all those absolutely necessary and deserving criticisms of Buraq’s attacks on our civil liberties are not to be taken seriously and are the works of kooks. Romney has effectively just said he will never, ever defend your constitutional rights against the onslaught from the Left, and in fact by his very silence will assist those taking your rights.

    Just when we are on the verge of losing those very rights that keep us free, we are about to nominate a Socialist Progressive who will help that those rights away. The GOP is no longer the Stupid Party, it is the Insane Party.

    I will never ever vote for this lying scum who is buying this election, and I will attack anyone , anywhere, anytime who tries to defend him.

  • usedtobelib

    knew he had been played. In fact, before he said, “it,” he had already handed the Left the issue. In fact, I began cursing Rush when I reminded myself that Rush is what he is–a talk show bloviator, a guy who’s first interested in his own ratings, and only tangentially interested in the GOP winning the Presidency.

  • Scope

    picking up advertising for many of the competitors of those advertisers that left him. He made many of them like Carbonite and Sleep Number Beds, and he can just as easily break them also. It appears that many of those advertisers decided based on politics, and like everything Obama and the liberals touch, they lose and go bankrupt, like Solyndra and the many other companies Obama visited. How about the Volt? LOL There are no other radio stations that have the wide audience that Rush has. I remember when the left did the same thing to Glen Beck with his TV show.

  • mikelindell2

    So you’re saying that Ed Schultz apologized out of the goodness of his heart without any pressure to do so????? Rush’s controversial statement was made on one day, he didn’t continue calling her a “slut” for three days. ” Women’s health” is the biggest fraud the left has created recently. Paying someone to have sex is not a “health” issue, it’s just another handout from the entitlement party. And how do you ever figure that it would not cost taxpayers money? Do you not realize that for every giveaway health insurers are mandated to cover, the price of insurance for the rest of us goes up? And we already subsidize, and will subsidize much more under Obamacare, many people’s health insurance, the same health insurance that will be skyrocketing because of ridiculous mandates designed to appeal to the moochers in return for their vote. While I may not be paying for Ms. Fluke’s insurance, this mandate would apply to all insurance plans, not just hers.

  • wilsonreagan

    I just emailed Time Warner( Parent Company of HBO). I am canceling my subcription today. In addition, I have road runner high speed internet service through Time Warner as of today I am looking for a new provider of that service and will boycott ever Time Warner service or media product until Bill Maher is taken off the air. This country is in a fight for it’s very existence and conversatives still are fighting with wrong set of rules and play book. Either we take the fight to them or we’re going to lose if we have not already.

  • acat

    Liberals can post .. they just have to follow the same posting rules as everyone else.

    Mew

  • mikelindell2

    I never said she couldn’t be posting

  • goodgovernance

    Which I now understand wasn’t really the point of the original piece.

    As I wrote in my original post, I don’t think any of this boycotting stuff is really threatening anyone’s constitutional freedoms. We boycott, they boycott. Sometimes effectively, sometimes not. The debate continues in one way or another, so long as the line doesn’t get crossed. And that line is when threats to life and limb enter the picture.

    Your “good Germans” argument that suddenly they woke up one morning to the loss of freedom doesn’t hold up. By the time the Nuremberg Laws were enacted, and certainly by the time Jews were being rounded up, that was when Germany should have fought back against the Nazis.

  • runner12

    Did Rush make a poor choice of words? Yes. Did he apologize? Yes.
    Ms. Fluke’s unwillingness to accept it confirms the information that has been circulating about her that she is a shill for the Left. She has been a professional activist for the Left for sometime now and she will milk her 15 minutes for all that it is worth.

    What infuriates me is the bullying attempts by the Left to shut-down someone they disagree with because he made a mistake. But this is their MO. They will shut down those on their own who step out of line, ie Juan Williams.

    The reality is that the modern Left is composed of the most intolerant, bigoted people ever seen in recent times. They will bully, ridicule, mock, and attack anyone who dares disagree with them.

    Tolerance means nothing to these people, unless they are lecturing us on how we need to sit down and shut-up. Well, I will not and many others who think like I do will not.

  • http://twitter.com/zoltanne zoltanne

    Part of the far-left Alinsky strategy is to attack the common sense and logic of conservatives. Conservatives are actually well known for their standards, morals, and factual logic and Alinsky urged his followers to use these things to their advantage, knowing Conservatives would not ‘stoop so low’ as the far-left activists would.

  • westcoastpatriette

    over the last few days that listed all of the advertisers who dropped Limbaugh and their names and contact numbers. I tried to find them but can’t. Sorry.

  • jsmills

    Do we have data to support this claim?

    Like it or not it seems that pro-life numbers are down last 2 years, from 51% in 2009 to 45% last year, about where it was a decade ago:
    http://www.gallup.com/poll/147734/americans-split-along-pro-choice-pro-life-lines.aspx

    One could posit that strident talk a la Rush may have contributed to decreased support from the broader public.

  • macbookben

    …continue to buy ads on Beck, Hannity, and Levin. So I guess Rush still is the tip of the bayonet.

    Now I’ve got to go get my oil changed at a BG vendor while drinking some Two if by Tea while my wife suffers a hard drive crash checking Facebook on our 12 year old Stearns and Foster and wonders what I’ll be getting her on Mothers’ Day.

  • gsatt

    You were falsely mislead to beleive you insulted. The VICTIM of a teabagger is the pissed off party

    It’s the art of Dropping your nutz on someones face while they’er passed out. I would have no problem teabagging a socialist.

    http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=teabag

    get some giggles, ITS PARTY TIME

    OPBAMA – TEABAGGED IN 2012 (why is this not a bumper sticker???)

  • Joshua Persons

    I agree – what Rush said was offensive. It was wrong. It didn’t help anything. He shouldn’t have said it. But I have two questions:

    1) Can you agree with me that Rush has the right to say what he did, even though it was offensive? Can you agree with me to defend the rights of Americans to speak their mind, even when offensive, rude, or wrong?

    2) Can you describe for us how mad you were when Maher called Sarah Palin similar vicious names? When Montel wished for Bachmann’s suicide? Or really, pick any of the examples from the original post.

    Answering these two questions will clarify the level of credibility we should give to your outrage.

  • gsatt

    http://badwraps.phpwebhosting.com/stickerheads2597/index.php?main_page=product_info&products_id=1181

    I shoulda researched first eh?

  • earlgrey

    ?Allstate (added 3/5/12) (statement)
    ?AOL (added 3/5/12) (statement)
    ?Bonogbos (added 3/5/12) (statement)
    ?Carbonite (added 3/2/12) (statement)
    ?Citrix (added 3/2/12) (statement)
    ?LegalZoom (added 3/3/12) (statement)
    ?ProFlowers (added 3/4/12) (statement)
    ?Quicken Loans (added 3/2/12) (statement)
    ?Sears (added 3/5/12) (statement)
    ?Sleep Train Mattress Centers (added 3/2/12) (statement)
    ?Select Comfort/Sleep Number (added 3/2/12) (statement)
    ?Tax Resolution Services (added 3/5/12) (statement)

  • Marcus_Traianus

    Cowards all.

    Sleep Number,
    The Sleep Train,
    Quicken Loans,
    Legal Zoom,
    Citrix,
    Carbonite,
    ProFlowers,
    AOL,
    Bonobos,
    Sears /KMART
    Allstate Insurance
    Bare Escentuals
    Sensa Weight Loss
    Vitacost

    Oh and Peter Gabriel demanded that Rush stop using his music. Those CD’s, oddly, have some 5.56 holes in them. Others were deleted from the iPod

  • earlgrey

    http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/nation/la-na-limbaugh-20120306,0,5753459.story

    How old do you think that picture is of Rush? He doesn’t look like that now.

  • http://www.doctor-bob.biz rsklaroff

    …and Rush won’t miss you [or those ex-advertisers] when you tune-in elsewhere.

  • jaykali

    Conservatives have to win by taking the higher ground. Calling someone a ‘slut’ as part of a drawn-out analogy however clever was completely overshadowed by the slut language. I think that now the left has an actual example of ‘right wing hate’ they can trot out there whenever there’s a school shooting whereas recently they haven’t had much of anything.

    Limbaugh steps in it from time to time and it just feeds the narrative of the ‘angry white guy conservative’ – it doesn’t matter that Bill Maher says shocking things every week bc no one cares what he says.

  • tennesseeboy

    …but this was not a “poor choice of words”. He waged a days-long, sexualized, verbal assault on this woman. He didn’t merely call her a “slut,” he said that she should be forced to post pornographic videos of herself on the internet for all of us to watch. How can we claim to be a movement of “family values” and even talk this way? As to what those on the Left have done, who cares? None of the figures mentioned above — Schultz, Maher, Cohen, etc. — have anything approaching the influence that Rush does on the Right. They simply don’t. I’m sorry, but this just cannot be sensibly blamed on the Left; Rush talked his way into this one. For a movement that ostensibly values personal responsibility and ethics, neither Rush nor his defenders are showing much of it, here.

  • macbookben

    on his show today. He said Rush ought to do as The Masters did during the NOW flare up over Hootie Johnson’s defense of Augusta National’s club membership policy of excluding women. His solution? He cancelled all the TV ad spots and the 2003 tournament was broadcast commercial free. The irony here is that while Rush’s big sponsors bailed out under pressure, Hootie excused his outright.

  • Common_Cents

    I’m not sure why people keep referencing how weak the left wing media is.

    Is there 10% of the entire media complex that votes Republican?

    Why do we have foaming at the mouth Democrats hosting our freakin RNC debates?

    The left wing media wields tremendous power and we should not belittle it.

    Republicans not having a plan to combat this is downright mind boggling. Why don’t we have media boot camp for all elected in the Republican party? It’s so basic and beyond me why there isn’t even an attempt to do so.

    If Gingrich doesn’t get the nomination he’d be the perfect guy to take up where Breitbart left off on taking on the media. He is good at it. Look at his smackdown of David Gregory on meet the depressed last sunday.

  • https://www.facebook.com/#!/pages/Gary-Stein/161097993929079 Gary Stein

    http://www.nctimes.com/news/local/military/exclusive-tea-party-marine-says-he-s-in-trouble-for/article_87d1afa7-985d-5e9d-a190-94bc99e134b6.html

  • https://www.facebook.com/#!/pages/Gary-Stein/161097993929079 Gary Stein

    Yesterday we reported that Gary Stein, the founder of Armed Forces Tea Party, was under fire again from the Marine Corps for comment made about Obama. He is officially being investigated for ?making disloyal comment about the President?. The comments in question were made by his personal Facebook profile during a discussion about ?NATO allowing the trial of US Troops for burning the Koran? on a Facebook Group and since been deleted. At this time he does not have a copy of the screen capture, which was sent by a Senior Enlisted Marine to his command. Although he has seen it and it was not a capture of the whole discussion just of a portion of it. The direct comment in question was on how he will not follow the orders off Obama. What was not give to the Marine Corps was the rest of the discussion which he further explained what those orders were unlawful orders and why. He went on to explain in the discussion that he respects the office but to the person. He has expressed that he does not mean disrespect to the office of the President, but he does not agree with the polices the Obama administration continues to press upon the people. He has since contacted Camp Pendleton base legal and was advised not to talk about the case. Also he will not be given a lawyer by the Marine Corps until his command give him a piece of paper stating what his if being investigated for. He is now back at work and filling his duties. This is an unfortunate event that stems from Military members that are not correctly educated on the 1st amendment. Members of the military have the right to say or to write what they think, up to a point. They can?t say things that encourage violence (other than as part of authorized military operations) or urge others to violate military regulations. Our military leaders need to understand and respect our rights. They need to realize that civic-minded engagement by our fighting men and women is not a sign of military weakness, but rather a sign of military strength.

  • macbookben

    and done that. He made that comment in 2001 about the bravery the hijackers mustered up in order to fly a jetliner into the WTC, and was duly sacked by ABC. Now he bravely makes sophomoric cracks about conservative women’s genitalia and brags that he has no sponsors to lose. Thank you for taking that dare, good sir.

  • Kyle-MI

    Even Rush admitted he was wrong in his choice of words. He apologized, twice now. It is disingenuous of Fluke and the left not to accept his apology. They are not accepting it because he is under duress? Yet, their solution is to increase the pressure (duress). This puts Rush in a no-win situation and they know it. Therefore, their intent is not to get an apology. They have crossed a line and are playing a situation in order to silence an opposing point of view. They are the ones who are insincere. This is what needs to be hammered again and again.

  • irishgirl

    And you should not be able to go before Congress and misrepresent yourself. For real.

  • Kyle-MI

    I don’t listen to Rush, and I am not a big fan, but I seriously doubt you listen either.

  • streiff

    you’ve been told to shut up. There is a difference.

    You have a real misunderstanding of the First Amendment versus good order and discipline of a unit trade off. This is a case of shooting yourself in the foot and then complaining because it hurts.

  • earlgrey

    Naturally I haven’t lost sleep over it. I just wonder why those advertisers were unwilling to stand up for me and so many like me, but they stand up for the 30 year old with a $24,000 scholarship who complains about the cost of birth control while she attends a DC area school with plenty of taxpayer funded Planned Parenthood “clinics” around doling it out. Did she not meet their minimum income requirement?

  • http://www.erickerickson.org Erick Erickson

    That this is an appropriate discussion at RedState.

  • clowngirl

    And I would agree with you that the word “slut” should not be used on national tv or radio – along with a lot of other 4 letter words.

    We relented when Letterman apologized. Rush has apologized now, and liberals should let it go.

    Rush was right to apologize. That doesn’t mean the outrage isn’t “manufactured” in the sense that liberals are intentionally fanning the flames and that they don’t particularly care when broadcasters, pundits, etc. use terms like slut (or imply it) about women of the right.

    This isn’t about genuine outrage over disrespectful treatment of women — it’s about an excuse to attack Rush Limbaugh and cause a distraction.

    If it were a genuine concern about disrespecting women (and I’m not saying there isn’t some of that that liberals are happy to exploit) — you’d hear people talking about how both sides have done it and it’s not about pointing fingers it’s just time that it all stopped.

    Rush was wrong (and he’s apologized) but he doesn’t need to be taken off the air over this and he shouldn’t be singled out.

  • Finrod

    Ed Schultz called Sarah Palin a bimbo and Laura Ingram a slut; Bill Maher has used too many offensive names to list them all here, including calling Palin a ‘tw*t” and a ‘c*nt’, and calling both Palin and Bachmann boobs and bimbos.

    So where was your outrage during all of that? Oh, those people are on your side so of course you give them a pass.

    Spare me your crap and go away now.

  • Finrod

    Anderson Cooper of CNN is the one who used the term first. Nobody from the Tea Parties used it at all before then, and nobody that knew that it was a sexual slur used it ever.

  • http://www.examiner.com/x-1597-Charlotte-Law--Politics-Examiner Mike gamecock DeVine

    great work man

  • ezilevi

    but have shawn, mark or other talk show hosts on our side let carbonite and others know that they will not renew their advertising in protest of what these companies did to Rush?

  • Adjoran

    We were winning the debate and holding the high moral ground until Limbaugh opened his big fat stupid mouth and invited the diversion.

    Yet somehow people see HIM as the wronged party? How stupid do you have to be?

    When Schultz or Maher or Malloy or O’Donnell or Maddow or Olbermann (‘member him? Me either) spewed the slurs, were THEY the victims? One size fits all, people, we cannot be outraged by those and give Rush a pass.

    Especially when he not only took us down to their level, he opened the door to the changing of the subject.

    They couldn’t have done it without Rush. Focus anger on the right target.

    Unless you are in fact just the same as the left, only facing a different direction.

  • https://www.facebook.com/#!/pages/Gary-Stein/161097993929079 Gary Stein

    Mr. Erickson… Why do think this is not an appropriate discussion for Red State?

  • Melody Warbington (rwm52)

    Now, if you’re a conservative for, like, real, you’ll like totally get this comment without asking what I mean.

    And as an aside, I’m betting Meghan totally identifies with Ms. Fluke. For real.

  • Common_Cents

    Do we have our heads in the sand?

    the left/media is more dangerous than ever and getting more and more brazen/partisan.

    the masks are even slipping at CNN.

  • http://pocketchangeproductions.net/ anotherindyfilmguy

    But not all of it.

    In my opinion the biggest part of the problem is a combination of feeling alone in the fight (with the MSM making it look like everyone agrees with them) and the lack of desire to get into juvenile mudslinging in which logic and reasoning apparently have no use.

    You’re not alone, the left is just more vocal with big microphones.

    The other thing is logic and reasoning can still be applied. But don’t just apply it as a straight up argument – mock the other side with the fruits of logic and reasoning, don’t just state the facts – state them in a way that mocks the illogical attack of the other side as well.

    The danger of Alinsky’s tactics for the left is that eventually smart people in the opposition can catch on and apply them against the leftists. The leftists are even more vulnerable to their own tactics for the fact, ironically, that they must use those tactics to cover for their own lack of everything worthwhile in their aims.

  • Common_Cents

    This is where the GOP fails big time. We need to appeal to emotion. People make decisions and take action largely on emotion and not some rational thinking.

    The left does this often using the bleeding heart appeals and victim mentality.

    but there are other ways in appealing to emotion.

  • Common_Cents

    Wonder if there might be some value there to provide.

  • Jack_Savage

    We all still have that. The original point is what I want to emphasize. We need to stand together.

    For instance, when they came for Trent Lott over a made-up racial incident, no one stood for him. When everyone on the left was savaging Sarah Palin, no one stood for her, including that POS John McCain.

    By the time the line you refer to gets crossed it is too late to stand together.

  • Jack_Savage

    The idea of buying Rush’s tea is an excellent one.

  • http://pocketchangeproductions.net/ anotherindyfilmguy

    Essentially he is potentially violating UCMJ by doing what he did dependent upon the facts of the case.

    It is also however directly against the UCMJ to be seditious regarding the chain of command of which the O is currently at the top of. Since he is making public disparaging statements he is directly in violation of that aspect. You’ve stated what he’s being investigated for and seems rather likely that he’s probably going to be found guilty of it. The UCMJ exists for a reason and it is explained to all service members to varying degrees of depth. He made a bad bed and now has to deal with the consequences of his actions.

  • http://pocketchangeproductions.net/ anotherindyfilmguy

    Because you’re to politicize what is potentially a correct UCMJ action in a manner that would make supporters of the fellow in question be in direct conflict with the setup of the UCMJ and in a sense supportive of someone on the wrong side of the facts as stated in your post.

    The left could then make hay out of it by incorrectly screaming to the world that redstate et al supports military insubordination against the O etc which, I’m just guessing here, is not at the top of most folks agendas here at the moment.

    Let me know if I’m off base here…

  • earlgrey

    I don’t know.

  • tommyfrisco

    I’ve agreed with Rush more, over the last twenty years, than anyone else I know. That said, I’ve disagreed with him on several issues during the past few months. I won’t bore you with all of them.

    On the Flake issue, he should have done his homework before he started talking about her. He would have learned that her sex life had nothing to do with it. She is a 30 yr. old extremely liberal woman’s rights activist who went to Georgetown University for the sole purpose of changing their policies on women’s rights. She and the Dems presented her as an ordinary college coed. Rush should have been calling her an imposter, if anything, and the Dems for committing fraud.

    Unfortunately, Rush compounded the problem by apologizing which has done nothing but give the Left evidence that they have won the debate over free contraceptives. Rush has been in this business a long time. He should have known better. Like a 50 million dollar athlete who now thinks about his yacht instead of thinking about football, Rush has allowed his succes to dull his game.

    I’m mostly very frustrated because this issue has dominated the campaign news for five days now, instead of the revelation that Romney has been lying all during the campaign about not wanting RomneyCare at the federal level. THAT should be dominating the campaign news prior to Super Tuesday, not something Rush said.

  • uselogic

    Was considering Sleep Number for a mattress…. no more. Allstate is a prior offender as is Sears. Unfortunately, our corporate online meetings are done through Citrix (Go To Meeting). Maybe I can influence our next contract?

    We all need to vote with our wallets and let the company know why you’re dropping them. When I dumped Capital One over them using Alec “lets all go murder Dennis Hastert and his family” Baldwin as a spoke-person, the CSR told me she’d had a bunch of similar callers. This strategy works if we publicize and united.

  • uselogic

    “unite”…. not the airline

  • arnd

    To people who want this episode to go away: I think this whole “slut” thing gets people talking and that’s better than them not paying attention. This whole incident could be a boon.

    Limbaugh hasn’t endorsed anyone, so it’s easy for Republicans to disavow his words without disavowing the issue of religious freedom. In a larger context, even the word “slut” and Limbaugh’s apology can be a boost. We’ve seen Ed Shultz use the word “slut”; however, what would be a left-winger’s idea of irresponsible sexual behavior? I don’t think there is any. I could see a leftist calling Paris Hilton a “slut” but only if she were giving money to the Republicans. Does Sandra Fluke think there’s any type of behavior could be described as “slutish?”

    The real outrage about the word “slut” is on the part of moderates and some conservatives. Leftists, including Sandra Fluke (probably), have called Republicans worse things and in this instance, they feigned outrage because they knew it would pull moderates and conservatives away from Limbaugh. When it comes to damaging Limbaugh, any stick will do.

    As said above, Bill Maher has excelled everyone in his vitriol against conservative women. Why not demand that Obama give Maher’s $1 million back? And where’s the apology? How is Maher different from Jeremiah Wright? That is, isn’t Maher simply a surrogate who voices Obama’s most unpleasant thoughts?

    Why do the gross words from Democrats get a pass, while milder words from Limbaugh get mainstream columnists to try to read him out of the conservative movement? Nothing can touch the stuff Dan Savage used on Rick Santorum, which will surely come up again. Leftists shouldn’t be allowed to chastise Limbaugh for PG-13 language while smearing conservatives with X-rated language.

    Force the mainstream media to dive into the left-wing sewer and display what they find there. Show the public how the Obama crowd talks and thinks and how they want to spend public money. And demand apologies from Obama. These are things that conservative activists should do.

  • earlgrey

    get $10 off if I put Rush in on the promotional code. I told them I’d rather wait until they resume advertising on Rush’s show before making a purchase with them.

  • Common_Cents

    The war has been waged on the right for quite some time now. Maybe it’s time we wake up and engage.

    The site numbersusa had a good idea that could be used here. They had pre-written form letters and faxes that could be sent for free to various congress critters on immigration issues.

    The takeaway is making it easy for people to participate will get more people to, participate ;)

  • radicalrighty

    Also, now that Breitbart is gone, we have no one with the stomach for confrontation. Other than typing words on a blog, we will sit on the sidelines and watch the ongoing transformation of minority rule in this once great country.

  • radicalrighty

    The last thing the GOP needs is more division, and name-calling of and about our candidates – by ourselves.

    I, for one, am all for ANY GOP candidate lying, cheating, basically doing anything it takes to beat Obama. May the meanest, lyingist, dirtiest, low down SOB win! The days are over for the GOP trotting out a guy with clean fingernails.

    I welcome Romney and his nasty smear machine go up against an even nastier Obama machine.

  • renl57

    It’s not too late.

    STOP DOUBLING DOWN on this ridiculous topic of “Slutty Single Women.”

    Do what the Dems do: Change the subject.

    Get away from Ms. Fluke and “sluts” and Limbaugh, and get back to the original subject of religious freedom.

  • renl57

    The timeline shows that Limbaugh did not apologize until after his sponsors started threatening to quit advertising on his show.

    So he didn’t apologize out of the decency of his heart. He did it to save money.

  • renl57

    The Left has adopted the tactics of guerrilla war–by Mao and Che and others–to their political fights.

    Guerrillas love to provoke incidents to cause their enemies to retaliate indiscriminately, discrediting the enemy and giving the guerrillas the moral high ground. They will shoot at troops from the sanctuary of civilian areas, so the troops will shoot back hard (or better still, call in airstrikes). Then the CNN cameras will film gruesome pictures of wounded children and wailing mothers.

    Then the guerrillas can wrap themselves in martyrdom and victimization, winning the battle of public opinion both in their own country and worldwide.

    Here at home, agitators will stir up trouble so that the police will strike back and the agitators can make a Federal case (literally) out of alleged “police brutality.”

    And the Left used that tactic right here. They knew EXACTLY what type of “spokesperson” to put before the cameras: A left-wing, feminist, sexually active single women on birth control. Just the type to provoke Limbaugh and the SoCons into a reflexive all-out response.

    And that’s exactly what happened.

    All the martyrdom and victimization now belongs to Ms. Fluke, for having stood up to The Onslaught of the Great Rush Limbaugh.

    The Right’s constant shooting from the hip at every provocation will continue to fail, just like carpet-bombing whole towns full of civilians fails to stop a guerrilla insurgency. All it ends up doing is losing the battle of public opinion.

    You need to know when to stop lashing out even when you’re provoked. The Dems will continue to provoke phony controversies from now right through Election Day. There will be a lot more like Ms. Fluke.

    Don’t be baited again.

  • Scope

    According to this article the stock has drooped 12% since the Limbaugh announcement. Ha!

  • gsatt

    I’m unable to think on their level.

    My girlfriend goes there and gets a contraception shot in the butt for free, I don’t know how this women is unable to do the same. My female brings in 20k+ a year and shes not diqualified. And if your a student your pretty much allowed to get away with murder now days. My college friends all had food stamps. I even had one for a while. One was from out of state and qualified for a michigan card ( his parents are millionairs and had a vacation house in the area……… that must have been what qualified him) We all received 200 a month for food, we all ate VERY WELL.. I finally couldn’t stand the idea of it anymore

    Its out of control.

  • Melody Warbington (rwm52)

    Well, this and the low voter turnout in Virginia. Sorry it had to be your state.

  • http://www.ArchitecturalShots.com mdyou

    …we would like to hear you more often on the left coast. Nobody watches CNN…

    Back on topic – I don’t believe Rush did this on purpose. His head was just exploding like all of the rest of us, and he just gets to the core of the issue faster than we do.

    But this is nothing. Limbaugh can take a punch, and he’ll gain listeners because of this. Let’s just hope that when our less-than-perfect candidate takes the oath, we’ll have enough congresspeople to kick his ass into line.

  • earlgrey

    baiss. They haven’t mastered the circular reasoning of the left.

  • Scope

    as being the primary with the lowest voter turnout ever by percentage. I’m still reading reports from people at many of the precincts as late as this afternoon that there is almost no one there. I also can’t believe the number of people who are voting, are voting Paul in protest. I think Gov. McDonnell can kiss his VP dreams goodbye. Lt. Gov. Bill Bolling can also kiss his Gov. dreams goodbye. It’s a great day for Ken Cuccinelli though.

  • usedtobelib

    1)Rush was outwitted this time

    2) He is an entertainer first. What? You think he would sacrifice his rating as the numero uno political talk show host for a GOP victory?

    If so, you, sir, are the idiot.

  • westcoastpatriette

    that’s all

  • http://www.gmsplace.com/ civil truth

    Percentage does matter. Why should Fox be projecting before the polls close?

  • goodgovernance

    I think with the internet it’s a lot easier to stand together than it’s ever been.

    What we really need are some leaders to coordinate this thing. Grasssroots stuff is great, but sometimes you need better coordination than that alone can provide.

  • goodgovernance

    But the Dems are going to win a few of these no matter what we do. The independents and swing voters aren’t conservatives for a reason, even if we disagree with those reasons.

    Since 1980, we’ve won five presidential elections, they’ve won three. We’ve even managed to take over Congress once, which prior to the Nineties was unthinkable. We’ve got a chance to take Congress back this time around.

    I’m not trying to be contrarian. But in this particular instance, I just don’t see that we’re teetering on the edge of an irreversible slippery slope of destruction.

    That slope gets brought out a lot for so many different issues.

  • carolina

    NBC nightly ‘news’ claimed that 33 sponsors have left Rush. I would be happy if all 33 of them take a hit for their action.
    Just because the progressives are so LOUD – does not make them right, or in the majority.
    That said, Rush would have done better to show more restraint in his language (and not stoop to the left’s disgusting level)

  • carolina

    NBC nightly ‘news’ claimed that 33 sponsors have left Rush. I would be happy if all 33 of them take a hit for their action.
    Just because the progressives are so LOUD – does not make them right, or in the majority.
    That said, Rush would have done better to show more restraint in his language (and not stoop to the left’s disgusting level)

  • rbdwiggins

    According to exit polls, the Georgia race was never going to be close. FNC called it for Newt as soon as the polls closed.

    It appears that Newt will cross the 42% threshold and secure all of the delegates awarded by district…

  • greyeagle

    This was a set up job by the Democrats. This woman certainly was not what she appeared to be. A target store about a mile away had constraceptives for $9 per month. So Fluke saying a thousand dollars per year was lying. Their purpose is to eliminate as many conservative media voices prior to the election, because they know their boy Obama is in big trouble. They brought out a Nurse in WA today with the same whine. A big fail on this one.

  • demsaresatanic

    but the show sponsors probably brought too much heat, perhaps station managers as well. I agree that Rush is a giant in the conservative movement and deserves a pass, he is in a much better position than we are to determine how far he can take it.

  • lastgopinillinois

    I have read many diaries here on RS regarding the Rush/Fluke debaucle.
    Many agree that Rush said the wrong thing and should have apologized.

    I dont agree. Rush has the right of free speech too, (I thought), and although it wasn’t necessary to get the point across, I personally was more interested in how well he articulated the conservative position that the govt shouldn’t be forcing private companies to provide anything at someone elses expense.

    I too am sick and tired of the fact that the communist, saul alinsky tactics of the left which allows them to spew any sort of vile about conservatives, is considered okay. No one ever fights back and they always get away with it.

    Just one such instance that comes to mind is Stenchy Hoyer, who called the Tea Party members of congress TERRORISTS. Oooh, he makes my blood boil.

    I’ll go one step further. I dont think Rush would have apologised without the pressure of losing his advertizers. And it would have been fine with me had he not. I wouldn’t have minded if he had doubled down. I am praying that there will be companies who will want to advertize on his show, regardless of the controversy. I think he should be able to say what ever he wants. They do it to us and get away with it every day.

  • davesinsanantonio

    same methods as your enemy, how are you different from your enemy??? The ends DO NOT justify the means.
    You are right that we need to fight hard, but that does not mean dirty. Fighting hard in our case means telling the truth. Of course, the Left will see that as fighting dirty, but that is their problem, not ours. When we tell the truth about them it hurts them more than their lies about us hurt us. So, fight hard, but be honest about it. Let them fight dirty, the truth will win in the end.

    “Never wrestle with a pig. It makes you dirty and the pig enjoys it.”

    “Let your light so shine before men that they will see your good works” and refuse to listen to the lies told about you.

  • siquijorisland

    time to tell everyone you know what you think about this

  • siquijorisland

    what a girl
    Maybe living in wonderland

  • valynn

    We do not and have not referred to ourselves as “teabaggers”. And the MSM IS 90% of America’s problem. They do NOT report, they repeat the BS that is fed to them from our “Elite Leaders”.

  • azvick

    Erickson. But please, give us part two of this column. Thanks to American Spectator, I have the list of sponsors who yanked their support from Limbaugh, which is suspiciously long, and am in the process of contacting them.

    Your suggestions on consolidating and getting the word out are welcomed by this reader.

    This site helps, as does every single conservative blogger out here.

  • siquijorisland

    start complaining about their need to have high gas prices

  • valynn

    will boycott all the companies that dropped Rush. This is all purely political and if they are so easily duped, I want nothing to do with their businesses. In fact, other conservative hosts should reconsider supporting these people’s businesses.

  • siquijorisland

    maybe join and promote the “do not believe the main stream media” by putting this on you e-mails

  • http://www.doctor-bob.biz rsklaroff

    …regardless of ratings, an observation that you would appreciate if you listened to his unique rantings.

    He admitted he was tempted into applying lingo he generally eschews, but he did not back-down from the fundamental point he was making…that this is not about contraception, and that this is all about freedom.

    This isn’t idiocy, and your ad-hominems against his integrity are to be condemned.

  • circlegranch

    www.dailycaller.com is carrying the disgusting video of two of America’s most outspoken, course, bomb throwers ever given air time—Michael Moore and Rachel Maddow. Last night during Super Tues coverage, Maddow entertained obviously deliberate and overly explicit, raw comments about Rush and the exit of some of his advertisers spewed from the hateful mouth of Michael Moore. Offensive, yes, typical, of course. Should he be banned? Of course not. The question is, given the debate especially at MSNBC over the past several days–the debate that they refuse to let die–should Michael Moore give Rush a public apology today? Absolutely. Given Obama’s comments yesterday about civility and being able to express one’s opinion, should he phone Rush today and offer his support? Absolutely. With either happen. Absolutely not. Will Ms. Fluke, the women on The View and offended women across the country rise up and complain that Mr. Moore’s sexual comments are just too sensitive for their ears and demand that he retract them? Of course not. Mr. Moore is a darling of the Left, Left women included. Like his pal, Bill Maher, Moore’s off-the-cuff remarks are simply humor and absurdity. Such comments are only offensive and beg apology when they come forth from someone on the Right.

    Freedom of speech and the ability to espouse opinion freely is only acceptable and permitted without scorn on the Left and within this Administration.

    In addition to waiting for those apology calls from Obama on on his teabagger comment, when will Speaker Gingrich get an apology call from Axelrod for his despicable comment about monkeys going up poles? Don’t remember that one? Hint: when asked about Gingrich’s ascent in the polls awhile back, Axelrod said you can better see a monkey’s backside the higher up they climb a pole. And what about an apology to the entire nation when all our sensibilities should have been offended just before Obama sat down to sign ObamaCare into law? Remember Biden’s tactful whisper to Obama, “This is a big ——- deal!” One hates to engage in keeping score on such trivial stupidity but until the Left changes the subject and gets down to real business such as Iran, the economy, the fact that they still won’t provide a budget, the energy crisis, the crushing blow gas prices are wielding toward families, etc., apparently we have no choice but to engage them at their level, even when that level is in the gutter.

  • geah

    for to see what bill will be passed behind closed doors while this whole nation is agog with Ms. Fluke, the hand picked bimbo to shield the latest outrage of a bill. remember the past folks, this is so easy even REED and Toxic NANCY are able to take part, think hard it is coming so Mr. O can keep his job.

  • malvernpa

    Does Rush need to swat every fly on the beach, no. We move on and let MSNBC, NBC,ABC,CBS,CNN sit in their own sweat over a non issue. I was born and gifted with a naturally powerful build. Every punk in high school wanted a swing at me and 99% of the time I walked away. Once I was jumped by one of them in a crowd at a school event. I did not swing back, I instinctively picked him up over my head and threw him across the room and walked away. I was never bothered again by anyone. Rush is a big boy. There will be advertisers that want an audience of 20 million. I urge all of us to not boycott. However to actively seek and support business like Overstock, Applebes, Home Depot, Sam’s, WalMart and direct our dollars toward business owners or management with common sense conservative values is a good thing to do. It will show up in the earnings statement. Carbonite stock dropped 12% this week, couldn’t happen to a better company.

  • concernedjoy

    It would be nice if people could disagree with each other without slinging such crude remarks, but the Republicans/conservatives are “actually for real mad here” also! The outrage should be directed to ANYONE who is so hateful. But we all know most of the liberals/Democrats think it is perfectly OK for their side to sling insults to the other side. No outrage there. Even the President won’t comment on the filth slung at Republican or conservative women.

  • sashamanda

    Conservatives/Republicans tuck tail and run in the presence of a media feeding frenzy, principle be damned. (This is particularly true of the Establishment “moderates.”) The left then wins by default.

  • anokly2u

    As the last paragraph of EE’s daily comment (030712) reflects, we will lose the word war if we don’t change strategy. As a flyover resident, living among farmers, we say what we mean. When harmed, we stop doing business with the offender, we isolate them socially, we organize to make sure the harm is not continued, to the best of our ability. And we walk softly, but carry big sticks.
    So, my question for readers, is why are the republicans not fighting back with words. Words of truth, but counter the lies of the other side with the truth. Where, for instance, are the republican women who can address the REAL issue, not the fake-blame-Rush-issue? The real issue is what the dems want disguised. So far they have succeeded. So what that some of the candidates have had sloppy verbals on positions, and on the women’s issues, the sloppyness has gottern them lower vote turnouts. But where is the clarification and re-statement of these issues to the public, like we routinely see Ax or other sleesy huksters of the opposition do? They revise and recreate the position within minutes.
    I close on a Biblical example: we are commanded to be wise as serpents, and gentle as doves. We are commanded to be angry, but sin not. We have examples of turning over temple tables when corruption exists. LETS ROLL!!

  • merryj1

    Carbonite was hit by a more persuasive backlash: Their stock value took a dive (down 12%-13% from 3/3 to 3/5). Also, public awareness that the Carbonite CEO is an Obama contributor gave pause to at least some of their customers, of whether it’s a good idea to have everything on (their) computers accessible to (apparent) leftists.

    I WILL NOT boycott a company or product in a “Me Too” effort to silence someone their advertising sponsors. However, I think it’s a perfectly valid option to boycott someone who jerks their advertising TO silence someone. It’s a distinction with a very large difference.

  • funwithknives

    Remember the female journalist who claimed even she would “get down on her knees ” for Clinton ,’cause he at least preserved abortion,post impeachment?
    Please consider former Pres. Billy. Even after all he did, he IS still looked up to and His Opinions are paid for, voluntarily. Was no one outraged or disgusted in Liberal Utopia, by his shenanigans ? For about 5 minutes, Maybe….

    {Flash, to a view of a Calm Blue Ocean,for just a minute to clear the mind…}

    The “OutRage” Progressives rant on about, is always selective,seemingly infantile, and never seems to be all of a whole. This is why the words “Serious” and “Progressive”, appear mutually exclusive. OutRage has been such an overused and overwrought term, when I hear it I normally go into M E G O. Like the boy who cried wolf, eventually the village really just doesn’t care, and the boy becomes yummy protein.

    Thanks for the ear and your time. Excelsior!! FWK

  • sharrondeer

    I was just pointing out that targeting Schultz in particular is bad strategy, because he apologized immediately and was suspended for a week. Maher is fair game, although he’s actually a libertarian, not a liberal.

    The fact is that it’s far cheaper for insurance companies to provide birth control than to pay for prenatal care, delivery, and postnatal care. In fact, it’s hard to find insurance that won’t pay for it for that very reason. (I learned this from the National Catholic Register.)

  • avgjo

    most people on our side are resistant to efforts to boycott sponsors of the MSM. I don’t get it. It’s stupid beyond words. Of course, most of the efforts of the right are. I haven’t been on a conservative site in some time now. Today’s the first day I’ve read RS and some of the other conservative sites in over a week.( Getting away from politics and news really clears the head.) I wanted then to see if my contention that conservative media is ineffective and largely irrelevant was wrong, perhaps conceived in frustration. With the exception of this article, I see I am right.

    Fluke dreams of being a slut. (I have trouble believing that many guys give that sow a second look.) This is contrived, like everything from the left. I wouldn’t have used Rush’s language. But once you cross that line, you can’t go back. Otherwise, the left will keep pushing you back.( I remember in one fighting lesson as a kid, the admonition not to step back when an opponent rushes you, because they can easily knock you on your back.) Rush screwed up twice; he made those comments and then backed off.

    One nice thing about the clear mind gained from ignoring the frenetic 24 hour news cycle is you start to analyze things more clearly and act more effectively. I have decided to live out the ‘let’s quit commenting online and do something about it’ mantra.

    See you guys in a while.