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The Utah Election

When Orrin Hatch ran for the United States Senate the first time, he campaigned against then Democratic Senator Frank Moss. Hatch traveled Utah asking and answering a simple question: “What do you call a Senator who’s served in office for 18 years?” “You call him home,” he said.

That was thirty-six years ago. Orrin Hatch beat Frank Moss and has been in the United States Senate ever since. This week, voters in Utah will begin the process of deciding whether or not it is time to call Orrin Hatch home, having served twice as long as the Senator he decided to challenge successfully in 1976.

I was one when Orrin Hatch beat Frank Moss. He is the longest serving Utah Senator. He is, for those of us who started paying attention to politics in the 1980′s, a seminal figure in late twentieth century American politics. From his seat in the Senate Judiciary Committee, Hatch’s face has been a visible presence in American homes for decades.

Each time I have met Orrin Hatch, I’ve come away liking the man. But were I in Utah this week, I’d want to do as he wanted to do thirty-six years ago and call him home.

My problem with Orrin Hatch is not, as it is for some, the seemingly inexplicable relationship he had for so long with Senator Ted Kennedy. It’s amazing the number of people who hold that against him. But I give him credit for forging a friendship with a polar opposite who he routinely matched wits against.

One issue I have with Orrin Hatch is that he has been in Washington for thirty-six years. Many of my friends and colleagues within my office and elsewhere are Hatch supporters. He has done a tremendous job over the years building strong relationships and bases of support within the conservative movement. Fighting for conservative judges will do that for you. For so many of those battles, Orrin Hatch was the guy we all relied on.

But Orrin Hatch is not an indispensable person. No man is indispensable. I am not a term limits advocate, but thirty-six years wanting to make it forty-two years does seem a bit much.

Frankly, my biggest issue with Orrin Hatch is, counter-intuitively, just how well he’s voted in this session of Congress. In Orrin Hatch’s thirty-six years in the United States Senate, it sticks out like a sore thumb. He, and most Republicans, have voted well on every big issue. Orrin Hatch has, for his Senate career, always fought the good fight on judges. In fact, much of Hatch’s support comes from his zealous advocacy on behalf of conservative judges.

But as I have learned sitting in my editor’s chair these past few years, most Republicans are always right on the big votes. It is the fights behind the scenes, the small votes, and the votes between conservatives and Republicans that separate the wheat from the chaff.

On many of those votes over the years, Orrin Hatch was no different from any of the other Senate Republican leaders. We’re now past $15 trillion in debt and Orrin Hatch voted for a good bit of spending contributing to that debt. Some of it was necessary, but much of it was not.

He sees the light now. His colleague, Bob Bennett, got tossed out by the tea party and replaced with Mike Lee. Suddenly, Orrin Hatch is voting in near lock step with Mike Lee. He, the senior Utah Senator, seems to be the junior partner in Utah’s conservative shift.

As we’ve seen time and time again, though, many a Senator gets right with the voters in the fifth and sixth year of any term headed into an election, but in years one through four, they march to a different beat — one they seem to only tune out when they run for election.

I’m not worried about Orrin Hatch on the big votes. He’d vote with the conservatives more often than not. But I am worried about Orrin Hatch on the small votes that matter between the status quo and smaller government. I worry about Orrin Hatch in the years he is not worried about re-election. And if he were to win re-election, surpassing forty years in the Senate, I’d worry he might decide then to end and so we’d have six years of Orrin Hatch in the Senate caring little what conservatives or Utahans think.

We moved Utah to the right in 2010. We should try to do it again. Orrin Hatch is a fine and decent man. He deserves a lot of praise for putting so many conservatives on the federal bench. But I think it is time, after thirty-six years, to call him home.

COMMENTS

  • http://www.doctor-bob.biz rsklaroff

    http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0312/73911.html

    “FreedomWorks bets big against Orrin Hatch”

    Key-quote: “Walker?s group [FW] has not yet endorsed any of the eight candidates looking to replace Hatch ? but two are seen as the biggest threats to the senator?s candidacy: former state Sen. Dan Liljenquist and state Rep. Chris Herrod. He said either would be better than Hatch.”

    What is known about his competitors?

  • SoFiMil

    would the loss of Hatch as chair of the Judiciary Committee have negative consequences? And if Susan Collins was running for re-election would you support Hatch’s primary re-election?

  • goodgovernance

    and I wish him well. I suppose it may make sense to replace a person who has served in the Senate this long, but I admire the fact he seems to have behaved as a gentleman, even with his opponents, throughout his career. I think the people of Utah should be proud that Orrin is their senator. Certainly there are other senators that fare much worse in comparison.

    As the GOP makes a shift toward being a more truly conservative party, I hope we can do so with a certain measure of civility that our best leaders like Ronald Reagan possessed. Being the adults in the room will help sway people to our cause – this notion that in order to beat the anarchist Left we need to adopt their tactics and become a mirror version of them boggles me. Ultimately, going down that path will frighten the general public just as the hippies and domestic terrorists frightened America in the Sixties and Seventies. I don’t think it is a coincidence that the country shifted and became a center right nation after the Left’s excesses of that period.

  • jplsr

    You are absolutely right about Hatch and the little things. I worked on the Senate staff for 25 years, and was an expert vote counter. The estimable Senator from Utah would always make a good speech on the right side of the issue, but you never knew where he would be when it came down to a vote. He was so anxious for people, well, to like him. We had a saying, “Don’t count your Hatches until they’ve chickened.”

  • sharp

    My memories of Sen. Hatch mostly include his phrase, “Give the President his judges” or some such nonsense. He never led a fight against a Democrat nominated liberal judge (Ruth Ginsberg is the prime example).

    He was kind of like a Kennedy groupie, always wanting to gain favor with uncle Ted, never seriously opposing him.

    It is precisely because of his spot on the Judiciary Committee that Hatch should be defeated.

  • Cowboy

    is looking for some place to go now that he doesn’t have a favorable district to run in. He is not going to run against Hatch because he will loose but if it is anyone else he will jump in. Matheson may beat a lesser name opponent so all you experts better be careful what you wish for.

    This will be even more true if the people think Romney gets a raw deal at the convention if he falls just a little short of delegates. I am from Utah and would like to see Orrin come home too but this has potential to backfire.

  • goodgovernance

    It used to be Congressional tradition to let a president have his judicial nominees. That only changed when congressional Democrats, incensed over the Reagan Revolution in the Eighties, decided to take the the unprecedented action of voting down Robert Bork, despite the fact he was perfectly qualified to be a Supreme Court justice.

    Conservatives who remember how things used to be before Democrats created the hyper-partisan atmosphere in Congress tried to return the system to the way it used to be, though that has obviously failed. Had they succeeded, though, we’d have gotten more conservative justices on the court without as much rancor.

  • chuckludd

    Hatch is not Bennett. This is a man who has been there on the important votes and been in the trenches for conservatives. His stalwart support of the Federalist Society helped re-make the judiciary (and there is much more work to be done). I have stopped supporting FreedomWorks over their organizing against Hatch. I think this is insane.

  • sharp

    The Dems fought for their beliefs, and Hatch did not. That is the definition of a squish.

  • Justin Spagnolo (standardcandle)

    He’s running in the newly created 4th district… hopefully against Carl Wimmer…

    Matheson will likely lose this race due to the redistricting. He will become irrelevant, unless he runs for mayor of Salt Lake City…

    So I don’t follow your logic on this unless you’re just afraid of the Matheson brand being capable of grabbing less conservative, more moderate Republicans… the way to fix this… is to get more conservatives to take seriously the need to GOTV…

    Look up the many diaries of Coldwarrior if you are serious about getting involved in a meaningful way.

    If there is an argument for Orrin Hatch, it is that he’d be Senior most chair in potentially a Republican majority Senate. Which may wield a lot of influence… but the question is “what kind of influence”?

  • Justin Spagnolo (standardcandle)

    Look… it’s one thing to disagree with FreedomWorks on a particular race… it’s another thing to say… that group there that I agree with on 99% of the issues, is going after someone I admire… therefore I am at odds with them from now on…

    Silly. Just Silly.

  • Justin Spagnolo (standardcandle)

    IMHO that’s a choice between… good enough and AWESOME!…

    I won’t lose a lot of sleep over if Liljenquist doesn’t win party nomination… but I do believe Conservatives really should go all out to support Liljenquist and stop worrying about “who” they offend in the local party…

    It’s an uphill battle, because there is a LOT of love in Utah for Orrin Hatch in the party. I understand it… for all the reasons Erick wrote about, and more. In addition, Orrin Hatch really has bent his ear almost exclusively to the TEA party organizing efforts in Utah that put Mike Lee in office.

  • chuckludd

    They have reportedly spent over $600k trying to defeat Hatch. How much of that money could have been used to support freedom candidates in toss-up seats where every dollar counts? Yes, I agree with them on 99% of things, but taking down Hatch looks to me like an obsession.

  • Cowboy

    I already said his (my) district has changed and he has no really favorable district to run in. If Hatch gets beat in the convention Matheson WILL pivot to the Senate race. Mark my words. He already took a long look at running against Hatch.

    I am certainly not predicting him to win state wide but he has high favorable ratings and under certain conditions could win. He would at least bring in a ton of money that someone would have to compete against instead of Hatch exporting funds to another race. His father was a very popular Governor as you know. My father in law is VERY conservative and votes for him every cycle even after my best efforts to get him to do other wise. People like him as a man.

  • Justin Spagnolo (standardcandle)

    The county caucus events for Democrats are 2 days before Republicans… once he has county delegates backing him for 4th District… he’d have to convince those same state county delegates to mount an offensive on another Democrat that’s declared for the Senate seat… and his county delegates and supporters would need to convince other state delegates to stand down… but there’s a reason Matheson decided to move to the 4th district… because he thinks it’s “Winnable”… So although it’s possible these 2 provisions can be negotiated… there’s one more small detail…

    The State Delegation decides who the nominee will be on April 21… if the Nominee wins 60% of the delegates… If not… they go to a Primary…

    The Utah Democratic Caucuses and potential Primary would be BEFORE the Utah Republican Primary is completed in June this year…

    So I’m not sure how the “pivot” works, unless there’s just no declared candidate for Senate… which doesn’t make sense… no, more than likely they’ll put up a sacrificial lamb up for Senate… despite the hope of going up against a “not Hatch conservative”… but who knows… what you’re suggesting is *possible* just unlikely in my view…

    whether I *know* what I’m talking about or not… I don’t think its grounds for supporting Hatch…

  • Justin Spagnolo (standardcandle)

    FreedomWorks’ stated goals would require them to unseat Hatch…

    So now what’s your objection?

  • Justin Spagnolo (standardcandle)

    Please read this Herald Journal article:
    http://news.hjnews.com/opinion/article_204f9be4-6937-11e1-9ff7-0019bb2963f4.html

    A VERY important Excerpt:

    In Utah and most states the caucus system is a true grassroots involvement of neighbors. These are local caucus meetings where convention delegates are chosen every other year. But only Utah and Connecticut also require delegate support for candidates to get on the primary ballot. There are 2000 Utah voting precincts in which caucuses will be held in this month. This is where delegates will be chosen to represent that precinct. Those delegates are ?gatekeepers? who decide who passes through to general elections. The system works if people are participating. Historically, about one in 50 eligible residents go to caucus meetings. When few people participate, those who favor one philosophy of how government should function, such as the unofficial ?tea party,? may dominate the processes.

    Delegates elected in caucus meetings meet with other delegates at a county convention. At the county convention, delegates determine state convention delegates. A county delegate elects candidates to run for the Utah House of Representatives and the Utah State Senate.

    If Dan Liljenquist is going to have a chance at unseating Hatch… it’s got to happen at the Caucus events… Hatch has to be denied a walk to nomination… That’s the first hurdle… and if its not cleared, all of this is a moot discussion.

  • Adjoran

    Spending good money to unseat Orrin Hatch?

    If you believe that’s a good use of campaign money this year, you are too stupid to be allowed near a checkbook – including your own. Someone sane and responsible should be appointed conservator over your assets before you blow them all.

    Freedom Works and the other Phony Tea Party groups weren’t elected by anyone, they appointed themselves and have ridden the Tea Party reputation to influence and money – but it is also the actions of these usurpers which has lowered the approval of the Tea Party among average Americans.

    Fortunately, Utah is a pretty red state, so we probably won’t lose the seat no matter what, but it is a frightfully stupid waste of money in a year with critical races all across the country.

    You Purity Police operate just like Stalin’s purges – if a given Comrade didn’t applaud enthusiastically enough, he had to go. Good thing the lunatic fringe has so little influence in most of the country.

  • Cowboy

    I know how it works and Matheson IS the democrate party in Utah. He will be allowed to do as he pleases. Thanks for posting the rules anyway Justin.

  • http://www.gmsplace.com/ civil truth

    Because these are the folks who are going to be able to rise up the ranks with incumbency and stand fast when those in swing districts are under pressure. If your safe representatives are lukewarm, then your more vulnerable folks aren’t going to withstand the heat.

    This is how the hard left has moved the Democratic Party so far left, by gaining control of the leadership.

    Now as far as Sen. Hatch – I think that after 36 years, it’s time to consider new blood, if you have a strong alternative. So long as the race remains civil and doesn’t split the party so as to allow a Democrat to sneak in (e.g. Alaska), there’s no reason not to look to the next generation. If nothing else, a challenge from the right it could help Orin stay on the reservation.

  • gojo

    Ran across a great quote from Orrin Hatch in Investor’s Business Daily, from the term limit debates of 1995.

    “I have strong reservations about a constitutional amendment on term limits. Let me at the outset emphasize two points. First, I have no personal interest in the prospects of the amendment. Even were it to become part of the Constitution tomorrow, it would not bar me from running for re-election until the year 2012, when I would be 78 years of age. There are many things I hope to be doing in the year 2012. Spending time with my great-grandchildren at that time would be higher on my list than spending time with Senate colleagues, esteemed though they are. Running for re-election is not on the list. So I am offering here my own disinterested observations, based on my years of experience in serving the people if Utah in the Senate.”

    Liljenquist, who has a proven record of getting things done (in a bi-partisan way) and then moving on, will make sure that Orrin gets the time to spend with his great-grandchildren.

    g

  • jamesm

    nt

  • Justin Spagnolo (standardcandle)

    entee