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What is ‘Winning Our Future’ PAC Doing With Sheldon Adelson’s Money? [Updated]

[Updated] Apologies to Rick Tyler of Winning Our Future, who has expressed his displeasure with this post to me on twitter, pointing out as well that some of his ad buys have been here at RedState. Online advertising hasn’t been my concern below as I’m sure it is geotargetted, etc.

As to the television and radio advertising, a friend familiar with the ad buying of the super PAC tells me that in some cases the ads were purchased late and most air time had been filled up. Consequently, the ads were bought as a package that spread them out, though unfortunately those bundles necessitated some ads continuing to play after the primaries in the particular states had ended. Additionally, as I originally mentioned, some of the ads are national ad buys which appear on the national network, be they television or radio.

The original post is now below the fold.

Is ‘Winning Our Future’, the Super PAC affiliated with Newt Gingrich and mostly funded by Sheldon Adelson using Mr. Adelson’s money wisely?

I only ask because yesterday — the day after Super Tuesday — I was still hearing their not very good advertisements on radio in Georgia.

I noted that on twitter and subsequently had individuals tell me that the PAC is still running ads in Florida, Michigan, and even in Iowa. A radio host in South Florida confirmed for me he has heard the ads there recently. Most troubling, several Virginia residents tell me the PAC ran ads there despite Gingrich not being on the ballot.

All of this, I should be clear, comes in from reports on twitter except for the recent report from Florida and my own experience in Georgia after the election.

One might presume that the advertisements in Georgia and Florida were actually targeting Alabama, except Atlanta radio does not penetrate Alabama, nor does radio from Southern Florida where the ads have been heard on the radio. Additionally, some of them could be national ad buys running on national shows, but not all of them are. Finally, I’m sure a few could be ads bought in a block and the days spilled past the election. That is sometimes cheaper than specific date purchases. But still, it makes little sense that Iowa, Virginia, and South Florida are still hearing ads. If they are national ads, I would question if the shotgun approach is the right approach.

As I noted just a day before the Florida primary, the super PAC was attacking Mitt Romney in South Florida about abortion — not a relevant topic to voters in that area in that primary.

The PAC otherwise has had a minimal presence, though is now airing commercials on Rush Limbaugh’s program (which would account for some, but not all, of the reports of ads in odd places). But I am beginning to wonder if there is an actual strategy or do they just need a new ad buyer. If they need a new ad buyer, what sort of commissions are being paid with the PAC money?

COMMENTS

  • rmagedon

    Wow Erick, what a great observation . . . perhaps you could do better, maybe you should start running Newts campaign

  • greenpoint

    Gingrich has got to stop acting like his win in Georgia was some kind of a triumph. He won his home state! The problem for Newt is that unlike Romney, he only has one home state.

  • mikelindell2

    I was seeing WinningOurFuture ads days after NV caucuses were over. To be fair, I’ve been seeing countless RestoreOurFuture(Romney super PAC) out here lately though. Newt’s super PAC is not doing him any favors, I’ve hardly seen any good ads coming from them. Between Newt’s record, accomplishments, and plans, you would think some pretty powerful ads could be made. Then when you factor in how liberal Romney’s record is, and the recent revelations about his suggestions to Obama, you would think powerful ads against Romney could be made, as well as “politics is a team sport, folks” Santorum.

  • Tim Griffin@griffinelection

    and at the time I thought it was strange as he isn’t even on the ballot.

  • dajeeps

    I don’t listen to much local radio because there isn’t that much in the way of content I like to listen to. I don’t even have a radio, except in the car and in my emergency survival kit, and so I get it mostly online. One of my favorites is KARN in Little Rock, Arkansas, so I hear the ads even though I am in NY. It might sound kind of funny to keep hearing the ads on the radio after the primary is over, but they are still reaching folks who haven’t voted yet.

  • http://www.doctor-bob.biz rsklaroff

    …so these are probably national-buys.

    BTW, I found them to be tiresome, whereas [note my bias] I found that those of The Newt were focused [and generally positive, in contrast].

  • http://www.twitter.com/AWG9_yoyo yoyo

    in Charleston, SC — I just thought that it was through Rush advertising instead.

    I am holding out for a “Perry 2012″ commercial as well….

  • mikelindell2

    Maybe I’m just a novice but you have one candidate(Mitt) who has said he never supported the stimulus when there is video evidence of him telling Wolf Blitzer he supported the $750B stimulus and has said he didn’t want Romneycare as a national model when there is clear evidence he did. On top of that, he has more recently said he wants to “keep the good parts” of Obamacare. You have another candidate (Rick) who has said Christians are wrong for using contraception, that Protestants have been corrupted by Satan, states have the right to ban contraception, separation of church and state makes him want to puke, and that he voted for bills that he didn’t support because politics is a team sport. Someone who has an extensive record of choosing Big Labor over right-to-work, a record of big spending, a record of historic defeats in elections, and someone who has proposed a tax plan that would have government pick winners and losers, favoring certain industries and inevitably leading to massive fraud. Then you have another candidate (Newt) who has a record of balancing budgets, cutting taxes leading to massive job growth, reforming entitlements, and doing it all with a Democrat president. That same candidate not only has the most experience and best record but also is proposing the most conservative plans and is the only one with a flat tax. It would seem to me that the ads would write themselves.

  • radicalrighty

    PRO Cap & Trade, PRO Man-made Global Warming, PRO Individual Mandate, called Paul Ryan a right-wing social engineer, got rich off the US taxpayers for years in DC, not to mention serial cheater.

    I had to laugh when Newt said “Romney’s not the type to pump his own gas.” Right out of Obama’s Class-Warfare Handbook.

    I wonder how long it’s been since Newt got his fat ass out of the limo and pumped his own gas?

  • edintexas

    I’ll feed this troll enough to point out that 2 sentences on-topic do not eliminate declaring the post a threadjack, when the remainder is an attack on another candidate, ending with a little promotion of your candidate.

  • clintonformccain

    Most of the campaigns have been amateur hour. Poor ad buying is the least of Gingrich’s problem. He couldn;’t even manage to get his book tour, er, campaign on all the ballots.

  • rabun1016

    Newts radio ads slamming Romney may not have been “very good” but they were unrelenting. You could not listen to either of Atlanta’s main stations without getting slammed.

  • mikelindell2

    Take a breath of fresh air, log off the computer for a bit, everything will be ok.

  • rabun1016

    I will criticize Romneys super pac for some of the most ineffective ads I have seen. What a waste of money. Ron Paul had great ads in Iowa slamming Newt, ads which Newt indirectly blamed on Romney. Romney needs to hire Ron Paul’s guy. Great ads, clever without excessive negativity.

  • mikelindell2

    Radicalrighty-Newt never supported cap and trade, you can actually see him testifying before congress against it on youtube. Were you complaining when Bush painted Kerry as rich and out of touch? I was discussing easy ads that could be run. I don’t think a candidate airs out his flaws in his own ads. Obv, every candidate has some flaws.

  • naraht

    Why not, if Hillary Clinton can Manufacture New York as a home state, why can’t Gingrich do so….

    On the other hand, you can argue that both Gingrich and Santorum had more “home state” contact with Virginia than Hillary did with New York.

  • rabun1016

    This was the Iowa ad I thought was pretty good. Newt blamed Romney for it, but Romney’s ads were awful. Newt believes people who do not support him must have been hoodwinked.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CWKTOCP45zY

  • golds1

    His ads were running in Central Florida everyday…as late as yesterday. I wondered what his point is…guess it’s bad management – which doesn’t speak well for someone running for president.

  • jon11

    Sheldon can add too.

    He knows Newt can’t win.

    There is already talk of him donating to Romney.

    They all met with him in vegas…all except santorum.

    Sheldon is fine with Mitt or Newt, he just can’t stomach Santorum.

    Good Man.

  • claywillis

    Erick can maybe be excused because his station does not carry Rush Limbaugh’s show. The Winning Our Future media buys are ALL on syndicated conservative radio so OF COURSE you may hear these ads in FL, SC, GA etc just like they do in all the 57 states where Rush’s show and other conservative syndicated shows are on the air. Come on, people, you’re supposed to be more alert than this!

  • claywillis

    Erick can maybe be excused because his station does not carry Rush Limbaugh’s show. The Winning Our Future media buys are ALL on syndicated conservative radio so OF COURSE you may hear these ads in FL, SC, GA etc just like they do in all the 57 states where Rush’s show and other conservative syndicated shows are on the air. Come on, people, you’re supposed to be more alert than this!

  • WillWong

    There is a 200 page book on Mitt which chronicles all his egregious sins against conservatism and you keeps harping on some stuff that Newt simply said with no actual record that he actually committed such sins?

    You might want to consider changing your name to radicallefty!

  • finkelwitz

    The question is, does mud stick to a mud slinger? Romney is the greatest mud hurler of all time. Whatever his super pac does, he’s ultimately responsible for. He’s still a handsome man though in his fifties. Maybe he also wears mudpacks. In fact his super pac should be called a mudpac.

  • rightwingnut2

    I still hear WTF’s ads several times a day. I’ve been wondering WTF that is all about as well.

  • WillWong

    Back before Adelson gave Newt’s PAC the additional $5 right after SC, I commented that Newt was doing great with so little money…let’s see how he does with lot’s of money!

    If EE’s post says nothing else, it shows Newt’s PAC is grossly inefficient nor effective in using Adelson’s money which is so sad!

    The good point is that you can be sure that Newt observes the law very closely….that there can be no coordination between the candidate and his super PAC! Not much of a consolation though! :(

  • Juggernaut

    The short story is Romney is mostly winning liberal states that Obama was strong in 2008………..aka Romney is running the Al Gore strategy and he’s not winning the RED STATES.

    http://www.dickmorris.com/blog/what-does-super-tuesday-mean-dick-morris-tv-lunch-alert/

  • nepanyrush

    I am getting Gingrich ads in northeastern PA that are absolutely exoriating Romney, but the station only reaches PA, NY, and NJ — three states that don’t vote until April. Maybe these ads are part of a syndicated radio purchase. But I have not been getting any of the Romney ads at all — and only hear about them from the national media – so it just seems really odd to hearing Romney getting hammered so relentlessly with no visibile campaign in PA as yet.

    If not for the media and Redstate telling me about the mudslinging from Romney’s superpac, I would think all the mudslinging was from the Gingrich side, based on my experience in PA.

  • radicalrighty

    Newt did speak glowingly of Cap and Trade. Check out this interview – just start about 5 questions from the bottom of the page for the C&T part. I will enthusiastically vote for Newt if he wins the nomination, my gripe is the Romney bashing – Flip-flopper, etc that goes on when all nominees have issues and a bit of flip-flopping.

    http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/hotpolitics/interviews/gingrich.html?utm_medium=Email&utm_source=ExactTarget&utm_campaign=pressRelease

  • http://www.va5thdistrict.blogspot.com va5thdistrict

    they were still running ads in Virginia. I have been hearing the ads for the last month and wondered why they were spending their dollars in a state that Gingrich was not even on the primary ballot.

  • radicalrighty

    I am a Perry support just killing time until I have a nominee to support and vote for. My attack is not on Newt, just on those who attack one of our candidates, seemingly ignorant of their favorite’s positions and issues.

  • Common_Cents

    And verify if Gingrich’s PAC has bought packs of syndicated ads or indeed have been running ads in error?

    I’d think a post like this should come with a little investigation or response from the PAC.

  • Ender

    nt

  • http://www.democratsforsale.blogspot.com soonermom

    Don’t know where they got their people for the TV ad but it was a bad choice for Oklahoma because it seemed like a stereotype of SE OK. Worst ad I have seen in a long time. We have some of the best ads in the country during our primaries and general election.

    This ad didn’t come close to our local ads — poorly done, poor graphics, and using people that do not represent most of the actual people of Oklahoma but the stereotype some people have.

    Got so tired of Romney’s ads in OK and the calling I turned off my sports talk radio and didn’t answer my phone deleting all messages. I detest robocalls with a passion. Someone had my cell number so it was even more of a pain with it going off all the time.

    Yesterday was the day to celebrate ‘ad free’ for the Presidential election.

  • sharon4jc

    Perhaps a bit of research will reveal that there are many who don’t mind the ‘cap and trade’ or at least they didn’t till the last couple of years when they saw that it was too costly. So, if one is looking into something and the ‘science’ on something changes. It doesn’t mean that Newt and other Republicans were wrong…at the time.

  • radicalrighty

    .

  • WillWong

    Romney’s sin is not just talk….they are actually acts committed with remifications felt even today by millions!

  • JSobieski

    Its in weighing one against the other that people find Romney so infuriating.

    Romneycare alone is a pretty large bitter pill to swallow.

    Of all the things not to flip-flop on . . .

  • WillWong

    Newt and his Super PAC would do well with innovative tools like this!

    http://www.newsmax.com/Politics/Facebook-Timeline-social-media/2012/03/08/id/431870

  • sharon4jc

    Love how a ‘reporter’ comes in and makes an analogy with which they NO experience at all. This type of article galls me almost as much as MSM ‘experts’ to include Fox who believe they know the will of the people much less how advertisement should be strategically placed. I believe that Winning Our Future knows what it is doing. Also, there is much going on behind the scenes that the writer of this article has no clue about. Unless the writer of this article has a Masters in Marketing then I would make such assumptions if it were me. After all, my Bachelors is in Business Management not Marketing.

  • drothgery

    At least, I’d break down Romney’s wins to date as
    swing states – OH, NH, FL, NV
    solid Democrat states – MA, VT
    lean Democrat states – MI, WA, ME
    lean Republican states – AZ, VA
    solid Republican states – ID, WY, AK

    Now, it’s accurate to say a large part of the case for Romeny’s inevitability is that he’s extremely likely to win a lot of winner-take-all (or winner-take-all by district) states that are solid Democrat states, but that’s in the future for the most part (Vermont is tiny, and every candidate should be expected to win their actual home state — i.e. the one where they ran for lower office in and/or lived most of their adult life — by a large margin).

  • Ann_W

    as recently as 2005. That’s a big zit!

    He has very clearly flip-flopped every bit as much as Romney.

  • Ann_W

    not so well, but let’s hand him all the money the gov’t has. Maybe the associates he gathers around him then will do better. Cross your fingers!

  • littlehouse18

    nt

  • naraht

    The Regions don’t line up with the regional Republican/Democratic split. It would not surprise me all that much if the map of the winners at then end of the Primary ended up in only 4 colored pieces. Romney’s pieces are west of Colorado and north and east of Kentucky (no guess on West Virginia). Gingrich’s piece may extend west from Georgia, but may not and Santorum gets the large chunk in the middle (Illinois is the question mark).

  • naraht

    N/T

  • mikelindell2

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TEOXI88lSw8

    I wasn’t trying to get into an argument about who the best candidate, even though it’s clearly Newt. EE made the point that he didn’t like the ads being run by the super PAC, I agreed and went to list some the things the ads could be about instead.

  • mikelindell2

    Newt spent his life fighting for and succeeding in great conservative successes. If you don’t like a few positions he’s taken, fine. Romney has nothing to justify him even running as a Republican. FYI, Newt has the highest American Conservative Union record, pretty objective stat that shows he’s the most conservative.

  • mikelindell2

    And we did hand Newt the money of the federal government already. What happened? Oh, balanced budgets, budget surpluses, paying down national debt. I’d hate to have that again.

  • celador2

    The PAC is confused with its mixed and missed messages. One of Newt Gingrich’s strongest issues is energy and his gas at 2.50 is a winner.
    Runs energy and gas ads in satuaration levels if you must, they are not attack ads but reminders we can do much better than who we have in charge of energy and gas today.

    Gas ads raise expectation and hope of voters, they associate a better price with Newt.

  • rabun1016

    The Mass healthcare plan is a better example of federalism than socialism. Not my plan, but the legislature there has every right to do it. Sophomoric to use the socialism label which of course it is not. But, great smear material nontheless.

  • Adjoran

    How did they do there?

    Or were they too mind-numbingly incompetent to do what Alan Keyes and Denis Kucinich managed to do with tougher rules?

  • Dave_A

    Comparisons to past campaigns do not apply, as the past campaigns had a lower standard to meet.

  • Juggernaut

    lean don’t count. Besides I said “most”